Summary
Hosts Caitlin Palmer and Chloe explore the Rougarou, a Cajun werewolf legend from Louisiana swamps that differs significantly from traditional werewolf mythology. The episode covers the creature's origins, folklore, cultural significance, and the hosts' visit to the Houma Rougarou Festival, while discussing how oral tradition has shaped varying interpretations of this cryptid.
Insights
- Oral tradition as primary knowledge transmission creates significant variation in cryptid lore, making standardized documentation difficult and research challenging
- Regional folklore serves dual purposes: entertainment and behavioral control (warning children about dangers through monster mythology)
- Modern festival culture can successfully rebrand traditional folklore for conservation purposes, as seen with the Rougarou representing wetlands preservation
- Cryptid legends often reflect local ecosystems and cultural values rather than universal monster archetypes, making them regionally distinct
- Voodoo and Catholic traditions intersect in Louisiana folklore, creating unique curse mythology tied to religious observance and spiritual practice
Trends
Cryptid folklore being leveraged for environmental conservation messaging and wetlands awarenessRegional folklore gaining commercial viability through festival tourism and merchandiseOral history documentation challenges as younger generations seek written records of traditionally verbal knowledgeIntersection of religious practice (Catholicism/Lent) with supernatural folklore in cultural identityBoard game and tabletop gaming industry incorporating regional folklore into expansion contentDog-friendly event design becoming standard expectation for community festivalsInvasive species management through public engagement and gamification (nutria rat pardoning)Local storytelling professionals as cultural preservationists and tourism attractions
Topics
Rougarou folklore and Cajun mythologyOral tradition vs. written documentation of folkloreWerewolf mythology variations across culturesVoodoo curse mechanics and spiritual possessionLouisiana wetlands conservationCatholic religious observance in folkloreCryptid festival tourismInvasive species management (nutria rats)Regional folklore and cultural identityStorytelling as cultural preservationSupernatural creature classification systemsSpooky season entertainment and mediaSwamp ecosystem and wildlifeBoard game expansion designFestival event planning and community engagement
Companies
Fantasy Flight Games
Released 'Curse of the Rougarou' expansion for Arkham Horror board game featuring Louisiana folklore
Warhammer 40K / Games Workshop
Tabletop gaming store visited by hosts in New Orleans; mentioned as 'Battle Hatchet 40,000'
People
Glenn Petri
Professional storyteller and orator who shared Rougarou folklore and family stories from his grandmother
Captain Caviar
Swamp tour boat captain offering personalized haunted swamp tours in Louisiana bayou
Ricky
Crystal store employee in New Orleans who shared personal anecdote about meeting David Bowie
David Bowie
Music icon who allegedly visited a New Orleans shoe store; mentioned for cultural reference
Victoria Shade
Author of 'Dog Friendly' book; mentioned as friend of podcast host
Quotes
"You're not really a captain if you don't have a Rougarou story."
Captain Caviar•Swamp tour discussion
"The Rougarou itself is a spirit. It's not like the werewolf. It is something that afflicts somebody."
Chloe•Folklore explanation
"Be nice to people in Louisiana. Especially if you know they can perform voodoo."
Caitlin Palmer•Curse transmission discussion
"David Bowie had the shiniest shoes he had ever seen."
Ricky•Crystal store anecdote
"I'm pouring from a one third glass. So that's 100%."
Caitlin Palmer•Episode closing
Full Transcript
You're listening to Pet Candy. This show is brought to you by Brave Paws, a natural stress and anxiety chewable for dogs. Learn more at mybravepaws.com. Hello weem soundcheck. Sauce. And it's raining outside, so it's a lovely ambiance and I hope it's not too distracting. Are we not going to do another soundcheck now that we've adjusted the game? Well, yeah, that's what this is. Okay. Welcome to our new show, Obsessed. A show where we talk about whatever it is we're currently obsessed with. I'm Caitlin Palmer. I'm Chloe. And we're obsessed. Spooky season is finally here. There's a lot of things we don't like about living in the south, but there are some monsters down here. Yeah. In the background you could probably hear the pitter patter of rain on our windowsill and maybe even the light rumbling of thunder and that's not sound effects. That's real. That's real. That is just for you for spooky season. So the south is known for a lot of things. Most of them aren't good. Most of them are heat humidity and cicadas greens. Pretty much almost exclusively, but there is one creature that lurks allegedly in the swamps of southern Louisiana, which is very close to us. You may have heard of it if you want shows like supernatural. They did do one episode. They did and someone else did too, but anyway, imagine a werewolf that it cooks really well. And may or may not have a top hat in cane. Almost certainly has it. It almost certainly dances and does Charleston and just squares as well. We're talking of course about the Louisiana werewolf the Rugeroo. Or maybe the Lougeroo. The Lougeroo. I've always heard Lougeroo. The Loupe L-O-U-P-E Loupe is a wolf. So it's like a wolf man. Well, yeah, it's French for wolf. Yeah, but it's French for wolf. Wolf. Wolf. It's like a moon moon. And it's funny that you describe it as a werewolf, particularly the Louisiana werewolf, because a lot of stories say that it's not a wolf at all. Exactly. And that's something we're going to have to get into. So not very far from us, there is a place called Homo Louisiana. Have you heard of it, Clay? Yeah, I think I did. Yeah. So they do. Considering I drove you there. He did. He bought me all kinds of bullshit. So they have the Rugeroo festival. This is a big deal down here. It's classic werewolf, little like humanoid wolf. But the true stories, the true legends of this creature are not the jovial cute wolf person who can't count past 12, like the classic stories are. So they're said to lurk in the swamps around New Orleans, a Kadeana, and the surrounding sugar cane fields. It's a Cajun legend, and it hunts naughty children. This likely originated in France and then came over with the Cajuns, because a lot of Cajuns are Louisiana swamp people. I can say that. My grandmother was a true Cajun. I am some kind of, I don't know what I am, but here I am. So likely it came over from France and Canada and came to the United States. The Cajuns are a whole other breed of human beings. That's awesome, man. If you've heard someone speak like authentic sort of Creole speech, you will not understand it. You can't understand them. What? Blue blazes is going on. But boy is the food good. So it's believed to be a person. So this isn't like born a monster. This starts out as a person, a human you or me. Oh, so it is born a monster. It is. You're right. Oh my God. Wow. Thank you just got dark. So they start out as a human being, but then they're turned into the blue, the root or the root, the root. And legend says if you're bit by a root guru, then you become a root guru for 101 days. You can get rid of this curse if you pass it on to someone else. It could be transmitted by a bite. So like you get bit by another little group like we just said, or it can be a voodoo curse. So be nice to people in Louisiana. Especially if you know they can perform voodoo. Right. Especially if you know they can perform voodoo. Heck yeah. So sometimes they become like a wolf or a dog, but it's more often like a pig or even a cow. The wolf has just kind of become more of a symbology, especially here in the West because of where wolves in their poplarville. But their popular. They're popular. That's where they're from. They're from poplar. Yeah. Wolves have always been a symbol of some sort of predator and something that plays on the weaker unsuspecting. Sure. Nice sense. Yeah. And they're also kind of cooler than a pig or a cow. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. A creepy pig cryptid would be pretty dope. Yeah. We're going to talk about the pig. Don't worry. And it is also said beware if your Catholic during the Lenton season because if you disregard Lent, you're going to turn into a Luguru. Oh, yes. Especially if you go seven years in a row and do not observe Lent, get ready for 101 days of Luguru. Right. Too bad, though. I mean, seven years. I mean, I take it for only 101 days. So one way to protect yourself from the Luguru. It's very similar to other things we've talked about on this show. You can always put things on your floor for the Luguru to count, such as grains of rice or 13 coins. Some say that the Luguru can only count to 12. And we'll get frustrated counting and having to start over. So he gets the 13 years like, wait, no, the highest number is 12. Exactly. Let me try again. There can't possibly be more than 12. What would I say? Right. 12 and 1. 12 and 1. And then he gets that. That's when you come across a smart Luguru. And he's like, I don't really count 12, but I can count to 12 up to 12 times. So it has to be 145 things because then he won't be able to count past that. Because he can say, ah, yes, 12 and 12 and 12 and 12. 12 sets of 12. He can count that high. I don't think he's that smart, Clay. You don't think so? I don't think so. I don't think so. Some of them can count like grains of rice, but most of them can't count past 12. So you give them 13 of anything and they get pissed off because they can't count that high and it makes them mad. Give the Luguru math homework. Exactly. I get pissed off too. It's like, actually, you know what? I don't care. I don't care. You know what? Keep your face. Keep your face. Like most cryptids there believed to be a story to inspire fear and obedience and to prevent little, protect little cage and children from the dangers of the unknown. This is a swamp monster. And in our travels to the Luguru festival, we met the best fanboat captain. His name's Captain Caviar. Shout out to our friend Captain Caviar. It was actually a, I was going to say a young couple. A beautiful couple. This fanboat captain, as Caitlin said, Captain Caviar, who runs his own little swamp tour boat. He said that he used to do like bigger boats, take whole groups, but in adjustment with COVID, switch to smaller, like personal tours. So he will take you on effectively a one on one haunted swamp tour, which sounds honestly more fun than what we did. Yeah, we didn't meet Captain Caviar until after we did a swamp tour. So our first day in Homa, we did the John Lafitte swamp, the swamp tour. Which nothing against that. Oh, no, it was really fun. It was great. It was very knowledgeable about where the alligators would be. We met so many really cool alligators. Yeah, we saw a lot of cool alligators and our, our tour boat guide was, um, he was funny. And, you know, he filled us in on a lot of the stuff, just the sort of technical. If you're interested in the swamp and how it is run by its creatures, you know, he could, he could give you the lay down for sure. And he even told us we road past some places that were movie sets. Yeah, it was going to point those out and that's really neat. I know that a lot of movies get filmed down in the swamp because. Right in the bayou. If you're going to do a movie that takes you to that location, then yeah, you're pretty much going to go to Southern Louisiana. Right. Yeah, there were a lot of things in their stories about, isn't that rain? It sounds so lovely. Oh, goodness. But there's stories that during some of the movies that were filmed, like there was a Tarzan movie that was filmed out there. And there were some chimpanzees allegedly who got out and are still in the swamp. And those might be some of the river roof sightings. There was a story about Captain Caviar told us this about these, mount these sort of nests that get built way up in the trees, just made out of like sticks and mud and they just have a single opening in them. And he would point to all the kids and tell them those were, you know, Lugerrue met nests. Yeah. Only to come to find out that it was when the rivers would rise, beavers would build little hoffles inside of the branches that would then become underwater. Yes. And he would tell kids like, oh, yeah, well, what do you know that's big enough to get up there? Right. To climb up these trees and then be covered in these crutch marks and everything. He says you're not really a captain if you don't have a Rugeroo story. Right. There were some Rugeroo's. There was a storyteller, professional storyteller, Glenn Petri. He's a professional storyteller like an orator. He actually worked in Hollywood. He did all kinds of really cool stuff. He told us some really charming stories that his grandmother told him from his childhood. Now, one thing about the Rugeroo that you have to remember is most of the stories are passed down orally. Yeah. We actually ran into a big problem when trying to research the Rugeroo because there's not a whole lot. There's really not. You look it up in pretty much what we read you at the beginning is just about all there is on the internet. I mean, I'm sure if you did like some deep dig in, but there aren't that many written stories. It's almost exclusively word of mouth. Yeah. Which makes researching a lot harder. It was. Oh no. Field research. Field research. I'm going to interrupt your regularly scheduled podcast for these messages. We'll be right back with more pet candy. Hey, Pat parents. This is your favorite lifestyle guru, Renee Michelle. And I'm excited to tell you about my new show on pet candy. Join me and make some cute pet stuff. Talk about life and love and everything in between. Check out the Renee Michelle show on my pet candy dot com and let's have some fun. Glenn Petri he told us a lot of really, really interesting stories and some facts about the Rugeroo that I didn't come across at all in any of my research. So the Rugeroo themselves, like them sell the person underneath the SWAT monster, I guess, is kind of a victim in it all. If you are the one to release a Rugeroo, and we'll talk about how you can release them, to release a Rugeroo. So to free them of the curse, you have to draw their blood. You can stab them, but you can't shoot them. You have to use your hands to inflict some of the damage. You have to be connected in some way, because that's kind of the whole thing is this connection from one to another. Right. And once you have released a Rugeroo, you can't say their name for a gear in a day. The person's name. The person's name, correct. So this is where pronouns come in handy. Have you have your right? The Rugeroo differs from the classic werewolf for many reasons, but especially because this is not associated with the moon phase. It doesn't matter what kind of moon is out. It doesn't matter if it's a full moon. It doesn't matter if it's a parodummy thick ass cheeks or broad daylight or broad daylight, also with ass cheeks. That doesn't affect it. It's strictly a voodoo curse. It's totally different from what the canthropy. You're talking about you needed to be connected to inflict blood, to spill the blood, to break the Rugeroo curse. There was one story that he told us about a woman who had a shitty dog on a leash, like a chihuahua or a pommel. It's not that snappy. They're like the Rugeroo's ankle, but because she was connected through the leash to the dog that then bit the Rugeroo that counted. It says, see, shitty little dogs sometimes do save the day-don't-be-pans. Your pans are just not happening. The Rugeroo is very, very fast. So fast you could miss them. Those cartoons were like, you want to see me run real fast? And then nothing changes. Want to see me do it again? Yeah. That's kind of how the Rugeroo is. And that's why this little shitty dog was having such a hard time biting the Rugeroo because it was so fast. But boy, you got it. He got it. There was another story about a doctor who at night would turn into a pig, a boar. So it was like, if you had an emergency during the day, absolutely, that's your guy. He's a great doctor at night. I don't care if you're dying. You're not going to that doctor. So that was kind of cool. What they really haven't talked about is that the Rugeroo itself is a spirit. It's not like the werewolf. It is something that afflicts somebody. And there are multiple Rugeroo's and they all manifest differently. But the person who has been afflicted by the Rugeroo, like Caitlin was saying, is a victim in themselves. Right. Yeah. Rugeroo's are actually kind of sad. It's almost like a person with radius. Right. Like they kind of some say they don't remember what happened when they vamped out on Rugeroo juice and then others say they do. And it's just, it's kind of sad. It's really sad. But not everything was sad. In fact, this is kind of a fun trip. I have some little notes about some cool, cool, s*** we encountered along the way. Okay. I'm an inside cat. I don't really care to go outside. I don't like outside because it's always hot down here. It was the perfect day for swamp tour. And the alligators were out and they were doing their gator things. And I learned, Clay, that you can estimate a gator's length and feet by how many inches there are between its eyes and its nose. Did you learn that on the swamp tour? I did. Okay. That was really cool. And cypress trees can live underwater. In fact, the boat was made of cypress wood. This weekend was also about Clay's birthday. She seemed old man. We wore our obsessed with the Palmer's shirts. You probably seen them on our social media, like Instagram out of the Palmer's. So that was really cool. We wore our shirts. A couple people asked us like, well, what's that? We're like, what's our podcast? We pandered a little bit. What was not fun was driving in New Orleans. No, I hate it more than anything. It was pretty bad. But we did find a battle hatchet store, which is a game, a tabletop, like, game. Okay. He's like, the legal, I think if we're talking about visiting one of their official stores, we're allowed to use their name. No, screw them. But not the shopkeep because the shopkeep was great. So that was really, really cool. There was a really cool shopkeep that was selling battle hatchet merchandise. I forgot what I called that. Battle hatchet, 40,000. Yeah, battle hatchet, 40,000, 400,000. And they have these really, yeah, it's expensive. But it was your birthday and you need whatever you want because you worth it, babe. Tell us about the shopkeep. I don't know if he was putting on a character or if he was just like that, but he was like your classic, like, goodly tavern keep sort of dude. He had like shoulder length hair and he was just like an older guy and he, I don't know, he did a lot of like bowing and just sort of like solemn head nods. He was very nice. It was a nice store to go into. It was really cool. I will brave driving New Orleans roads again to go back. Yeah, that was really cool. Clay's gonna bring some of his friends up there and be super nerd. Yeah, we'll be real big nerds up there. I love it. And they give you a bag and it's like, he's like, here's a very discreet bag. Yeah. So no one knows what you bought and it was like decked out. Yeah, every bit of the bag was covered in licensed artworks. Yeah. And I was like, don't worry, Clay, it's not gonna hurt your street cred. Yeah. Although hopefully somebody doesn't recognize it. It's just bought expensive models. Right. Yeah, they would try to rob you. Yeah. Maybe like no. I don't know if this is worth, but I'll find someone on the internet that does. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And then we found a crystal store and it was so amazing. I met who would become my idol. My idol's name is Ricky. Ricky's amazing. Ricky is beautiful. Ricky is everything that everyone should want, should aspire to be. Be more like Ricky. He's so great. He's our shirt. And we were talking about the Rubber Roo. We talked about the New Orleans Axeman who deserves an episode. Axeman is creepy. But it was really cool. You got to check out and they asked for your email. And I'm like, oh, my email's kind of embarrassing because it's like a David Bowie Labyrinth reference. I say embarrassing. It's not embarrassing. It's just kind of long. And I usually have to repeat it four times. Yeah. That's how I'm supposed to go. So he's like, oh, David Bowie. I was like, yeah, I love David Bowie. He was on me too. Did you meet David Bowie? I said, no, I wish I did. He says, I did. Yeah. He's like, because I did. And I was like, what? I said, tell me everything. He says, I will when I wrap up your crystals. I was like, okay, he used to work, my friend Ricky. He used to work in an upscale shoes shoe store in New Orleans. And one day, in walks David Bowie and the Mon. They just walk in and he's like, are you David Bowie and the Mon? And they're like, yes. And he said they were very, very nice. That's some really nice because I've always heard that they're nice. But like, I don't, I won't believe anything bad about David Bowie. So I choose to believe like, even if David Bowie wasn't asked to you, like, you probably deserve it, you know, because I just don't feel like David Bowie was capable of doing bad things. So he said that they were very nice and Iman bought some shoes. And he said, David Bowie had the shiniest shoes he had ever seen. And I'm like, that faster was classy. And she said, of course he had shiny shoes. I knew he had shiny shoes. You're upset because he didn't know any specific smell. I did. I asked him, I was like, what did he smell like? Because you're a f***ing weirdo. F***ing weirdo. He's like, excuse me. I was like, did you? Yeah, exactly. Any other sane person's response is like, oh, excuse me. I was like, did he smell good? What did David Bowie smell like? Could you smell him? And he was like, not memorable, I guess. He said they got bored and they were like, you know what? Let's pop on over to New Orleans and not drive it yet. I'm like, good for you, David Bowie. Go off. Up! That's our sponsor. Gotta go check that. We'll be right back with more pet candy. I love my fur babies so much. But when they're stressed out, it makes me stressed out. Mine hate loud noises like thunderstorms and fireworks. And sometimes, they just don't want to be left home alone. To help keep your dogs calm and moments of stress, use Brave Paws' anxiety and stress support chewables for dogs. These plant-based chewables promote calm behavior with natural ingredients instead of being clinically studied. Did I mention they're fast acting and non-drausey? I especially love that the natural ingredients are sustainably sourced. How cool is that? Want to learn more? Check out mybravepaws.com. Your dog will be happy you did. So, David Bowie, for anyone who wanted to know, had very shiny shoes and did not smell memorable. It did not have a memorable smell. Did not have a memorable smell. So, through Ruger Rufest, they had this enormous, and it was making such a noise. Well, we could hear it, you know, way off for we got into the building. But they had this big ass, I mean, it was like a werewolf and a matronic. You know, it's supposed to be the Ruger Ruf course, but, you know, the traditional Ruger Ruf stories aren't necessarily that of a wolf man. And this clearly was. It had like the ripped up flannel shirt and like... It plays dad. The white's blue jeans, like shorts or whatever. But it was huge. It was like, it had to have been about eight or nine feet tall. It was gigantic and it had electric eyes and it blinked. Yeah, yeah, that was one thing that Caitlyn noticed. It was extra. That was berserk is that it had eyes, a mechanical eyes that dilated. The dilated and they blinked and yeah, it was really cool. Because the animatronic itself didn't move around a whole bunch. I mean, it did the roar, moved its head and lower jaw and stuff, but like nothing beyond that. I don't know why they put so much work into the eyes, but whoever was in charge of that part of the animatronic was like, no, this will be real. They went ham. You will see the blood lost in his eyes. Yeah, and there was this little... And you're doomed. Right. There was this little VIP section and I was like, I want to go in there. Yeah, we didn't even look at how much that cost us. There's no way we would have paid whatever amount of money it was. Yeah, but like they have these silver platters and stuff and I was like, ooh, is it to protect you from the werewolf? Well, werewolves are weak to silver, but the river is not a werewolf. So that's, and that's why it's kind of misleading to call it the Louisiana werewolf because it's kind of not a werewolf, but for just for fun purposes. Yeah, it's a werewolf, whatever. It was really cute. The festival was very dog friendly, which by the way is a really good book by Victoria Shade. You should just go check it out. Dog friendly by Victoria Shade. I love her. She's also my best friend. It's me being to are you a shade and Ricky could just like go somewhere. That would be so cool. So the Rugeroo festival is kind of like a stoop fare. You know, they've got like festival food and stand set up with merch. You know, like I went to the Rugeroo festival, etc. All kinds of shirts with Rugeroo's on it and then just other shit. Yeah, there was a dog who teaked that's Halloween. Oh, yeah, and they had live music and stuff. It was a good fun time. We got to picture the babygator. Yeah, we got to take picture with a babygator. I feel like it was a bit smaller than it probably is normally because recently, Homa was hit by a hurricane just last year. So I think it was still recovering from that. There was one person on their Facebook who made a comment that this was the worst one to date. I'm like, yo, back on. Yeah, I mean, you got to understand. I don't get it. Oh, my God, it hit really hard by that. Homa really did. Homa, poor Homa. It was really cool. It was a very, very animal friendly. Like we're saying dog friendly like the book by Victoria Shade again. And one of the big reasons for the Ruger Roo festival is wetlands conservation. The Ruger room itself has sort of been rebranded to represent wetlands conservation. Exactly. The logo is this happy kind of stereotypical werewolf. It's like a humanoid wolf that he's dancing. He's doing a little Charleston. And he's so happy. And he's the wetlands because that's it's all the values and the swamp. Right. And everything. So it was really neat. There were a lot of vendors there set up to talk to you about wildlife. They had like we said the alligators. It was very interesting about estuaries. Louisiana has a lot of estuaries, which is where salt water and not salt water. Fresh water. Yeah. Yeah, where salt water and fresh water is sort of mix and co mingle. So it creates very unique ecosystem where creatures that normally would never be able to interact with each other are able to. Right. I revisited some childhood trauma regarding birds because there were so many eagrets. If you don't know what an eagret is, they're like these big white crane birds. They're very pretty birds. It's not the eagrets fault that I'm traumatized. When I was a child, I was in some grade. I've blocked it out, but I was given a task. I had to be picked. We didn't get to pick an animal. We got assigned an animal. That's the worst. And I wanted the jag wire. But I didn't get the jag wire. I got the eagret. And I'm like, what the fuck is an eagret? And the teachers like, oh, there are those white birds that you see outside of Walmart. I don't know if that's just us here regionally. Or if that's like, do all Walmarts have eagrets? Tell us in the comments. But our Walmarts always had eagrets. And I couldn't find anything about a dang eagret. And the teacher was like, yeah, you can find something about eagrets. They're literally at our Walmarts. And I was like, I know. But I can't find any literature. Mrs. whatever the fuck your name was. So she did that thing. You know, like when kids are being a pain and you like walk with them, like really fast, like, look, I'll show you. And then she couldn't find any books about eagrets. And I was like, hey. Is that the sound of an eagret makes? Yeah, it is now. Yeah, there's no books on eagrets. So I guess it's whatever you say it is. We'll have a whole lot to say about eagrets. They are a next mythical creature. If you're doing this, you're there are next mythical creatures. If you're not from this area, you've probably never heard of the Rugeroo. And even if you are from this area, if you don't live in the swamp, you still might not have heard much about the Rugeroo. But it is a big deal. So we look, some big a deal. In fact, the Ottoman Zoo, which we went to not too long ago, actually has a display in there of a Rugeroo. And it is spooky. It is very spooky. We have pictures we'll put on Instagram. It's dimly lit. And it's this awful big hairy creature. Like the hair just kind of drips off of it like spanish moss. Yeah. And it's got these big lit-up red eyes and it's mouth is full of these just dagger-like teeth. And it is surrounded on the ground by its feet, a bunch of empty, mismatching children's shoes. It's very, very creepy. Yeah, for all the naughty children that were scooped up by the Rugeroo and taken back to be eaten. Yep. So behave. And the Rugeroo will get you. Exactly. Be hey. The Rugeroo, we were talking about how different it is. One of the reasons why is because it's spread almost entirely by word of mouth. So you will get these very different versions of Ruger and not just in appearance, like what we talked about with wolf, cattle, pigs, whatever that might be. But quite literally everything it does, some have described that it actually sucks blood and doesn't necessarily consume. It's prey. The 101 days is a reoccurring theme, but it'll go from anywhere from being possessed by a Rugeroo to having a spell cast on you by the Rugeroo. The spell or the spirit transferring from person to person, possessing them and turning them into this terrible creature. So tales of the Rugeroo started building when settlers first met with the Akkadian peoples. Right. Back in the 1600s. So the tale of the Rugeroo is very old, which is why it's so surprising that you don't really see anything on the internet about it. But like you said, it was passed most exclusively word of mouth. Right. So what you get is these very different tellings of what a Rugeroo is and how it acts. And over the years, it's transformed from a tortured person who has like a dog head into like this snarling, twisted, lanky werewolf. Yeah. There's some similarities between it and the windigo being cursed by a spirit and transformed into this hungry, awful beast and that just by witnessing, by seeing a Rugeroo or a Windigo, you could become one yourself. But that's about as far as the similarities end. One thing that is still a little similar is that Windigos aren't necessarily hated as they are feared and Rugeroo seems to be kind of the same way. Right. There's not an angry mob outside trying to hunt down the Rugeroo. I almost take some... Well, it almost takes on like a sacred sort of view. It's simply a force of nature, something that you should beware of, but you know, not necessarily hunt down and try to kill. I find it a little weird. How much it has to do with sort of Catholicism? You know, what you're talking about with the lint and scaring children, you know, Catholicism loves that. But there's actually a movie that was released in 2016 called Rugeroo. And it is quite literally about a 11-year-old girl whose dad is supposed to give up alcoholism for lint and he breaks that vow and then is tortured by a Rugeroo. So you can check that movie out. I don't know if it's any good. I haven't seen it. Yeah, just now hearing about it. Yeah, but yeah, it's not a super probable word. It might be one of those cheesy kind of shitty horror movies, but I love those so much. I hate to know. Like for a Demick. Right. Oh, no. I don't love for a Demick. You know what, Clay? I hate to do this to you, but we're going to have to take a commercial break. We'll be right back with more Pet Candy. Hi, this is Shay, and I want to tell you about my new show on Pet Candy, Cookie with Shay. I make vegan eating easy and fun. Check it out on Pet Candy TV. So there's also an expansion for the Fantasy Flight Games Arkham Horror Game called Curse of the Rugeroo, which is pretty neat. I'll give you the little summary here. The headline was sensationalist. Three killings in nine days were enough to spook a town sure. But you doubt all of New Orleans is gripped by terror or even knows about the killings. Still something peaked your interest. When one reporter's sensational news about a series of savage killings fails to make its way into Arkham advisor, your friend at the establishment decides to contact you nonetheless. Deeming the reports, the sort of thing that might suit your eccentric curiosities. She's right, of course, and when you head to the North Side Station to book your ticket for New Orleans, you can't possibly imagine the shape of the horrors that await you. Our horror is a fun game. And it's kind of weird that they reach out to this curse of the Rugeroo. I've seen them do anything else with this. Typically, it's like very lovecraft, a lovecraftian horror. But I just thought that was neat. That is neat. That the Rugeroo gets his whole little expansion there. He does. And New Orleans is famous for so many spooky things. Yeah, so many spooky things. And the Rugeroo is the thing that got the... Yeah, I got the expansion. That's awesome. Can't wait to see that. I'd probably learn some more about the Rugeroo. Yeah. And it's probably all something they invented for it, because otherwise they'd have to go around and ask all the old people that live in New Orleans. And there's a lot of old people that live in New Orleans. There's a lot of people in New Orleans. Yeah. My favorite part, other than Ricky and David Bowie not smelling great, was the Nutri-a-Rat pardoning? Yeah, so the Rugeroo Festival every year, they pardon a Nutri-Rat, because there was a bounty on Nutri-Rat as they are an invasive species. They're highly invasive. The Santa of Louisiana will give you $6 per Nutri-a-Rat tail. And you get to keep the dead Nutri-a-Rat? I guess so. So you get to eat it? Yeah. I would just have a bunch of little Nutri-a-Rats, and I'd be like, I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. I'll save you. to say, and you put the microphone up to the little Nutra Rat, and it was eating a carrot, and it was the best ASMR. Yeah, you could just hear the crunching. So sweet. So Ben Ye is the best thing that's ever happened. It was fun to see this whole thing get like worked up about this little Nutra Rat. He gets pardoned because of all the educational work that he does. And since he subsist entirely on a diet of carrots and broccoli that is bought from a store for him, he can't do any damage to the environment. So he gets an official legal pardoning from the bounty on all Nutra rats. Right. His tail is safe. His tail is safe, and so is the rest of him. But Ben Ye is the best thing ever. Ben Ye was great. Also if you don't know, Nutria, like hamburgers are the best. No, they're not. That's discussing us horrible. Nutra rats. So apparently Nutra rats aren't everywhere. Imagine a guinea pig, right? But it's kind of big and it's got a rat tail. Right, but it weighs 15 pounds. Yeah. It's a big ass rat. Big rat. But they taste good because they subsist entirely on water like foliage. So it's good meat. They're precious. There came to a capybara. I think a small capybara. Which is much like a guinea pig, so together. Right. They're bigger than a guinea pig, but smaller than a capybara. They're a meaty pig. Medium pig. Medium pig? Yeah. I heard that capybara is also delicious. Probably, I think eat them a lot in Peru, but we are better than that. We don't eat the little babies. Maybe you are. I want to eat a capybara. A capybara. Oh, a capybara. Oh, a capybara. A capybara egg. Like a set of a capybara egg. Oh, God. That's disgusting. But for real though, everybody, can we just talk about how great brave pauses? We got a free sample. We did. We're going to be completely transparent with you. We did. And it works. Yeah, I was a little surprised. I'm not going to lie. You get this stuff and it doesn't really seem like a typical pet treat, right? Right. But we gave it to our pets and they gumbled right up. They do. They do. And it's nice because it's like you give so many pills per pound. So you don't have to buy like three different sizes. You know, our little guy gets a half of one. Our big one gets three. Right. And he loves it. He takes them like a treat. He's like, you're being plant based. You're kind of like, oh, are they going to like it? Right. That's what I'm saying. It's like it's dry and sort of leafy. And it, like I said, it just doesn't normally when you get a pet treat, it's kind of like moist and squishy. But you know, they don't usually eat those I found. Well, that's because ours are extremely picky, which is why it was so surprising. They ate these. Exactly. And we got more than one dog. We're going to be for real with you all. But they eat it and they eat it well. Yeah. And it worked. Because we live in the deep South, aka Satan's armpit. And it storms and rains at least once a week, like at least once a week, we're under some kind of watch, like a hurricane watch. That's a Tuesday. And our dogs are weenies. So when it starts like with the lightning and the rain and everything, they freak out. They do. They do. We really put these to the test. Right. And I did not think that they would work like they did. Exactly. As well as they do. And this is a non prescription. We don't have to go to the vet and get it. It's not going to knock them out. It's not a sedative. It's just a calming support. And it does. We had lightning hit very close to our house. Within a mile. We ran out of our windows. It was scary. I was even scared. I love bad weather. And we gave everybody their happy pills. And they put their brave paws on and everybody laid down and went to sleep. And it was fun. Yeah. So like we don't have to do this part of the commercial. Right. We had read and we've goofed around. But like this is we wouldn't lie to you. We would not. We would not record this part if it didn't work and we didn't actually. Exactly. And we're both in the animal industry and we have been for years and years. So we would not tell you about a product if we did not believe in it ourselves. Yeah. It absolutely worked for us. So maybe it'll work for you. Go check it out. Mybravepaws.com. Go put your brave paws on. Give your pet the courage they need to weather the store. So unfortunately we didn't get to speak to the storyteller. Although it looks like we could have Caitlin suggested and I said, not on a bother. And then you got just swarmed by a crowd of people and let's start there for like 40 minutes. So I probably we should have tried and got our shot, I guess. I know everyone else to get like a secret Rugeroo story from. Right. So animated. So cute. But unfortunately we didn't. So Clay, let's do that thing where we rate the Rugeroo. This isn't good. You did it. And I really like this. All right. Well, I guess the first question then is how likely are you to survive an encounter with a Rugeroo? Probably about a nine out of 10 because most people do survive on. I guess that's fair, but it can also move extremely fast. That's true. It can move extremely fast. But like, poor baby can't count over 12. I guess that's true. I mean, there is the possible. I'm not saying I wouldn't be named by the Rugeroo. I'm not saying I wouldn't be called a Rugeroo, but I would survive. Yeah, counter. Okay. Yeah. Now they talk about he can't count higher than 12, but it doesn't sound like he's ever magically compelled to do so. And so I think it's just the thing. Yeah, I don't think you can throw down a sack of beans like you could with other creatures with whatever it's called, like a rhythmophilia or something. I think that's just like you can trick him before the chase begins, maybe. Maybe. I don't think it's going to work. It's like an emergency. Get out of jail car. Right. It's like look over there and then throw coins down. I think they mean when they say to put the coins down or to put the rice down, they mean to put like outside your door at night. So it doesn't come in. Right. Yeah. So it gets distracted by that. So I guess if you were to just encounter a Rugeroo in the wild, I would almost certainly become a Rugeroo, but I'd probably survive. Okay. I'd probably give myself like a seven. Really? That's all you'd give yourself? Yeah. Well, I mean, if he wants to kill me, I will, I guess. I think they want to pass on the curse. Yeah, but I'm kind of an asshole. So I won't. Oh, that's true. You are kind of an asshole. Well, how creepy is the Rugeroo? I don't think the Rugeroo's creepy. I'm just trying to say. Yeah. I don't know. I think about him like surrounded by all those empty shoes. That's a creepy as forget it. That was scary. Like that rendition of the Rugeroo was creepy, but I wouldn't say he's any creepier than any other cryptid. So I would probably give him about a solid four. That's not how we write the creepiness. It's either not spooky, spooky, two spooky for me or three spooky, five me. I guess he can have a spook. I mean, give him a spook. I was actually going to give him two spooky. Two spooky? Two spooky for me. Okay. Something about like this hairy dog creature crawling around on all fours in the swamp. Me being in that setting is extremely creepy. Thinking about being in the swamp makes me think about mosquitoes, which makes me angry and itchy. So how likely is the Rugeroo to exist? I believe in voodoo. Voodoo kind of scares me. There may be people who truly believe that they are inflicted with the canthropy and or Rugerooism. Rugerooism? Rugerooism? I probably give him about six. Okay. I was only giving like a two. Doesn't seem to exist until people bring their own ideas into this region and it starts to mix with other ones. Yeah. Now I feel stupid. I think I say the balls on you to say you'd have like a nine to survive against the Rugeroo is really something. It's all about hunting down people who don't do length good. Oh, yeah. I'm not Catholic. Probably it probably would even go after me in the first place. It'd be like you're not worth my time. Right. And it's like, oh, you don't even practice lamp, whatever. It's like, oh, but this one, she puts half of her heart into it because it makes it about two weeks. When do you ever gave up David Bowie music? I couldn't make it. I couldn't. Clay, do you know what I love almost as much as I love you? What's that? These ads by Vett Candy. We'll be right back with more pet candy. Hi, I want to tell you about my new show, Simply Pets with Shannon Gregor. We talk about pets, life, love, and everything in between with the coolest people on the planet. Don't miss out on the fun. Check it out on a podcast platform of your choice. There's this little known Catholic trick that on Sunday, you could do whatever you think. If you give up drinking sweet tea, on Sunday, you can drink sweet tea. So on Sundays, David Bowie, 24-7. Wait, so Sundays you get to like not- It's like a get out of lent-free day. Because you could like immediately ask forgiveness, is that the idea? No, I think it's just like it kind of doesn't count for when it because of the store. I don't know. Yeah, I think you made that up. No, no, that is the thing. It was in our family, but I didn't make it. Beautiful. How likely is the Rugeroo to be an alien? There's definitely some alien stuff going on down in the Bayou, almost certainly. Okay, well the Bayou is silent. We're just talking about the Rugeroo. The Rugeroo itself, like just as an entity, I'd give it like a two. I would give it a one if it wasn't for the whole like possessed by spirits thing, which is more like an alien. It's more like an alien, right? Yes, an alien enthusiast really enjoy. I do. So I'll bump it up to a two, but yeah, I don't think it's right. Yeah, I'm too nice to give a one. So when I do finally give something a one, just know I hate it. Wow, just because it has no chance of being an alien. It has no chance of being an alien. It has no chance of being a friend. That's not true. I wonder if that drew blood from our Rugeroo. In my head, maybe I just broke the car some somebody, somebody listening is like, thank you. So Rugeroo form has their headphones on, listening to our pocket. Or there's one about me. Yeah. So you're welcome. You're welcome. I don't. You're probably also like a lot of that is wrong. This is actually how it is. Probably so right in and tell us because I have your Rugeroo. You have to tell us. Yeah, legally you have exactly that is entrapment if you do not tell us. So we need to know and we need to know now. And also give us the scoop because it's really hard to find people to even tell you story. There will be people who are like, oh, yeah, I know Rugeroo story. Oh, can we hear one? They're like, no. Right. Well, fun. Well, even at the Rugeroo festival, there was two Rugeroo stories. Yeah. Yeah. And the whole like one hour story telling special and they were very quick. And the lady even like asked them something like, what do you have anymore? And he just kind of changed the subject. Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe you didn't know anymore Rugeroo stories. But it's still fun. Whether it's a real creature or not, it's a fun cryptid. It's a fun story. Perfect for spooky season. If you're ever down in our neck of the woods, definitely check out the Homa Rugeroo festival. Yeah. If you're in Homa, check out Captain Caviar's swamp tours. We're definitely going to check it out next time we're in the area. For sure. For sure. Lots of fun. We hope everyone has like the happiest, most fun spooky season ever. Make good choices. We're proud of you, whatever you've done this week. Even if you're just kind of pouring from a one third glass, like I have been for the last year. Third glass. Yeah. What kind of saying is that? Well, you know how like you can't pour from an empty glass? Like if your glass is empty, you can't like help other people because you don't have anything left to give. She was saying you just don't have much to give. I just don't have much to give. But all I have is a third of a glass and I'm giving you a third of a glass. So that's 100%. Yeah. That's how that works. That's math. Yeah, whatever. That's how math works. I can't count higher than 12. I don't freaking know. Really? I don't know that about you. It's because of the Mississippi education system. Not because I'm a Rugeroo. Right. Yeah, okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. I mean, I am. But it's not because. Oh, okay. I thought so. There you go. Love it. All right, everybody. We'll see you next time. And until then, Happy Halloween. I mean, you never seen me. Hmm. It's pet candy. 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