Empty Netters Podcast

The Mammoth Are The COLDEST Team In The NHL And Are Making Playoffs

85 min
Jan 27, 20264 months ago
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Summary

The Empty Netters podcast covers the Utah Hockey Club's impressive playoff push, analyzes college hockey's top teams heading into tournament season, and discusses NHL goalie performance trends showing declining save percentages league-wide since 2016.

Insights
  • Utah Mammoth's turnaround from last season's injury-decimated roster to playoff contention demonstrates the importance of roster health and player development timing in competitive windows
  • College hockey's elite teams (Western Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State) are characterized by balanced scoring and team-oriented play rather than reliance on individual star players
  • Declining NHL save percentages despite elite goaltending suggests systemic changes in shot quality, player positioning, and offensive strategy rather than goalie skill degradation
  • Stadium Series and specialty jerseys succeed when they introduce meaningful design innovation rather than simply recoloring existing team jerseys
  • Beer league culture's social bonding function transcends competitive outcomes, as evidenced by post-game celebrations regardless of score
Trends
NHL goal-scoring surge: Average goals per game reached 3.06 in 2024-25, highest since 2005-06, indicating offensive-friendly rule interpretation or strategy shiftGoaltender tandem usage increasing, potentially lowering average save percentages as backup goalies see more ice time than historicallyCollege hockey talent concentration: Top-ranked teams winning through depth and balanced scoring rather than individual superstar performanceSpecialty jersey design moving toward bold, asymmetrical designs with meaningful iconography rather than conservative recolorsWestern Conference playoff race tightening: Multiple teams within 5 points in wild card spots, increasing volatility in final standingsYoung NHL talent (Beckett Skaggs, Auston Matthews-era players) competing for Calder Trophy with legitimate three-way race rather than consensus favoriteUtah market showing strong sports engagement potential with NHL expansion, evidenced by team's rapid fan adoption and venue enthusiasm
Topics
Utah Hockey Club playoff positioning and roster recoveryNHL save percentage decline analysis (2016-2025)College hockey tournament seeding and Calder Trophy raceWestern Conference wild card competitionAnaheim Ducks seven-game winning streakColorado Avalanche point record pursuitClayton Keller performance resurgencePenn State hockey team momentumStadium Series jersey design evaluationBeer league hockey culture and traditionsNHL goal-scoring trends and shot qualityGoaltender equipment and rule changes impactMovie theater experience and post-film discussion cultureAmerican football viewership and commercial structureSports betting and odds boost promotions
Companies
BetMGM
Primary podcast sponsor offering NHL odds boosts and sports betting with promotional code NETERS for new player bonuses
Bauer
Equipment sponsor providing hockey sticks, pads, helmets, and apparel; discussed Bauer Pulse stick technology and inn...
SeatGeek
Ticketing platform sponsor offering event tickets with price comparison and buyer guarantee; promo code emptynetters10
Yeti
Cooler brand mentioned as having sued Utah Hockey Club over Yeti name consideration before settling on Mammoth
Buffalo Wild Wings
Restaurant chain discussed regarding multiple locations near Salt Lake City Delta Center arena
Starbucks
Coffee chain referenced in discussion of over-saturation of franchise locations in urban areas
People
Clayton Keller
Arizona/Utah Hockey Club player with 50 points in 51 games; named to Team USA and recently surging with 3 goals, 4 as...
Gavin McKenna
Penn State hockey player and projected #1 NHL draft pick; scored hat trick Friday and goal Saturday in wins over Wisc...
Logan Cooley
Utah Hockey Club young player mentioned as part of team's promising roster alongside other prospects
Leo Carlson
Anaheim Ducks player mentioned as needing to get healthy for team's playoff push
Beckett Skaggs
Rookie goaltender with 41 points in Calder Trophy race; second in shutouts, fifth in save percentage among league roo...
Connor McDavid
Edmonton Oilers player referenced in discussion of Bauer stick quality and elite player equipment
Tom Brady
Former NFL quarterback and host's favorite athlete; retirement prompted shift away from football viewership
Drake Maye
New England Patriots quarterback driving host's renewed interest in NFL following Brady's retirement
Quotes
"The Mammoth deserve to go like this. They're cold."
Host discussing Utah Hockey Club's playoff positioningEarly episode
"I strongly feel that teams should have to change names. When you move, you got to change the name."
Host on franchise relocation naming conventionsMid-episode
"The Ducks are the best team in hockey."
Host on Anaheim Ducks' seven-game winning streakMid-episode
"It is time to put on that little Derek Jeter fan respect hat. Gavin McKenna has adjusted to the game."
Host on Penn State player's performance surgeCollege hockey segment
"I think it's a great swindle. The male species' greatest swindle of all time that we watch football with our boys."
Host on NFL Sunday viewing cultureSuper Bowl discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite so... Okay! He gets on the sticks. Did TR show you the sonocycle or was that on your... No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice. Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guinesses. We're ending to you guys and that's where this podcast came to life. Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I'm your host Dan Powers and over here on the sticks. He looks amazing because he's got a twinkle in his eye and gold in his soul. John Bafini. Ah, shucks. How are you pal? Good, great, excellent. Fantastic and over here to my left he looks amazing because he's wearing a sweater that I bought him. Chris Powers. As always, that was actually nice. I was about to complain that you always get good shit and I always get bad shit. No, you don't get bad shit. You get honest shit. Yeah, okay. You get real shit. And everything is real. Sean too is just all good. Yeah, he's just a good, he's a perfect man. We addressed this last episode. And Sean just has always dropped in nuggets of truth and he's just the best guy in the world. Actually, I want to see... Can we clip that? It's probably gonna be... Yeah, it's a five second clip. Yeah. And it's just how it is. It's probably gonna be not as good as I want. What's gonna not be as good as you want? Yeah, I wish this had been better. Dude, I'm not mad that I have a burner Instagram, but I swear sometimes it hurts my engagement when I try to use it because everyone's like, this is a bot or something. I just think my comments deserve more appreciation and they are squandered by my gray picture and no posts. But in the Venmo thing, I did... My only comment is Sean Goat Emoji and he has six likes. Aw, thank you. Dude, I mean, you're getting a lot of love in that post because it's the truth. I mean, it's our reaction to it. I was just like, it was the same thing as the fries dilemma. Someone commented too, Sean, it says, yep, clapping emoji. I love him in the mix. Exclamation point, King emoji, goat emoji, wizard emoji. Wizard emoji. Wow. That's high praise. That's incredible. I mean, that is true special stuff. That's fantastic. What's also fantastic is hot ice, everything going on in the league right now. We got to start with the Utah mammoth. Dude, the mammoth, you know what I really like is when people, players go like this. Yeah, the cold Palmer. Yep, cold Palmer. Trey Young does it, I think. Ice, ice tea, ice cold. Yeah. Is that his nickname? Ice tea. I think so. That's pretty sweet. Ice tray, maybe? Or some shit? Pretty sweet. And I would like the mammoth to have that. I feel like it's the mammoth that gets to go like this. We cold, we're the mammoth. But I know that there are other teams that would say we're colder than Utah, like the Calgary. We have a ranch probably. And then all the teams win a peg. Yeah. Winter peg, Calgary. But the Calgary are the flames. Like you can't go. We're cold. And I'm like, you're a fire. You are. You are. You are. You're thinking about how ironic that name is. The Calgary flames. Flames. Why are they the flames? Can we look that up? Look that up right now. But yeah, you're in Northern Canada. It gets quite cold up there. And you are called the flames. That's interesting. Because the mammoth. Wait, wait, wait. Don't we know this is because they came over from Atlanta. The Atlanta flames. They were the Atlanta flames. That makes sense. And oh, whoa. Uh-oh. I feel like something bad happened. Okay. I have two comments now. One, I strongly feel that teams should have to change names. And I think this is a pretty common take. But it's like when the Minnesota North stars go to Dallas and then actually that one's kind of weird because the stars almost works. Wow. Dallas. I know it just feels like sheriff to me. You're like you're a Texas Ranger. They're all wearing stars. Yes. Yeah. Wait, I never put that together. That makes no sense. Stars and like the Texas Ranger thing. It is like the Texas Ranger. Do you know what the Texas Rangers are? The Texas Rangers? Yeah. Isn't that like a football team? Isn't that like a sports ball team? Close. Yeah, it's a baseball team. It's a baseball team. Yeah. It's a sports ball team. Yeah. It's a American cricket. But like the Dallas Cowboys have a star. Like that is their logo. So like fair. And I wonder if that one's actually a good one. Because I'm like, ooh, you're paying respect but also making it yours. Yeah. Because they were the Minnesota North stars. Sean, that was a hockey team. Yeah. Because of course the North Star Minnesota. Yeah. And then they. Hold on. I'm not sure. I'm okay with us saying of course. Dude, the stars are out everywhere in the sky. I get it. But what more so than. There's not a team in Maine and there wasn't a team in Seattle. So that Minnesota was probably the North. The northernmost. Team. Probably pretty close. But the U.S. does loop. It does smile. The U.S. does smile. Does smile. So maybe they're not that North. But it is more, it's objectively more North than Dallas. So the fair. They were the North stars. They moved to Dallas and they changed their name to the Dallas stars. They dropped to the North. Right. I, so I thought it was either, I mean, when you said like Texas Ranger, I was like, oh, yeah, because like sheriffs and stuff have like a star. Yeah. And like Texas is like the lone star state. Isn't it like, oh yeah. That's even cooler. It's even cooler. It, it, it must have been considered. Kind of nice. When they went down there, they must have said, let's just keep stars. Yeah. Because it's the lone star state. Cowboys have a star. Rangers. It's, it's in the sheriff stuff. It does make sense. So then there was also a Minnesota basketball team called the Lakers because there's lakes. It's the land of a thousand, 10,000 lakes. And then they moved to Los Angeles and just kept it, the Los Angeles Lakers. And I'm like, there's no water here. It hasn't rained in a billion years. That's so funny. You need to change your name, but then they didn't. And now everyone's like, oh, it's LA Lakers. And I'm like, no, it's very strange. So funny. And LA Lakers, it's funny because it sounds so iconic. I know. There's a bit of a literation there, but LA Lakers makes no sense. So yeah, I wish teams had to change their name. If you're going to move, if you're going to move them, you got to change their name. But then what's the point of you in buying a team if you don't get the brand recognition? I think because, well, I think you don't want it. Like the Arizona Coyotes were the hockey team. And then they moved last year and became the Utah Mammoth because the Utah Coyotes would have been fucking ridiculous. I will say Mammoth is a dope name. It's incredible. And they did, they did, Sean, they did the whole thing with the fans. They released a ton of options and then the fans voted like that one. Actually, I think they were trying to be the Yeti and then the Yeti, Yeti, he's like, coolers sued them. And I was like, no. So then it went to Mammoth. So yeah, but then you so you create your own thing with your new fan base and hopefully you keep some Arizona fans, but maybe not. But you know, now you got a thing where you're building. Actually, I wonder that that's such a good question. I feel as though there are so many Yotes fans who must be so loyal to their players. Yeah. That they're like, I'm still going to root for them. Have you rooting for them? Yeah. I don't know. People get mad about that. I think that if you're in Arizona, you have any sort of rivalry or anger towards Utah. Yeah. So this before we even get into that, I'm about to sneeze. Oh, log it. Log it. Oh my God. Only two. Hang on. Before we I don't want you to move on. I don't know what you're ready to say next, but Atlanta Flames. Why are they called Atlanta Flames? Okay, this is where I was going. So first of all, it was the Atlanta Flames, which I think adds to this argument because then moving to Calgary and staying the flames is fucking insane. The Calgary Flames. Ridiculous. How about the fucking icicles? How about the fucking ice flames? How about the Calgary snowmen? Yeah, dude, activate fire blades, dude. Calgary fucking fire blades. That'd be sick. So yeah, but I will say, however, Calgary Flames, one of the best. Calgary Flames, one of the best logos in the league all time. And so then it says that. So that's why they're the flames because they just came over. Ridiculous. The change of name. And then it says this, the name originates from their time as the Atlanta Flames who were named originally to commemorate the burning of Atlanta during the U.S. Civil War. Oh my God. I'm like, why in the fuck? Why are we commemorating that moment? Was that a good time? Hold on. That's like if we were like the Irish famished or something. The genuine. That's not a good part of our history. Truly. Or like LA, like, I mean, you could do that with LA with the fires. Yeah. Or like the LA earthquakes. Yeah. Isn't there a MLS team named the quakes, like the San Jose? Dude, too soon. The Irish fam. The Irish fam. And then, John, hilariously, your franchise transfers to another country and remains the famine. Yeah. Yeah. And then, your logo, a starving man. I don't know. They were starving in Ireland. Are we misinterpreting the burning of Atlanta in the Civil War? Like, was that like a good moment? What side was Atlanta on in the Civil War? I gotta believe the south. I promise you that it would be very strange if the city of Atlanta during the Civil War, what also? Yeah, because it's like Atlanta, Georgia, and that's like super sexy. Oh yeah. I highly doubt that they were an undercover. Northern allies down in Atlanta. It says, the burning of Atlanta was the widespread destruction of the city's military and industrial infrastructure by Union forces under General William T. Sherman in November 1864, shortly before his march to the sea crippling Confederate resources and morale by burning railroads, factories, and warehouses to prevent their use by the south, while not directly targeting homes, the fire spread, leaving much of the city in ruins and thousands homeless, marking a significant blow in the Civil War. This is... Go Flames, go! That is truly crazy to name your team after that. It is insane. I mean, objectively, the thousands homeless and people's homes destroyed, and I imagine many people dead, not good. Obviously a great moment for the Civil War, given that Union forces were able to hurt the Confederacy, but what are we doing naming the Atlanta team after that? The Calgary Flames. The Calgary Flames. Anyway, we're talking about the Utah Mammoth. Yep, and I just want them to be cold. I think the mammoth deserve to go like this. They're cold. Boom. They're cold. I also think Utah has claimed to be colder than Colorado. Right? Denver is the sunniest city in the country. You know that? Denver gets more sun than LA. Yeah, they're really sunny. I don't think... Yeah, I think Utah gets that. When we've been skiing in Colorado and Utah, I do feel like Utah is always colder. Yeah, probably. I mean, Montana, but there's no team. We could get a team up in Montana. There should be a Montana team. There have been any great tragedies in Montana we could name the team after. Yeah, or we just go the Montana palm trees. Yeah, yeah. They moved them. The Montana dolphins. Yep, done. Gators. We moved Florida Gators college team. We made them a pro team in Montana. So, all right, we're talking about the mammoth. We're actually going to do it this time. They've got the first wildcard spot right now with a three-point cushion. There are only nine points behind Dallas, and nine points is a lot. But for a time, we had talked about those three teams in the central being a lock. No one would ever catch them. Dallas and Minnesota are kind of slipping. In fact, if you look at the last 10 games for all three of Colorado, Dallas, and Minnesota, they're not great. They're record of all of their last 10 games. Yep, agree. The Aves... Okay, a couple things. One, you're right, but no one is catching them. I agree. I think you agree with that. Those three teams are going to be the three teams in the central in some order. Actually, I'll even say this. The Aves are going to win the central. I guarantee it. Dallas and Minnesota are going to be second and third in the central in some order. I guarantee it. Yeah. I am also... Uh-oh. Deading Colorado's chance to break the point record. I think so, too. Good day. Thanks for fucking coming out. Not on my watch. Bruins forever. That's over. Colorado, however, maybe prefers that because the... You got it. Bruins lost in the first round. The lightning lost in the first round. It happens a lot. So just don't do it. Ease the tension, baby. Don't break it. Ease the tension. Don't break it. Their goal differential still just cracks me up. It's unbelievable. But what I love about the Mammoth, they're playing great, five wins in a row. I want to talk about Clayton Keller. Three goals, four assists in his last four games. They're a team that's got a lot of guys buzzing. But what I love specifically about Keller, I think he has 50 points in 51 games now, his heater kind of comes on the tails of being named to Team USA when I think there were some people being like... When I said he's having one of the worst years in recent memory. Yeah, and people were like, does Keller need to be on this team? And he was like, I'll show you why I need to be on this team. And the last couple of games he's played, unbelievable. Making a highlight real place. Plus 18, too. That's fucking great. Oh, yeah. He's buzzing. It's fantastic. It's really fun to watch because this team last year was such a... They were honestly the ducks of this year coming into the preseason. Everybody was like, Mammoth, Mammoth, Mammoth, they're making play. Arizona played well. Logan Cooley, all these guys are awesome. And then they got decimated. And I'm actually using that word correctly. Okay. You guys know what that word means? Here comes another crazy tangent. You know what the word decimated means or where it comes from? So I believe Roman, someone's going to fucking ether me if this is wrong. But a Roman armies would fight in units, 10 units. They would bring up, they'd be like, boom, your chunk. Decimal. Yeah. So then if one got wiped out, they'd be like, oh, we've been decimated. Like we lost one-tenth of our fleet. Brilliant. And I feel like we always use it now meaning like... Destroyed. Destruction. And I'm like, you lost one-tenth. You're fine. Yeah. So they've been more than decimated. They've been decimated right over with injuries last year. Remember, they lost like every defenseman on earth. And I was like, oh, okay. And they kind of had a little fight in them. But it was just too little, too late last year. And then I thought this year, man, what a disappointment because they were so hyped about playoffs. And now they stink and they will always think and everything sucks. Now they don't suck. And that's kind of fun. I think it's so fun. I also think vibes in Utah in playoffs would be gas. Yeah. People ordering, dude, people pre-gaming, going to the bar, go, can I get a drink? They go, no problem. Here's less liquor than you would get in a drink in any other state. And they go, oh, dope. You know what? Now games on Sunday. Can we have a drink? And they go, nope. No alcohol on Sunday, but enjoy the game. Yeah. It's going to be so sick. We actually just got hit up by Utah's team. I know. And we've got to talk to them about... Because you know what I desperately want to do? I want to go to Utah and ski all day and get off the mountain and take a shower and drive over to the arena and go to a game. Yeah. I'm not sure I can think of a better day. How far is the rink from... Is it at the Delta Center still? Yeah. They're in the Delta Center forever, ever. Forever. Like how far is Alta from Delta Center? It is. It doesn't even matter. I bet it's 38 minutes. 36 minutes. That was really good, Dan. Thank you. That was really good. That was so easy. That was really good. I'll ski all day. Yeah, because you can stay. Dude, you get your place in Salt Lake City. Exactly. And then you just... That's what we always do. Boom, boom, boom. We always get a house in Salt Lake City and then drive to the mountains. So I'll just ski, get off the mountain at like four, drive home, shower, and then go to Delta. God, I have the best day of my life. There's a top golf right there. There's a Buffalo Wild Wings right there. There are two Buffalo Wild Wings. You're telling me this... We're going to drive... The route takes us directly past two Buffalo Wild Wings. We got to find out how far apart these Buffalo Wild Wings are. Because this... They're treating Buffalo Wild Wings like Starbucks in Utah. That's crazy. There's two on every corner. Yeah. Hold on. Have you ever been to New York City? Yes, yeah. Have you ever... I don't know if you've seen... The moments when you're in New York City and you are standing on a corner outside of the Starbucks and you look across the street and there's a Starbucks there as well is when I'm like, this is madness. I think it's San Diego Airport and Terminal 2 where you can do that. You can stand at one Starbucks and look about 45 feet down the terminal and see another Starbucks. And I'm like, what was the point of this? Dude, sometimes... Can we not get a coffee bean in here? Yeah. Sometimes in Boston a lot with dunks. But sometimes it's on Route 1 for example and there's a guard or whatever that you can't cross. Right? There's a guard. You can't turn. You have a median. So it's like there's a dunks across the street but I'm like, well, those serve two different people because you can't get... You can't... You know, you can't U-turn. So it's like actually kind of nice but I love the fucking airport terminal where I'm like, I could just walk there. This is a traffic issue. The most American thing ever is not being able to walk across the street because of car infrastructure. So you just build another of the thing on your side of the street and of course that thing is a donut shop. Yeah. Yeah. These Buffalo Wildlings are a 16 minute drive apart in Salt Lake City. That feels close. That's... Yeah. But I mean, that could still be like... I could see how those are like... That's okay. 16 is okay. If it was like four, I'd be like that's insane. Yo. Okay, dude. So perfect day. Perfect day. And Utah, stay hot, dude. Stay hot. Stay hot because... And also Utah will see you soon. Like I said, we just got hit up by the mammoth. The mammoth. Mammoth. And we're gonna come get some stuff, crack it. You know what's exciting? Not crack it. I was gonna say pun intended. What's exciting is right now the wild card is Mammoth 58, Sharks 55, Kings 50 and games are slightly skewed. Sharks 55, Kings 55, Crackin 55 and I will put in the Preds 52. I think I'm deading the Hawks, I think. From playoffs? Yep. Yeah. But maybe not. Only five points back. No, no. They play a couple of times. That wasn't me saying, yeah, I'm deading that. And you were probably deading the Preds. I am keeping them alive because I believe and I believe this match. Well, see, here's my thing. Like I'm... The Preds are above 500. Yep. And the... As far as point percentage. Yeah, yeah. And the Hawks are below 500. And I think through 52 games to be below 500 is tough, but at the same time, we've seen it before. Yeah. So I'm not gonna get... I will not dead them. I'm gonna get the spots for Mammoth, Sharks, Kings, Crackin. Yeah. You know, I'm putting ducks, ducks in. So yeah, like the... Mammoth, dude, you could make it. Yeah. It's not like there's teams... It's not like there's the getting healthy Panthers behind them surging where you're like, oh, shit. For sure. You know, like you could make it. For sure. You could make it. It would actually... It actually feels sick, Dan, that I'm putting the... Well, they're not in for sure, but I just believe the Kings are gonna make in playoffs. So that means one of Mammoth, Sharks, and Crackin. Yeah. We'll probably get in. And I'm like, fuck yeah. 100%. Let's talk about another team that's streaking. You just mentioned them, Anaheim Ducks. Is there anything that happened to the Ducks that has spawned this seven-game win streak? I feel like... Because they were slumping big time. Big time. They were in a rut. They had fallen out. They fell out of First in the Pacific, then they fell out of Top 3 in the Pacific. Yeah. They fell out of a wild card spot. Yeah. They were in big, big trouble. And then I swear something happened, and now they've won 7-8, and now they're making playoffs easily. They needed a boost. They needed some mojo. God. They needed someone to help them take flight. That's what it was. My hand is still not right. That's what it was. We went down to the Honda Center. We hammered the take flight button. We got the crowd fired up. We inspired the boys, and now the Ducks are the best team in hockey. That is all true, except we did nothing. We did everything. Well, listen, we went down there, and we gave a little bit of oomph, but the boys did it. And that's why they're still doing it. They've won 7-8, Beckett, your boy, got his first NHL Hattie last Sunday night. Unbelievable. Criter, goal as well. Here's the thing. The Duckeys, they're back in top three in the Pacific. They could win the Pacific. They're one point behind Edmonton, I believe, with the game in hand, and there are only three points behind Vegas. And how many games? Vegas is sitting on a bunch of games, though, right? Only one. Only one. Okay. So, the Duckeys have played 51, Edmonton 53, and the Duckeys 52. Okay, yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yes, that's actually tight. That's actually tight. Vegas is always, Vegas is weird as fuck, dude. Absolutely. But it is funny. They've got 62 points, 60 points, and 59 points. And then if you just go down, the Sharks have 55, and the Kings have 55, and Seattle has 55. So, it's all tight in this game. And they only have 50 games, those guys. Yeah, true. So, you've got to win them. You've got to win them, but technically, they're tied if they get those games in hand. The Ducks are awesome, dude. It's been so sick watching them be good. Such a fun team. I really, really want them to make playoffs. I actually am very sure they're going to make playoffs. Similar to what we just said about the Avs, I'm glad they had that dip then. Yeah. You know, it's a long season. These are young guys. They need to feel some adversity. They did. This is a good time to surge. Grabbing a couple of wins here. I hope they get to Olympic Break Strong, get some rest. Leo Carlson, get healthy. Healthy. Boom. We're off and running because they have entered. It's a disaster if they miss. You think so? Yeah. I don't know if I'm ready for the word disaster. It is. I think it is a massive disappointment. They were first in the Pacific Tilt. Like, but you, yeah, I know, but you can't. I don't think you can say disaster when you have this young team with everyone under contract. But it's it's and also everyone is so happy and chill. Yeah, true. True. That's a thing. That's a thing. When Vancouver, this is going to be such a ricochet shot in Vancouver and I apologize. When Vancouver was the best team in the league. Yep. And then the next year they were bad again. That was a disaster because there were, you know, contracts coming up. There was rumors of players being unhappy and wanting trades and look at how many trades we've seen. Everyone in Anaheim is like, I fucking love it here. Let's keep rocking. So I think it would be a massive disappointment. I'm not ready to use the word disaster, but massive disappointment falls in the same category as you got to make playoffs. So they got to keep this up. Yep. Beckett. I don't even want to talk about this really, but Beckett. The where do where are you currently at? So preseason. This is what I didn't want to talk about, but whatever. Fuck it. Fuck it. Tell me if you want Beckett preseason or sorry, not preseason after opening night. Okay. We went to open. He's opening night. Yeah. And I was like, man, this team looks so good. And Beckett looked so ready, so ready. Oh my God. He's unbelievable. In one game. They had played some real games, but I was like, holy shit, this kid is like unfazed. I sprinkled Beckett Calder. Yeah. Then. Yeah, you did. And right now, Demidoff has 43 points. Beckett has 41 and Schaefer has 34. And I had said a while ago, we had all been like, oh, it's Schaefer. It's Schaefer. It's Schaefer. I think as of right now, and we'll do our three quarter season awards eventually, but I'm wondering where you're at, Dan, with we had said, well, it's the Lane Hudson thing. Like it's not really a point race because of Schaefer's in the mix. Like it's obviously Schaefer. The Islanders are in playoffs. It's incredibly turned the entire city around, turn the entire island around. But it's morphing away from Schaefer for me right now. I believe that it's not as much of a runaway for Schaefer as it once was. I'll agree. And I want to give props to Demidoff. Oh, we probably win right now. I don't know about that. I still think it's probably amongst players. I think it's still probably Schaefer, but I still put Walstet up there. Walstet is still amongst the league leaders. He's definitely fallen off a little bit with goals against, I think. But save percentage, I believe he's fifth in the league in save percentage. He's second in the league in shutouts. We're talking about a rookie. I know. A rookie goaltender. But what's really exciting about the Caldera race is it is very much a race. We've got a lot of dog fun. We've got a lot of horses in this race now, which is very cool. This will be one where usually you're like, obviously, I know the top three, so let's see what they go with. And this one, I'll be like, man, making a final. Like the top three finals will be something of an announcement, too. No doubt. No doubt. Um, Ducks in playoffs, I think, is an absolute. They're must. They're, oh my God, dude. It's always awesome when there's, when there's a little bit of new blood. We hadn't seen it in a while. I talked about at the top of the year, uh, how the stock that you should be putting into the Anaheim Ducks and the San Jose sharks. And it is so wild and how cyclical the world is. It feels like we are on a crash course to the Ducks and the Sharks being massive, massive players and contenders for the next 10 years. And that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's amazing. You wanted to talk about some goalie stuff. Dude, I just had, I found a cool thing, um, on Reddit that was so interesting. The average across the entire league, I'm sure there's a minimum start, but across the entire league, every goalie, say percentage. I'm going to read you from the 2016 season all the way to so far this season. Okay. 913 say percentage 912. So hold on. Say this, say this, this is the, this is the average, the average say percentage of every goalie in the league, I'm sure with some minimum start. So it's not like this one guy played one game and then tank the same. Got it. So every goalie say percentage across every goalie in the league, 2016 season to now, 913, 912, 910, 910, 908, 907, 904, 903, 900, 897. Just steady plummeting every year since 2016. And I'm, and we've seen points go way, you know, that's not that surprising to me. Cause I'm like, oh, you're going out. People are pumping in points. But sometimes there's such clear things. Oh, we reduce goalie equipment size. Yeah. Go, go even farther back with a sentence, one piece sticks, one piece fiberglass sticks. Like, you know, things change. I'm just going to say Bauer has, is making the best sticks on planet Earth. Yeah. Bauer chill. Yeah. Stop it. Literally chill dude. Don't ever stop. You can give these guys a pulse. Bauer should only make sticks for us. Like we, I need, that's what I'm saying. I'm a plug. We need these guys don't need this type of stick. You can't be giving a pulse to Conor McDavid. That would be in CERECCMA, but you can't give a pulse to somebody. David Posterdock. David Posterdock. Um, so, but goalies, I'm like, I'm, I swear I'm looking at like the best goalies in the league, like the goalies are better than they've ever been. I know it's, it's really funny when you look across the league and we did this with Olympics, thinking about how, how many unbelievable goalies there are for all of these different nations. It feels like there are so many elite goalies in the league right now. So many. Yeah. I wonder if this has to do with how heavy the tandem vibes are these days. Maybe. Yeah. I think that is it. You know, like back in the day, we're living in days where Martin Bredour was playing 72 games in an NHL season. Right. That's, that's pumping those numbers up. That's a good take actually. Let me think about that. I wonder maybe we're. So backups are getting in more. Yeah. Who are theoretically worse, theoretically. Some teams have a luxury of two great. It doesn't mean you're a bad goalie, but theoretically a little bit worse than your starter back. Not as great as your start. I wonder if total. I've always thought this. I wonder if total shots are down because I swear people take more calculated shots. Now it's instead of just being like just get it on the cage, which was a, which was a, which was a mantra for a long time. Yeah. I think now it's like, no dude, just don't flick it on there. It's a waste of possession. Turnover. Yeah. Get it. Cross sight, line, sight, line, sight, line, bang, shot, goal. Yeah. Fuck you. Fuck you. Cause I do see some games to the other day it was like, oh, what was the fucking Tampa game, dude? Fucking Tampa bluejack. It was like eight, five, but I was looking at it was like, it was five, four with 10 minutes to go in the second period. And each team had taken like 12 shots and I was like, it's five, four. Trace is going on, dude. So maybe it's that, but I don't know. I'm looking at these numbers here that you shared with us and it looks like, you know, what, what are these, it doesn't show me what it is. What are the, are these goals scored on the left and then shots on the right? Uh, yeah. So like, there's gotta be, I guess, there's more shots in 2025 than there were in 20. Let me see if I can find that cause that doesn't make sense. Hey, like the math that, that ain't math and at all. Oh, here it is. I feel like there's just a screenshot from them. Yeah. Right. Either way. I wonder what that means. It's interesting. We're just scoring a lot of goals. We're scoring a lot of goals and I'm getting in the net. I'm here for it because I like this. I like a, what's, what's your dream? You go to an NHL game. Yeah. Boom. Not a team that you are rooting for. Actually, sure. Whatever. But you go to an NHL game. You've had a drink before. Yeah. Everybody's excited. You got great seats. I just skied. You just skied. I just had a full day of skiing. Skied Bdub. Bdub for a pregame drink. Then Bdubs for a pregame, different Bdubs for a pregame meal. Yeah. Bdub drink, Bdub wing, wings, wings. Then get to the rank. You get to the rank. Got great seats. Got it. What's your dream score? Score. Four, three in OT. I think four, three is a perfect hockey score. Seven goals. Yeah. Yeah. So it's goal for every period. And for each team per game. And each other. An extra one for the OT. Yeah. Little, little free hockey. Okay, Dan. So here you go. Graph of average goals per game in the NHL. This isn't go up to recent enough. Fuck that graph. Hold on. Yes. Goals? No. This cannot be right. Do you think this is per team? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I don't know. You're losing. You're losing the plot with us here. I'm just so curious if seven is what we're seeing. Here we go. TheHockeyNews.com. NHL teams are averaging 3.2, 1, 2 goals per game. Yeah. So I guess hockey reference was right. So that's, I mean, if each team is doing that, then we're getting close to seven goals. Yeah. So it's been over three for the last, it's 306 so far this year. Okay. So we're in the 301 last year, 308, 314, 311. Then we're in the twos, twos, twos, twos, twos, twos. Yeah. So this is the first time it's been in the threes. This run since 05. Since Crosby joined the league. Yeah. 222, 222, ooh, 95, 96, 314. Oh, wow dude. Dude, now we're talking down. 1981, 82, 4.01. Oh, those were the times. That might be the only four. Dude, is that the only four? Oh no. 1940, 1943, 44, 4.08. Those are the only fours ever except for, Stand up goaltenders with no helmet on. 1917, 4.75. Take me back, dude. Take me back. You imagine. Take me back. Okay, so that's our mission, dude. The last one, two, three, four full seasons and we're in our fifth. We're in threes for the first time in a while. Yeah. We're up. Keep it going. Pump those numbers up. I want to be four. Don't go too high though. I want to be 4.01 by 2035. Cuts. I think 3.5 is a sweet spot. Then we're getting seven goals in a game. Okay, 3.5 by 2028. That were money. I like that. I like that too. It's probably a pretty good score. You're right. All right, let's take a quick ad break and then get back into some college hockey. It's Tuesday. You know what that means. BetMGM has got something absolutely cooking for you because every Tuesday of the NHL season, BetMGM is dishing out extra winnings with the NHL odds boost token. Here's how you get in on that action because to miss out on that action would make you a crazy person. It's Tuesday. Do it right now. Log into your BetMGM account. Add an NHL wager to your BetSlip. 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Time to jump into NETERS College puck drop. Breaking down the college game. We had a big weekend. Our game of the week was number three, Western Michigan, going to number seven Duluth, and they beat them 4-3 on Friday and 4-3 in OT on Saturday. The Broncos have never been more. People ready to admit it? They have never been more back. People ready to admit it. You knew it. You've known it all along. I hate to say it, but you were right. You were right. Dude, it's incredible. And people were sleeping on them for no fucking reason, by the way. Yep. And never playing anybody. Never played anybody. Get fucked. Dude, they are going to be, they're going to, I think there's pressure to repeat. I think they had a target on their back. They're going to have a target on their back in the tournament, but that is a group that just proved they know what it takes to win. So good luck. Good luck getting them out. Yeah. You know what's interesting about that team is they're such a team. Yep. When you go to individual statistics, I think Grant Slakinski is like 31st in the country as far as points per game, which just goes to show they're a top three-ranked team in the country, and they're not being carried by one guy or two guys. They are very, very well-rounded. And I think that's scary. That's the team that you do not want to go up against. Number six, Quinnipiac beat Sacred Heart 5-1 on the road on Friday, but then lost 4-2 at home to Yukon, number 13 Yukon on Saturday. Yukon had gone to Yale on Friday and beat them 5-2. Big rivalry. Definitely. All three of the little round robin of hate there. Tough matchup. Quinnipiac, still good, but fuck, you want that game. You want that game bad. You want that game bad at home to just keep the momentum up. Yeah, that's not great. Not great at all. What is great is BC recently. They beat UNH 5-2 at home on Friday and 3-0 on the road on Saturday. Dean Latterno playing out of his mind. I think he's top of the nation in drafted players in their second year in college or something like that. James Hagan's another Bruins prospect doing great stuff over there, but that BC team is starting to fire a little bit. And again, that's a rivalry weekend, too. Yeah, hell yeah. That's a hot East rivalry weekend. We're making UNH great again. UNH is playing well, so that's big for BC. Good weekend for U-Main, too. Number 17 U-Main. They beat Lowell 2-0 on Friday and 6-5 and 0-T on Saturday both on the road. Dean's been a little up and down. They were top 10 for a long time, and they had some huge wins, and they have some slip-ups. Little wins like this, little weekends like this get you back going, and they're going to be in the mix the whole way. A little bit of mo-mo for sure. Yeah, I got no issue with me. Number 11 Providence beats 18 BU at home 4-3 on Friday and then went to BU and beat them 4-0 on the road. BU is in trouble, for sure. This is a, with the roster they have, they just keep having weekends like this. Listen, Providence is a great team, but it's the 4-0 loss on Saturday that is just a dagger. It's kind of like, oh, boys, I don't know here. I don't know what we're doing because that makes them slip big time, and we've got BU out of the top 20 now. Well, they're 12, 12, and 1. What are we doing? And Colizum told us, dude, you just beat the beanpot. I'm coming right up here, the beanpot. First few Mondays and February changed our entire season last year. You didn't want to rely on that momentum swing again this year, but I more mean just the timing of the season. Nothing is decided, nothing is over. So you're okay, but dude, they are, you've gone so far that you're like, hey, guys, and luckily it's a group that learned this exact lesson last year, but it's like, hey, dude, now we're fucking literally never. BU Men's Hockey is officially in February is the most important month of your life. That's that. Number 10, Dartmouth, who we've loved all year. They went to number 12 Cornell on Friday, lost 2-1 in OT. Then Dartmouth went to Colgate on Saturday and lost 5-2. Bye. Bye, top 10. There goes that top 10. I hate to see that from Dartmouth, but good stuff from Cornell. Yep. Cornell hosted Harvard on Saturday, 1-4-1. They're looking pretty good, and they're looking like all the falling they did early in the season. Don't forget how highly they were ranked preseason. Yeah. So now they're coming on really strong. So real. We got a blue chip death. Number two, Michigan State beats Minnesota 3-1 on Friday, 3-2 on Saturday. Minnesota, you're dead. I wanted them to have that resurgence, and they didn't. Here's another one who's dead. Number four, No-Dak went to Arizona State, 1-7-4 on Friday, and 5-3 on Saturday. No-Dak, nasty. Arizona State dead. Also wanted them to recover from their early season debacle. They have not. Thanks for playing. It was fun. It was fun, but you're dead. We're not going to, you are no longer a threat. We're not going to take you seriously. A team that needs to be taken seriously, St. Thomas. Number 16, unranked opponents in Lake Superior with a 7-4 win, and then 5-0 on Saturday. This is what we talk about. You got to beat unranked teams. You can't slip, and we're seeing tons of teams slipping. And over here, very quietly, St. Thomas is just this team that not a lot of people think about, not a lot of people give enough attention to, and they're just surging. Been kind of crazy. Yeah. 19, Michigan Tech went to Northern Michigan, took care of them 8-2 on Friday, but then they lost 3-2 at home on Saturday. Perfect example of what can happen if you don't take care of business. Denver loses to St. Cloud at home. 4-2 on Friday, they bounce back with a 6-0 win on Saturday. But again, that's a split that you don't like if you're Denver. Saw them fall out of the top. They're back to start of the season, Denver. Yeah. You know, they got in the middle, they clean that up so much, and now I'm like, dude, why are you dumping these games? Number 20, Minnesota State beat number 14, Augustana 4-1 at home on Saturday. Good win for Minnesota State, honestly, because Augustana is similar to St. Thomas is someone who demands, Joe Bluth, I demand to be taken seriously. Yeah. And that's been cool to see. So tough loss for those boys. Yeah, burrito. OK. And then the big one, action of the weekend, we had number 8, Penn State went to number 5, Wisconsin. They beat them 7-2 on Friday after Wisconsin went up 2-0 in the game. And then Penn State ripped off seven straight goals. Penn State then won 3-1 on Saturday after trailing 1-0, going into the third. Gavin McKenna with a hatty on Friday and another goal on Saturday. Second goal was disgusting, knocked that pass out of the air, came in, snipped one through the defender's legs. It is time to put on that little Derek Jeter fan respect hat. Yeah. Because we had conversations of Gavin McKenna. Maybe Cal Chalky was a little bigger than he was anticipating. Maybe he's taken a little bit of time to adjust to the game. He has adjusted to the game in the new year. Yep. And he looks fucking disgusting. And there's a lot of guys on this Penn State team. Again, they're ranked number 8. They're now ranked number 5. All of a sudden, the projected number one draft pick in the country is playing the best he has played all season. If you were a team going up against Penn State right now, you are not feeling very thrilled. That's correct. And shout out my boy Kyle who texted me and was like, looks like people said, Gavin, not trying hard enough. And he said, hold my fucking beer. Yeah. That's been the demo. Like, oh, he actually does have this talent. He just isn't asserting himself in these games. And this is a great weekend. OK, we're not saying, oh, wow, now look out for the McKenna wrecking crew coming forward. But we could be. We could be. And this team will be super exciting in the tournament, no matter what. Because first frozen for ever last year, 750K to get Gavin McKenna this year. This is what they wanted. They wanted this hype. They wanted this target. And they wanted to make another run. And they are not going to make a deep run unless he is going. And this would be a great time for him to start getting hot and just riding this thing because, bro, if they win the Natty, it would be incredible. It would be truly unbelievable. OK, let's hit some new rankings. One, two, got to be the same. One, two, got to be the same. Out of respect. Michigan didn't play. Michigan State took care of their shit. So it would be unfair, even though they, Michigan State, played the corpse of Minnesota. It still is worthy of staying in number two. Yeah. Number three. It's got to be the same. Got to be Michigan. Got to be Western Michigan. I think so, too. 100 percent. Like, you just pumped Duluth. Yeah. So I'm going Western Michigan three. Then you have to go North Dakota stays four. They did nothing wrong. I agree. But then I need Penn State. Yeah, could they jump them? No, they can't. But you're right. North Dakota four, Penn State five, also out of respect. Then you go, I mean, I'm kind of loving. I'm kind of loving what Providence did. The question is how bad I want Denver out. Get Denver out. I want Dartmouth out. Get them out. Quinnipiac. I don't know if they can fall all the way out, but they're going low. Is Duluth getting kicked out? Is number seven Duluth out due to getting by Western Michigan? I don't think they can be out. But maybe they're like nine or 10. I mean, they're good games. No, I agree. 43, 43. Yeah, I know. I'm not putting them out for sure. Not. OK, so give me then. Give me at six, maybe Providence. Maybe Providence goes, I know they beat BU's 18. I need Providence top 10 for sure. Basically, I want, I need Providence in there. We have five spots left. I need Providence. I need to decide how far Quinnipiac drops and how far Duluth drops. So there's three spots. And then does UConn sneak back in? Does BC sneak back in? And then what happens to Wisconsin? How far does Wisconsin drop? I'll go as far as nine for Wisconsin, but no more than that. OK, so let's put Wisconsin at nine. Is Duluth only eight or does Duluth go all the way to 10? Because they have to fall, but they were good games. They either fall one for those good games or they fall three. Do we have six locked? No, six is open. OK, so we've got Michigan, Michigan State, Western Michigan, No Deck, Penn State. That's the same as the current ranking. Like we're on par with the current ranking. I want Providence up. I want Duluth up. Duluth up? No, no, I'm selling up in here. Duluth, Wisconsin, and Providence must be in here for me. I almost think Cornell too. Oh, yeah, I like that one. Let's get Cornell in here. And then where do you have Quinnipiac? That's the big thing for me. Right. Like is Quinnipiac just six? Because Quinnipiac is six in the ranking. Like I'm not sure. It's certainly not six. They lost to Yukon at home. Yeah, OK. Good day. So you think you want Duluth or Wisconsin above them? Providence above them? Providence could go above them. You're going to put Providence all the way up at six. Sure. Let's do it. Providence at six. Then do you like Quinnipiac over Duluth and Wisconsin? Mm, I guess so. OK, so Quinnipiac at seven. And now I think we go eight, nine, 10 is Duluth, Wisco, Providence. Wisco nine. And Providence. Providence is six, so they can't be all the same time. And Cornell, I mean. Cornell over Yukon? Yeah, fuck it. Yeah, Cornell 10. Boom, done. All right, games of the weekend, unbelievable matchups. We got BCBU. We got Denver, Duluth. We got Michigan, Ohio State. Lots of rivalry weekends, but has to be Michigan State, Penn State. Michigan State tagged them twice earlier this year, right? 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Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Enjoy. Welcome back, Dan. We're going back to Super Bowl. We're going back to Super Bowl. It's unbelievable. Everybody, doing Lin versus everybody, all over again, dude. The old days are back. After a short reprieve, the world's national nightmare has returned. The Patriots are the greatest team of all time. Drake May is the next, Dysthombrady reborn. Sean, do you like American football? Do I like American football? I've never really understood American football. I've had a couple people try to explain it to me, and it seems very complicated. And every Super Bowl, people are like, oh, come over to my house. Like, I'll show you everything. I'll explain everything, and I get there, and I'm like, so what's happening now? And they're like, I don't know. They have no idea. Do you think, I guess here's my question. Because I like American football, but I don't pretend to be a football guy. I know the rules, certainly, but I don't know the A gap. I guess I probably do know what the A gap is, but there's technical things of football that I'm like, I've never played the game. I don't know anything about that. I loved watching Tom Brady, my favorite athlete ever. But once he retired, football, it's the sport itself. Doesn't interest me that much. I think if there's no action, nothing's happening, it's really slow. But I have to say, having not watched a lot of football the last few years, because Tom had retired and now kind of being back into it because the Patriots are good again, it is a fun day. You know, it's a fun gathering. Even more than the sport itself. So I was curious as a foreigner, if you're like, it is pretty sick that you guys, you have a day of the week where everyone's like, dude, should we all hang out and eat awesome dips and drink? And I'm like, yes. Yeah, I feel like, I mean, I can't speak for certain because I've never been to an American football game live. But I do know that baseball is great live. But if someone wants to come over to my house and we're gonna watch baseball, I'd be like, are you fucking insane? That seems like a really boring time. Despite the fact I love being at baseball games, I feel like the reverse might be true for football games, where the real enjoyment happens at your house or your friend's house. When you go to have a little party and people are barely paying attention to the actual football game, but that's kind of like the reason everyone has like congregated. I could be wrong in that because I don't know for certain, but maybe. No, I think that's very accurate. I think it's very accurate. The tailgate is fun. The tailgate is fun, but it's, again, listen, we're back in the Super Bowl and I'm very happy. I love Drake May, I love Mike Rable. I love the New England Patriots. Football, American football is the most, it's the strangest sport in the world to me. That stat of there are 60 minutes on the clock in an American football game and on average, I think it's something like there's 13 minutes of actual football that is played. That is insane. That is utterly insane. How much soccer do you think is played? 90 minutes, what do you mean? It's, well, no, there's time wasting on the sidelines, but that's a fair point. And like a free kick, you know, it's definitely not 90, it's high as well. I bet it's 80, yeah. I bet there's no way there's more than actual 10 minutes of real dead time in soccer. I bet it's 80, but that's a great question. You could even look that up right now. But again, it is crazy to me that this sport is the most popular sport in the world. And we don't even play the game. We're watching these games over the weekend and you just can't help but laugh how many times it cuts to TV commercials. And the TV timeout is like 10 full minutes. Is it like that to, like, is it made for TV? Is it like that to Taylor, to advertisers? Okay, I have a take on this. And to answer your question, the average, this is a wide range, but the ball is actually in play for 51 to 68 minutes per game. Damn, that's great. Okay, wow, I've given way too much credit. So did I, I thought it was gonna be 82. Yeah, this one says it can get up to 70. Okay, this is my take, Sean. This is the one I was gonna talk about, but to answer that question, if you're watching HBO, Home Box Office, that plays TV, it's like, you know, your show's 30 minutes. That show starts at like 9 p.m. and your show airs till like 9.26. And then there's four minutes of commercials and bullshit, you know, HBO pays the bills and then the next show starts. And you can probably answer this, but I'm told that is normally how it works in Europe, where it's like the TV show plays, then there's a block of commercials. Then the next show plays. Whereas on American television, it's like your TV show is from 9 to 9.30. So we play at 9 to 9.05 and then make you watch two minutes of commercials, then 9.07 to 9.12 and then make you watch two minutes. You know, it's like all broken up. And I swear soccer is plays to the European style of television where it's like the game plays, then there's a break. Then the game plays, whereas football goes like this, game, commercial, game, commercial, game, game, commercial, commercial, game. You know, and you're like, the fuck is going on? But we're just used to it. Like I can't imagine what would happen if there was like a live game, like a live football match. And they were just like, all right, commercials. And you don't get to see what's happening during the football match. It's insane. Or the soccer match. The actual team, like momentum, you know, like catching your, opponents catching your breath, like you have someone on the ropes and they're like, oh, Zari, this is the television commercial. And I'm like, what dude? And here's the deal. Listen, I'm wrong here. Yep. But my opinion is that I don't love going to football games. It's an amazing experience. And it's wonderful and you're lucky if you can go to one. And I hope everyone who wants to gets that experience, but I don't personally think they're that fun. You get there, you're in a stadium that's charging way too much money for beer and way too much money for food. And you sit there and you do feel the lack of football. And not to mention the fact that I don't care how good your seats you are, excuse me, I don't care how good your seats are, it's a big field. Yeah, yeah. So when the teams are on the other side of the field, you're kind of like, can't really see what's going on. I think it's a better experience to watch on TV in your own home or in a bar when you got all the food and drink that you could want. And also I feel like I see the game better, which feels insane. But the fact that there's still an issue with that too, because we were, that Patriots game was, they just ran every single play and the game was over in three hours and we were going, God, that was the quickest game ever. Three hours and we were saying it was the quickest game ever. But that was kind of my point. Isn't it kind of sick? I think it's a great swindle. I think it's like the male species greatest swindle of all time that we were like, we watch football with our boys and it takes 10 hours. You know, the first kickoff's 10 a.m. and Sunday night football ends at fucking 8 p.m. Oh yeah. On the West Coast and I go, yeah, I gotta go get fucking hammered with my friends all day. I'm sorry. I think the gals always joke about, there's a bunch of funny Instagram videos where they're like, they lie to us. They said, listen, Sundays, we can't go to the farmer's market, we can't do this and that because, especially on the West Coast, football starts at 10 a.m. and doesn't end until eight. And on the East Coast, it starts at one and doesn't end until 11. But then it was like, there is also Monday night football and there's also a Thursday night football. And now sometimes we play on Saturday too. It's like, it is the greatest swindle. And there was lying involved too. Like it went even further than that. It's crazy. So you don't watch ever. You don't do that. You don't have a hang on Sunday. No, I don't have any friends. Is that what you're asking? Yeah. I do watch football just alone. I'm sitting by myself. No, I don't really watch football. It'd be kind of pointless for me because I don't really understand the game. Do you crave a, but like I want to sit there, I want to sit and watch something for four hours with a bunch of my friends. Yeah, movies. Yeah. Yeah, for me, that fulfillment is made by movies. That's not even watching the movie. It's like, we'll go to a movie theater, watch and then afterwards it's just like the discussion that takes like three times the length of the film. It's crucial though, Jude. Cause you sit with the movie and no one talks. And you're like, okay, good to see everybody. Yeah. Like it would be insane to me if you just saw a movie and at the end you're just like, all right, we'll see you, like bye. Dude, Loop and Fuss and I went to a movie, like Fantastic Four maybe. Yeah. And they were like, come on down. And granted in their defense, we did meet just before for a quick Loki Bowl. Nice. That is their move. They always do that. So a quick bowl and then we go to the movie and then I was like, hey, there was this bar just opened up next to the theater. And I was like, yo, should we go in and just chat? And they were like, no. And I was like, yes, we are going in. And they didn't want to drink, which is fine. But we went in and I made them sit there. Well, I had one drink and they sat there just so we could talk about the movie. Because I was like, did you literally want me to just go home? Yeah. And be like, thanks. Because it's bizarre. You have to. Dude, I'll stand in a parking garage for an hour. A post movie just opened it up. I've done that in the foyer of the theater, like at the door right before we leave. We need to start doing more. Dude, how do we make that more, what? There should be an area. There should be a discussion area. Well, I was right about to say all of these theaters now have these great bar and lounge areas. We should start doing that more. I don't know why we. I have a shout out my friend, Alan. He is an amazing actor here in LA. He's the best guy. And we would go to movies a lot. And we would always go to the AMC nearby him and get a drink before the movie. And I'm now thinking, I'm like, we should have done that after. Yeah. We should go or we should get a drink, go into the movie. And then after, sit at the bar in these theaters and have a drink, have a bite, and discuss the movie. We should plan on that. We need to start going to movies, movie times, that are 30 minutes to an hour earlier than we normally would. So we can then allocate that 30 minutes to an hour after for a quick bite or drink and chat about the movie. Yeah. I think I have two things to say about this. One, I believe the expression dinner in a movie is to blame. I believe that put in our minds that you have dinner than a movie, but it should in fact be movie and dinner. Would you like to do movie and dinner? We go to a movie, then we have dinner. And now the dinner is amazing. And then if you're on a first date or something and the conversation runs dry, you can talk about the movie. Perfect. I wouldn't even learn her name. We'd talk about the movie through dessert. And then I'd be like, OK, great, I got to go. And they'd be like, you're going to see her again? I'll go see who again. I don't remember who the fuck that was. This is also one of those things where it comes up. Whenever people, I talk to friends who are going on first dates and they're like, we're going to a movie, I'm like, that's the worst idea I've ever heard. It's a really bad idea. Can't even speak unless you use something after. OK. And then here's my other idea. Sean, wouldn't it be sick if every movie theater from now on, I guess some are big? I just want to say I love how this started because we were talking about American football. Every movie theater from now on should have a lounge. Yeah. You have to have the equal number of lounges as you have screens. And each lounge has the name of the movie above it. So it's like a Reddit thing in IRL. Like you come in with your group and you're talking about the movie, but everyone else in there is also talking about it. So you can join conversations. You can keep to yourself if you want, but there will be no spoilers because only people having snacks and drinks in there are the ones who have seen that movie. That's an incredible idea. Wouldn't that be fucking awesome? Interesting. Oh, or how about this? I got it. Trailers are what, 25 minutes long now? Yeah. I think so. What if we cut the trailers back down to you play three trailers? So it's nine minutes. Maybe. And then at the end of the screening, so we're not cutting into new movie times, the lights come on and you're encouraged to stay in the theater for 15 minutes and chat with everyone who is in there about the movie. Is that not enough time? You're locked in. You don't have to see that. Have you ever gone to a test screening? That's what it's like. Yes, that is what I'm saying. Yeah. That's great. I love it. I always stay behind at test screenings to talk shit. Dude, isn't that hilarious? Sean, I always go like this. This is my normal movie experience. I arrive. I get that this is more information people need, but this is actually my 100% movie experience. I arrive at the theater. I go to concessions. I always load up, get myself a pop and some candy popcorn. And then I go into the theater and then I spend literally almost the entire trailer section like this covering my ears and humming because I hate seeing trailers of movies I'm excited to see and I don't want to have anything spoiled for me. Chris, why don't you just go in after the trailer's end? I don't know. I go in there and make a fool of myself. There's an anxiety of going too late and then there's like when you go too early, you're like, Because I don't know. I don't be like getting people's way. So I literally sit there and like hum and don't watch a single trailer. And then Dan or somebody will hit me to be like the movie starting. Then I will watch the movie. Then I will leave the movie and stand in the parking garage or sometimes the lobby of concessions or whatever, but stand somewhere with my group for like an hour, making fun of everything that happened in the movie. Like every single thing that bothered me, I just completely trash on. And then I go, all right, gotta go. I absolutely loved that movie. It's one of my favorite movies ever made. Literally, I'm like that movie was walking tremendous. Here's an hour of everything I hated about it. And genuinely, I loved it. And I'm not even being like, because I'm trying to be critical, it's just fun. You know, I'm like, this is ridiculous. That was stupid. But then I'm like, that was the best time ever. I mean, the most, like I grew up in an era, I was by a teenager in an era where like online video reviews of like movies were popular. And the most popular videos were always like the so bad they're good genre. I think people just love dogging on the things in movies that don't make any sense. Cause when you put any movie underneath a microscope comparing it to real life, like of course, nothing's gonna make sense with it. And that's just like such a low hanging fruit to make fun of and then thus create camaraderie with people who've also shared that experience. We're like, yeah, that was really dumb. But you enjoyed the experience of seeing the film. It's amazing. There's, I sometimes, even when we're writing stuff, I get too literal with the plot to offer. Like sometimes I'll be finding plot holes in our own things where I'm like, oh man, I'm trying to think about how bad traffic would be at that hour. I don't know if he can make it there in time. And it's like, who gives a flying fuck? I'm trying to think of an example. Like Harry Potter. How are the Weasleys poor? Daddy works in the government. Molly Weasley has magic doing all the house chores. She's a stay at home mom who's has magic doing all the work. So she's just doing nothing all day. Then why have a house when you can go to Target buy a 10 for $15 and turn it into a mansion on the inside? How does the economy in this place work? Also objectively, Voldemort is a terrible villain. I love Voldemort on screen. I love watching him. The US military could defeat the Wizarding World in like a day. There is no avada cadavering your way out of an intercontinental ballistic missile. And the fact that Voldemort thinks that the Wizards are superior to the human world, despite the fact that they've been technologically stagnant, they're running on steam trains and broomsticks. Have you seen an F-16 flying? And there's no broomstick going supersonic. So I love dogging on all this shit. And it's like you can pick any movie. And once you start actually thinking about it from like, instead of the viewer, if you were to person making this, these are the things that I would get hung up on. It's a lot of fun. But also everyone I know who I do this with is just like, I love Harry Potter. You can't talk bad about it. Harry Potter won't ruin this for me. I was about to go to war with you over Molly Weasley. I was like, don't fucking talk bad about Molly Weasley. Sean, there's a scene in one of the first books. I think it must be the first one where they go. Harry gets a look in Arthur Weasley's vault at Gringots. And there's one galleon in it. That's what's the description. It says there's one galleon in there. And I'm like, isn't that like a hundred bucks? Like literally there's one. The monetary value of a galleon gets lost a lot in those books because of that scene. I'm like, dude, he has seven kids. Like what is going on? How is there food on the table? They say that. There's a time where Harry's buying school supplies for just him. And it's like 17 gallons. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I love those movies. But there's so many glaring issues with them. I love how we're saying that. We're not talking about magic. No, I don't think that. Like, here's the glaring issue. Everything's magic. I can suspend my disbelief for magic. But the moment I'm just like, yeah, no, this financial system makes no sense. OK, let's jump into a beer league hotline and try to get things back on the rails here. OK, let's do it. We had the early game last week and a guy on our team emailed that he was bringing beers and asked us all to please make time to stay after for a couple. We didn't think anything of it. We get pumped nine to one, but everyone gets in the locker room and cracks a beer with this dude. Then he steps outside and comes back in with his girlfriend. Then in half his gear still gets down on one knee and proposes. She says yes. Everyone claps. Turned into a pretty fun night. But can you ask your old lady to marry you after getting destroyed nine to one with your skates on? Absolutely. I love this. I love this. I think I would cry. I think I would cry if we're on the team. And you know what? Hand up. We are so many reasons why I am a little bitch. But I don't always drink beers after the game. I'm in my zone during the week where I'm like, I don't drink during the week. I'm trying to stay fit and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, whatever, whatever. If someone on the team emailed before the game and was like, hey, please stay after and have a couple beers, I would be ready to Uber to the game. Really? 100% no. He was just like, have a beer after. If he made it, it sounds like he made a point to be like, can everyone please stay? Yeah. I would probably Uber to the game. Because I'd be like, this guy's going through something. Or maybe it's his last game ever. I would be like 100% I'm having beers. And if we had a few and it was like, oh yeah, we just got pumped, but whatever. We're having fun, we're together. And it seems like this guy needs this. And then all of a sudden he comes in and proposes to his girlfriend in half gear. I think I would cry. Dude, I. That would be unbelievable. We'll see. The reason I'm partially on his side is because you can't have the nerves. Clearly this was the plan. The ring was in his fucking bag or something. I just don't think you can have invited her to the game, sent that email and then not go through with it because of the result of the game. I think you'd have to be like, this is too much for my emotional state. I was so hyped up to propose. I was thinking about it all game. I probably turned the puck over 50 fucking times. Cause all I was thinking about was the $40,000 ring in my hockey bag in the fucking unlocked locker room. Nice room. This guy's got a nice ring. 40K, god damn. But it is, I would be bummed. Put it that way. I'd still do it, but I would be bummed that we got murdered. I wonder if this is the same locker room as the shower room thief. Can you imagine that guy's going through just looking for a couple of 20s in a big wall? He's like, oh my god. You can't leave that in the locker room. Right where was it? No, he had it on him. Sean, I'm so glad you said that. What a great pivot. That is actually the biggest thing about this beer league hotline. You better not have left that ring in the locker room. It must have been. Maybe you'd do the key. Maybe you're like, I'll lock up. The move is you take really dirty, horrible, smelly underwear and you wrap it up in that. You put it in the bag. Sean goes, ooh. I still, I don't think I would. She's like, oh, this is real. I'm like, what the fuck? I think I would have brought it onto the bench. Yeah, maybe. Ooh, interesting. Yeah. Actually, that would have been. You cannot, under any circumstances, leave an engagement ring in the locker room. We got to get a follow up because it would be sick. I don't know if the boys knew. Sounds like they guessed they didn't. But it would have been sick if you brought it onto the bench. Because everybody's like, the fuck is that? And you're like, I'm actually proposing after the game. You know, so if it were on the bench, everybody would be like, oh my God. You've got to imagine it would have hyped up the boys to play a little bit better. A little bit better than the 9-1 pump job. Or it might have done the opposite where everyone's just anticipating it. That's what I'm saying. That's what happened. I think in this guy's head, he thought it was going to be like, you know, who were like seconds away from the whistle. He's beyond the halfway point. He takes a shot, scores the game, winning goal. And then on the ice, everyone storms, everyone claps. He gets down on one knee and proposes. And in reality, he just got absolutely destroyed. Yeah. I think I'll be scored. I hope it was him. I think I hope he had the one. Yeah. That would be sick. I do think it's beer league. The score doesn't matter. Yep. The second you get into the locker room and you're gassing beers, you forget about the score and you're like, whatever. OK, here's another thought. Also, 9-1 is so bad that it's almost like whatever. Yeah. It's like, if you lose like a shitty game, 6-3, and you don't think you played. I mean, if you lose a 9-1, you guys play bad. Yeah. Kind of like whatever. And it's a good test, because the fact that she said yes, despite the fact that he's destroyed, she's not in it for the winner. She's in it for him. Here's the other thing, or I guess a couple things. If you're a bad team, you're playing a good team, you know you're going to get Pup 9-1. And in that case, I'm like, why did you invite her to this game? But maybe it was because it was the early game and you have to have her at the early game. If it was not a great team, like if that was a, if that loss was a surprise, that sucks, because you're like, wait, we shouldn't have got killed 9-1. And I invited her because I thought we were going to win because we were playing something shitty and we got murdered. It has to be time. It has to be time. But my other thing is, I think I might have showered. Like I might have, everyone's staying. I've asked the boys to stay. I might have been like, boom, quick shower, change quick. Usually I lingered in my gear. Quick change, boom, shower. I don't care if everyone else has showered, but quick change, shower for me, wave her back in. Yeah. She must like the funk. And she likes that the ring smells like dirty underwear. That's what it's on. That's crazy. You take her toes off. No, I think. Got to be careful. I think my favorite thing about this is how much of a fucking rock star this gal is. First of all, I've said it so many times, if you are a wag and you come to Beer League games, you have the most special place in the Hall of Fame ever. As much as we love Beer League, I know it's not the best hockey. It's not the most fun. They're terrible hours. But to be there, to be a partner coming to Beer League games, you are so fucking right or die. You are so awesome. And then you got to be pretty confident that your partner is saying yes if you're proposing in the Beer League locker room. Can you? So that even adds more to the fact that she's just the coolest fucking person ever. And no in the locker room would have been. Well, it's maybe not even so much that. That would be insane. You got to know that she's not going to be pissed off. She's proposed to me in your beer league locker room. You got to be like sweats at the rink. You know, you got to be pretty confident that she's like, fuck you, let's do this. So that's awesome. I want to pick the picks. Must be gas. Oh, it'd be incredible. Well, that's it's also like a much better story. If you won the game and then you propose, it's like that's like no one's particularly interested in that. It's such a funnier story to be like, yeah, we had a horrendous game. It was terrible because people will ask being like, oh, I do win the game. Like, no, we got demolished. That's such a better, funnier story. Got it. So true. Then we got ripped in the parking lot together. Yeah, yeah. Like sick. Oh, my God. Incredible. All right, let's end things off with a Bauer blind ranking. Again, Bauer is just the greatest thing in the entire world. Blind blind rankings are also the greatest thing in the entire world. We got the stadium series coming up where, you know, there's going to be Bauer Gear galore pulses are going to be snapping it around on the ice and Tampa. Let's do stadium series jerseys blind ranking. Sean, take us away. The 2024 Rangers. One. One. Oh, my God. I think that I think this jersey is fucking awesome. I said it when the stadium series came out a couple of years ago. I was like, easily they knocked it out of the park. They did that sick photo shoot in like the subway. It's the end. I love the classic diagonal that it's it's a very rangers thing. They're diagonal Rangers. New York on some of the new ones and the big NYR. I think the jersey sleeves were perfect. It's it's it's hard to get a white specialty jersey. I know. Looking. Yeah, that's a fair take. And I thought they because they kept the cool block raised lettering on the number. That's what I don't like about their current jerseys. Yeah, these new ones. They're they're whatever they are. They're anniversary jerseys. They look like beer league jerseys because the letters are it's just like screen print, simple letters. These ones kept the famous New York blocked raised lettering. I think this is it's one for me. But this is interesting because normally, you know, when we're disagreeing, it's usually because we're a couple off. I don't I was like, I don't like this one that much. And then you're a one. I think they're so. But when I'm thinking about I'm also a hot take. Stadium series jerseys aren't that kind of thing. They they they historically are not that great. That's what is actually swung me back to being like, OK, maybe I can go pretty high because I do love the sleeves. I love the sleeves. I just I didn't think I liked the the huge letters like that. But. How low would you go to do? Do you know what you go look through all of them there? Because here's the thing. There's a there's a few that might pop up here. They're not unique enough for me. Like stadium series and winter classic. You got to get funky. And there are a couple that come to mind where I'm like, yeah, it's cool jersey. You didn't do anything different. Mm hmm. And I mean, OK, I will not go lower than two. Then give me two. I'll give me to crazy work by you. Fine. I can't believe that you even think there's one that you're so confident is above it. I know you I know you can't. I know you don't think any of them are great. There's one that I think is better. But but we can go one. I think we should go one. It's fun going one off the rim. Yeah. OK. One. Boom. Yeah. Twenty twenty Kings. Probably five for me. Really? I think this jersey sucks. Why? It's like it's so dumb. It's just the black and the white. This is he's sick. Like there are some so much worse than this. I will give you that there are some that are worse. And at least this one is different. They tried something but like just like the L.A. with like streaks in it. But it's big block letters diagonal across the shirt. Just like that's not diagonal across the shirt. It's slightly slanted. It just says L.A. on the front. It's not big like block letters means there's if there's two colors in it. It's raised lettering. This is just a flat L.A. Across the chest with straight. Oh look how fast L.A. looks. These jerseys. This is who's he's sick. It's like these jerseys. Block letters. These are block letters. They're not you don't need a shadow box to make it. Well the point I was making about why the Rangers won. I kept saying raised. You don't. Yeah. They're raised. These are just like every letter you're going to see is block lettering on a fucking jersey for the most part. So you like the Rangers just so much because it was raised. No there's I for all of the reasons I listed. If they those ones are great. I look what are you on earth. You like about this L.A. Jersey because it's fast as fuck. Look how fast L.A. looks so fast. They're fast. It looks like fucking ice. It's cool. It's new. It's I love the the diagonal that it goes across into the arms. I think that is fucking sick. The white and the black hard contrast. Does look so dope. The so wait where are we where are we settled with it. I won't go higher than three but do what you will. You gave me one so you get to pick literally whatever you want in this but you cannot pick fucking two. What would you if you had final say where would you put it. Four or five. Four or five. I agree that there are some they're awful. They're I don't know that there are ones that are that much worse. This one is just boring. They had the chrome dome that's nice and the white gloves kind of nice. Let's go. Let's go for OK. I'm happy with that. I appreciate that. All right. Settled in for 2018 leaves. OK. I love this Jersey. This Jersey is horrific. OK. One of the worst things I've ever seen a professional athlete wear. I think the Jersey looks cool. I think the Maple Leaf looks awesome on the front. I don't think it's very different. It's it all it's not different at all. All they did was take their current Jersey and make it worse. They're like what if we took our exact Jersey and then didn't change anything except make it worse. Well they went white gloves and white pants. I think that's the big thing like they did a full white out. Yep. And the stripes in the middle are way different. It's just you you know usually just a white Jersey. Yep. So for that I mean are you prepared to go five. I wish I had gone Kings three now because this this is this is way worse than the Kings Jersey and there are ones way worse than this. God you've got strong opinions on how bad some of these jerseys are. So but now I guess because out of protection I might have to go three. Interesting because there if something else comes up that is so bad. Then I would be mad that five wasn't available. Yeah. Because I hear you at least there's like a full white out here. You like that leaf logo. It's the Toronto Maple Leafs logo. Yes it's fantastic. It's very classic. Yeah. Yeah Toronto Maple Leafs logo is a top three logo in the NHL. So yes I do like it. OK. Let's what would you where would you want this. I would probably go three. OK let's go three. OK. So we've got two and five left. Twenty twenty two Tampa. We have to go five. Yeah you hate this one. Yep this jersey is also horrible. But we have to go five because I can't go two. But this doesn't deserve to be five. The Leafs jersey is the King's jersey is better than this. I'm surprised you think the King's jersey is so significantly better than this. They're they feel like very similar vibes. They are similar vibes. I guess I think it's cool that it's like a lightning design across the bottom. Yep. Like that's shades of a lightning bolt on the bottom. I love that they have the lightning logo on the pants. That's pretty cool. Like do you like the lightning jersey this year more than this. No I'm the lightning jersey this year confuses me like it's very it feels very chatgy PT like the ice blue. It was a weird choice to me. But they're fun. Yeah I mean they're close to the fucking Rangers jersey. Yeah. Not raised though not raised. I mean I think would you go to here. No. Yeah I think you have to go five just because of the grave we've dug. I don't think this is that bad of a list again. This is the problem like I don't love any of these jerseys other than the Rangers. King's jersey is incredible. OK this year's East five OK five. Twenty three caps. I'm again I'm not what I'm starting to realize is I don't think any of these are spectacular so I'm not like I'm not moved one way or the other. This jersey you hate this one. Well no this jersey actually based on the way this list went I don't mind being to because there was a cool like the Capitol building and the eagle like they did some cool things the Capitol building and the eagle on the front is cool being a W the stars on the pants are really cool. Eagle is a W also the helmets with the numbers on the side. Oh yeah yeah yeah. So so I'm actually OK with this being to OK. Sweet. So it's rags caps and then what got three by accident. Maple leaves the maple leaves. Yeah. You can easy dude. Puke. What's your favorite one ever. I jet the Rangers. But the Columbus Blue Jackets last year were sick. The cannon on the front. So sick. Those are probably number one. Now if I if I could do this again out of fear of that being named I might have said Rangers too. That Blue Jackets one was awesome. The Detroit 2016. Very cool. Gas. I actually you're going to say it's too similar but the 2019 penguins gas. It is too similar for me. The helmets though are cool. But yeah like it just to me those feel like a color rush jersey more than they do a stadium series jersey. Same with the Devils. The Devils is awful. 2024 and the Devils just went they were like yeah we're just doing it. There's just black in a jersey more. Do you like the Bruins one this year. I think it's I think both the Bruins and the Bulls this year went very bright and flashy for purposes of a game in Tampa. Yeah. So I'm like cool. It is weird though. Yeah. It's really yellow. The white gloves are a choice but I think they're fun. Yep. They're both fun. They're kind of kooky. OK. Not bad. Not bad. Great stuff today folks. Hey we absolutely love you. Sight for a big week. We're heading into some fun fun stuff. We got Olympics coming up. We got some fun interviews coming up. Just beautiful things across the board. Can't wait to get into it with you. Fucking just absolutely adore you guys. It's amazing. Let's have a great fucking week. And until we see you next episode there's only one thing to do. Skate hard.