Nightcap Hour 2: LeBron ENJOYS Playing Game 7’s on ROAD + Jeremy Lin & Kobe Didn’t SPEAK for 5 MONTHS + Gil Areanas PRASIS Iso Joe + Pats RELEASE Stefon Diggs + Chiefs TRADE Trent McDuffie + Cardinals RELEASE Kyler Muarray

This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. LeBron reportedly prefers playing Game 7s on the road. Rich said, LeBron always used to tell me, I don't want to play Game 7 at home. I'd rather be on the road because I'd rather hear less oohs and ahs. Joe, did you feel the same way? Would you rather play a game seven on the road as opposed to at home? Yeah, no. I want my game seven to be at home. Nah, don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. I don't mind going into the home building. Shutting everybody up. Nah, I enjoy that. It is no better feeling than that. But, boy, you give me a game seven, you get to tell me I'm at home. Yeah, I'm taking that all day long for sure. You know, bro, now he'll look different. You know what? it all depends. Because I've been in both situations, Ocho, where you know you've had a championship game at home and I had two championship games on the road. The only thing I hate to say about playing at home is that if you lose at home, you got 80,000 disappointed fans. But if you win on the road, it's something about being able to send those fans home disappointed as opposed to your fans going home disappointed. Ain't no great offense. Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game beating the raiders in oakland in the afc chip oh my goodness that's not fair joe what's that i ain't never got a chance to experience nothing i don't talk about oh man joe i ain't won nothing outside of mad joe damn i know he went in high school with nothing yeah hey high school we was mediocre joe we was all right we won all that joe but that's crazy i ain't really won when it come to sporting events i ain't really won nothing when it came to sporting events but joe i'm winning that in life though, that's about it. Man, look at all the wars we don't want with Nightcap. Yeah, that's why I say I'm winning in life. As a matter of fact, Coach, you done got your signal wars, they ain't got me, man. I got my who? Oh, my bad. Oh, my bad. Oh, no, I misspoke. Hey, what my, hey, hey, hey. I misspoke, I misspoke, yo, my bad, my bad, my bad. Hey, hey, hey, when you gonna send more wars, man? My bad, on Joe, my bad. Matter of fact, you know what? Just hold on to him. Hold on to him for me. Hold on to him for me. I misspoke. I misspoke. It's cool. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna have my awards, man, ever since ever. I mean, we pretty, oh, Joe, we doing good, man. We don't go out. I know we doing good. I would like to be able to show my kids that we doing good. We don't want like four signal awards. Yeah. Well, where my four at? You got them. What? Got them where? Uh, you got your million plaque, you got your hundred thousand plaque, you got your million Yeah, my plaque, my plaque's right there behind me. Yeah. Hold on, let me zoom in. Let me zoom in on my plaques. Hey, hey, Ocho. What's up? We might be on a little bit more while to get to that 10th, to get to that diamond plaque. Hey, hey diamond, how many is that? A million. Ooh, hey, we had to do some, we had to do some craziness, boy. craziness, boy. We got to do something. You know what's going to get us to that 10 million, though? Honestly? Is that outside stuff? We continue doing that outside stuff and doing other things that nobody else is doing. I know how else we get the 10 million too. I have President Trump come on. Oh, we. I guarantee you we'll get 10 million subs. Hey, hey, hey. Boy, we'll piss a lot of people off. where you do that way. I mean, I'm trying to think maybe Obama. Obama. No? We'll get some subs, but not like I mean, you're talking about It got to be controversial. You're talking about a city president. Yeah. I mean, and the only person he's probably been, I think he's been on with Tucker Carlson. He's been on with Joe Rogan. I think he's been on with Theo Vaughn. Theo Vaughn. So he doesn't go on a whole lot of pods. Yeah, Theo. He's going to hold out a McAfee. Hey, you notice the difference in all them and us? Okay. That's how it's going to get us 10 million. That's how it's going to get us 10 million. Damn. Hey. Oh, no. What else we got? You got the synopsis award. Hey, just hold my words for me. When all my work is done, then we get... Yeah, your office... First of all, your office was supposed to be done. I ain't sending them until the office is done. I know. That's what I just said. You got this. Oh, that's nice. I ain't got that. Ash ain't send me nothing. don't nobody nobody got my new address maybe the person that was at the old address kept it oh hey yeah this was 2024. god damn that long ago the first year we had it we got it oh man hey well let me send me that one you got it nah hey hey uh man it what else I ain't got that, man. You know, they probably threw anything got to do with me away. So send me that one. Man. Damn. Hey, Joe, it be like that sometime, Joe. I already know, Joe. It's all good. We got to get a BET award. And a NAACP image award. We got to win. Nightcap going to win. We got to get, let's see who else we can get on to get some views. Drake. Yeah. Drake don't really do no... That's why he won't get the views. That's why. Right, I'm trying to... I hit him up, man. I'm gonna hit Drake up for y'all, bro. What about Jordan? Oh yeah, but Jordan do less than anybody. Yeah. MJ here. Yeah, he don't really sit down like that either. I'm trying to think. It's only a few people bringing that kind of traction. I tell you who else can get some awards, could get some views too. Who? Travis Kelsey fiance. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's different. Yeah. That would be a completely different audience in general. There you go. See, because like B and Hov, they don't really do. I mean- Oh, absolutely not. I mean, for Hov to sit down, he gotta really know you and really, really trust you. Yeah, yeah, he gotta, yeah. and I don't know. Hey, that's my bands, bro. That's my bands. Y'all want me to reach out the hole? Yeah, do it. All right, I got y'all. Say love. Chill, Joe, chill. Y'all think, y'all think, cause I've been hanging around Ocho, I'm lying and all that. Let me reach out. Hey, chill, chill, Joe, chill, chill, chill. Okay, all right. Chill. But no, the biggest game, I mean, the thing is, I mean, like I said, being on the road, I mean, most of my playoff games, We've been on the road and we've won. Yeah. Obviously, the Super Bowl is a neutral location, but it's on the road. It ain't your building. It's not theirs, but it's still a road game. Even though it's a neutral location, it's on the road. So you figure three Super Bowls, two AFC Championship games, that's five, two divisional games. That's seven. So seven of 13 games that I've won, I've been on the road. Hey, Joe, you've been in the playoffs before, huh? Yeah a few times Damn man Oh you ain't never played in the playoffs Just twice Joe What happened I only had two winning seasons in 13 years Joe Damn That's why I had to have so much fun So I wouldn't be mentally stressed Joe Right I get you Oh we gonna get bad We gonna reach out to bad bunny too Okay Okay I know J Balvin you try anything I don't know if that's I mean I'm not sure I mean how that compares to Bad Bunny I think he's still up there like that though Bad Bunny you see the thing Bad Bunny did 4 billion views the Super Bowl 4.1 billion damn that's why he was up there I don't know why he was up there now you know now you know I mean, and think about this. This is the funny thing about it. Super Bowl is in LA next year, right? Now, who in the hell can you get for Super Bowl next year that can top what Bad Bunny did? Taylor. Ah, that's a good one. She said, you know, hey, her and Jay-Z and their teams are in constant communication. That is the first call they make every year. I promise you whether you like it or not or this or that I get all that I'm telling you right but if she doesn't do it I don't know who you're going to get I don't I don't know but guess what I don't give a damn who they get I'm watching right hey he live there he out in Tarzana Tarzana what's that CB Craig Brown oh Matt I could text CB CB would do it I could text him too but dang we ain't got no pool with the Super Bowl yeah I could text him hey bro can you come on can you give us five minutes on night camp hell I could text him too Yeah. Yeah. He'll give us 10. He'll give us 10, Unc. He'll give us 10. I taught, you see, y'all don't even know, right? When I used to live in LA, Joe, you know? Yeah. I used to be a crumper. I used to crump dance. You do all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I met Chris years ago. I was young. I was young. I don't joke. You were trying to be a background dancer or something? Nah, you know, birthday parties. Birthday parties. I used to be, I'd be. Oh, you like, OK, I see what you got. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I met Chris Brown years ago. This when I was in LA, this like back in, this back, this 97, 98. You know what? Made me a little change, yo. Yeah. And then that's when, after that, there wasn't enough money. That's when I went to the little stripping part of my life, you know? Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah. And you ain't know that, Joe? Nah, I ain't know. You used to strip and all that. Joe, I used to dance. I was dance from 98 to 99, Joe, at the right track in LA. So, like, they call you to, like, come do these birthday parties and stuff like that, and you come show out for the women. Sometimes. Back to the red parties. Hey, Joe, you ever heard of dancing bear parties? Yeah. Yeah, they used to call me. Yeah, I used to do those. And I used to do it at the right track. You know, my stage name was Twix. Was Twix? Yeah, because I was small and I had veins everywhere. I, I, I, Joe, I'm telling you, I had to make, I had to make the honest living, Joe. I had to pay for books. I had to pay for tuition. I had to pay for classes. Yes. I mean, I had to make it as me, Joe. They weren't giving no NIL back there. Oh, absolutely not. What's in on this, Joe? Uh, Jordan. Could they see that? It was. What that is, huh? Jordan zooming in. It's a breezy. Breezy. It's a breezy. He said he got a breezy number, man I don't gotta lie I do not have to lie By anything Hey, who the most famous person In your phone? I don't have to lie Y'all lie to get attention I don't have to lie Hey, hey, hey Now what y'all saying now Hey, who the most famous person In your phone, Joe? Probably Ice Cube Let me see. Okay. Here go mine. Hold on, hold on. Hey, Joe. What's up? Hold on. Let me see if y'all can see this. Well, I'm blocking the number out. Who? Who you? Who? DW. You see it? I'm assuming that's DW, right? Damn. How you making zoom in? You just asked to focus. Oh. Yeah, Denzel Washington. That's my most famous person. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. I'm trying to think. Who else? I got Q, Snoop, P. I got Snoop. Yeah, Ross. What about... I'm talking about famous, famous. I had Kanye, but I don't... He changed. I was, hey, I don't know what that, I don't know what brubby, I don't know what brubby going through, man. I'll try to see. Why you laughing, Joe? I see. Hey, boy, you here. Damn. I'm trying to think. Every comedian that's been on my podcast. Oh, I know. Hey, I took Mr. Cook number when it was at Apple. Oh, Tim Cook? Yeah, does that count? No? Hell yeah, it counts. I ain't never bother him. You like me. Yeah, I have a job. I get to know. Mainly, like, I just DM. I don't call him, I just DM him. And he's like, man, why don't you just call? Like, nah, bro, I don't wanna bother you like that. I just say. If. See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audio books, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and Free Agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included you got quarterbacks on the move we got teams rebuilding it's hope season yeah absolutely it's hope season we'll tell you what's real what's noise and what it means for your favorite team smart analysis real conversations every week i don't know about the smart but definitely analysis listen to 40s and free agents on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts we got a pretty good list jeremy lynn says he and kobe went months without talking after confronting him about his leadership style let's take a listen to what jeremy lynn had to say he had he was he was upset at me um over something that i was actually trying to do but the coach was telling me not to do it and so he was like no don't like don't foul him i was like no we gotta foul him right so Kobe's like foul him I was like I know I'm trying to but I'm telling the coach and the coach will tell me don't foul so then I'm like I don't know what to do yeah so it ended up being something where he had he had given me really bad body language so I texted him this is and we couldn't like me and him like when we would lose we'd be up at like three four in the morning just not able to sleep just very competitive yeah so we I texted him and I was like hey man like I really don't appreciate the body language and um and and so and he and he you know he came back with the shark response and then I went back at him but my but it ended it ended cordial where I ended up saying I was like I'm not saying that you can't teach me you're obviously like a hundred times the player I am I want to learn anything and everything I can from you I'm just asking can you just say, you know, and do it in a way that's like respectful to me as a man. Right? Yes. And so he was like, all right, I got you. And then he sent over a text with a, with some advice. He's like, let's start with this. I was like, I got you. I'm gonna be focused on that. I'll be working on this. I'm gonna be thinking on this of exactly what you're saying. I'm just trying to get better. I'm trying to help this team more. We didn speak for the next five months Damn I know you already know where it like it was it was like for him it was and he he even talked about because we we we patched up later but he had talked about like he not used to people challenging him and i wasn't challenging him like i'm better than you and i'm smarter than you i was only challenging him like hey can you teach me in a way that's a little bit more effective for me to process it's not versus not like talking down to me hey uncle joe kobe different man kobe different he's an animal he's a student of the game so i can understand it in a sense i've never played basketball today in my life especially at that level but from the outside looking in for the fruit interactions i've had with kobe and understanding i can totally see him and understand exactly what jeremy jeremy jeremy Lynn had to go through. That's crazy. And who else, the only other person I can think that is probably like that as well would probably be Michael Jordan. Mentality, the way they carry themselves. They're not friendly at all. And anything that is combative to them in any situation where it has to do with basketball in general, they see it as a challenge. You just have to look at everything and say, whatever he says to me is not personal. You got to start with that premise. because if you don't start with that premise because the tone in which they talk to you, you're like, and what did he say? Can you give it to me in a way that is respectful to me as a man? At the end of the day, I understand you're Kobe. You're the black mamba. Yes. So let's not lose sight that I'm a man. So, and that's the thing. You know what? He just tried to teach me. It's not personal. Because, I mean, It's the tone in which they talk. Tone has a lot to do with it, Ocho. Because, you know, like your mom or your grandma could like, they say something and the tone lets you know the seriousness that they were dead ass. Yeah. You know, hey, my grandma famous thing, boy, don't make me hurt you. Right. Hey, if she ever uttered those words, you know, granted, was dead for real, for real. Yes, serious. and typically the great ones they don't even give them if you take it personal or not right you know what i mean just 100 like they don't care nothing about that like like he said man they ain't speak for five months you think kobe lost some sleep behind that right no can you imagine can you imagine your teammate coming in ocho he don't even speak to you bro yeah because i've heard this happening on numerous occasions he's the first one to say this Yeah. Yeah. The great ones don't care. They put in so much work, bro, to be who they are. They ain't trying to hear that. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anybody on the team that would. Because normally they're going to break it up. Unless they're like just two supreme players. Obviously, you ride it out as long as you can. Because if you're winning, Ocho, the last thing, and Joe, you know this, the last thing you want to do is break up a winning formula. I don't know if y'all got, were y'all old enough to remember when Coke changed the formula? They went to this secret formula. They had a secret, they had another formula. And that old Coke had another formula. This had to be like early 80s. Man, the people complained so much, they got rid of that formula. A hell no. But normally, if it's a formula that's working, I don't think there was anything wrong with the original Coke. But, you know, you try some things and it didn't work. But I can see, and I agree with you, Joe. I can see this. Like Kobe, Kobe's trying to win. Damn your feelings when I'm trying to win. Right. Damn your feelings when I'm trying to win. He ain't studying that. He ain't studying that. Hey, man, as long as we win, we cool. We ain't winning. Yeah, I got an attitude. Yes. For sure. I told you, Ocho, remember I told you? Don't feel it. They don't win no games. Don't feed them. They don't do it out. They don't need to eat. They ain't earning. You got to earn your deal. But look, those great players, man. Everybody can't play with Kobe. Everybody couldn't play with Jordan. You can't. And you definitely can't take anything they say personal cousin and eat you up and then you end up wanting to come to blows with the man every day in practice. but that'd be like but you got to stand up for yourself because they're the two if you don't stand up for yourself they run over you now yep you got to stand up for yourself because at the end of the day no matter how great you are no matter how bad how small i am guess what i am a man a man yes a man don't don't don't lose sight of that hey and i might not have a wife and I might not have kids or anything like that, but I'm still a man. And so, the chairman said, but I told him, I said, okay, we start with that. And that man ain't speaking for me for five months. That's how you know I seriously am. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Savage, man. Savage. Joe, you ever have a teammate to challenge you? To challenge me? Like, uh. He got one, nah. Nah, not like, what you saying, like in a confrontational way, huh? Nah, nah. Yeah, you got one now though. You don't even know what you, you don't even know what you setting yourself up for. You know, I'm one of them cats, you keep talking, the more you talk, the more you piss me off, okay? Joe, I don't care, hey Joe, this me, all I do is talk. My career is built off talking shit. And you getting pissed off ain't gonna do nothing but make me play better, boy. That's what I do. And the more pissed off I am, the hell you gonna have to pay, boy. You don't even know it. That's fine. Joe, you gonna have to show me. I ain't got no problem doing that. You gonna have to show me, and I know you're not from Missouri. I ain't got no problem doing that. You gonna have to show me, and I know you're not from Missouri, my boy. I put that thing on Joe at the lawn club, Ocho. You remember? You remember he's feeling some type of way? Yes, I did. I remember. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, after that first game, then he threw the ball over there. Talking about losers go first. Yeah, I took that to heart. I went berserk after that. I went berserk. I lost it. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know how I'm going to get Joe. You know how I know he going to fold, right, under pressure. What's that? Because he ain't never had nobody in his ear like me, right? And then he really going to fold when them cameras rolling. Because when them cameras rolling, that's when I show up. Didn't you just see what happened when the cameras was rolling in New York? Huh? Didn't you just see what happened when the cameras was rolling? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We doing stuff I never done before. I was a rookie out there. You see, you forgot. You done forgot. There you go. See what you started, Ocho. See, Ocho, see what I'm talking about? Every time y'all forget. Every time y'all forget, I'm going to remind you, okay? Now keep on if you want to, Ocho. I'm telling you, boy. All right. See what I'm talking about, Ocho? Write some checks you started. I can't cash now. Yeah. Hey, I don't even write check because they going to bounce. See what I'm talking about, Ocho? I'm just letting you know. Let's let him have it. Ocho, let him have his moment. Let him have his moment. I try to be cool. I'm going to let him have it. I try to be cool. I really don't even bring it up. But the people, you know what I'm saying? I already know they vouching for you, boy. Ocho, he ain't nothing but an instigator, bro. You going, hey, boy, I'm coming to Miami. I'm talking about when I come to Miami, partner, boy, ain't going to be nothing nice. You hear me? Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Where you want to play at? You want to play outside? he want to play inside because Packer let us use the gym. Yeah, we're going to the Miami Heat facility. Okay, yeah, they're going to let me use it. They're going to let me use it. And we're going to have every camera on in there so we get every angle. I don't want to hear no excuses. Don't throw me with no good time, baby. I'm down for whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. But Joe D, that's all right, Joe. We're going to be back outside. This meal will be healthy. Oh, I already told y'all. if the last time y'all seen me I was 60 65 percent this time I'm gonna be 95 to 100 man y'all ain't got a chance what that mean yeah what that mean okay you being 95 to 100 and I'm 95 to 100 you put your pants on one leg at a time just like me what you saying okay all right I mean what you saying okay okay Gil had quite the praise for you uh Joe on Derek White's podcast take a listen what he had to say. I remember Joe Johnson. I remember working out with Joe. He was in Wizards. He was bringing people to work out and I was in there with a workout and I'm watching his mentor. And I'm like, why does everybody see any special? I couldn't see it whatsoever when he got drafted. I mean, what the hell is here? So I'm like, all right, you're on my hit list. For sure. Moving forward. So that's one of the reasons I kind of like don't like them because that draft process. When he went to Atlanta. I saw Joe. I saw Joe. I was like, I was sitting here like how did they see this? Like, where was it the last four years? And it was weird because in Boston, he was like, yeah, I knew he wasn't good. When I seen them, like they put the ball in his hand, it became more like a point. I was like, oh, he's wicked, really wicked. He had one of the most complicated shooting guard packages of our era. If I say one player, I didn't read them well, it was probably Joe Johnson. Okay. It's some nice word, Joe. Hey, hey, hey. Good word, boy. I appreciate Gil for that, but here's what I tell y'all about that. I remember this like it was yesterday. We worked out for the Wizards. They had the number one pick. I know I ain't going number one. Okay, Ocho. Yeah. So you was in Kwame's draft. Yeah, that was Kwame Brown. That was Kwame 1-1. They was looking for a big man. But the fact, you know, you're going to work out for the Wizards. MJ going to be there. MJ working us out, taking us through. So that was my first time getting a chance to meet MJ. So that's why that workout was so special. but I couldn't even tell y'all what we did in the workout, bro. I ain't going to lie, because I wasn't that engaged. Like, man, they got all these perimeter dudes in here. Ain't none of us going number one. Yeah, we just in here wasting their time. You knew they were going to take a big, I joke. Yeah, I knew they were taking a big. They had, I think they had Jared Stackhouse, MJ coming back. I think they had Rip Hamilton. I'm like, man, you're exactly right. Well, hold on. Who was the big they took? Kwame Brown. He was nice, huh? Yeah, he was nice. He was a big boy out of high school. Yeah. 6'11, could run, could do it. 6'11? Straight out of high school, 18 years old. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. He just went to the wrong situation. He already had the wrong situation. You see, remember how we talked about Kobe and Jordan and how they talk? Yes, sir. That was the situation he should have went to. They needed somebody 24, 25 years of age, not a kid. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I agree. And, you know, they didn't run plays for him. He's like, okay, you know, you want the ball, get it off the glass. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Damn. This is the biggest night in podcasting. The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards. Live from South by Southwest, March 16th, we'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is... See all the nominees now at iHeart.com slash podcast awards. Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's tough. Ocho Joe, SGA pulled up the post-game interview with one of the wildest fits of all time. Let's take a look at what SGA did. What the hell? Hey, SGA looked like a Pomeranian, huh? Hey, hey, it's Jada took style to a whole new level. They're going too far now. They took it to a whole new level. Hey, you got to put some time into this. It's cold out there in OKC? No, they was in New York. Oh, yeah, it's cold out there. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, he might be the most I don't want to say the most stylish. He's the most stylish streetwear fashion person probably in the NBA. You got other people that can dress but not street fashion. But when it comes to street fashion, I would assume he has the best style when it comes to street wear. Yeah, when it comes to putting it on, them boys be putting it on. Yeah. I would switch through shorty. Yeah? I would switch through shorty, old Joe. I like to be comfortable, bro. Right, right, right. We're in a different era now. It's like a runway going to the games. When we walk into the games, it's like a runway now. It is. It absolutely is. I mean, this is how guys are building their brand, you know. Right. You know, brands are trying to, and you see now, guys, more of these guys are going to fashion shows. You see them showing up at Louis Vuitton. You see them showing up at these fashion shows, Ocho, and you see Jetta and you see Chase and you see Joey B and you see all these guys going to the fashion thing. Well, that was just a decade ago. That was unheard of. Right, right. Now, hell, every NBA player, not every, but, you know, A lot of them show up to these fashion shows, whether it's in Paris, whether it's in New York, Fashion Week in New York. A lot of these guys show up, and it's interesting to see. You know, everything ain't my style. You know, hey, the thing that you can wear at 28, you can't wear at 38, 48. Hell, I'm about to be 58. I ain't never – man, look here. Hey, look, look, I enjoy it. I wouldn't wear a lot of the stuff, but I do enjoy watching those guys come in, you know, with their stuff on. I agree. Yeah. Hey, you know, I just thought about, man. What's that? Hey, Uncle Joe. Like Paris Fashion Week. I should be a runway model. You too big. I look like one, huh? You too big. You too big. I could lose some weight. I lose some weight. Man, have you ever seen like a real life one of those people? Like, really? Yeah, they real small. They skinny. You got to eat cabbage every day. Yeah, man. All right. My bad. Yeah, you got to be 135. 140. Oh, no. Yeah. Your ribs got to be showing. Yeah. After making a run to the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots and veteran wide receiver Stephon Diggs are parting ways. The Patriots have reportedly informed Diggs that he will be released at the start of the new year next week, just one year after he signed a three-year $69 million deal with the team. Damn. Hold on. Okay, Ojo. I thought he done a great job in the locker room I thought he was great being available when he played he balled out a good veteran president of the locker room what's up, what's going on? I think the distractions off the field is too much for them everything is an allegation none of it has been comproved but I just think for that Ocho, you played in that organization and even though the coach isn't there that coached you the principles still apply yes sir I think that for me personally I could be wrong I could be totally off but I think I just think the constant and that I think it just is like nah this is not what we're looking for probably too much I mean also that too obviously NFL most teams they're going younger too I mean I think Diggs had a great season Joe he had a thousand he had a thousand yard season he's gonna get picked up he's gonna be somewhere else I won't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore I'm just throwing it out there right now being that that's not too far from not mistaken he's from the DMV area so don't be surprised if he ends up in Baltimore just know I said it first and every time I say something on the show for some reason I'm always right and it always happens but that's neither here nor there but he had a good season last night a true leader he had he played well he did what they brought him there to do I thought he did a great job Look, I thought he did a great job of catching the ball. I thought he did a great job with Drake May. I thought he didn't have any bad mannerisms when he was on the field. He wasn't pouting on the sideline. He wasn't loafing on the field. I loved everything. I loved everything about what he was doing on the field. Hey, whatever happened with his relationship, I don't care anything about that. I wish both of them the best. If they're together, stay together. If not, that's okay too. But I just think knowing the Patriots and that organization, and how they, if it ain't football related, they ain't trying to hear about it. Damn. Yeah, he got some juice left, though. I know he does. Yeah, absolutely. And you got to think about it. Absolutely. So now he's going to get another year, so he'll be two years removed, Ocho, from that ACL. So he should become better. Better than he was this year, yeah. I totally agree with that. Chiefs trade McDuffie to the Rams The Chiefs get the 2026 first round pick which is their pick because you know they have two first round picks They got one of those. They got Atlanta's first round pick. They get a 2026 fifth round pick, a 2026 sixth round pick, and a 2027 third round pick for Trent McDuffie services. Ocho, we talked about this. Remember, we talked about this. I said, Ocho, I'm not going to be surprised at all. Hey, you was right. I'm not going to be surprised. You was right. Based on what they have, what they need, knowing they can't pay him. And the thing that I like about him, they asked him a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month ago, if he were to get traded, where would he like to go? He's a Cali kid. He said, I guess I'd like to go back to the Rams. Back home. Jerry and Steve, where did they turn him? Tennessee Titans. Got the big contract. That's one thing. You can say whatever you want to say about the Chiefs, but Andy and Brent, they do a great job. When you play and do what you're supposed to, they will try to put you in the best situation to help you considering what you've done to help them with them yeah that's a good thing most of the time you don't you don't have owners you don't have head coaches that operate in that manner and understand the value that you bring and that value that you do have we can't reciprocate what you've earned to this date but we appreciate your services we're going to allow you to go somewhere else and continue to blossom and we're going to do what we need to do and fill whatever areas we need to. And one of the reasons you know they can do some of the things that they do, Unk, because they got one of the best players in the game. One of the best players to ever play this game. You can make moves like this. But he can make up for the absence of not having a great DB like Mr. McDuffie is on the defensive side of the ball. They did that with Tyreek. Tyreek, they say, you want to go to the Jazz or you want to go to Miami? Okay. He'll put you in Miami. So, and knowing what they need, Ocho, they don't, Ocho, what do they need, a $30 million corner in Kansas City? They got too many other needs. Other PTA. They got too many other needs. And so it just, it didn't come, it didn't come, you know, it became cost prohibitive. And, you know, obviously we got Mahomes. I think they still need a running back. They need a running back. A big time. They need a receiver. Big time. I still believe they need a big-time receiver. Those small guys, Ocho, they need a stud. Go ahead, Ocho. I have a question. What's the chances that Kansas City Chiefs pick at number nine, if I'm not mistaken? I think if Jeremiah Love is there, they take him. I'm going to say I would hope they climb up to go get him. You think he's going to be there at nine? I don't know. Absolutely not. The thing is, Ocho, I don't think so. The kids know the day, right? Yeah, boy. I need those picks, Ocho. I need those picks because I've neglected so long. Now I need to put pieces around Patrick Mahomes. Plus, he's coming off an injury, Ocho. Now, we don't know if he's going to be able to start the season. I know that's his goal. His goal is to be able to start the season. But what if that's not his goal in moving forward? Right. Could there be a situation he goes higher? Hell, Ashton Gentry went sixth. Here's a guy that's more of a home run threat than Aston Jenty, a power back. Now, Aston Jenty, for a guy his size, he runs with great power, great leverage. He runs with power, yeah. But I love Jeremiah Love. I think that's what they need. But Kansas City just has too many holes to fill to pay a corner, to have a $30 million corner and a $30 million knee tackle. And you got Corloftus making a boatload of money. You just gave the middle linebacker a boatload of money. so I'm not surprised based on their recent history and what they need and what it was going to cost for them to keep him and you know that's what happens when you draft and they've done a great job of drafting Ocho at some point you can't pay everybody you just can't it's the same thing with Willen you're going to have to let him go you're going to have to let him go and the only thing is is that you're not going to get compensation for it I mean you'll get compensation because he'll go and you'll get a third round pick but you can't trade him and get the value that you could got if you had his rights and traded it. Right. Cause you got the new spoon and you got JSN coming and I'm in worry. It's going to be up in a year, two years. Yeah. He, he nice. And we talked about this. I was like, look, if you're prioritizing K nine is on the bottom of the list because what he's going to want is top five, top three, top five quarterback running back money. If they don't view him as a top three, top five back, which will be in the $15 million range, $15. He's not going to, they can't pay that. Thank you. Helping us win the Super Bowl. Congratulations on your league, on your Super Bowl MVP. But, I mean, Unc and Joe, there's tiers to everything. There are tier one running backs, and it's only a handful. Now, he's a very, very, very very good running back but is he in the same conversation with the Saquons and the Jameer Gives and the McCaffreys no he's not he's not yeah he's very good though and that's okay he parlayed it at the right time Ocho I'm a free agent I go on this great run I win the Super Bowl MVP you can't ask for anything better than that Ocho you got Charbonneau and the thing is Ocho they always feel that they can get a back they feel they can get a back because the freshest of back is going to be Ocho when he coming out of college because think about it if you that back they're going to put 250-300 carries on your legs before you get another contract. So you're talking about 250 to 300. You're going to get 1,000 carries in your first three years. And they don't, you know how it is. They don't value that position the way they once did. They don't value it. And you have to be extremely special for you to hold any kind of value at the running back position in this day and age, in this past and era. And to get multiple contracts? At their running back spot? Oh, it's hard. Hey, Joe, it's hard, Joe. It's hard. I already know. Like C-Mac and Derrick Henry and who else has got multiple contracts at the running back position? McCaffrey. McCaffrey. Yeah, I said C-Mac first. Yeah. That's it. It ain't many. Hey, Joe, it's hard, boy. The Cardinals have informed Kyler Murray that they intend to release him at the first day of the league year. next Wednesday, barring a trade between 9 and then. Arizona already owes him almost $37 million in guarantee for 2026, and another 19 and a half would have been triggered on the 15th of March. He will now be moving on. Kyler took to social media to address the news. To everyone that supported me and showed kindness to my family and I during my time in Arizona, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. I wanted nothing more than to be the one to end the 77-year drought for this organization. I feel I'm sorry. I failed us i wish this community and my brothers nothing but the best i'm no stranger to adversity i'm prepared for whatever's next i trust in god and my work ethic i truly believe my best ball is in front of me and i look forward to proving it godspeed what you thinking ocho hey i'm i'm curious i'm curious on the destinations that make sense for I'm curious Miami stay with me real quick Miami New York or Minnesota now those the only three I can think of the one that I would like him to go to the best Minnesota me personally Joe I would prefer a pocket passer in Minnesota because of all the weapons they have I would like Kyler maybe in New York or maybe in Miami. That's just me. I would prefer to see Kirk Cousins come back to Minnesota or maybe... I don't want to see Kirk Cousins go back to Minnesota. Hey Joe, you got to see the numbers Joe. You got to see one thing Kirk could do, boy he going to let that thing fly. Ocho, he going to have a few good games here and there but come on man he ain't gonna be the same Kurt you look you know what I mean I don't know I don't know Joe but I just think from a passing standpoint listen Kyler Murray is very good very good very good dual threat quarterback but I think it limits some of the things you can do when you have that kind of talent over there in Minnesota when you have a mobile quarterback like that but the thing is Ocho he's not he's not your traditional drop back pass quarterback and I think with that offense, what they have, they need a traditional drop back pass quarterback like an Aaron Rodgers or like a Kirk Cousins that can sling it. You don't really need a dual threat. I don't know if you noticed though, Joe, but Malik Willis is going to be available. He's going somewhere. He's going to the highest bidder. That's where he's going. Miami, Arizona. I can see him in Miami. Arizona would be a good one too for Malik what's Wilson's first name Mike Wilson? Yes Michael Wilson hey Joe boy it's a young bull named Mike Wilson he came out of nowhere yeah I don't know if you've been around Joe he came out of nowhere that's about playing like true number one yeah oh my god boy he nice all year long Joe he making play after play after play after play If they get Marvin Harrison Jr. up to speed, they got Trey McBride, best tight end in football. So they got weapons. They got to redo the offensive line. They got to get better at the offensive line, don't you? They got to get better at that. Yeah. But. Hey, what do you think about Malik Willis coming down to Miami? I think Miami or Arizona. If I had a choice, I would pick Arizona. McBride, Marvin Harrison Jr., Mike Wilson. Yes, absolutely. I would too. Connors. Connors is coming back next year, I'm assuming, at the running back. Hold on. Didn't he get the – who got the head job in Arizona? Wasn't it the guy from Green Bay? Yeah. Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. Where did he have success at? Green Bay. What type of offense did he run? Green Bay. The brother. Same thing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You see how that thing lined up in Arizona? Oh, here, Miami. No, no, no. LeFleur's in Miami, isn't he? Is he in Miami or Arizona? Because Willis is probably going where the other LeFleur brothers went. Right. Or the Cardinals. He's going to Arizona, Ocho. He came from the Rams, yeah. But he knows that system because the systems are very similar. Okay. Yeah. So. All right, guys, we will get you here on this when it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey. Before we get to our super chats, we've got some video voicemails from our Discord. This is something we've been wanting to do for years. So to make sure you join the Discord, submit a video voicemail for us to show. the first one comes from Jordan. Jordan, you're not supposed to be able to do this. Let's take a listen to what Jordan had to say. Nightcap fam, real quick, I just want to thank y'all, Unk, Ocho, Isojo, Ash, and the whole team for everything that y'all do and for always bringing good vibes and laughs to the streams. Real quick, Ocho, when you go pay Unk his money, man, stop playing with his money. How about this? When you and Isojo play, when Isojo beats you, you got to pay Unk his $5,900 and you got to go do yoga with Isojo. and if you somehow even score a point on Iso Joe, you can try to convince him to go hunting or fishing with you, even though we all know that won't happen. Much love, guys. Yeah. Appreciate that, Jordan. Appreciate that, Jordan. Yeah, where you going to pay? The next one comes from Augie. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. KOC is such a great quarterback whisperer. The nine got to be deaf, right? What did he say? I don't know. I'm lying. KLC is such a great quarterback whisperer, and nine got to be deaf, right? Right. For whatever reason, he can't stay healthy. In order for quarterbacks to get good, you have to be consistent. You have to stay on the field. He missed his entire rookie year, and then he played the first game. He brought him back against Chicago, and then he's hurt, and then he's out. He comes back, he gets hurt again. So he's going to have to build up some consistency, and right now he's being judged on what Sam Darnold did when he was there and then Sam Darnold leaves and go win the Super Bowl. So that's the measuring stick, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. That's the measuring stick. That's the bad part. Not only is that the measuring stick, that same quarterback went on the win of what? Super Bowl. Now it's even worse. No, that's not – No, that's – he'll be laughing. No, that is not our Jordan. J, 1984, Unk, you ready for Saturday? I don't think Duke going to lose twice. Ocho was moving on that treadmill, homie. You got to run like that with Unk putting that mask on by that 5,900. You right. Drew Jitsu, Iso, you see Coach Richardson getting a statue. was announced, well-deserved. Do you still keep in touch by any chance? And Tex didn't stand a chance. Woo-peed. Oh, long live the king. Best part in the game. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, I did see that they're getting Coach Nolan Richardson a statue in front of Bud Walton Arena, which is in Fayetteville, Arkansas. I think it's dope, well-deserved. Man, he's done a lot for the state of Arkansas, bro. He's definitely one of the reasons I committed early to be a Razorback. So I'm happy for him. That is long. Gage Snedditor. Hey, Aunt Ocho Aiso. Was wondering if you could send some thoughts and prayers to me and my family. We lost our grandmother this past week. It's been really hard. Thank you. Rest easy, Grandma. Yes, Gage. our thoughts and prayers are from the nightcap family, Uncle Joe and Ocho. We definitely, definitely, our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family and loved ones and anyone that's been impacted by the sudden passing of your grandmother. Yeah. Just remember the great times. I know it's tough right now, but just remember the great times. That's what she would have wanted you to do. John Doe, Joe, you think King's tanking or they just trash? No, no. They tanking. They want that number one pick. It's about time Sacramento, they've been on a drought for a long time. Okay, Ocho. You know, I don't remember hearing nothing good about them since early 2000s with C. Webb and Mike Bibin was there. You know what I mean? It's been a while. It's been a minute. I think De'Aaron Fox and Sabonis, I think they may have got them to the playoff one year. I'm not sure though, but they ain't really made no noise since by the early 2000s. They traded Halliburton and you see what he's done in Indy. They brought in Sabonis. Sabonis is, people don't realize Sabonis is 7-1. He can triple-double. He can pass. He can rebound. He can score a little bit. But then you lose D. Fox. Yeah. So it's tough. You can't keep giving away. You can't keep losing your best players now. Yeah, no. TS Cardwise Detail Service. ISO tell us a story playing against Kobe Bean. ISO is Wade the third best shooting guard ever. is Wade the third. Yeah, I put him there. MJ Cole. I put Wade in there. Wade, Clyde, Drexler. What you gonna do with Harden? Harden, yeah. Because I asked Shump, and Shump took, he took Wade over Harden at three. Yeah, I'm gonna take Wade. I think Harden definitely top five, though. Okay, Ocho, I mean, we talking about two guys all the time, just even being a top five. that's an accomplishment in itself. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Them one and two spots, they sold up. Ain't nobody gonna ever get those, huh, Joe? It's a wrap. Cupcake Mama, here you go. Hey guys, follow up from a few shows ago. I'm looking good. I'm looking for good company conversation and someone to fish with. There you go. Hey, Uncle Fisherman too, boy. too, man. As long as you got the big cupcake. I'm sure guys out there, they're looking to go fishing too, Cupcake. I'm sure they're looking to go fishing too. But look, you got to be clear what your intentions are. I mean, it's just hard for me to see a scenario, Cupcake Mama, that you got out of a relationship, and I think you were in a 10, 15 year relationship, marriage, excuse me, not a relationship, a marriage, and you're looking to get right back into in one of those? Nah, don't do that. Don't do that cupcake. And I get it, I get it. You don't wanna be, you know, people thinking that you don't. Cause you know, I know how people are. I know how people are going, ooh, she this and she that. And put thoughts in your head. But I would just take it slow. I would just take it slow. Enjoy yourself. Hey man, some people think the best way to move on is to replace. Oh Joe they say the quickest way to get over one woman is have another get up under you But Up under you You know what they say Joe Hey Hey Hey Most of the time If you're a good mechanic, Joe, what you do? You slide up under one car, and sooner you fix it, you slide up under another one. Hey, hello. There you go. Hey, hey, matter of fact, hey, you know what? I just thought about Uncle Joe in chat. Speaking of mechanics, hey, Joe, I know you know this, Joe. Boy, you don't know this, boy, Joe. I'm going to make fun of you. OK. How do you know a mechanic has a girlfriend, Joe? Hey, how do you know if a mechanic has a girlfriend? How do you know if a mechanic has a girlfriend? Yeah. Something rich, a mechanic got a girlfriend. Spare parts? Yeah. Nope, you wrong, Unc. You got one, Joe, what you got? Uh, by looking under a hood. Nope. Y'all can see me? Yes. Yeah. He'll keep these two fingers clean. Okay, take your time. You got more time than you think. I just don't want you to rush into anything, but you got to realize guys are looking at you like, well, damn, you just got a relationship and you want to get right back into another one. And there might be some guys out there that's looking for that. But I just think, you know, just take your time. You got time. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. You know, go out. We ain't saying you got to, you know, sleep with every guy that you go to the movies or go grab a bite to eat with, but enjoy yourself. Get to know somebody. Some people have a hard time being lonely though. They don't like being by themselves. Yeah. Being lonely or being alone. Because you can be with somebody and still be alone. You can be with somebody and still be lonely. Yeah. I think sometimes people confuse the two. I got me somebody. Okay, yeah. You in a relationship, but he not. She's in a relationship, but you not. Hey. But that's never mind. Let's move on. Nate underscore burner. Hey, why you ain't shout out your alma mater baseball team? I heard Savannah State upset the Division II number one team in the country. Well done. I didn't know. But, you know, we normally have a nice little stick in baseball. We used to be really, really good in baseball. but congratulations if that's the case I didn't know but if you did congratulations that's what we do Swole underscore nerd was held when he was well once upon a time once upon a time boy you know 57 58 ain't much good for Unk Most 21 Music Sup Unk Ocho and Iso Now Tim Hardaway says Penny, Grant Hill, better than LeBron in their primes. Your thoughts. I guess it's open season to hate LeBron. Look, if you want to be on a podcast, if you want to trend, that's what the thing is. Ain't nobody, nobody. Maybe Grant Hill, if he had stayed healthy and stayed on the trajectory that he was on, if Penny stays healthy and stays on the trajectory that he's on, But to say, come on now, we got to stop this. But I get it. You want a trend. You want to have something to say. Say, you know what, Grant Hill was – really? Really? Penny. And Penny was phenomenal. But injuries robbed him of what they could have been. Grant was phenomenal. But injuries robbed him of what he could have been. So in his prime, do you realize – first of all, nobody's had a prime longer than LeBron. LeBron had a prime for 21 years, for 22 years, basically. Yeah. So let's just say for the sake of arguing, we're going to say from 2007 to 2020. So for 14 years. Man, stop it. Nobody come close. Stop it. So now we don't win from Jordan. Okay, even if I believe LeBron is the GOAT, I can see you say, you know what? Jordan's prime was higher than his. Let's just say for the sake of argument, if you want to say Kobe stretch, but we're going to say Grant Hill and Grant was phenomenal. Penny. But really, you're talking about, Lord have mercy. They just trying to get you. They just trying to get clicks of light, Ochoa. Because if you notice, if you want a trend, it seems to be over the last three, four, five months, it's been like this. If you want to trend, say something about Bron. And I'm not saying, Joe, I'm old enough to remember all the guys. Hell, I've been with Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway said you got into the league. Yeah. Yeah. That's the luxury. See, that's the best part about being a little older. Because, see, they can't run no bull job on you. me? But to say that, come on now. Even if you are, say you know what? I'm not a LeBron fan. Y'all know this man's apex. Come on now. Come on now. They say that to get you boiling. They do. They know what gets you boiling. If you say, like I said, you say Jordan, you say Kobe, if y'all want to say his prime, his peak prime was better than LeBron, I think LeBron's a better player. I do. But if you want to say that, but y'all just arbitrarily throwing guys out there. I mean, at least guys that won Super Bowl, I mean, excuse me, won MVPs and finals MVPs and all NBA selections and the offense and all NBA, defensive teams, all NBA. Okay, okay. Come on now. We got to stop this foolishness now. T.S. Carwise details. Thoughts on Lou Holtz passing. Never had a chance to meet him. I know who he is. If I'm not mistaken, he was the Jets head coach in the 70s, Ocho. Lou Holtz? It was short-lived. I think he was in Arkansas too, Joe. Yeah, but he's known for – y'all know what he's known for. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Notre Dame. And they ain't won one since, had it? Nope. 88. Who was the quarterback? I think Tony Rice was. Tony Rice, yeah. Because Tony played with me. He played with me in the East West Shrine game, and they had Ned Bolcar and Stonebreaker was the linebackers, and I played at the East West Shrine game with Ned Bolcar. It's Maddox. King ISO. Can you take it easy on Ocho when he drops the donut? And the one over, please. I got one for y'all, fellas. Start, bench, drop. NFL and NBA. Randy, Jerry, T.O., JT, JB, Ant-Man. You got the receivers, Joe, Ocho. Randy, Jerry, and T.O. You got to start one. You got to bench one. You got to drop one. I'm going T.O., Randy, Jerry. Hold on. So you dropping Jerry? Yeah. I'm going T.O., Randy, Jerry. Okay. All right, Joe. You got JT, JB, Ant-Man. Start, bitch, drop. I'm going Ant-Man, JB, JT, Achilles. I got that. Got to drop him, huh? Got to drop him. That's a no-brainer for me. The Reformed Pagan. Talking great players. The Niners have profited from hype. an old but superior talent who won with Shanty while not investing in talent. Please tell the 90 Empire has our window closed in 27. Nope. Now, hell nah. I mean, you got to think about it. You lost your two best defensive players for the year. Excuse me. Bosa and Warner. Purdy was out even though he played well. Kittle was in and out of the lineup. the receiver that you're counting on Brandon Ayuk he was in the lineup Pierce all missed time hold on so y'all think when those dudes get healthy that the Niners gonna be back in the running? Absolutely oh absolutely with that coach yep yeah Shanahan don't play boy I agree Terrence G what's up guys wins the NBA edition start bench trade Sean Kemp Antonio McDice Sharif Abdur Rahim. Hey, Sharif was nice, boy. Yeah, he from the crib. But boy, you know who was nice, but people don't remember? McDice. Bad McDice was. McDice. McDice was an animal. I was in Denver when he got there. Oh. I played with McDice. I played with McDice in Phoenix now. He wasn't nothing like how he was in Denver. He had that knee injury, Joe. But you talking about jump out the gym? Oh my God. Woo hoo hoo hoo. And 6'9", 6'10". And you talking about jump out the gym like young Blake Griffin? Yes, man. Like that kind of jump out the gym? That boy could go, he could go sit on the rim, old Joe. Yes. And cut up too. Alabama used to have some players. People don't realize Alabama used to have players. Robert Orr, Sprewell, McNice. Hey, Spree went there? Yeah. Yeah. Got damn speed, right? Before him, they had Bobby Lee Hurt, Enos Watley. They used to have a squad down in Bama. I mean, you know, everybody knows they're known for football. They've always had, since Coach Bryant, they've always had football players. But their basketball team used to be nice. Yeah, they keep some athletes over there now. JJ Carver, A, the Skip Madison-Shannon Sharp reunion will get views kind of like Shaq and Kobe reunion. I don't think the gambling partners match up. So, I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with a reunion. I don't have a problem with Skip. What has happened has happened. I've moved on. I'm sure he's moved on. But I think we tried to put something together, but it's kind of hard when, you know, they have a gambling partner. We have a gambling partner. Oh, yeah. Dre Phillip. How did you manage to steal ash away from Fox? And shout out to my brother, Adrian, back home. He watches and loves the show. It wasn't that hard. I think she was ready to go. I just told her, I mean, you know, from the very first time that I said, if I ever got a show, I was going to take her. Because I saw how hard she worked. And I know what she was capable of doing, but sometimes people don't give you the opportunity. Remember I said sometimes you need an opportunity? They weren't going to give you the opportunity. She knew that. It wasn't, you know, and after, you know, after I made an offer, they was like, okay, we'll do all this. She was like, well, y'all doing this now because y'all don't want me to go with him. Absolutely. But, you know, I didn't know what the hell I was going to do. I didn't have nothing. And I was like, hey, so I was just paying it out of my pocket until I find something to do because that's how much I believed in her. I know how hard she worked. She made sure I was prepared at every show. and even there's some things that I didn't, that we didn't talk about in our meetings or the night before, she would always have it on the card. That, you know, I think this will be a great point here to counter. So it was a no-brainer for me. It was a no-brainer for me. And I'm glad she came. Sometimes she does get on my nerves, though. Also some 82. I'm sorry, but unless Arizona fix their O-line, any quarterback will have a hard time playing well. We agree. Pappy Ray, 94-45. What's up, King? ISO, the game that you had 10 three-pointers made, did you have a feeling pregame that you were going to get hot from three? No, I didn't have a feeling. I'm going to tell you something. I initially wasn't even going to play in that game. It was against Philly. I remember it like it was yesterday. My lady at the time, she was in the hospital getting ready to give birth to my daughter. And I was in the hospital with her. And she didn't want me to go play. She wanted me to stay there with her. I'm like, man, let me go play in the game, man. So she had no let me go play in the game, bro. And I was just hot that night. I left the game, went right back to the hospital. She's looking at me like, really? You go out there and play? The crag is here. They should let the GOAT of my generation, Miley Cyrus, do the halftime show. Don't joke? Yeah, I mean, Maddie cool. Maddie got a good following, huh? You know, she's been a little controversial over the years, but you know, she's not you know, I mean, she's still hot now. She's still hot. Huge following. All right, Em, what's up? Love this show, but y'all need to start introducing ISO as the reigning, defending nightcap champ to put some respect on her. Like that ain't happening. He already getting, he already getting. Fellas, fellas, fellas, fellas, fellas. Y'all just relax. Man, the people just, they voicing their opinions on what they think should happen, man. Just listen to me. Hey, sometimes people opinions be wrong, Joe. Just hear them out. I heard it, I read it out. That's all we did, Ocho and I. I read it out, I heard it. I heard it, I heard it. It went in one ear, not the other. Varys117, what's up, Ocho King. All right, so hypothetically speaking, if the Lakers win a championship this year and Bron is finals MVP, does he get a statue? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Two championships, two finals MVPs, absolutely. What? Rich McKinley, great show tonight. Thank you for the shout out the other day after my surgery. Praying for your surgery goes well and wishing you a speedy recovery. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. that concludes this episode of nightcap we want to thank mr tendinism mr walter johnson for joining us tonight we greatly greatly appreciate that and wherever he shows up guys let's make sure we go support whatever he's doing we greatly appreciate that please make sure y'all hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button uh uh and make sure you go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from uh y'all know who i am i'm your favorite up that is my partner and co-host that is the bingo ring of fame artery a former pro bowler and an all pro that is chad ochocinco johnson and the third member of the big three university of arkansas alum seven-time nba all-star university of arkansas y'all know him iso joe johnson ocho tell the chat about your new episode dropping tomorrow on the podcast the late run hey hey Hey, Chad, do me a small favor when you get a chance. Follow the Late Run on Instagram. 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