Life After the Shark Attack & Why I'm Choosing Joy | Sadie Robertson Huff & Lulu Gribbin
60 min
•Jan 21, 20264 months agoSummary
Sadie Robertson Huff interviews Lulu Gribbin and her family about surviving a shark attack in June 2024 that resulted in the amputation of her leg and arm. The episode explores how faith, family support, and a choice to find joy enabled Lulu's remarkable recovery and inspired the creation of her foundation to help other amputees access advanced rehabilitation technology.
Insights
- Trauma survivors who maintain strong faith communities and family bonds demonstrate significantly better psychological outcomes and faster physical recovery than those without such support systems
- Reframing disability as 'ability' rather than limitation creates psychological resilience and opens unexpected opportunities for impact and purpose
- The limb-different community operates as a powerful peer support network where practical knowledge-sharing (how to perform daily tasks with prosthetics) accelerates adaptation and reduces isolation
- Choosing joy and humor in the face of adversity is not denial but a spiritual practice rooted in hope and faith that enables forward momentum
- Proximity to specialized resources (like the Lakeshore Foundation being 5 minutes away) combined with determination can accelerate Paralympic-level athletic achievement
Trends
Rise of peer-to-peer support networks within disability communities replacing traditional clinical-only rehabilitation modelsFaith-based resilience frameworks gaining prominence in trauma recovery narratives, particularly among Gen Z audiencesAmputee athletes and limb-different individuals leveraging personal platforms to drive foundation work and medical technology accessibilityVirtual reality and advanced prosthetic technology becoming standard rehabilitation tools rather than experimental treatmentsYoung people with disabilities pursuing competitive athletics (Paralympics) as primary identity and career path rather than secondary pursuit
Topics
Shark attack survival and recoveryAmputation rehabilitation and prosthetic technologyFaith-based trauma recoveryDisability advocacy and foundation workParalympic athlete trainingFamily support systems in crisisPeer mentorship in limb-different communityVirtual reality in physical therapyTeenage identity after life-altering injurySisterhood and deep friendshipJoy and humor as coping mechanismsLulu's Law (legislative advocacy)Beautifully Flawed RetreatMental resilience and determinationAccessible sports training facilities
Companies
Lakeshore Foundation
Paralympic training facility 5 minutes from Lulu's home offering specialized coaching, nutrition, and accessible gym ...
People
Lulu Gribbin
17-year-old shark attack survivor who lost her leg and arm; founded Lulu Strong foundation to help other amputees acc...
Ellie Gribbin
Lulu's identical twin sister; present during shark attack and primary support person; helps manage family logistics w...
Ann Blair Gribbin
Mother of Lulu and Ellie; advocated for daughter's recovery and founded Lulu Strong foundation; emphasizes faith-base...
Bethany Hamilton
Professional surfer and shark attack survivor; mentor to Lulu through Beautifully Flawed Retreat for limb-different a...
Michaela
Paralyzed cheerleader who met Lulu at LO Conference; part of limb-different community providing peer support and frie...
Lauren Kennedy
Limb-different community member who provided instructional videos to Lulu on practical daily tasks with prosthetics
Dr. Forbus
Beach physician who held Lulu's severed femoral artery during shark attack, preventing fatal blood loss
Quotes
"What you look like does not define you. It's who you are on the inside that defines who you are."
Lulu Gribbin (advice from her mother)•Early in episode
"It's not a disability, it's an ability."
Ann Blair Gribbin•Mid-episode
"Why not let God use me and share his amazing gospel and glorify him."
Lulu Gribbin•Recovery discussion
"When the night gets darker, the stars shine brighter. Most people when life gets harder you don't shine brighter but those who are filled with the spirit do."
Sadie Robertson Huff (referencing sermon)•Early episode
"You could go the other way. I mean, a lot of people could go the opposite way. But that's not really how we operate because like, that would be miserable."
Ann Blair Gribbin•Mid-episode
Full Transcript
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These girls are foodies, too. I just want everyone to know. Because we went to Parrish last night. And Parrish is like our local restaurant here. And these girls ordered the oysters. We tried duck wraps. We were like straight up. It was so good. Full scent it. And we had tuna. I was impressed by like y'all ordering such big things for such little people. It was very impressive. But I'm so glad y'all are here. Today's going to be so much fun. I've been looking forward to this for a really long time. First question I ask everybody who comes on the podcast, so we're going to go down the line, is what's the best piece of advice you've ever been given, Lulu? So the best piece of advice I've ever been given is from my mom. Hey, shout out. Shout out. And it's what you look like does not define you. It's who you are on the inside that defines who you are. And this is a very crucial piece of advice for me, especially on the hospital, because I was struggling with my identity and because I had just lost my leg and my arm and I was struggling like am I going to be the weird girl like are people still going to like me am I going to have friends and then she told me that and it kind of just rested in my mind and I just have stuck with it throughout my whole journey. That's so cool and you can tell you didn't just stick with it like you walked in so much confidence and now like looking back I bet it's wild to think about those thoughts. Those are very real thoughts. But to think, am I going to have friends? Am I going to be a war girl? And now, a year later, you're thriving. It seems like your friendships are thriving. People adore you and love you. I've seen you modeling swimsuits and new clothing lines. And it's just really cool to see you take that advice and really take it to heart. So that's incredible. I love that, girl. What about you, Ann Blair? I think the best advice my dad ever gave me is always ask for what you want. And if it's a no, then you aren't any worse off than you were before. And it may be a no right now, no for right now, but it may be a yes later. And so always ask whether it's for on behalf of your friends, yourself, your family, just advocate for each other and always ask. You know what? That's so cool to hear you say that because typically you do when people say their best use of advice, you can see that bleed through their whole life. And this morning, whenever I was just like, looking up all the stuff y'all have done, I'm looking at the foundation that you guys started and how y'all the Lulu's law thing that y'all have gotten past and like y'all, you guys have like put in some work and gotten some stuff done. But a lot of that probably comes from you and your heart to advocate for your daughter for on behalf of other people. So it's really cool to know that your dad spoke that over you and to see how seriously you've taken it in life is amazing. Yeah, because you're not going to be any worse off than where you are right now. That's right. That's good. All right, Ellie, hit us. Mine kind of starts not, well, it starts with a story kind of. So every year we go to camp for three weeks and we get letters written by our parents. But this letter by my grandmother, she writes us a letter like every day and she draws a sunshine and it says, let your light shine. And so that's kind of just stuck with me. Just like be confident and be yourself all the time because you're just helping other people. Like you never know what other people are going through. So just smile always. That's great. Do you want me to read your verse? Yes. I love it. So we're going to Matthew 5, which I think we're going to Matthew 5. Are we going to verse 16? That's literally our family verse. In the same way, let your light shine before others so that they may see your good works and give glory to your father who is in heaven. That literally is our family verse. My mom has like, she has a pretty much anything she does. She like puts like a lighthouse on it to like remind us like we are the light of the world. So that is so cool. I was going to say this till the end, but I'm going to say it now, now that we're already reading scripture. So this morning I was listening to a sermon and it was such a good sermon. It was about like walking in the spirit. And it was from Ephesians 5 verse 20. but I'm going to back it up to verse 18 is what he was talking about. And this is going to sound so random to bring up, but hang with me. It says, and do not get drunk with wine for that is debauchery, but be filled with the spirit addressing one another in Psalms, hymns, spiritual songs, singing, making melody to the Lord with your heart, giving thanks always for everything to God, the father in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord. And the whole thing he was talking about, he's like, why did they compare, you know, getting drunk with wine to being filled with the spirit? He's like, why did the writer like say that or even bring that up? And he was saying because there actually are some similarities from the outside. When someone is drunk, they're more bold, more confident, seem to have joy, seem to be laughing. But it's based on something that's empty, that's temporary, that's fleeting. But when you're filled with the spirit, you have that same sense of like boldness that doesn't make any sense. Confidence that's like unheard of. Joy that doesn't. You're like, how are you so happy? But yeah, it's rooted in something that's so true. And he said, he goes down to verse 20, comparing that and says, giving thanks always and for everything. And he says, how could someone truly give thanks to God always and for everything? How could someone really have a smile on their face in every situation for everything? Only if they're filled with the Spirit and only if they're in Jesus. And he gave the example of how when the night gets darker, the stars shine brighter. and he said most people when life gets harder you you don't shine brighter but those who are filled with the spirit do and when he was talking about that this whole morning I was like man that is your family like that is so you Lulu that is so you Ellie that is so you and Blair like when life got dark y'all shined brighter and when you look at you and you go man like that has to be so hard but then I had dinner with you last night and we laughed our heads off and you were like you're so funny and you're so cute and we'll be talking and then you're like, I love your hair. And I'm like, thank you. You're like, so filled with joy and so filled with the spirit. It even made me laugh whenever you said, where, how'd you and Christian meet? And I said, 38. And you said, everything happens in 38. Girl, you're funny. I was like, okay, you're laughing. But that's the joy of the Lord. That's like, so your strength and your whole family strength. And so I just wanted to preface this podcast by saying, I'm so excited that you're going to tell your story. I'm so excited to hear from all of you and talk about life. But that's the kind of people that these people are. And I just want to say that because as you're listening to this, you might be like, how can a family have so much joy and have faced such hardship or such a, you know, hard situation? But these people love God. They love Jesus. And that's that bottom half of that verse where it says, have thanks always and everything to God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. And that's because I know your faith is strong. So I'm excited to dive into everything. But before we do, you guys are high schoolers. Like y'all are straight up in high school right now, junior. So tell us a little bit about what's a day in the life look like for Lulu and Ellie. It's definitely not a normal teenage girl lifestyle. We'll have days. I can't remember the last time I went to a full week of school. because I will be traveling for speaking engagements, for podcasts, for like being on the news. I have had a lot of press with my foundation being launched. So I'll leave school and go like just be on the media. But typically we'll go to school the whole day. I have PT once a week, golf once a week. And so I'm trying to just live my normal lifestyle. Like when everyone asks me, Like, how am I like so determined? And I'm just living like I'm just trying to be my normal self. And obviously it's going to look a little different because there's a new spotlight on me and I have to live differently to be able to be fulfilled. But I'm just trying to be myself and do the things that I love. And whether that has a spotlight or it doesn't, being more active, just trying to regain everything that we've lost. And then, like you said earlier, we've passed Lulu's law in the state of Alabama. And so that was awesome. And just a lot of press for my foundation has been fun right now. So cool. And I love public speaking and sharing my story and inspiring others. It's been so fun to see you, like, on social media, just following along. I'm like, okay, there she is crushing it in golf. And then she's speaking at motion. And, like, you're just doing so many amazing things. Like, your determination is so inspiring. Ellie, what's life look like for you right now? Are you fully in school? Are you traveling with your mom? Mainly fully in school. Lulu probably travels a lot more than me, but I do travel with her. So I was like in the morning, I wake up. We have Bible studies three, four times out of the five days a week. So go do that and go to school, pick up my siblings, run errands for the family. She runs lots of air driving around. Because you're doing ACT tutoring here and there. Let's go, girl, getting that score up. That's what we're trying. Trying to. and I work at my church on Wednesdays, but just doing everything I can to help the family out. That's awesome. That's amazing. So y'all are identical twins. Identical. Have they always been super close from your opinion? Oh, yeah, always. Super close, but very competitive. Yep. I can see that. That's awesome. This new year, I've been focused on taking care of myself in small, consistent ways that are sustainable. And one of those things has been Nutrafol. It's less like a resolution and more like self-care. If you've struggled with hair loss as you've gotten older or after having children, this is for you. For me, I have this little triangle area that just keeps falling out and getting thinner and thinner. And so I want to be proactive about that. That's why I love that Nutrafol takes a proactive approach to hair health by addressing the root causes of hair loss, like stress, hormones, nutrition, and aging with formulas designed specifically for different life stages. 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And so Ellie said, Ellie's face is like, I'm not sure. But you guys were going on a vacation, mom and daughter trip. And tell us a little bit about the day. We were on a mother-daughter trip in Florida and Inlet Beach last June of 2024. And this was really like the first time we had ever like done this kind of trip. and we were we had been there for like two nights or something and it was the third night or third day you grew up going to the beach though just your first time to do a mother daughter yes we grew up going to the beach just like different kind this is like a different anyways so we were in the water just diving for sand dollars and then we were riding the waves in and we were all just like body surfing and just like having fun like diving like and stuff we were waist deep and all of a sudden my best friend screamed shark and so I turned around and I didn't see like its head or its tail or fin or whatever but I saw its big shadow and so we all just like were swimming for our lives we didn't know what would happen we didn't know what to expect but in my head I was like oh we all need to calm down because I was thinking of like what people do in movies and like they stay calm to make sure like the shark doesn come after them to like I don know they not like a fish in the water And so I was like I yelled everyone stay calm And I was the farthest back because I was like the only one that really stayed calm Ellie and our other friend were already at the shore And then there was a few other girls in the water, but I knew something was off. And so I raised my hand out of the water and there was just nothing there. There was, it was just flesh and bone. And I remember just being like shocked. Like I didn't feel the shark bite it. And I made eye contact with one of my best friends who is still in the water and tried to call for help. No words came out. And so I was like, all right, she can't come help me. So I like looked around and then there was this other man who came and like, I just jumped into his arms, but he let go. And so I got really scared. And then there was this other man and I was going into his arms while the other guy was punching the shark off of me, which, wow, I can never do that. And then I blacked out in the water and I woke up on the shore Ellie was there there were strangers and I leaned forward and I saw my right leg's toes and I remember seeing the nail polish I saw a little bit of the wound but they pushed me back down so I wouldn't see it and then like they had tourniquet in my arm they tourniquet in my leg and it was I kind of remember I didn't feel like anything basically but like it was a slight pain like not very drastic of what you would think and then paramedics came they gave me ivs for like fluids and stuff and an oxygen mask but the whole time i didn't use the oxygen mask because i was so hot and i would so i would just hold it right like next to me and then they loaded me into a truck and a stretcher and then they put me into this tart bag and they carried me up flights of stairs and into the ambulance. And so I, when I was in the ambulance, I felt safe because it was like cold air. And I was like, all right, this is all going to be fine. And the paramedic asked me what my name was and I mumbled out Lulu, but he thought I said Lucy. And so then I said Lulu again. And I was like, he heard me and he told me that everything was going to be all right. And then like looking back at it now, like in that moment, I had no idea, But looking back at it now, that was literally just like God's peace. Wow. And so like the whole time, like my recovery, I've just had peace of like, it's going to be all right. It might be a little different, but you just have to fight. And so I had that mentality of everything's going to be fine. You just have to do your best to get by. And I woke up the next day intubated and they decided to amputate my leg. And but the next morning I was extubated. And the first words I said was I made it. And then we transferred to Charlotte for a specialized hand surgeon and they did specific surgeries on me and for like pain and to be able to control my phantom limbs and my brain. And it was a lot of cool technology that they had developed. And they had like this virtual reality headset, which was awesome. It helped me a lot. But in Charlotte, we spent like three months there because we did inpatient therapy there, which was an awesome decision. and I relearned how to like put on my hair, how to put on clothes, brush my teeth because I was in a bed for so long and I like didn't know how to do any of it because I only had one hand now. And so it's stuff you never think twice about. And then I actually relearned how to walk in the hospital with my doctors. It was awesome. You're incredible. Even just to like tell that story in so much detail, like you remember your nail polish and you remember the whole time, like when the shark bit my leg I didn't feel any pain just I think that was my way like I was in so much shock and like God was just there like he I don't need to feel the pain yeah and then like I didn't need the oxygen mask because he was putting the breath in my lungs and so it was really just like everything like all the people on the beach they were there because they were God's angels and so everything worked out so perfectly and I was just grateful to be alive and that saved girl now I'm the one crying. Oh my gosh. That was like so beautiful. Something you said last night really stuck out to me. And I was thinking about it this morning. You said that you wish you could remember more of it. You were like, everybody else has helped fill in my memory because they remember it. I wish I could remember it more. And I thought that's such an interesting perspective because a A lot of times when people go through things, they wish to forget it, but you wish to remember it. And what you just said put context as to why. And that's what makes me cry because you're like, because God was so there because he was my breath and because angels were around me. So like your perspective is I would have I would have seen God more, you know, and you did see God like so much like your perspective is just so incredible. I want to ask, because I brought up the quote that you said, why not me? When did that kind of flip in your brain? Like, were you asking why me? And then it flipped. And how did that happen? I woke up one night in Charlotte and I was just, I couldn't stop thinking, like, why do I have to go through this? Like, I have such a long road ahead of me. Like, why me? And so I was just crying, like, silently in my bed. And then finally, because mom was in the room and I didn't want to wake her up. And then I just finally yelled. I was like, mom. And I was like, why me, mom? Like, why do I like why me? And so she just kind of like held my hand. She told me the advice that I shared earlier. And then we also I can't I think it was this night. But we put this Bible verse on my hospital bed. And it's Mark 10, 27. and it's with God, nothing is impossible. And so whenever I was like in pain, like when I was getting a shot in my stomach or like they're doing ultrasounds or whatever, I would just look over and read that Bible verse and like all the pain would go away and I would just feel confident. And so like why not let God use me and to share his amazing gospel and to just glorify him. Wow, this is beautiful. 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I saw like the wound, like my calf. And so I thought like the whole time the shark had been my calf. And so I thought I had my knee when I woke up. Like, I knew that they had amputated it, but the whole, like, for the whole first week while we were in Pensacola, I thought it was, like, below the knee. And then, like, they didn't tell me until we got to Charlotte that it was, like, above the knee, right? Wow. You thought your leg was still there. Yeah. Wow. That's the craziest thing, because I'd heard, I'd read that before, like, when people get bit by a shark, they don't actually feel it. Because you're in so much shock. Because you're in so much shock, but that is wild. That is a wild experience. So how many days was that until you found that out? I think day five when we were transferring to Charlotte, maybe. Do you remember? Well, I remember after your surgery. So I stayed up all night, like that night. And she woke up and held my hand. And then she motioned with scissors. And she motioned with scissors. And I was like, I had to. So then she knew that night. but I don't think she knew where it was. But the cool thing about that night was, I mean, yes, I told her she had her leg amputated, but we have in our family, we say 143, which means I love you. And so she said 143 with her hands. I couldn't talk because I was intubated. So I was like, I love you. And so that was like very emotional. Wow. I heard, I mean, I think I read this. I'm not sure where I heard it or maybe you shared it last night, but you mentioned she got bit in the thigh and wasn't there like an artery or something that. Yeah. So the shark had bit my femoral artery. And when that is cut or clipped or whatever, severed. But when that's even like just like scratch or something, you can bleed out in under a minute. And it was such a blessing to have Dr. Forbus. he is like this big doctor guy and he literally just held the artery with his hands very muscular on the beach on the beach he was there and he saw that yes oh my gosh i don't even like so that's what you mean by there were literally angels all around you yes oh my god literal like there was like the tourniquets they use like there it wasn't just like happened to be around like it was obviously in the right spot like they use like wow cookie board string yeah someone's story was like a wife and a husband and the wife just like went to the husband's bathing suit and just ripped the string out i told you like i read everything i went deep whenever this happened and was like reading all of your carry bridge i was reading other people's posts and i remember reading the nurse which i brought up last night okay do y'all remember the dream she had the night before that was crazy so she came and visited us in charlotte and she and her sister who were at the beach that day and she told us that story and she thought it was her younger sister who was being bit by a shark. She said she had this weird dream the night before. Yeah, for context, tell that story. So the night before she had a dream that her younger sister was getting bit by a shark. Yes, the night before she had had a dream. They were on like a bachelorette party for her sister getting married or maybe it was her sister-in-law. I can't remember which one, but she had had this dream about being at the beach and that something like a shark attack happened and she had the dream that it was her sister or sister-in-law and that she needed to do something to save her. And it wasn't her sister, it was Lulu. And she, so when we talk about angels on the beach, so there were doctors, there were nurses, there were just so many people that were put in that spot. So it was God saved her and had all the people in the right place that needed to be there for her. She lost two-thirds of her blood. And literally, she should not be alive. If medically you say that, there's no way she should be alive. It's a true miracle. It's like the verse, faith is like the confidence and the things that you hope for and the assurance of things you cannot see. He was 11-1. girl. And I was thinking about your situation where you look at that and some people go, why would God let that happen? And we can't answer all those like why questions, but it's so evident that God was there and that he was so for you. He gave people dreams. There were doctors there. There were nurses. There's someone who knew to hold that artery. And it's like, there's a faith aspect in it. And it's like, we're not going to ever understand it all. We can't really, you know, know for certain where he was and what his plan was, but you know he was there and it's undeniable. So to me, it wasn't, I mean, yes, there's always questions, but looking back, it's, you know, why did God do this to me? It wasn't God doing anything to her. It was God saving her. That's right. Come on. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. I just love y'all's family so much. Ellie, tell us a little bit from you as a twin sister, just being there for your sister. What's interesting this podcast so Wednesdays we call it well that's good but on Mondays we call it sisters and friends and they're the same podcast they're just on a different day but so much of the heart of LO is to be a sister and a friend and when I look at you all like you guys are the epitome of like sisterhood and friendship of what like that should look like um and you guys literally went through this together I mean you were there um that day and with her and I know you're helping steady your mom so tell us a little bit about what god was doing in your heart give me now give me now give me now when i was there i got i was obviously out of the water before lulu um so i kind of just watched it play out from the shore and then when she got to the shore i kind of was the only person there because all of our friends like dispersed i don't know where they went but one of our other friends also got um bit on her ankle so her sister was with her but I was just there for Lulu I was holding her head because she was still sort of in the water so the waves were still like crashing on her so I was just holding her head out of the water and then I was holding her other hand and then there was like I I want to say six or seven but I don't want to say it um but that's how many you're trying to avoid six yeah that's how many I think nurses or in doctors and just people were there um I was the only person I think Lulu knew there. Our mom never really went up to Lulu because when our mom got there, she was already blacked out. But when she got there, I was just like, held mom, and I was like, it's gonna be okay. And she was like, no it's not. I was like it gonna be okay But it was quite the scene And we were just on the way to a hospital that we didn even know what hospital we were in I was like updating I had to call my dad and tell him, and he was like, what? I literally probably said like five words. I was like, no, you might not see her again. I love you. Bye. but um he um ended up getting on a plane with our mom's best friend but during that whole car ride it was kind of just like praying on repeat and texting friends to keep I had one friend I would text and she kind of kept everyone else updated we called our um priests and just like our family members I remember talking to my grandmother and being like she's never going to play volleyball again like I knew her leg was gone but like I didn't want to admit it so yeah and then you guys because that's so much to go through together but I know you guys went back to 30a I don't know when you guys went back but when did y'all go back and sit on the stand together that was the Ophelia trip yeah that's when they stated um wow I didn't realize that was that trip this is kind of small world um my so Christian's cousin Blakely for those who are listening they I know Blakely's awesome they um you know have a place down in 30a and they also work with Ophelia and we're running their socials and I know you guys teamed up with them and so it's crazy like our worlds have kind of begun to collide in these like beautiful ways but I didn't realize it was that trip for y'all tell us a little bit about what that was like going back together and because I feel like I've heard a quote before it's really helped me it says God reveals things to redeem things so like when you go back to a situation that's like mimicking something really hard you walk through he normally brings you back not to bring you back to the trauma and the pain of it but to like redeem the trauma and the pain of it was that redeeming for y'all to go back to me I guess just like healing too especially because going back with all of our friends and because most of our friends were at the beach when all everything went down it was definitely awesome and we got to go with mom and it was dad dad yeah it was very freeing and t-dog yeah and t-dog and on the last day I remember like just I we went back to the exact spot it happened right we were like leaving on the way out in our cars and we just like drove probably 10 miles down the beach and like went to sandy shores which is where we stayed and we just went in the public parking area and like tried to find which boardwalk it was and like went to the exact spot like where the public people were sitting we went to the right of them and we just like stood and all took it in and I like just I I wanted to like just lay in the sand and just like re like on it doesn't like try like obviously it's traumatizing but it doesn't traumatize me I just wanted that feeling again and I like forced Ellie to like hold my head and like just hold my hand and it was very emotional but it was also like gave us such a sense of freedom and relief and it was just an awesome day wow it reminds me so much of like even in that sermon i was listening to some of the gospel is like bringing like death to life and it's like you wanted to relive that experience of like being very close to death but like being resurrected to life and like you all came back and you're holding her head and you're in her hand um as like a sign of like victory like you made it through like you did you made it you made it you made it made it for sure yeah of life okay real talk fam you don't need a huge yard a greenhouse or landscaping crew to have beautiful plants in your life whether you're in a dorm room a tiny apartment or your first house plants instantly make a space feel like home that's why i have been loving fast growing trees They are actually the largest online nursery in the country, which means they have over 1,600 unique options for literally every kind of space. 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Well, I mean, the whole car ride, how many times did we say over and over, God, please let her breathe. And the whole time she was like hyperventilating. So it's like, please breathe leave it here leave it here to keep you humble I know but knowing just like what we saw like I guess I can still see it on the beach like see her there and like the leg and like knowing what I know that she shouldn't be here the power of prayers very real and the prayers that all of our community had so Ellie mentioned that like our minister at our church. He prayed over us in the car at our church in Birmingham. They all gathered while she was in surgery. Just the power of prayer is very real. So cool. Okay, so y'all are those people, though, that you don't just like get through something, you like power through and then make something good out of it. I've heard that you've say you want to be in the Paralympics. Y'all are like going for big dreams, big things, starting foundations. You know, there's obviously a time where I'm sure it felt like, what is my life going to look like now? Like you said, you're grieving like, I'm not going to be able to play volleyball again. I'm not going to be able. When did that shift happen for me of like, OK, I'm not going to get my life back the way it was, but my life could be actually really good going forward. Do you remember that kind of shift in your brain where you started dreaming forward? for me it was like in the hospital when I was like just like crying and then I was like it hit and I was like okay like this isn't what I can't it's not what I can't do it's what I can do and like mom says it all the time it's not a disability it's an ability and so I've been given opportunities through the loss that I've had and I've always grown up competitive playing sports. And so in the hospital, like my doctors were like, because normally it takes months to receive prosthetics and then to learn on the walk them. And I was like, Nope, I'm going to learn. I'm going to walk out of the hospital and you will see it with your own eyes of me walking out of the hospital and I will make this happen. And they were like, okay, I'd love to see that happen. And I, we, me and my physical therapist and occupational therapist, we made it happen. And And lots of hard work goes into it. And just like the mindset of you can do it because obviously it's hard. And there's a lot of mental blocks of like just relearning how to walk on a piece of metal. But I was just so focused and so determined. And I did it. And I feel like that's how everything is. It's like you can do whatever you put your mind to. And because if you fall, God's always there to pick you up. And even though your life changes and your life throws curveballs at us, it doesn't matter because God stays the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, and forever. And I love that verse. And it's just he is constant. And so if you want to get something done, you will if you are willing to get it done. It's awesome. And I would say also, I think there's two pieces to that as well. when we were in inpatient rehab, like on that floor, there were head injuries. There were people who would never be able to walk that didn't have like control. And so we saw like people that were worse off than where we thought we were. So it kind of put it in perspective of like, I still have a sound mind. Like I may be missing an arm and a leg, but she is still there. She's her same personality, regardless of what she looks like. And so with that, I think also Lulu's journey has been like an anomaly from an amputee perspective. And so it's kind of unfair for other amputees that go through it. So our mission really is to help other amputees have the same experience that she got to experience because most people don't. Well, so that's what the foundation is to help others. That's kind of how the foundation evolved. Yes. I had this virtual reality headset. It eliminated all of the pain in my arm. Wow. And it helped me to control my prosthetic arm. And I got my prosthetics just two months after the accident. Normally, it can take up to a whole year. Wow. And so, yeah, it is an anomaly that I got all of this cool technology. And not everyone gets that right when their accident happens. And so our goal is to just fundraise that research and make it possible for other amputees. So how do people give? Is there a website? Yeah, there's lulustrong.com. Okay. And there's a Donate Now button. And merch. Well, that's good, listeners. If you're not going there right now, there's something wrong with you. But it truly was seeing, like, you know, this does not define you. It's what we do with it. Like, you ask, why God? Well, God did it for her to do something bigger with it. And it's turning, even though it is a bad circumstance, there's so much good that comes from it. And you just have to, it's a choice that we get to make. And we like, we get the choice every single day of waking up with a smile and waking up with joy. And so you just have to make that choice. Because you could go the other way. I mean, a lot of people could go the opposite way. Yes. And that's not really how we operate because like, that would be miserable. That's y'all. That's why I was saying like, I love your family. Y'all are so like down to earth. Y'all love God. And what you said last night, my mom always says this. My mom's like, because people ask my mom, like, how did your kids not go crazy? Just, you know, having a reality TV show at such a young age and all that. And a lot of families do go that route. And everybody, you know, moves away and loses their mind and all that kind of stuff. And my mom was like, even though our life changed circumstantially, like, the things that matter stayed the same. And my mom's like, that's the key. Like, that's grounding. Like, our family stayed the same. We live in the same place. We're going to church on Sunday. Like we didn't, it didn't change the things that really matter to us and our priorities. And that was so how like you and your husband kept it afloat. I mean, your village, you're talking about your church rallying, talking about your little brother keeping you humble last night. Your little brother's like, get up and get your own water. And you're like, dude, I don't have leg. Like y'all are just like real. And I love how you said like you could act the other way. We talked about this last night. You were like, people kind of like have to be nice to me. Like, no, no, not every like people have. accidents all the time and this doesn't happen to their life. You know, you, God like made you so wonderful when he knit you together and your mother's womb, he knew the kind of person you were going to be and how you were going to handle a situation like this. Not everybody looks at a doctor and says, I'm going to walk out of here and you're going to see it with your own eyes. Not everybody talks about God being faithful yesterday and forever. Not everybody is a sister like you that says, Hey, this was traumatizing, but I'm going to go back down to the beach and I'm going to hold your head because this is how we're going to heal together. Like you guys have taken each step and leaned in to God instead of like ran away. And that's why y'all have like so much joy. And it's incredible. It really is. I want to ask you because at LO conference this year, there's I actually is. Yeah, there's a picture. If there's not a picture, it's burned in my memory forever because I cried seeing it. You and Michaela. No, holding hands. and worshiping, standing right beside each other. Michaela, for those who don't know, she's been on before, but she was paralyzed by a cheerleading accident. She was doing a flip and it didn't go well. And she's paralyzed. She was a very competitive cheerleader, a beautiful girl. And she's similar to you in that she's so determined and that she loves the Lord and she's using her platform for so much good. But y'all didn't know each other before conference, huh? So we had connected through social media because once you're like get in that world it's just like this own world of like you know everyone knows everyone and so we had connected and we had just like chatted over social media and I had no idea that she was going to be at conference and then when we got there we met her and I was just like starstruck because she's like this awesome cool social media influencer and I was like no way and so I we met her and it was just awesome like she is so filled with the spirit and I think it's so important to like there like have that inclusion I guess because there's so like it's so hard to like get focused on like the regular everyday people and then there's just us and Michaela and so I think it was so awesome just uniting and just showing that we can like be here we can worship the Lord even though we have a disability and we got to hold hands and it was just very powerful and such a like emotional and moving night and then Lauren Daigle spoke about like my friend Blakely who just lost her arm and then this other girl who got paralyzed and it like hit us hard because like we had gone through it and it was like all just like moment after moment after moment of just like God being with us And it was just incredible like getting to meet her and like now we like text each other all the time and we're just like friends and it's like so fun and so uplifting. That's so cool. That's the one thing that's been cool about y'all story too, is you talked about connecting with Bethany Hamilton, Lauren Kennedy, Allie, I don't know her last name, true it um several different people and you said how the world gets kind of small i feel like that is like the beauty of the body of christ the beauty of the church like when it comes to community um what has that meant to you just having other people that have gone through it how is it how's helped all of you guys i'm sure it's i remember whenever we started low and i had all the what ifs what if i fail what if it isn't where i need to be and looking back i can see so clearly that god had his hand in the whole thing. Starting something new is exciting, but it's also very scary. And that's why I'm thankful for Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the US from massive brands to tiny startups. 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Well, we didn't know it before, but the limb different community is so very helpful and wanting to give you advice. like Bethany Hamilton, like Lulu and Ellie went this past year and Lulu went last year to her retreat called the Beautifully Flawed Retreat. And it's a retreat for limb different girls so that you can like be around other people that are like you. And so I think that was very helpful for Lulu. I don't know if you want to expand on how that helped you seeing that. Just because you don't just come across like an amputee every day. And so just being in the community where everyone has experienced what you've gone through of loss of a limb or like just being born without a limb they know like your struggles and your pain and it's truly one of the best experiences ever and then I have like friend one of my friends in Georgia she is so sweet like she'll just like I'll ask her like how do you go to the bathroom like in the beginning and I was She'd send me videos. What's her name? Nan. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. She's amazing. And so it's so awesome. They're so willing to help you. They don't care. They're just like, because they've been through it. They needed help. And so now that's what I want to do now, just help others go through the hard times, re-teach them how to do their hair, how to put on shoes. That's right. Lauren Kennedy, we got a video from her being like, okay this is how you use nub to put up your hair in a clip like so super helpful wow that is just like such an awesome community to be a part of oh wait that is so cool i love that you would never know that like that is so cool how people rally around that is what it's all about like sisterhood and friendship we're coming in and like again how do you go to the bathroom like how do you put your hair up like you gotta ask those like practical questions you don't think about man that's that It was like so cool to hear. So I mentioned that. Well, first, I got to back it up because y'all went to the Bethany Hamilton thing and you both surfed. Yeah. What was that like getting back in the water and actually surfing? Because we talked about this. I told you I was like, I've always been scared of the water. I've like my family has like made fun of me because I'm the one that like doesn't want to get in the water. Then I married a family from Florida who loves to get in the water. And I was like, OK, I'll overcome this fear. But you talked about how you were afraid to get in the water beforehand, like just like everybody is. And then you actually got bit by a shark and then you got back in the water. Like talk about crazy confidence. What was what was that like? It was definitely hard getting back in the water just because that's like where my life completely shifted. Right. But like and the first time I got back in the water was in California and we were surfing and it was awesome. My mom was there. So she was talking through a video. and like all the girls are cheering me on because they like knew how hard it was but when I got on the surfboard I was just like felt free and like I just let the wind blow through my hair I would fall in the ocean and splash and it was literally just pure joy I cannot stop smiling and it was just so much fun and it was it would be scary like it sounds scary like from an outside perspective of like getting back in the water but like once I was in I was I was in and there was just like just I kept on surfing I probably went like 20 times it was so fun tell her the story about the guy before you got on that what story about how he's like you won't get bit by short okay yeah I'll tell you the story I mean you don't have to go you don't have to go in there but this is like we were like and before i went in the before i the first time i went in yes that's true it's true before the very first time i went in there were these like we had like these other people were just like because i was just looking out into the ocean like by myself just like contemplating like my decision and just like thinking about it like letting the nerve set in and like the fear and whatever and just like thinking like i can do this like and this other guy came up to me i was like are you nervous and i was like yeah and he was like it's okay the worst thing that can happen is you get bit by a shark and i was like did he know you had gotten bit by oh my god his wife and i were like did he really just say that yeah his wife comes i was like bro hey she is the one who got bit by the shark he was like so embarrassed like foot out of the mouth i still got in after that and i was like i conquered it and i was all the nerves went away well it was just like a brief but i think that that story made us obviously laugh yeah it was like more of like a calming thing definitely calming you made me laugh last night when you were like well i mean the odds of getting bit by a shark are like one in a million and it happened to me once so what are the odds it would happen to me twice and it's like you're you're just perspective i think joy is such a key like being able to laugh in the face of like adversity and not laugh in a bad way but it's like you gotta laugh to keep from crying like what does it say progress 31 woman like she um laughs at the fear of the future it's like yeah you could you know be scared and anxious and all the time and do that and you have every right to be but it's like Well, that's not a way to that's not the way you want to live your life. No, like you choose joy. Not living in fear. Another funny story about that. So when we were in the hospital, Ellie was in, Lily was supposed to be in Orlando playing in nationals at volleyball. So I ended up flying, leaving the hospital because I wanted to be there for Ellie because Ellie was having a hard time. She was there by herself. So anyway, there's two pieces to the story. The first game that they had, they were playing a team called the Sharks. And the team called the Sharks went to the wrong court and didn't end up showing up. So they had to forfeit. So they're like, there's like a weird sign right there. And then the next day we had like clappers, you know, like clapper things with like the hands. Well, I like clapped mine and one fell off. And I was like, looked at like the parents. I was like, I only have one hand. And they were like mortified that I said that. But I'm like, this is so like funny. Like one hand clapper. Lulu just lost her hand. They're like, it might be too soon for you to like joke about this. I was like, well, what are we going to do? Like you have to laugh about it. You have to laugh instead of be sad. Yes. I think it brings so much. Again, it's like the comparison that Paul writes of like being drunk and being filled with the spirit. Because people look at you and you're like, how could you laugh? How could you smile? And it's like, it's not because I'm being drunk and loose and flip it. It's because I have a deep hope. I have an anchored source of hope in life. And we know resurrection comes from death. And so it's just amazing how rooted y'all are in Christ. You guys just are so filled with the Spirit that so many Bible verses come out of your mouth. So much wisdom comes out of your mouth. And this whole podcast is centered around advice. Like we always ask, what's the best piece of advice? and so much of that for me like why I wanted to do that is because I've gotten so much good advice from my mom from my grandma from my great-grandmother and I'm like I want to give that to other people because not everybody has that but you two girls have that y'all have quoted your mom so much and gone so back to like the things she said to you in those times of struggle in those times of need and I love how even today she sat in the middle and y'all were like help us if we don't know what to say like you're just an incredible mom and you pour so much into your girls and now y'all are little world changers like i can't wait to see what's next the sky is like literally the limit for i mean not you're gonna bust past the sky like i can't wait to see all you're gonna do uh so tell us a little bit about what's next so we can start cheering y'all on i know we're gonna we're all gonna go get to the foundation and then uh tell us about kind of like the paralympic what you're gonna start training if you want to what your goals are a little bit of what was next so we just like had the official launch party for our foundation this past week and that was super fun just getting to spread awareness and having my foundation like official official and like being able to just like see people supporting me and the foundation and then we toured we have this foundation like five minutes down the road from it's called the lakeshore foundation and it's the paralympic training site and so we toured that the other day and it just like opened my mind to so many sports like there's so many opportunities and so I definitely we're gonna when we're gonna move back in me and Ellie are gonna go train up there but I don't know right now what sport I want to do I'm kind of open to whatever suits me best and obviously which one I like the best and so I'm just excited and I really hope that I can qualify for the Paralympics and just to see like where all I can go but the good thing about like the foundation the Lakeshore Foundation is like I learned I didn't go on the tour but Lulu like came and was like they like can tell me like what sports I'm good at before I even like try them so like they'll help her in like all the ways they have a nutritionist like they have so much stuff and so many, like, what's the word, like, things accessible for her to use that will help her. And they, like, think of everything because obviously, like, they have people who are, like, paralyzed and, like, people who don't have limbs, and so they'll think, like, their gyms have to be more spacious. They have to have adaptations for people to be able to lift things because there's so much, they're so accessible, and it is just awesome, and it is literally just, like, right down the door from us. That's crazy. And it is, like, another god thing. like not many people have like a Paralympic training center five minutes from then like I mean how many times we passed that never once been in that's crazy God definitely has huge things for y'all's family he's already showing y'all that and you guys are stepping into it with so much faith and so much fullness I love you guys I'm so grateful to know y'all and I'm so glad y'all did this podcast thank you this is gonna bless so many people listening um and we can't wait to continue following you along and cheering y'all on. So I also want to say you sent Lulu like a big care package in the mail, like with books and swag and letters. And that was like, so meaningful and like so special. That's so sweet. That's so sweet. Well, from the minute it happened, we were like, how can we help in any way? And you know, it's funny when I spoke at Motion and I was talking to Mary Lauren, I totally thought I was going to be with y'all. And then it was all your friends, which was ended up being really, really sweet getting to do the Bible study with all your friends. But what really struck me about your community is how much they really do love you guys and believe in y'all. And we're so praying for y'all. We're excited for you to be back in school. And you guys are surrounded by some gems for sure. But that speaks a lot to y'all's character a lot. But thank you for saying that. This is so sweet. No, we appreciate it. And the other thing, you talk about like sisters, like your sister podcast. So like their group of friends, like they were close before, but now there will be like sisters for life. You know, you go through something like traumatic, like their group of friends is not, they just become closer. Wow. Yeah. I feel like that's the thing with sisterhood. When we say like we want to be a sister and a friend, it's one thing to be a friend. It's another thing to be a sister. because like a sister, when you go through something and you change, like your relationship doesn't change. It actually gets deeper, you know, or with a sister, you can cry and you're not thinking twice about what you look like or what they're thinking. Are they judging you? Like they're just here for it. You know, they're here for the whole thing. They're here again. So like in the mess of it to get in the sand, to hold your hand, like that's a sister. Whereas sometimes like when it's just a surface level friendship, you've second guess what you're saying, what you're looking like are they going to be there is it going to change but like I'm sure you probably not even question that with each other like that's just of course you're going to be there that's your sister and the more I think you know in Christ like we're called to sisterhood like we're a family and so to love people like that is such a gift so foreign to the world to go like I'm actually gonna like be there more for you we're gonna go deeper we're gonna cheer you on I'm gonna get on a phone call or a video and teach you how to put your hair in a ponytail i'm gonna show you whatever it is i'm gonna last night such a sister moment you were eating the oyster and then we realized it was because it was gonna be hard and you're like i'll feed you the oyster like do you want the oyster like this is a sister you know it's like yeah you can ask that and so i'm glad you brought that up Outro Music