Oh God, ANOTHER Racist GOP Group Chat Leaked

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Hey everybody, Tim Miller from the Bulwark here with my colleague Will Sommer, author of the False Flag newsletter. And he's like on a generational run this week. I don't know what to tell you. X Twitter feed last night was making me laugh with a bunch of different crazy stories happening in the right. I guess you have a lot of fodder to work with, a lot happening in the maga world these days. And so we're definitely going to do Candace because I just, I can't help myself. Okay? I just, I can't. I just. I need to consume more. Candace. Death of Charlie. But we also have your newsletter about a fight between Laura Loomer and Tucker Carlson and some other. So other maybe bonus goodies. We'll see how it goes. But why don't I do this, actually? I'm going to read people the lead. You know, the term of art in journalism, you know, to have to have a good lead paragraph and lead sentence. You want to draw the reader in. Hijackers in California late last month, made off of the truck filled with nearly 400,000 limited edition tins of ALP, the nicotine pouch brand founded by Tucker Carlson. The theft may have left Carlson fans jonesing for their tropical favorite extra high dose of nicotine, but it pleased at least one luminary of the Magus film. Talk to us about what happens, what's happening there.

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Sure. So look, I mean, Tucker Carlson has a nicotine pouch company called alp. I mean, this really is kind of like a fast and furious truck hijacking situation. They were coming out with a new flavor called Drifter, and it was going to be extra nicotine and extra flavor. And someone in California made off with the truck. Enter Laura Loomer, who is only too happy to see her enemy Tucker Carlson suffer. And she says, oh, what a tough week for Tucker. It's So tough to be Tucker, or as she calls him, Tucker Carlson. So I use this kind of look at the broader feud between them, which is getting really ugly and starting to affect. They're kind of taking aim at each other's bank accounts, which is kind of a line you don't always cross in right wing media.

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And their feud is over Israel.

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Yeah, it's over Israel. You know, Laura wants, you know, maximal Trump support for Israel. Tucker has aligned himself with places like Qatar. I mean, he's also now he's suggesting that specific Jewish groups outside of Israel, you know, caused the Iran war. He's very into the kind of this puppet master, you know, anti Semitism.

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Got it. So I just, like, there's no other, you know, this is not like a scorned lover situation, you know, or there's nothing else behind the scenes. As we just think about the players here, this is pretty much just a proxy fight between like the MAGA anti Semitism curious wing and the MAGA pro Israel wing.

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Yeah, kind of the, the extreme hawks, I mean, is, you know, Laura hates Muslims. Tucker seemed to, you know, kind of soften on Muslims and they're kind of fighting over this. But, but obviously in the run up to the war and then now the war itself, you know, things, the stakes have gotten even higher.

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Now I've got to ask you the obvious subtext question to this, which is, do we think that Israel was involved in the hijack?

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Well, they haven't caught the thieves. ALP has put out $100,000 bounty. They say they want these thieves caught. They say if you see cans of Alp Drifter floating around your neighborhood, your bodega, you know, give them a call because they want to crack down on this kind of stuff. Supposedly it was worth millions of dollars. So.

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Yeah, and Tucker pitches. This is like the more masculine version of Zinn.

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Anyone who loves Zen and I asked them to try out, it's like, oh, my God.

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He's made some jokes recently about how Zen users put their nicotine pouches up their butt. Well, as his very masculine users have extra nicotine and you know, like a real man, they put the pouch in their lip.

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Simply an oral fixation. Nothing gay, More masculine.

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Nothing gay happening here. Okay, well, do we have any. But there are no theories out there on what's happening with the hijacking, whether that there's a political or just a financial incentive.

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So supposedly the thieves used a forged identification card. So, you know, was it an issue at the truck depot? Depot? Was it an ALP inside job. I mean, I don't think there's necessarily evidence of that, but. But there is a little more intrigue. You know, it's not like someone just came up with a gun. So it, you know, it seems like there's a bit of a ruse that took place.

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So Laura's gone after alp, and in addition, I guess to this, supporting this hijacking, has, like, literally tried to go after them through the regulatory elements of her relationships. I was about to say assets with her friends inside the Trump White House, trying to get them to create regulatory challenges for the. For the pouch.

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That's right. So ALP is going through an FDA approval, and the Trump administration, I didn't know this, but they created a sort of accelerated approval for nicotine products. You know, they took over, they said, we gotta get more of these pouches on the market. And so ALP is still going through that. Laura is trying to kind of mess that up for them somehow, or maybe delay it. She filed a complaint saying they aren't in their social media posts, they aren't including warning labels for nicotine, which would violate the rules. And they have a pretty crazy social media presence at ALP, where they'll say things like, you know, RFK Jr. And Cash Patel, like, they love their ALP, and so they're kind of making it look like it's an endorsement. And then the real thing is, I mean, they really go after Laura Loomer. I mean, I think it's typically, you don't have a tobacco company kind of specifically targeting individuals, but they'll say discount code, Larry Loomer, which the implication is that Laura is transgender. And they'll post pictures of Laura and they'll say, you know, look at this loser. And. But everyone at Cool is at a party eating Alpine, and she's. And she's looking in from the window. So she's claiming that they're abusing their rights of publicity and sort of stealing her image to sell their tobacco or their nicotine.

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Got it. I don't think that, you know, we need to be waiting with bated breath for whether the Tucker Carlson Pouch gets approved by the Trump administration. Feels like that's. That's going to be a pretty smooth effort, but good luck to Laura on that front. Tucker is shooting back also, though, going after products that Laura is endorsing.

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That's right. This is interesting. And I mean, this is kind of like even a broader effort to take on, to sort of set himself up as like, the only honest man in conservative media. He's going after these gold IRA companies where people can invest their retirement savings in like, gold coins. Much of the gold IRA business is not actually about selling gold at all. It's about selling massively marked up coins to people who trust the voices delivering the pitch. As you know, I mean, the, this has been like the lifeblood economically for a lot of these right wing pundits. People like Mike Huckabee, Mark Levin, Laura Loomer's in the game now as well.

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In a weird way. It's, you know, gold. If you're in gold. And the market's been doing well recently in part because of the way in which Donald Trump's destabilized thing, I think that's an accident, but he's not trying

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to get a payoff for people like Mike Huckabee.

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But.

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Well, this is kind of where it gets interesting, which is that these companies, they kind of, they do some ruses. So it's not like you're buying gold on a more traditional gold marketplace. They're sending you the gold bars. You have to sound like you're in

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your Charles Schwab account, you know, where you have a credible, you know, counterparty.

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Exactly. I mean, in his case, Tucker claims that he was offered $20 million to endorse a gold IRA. And he said, wait a minute, how do they have all this money to splash out if they're essentially trading a commodity? They should be taking just kind of a tiny, like, transaction slice. Well, as it turns out, a lot of these companies have been sued for various schemes. They sell them to retirees at huge markups. Now Tucker, he has his own gold company. He says it's the Honest Gold Company. And now he's taking aim at people like Laura and essentially saying, like, you know, they've sold you guys out. They're tricking their audience into buying these gold that is really way too expensive or you can't really liquidate it.

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Okay, well, we'll continue to monitor that. I don't, I think unrelated, this might be maybe an area, well, partially an area of rapprochement between Loomer and Tucker. Have you seen the Tucker Carlson Network has, has updated their store? We're working on updating our store as well to give you guys great stuff like capitalist wing of antifa and potato boys merch and wokebill crystal merch. Tucker has updated his store. Did you catch this?

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Yes, I have.

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Yeah. Why don't we put up some of these on the screen here? Nation building is gay. That feels like an attack on Pete Hegseth Neocons are gay. Underneath that, for Israel. Subtle apac. An offer you can't refuse. Psyop critic. What is that? It's kind of like the Chandler Bing version of Tucker. I think it's like, what is that? Seriously? Really? Any other thoughts on the. On the Tucker Carlson story? It seems like he's leaning in, I guess, to just being the new Alex Jones.

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I kind of like the psyop one. It's like, what, Psyop disrespect or something?

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Yeah, Psyop critic.

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I could wear that. I try to criticize the psyops as I see them around me.

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Yeah, I don't think we'd want to support his store, but. Yeah, because I'm with you. I was kind of interested in nation building as gay. Like, kind of adding an exclamation point at the end. But anyway. Okay, a couple of other things out there that you've been posting about. Which one should we do? What's the most fun? Dealer's choice. Do you think that we should talk about Gooning and Agartha or Tony Gonzalez or the. Or the getting banned from Waffle House?

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Well, you know, why don't we do Gooning and Agartha?

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Okay. This was the one I locked in on the least, so I'm gonna let you cook on it. Essentially, it was a Young Republican group chat. You'll be surprised to learn there was some racism in there. The group chat name was Gooning and Agartha. Tell us about what that name is and what we are seeing in the chat.

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Yeah, before we launch in, let's just explain what Gooning is. And again, this is gonna get a little adult.

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Our viewers know about gooning, don't they? Well, maybe not.

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I mean, gooning is sort of a very intense form of masturbation where, you know, you. You kind of like. Or so I'm told, you surround your. You know, you kind of, like, lock in for hours at a time. And that's what gooning is.

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You kind of, like, unlock your jaw to, like, your tongue is hanging out.

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Yeah, you're. You're sort of. You're like, so, like, dopamine flooded.

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Yeah.

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And so that's sort of a neologism. And Agartha is a sort of mystical imagination of, like, a Hitlerian fantasy world where, like, everyone's white. It's, like, kind of like esoteric and occult. It's kind of like what the Nazis in Indiana Jones might have been looking for.

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So it's like, kind of like tense white nationalist Masturbation.

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Exactly. I'm in my kind of like white nationalist, like, Tibetan paradise. Gooning.

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Got it. So, yeah, so it's kind of like, you know, what was it? You have all the virgins, you know, for the radical Islamists, like, when they die, they go to a place, you know, with whatever the number was, 10,000 virgins. This is kind of like that, but for the white nationalists. Gooning and I go, yeah.

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And of course, the irony here is I don't think there were any white nationalists in this chat.

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Ah, interesting. Tell me more.

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Yes. So this was a chat that included the GOP Miami, the secretary, so the officer there in that club, the Turning Point USA chapter president, and I think Florida International University. So, like, a lot of kind of like up and coming GOP operative types, all of whom I believe were Latino, certainly a majority of them. And on Wednesday, the website called the Floridian published these chat. These chats that they were having and really, like, insanely racist. I mean, tons of N word. Tons of like, just really like, talk about violence. I've heard from some. Some black Republicans or I've seen them on Twitter, people who are otherwise very pro Trump, and they're kind of just like shocked by how various white Republicans are reacting to this coming out.

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There's gambling going on in the casino. Yeah, yeah, guys.

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I mean, I saw. I saw a guy named Black. Hannity is kind of his alias. He's sort of a former James o' Keefe Affiliate and someone was saying like lol at this stuff. And this guy was like, you know, if I was a black parent I wouldn't. Or he's like, I am, you know, I'm not thrilled to see people talking about like murdering black children. I mean it's crazy stuff. And this is the sort of the up and comers in the Florida gop. So I think. And again, they're talking about Gooning and Agartha. It's a big mess for them.

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Yeah, I'm just reading a little bit more here. Yeah. Talking about wanting to live in a place without Jews. It's interesting you say that they weren't white nationalists. You don't mean that in the sense that they weren't literally white nationalists. You mean that like it's a lot of Latinos. Cause it's south Florida. Yes.

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I think there are Latinos who maybe espouse white nationalism.

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Yeah, got it. Okay. Hitler's dream. Did you ever see the. There's a pretty good. What's it, what's it called? The Hitler meme. The movie Downfall is a downfall. And in this version of the Downfall spoof, people are telling the leader that his biggest fans in the future are Muslims like Andrew Tate and gay Mexican incels like Nick Fuentes and kind of similar. I do think Hitler would be kind of disappointed. And the people that have taken.

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I think that was after the Miami Hail Hitler thing featuring Clavicular and the gang.

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Yes, exactly. While we're in Florida, just really quick, we should mention the Republican gubernatorial candidate James Fishback, who's losing badly in the polls, except for notably among 18 to 34 year old Republicans. Where he's winning gives you a sense of where things are going in this country. He has been banned from Waffle House. Why was he gooning?

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This is the decline of third spaces in this country. You know, I mean James Fishback, as you said, he doesn't have a lot of money in his campaign and so he's doing things like he went to the some Starbucks at Disney World and he got kicked out there to do these campaign events and then he went on a Waffle House tour. So he was gonna go to every Waffle House in Florida and meet with his legions of groiper fans. This came out because he put out a statement saying sort of regarding my ban from Waffle House, which is never the kind of thing you wanna have to put out as a candidate. He claims he's been criminally trespassed from every wa House. So they said, you know, if you Come back here. It's going to be a crime. I asked Waffle House about this because I suspect James may not be giving us all the details and I haven't heard back yet.

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Well, I wait anxiously for that report. And to our viewers, as soon as we know why James Fishback has been banned from Waffle House, we'll make sure to let you know. We'll keep on that story. All right, I want to go to Candace. We did a video. Folks can go see that if they want. About the first installment of Candace's documentary. The trio did looking into her theory that Erica Kirk and the Mossad and the French legionnaires collaborated together to murder Charlie as part of. Part of a decades long plot of the deep State and foreign deep states, for that matter. Kind of globalist new world order deep state, if you will. So we watched the first video together. Not a lot of, not a lot of evidence, I wouldn't say. You know, there's some interesting, the, you know, interesting data points. Maybe an error on her birth certificate. You know, she once dressed as a bee. That was suspicious. Her parents said they got married in a city, but we don't have any documentation that that marriage happened in that city. And it also happened to be a city where there was a military base. That's suspicious. Great grandmother seemed to be in the gambling game. Something. You wonder if it's a family thing. So that's, that's what we Learned in installment 1. What installment are we on now? I've lost track.

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I believe six episodes have come out and still she hasn't, she hasn't quite proven her case, I would say.

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Okay, we just wanted to pick. Just. I'm going in blind. Unfortunately, I'm busy and so I've not been able to watch installments 2 through 5 of Bride of Charlie. But let's just kind of check in on her. Let's. Let's see where she's at now.

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So Charlie was removed and in his place we got a Shabbat Shaloman. Not so grieving widow. This is the book my Charlie wanted you to read. He just finished it. He loves the Jews. He just finished speaking about how much he loves to Shabbat and to shalom and, and to say daddy's home and to throw down his phone. Barry Weiss. It's just incredible when you think about it all. Turning Point makes people think that it's Charlie's legacy. It's not. They. They should, they should rename the company. They should rename it Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom usa. And that would be a, A better representation of its new leadership.

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Okay, so I guess this is related to. You. Tell me. The fact that Erica was saying that Charlie would say Shabbat Shalom to her at times. Yeah.

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So after the, after the assassination, a couple months later, they came out posthumously with a book he had written about observing the Jewish Shabbat. And so essentially, as you said, Eric, I believe in her Bari Weiss interview talked about how he would come home on a Friday and say, oh, what a crazy week. I'm putting my phone down for a day and sort of practicing the Jewish Shabbat like that. This obviously was kind of shocking to the extremely anti Semitic Candace Owens, who now sees the Charlie Kirk legacy. You know, this attempt to sort of make it more look. Look more pro Jewish. And this is sort of really irritated Candace and you can see what she's referencing there.

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I saw a tweet that I enjoyed about this, which is that Charlie Kirk's legacy is now spinning off into kind of like a sectarian fight between the Shia and the Sunni Tposa followers, where some are lining behind the family legacy and Erica, whereas others are lining behind the popular front and Candace. So that's interesting, at least. There's one other that I've saw on social media. I guess the additional data point here that we have is that Candace thinks that Erica is misrepresenting the degree to which Charlie had an affinity for Israel and the Jewish people and the Jewish faith. Is that a motive for murder?

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I don't know.

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I guess that's up for other people to interpret. Doesn't seem like it to me. But like I said, she's presented some other things. It's not like a. It's not a clear eyed message. I just want to play this one other clip.

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This is again, this is Erica speaking. She says, quote, winslow has so much character. We love stopping here. And then the writer continues. She and her family have come through Winslow many times on their way to basketball games around the state that she plays in. The email we received came from a very credible person. I will leave it at that. I'm going to protect this person's identity. They said that is bs. That is bs. They explained to me something I didn't know. Maybe you did. But in the state of Arizona, 80% of the population lives in Maricopa County. And the person went on to say, I'm very familiar with basketball. I can tell you that at most, because of the way that they structured doing teams and traveling teams. Erica Would at most if she played for all four years of high school, because Winslow is located three hours, three hours outside of Scottsdale, she would have only gone to Winslow two times. So this is just. Her mother is involved in this immediately flagging this as weird. How did she get involved with this hospital elsewhere? She says that she also loves to do charity work abroad. That would imply Erica has already been abroad. Right? She's already been abroad. So was she with Laurie, Did Laurie in her travel to do some stuff with the military? It's a fair assumption, or it's a fair question rather.

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So there you go, Will. In this case, the other piece of evidence that Candace has is that Erica and her mother talked about how on the travel basketball team they went through this town. But Candace has sources that played girls basketball in Arizona, and they say that really, at most it would have went through the town two times. So it's possible that this basketball travel team was a front story for foreign adventurism. It's maybe where Erica was tapped by the French or the Israelis, you know, for this long con against Charlie. What do you think of that idea?

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Well, I'm not so sure about that one. You know, I think this is kind of her explanation for a lot of these discrepancies. You know, whether it's the parents divorce record or something, she kind of leaves it hanging out there. It's like we're creating this missing time period where Erica went to Mossad camp. What happened? If I was the Mossad, if I was the French Foreign Legion, running a decades long scheme, I'm not sure Erica Kirk would have been the person I would recruit to it as a baby. But you know, then that, that's.

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It does also make you wonder, you know, and if the Mossad is as good as everybody says they are and like, you know, look at them like you got, you got to hand it to them, at least judging on military performance. I mean, the pager play against Hezbollah, very deft, you know, a plan that was very successful, decapitating all of the Iranian leaders. And it's like they've broken into the Iranian communication system. Like the Israel military kind of knows where these people are and are able to take them out, given the capabilities that they have. It is kind of interesting that the plan here would have been to, you know, find a woman when she was a young child in a bee costume, recruit her, mold her over decades, have her marry a person that in the future that you didn't even know who your target would be, find, you know, find this person, marry them. Sigh. Have him sire two children with her and then wait for the just the right moment to have her give a tip off to a Mormon boy who comes up from the underground of a university that her in laws have relationships to to shoot him. It's a little complex, you know.

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Well then there's the B cult. It's a lot of moving pieces.

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Yeah, it's a lot of moving pieces. I'm just saying it feels to me like there might have been easier ways for Mossad to do this if Charlie Kirk was what they were going for. One man's opinion. Okay. Will Summer, anything else? What else are you monitoring? Anything else? People to look forward to? Any teasers?

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I mean, I, I think there might be some more fishback coming soon. You know, some more, some more insights there. There's a lot going on, you know, I, as you said, I mean there's no shortage of stuff to write about.

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All right, we appreciate you. So everybody subscribe to the False Flag newsletter@the bulwark.com subscribe to us right here on YouTube. Comment, let us know if you're seeing anything out there. You take tips. You never know. Will Summers, Will Summer is interested in your tips about things that are happening in your community. Do you see any?

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I know, I just got duped by someone who said he, he had a Candace thing for me and I said, all right, send it over. And he said, candace, you know, dick fit in here or whatever, you know,

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he, he, he the right boom, roasted.

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I, I, I know, but you know what? I, I gotta look like a fool sometimes to get the scoop, so I'm happy to do it.

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Comment your scoops. Appreciate you all. We'll see you soon. Bye.

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