Joe and Jada

DaBaby on surviving controversies, putting Charlotte on the map & Joe's robbing the gym story

58 min
Mar 24, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Joe and Jada interview DaBaby about his comeback after controversies, his impact on Charlotte's music scene, and his new album 'Be More Grateful.' The conversation covers resilience in the face of cancellation, the importance of visual storytelling in hip-hop, and personal stories about overcoming adversity and building generational wealth.

Insights
  • Resilience through controversy requires unwavering self-belief and support from respected peers; DaBaby credits mentors like 50 Cent for encouraging him to stay focused despite public backlash
  • Artists who survive cancellation often emerge stronger by refocusing on their craft rather than engaging with noise; DaBaby emphasizes returning to what he does best—making music and performing
  • Visual presentation and directorial control are critical competitive advantages in modern hip-hop; DaBaby's hands-on approach to music videos and stage production differentiates his brand
  • Geographic origin stories matter for artist authenticity; DaBaby positions himself as Charlotte's breakthrough artist who had to 'kick the door down' without established local precedent
  • Generational wealth and financial discipline are essential for long-term success; both hosts emphasize the importance of leaving assets and teaching children financial responsibility
Trends
Post-cancellation comeback narratives becoming standard career arcs for high-profile artistsIncreased artist control over visual content and directorial involvement in music videosGeographic pride and regional representation as key brand positioning for emerging artistsEmphasis on live performance and in-person connection as irreplaceable value in digital ageFinancial literacy and generational wealth-building as critical topics in hip-hop discourseRacial discrimination in hospitality and service industries affecting high-profile individualsStudio process evolution: artists seeking minimal production interference and beat-driven creativityHook-writing and melodic composition as underrated skills separating hit-makers from rappersMentorship from established figures as crucial support system during public controversiesAlbum rollout strategy emphasizing organic hit development over forced promotion
Topics
Surviving Public Controversies and CancellationArtist Resilience and Mental Health in Hip-HopMusic Video Direction and Visual StorytellingRegional Pride and Geographic Artist BrandingLive Performance and Tour StrategyStudio Production Process and Beat SelectionHook Writing and Song StructureGenerational Wealth Building and Financial PlanningMentorship in Hip-Hop IndustryRacial Discrimination in Service IndustriesAlbum Rollout and Release StrategyArtist Independence and Creative ControlFatherhood and Family PrioritiesCooking and Culinary SkillsDiabetes Management and Health Discipline
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People
DaBaby
Guest discussing his comeback, new album 'Be More Grateful', and journey overcoming controversies
Joe
Co-host of the podcast, shares personal stories about gym robberies and financial lessons
Jada
Co-host of the podcast, engages in conversation about DaBaby's career and personal experiences
50 Cent
Mentor figure who encouraged DaBaby to stay focused on rapping during controversy period
J. Cole
North Carolina artist from Fayetteville credited with putting Charlotte on the map musically
Remy Ma
Collaborator on 'All the Way Up' hit record; featured on DaBaby's new album
Trick Daddy
Mentioned as accomplished cook in hip-hop community
Heavy D
Referenced for his success and luxury lifestyle in the music industry
Missy Elliott
Producer collaboration example; Joe discusses securing beats originally intended for her
Jay-Z
Referenced as artist receiving premium beat selections from top producers
Quotes
"There's not many of us left. We got to hold each other now."
JoeEarly in episode
"Back stronger than ever though. Back stronger than ever."
DaBabyDiscussing comeback after controversy
"Shit, it feel like I was supposed to feel. I mean, I ain't forgot how to do nothing. The difference in it is like I'm back just having fun with this shit."
DaBabyOn current success with new album
"You can't throw that shit on them. It's certain people. You can't... God's a real God. You know he ain't a rat."
JoeOn DaBaby being uncancelable
"I don't need nothing but the music and microphone for real. I want it outside the booth. I want to sit down."
DaBabyDescribing studio process preferences
Full Transcript
Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring Podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, what up y'all? This is Joe Crack the Don. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show, legend, every show, iconic. Not iconic. You know what I mean? Today is, I'm not having the best of days, but I think we're going to finish up strong. That's what I mean. That's right. When you're thinking today's guests, you think of bars. You think of headstones. You think of stadium shakers. You think of controversy. Think of somebody able to overcome controversy. Get back to the back. You think of a great father. You know what I mean? Let's never leave that out, because they always tend to leave that out. You think of a great father. You think of a great cook, a great chef. Get busy in the kitchen. You think of somebody you probably would have never thought of as skills behind the camera to direct and create visuals that he wants to bring to life. It's going to make him a jack of all trades. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for my brother, the baby. That's the introduction of the sense from the moment. I appreciate it. It's a pleasure to be here. If you watch the show, he don't give everybody the type. That was a rollout. That was an extended clip. That's what he deserves. You know what I mean? There's not many of us left. We got to hold each other now. You know I was with you and I had just left you in the airport and I bumped into the guy. What's the guy? He was jerking off on the plane. What's my plane? Fender. Throw what? Throw what? It was the same day in the airport. I left you out of my brother's safe. You saw me in that flight? Jesus Christ, I got a confirmation. On the way out, we was on the same flight. You was on the same flight? No, not the one. I was in the airport. I said, what's up to you? Yo, what's up? My brother's safe flight. Overseas with someone. I think Dubai is somebody I don't know. But I bumped into him. Fender, Fender, Fender. And the next thing I get home, I see him on the news. Jerk Yandin went on watch. Fender, Fender, Fender. Fender, Fender. Yo, we never going to leave him. Are you ever going to let him live that the hell, man? Leave him alone, man. He got caught in the moment, man. You got caught in the moment. You got to let him live. You got to leave him alone. Sooner or later, you got to give him a... Yo, you got to give him a break. That's the last one. I'm not going to... Try and get back on the right path. He dropped a nice record. He dropped a nice record recently, too. So I got nothing but love for him. The baby... The baby up in here, you know me, I always say he's uncancelable. He's almost like Dave Chappelle. When they say he cancer, I'm like, hell. You know what? It's certain people... You can't throw that shit on them. It's certain people. You can't... God's a real God. You know he ain't a rat. You could try to call him a rat, but don't nobody really believe it. Guys, you throw certain dirt at them. A guy like me looking me like, nah. That shit ain't real. And so when... they want you to fall to the noise, to the cancer and all that. So you in there, I watched it live. So me and my daughter was watching on the thing and I seen it and I didn't know it was going to be as big as it was. But it turned into... Did you know it was going to be that big when you... Nah, absolutely not. Caught left field, you know what I'm saying? Big time, though. That's the tsunami. That's like you on the beach. And the tsunami shit come. That shit has no intention. And I don't really like swimming in the ocean. I'm crabby-ass for my life jacket. You can get on the boat and shit. But definitely, you know, caught a nigga left field. But you know shit happens. Back stronger than ever though. Back stronger than ever. I heard you say that 50 Cent encouraged you to stay rapping and stay focused. You was another nigga too. You ain't never shy away from like, you know, just recognizing like, you know, just the shit a nigga stood for and just affected. On the other show you had going on at the time. But it was a clip. I'm going to have to hollet you because I wanted to put that in my documentary. So we're going to need to be a... Whatever I did, you got it. You said I was ready for war. We had that one. So yeah, nah, it was niggas like y'all, you know. I always got love from the OGs, the niggas that I, you know what I'm saying? My, you know what I'm saying? Growing up in... And niggas that everybody I looked up to and fucked with as a youngin', all the niggas fucked with me. You know what happened to me is when I got in the rap game, I left the shoot to know. And by hook or by crook, I was determined to make it in this business. Like I was just like, yo, there's no... There's nothing else for me. You know? And so I don't know your situation, but when you was going through it, when I would talk to you, I'm just letting you know, like, yo, fuck what they saying. You talented, get back on that bike and fuck all that. Like keep going and then you catch one and then, you know, shit'll get better. And right now you got the biggest shit out there right now. What that feel like? All right, what that feel like when they telling you... I'm not going crazy. They telling you it's over and now, I know you don't feel... You know, you had a couple of joints after that that popped off. But this one, this is smokers. What does that feel like? Shit, it feel like I was supposed to feel. I mean, I ain't forgot how to do nothing. You know what I'm saying? The end of the day, if anything, they'll just, you know... I ain't got the difference. The difference in it is like I'm back just, you know, having fun with this shit. And I ain't looking for nothing in particular. And that's when this shit just, it's going to go high, go with me regardless. You know what I'm saying? So it feel good to be, you know, to have motherfuckers favorite, their favorite song, all the shit everybody on. Yeah, that's what I'm supposed to do. Nah, that bitch pop. Popping down. That shit came, that shit was the smoker on script. One listen, they sent it to me. I was like, oh no, this shit addict. I know what it was. I knew it was going to be good though from the journey. Your journey, you know what I mean? Whenever you, whenever you got, whenever you nice is inevitable for your number to play. But in this particular game, for some reason, whenever, whenever you, your first attempt at like, you know, I'm one of them and they give you a little pushback, you always get the fucking laugh last in there. Nah, for sure, for sure. For sure. I respect you for that. Some dudes break after this. A couple doors closed on them. Yeah, yeah, get like that. They go, they go find another. Straight up. They switch majors. Straight up. For sure. Stuck it out. And it all, I love you because you ain't never been pussied. Let me tell you something. That's the whole nothing. That's the whole, we don't want nothing. That's the whole nothing. Yeah, I'll rate this on that. You know what I'm saying? The baby ain't pussied, man. Let me get over here and get out of that. I know when to get saying about Duke. I know when to get out of that. Charlotte, North Carolina, what did you have out there to inspire you? Yeah. Were there ever artists that came from Charlotte? I know P.D. Pablo. He ain't pussied. He ain't from Charlotte, but he's from North Carolina. No, I've been, I've been, I got down with P.D. Pablo. He's a physical form. Me and him against 2032. He's an artist. He did North Carolina right. That's what it is. So P.D. Pablo, who else? About it. J. Cole from there. Oh, J. Cole? That's a big deal. Yeah, but sure, he from Fayetteville. Fayetteville, North Carolina. He got Charlotte pretty much on this back. He got... That's the 100%. Literally. I didn't give a fuck. I was in North Carolina. Yeah. So at the height of the hate for you, you're fucking town. The radio, they stood by you to a billion percent. I was in North Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah. And I'm listening to the radio and they acting like, ain't no cancel here. We playing this motherfucker, this motherfucker, the baby. So you're town. How do you feel with your town? Shit, I mean, I'm still there. I ain't waiting no where, but you know, when it come to Charlotte, like, it wasn't no examples for sure of like, I was the first nigga to... He's setting shit. Yeah, setting the ball. You know what I'm saying? The first nigga, you know what I mean? We got a couple niggas right there at that threshold right now. Like, Fayetteville, I feel like Fayetteville is my nigga. Sit out to him. But other than that, like, in the head of me, like, I really had to kick the door down, you know what I mean? So that's what happened to me, the condition to be able to never get through whatever in the industry, because it ain't that sweet, you know what I'm saying? It's Charlotte. Like, if you get up out of there, you get up out of there, you can get down. You can go anywhere. Let me tell you something. Every time I go to Charlotte Highway, I feel like still in the trees. Y'all niggas don't got no trees. Yeah, we ain't got no trees. Y'all got these fucking cherry blossoms and all of the highway, got the trees. I be like, yo, I should come down here with a U-Haul, steal all these shits and bring them back to my backyard. They got the expensive trees on the highway with all the colors and all that shit. Shout out to Greensboro. Yeah. Every year, I go out to Greensboro in the summer to Soul Food Joint. You know the Soul Food Joint out there, right? Nah. They give you Pepto Bismo with the food, man. Yeah, you got the soul food. They know they about to fuck you up. Pepto Bismos understand. You walk in, they got Pepto Bismo understand. You know you're going to go to the toilet later on, fucking with that type shit. Yeah, but so good over there, man. You know, I went to, uh, this, this, this, so my experience in North Carolina is too North Carolina. Yeah. People, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to tell you right now. In North Carolina, they are the nicest, sweetest people in the world, and racism is real. So I go one day to roof Chris, because you always want me to fucking step on shit. You were in the south. Greensboro, I went to roof Chris, and I was dressed up like this, and they was letting white people in with tank tops and fucking slippers on there. It was like, yo, you don't meet the dress code. I said, what? It was like you in there. And I had some G-von cheese shit on some flash. I'm like, huh? They was like, not the dress code. Now, the racism, you know, I get racism every, I told you they told me the other day that, uh, the prisoners over here, I get racism all the time. I just handle it, keep it moan. But my driving, he took so offense, he started screaming on them crazy. So when I get back in the car, he said, I should have told you, let me take you to the soulful joint, where they want to see you. These people full of shit here, they racist, this, this, that. He told me to the soulful. Every year I've been going back to that soulful, Friday, Saturday, and something like, I've been going there, you know what I'm saying? And I'm not a sewer, you know what I mean? I could have sued. Yo, I'm not a sewer. I could have sued the airport. He told me I said, Ben Crumpin one second, right up my fucking cup. I was last week, I'm in the airport, the dude, where we was at? Phoenix. Phoenix, the dude was like, prisoners over there. I had my security with me, he was like, huh? He's like, prisoners on that line. I guess that's, I told him, yo, what you doing? Prisoners over there. And then he doubled down on, I said prisoners over there. They could look like Bundy or one of them dudes. Like Al Bundy or some shit. I would have made him get me the whole airplane. He said I should have been Elizabeth. Elizabeth. A lady came, he went and came and she was like, yo, I hear you had an incident, this and this, I was like, now I'm good. She was like, you sure? He said, that's what, I think it was K said you should have said, well, well my trauma's coming back. She started crying. Yo, this shit out of control. I just gonna work for mines, man. This shit, yo, how hard is it navigating? Cause this is your prime, this is your era, this is your age group, this is your time. How is it just waking up, looking at social media every day? Like nothing to do with you. Just looking at all the crazy shit going, yo, this shit is crazy, kids. I think I'm gonna start smoking weed or something. I'm learning, I gotta smoke weed. Now I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I don't want nobody getting mad at me. I'm gonna start smoking weed. At least gummies is some shit I can't take it. Mom fuckers on the Instagram. Do y'all see what I see? Yeah, it's wild. I don't know, you got a different, you got a different algorithm. That's what it is. So, you know, I don't act my age. You know, I'm one of the fly so jeans, the scene in the fucking universe. You know what I'm saying? I walk up, it's almost like I think I'm 28. And one day I put up that yo Chris, one day I threw on that Instagram. One day, my algorithm, the young fly shit, I threw it up and they were like, titty-titty, titty-titty, titty-titty. They was just breakdancing. The next one was hip and graffiti. The next one was singing to the hip. They was like, basically my Instagram, the algorithm was like, yo, act your age, nigga. This is where you was. I was like, no. I thought I was in the nightmare on that piss. I started liking all the young shit. Like, yo, get back. I can't do that shit. Yo. How important are visuals for you? Because you might have took the new busted slot of your videos of you taking it there on the video. I mean, when it come to me like, and this shit to be going on in my head, bro, video is important. Like, I really didn't train my audience to like... Expect some shit. Confid me. So that's the thing, with the song, I got going crazy right now. It went up through there without the video. Normally, I come with the video off the rip. Same time. And it got done through there. So when that bitch took off before the video, even came, I already knew what time it was. I just had to make sure the video, you know what I'm saying? Met the standards of what motherfuckers expect. But them shit's super important, bro. To answer your question, like, I got to paint that picture. You know what I mean? That's why I'm so hands-on with this shit, too. Because it ain't too many motherfuckers that can, you know what I'm saying? Paint my picture better than me. So, yeah, that's what got a nigga. Yeah. The head first until I directed it and all that shit. Them stages, too. I see you love, you love, you love touching them stages. Yeah, performing was, was, better than always, been like one of my favorite parts of this shit. That, doing the videos and shit, being hands-on in the videos, performing. They're my favorite parts of this shit. They're all that other shit. It's too, it's too much. You know what I'm saying? It ain't, it's too much to, you know what I mean? To figure out what the rest of this shit I got that shit figured out. That's the shit you can't fabricate. Like, I'm right here in front of you, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, anything I'm saying, anything I'm doing, you know, live performance, that shit, that's it. The live show killer. So I'm ready to get out here on this tour. You know what I mean? I go on tour next week. Yeah? Yeah, get back in front of my people. You with somebody else, or? I got Zeddy Will on there. Zeddy Will, new artist's head band. Oh, that's fire. Yeah, a younger girl. She from the DMV area. So, you know, I definitely, I wanted to snatch up the younger people, the upcoming people. That's why I wanted to go out with you, you know what I'm saying? And let them turn up, you know what I mean? So it's going to be one big ass party. That's right. When it start next week? Yeah, first stop Houston. First stop Houston. That's right, y'all get your tickets. That record in Houston. Right on time. Spring break still. Right on time. You're going to be crazy. Right on time. Houston, let me tell you something, man. I was in Houston this club one day. Houston gets in trouble, Joe. And this girl, I see the kingdom. I see the kingdom. I see the kingdom. Houston, I went to a strip club. This girl ran up on me. She had to rock this big on a shit. This one, Scott Stortz was the man. She was like, look, your man bought me this ring. I said, my man, I want to rob the bitch. I'm like, yo, he bought you what? She's like, yeah, your man, me and him, we engaged. She shaking her ass into you shit. I'm looking like, y'all like, man. Let me tell you something, Houston, I'll make you lose your mind, man. Shout out to Houston, man, and everybody out there. I used to go to Houston all the time back in the day. Like back in the West love there. I used to just hang out there. I used to hang out there with a bunch of Mexicans in Houston. And they would turn the dine into the strip club. Like it was not legal. Whatever they were doing with that, they were coming this fucking store and turning that bitch into a strip club. Like, but Barber shop, they, they just. They closer crazy though. Nah, they had the strip club anywhere out there. They closer crazy. I feel what Houston. Yeah. 23 tracks on this album. 23 home. Well, man, you had a lot to say. It had been a minute. Yeah, it had been a minute, you know, and not only that, like I wanted to, I wanted to check every box. I wanted to get into the lyrical shit. I wanted to do some a la, you know what I'm saying? Definitely had to get, had to get back in tune with my, with my ladies, with the lady audience, you know what I'm saying? So I had to, I had to do them right. I had to got them demonstrate, you know, the lyricism and shit. I had to put bars on there. And I had to put the hits on there. And I just had to have that raw energy to turn up shit. So I wanted to make sure I checked every box on this motherfucker. I ain't leaving nothing off. And then the song is going crazy right now. That's the last one I did. I did that one right before. That's it. I got all the mother shit to check. I need that one. Man with the deuces sent me to beat. I'm like, yeah, that's her. That's her. That's all she wrote. Tell you something. I need you on the song. I got to play you after this. I can't wait. Come on with it. I need that pain, you know what I'm saying? All the time I heard this shit, that's a game. I need the baby on this shit. Second burst. I can't wait. Run it. What's your process in the studio? What should necessity be to essentially? I don't need nothing but the music and microphone for real. I want it outside the booth. I want it outside the booth right there. I want to sit down. I ain't trying to stand up. And that's it. It's just play the music. Don't catch me off the rip. A nigga come in. Shit, a producer come in. I'm not one of the niggas that let a nigga play some shit. You know what I'm saying? Play another one. Play another one. Play another one. Play another one. Because I'ma know off the rip. Catch me as low as I can. The music talk to you. No, 100%. I let the music down. Talk to me. I tell you you happy, you sad, you dissed you. Yeah, 100%. It's going to bring out what it bring out. I'm saying I do me. I give him a little more courtesy. Like I listen to the beat even though I'm not sure. I'll be like, then I'll be like, I don't want that. But you know I got one of them ears. Well, you can't bullshit me. Just one of them. Yeah, I got. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you one thing. I got one of the greatest ears in hip hop history. Come on out. I know how to hear a beat. I know how to hear a hit. I know how to do it. I just know how to do it. And so I'll list. You can't fake me out. But guys used to come to my studio. This is real talk. Yeah. So back in the days, the way it was, I don't know. Rough riders, y'all definitely had this, right? So when Terrah Squad, Pawn, everything, the number one producers would stand online. Like Alchemist said, they're coming there and play us five, ten, so this is the number one guys. They leave the next number one guy. It was like, and they come up in there and they play some good beats. But it was close, but no gone. I'd be like, y'all, let me ask you something. I'd be like, well, I said, what you got for Jay-Z? Oh, that's a different style. Right, right, right. That's over here in my y'all, in my debt. Can you play me that? They'll play some shit out of this world. I'd be like, y'all, I need that fucking beat. You know what I'm saying? Like Remi's Conceded, that was Missy's beat. I had to put crazy pressure on Scott. So I'm like, y'all, I need that for Remi. And he was like, yo, but Missy, I think she cut vocal store at this. I was like, yo, I'm sorry to say, Scott, we need you to start right here. Shit didn't play that for me, man. That's shit too crazy. And then Remi did, she did everything from the hell. Like Conceded, everything. But the beat, Scott Storz played that shit for Jay-Z. I was like, I'm sorry, I need that for Remi. That shit is crazy. And so that's how I go. Like you knew this last joint, you knew that was a hit. For sure, for sure. Who's that in back? Who's the doosling? Scott Storz. I think it's Storz. I thought I was scared to write to that shit for like a whole month. That's like knocking the beat. This shit is so knocking, I was scared to write. I was driving around. I'm driving around town, just listening to the instrumental through the whole New York. No, the problem I had was a problem that most artists get. When you get a hit record, you think that's your lane. So my only hit record before that that was really a hit was what's love. So I'm listening to Lean Back, even though this shit is dumb hardcore. And I keep thinking, I'ma flip it for girls. I'ma flip it for girls. I mean, then one night, I remember, I never forget, I was in 42nd Street, the West Side Highway, whatever that is. And man, I just said, fuck it, I'm going straight on this bitch. I'm going hardcore. And it was the best decision I've made in my life. You could imagine, I was trying to turn Lean Back into a what's love, baby. I love you. This is that, yo, that's what it was going to be. I was fighting that shit, fighting the power, because the only hit I had that went number one was what's love. So I'm thinking, yo, they want me to make girl songs, but the beat was too knocking. And then thank God, I never forget. I was just like, all right, fuck it, I'm going hard, body on it. And the hook was like, you know, the hook, a lot of artists can't make a hook. That's another, yo, there's layers to making hit records and all that. Like a lot of artists, they can be the number one rappers. They can't make a hook. So I take pride in, you know, in my crew, D-I-T-C, every time we work together, I'll be like, yo, let me do the hook. Like I like, like Method Man, right? They use Method Man a lot, booting. For them hooks. And I would be like, yo, I'm like the Method Man of the crew. I'm going to make a hook. Don't worry, I'm going to do it. And so, you know, but I've noticed by working with so many different artists that that's probably the hardest shit to do is make a hook on just a hit. And you know, that lean back came like that. That hook came like water. Can I tell you my friends at Hard Rock Bet, my wife looks at me the other night and she goes, why are you rooting so hard for Arkansas? You would have thought that Coach Cow was my dad, I said. 50 to 1. I got the Razorbacks to make a freaking run. Duke, bring it on, baby. Today, she's like, why are you rooting so hard for the Johnny's? 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Getting back on their ass, solidifying this shit for the next generation coming up under me in the kitchen. How you doing, Hattie? I ain't know you good cook. I thought the number one cook in him, Papa, is Trick Daddy. I fuck with you, Trick. I fuck with you. Hold up. I've eaten Trick Daddy's food. Trick Daddy, I fuck with you. So what you saying? You one of the cook? Man, I still have him cook. What is he saying? Yo, that's a great idea. You ever went to Cook Tote? We can line it up. No, I haven't. We can line it up. The Cook Tote. OG, I fuck with you, but there's no knife. No knife different. That's his name in the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, no knife. Yo, what's wrong with you? Yeah, Jada, no knife. Fuck with you. I'm not talking about what he's doing. Yo, I can't cook Tote. No knife. There ain't no knife, man. Can't cook Tote. You from New York? I can't cook toast. It's all good. You don't even have to cook Tote for one thing. I can't even cook Tote. I can't cook Tote. If I did toast, I would fuck it up. Damn, Joe. I ain't got a bad toasting. I'll tell you one thing. The other night, I went out with my daughter and she be cooking all the time. And she get busy. But I said, mommy, make me something. And you know, I don't eat carbs no more. She went and made me scramble eggs. Shit, like 11 o'clock. They wasn't like my scramble eggs. Yo, shit. She said, I did it healthy. I said, no, if I make scramble eggs, it's going to be a mountain of butter on that bitch. Cheese, heavy cholesterol on the scramble eggs. How you like your scramble eggs? Not with all the... Oh, no, my shit is a scramble egg soup with butter. My shit is a scramble egg soup. Hell, nah. Nah, you like... You got to check it. Yo, I know he doesn't. I go crazy. No trick, daddy. Nice, man. Yeah, a trick. I fuck with you. You know, my man Cool from Cool & Drake, dad. Nice, too. It got to be some chef. None of them niggas. I fuck with all y'all. No, you think you better than trick? I'm not trying to start no shit. Yo, trick. Oh, gee. Look. This ain't got nothing to do with you. This ain't got nothing to do with you. I don't fuck around. They niggas, no knife, you different. You can go whatever route you want to go. What's your favorite dish to make? All of them. All of them, Joe. I be sick. You know what? I just ate... Ask me the last thing, the very last thing I made. The last thing you made? Jerk lamb chops. Stuff salmon. Stuff with... You a culler, niggas. Crab, spinach, cream cheese. You got Danny DeVito loving that shit. He looking like Benzy. Come on, fucking look like Farrah Forrest's brother. You see that hair? With garlic butter breast. Garlic butter breast brioche rolls. I go crazy. Garlic butter breast. Butter breast. Go with it. Keto free. I haven't been eating no carbs. No rice, no potato, no pasta. No bread. You could just... Yeah, you just don't eat the bread. You know what I mean? Getty squash. No, see, I don't... Squash. So, Mom, I'm trying to live with... Yeah. Seafood, lobster scallop. This shit is fucking incredible. I ate that shit. I can't. I gotta eat. He even makes the most... He just had a glizzy, a NASCAR. That's a different extent. Ain't no keto part. Ain't no glizzy. You see how I look? I'm gonna adopt it tomorrow. You looking good. I'm definitely like about... You're 32, 28 or something. Ooh, if you come back 228, we're gonna get steak and lobster steak. I'm gonna put the 12 back. I'm gonna put the 12 back. You don't want... You fat, man. You fat. Joe's the third age. I've been diabetic since I'm 14. Yeah. They got the shit, a patch. Now, I'm real disciplined in everything in life. I'm really disciplined. I was always scared to get the patch because the patch would tell you if your sugar high or low because I knew I'm fucked. Once I get this, I'm not gonna cheat. If I didn't have the patch, I would sit down with you and eat the garlic brand. Fuck it up. Who gives a fuck? But being there, I got the patch. The patch go, bim, bim, bim, bim, bim. Like that's gonna let you know your wallet. Like everybody can hear it. Yeah. It's kind of like... It's kind of like play yourself. It's almost like handicapped. The phone give you a little... Let you know your sugar high. You wild out. I'll tell you the Jamaican shit. I ate the Jamaican spot in Miami. And I ate no carbs. That's what they cook. I ate all... Nah, nah, nah. It's a real deal. It's Oxtail. I ate Oxtail. I ate, uh, not collard greens. Who gives a fuck? My shit went sky high. With no rice, no potato, no bread, no nuts. Cala luke? Huh? Yeah, that's what it's called. Fuck me up. So you know you gotta think about it. You gotta think about it. When you go outside to a restaurant and eat this way, it's the cheap. I'll just tell you I'll eat. I make a mean scrambles with some extra butter or butter or butter or... You need extra butter. But let me explain. What they do when you go to the pizza shop and you say this shit good, they sprinkle sugar on that sauce. People cheat. When you go to these restaurants, they cheat for that extra... They're not doing what you're doing. You making it not... Restaurants cheat. Like, they throw extra shit on it that we addicted to that we'll love. Say you ever been to a pizza shop where the pizza is incredible but it's sweet. Nah, hell nah. I'll tell you. Well, the Jamaican spot, I've been eating keto. Just so you could understand. For three months the alarm ain't go off. For three months the alarm ain't go off. I ain't stocked. Stakes, lobsters, all type of shit. Yeah, stocks. You know you go to U-Sins... Stocks like shit. No, no, no, no. You go to U-Sins, you get your little fucking shit. Hawaiian red box. The state you eat the little spinach stick. Get out of here. Good, no sugar. They kick me out of here. That shit, let me out. They put light and kick me out of here. Houston's another racist West Lamar. They sat me down. They racist. They said, I smell like manwana. Listen, if you ain't got the hair like him, tell these survivors. I wish I would walk around and block. Get in the fuck out of here. You smoking in front of them? Yeah. No, I know you a superstar, but you can't block trees in front of you. I didn't blow. I wanted... It was 2-0-0. I didn't smoke. I didn't blow. I didn't smoke. I didn't blow. You know it's red when I catch him. But I used to have like... Got him. You know, Houston's what they did to me. I went in Atlanta. I don't eat that. Boy, God damn it. Nah, I went to Atlanta and they fronted on me. And they was looking at what's craziest. It was the black people working here. It was fun on me. Damn. No, I'm telling you the truth. It was the craziest shit. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, huh? And they're like, oh, well, you know, no reservations, no distance. They keep better than everybody. Man, they got... They did the... They did the black cop, black cop, black cop, black cop. I'm killing all your men. I couldn't believe it. Then this guy runs from the thing that... the manager. Hey, Joe, why you white dude? No, you from Miami. Come inside. How many of you are? Four or five? I'm like, yo, what kind of shit is this? Reverse racist. Reverse. What's crazy is I sat down and everybody was like, yo, this is what I went around... Because you know some shit happened to me, I talk a lot. So I started telling everybody. Every way I go, yo, you sensitive. They be like, yo, we don't fuck with it. We know what it is. That shit like that all the time. Apparently it's like that. I ain't going back. I'm good off that shit. You not going back to the spinach dip? No. Or the shrimp cocktail? I got an STK. I'll tell you some crazy shit. I used to go to this Italian restaurant on South Beach. It was the best Italian restaurant on South Beach. This nigga was dead. Nice. It was incredible. I put J. Loant. I put people. It was quiet. No, no, listen to what I'm saying. I'm talking about Italian restaurants. Yeah, they got the carbs. I'm talking about back in the day, but let me tell you. You're going to end up back in the day. One day I took my man and I'm going to say his name. I took my man's stand. You know what's stand for my inch? Yeah, that's my nigga. So stand, I take him in there. We eat whatever the owner says how this snack. Stand goes back. And they did some racist shit to him. They didn't let him in. They skipped and everybody in. You know what's going on, right? So stand comes back. He says, yo, you know your restaurant over there, man. They handled me wrong. They did me. I said, I'll never step foot in that bitch again. Fuck that place about a month later. I couldn't help it. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I went back. I didn't stand wrong. Yo, I couldn't hold my end of the bargain. I'm pointing this family. Kids. It's the most important thing. I see you've got your son here with you. You know what I'm saying? But that's my favorite thing to do. Be my kids, father. Hold it down for my message and my nephew. And then my kids, they turned. Man, they... Yeah, they did that. I ain't fucking with them. They know who you is? They know. Imagine all the machines. Remy's daughter went to 10,000 arenas with us and didn't know who he was. Even though he was performing. They don't know they little kids. They don't know the difference. I think it finally kicked in. She be like, tell them Remy like, that's a song. She could hit me with a video one day later. She had no fucking clue. She's on stage with us. Bringing her out. They know who you is. I'm forwarded baby. I'm rapping a word. rapping, you fucking round of things. How about your parents? Yeah, Mom Dukes. My pops passed, 2019 Mom Dukes though. She living it up. She got a man, she's poor. She got a man shing you is about to say that. She's poor then I'm off. I just bought 40 acres. So I'm about to- Oh! There's some noise for that. That's Jewish shit. 40 acres. Listen, if we buy a crack house here, it's five million. This shit ain't no town cons out here. I don't give a fuck who you- I don't know, nobody with no acres in New York. No, ain't nobody got no acres in New York. It's smoke if it acres up here. Fucking crack houses. A crack house out here, trap house. Of course you million dollars, you can't get shit out of here. They be like, we think you blew up, you got a one in one. You know, one barrel, one bath. We like that, we're living a life. Yeah, even the hotel rooms, them bitches be about. Gets more, right? 10 square feet, them bitches be. But in North Carolina, you can get acres, right? I walked in that bitch, tripped over the bed. Yeah, he was right in front the door. I was like, I keep boasting. And if you want some room, and if you want some room, you got the fucking bag out. Yeah, you go, man, you 2700 bucks. You might be the biggest flex. You walk in somebody's hotel room in New York, and they got a little room. And they suitcase can fit on the floor. That right there, you can open it up. And they shit, you can open it up or whatever, that shit. Man, he motherfucker, you know you pay it. If you got some room. You have to tie my clothes out the suitcase. Remember shout out the heavy D recipe. So I went to see him one time in the hotel. He asked big shit. He had the penthouse. You know, over the fucking, fucking sent you pause. No, no, no, no. You always been my item, you know what I'm saying? I walked up in the head of the big room. And the man had the big shit. The park hotel. The park shit. It was over sent you pause. I don't even want to sit. The Trump hotel. What? Back in the days, what the shit he had the shit overlooking the whole sent you pause. And I was just sitting there and was like, damn, that ain't heavy D. Heavy D living a life. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm about living a life. You know life too short. No, I'm telling you. No, I'm not so bad. I do know that. I went to a funeral the other day. I went to a funeral the other day, shot out the power for Wu-Tang. I pulled up and it made me realize, I mean, I lost my mom, my father. I don't want to make this depressing. I lost my mom, my father, my brother same year last year. I've been through some shit. I've never been in a funeral and made me realize like, yo, life is short, like powers. I'm sitting there, seeing all the guys I came in the industry with. Everybody looking old, kids, everybody looking old. Like everybody I came in the game with. I'm sitting there and I'm looking and they like, yo, you know, once you get diagnosed, this, it just made me realize like this shit could be super over. So we might as well just blow the bag faster. And just finish it. Just finish it. Just have your fun, finish it. Make sure the kids good. They got 40 acres. Pay that bitch off if you could. They'll have, yo, my thing is this, yo, if we leave you some shit, we ain't get shit. We in the south ground, the projects across the street. We didn't have shit. We give you something. You gotta do something like that. Perhaps something for the nose. You gotta make that. No, no, I'm just saying like, now it's on you. Yo, I tell my family all the time. I tell them all the time. Yo, if something happens to me, they're gonna give you some money. It's a fact. They're gonna give you some money. If you blow that shit like Fat Joe still here right now, that's on you. If you wanna be the laughing stock, like, yo, Fat Joe died, we gotta sell a mansion. We gotta go in the flyest townhouse ever, million dollar townhouse. We don't need no shit, 10 million. With you, you're not performing. You're not doing none of that shit. Yeah, you can't make no money. Fat Joe could go on a weekend, you were going on a weekend, you were going on a weekend, come back with the bag, yo, we good. Fat Joe not in them. So there's no reason for you to be sitting in a 10 million dollar mansion. Downgrade to something like shit. Tell that bitch, get your PC off that too, besides the money you got down side. That's nice. The flyest townhouse you ever seen. Get an elevator, get Marvel all over it. Get an elevator. But it's a million dollars. Yeah. You gotta start like. It's an elevator, man, but that's the townhouse. No, sound phenomenal. Yeah. Because guess what? Nobody gave me a croissant. Come on now. Mom, fuck it, give me something. I heard about when you robbed that whole gym, nigga. I did, though. I did the baby. That's why I like you, because you're a real white. You know what I mean? You said, Joe, the whole gym. And they helped me with the Walkmans in the jacket. Yeah. Tell you something. I stuck up this kid one time. That was around here. Come on, don't get him started. I'm gonna get him started. Right around here. Let me tell you something. I'll tell you a funny story. Your kiss, you stop me if I said it, be safe. I'm not gonna stop you. So I'm robbing everybody. Right? It's a different hobby. I don't know what you're saying. I don't trust nobody. When I go home, I go different ways. When I just listen to that, I do everything because I know I robbed everything. I know what this is. From every level to this day, it's going to be very hard for you to rob me to this day, because I've seen everything coming. I've been on the other side of the... You got to be AI some shit to get me, right? So I go like this. I said, I'm robbing everybody, but I can't even fit the stuff. There's no fly fat. No, you're not understanding. I'm sticking people up just for the sport. He's just sticking that rob shit and getting tailored. Rob, there he's body. What's it no tailored? It was very hard. One of my wife's biggest jokes is Fat Nigger with the discus teacher. There was nothing fly for Fat Niggers. There was no gear. It just didn't exist. So I would rob guys and then give it to my man. They were skinny. My man Stacy from across the street, he doing it. He caught three bodies right across the street. He been up there for hours. Cops beat him up so many times, he got still in his chest. I'm not bullshitting you. My man told Montana, so I was sticking Nigger up and giving it to my man because I can't even fit the shit. One day a fat dude walks in his school. He got that small click, surely. Got to have it. That shit is immediate. Like yo, my man, yo, my man. Come up off the shit now. At the school? In this one hot second, it was his first day in school. Now yo, my man run that. In the hallway, in the club. Nothing to talk about. Yo, my nigga come up off the shit now. Now. I throw this shit on, but check this out. I always tell a story. It call me the best story teller. That's only part of it. I'm on that. I go back to the block. I got the choke. Miss Shirley, I'm telling you, I was a bum. Right? I got the choke. I finally stole something from me. Yeah. I'm upstairs. I heard a car go, urgh. I heard another one go, urgh. Another one go, urgh. Another one go, urgh. I turned to urgh. My man, OP Mega Charm, come out the car. I guess I'm upstairs. Yo, Joe. I look out the window. It's about a honey-grown men gang's nigga. Niggas ran his shit. Oh, he was somebody. His brother was the biggest nigga in the universe. So OP caused me. OP must have been like, I know him. Chill, please. This, he's a kid. This, this. Joe. Yo, what up, OP? From out the window and shit. Yeah, from the projects. Yo, come down. Yo, and bring the Shirley. The one victory I ever had, I come down with the Shirley. You handed that one for gold. What? What was that? Niggas was like, yo. He said, that's my little brother. He was a drug dealer from out here, the biggest. He said, yo, he got killed too. But he said, this my brother from now on, you make sure he's good. I said, no problem. His brother will walk past me with a little smirk in the school and all that. Like, this nigga know what time it is. Like, he know what it is. But you know, it's the one time I had with something that fit me. That's fucked up. I couldn't get it off. He had an hour with the brand, with the chocolate, Cheryl. Good hour. Hey there. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The fucked up shit in life is when you go through the struggle. And you're like, why me? Why God? Why I got to go through this? And shit is fucked up. Another niggas is flying. They parents could get them shit, this and this and that. And then once you get it, you realize that the journey was worth everything. 100% the niggas used to be spoiled in high school. Them niggas. Oh, they finished. But that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is, it's like you appreciated so much. You know what I mean? That's what I meant by when I asked you, how does it feel to have a hit right now after all the shit you went through? You could sit back and look. You know, me, they took all my money. They took all my money. I went to jail for taxes. They took millions of dollars. So-called rich for a good 10, 15 years. Private planes, wallowing out. Kept looking at the bank accounts, ship saying, two, three, five million. I'm good to me. Man, they took all that shit. And let me tell you something. motherfuckers wasn't coming to see me. Nobody helped me. Nobody gave me a dollar. Nobody did nothing. Everybody thought it was over. This, this, this. So it was beyond the learning experience. So that when all the way up came out and the shit blew, I knew how to act with niggas. And I knew what it was. But let me tell you something. It happened to me three times in my life. I was very successful. Number one, then I fell. Then I became number one. Then I felt the third time. And let me tell you something. In this hood, I used to drive around with 29 dudes following me. And they all had the same truck paying for cash. Every single night, steak and lobster. Every single night, mow at. Every single night, like I was treating these dudes like, you know, motherfuckers get locked up. They be like, yeah, 50,000. We want them out. I'm in the middle of the Bronx court making a movie. We want them out now. I got my man, Ira the bellbomb, so let me get him out. Right. But you know, to only find out, none of the niggas was loyal, right? And then I put out all the way up, me and Remy. They give us, they say, yo, come. They had a number one club out here, Asus. And they said, yo, do the single release. We go, man, the fucking club is on till. Everybody you name is in that motherfucker. It's just rampact. The walls is sweaty. That was that type of record. The mirrors were sweaty, right? Yeah. So I'm up in there with Remy. And I get to my section. There's a hundred dudes in there already there. God, we made it. My brother, we made it. Oh shit, she's for us again. Yo, this the step. So I turn around. I perform. I'm walking out the door. The lights is on. Right. I turn around and I go, you, you, you. Who you was talking to? Him too. All the niggas with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never want to see you niggas again in my life. You said it like that? Like that. Never in my life come around me again. The whole club. Remy said, yo, you heard that? What? I could not, the, the nerve of dudes, right? Yeah. You don't call a dude a dude went to jail. You didn't write him a letter. You didn't say sorry. You didn't care. You didn't bring me an ice cream. You ain't do nothing. I put out a miracle. That all the way up was a fucking miracle. And you're going to be sitting in the section thinking like it's forgiveness. Yeah. They never hung out with me again in my life. All the way up. That was all the way up. Yeah. The new album, what's the name of it? Be More Grateful. Be More Grateful with the Be More Grateful song. Make sure you get your tickets. Make sure you tap in with the real one. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? The baby, who you got on the album? I went light on the feces. I got my daughter. Five. My favorite feature on the song with my daughter. I got a huncho, Corle Ray, and another name. He ain't getting them for baby. No doubt. I like Corle Ray. Not for sure. Huncho. That's nice. Everybody go out there, get that album, go to the show. Be More Grateful is the flavor's title I heard in a long time. Come on. That's what I met with it. Be More Grateful. You think it's gonna be more grateful? Everybody need to be more grateful. You like that? That's how I feel to have a good record right now. I feel grateful. My nigga, I shit it. What? That's what I'm saying. It must feel like a miracle. Come on now. I'm grateful. You got that number one joint. You don't want to do that. Man, come on. You seen everything I did that you went through the shit too. 100%. And you turned around and you was surprised. You was like, oh, I thought everybody was like. Come on now. Family. I thought everybody was 100. I thought everybody was dissing that. Crazy is, you probably had a friend that was still putting hits out the park. They could have just threw you a verse and get you where you need to be. And you're like, damn, am I lying or not? Throw a dog a bone. Something. Listen, this ain't that. Piece of bread with some garlic butter brush on it. Garlic butter brush. They don't know about that garlic butter brush. Woo. We're going to play. We're going to breathe in. Let's hear something, man. Where you going to play that? What speaker? That speaker. Oh, this is bad. Make sure it sound quality is right, man. You got the crackhead speaker. Oh, damn it is. A little play-off. See, Ruby could do it. If Ruby could do it. No, you can play that on any size speaker. It's that one. Damn, pop that makes it right. You can play that on it. We know to pop that. They nothing new. We ain't got no songs new. Oh, I got this. No, you know what you fucking with, man? You want me to go to the notes? In my phone, we just want to be something to strip off. Must be crazy to that somebody, man. You know that shit? We released a new music video. My dad's already done something fun. My man was in Magic City last, like two days ago. They was doing the sit-up in the ceiling. I said, God damn, I ain't been outside in a while. For sure. Jeez, that part, this shit must be going crazy in the strip club, huh? I ain't even been in strip clubs since it dropped. We ain't been in strip clubs. Go go. It's going to cost you a lot. No, exactly. I'm going to have to sell my ass. I ain't making rain. I'm scared to go. Oh, yeah, nah, yeah. Oh, I will walk in the club. They go, they throw the spotlight on me. No rain, man. Let's go. I'm trying. Oh, no, no, no. I said, I brought the dribbles in here. I'm trying to fix my face. I ain't seen shit. Right in that pocket. Just let them beat and do it. Let them beat and do it. That's the one called work, Zach. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get that nigga to dance in your video? Right, right, right, right, right, right. White America. Come on now. Exactly. They ain't got that shit. Damn you. You got that shit. She got the world in her hands. She make it 12 when she dance. I got the world in my hands. I got your girl in my pants. You know I love the way you move. I do. You with your girl today's cool. I ain't got no problem waiting on my turn. Teach me how to turn you to my band on my learn. Put your hands on the meat. Write my dick to your legs. Give me. Put your legs on the headboard. Baby, make a mess. Let me see if you can spread on the sheets. That was easy work. That was easy work. Oh. Yo. How to make the hit.com, man. Pop that thing out. Make a motherfucker. I tried to. Jesus. That's a super duper duper duper duper. Congratulations. Appreciate your money. This ain't that. That ain't this. Crack it. Catch some boys for the baby. Nigga. Pop that shit. I just let it happen. Yeah, you got to let them hits breathe. You don't understand that. I be trying to tell people all the time the hits. Why Jada is the daughter to that. Why none of them went in nut. You can't. You ain't got to force it. You just got to let the track breathe. Let that bitch happen. Oh, shit. 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