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Hey everybody, welcome back to the find out podcast. No guests today. You've got Tim, Rich, Zach and Luke. And we are going to dive into the big race that happened. We're recording Wednesday. So happened last night, Tuesday night in Texas. Ken Paxton completely obliterated John Cornyn in the runoff there by it looks like it was a 63.8% to 32.36.2%, which is about 20 27 points. Yeah, fucking brutal. And he was the sitting senator and he is now gone. So guys, I have to think that James Tallarico has a giant shit eating grin on his face this morning that he can gets to face Ken Paxton instead of John Cornyn. Yeah, I think that's probably true. I mean, he was winning against both of these guys in the polls. So I think for him, it was probably the lesser of two evils though. You know, it's Ken Paxton's the giant slimy piece of shit. You know, it's that I was thinking about making a video this morning about this and like, that works for Trump really well for some reason, but like nobody else. So that's why I think it's like a huge win for Tallarico. Yeah, I agree. Well, there was a there was a it this I'll be interested to get your takes on this because some people lost their minds over this. But Tallarico put out a message last night basically saying that there is a place for Cornyn voters. I saw this in his in his in his campaign. Mm hmm. Obviously, some leftist liberals were not super pleased with that, but it's Texas and I would love to hear what you guys think about that sort of strategy. I know what Luke's I'm going to start with Zach because I know what you're going to say. I love it. I think it's fantastic. I mean, look, I saw videos of guys who were literally going into vote for Cornyn who are Republican saying Trump is ruining our party like they're there very much in this realm of like, fuck this guy, I'm done with him. So I think like it on a broad level, why would we say no? Why would we say no to any vote for us at this point? Like I understand the moral challenge with bringing Republicans in whatever but like, who cares? You know, let's use every single vote we can if we only get them once, let's take them once rather than zero times. Like that's I just want to win. That's how you win, you know, it doesn't mean change our like, I think like the challenge we have on the left with it is a lot of people go or changing our morals for it, change our platform for it. No, keep the platform exactly the same. Just be like, well, hey, this platform might work for you. So let me show you how that might work. I don't think you have to be a different candidate or a different party. You just have to figure out ways to sell what you want to do to these people, right? You know, yeah, I totally agree. My reaction to this was like, let me go and unpack why Trump hated Cornyn in the first place because like, he must, it must have been really bad. Like he voted to convict or after January 6 or something. It must have been really bad for for Ken for him to flip on the number two ranking senator in the Senate in the Republican side of the Senate. It was not it was because he voted to support gun reform after you've already which was a natural response to you've already in a natural response to school shootings. And he took too long to endorse Trump before the 2024 election. There it is. There it is. He took too long. He still did. He voted for him three times, but he took too long to endorse him. And that was all it took. And so then a guy who literally is claiming right now that he has three different primary residences so we can avoid paying the increased property taxes on his homes in Texas, which is Ken Paxton, like some other rental properties across the country. Let a child rape escape with one day in prison. Yeah, so let's let's so this guy gets the endorsement. Right. So he gets that's all it takes, which means there is no room left for sane people in the Republican Party. It's only like unquestioned loyalty to Trump. And then everybody else. And and that means like we have to either have a bigger tent to to pull them in and like, yeah, as I to your point, we're not changing our platform to accommodate them. We're just saying, hey, if you want to be one of the sane people, you belong over here for now. Maybe you guys can save yourselves after Trump. But yeah, we've got to find a way to to claim some of those votes because this is an opportunity that we might not see for 20 more years in Texas. Yeah. So Luke, as probably our person most of the left. What do you think? I hate John Cornyn. I hate John Cornyn voters percent. Tallorico saying what he did 100% correct. And if you can't see that, you don't want to win. Like just you don't want to win. If you wanted Tallorico to come out and say, yeah, fuck John Cornyn, fuck John Cornyn voters, fuck all you guys. You guys are a bunch of maggot dumbasses. Like congratulations, you don't want to win Texas. You don't want to flip the Senate. Yep. Sometimes being right and being and winning. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. I hate them with the burning passion of a thousand sons. They have enabled Trump to do everything he's done up until this point. John Cornyn plays a fucking role in all of this. Yes. And yet I still don't want it to keep going at just because I hate them that much. Yep. And I think we're going to make it four for four. You know, me as being in the political world, like I like to win, as Zach was saying. And the reality of Texas and we have talked about Texas turning blue for 20 years now. It's the next election. Oh, it's just the next election. Yep. And then those races are five 10 points. I know Beto came within was less than three points. Like three points. Yeah. Ted Cruz 2.8 2.7 something like that. And tell her was an established senator. Ted Cruz was right in the city. Senator also didn't wasn't. I mean, look, I hate Ted Cruz. He is a terrible human being. Everyone can person. Ken Paxton is worse. Oh, yeah, significantly worse. And Ted Cruz is like slimy in the way that like, I don't think he's actually like, I think some of his positions, he's just he's just cosplaying as a conservative, which is just as bad as believing it. It may be even worse. But but Ken Paxton was impeached by the Texas legislature, which has a super the Republicans, I believe, have a super majority. Yeah, they impeached him. And as Luke was saying, he his office cut a plea deal with a child rapist. And he got, I think it was a day in jail or 30 days. And then a judge up to 60 days doubled it to the whopping two months. Oh, wow. And that guy is already free. And Cornyn was hitting him on it. I mean, that is like that one right alone is ripe for tell Rico to exploit or take advantage of the weakness he'll have with moderates and some right leaning independence. And I think the message is essentially like, do you want to stop the corruption? Do you want democracy? Come with us? Because we're the only ones that are going to stop this, you don't that, you know, tell Rico doesn't have to be like, I'm pro death penalty, and I'm anti choice. He just has to tell them like, look, we can stop this. And like, if you elect somebody as insane as can Paxton, they're never going to come back to the middle, right? So if you send a message that that's too far, the next time around, you probably get a more moderate candidate. So I think if he can pull 5% of them, 10% of them, and then the rest stay home, that might be enough. Yeah, I agree. I think he can too. Like the, I think tell Rico's greatest strength is talking to people who don't agree with them. That's that's the, to me, like that's what makes him so special as a candidate. Like most candidates can't do that very well. Like that's usually their biggest problem is like, great at talking to their base, people in the middle are like, and people on the other side are like, go fuck yourself. But tell Rico walks into a room and goes, give me a second, and he somehow gives it, you know, brings everybody and people still probably walk away who don't agree with them, not agreeing with them, but they'll be like, that guy's okay. And that's exactly what you want. They're not going to come vote against him out of rage or out of spite or out of fear. Exactly. You know, Obama had that and Pete Buttigieg had that. Has that 100% there are very, very few and Bill Clinton had that. Al Gore did not have that. John Kerry did not have that. Joe Biden had that with certain groups of people like with the working class people, he could come and shoot the shit with regular people. But but he was still sort of your, you know, Catholic East Coast, North, you know, New England elite, liberal type to a lot of the people in like Texas, but you get an Obama or a Clinton or a Talerico or a Buttigieg on Fox News, like they don't get, there's no hot seat, they just talk and people will, I don't like all of their positions, but you know, I guess they're not like the worst. And sometimes that's the best you can get 100%. And also the Christian factor is huge in this, the fact that this guy is so embedded in that culture. And in Texas, that's incredibly valuable. It's just it's feels like he can understand what it's like to be a Texan and still be a pretty progressive Democrat. That's a weird combination. And I think that's what's going to set him up to win. Well, his his his Christianity is basically unimpeachable, right? It was a seminary. So like he like it's hard. I mean, I know that I saw this thing, they were trying to attack him as being like a vegan or something. He says he's a vegan, because he didn't know how to pronounce it. And he but I assume he is not a vegan. No, he's not. He's like eating an orbiter. You guys are supposed to attack. He's a vegan. He believes in six genders and he thinks God is nine, but non binary. Yeah, so I got that. I submit the video I'm making this morning has a clip of Paxton and his speech, I think right after he won and he used six, it's called him six gender Jimmy was one of the names low tea, tellerico. And then oh yeah, one of the ones that was vegan one, I can't remember what it was, but they're all these fucking names where you're just like, all right, they're good, they're good names. But these are like this is Trump. You're 13, right? You know, right? Like it only works for Trump and like, I just think it's it's telling that they're worried because they're using that stuff, right? And they can't hit what are they got? I mean, like, what are they going to hit him on? Right, the economy? No, well, using the minority in the in the Texas Senate, not his fault. Like, there's nothing to hit him on. And I think like they know that he is frankly kind of a for lack of a better word, square white guy, yeah, that isn't it's very obvious he's not like some like I live in New York City, he is not a New York City liberal. No, he is not Zora Mendani in his positions. He but like, I just they don't have anything to hit him on. So they're going to like, they're going to try to make him as feminine as possible. Yes. Right. And that is going to be how they try to turn off conservatives from either staying home, or, or coming out and voting for Paxton by like basically saying this like a feminine guy is going to create six genders and God is now non binary, which I don't know how you can. I don't know that. I like nuts. But I think, unfortunately, it's the right approach. If I'm a Republican strategist, a thousand percent, yeah, I'm doing, you know, like it's it's it could work like that's the scary part is that, you know, so much of voting in Texas is based on like maintaining the Texas they have the pride of Texas, right, that going like, Hey, this essentially going this guy's a bitch, you don't want a bitch, right? Like that's really what it is. Like, yes, that's that's the whole approach. And like that might work. Unfortunately, you guys hear Tellerico's response to the vegan claim, though. What do you say? No. He said, I've been eating barbecue since before Ken Paxton's first indictment. That's good. That's good. They can't handle a smooth talking guy who's witty, who can crack back like that. That's that's going to be like Kamala Harris. I think she had that for the like the liberal elites, like the academic elites, like we we all spoke the same language, right? But but James Tellerico, what is it? I think he's like a sixth generation, generation Texan. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's a good old boy. He's just he's just on the left. And they are they're not going to know what to do with that, especially when you've got Ken Paxton, who looks like a walking billboard for Viagra. And and he's trying to come at a 37 year old, 37 year old, you know, well spoken, handsome young man, I mean, like it's it's everything he does is going to backfire. And that wasn't the case with, you know, Trump and Clinton, we're both kind of old, Trump and Biden, we're both really old. And, you know, and Kamala Harris, you know, we don't need to unpack the obituary or the the what do they call it, the post mortem. Yeah, they are a lot more, a lot more things working against us, you know, than just appearance. No, it's it's they're set up. The only thing they're that's working against them is the institution that they're up against. That's it. You know, Texas is a fucking institution that's very red. But, you know, I think lucky's winning in every most recent poll or tide. Yeah, it's a it's a very good start. Let's put it that way. So, because I think the one thing that we haven't talked about is the Latino vote in Texas. And I was just doing some quick research and to refresh the numbers, but Texas public opinion research did a poll in late April. So about a month ago. And Tallarico led John Cornyn by three points, he led Ken Paxton by five points. But in that poll, Latino voters, let me pull up the number, but it was like 20, 25 or Latino voters, Tallarico leads Cornyn by a 32 point point margin and Paxton by 27 point margin. So Paxton outperformed, but still basically two to one. And independence, Tallarico's up 51 to 29 against Cornyn and 53 to 28 against Paxton with independence. So, oh, and by the way, our guy Garcia, he won. He did. Last night. That was nice. Johnny Latino voters, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on Texas, Texas, Texas and Latino voters. But from what I can see in the data, you know, they are obviously a little more socially conservative, they're more religious. They're a little more traditional, more loyal. And I think all of those things in this case actually support Tallarico because there's not going to be an incumbent on the ballot. And so even though we were already looking at a wave election for Latino voters, I think it's going to be even worse for Republicans without pouring on the ballot. For sure. And Paxton's also not that smooth. Like to deliver this shit message that they have, you got to feel like the bully nobody can fuck with. And he does not feel that way. He feels like a slighted used car salesman who had a fight with his wife the previous night. Like he just feels like a piece of shit. And like that doesn't work. Yeah. I mean, if you look, there were 20 indictments in the impeachment here, which were all based on the fact that there were whistleblower complaints about Ken Paxton in his office, which he then went to the Texas legislature. I was like, Oh, hey, can I have a 3.3 million more dollars? And I'm not going to tell you why. And they were like, what? And then they figured out it was based on his own behavior. Then during this, he accused the speaker of the house in Texas House, a Republican, by the way, of being drunk while overseeing the house votes. Then it came out that he was having an extra marital affair, which he's Mr. Christian man for kids. His wife did leave him two years ago. Good for her. And like all of it's like about embezzlement and all of this. And then he was like, this is a witch hunt by Democratic lawyers. And again, again, the Republicans have a super majority in the House and in the Senate in Texas. And then they went and looked at the attorneys and some of them had given money to Democrats, but they as a whole gave like exponentially more to Republicans. So like he just like did the whole Trump playbook, but against his own party. So like these people don't like him. Like he's not going to get a lot of help from the legislature or any of that. And I can't imagine that Governor Abbott is going to want to campaign in lockstep with him because he's got his own fight on his hands. Because he is also a shitty elected representative. But Ken Paxton is just nobody likes him, which I guess is like Trump. Except Trump. Anybody close hates his guts. Yeah, Trump like there are no coattails to be had in Texas. And it's also like what the second, third most expensive state in the country, maybe the most expensive to run a campaign. So you look at like I was just like a Talerico got a hold in 600,000 and donations in the first in the two hours after the Ken Paxton primary went back two hours of his campaign and their internal polling. This was shared with Politico. Their internal polling shows that he's got a seven point lead on Paxton right now. So you know, it's not in Paxton is intensely unpopular among Texas Republicans among the broader Republican Party. John Thune hates him. This is going to cost them an estimated 200 to 250 million dollars now to defend his seat, where they were expecting to only spend about 100 million 50 to 100 million to defend Cornyn. So this makes the Republican machine have to live their worst nightmare. And and Cornyn was also really popular. And so who's going to come out? Is Trump going to come in campaign for Paxton? And then his name won't be on the ballot. Everybody's just going to have to Paxton is the name that needs to carry the ballot right now in Texas. It's a perfect storm because first of all, they did the gerrymandering, which has infuriated black and brown people in Texas as it should because it took power away from them. Yeah, so they're they're going to vote. And they as we know, they stole five seats. But like some of these are now single digit Republican advantages, which we have seen Democrats double digit overperforming across the country. You know, even even if James Tolerico doesn't win, let's say he comes within one point, I bet he pulls a house seat or two over the finish line because he's at the top of the ticket. And that's why that matters. People are like, Oh, I don't know if these people can win. And, you know, there or Iowa or Ohio or whatever. It's like, yeah, but like if you have someone at the top of the ticket overperforming, they can help us in other ways, whether it's in the house or in the state level. And I think Iowa is a perfect example of that too. Yeah, I think the state level is going to be, I mean, we should do probably several whole episodes about state legislatures because there are Republican super majorities all over the place where they don't even deserve. They don't even they haven't even earned it like Wisconsin. They had a Republican super majority for a long time. That's how they got the right to work bullshit through. That's how they got Scott Walker's agenda all forced down. Everybody's throw it. And that's why Wisconsin is now is now struggling. Having people like Tolerico and having people like Paxton on the ballots are going to help break Republican super majorities everywhere, which is going to mean when we redistrict in 20 after 2030. Republicans are going to have a lot more trouble forcing through the kinds of maps that we're seeing them force through right now, which are the product of 15 years of fighting at the state legislative level. So yes, 100% agree. Tolerico is going to is going to pay dividends and all sorts of ways that we haven't even explored yet. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I mean, I think like the money thing is really important too, because they're actually so they're going to have to play defense in Texas. Yeah. Already talking about potentially a quarter billion dollars there. They're going to have to defend in Iowa, where there are strong Democrats up and down the ticket there. Sherrod Brown is running in Ohio. They're going to have to at least pay attention to that race. Alaska, Mary Patola has been leading in every poll. Like they're going to have I mean, that's not an expensive media market, but they're going to have to spend millions of dollars there. We already know Maine, North Carolina, these are all defense. None of this is offense at all. They don't have offense. No, I think awesome is like awesome. That's that's their best chance is a guy who in a in a in a in a wave year like New Hampshire to New Hampshire. But that's an open seat, right? Well, yeah, Gene Shaheen retire and so it's Chris Pappas on the Democratic side. And I think did the government to do or whatever I think is I think Pappas has been I mean, this New England like in a bad year for Republicans. I'm not like as worried if it's Sununu had run two years ago against Maggie Hassan, it would have been a harder race. But but he's also gone full magas. So like his whole appeal is kind of wash it away. So yeah, there is no offense. There are some house races, I think that they may think that they've got some advantages. Maine's second district is one. But but in the Senate, nothing. Yep, nothing. It's a real market. Yeah, it's almost as if coming in and doing literally the opposite of everything you should be doing is a bad midterm campaign strategy. I don't know. I'm liking it. I'm deeply appreciative. Oh, I think it's great. I mean, the better minus the pain that it's causing people. But yeah, you know, I think people are like are stuck because I was I've been saying this for the whole time, you know, like I want it to be terrible. And I think in the beginning people are what's going to hurt people in other like who gives a shit, like we need this to be a throttle and situation. And the only way that's going to work is if shit keeps getting worse, you know, people have to feel how bad it is. Like I because I think so much of politics is theoretical to people. And it's like, you got to feel it if you want people to change their mind. They can't fight theoretics with theoretics, you have to fight theoretics with reality. And that's unfortunately going to hurt a lot of people. But those people will then never forget the hurt. And they'll probably never vote for somebody like Trump again. If they literally went from like, I voted for Trump to fuck this guy. That's a tough thing to swing back from, you know, America is hosting the World Cup. And let's be honest, it's not quite the same. The goalie has just been ejected and given away a PK that could send it to overtime. What's this guy on about? But one thing that's universally understood is free. Have a completely free shot at cash prices every day of the tournament with Paddy Power's new free to play game cash cup 750k to be won across the tournament. Nobody does football better than us. Paddy Power win at the game, receive a selection. If the selection wins, you win a share of the daily cash prize, only one entry per round eligibility restrictions and further teasing season apply 18 plus Gambleware.org. I mean, I think this is what happened to us millennials. After after Bush, I mean, there I remember the early 2000s, like things were pretty good. And so a lot of people were like, Oh, Bush isn't that bad. Like he's kind of a good guy, you know, I could have a beer with him. He's a cowboy. He's a good old boy. And then the recession hit. And then the war got really bad. And then the housing bubble went so ape shit. I remember it was like 2006, the average house in the United States was like $250,000, which at the time was an absolutely unfathomable price. This is like 20 years ago now. And and so then people started resenting him because it was you couldn't buy a house anywhere and the housing market was going ape shit. And then of course, then everything popped and everything failed. And then there were million jobs a month getting lost. And it was all because of George Bush. And now millennials are the most consistently progressive generation, because we got burned. It was like 9 11, one bad war, another bad war recession. And in 10 years, it's like never again. And millennials are like 6535, I think, like Democrat pretty consistently right now. So you're including including males. So it's almost as if we should not let Republicans be in control of the government because they break everything. Yeah, everything gets nice for like two years. And then we're like, let's give Republicans a try again. I know. And the Democrat comes in and fixes some stuff, not everything. And then it's like, oh, well, but prices are too high. Let's bring back those guys who fucking torpedoed everything 10 years ago. I mean, like, there is like very little that you could look at in George Bush's presidency and be like, more of that, please, right? More of that. Yep. Especially since he inherited surpluses. And then he went massive tax cut for the rich. Oh, what happened six years later? Oh, we almost ended up in a depression. Yep. It's not great. But people like it's Republicans are just such good marketers, man. That's really what comes down to I know, I know, they're so good at it. It's so annoying. I fucking hate it. If Democrats are even like 50% better than they currently are, they'd be fine. But like they have such a huge advantage. It's like it doesn't Democrats could literally be pitching like, hey, I'll just give you $100,000 each and the Republicans somehow to be like, they are just going to fuck you over. So like, and they'd be like, yeah, you're going to fuck me over with all this free money. Like they're just so good at it. It's amazing. They are the masters of getting low information voters on their side. Yeah, because they simplify. They're very simple simplification of messaging and Democrats need to be better at that. And basically be like, no more crime. And they're no more like, you know, 3,700 stock trades in the first quarter of this year by the president, which is insane astronomical that the grift it's and everything is just unbelievable. That's the reason why it's the reason why people are so averse to like taxing billionaires and taxing corporations, because they had the most effective marketing campaign ever around it being like, Hey, if you do this, jobs are going to fail the end. Like it's one sentence that we're going to lose jobs done. And everybody goes, Oh, well, shit, I don't want that then. And they just move on. Like we just need to adopt that like one sentence response to shit. And we're not doing it, which is so frustrating. Like we could be pressing so much harder right now. And we're all kind of like, I don't know, you know, are you a little risky? Zachary, you're saying that Democrats don't have the messaging down? Definitely saying that. Shocker, message me down. Shocker, which is so painful because like, it's just risk aversion. That's all it is. It all comes down to fear. And it's like, what are you afraid of? What the fuck are you afraid of? Just press. It's not hard to press, you know, and the ones who are pressing are winning. It's not all that like that's the thing. It's like institutionally, that's the problem. But there are individual Democrats who are not facing that problem. Like mom, Donnie, I keep going to mom, Donnie for shit, but he didn't have that problem. He pressed and he fucking crushed. It's the evidence is there, you know, and he hasn't let up. You know, like it's not like he got in there. He's like, now I'm going to pump the brakes. He's going, which is, which is right. Yeah. Also, like Democrat, like every time the minimum wage has been increased in this country, do you have any times it's caused job losses? Zero, zero. So like this, this notion that cutting taxes, trickle down economics is the way to flourish. We've done it like four times. It doesn't work. And so I don't know why a Democrat doesn't just come out and say, this shit doesn't work. Right. We've done it over and over and over again. Like maybe we should try the taxing the billionaires one, right? What do you think about that? The money that they'll never even notice is gone can help fund pre K or healthcare or climate adaptation or whatever, like they haven't drawn that line. That's the problem. Democrats as they just go, well, we should tax the rich is like, okay, for what and why and like, where are you going? Like, because the biggest problem Democrats have is they're essentially selling a bigger government and people are going, well, I don't like the government. The government has not been effective. And you're telling me that now it is. And it's a very difficult line to go like, sure, let me cross over and trust you now. So it's like, Democrats have to do again, what Montani did, which was be explicit about what he wants to do. Like you guys are suffering. I'm going to do this. Well, that's it. Yeah. It's selling the benefit and not the problem. Right. Exactly. You're selling the solution, not the how. Like nobody cares how the sausage is made. You don't want to fund science because you have to fund science. Like a handful of people will vote to just to fund science and fund health research. But what they're actually funding is cures and treatments and accessible medicine and affordable medicine. You have to sell on the benefit and not get hung up on the academic part. And that's where that's where the left has the most trouble. We don't we don't just say the simple message because we know how many layers of nuance and context there are that make that message like that are that are necessary for that message to become true. So we don't, you know, well, everybody deserves universal health care. Okay, you shouldn't have to pay anything for health insurance. A Democrat, a Democrat will rarely just say that and then leave it alone. They'll say, and I have got a 72 point plan that makes sure that it's deficit neutral. And then you spend the next six years arguing about three of those 72 points and whether or not they're deficit neutral. And like, and then you're talking about nerd shit. And regular people are like, wait, I thought I was I thought we were talking about me not paying for health insurance anymore. That's what they actually want to still talk about. We just have to not overthink it because regular voters are not thinking and they just frankly don't care at the level that Democrats do that the especially the insider policy types. Yeah, I mean, most people don't know. Go ahead, Jim. Hello. I mean, and if you look at I would argue two of the most successful Democrats in the past 20 years, there's Barack Obama, generational talent, and even Zorim Abdoni in his early spaces now, you know what those guys don't do? Apologize. Yeah, no, we're like, be mealy mouthed about their positions. They say, this is what I think. This is what I'm going to do. And if you don't agree with me, I'm sorry. But this is what I'm do. I guess I just apologized to that. But I'm not sorry. I will never apologize for fighting for the average American. Yeah. And they got huge, huge, well, at least Obama got huge crossover. Oh, yeah. AOC is kind of similar to she's getting Republican votes. And she says progressive as it comes, but she's strong and she's forceful. And you can tell that she means what she says. Yes. And it's like the mealy mouth like, well, you know, it's the 72 point plan. Everyone's like, fuck off. Just tell me what it means. I don't have time to listen to this. Am I going to pay less for health? Is Richard? Am I going to pay less? Or am I going to pay more? Yeah, what is it? I mean, the systemic challenge, I was talking to Brad Doggett about this the other day is because he was arguing like, well, we should just lie like Trump does about like what how much we can do. And I was like, I don't think that's going to work because I think in the end, the challenge that we face compared to what Republicans do is we're trying to sell a whole new system. Like Republicans aren't selling a new thing. They're selling an old thing repackaged as like it's old, but you want to go back to it. You know this product, right? You just don't like the changes that have happened, but we can just fix it to go back to the way it was. Democrats are going, no, no, no, we need a whole new system. Trust us. That's a very psychologically different argument to go, hey, we're going to do something totally new. People are like, oh, shit, really? They get very nervous about it. So like, we're disadvantaged in how we have to sell. Like conviction is the only thing because like essentially what you're saying is like, trust me, it's going to work. And you have to be confident when you say that. And if you're not, you have to believe it. We have to believe it. Not just because you're analyst or, you know, the panel on MSNBC or MSNOW or whatever said that it plays well with independent Hispanic voters in Ohio. Like that can't be your North Star. Donald Trump has never cared about a poll. He just makes it up. He looks at whatever number is favorable. Whatever's in his fucking head. Yeah, right. It might be a 90% approval. It might be a news. 99% in Israel, don't you know that 99. King of the Jews. That's what he said. He said he's going to go run there after he's done it here. That's amazing. Run from the grave. That's a fair trade since Netanyahu's been our president for the last year and a half. That's a clip right there. There we go. There we go. But yeah, I mean, but like even, even Graham Plattner, which he has plenty of detractors, right, for legitimate reasons, he crushed Janet Mills. She dropped before they even voted. Yeah, it wasn't worth it. And, and he's leading Susan Collins and all. And it's like people, because he stands up and he says this things and like the past for people, they're kind of like, well, shit, like Donald Trump was a Democrat and was like all these things and like no one gave a shit. So like maybe we don't need to give a shit either. And I think he's got a legitimate shot at flipping that seat. And it's because people stand up, people, people want to follow people who believe in the thing. Like I couldn't let go like into like business world and sell a product that I don't care about, right? Don't use, right? And I would be terrible at it. But if it's like talking about this show or talking about our company, I can go out there and pitch all day long because I believe in it. Exactly. But it's the same with the politician. Like you don't want somebody who's just malting the words, you want them to feel it and you want to feel it. Because you know that, you know that they're going to encounter surprises, they're going to, you know, the wrinkles, budget surprises, like 9 11, like shit happens in the world. Some of it's, some of it's out of your control, some of it's your control. People don't need all of the answers. And they really don't want all of the details and all of the data. Like they know that you're, you're, you're pretty much guessing when it comes to the future. It's a really sometimes well informed guess. But what they want to know is that when you confront one of those obstacles or one of those surprises or barriers, that the reason you're going to drive through it and get to that benefit you promised is because you actually believe that that benefit is a thing that has to be true. It has to happen. And that's what gets you through those things, those surprises that come up instead of just saying, well, we, the research showed that actually blah blah, and then, well, okay, well, we're going to cut, you know, the Obamacare, you know, ACA and half or down to 10% of its original plan. Like so much of the worst stuff that has frustrated people with Democrats has come because they haven't had the conviction to just push through and do the thing. You know, we lost a lot of votes on Obamacare, for example. And that, and that lack of perceived conviction, that passion is what is driving people crazy. And I wanted to pull up just to, before we pivot away, maybe from this topic, Washington Post just published this morning that they asked 1200 people what they love and hate about both political parties. And half of the things on this list are exactly what we're talking about. But I need people to think about it just for a minute, because yes, like, Republicans said, oh, they're too liberal or socialist. But then the next reason, 10% of people said too weak, too spineless, they don't stand up to Trump. And then you've got favoring corporations. You've got out of touch with everyday Americans in the working class, that's 4%. You've got poor slash old leadership, 3%. No clear policy agenda, no principles and pandering 3%. So you start adding these up. You've got about 20% of people, which includes Democrats and independents in this poll, saying essentially, there's nothing inspiring, they're not saying anything. They're not fighting. They're not fighting for the something that I believe in. And you need to ask yourself, what do you think the voter turnout is? How many people who believe that about Democrats when it comes time to either like, go to the movies or go vote for a Democrat? And they think they're all pro corporation and they don't fight for anything. Maybe I'll sit this one out. That's crazy too, that they think they're pro corporation when Republicans are like, the whole reason that this is structured the way it is. Like corporate tax rate under Obama at 1.35%. And now you have the one big beautiful bill act making it so corporations can defer pretty much all their taxes forever, essentially over and over and over again. Like $50 billion wasn't paid last year between fucking Google, Metta, Tesla and fucking one on one. I can't remember. Amazon. $50 billion. Just because of the one of the big beautiful bill. They just pushed it down a little bit and I was looking into it. It's like, so when do they have to pay it? And it's like, well, kind of never. I'm like, oh, sick. That's great. So they could just like over 10 years, $500 billion is just gone. Great. That's cool. Oh, and I'm sure they're adding tens of thousands of jobs, right? Right? Oh, yeah. Actually, I think Amazon just laid off, but she met a laid off 8,000. I read that we're losing 16,000 a month because of AI alone. Yep. It's great. Or they're at least using that as the excuse. That's the excuse anyway. Yeah. Because it's crazy. AI is not doing the job. AI is eating up their margins. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what everybody's, like all the think pieces are finally coming around to the fact that AI layoffs are not because of AI replacing worker productivity. AI layoffs are because of the massive expenditure on data centers. And so they're all spending $200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 per year to invest in all of this infrastructure and energy and share of attention from Anthropoc and OpenAI. And that comes at the expense of the bottom line. And so to keep those tax, to the shareholders happy, they have to find the money somewhere. They got a bigger tax cut than that's eating into their margins, right? This is the $50 billion in one year that we didn't get. They're not spending $50 billion this year on data centers. No. They're using that as an excuse to shed people, staff, while telling investors, shareholders, that we're still fine. We don't need these people. But I have an idea. I'm curious what you guys think on the healthcare stuff because I thought about this a lot. It actually could have helped me is the fact that so many people in this country hate their jobs, right? They hate their jobs. Why has no Democrat been like, if we have a universal healthcare bill and it becomes law, you can quit that job you hate because you have it for healthcare and you can go try to do the thing that you've always wanted to do yourself. Luckily, my wife had insurance, which is how I was able to start my own thing before this happened. But my dad, for example, hated his job his entire life, hated every bit of it. And that's why partially I think I moved out and I did something really different because he was so miserable. But if there had been an option, maybe he would have done something. He was always what loved to do woodworking and things like this. My mom and I were talking last night, he probably shouldn't even have gone to college. He should have done something like that because it was what he was good at and he loved. And with a bill like that and a law like that, there's opportunities for millions of people to get out of those shitty ass jobs and do the thing. But we never talk about that. We say healthcare is a human right. Right. Well, what the fuck does that mean other than like, okay, yes, you deserve it. All right, now welcome to reality. Right. And the cost money, like, how are we going to pitch this other than just saying like, you deserve it? Right. And that to me, like the economic part, we just don't we just don't do it. It's so it literally should be sold as the biggest economic stimulus package in the history of America. That's really what it is unquestionably. Like, it would you think about it from this perspective, how much money do corporations spend paying for these employees healthcare way the fuck more than the additional payroll tax would be if you take that off their books. So all these corporations are saving billions of fucking dollars on this shit every single year. You don't think that that's going to benefit people. You don't think that people not having to pay those premiums isn't going to benefit the economy done a lot. There's so many ways to pitch this right. And it's all just like, well, it's a right. It's like, it's not a right. These motherfuckers who are giving you this healthcare had to go to school for eight years and learn how to do this shit. They're in mountains of debt. They don't owe you shit. They're fucking like it's one of those things where like, I hate that rights argument. Like, somebody like me, I'm just like, man, why do you feel entitled to this? These these people who are providing you this work their fucking ass off to get there. And they're supposed to hand it out to everybody like it's a free product. That's ridiculous. The government's job to make it free, not their job to fucking be burdened by the shit. So like, there's so many layers, there's so many layers to it. It's frustrating. We lose that whole libertarian side because there are a lot of people who don't believe that healthcare is a human right, who don't believe that food and shelter is a human right. Right. There are is a it's a it's a diminishing population. But there are probably millions to tens of millions of people who believe this is a free country. You should go work for what you have. You know, they usually believe you should work hard and get paid fairly. And if your employer wrongs you that like that should be rectified. But mostly they believe in personal responsibility and 100% you just trying to change their mind is stupid. Instead, yes, find a way in and say, I was looking up some some stats while you were when you mentioned healthcare spending, because, yes, healthcare spending, not healthcare, but health insurance spending is around $1.5 to $2 trillion per year. And about two thirds of that is paid by employers. 72% is crazy by employers, which means only 28% has been paid by the employees. And so it's actually a one to $2 trillion tax cut on small, especially on small businesses, which disproportionately pay more because they don't get they can't compete for the good rates. And they can't grow as fast. They don't have as many options. They don't have leverage tax loopholes and big lawyer teams. You can you go to the market and you say, listen, we're trying to unlock innovation. We're trying to unlock entrepreneurs. This is going to create a massive number of jobs because now you can go and make pizzas for a living if that's what you want to do. And you're just scared to leave your your big job, your stable job that you paid because you got good health insurance 100%. You have to frame it for the audience, not for for the politicians or the policy writers or the budget people because those people are not. And you can double down on that too with like if you want to go further into education, it's like so many people don't do exactly this because they're like, well, I can't afford to do the education for it anyway. So it's like, if you free them up, they get blocked by the other thing. So it sells the suite of products. It's like, hey, if you want freedom, talk about fucking freedom, you can come out and go to school for whatever you want to do, whatever the fuck you want. You know, yeah, it's the pitch. The other part is that if it actually incentivizes shitty companies to up their game, because if everybody is like all of a sudden, like I don't need this shit anymore, and they go do their own thing, and then they're like, I can't hire anybody. Oh, well, then maybe there is something else wrong here. Yeah. So like, there's just so many good. Yes, it is expensive. And yes, it is a massive shift. In fact, you've accurately pointed out before we actually don't have enough doctors and nurses. No, we don't. Yeah, we're not part of this. That's part of the explanation. That's part of the funding. That's part of the solution. Exactly. Yeah, I accept that. Well, but like, there's not really a much of a lag. Like, tremendous amount of lag. I mean, like in the end, doctors like eight years. Yeah. I mean, the truth is like, if you aggressively pursue this, it wouldn't really be optimized for about a decade. But that's okay. Like that's still you should still do it. I'm just saying like, I think that that's the reason I get so mad at like people like Bernie Sanders and like get really pissed off because he's lying to your face. Like Bernie Sanders is lying to your face when he tells you like, hey, we can have universal healthcare in this country is going to be like this. All we got to do is bam, bam, bam, and we're there. It's like, that's complete bullshit. You can't do that. Like it literally functionally is impossible. So like, don't lie to me. Tell me what we actually have to do and let's go and we'll do it. But like, don't set because that's how Democrats get fucked. They make these huge promises. And then people go, where is it? What did you said this? And where the fuck is it? And it's like, it's not here because it couldn't, it doesn't work. Too many things are built the opposite way. I think that's the hard part for us is we're trying to be intellectually honest about everything as we pitch it. I think and but we're also trying to over promise, you know, which is that's a really dangerous. If you're not gonna promise nobody votes for you anyway. Exactly. Yeah, so balancing act, there's no question. But like Donald Trump comes out and he over promises times a thousand on everything. I mean, he said he was gonna like decrease prices on he was basically saying, I'm going to give you stagflation and or the inverse of stagflation like runaway growth, decreasing prices, which that's the man buddy. He literally is not delivering on that at all. The opposite and it's fucking him just like in a hundred percent. But it's the same thing. It's the same risk on the other side. But he's still one. I also think that whoever like if if somebody was going to get creative about this, I think that like one of the things you could do is lower the age. If you pass the bill for universal health care and there's a 10 year leg, you could lower the Medicare age to 62 or to 60. And then all of a sudden you're going to have at least thousands of people retiring, which is going to open up jobs, right? Other people and then it has this like you're giving these people the health care that they need. You're opening all these jobs up. So because I my worry about a decade long transition is that the Republicans are just halfway through. I'll fuck it through it. 100 percent. And we have never shown the ability to hold the White House for more than eight years at a time. Yeah. So like that would have to be like past day one. And then. But if you start. If you we talked about this at length, it was a couple months ago in an episode about like how maybe you could do this. But if you start with lowering the Medicaid or the Medicare age, and then you also add a low bracket because because young people are relatively healthy. You also start you also start winning over the young voters then. Then you say it's kind of like the opposite of the military trap. You say like, hey, if you're 35 in three years, you're going to be eligible for universal health care. We just need like we need doctors. We need the infrastructure. This is how it needs to go. You could also have a cap. You could like you could have a deductible. You could you could phase it in in a lot of ways. But then people have to go and vote against their own future benefit. Even if they don't have it yet, they would have to go and vote against it. If they're going to vote for somebody who's saying, I'm going to dismantle it. If anything, what would really happen is somebody would come in and say, this is my idea now. We're going to double it. It's not going fast enough. I'm going to triple it. I'm going to accelerate it. I'm going to speed it up. You deserve it now. And then, yeah, bam, suddenly we have universal health care. The challenge like that all makes sense structurally to phase it in. The challenge becomes an access challenge because in the end, like people are going to look at it and go, hey, like look at Canada. Like people, you know, in Canada's health care system is very good. But like for regular shit, you got to wait a long ass time. They triage the whole thing. So like, and it's only, you know, one tenth of our population. So essentially what's going to end up happening is if we phase this in fast, tons of people who could have previously gotten shit pretty quickly done will be waiting on a list for a super long time. And the Republicans will go, see, it sucks. And it'll be dead in a second. So that's the reason why you have to look at it and go, we've got to be smart about how we phase this in or it will get killed immediately. Not because it's not a good idea, but because you can't just flip a switch and holy shit, it doesn't magically happen. I also think you're going to have to either severely discount or make medical school and nursing school free. 100% You have to ask to be free. You're going to need all those people. I mean, you can go into a hospital now and they'll tell you that they're always short staffed. You don't have to watch the pit to understand this. Like you could you go anywhere. Oh my God. And so then all of a sudden just, you know, say you're going to add tens of millions of people who now have no financial disincentive to not go. So then they go more often. Right now, hopefully you're pushing them to offices. They're not going to be rushing the ER because the ER doesn't isn't going to be required to take care of you and pay and kick it off to Medicaid or close the hospital, which is the right. That's what that's the Republican healthcare system right now in a nutshell. Yeah, the problem though is that to pay for a get free school for doctors. It's like you don't see the return until eight years down. Right. Whatever. Well, nurses is different. One or two, depending. Yeah, nurse practitioners, especially like because I mean, most offices now, especially specialty offices run with an NP as the front of the whole thing. And then if you need to go see the specialists, you will. But like, if you just like really heavily invested in P's, that's a gigantic step forward. There's no question about it. Yeah, what is that four years? I don't know. Three. I think it's my brother in law is a physician's assistant. So I should know this, but I think it's a client. It's it's it's it's it's it's you know, you know what you also do when you and this is the thing that like an independent low information voter who spends most of his time at like a karaoke bar in Iowa, they don't care about this conversation. This is this is not the conversation we have on the campaign trail. No, but but when you're in the weeds, you think of I'm fully like, I fully hijacked my brain with that like karaoke bar reference. And now I'm like, where was I going with this? I know. You you you go out and you say, you know, here's what you're entitled to. I found it. You you say, here's what you're entitled to like that's how you sell on the market. But what you're actually doing in the health in the health care industry is your what 10 X in demand for doctors. And then what are we talking about nurses and doctors who are overseas? Then you can start talking about attracting talent because the world's most wealthy nation that has ever existed now is paying more and needs more doctors and nurses. So you know, now we're talking about every doctor in the world thinking, maybe I should go to the United States, they've got a they got a huge demand. And there is a problem. But there is a problem with that as I actually was a roommate with someone who had a medical degree from another country. You got to do it all over again a lot of time. Yep. Yep. Because you could change that although you change that a lot. But a lot of these countries don't train them correctly. They don't go to undergrad. They just go straight to medical school. Yeah. No, it's true. That four years. Yeah, that's fine. So then you then you have them pass a test when they when they get to the border, you just give them a random, you know, Republican to and just be like, here's here operate on this person and we'll see if you can do it or not. Trump test. Yeah, exactly. Square, elephant. Yeah. Draft. At the next time he brags about that shit. So he's not going to be proud of. He posted this cognitive stuff this morning while we were talking. He's like the pseudo graphic. I love that we pivoted to this. We got a there was something he wrote. He put out about a perfect, a perfect. The Montreal's. Yeah. Yeah. Well, of course it's perfect. Have you ever taken it before? You can take it online. It's the easy. It's not to be proud of. No, it's the only thing that was like I took it the other day just out of curiosity. The only thing that was subtly challenging was that like in the beginning, they say five words and then like later on, they'll be like, OK, what were those five words? Outside of that, it's like, which of these animals has tusks and it's like fucking Christ. It's the easiest shit ever. While we were talking, he posted an image of Barack Obama with a zero and an X. Joe Biden with a zero and an X. Oh, I just and then Donald Trump with a three and green. Maybe they didn't need to give Obama and Biden cognitive tests. Did they? Did he ever ask himself that? Well, why is he getting tested? Why is he going to want to read every three months worn in or something? Like, I know. It wasn't even 50. Obama could still tell you. He could still articulate probably half of the things that he wrote here. OK, well, I want to read this. This from from April 30th, which apparently he posted yesterday again, which exactly for word because he forgot not exactly the greatest way to brag about your acing the cognitive test. Nope. Anybody running for president or vice president should be forced to take a cognitive examination prior to entering the race by doing so. We wouldn't be surprised that people like Barack Hussein always for some reason. I don't know why they're in quotes. As if that's not his middle name or sleepy Joe Biden. No quotes around sleepy Joe Biden getting elected. That's in quotes. He actually used that correctly because he's oh, yeah. But like our country would be much better place. I took the exam by the way, the exam capital exam capital E. It's the only time during my then then in brackets quote three exclamation point terms as president, three terms as president. And then in all caps, aced it all three times and achievement that even on a single exam, according to the doctors, has rarely been done before. President Donald Donald J. Rarely been done before. It's a basic fucking. Taken. Because they don't have fucking dementia. You ignorant fuck. Yeah. And also Donald Trump weighs 220 pounds. Yep. That's what he also insane that they I mean above the belt. He's got away at least 280. There's just no minimum. Oh, well, he's also six two or three. Right. So he like that. It's so funny. They show NFL players who are 20 and they're just fucking cut like six, one about same size. Yeah, just ripped his shit. Yeah. And like not an ounce of body fat on them. And then this loving tub of shit comes blooming out there and like wear suits that are so big partially to cover. Oh, yeah. The disgustingness underneath. Yeah. And he's like, oh, it's up to six, three, two, 20. I'm like, dude, I bet you couldn't run 10 yards. Imagine seeing him shirt. I would love to see him. I don't want to see him. I pay for that. I I need a sound for that. I need a sound for that. I don't know what it is. Like a sound like I would pay so much money to see that. It would be so fun. I don't think we have a sad one. I hate that. Oh, wait, are there more here? Wouldn't it be the funniest thing you've ever seen? Because it'd be so sad. Like it'd be this all droopy old fat. Like it'd be so good to see. That just reminds me of that that meme that was going around. I can't remember probably 2020 2024. They're like this could have all been over if somebody had just told Trump that Barack Obama could run a faster mile than he can. Do you think that Donald Trump has ever run a mile in his life? No, no, of course not. I mean, he went to military school. Yeah, maybe he was a kid. Yeah. But have you ever seen the photo of him playing or the video of him playing volleyball? No. Oh my God. I got to see that. He looks like a fucking idiot. Let me say. And he's like shirt tucked in, of course. And he's like, it's this is like 30 years ago. So like it's, you know, you can make fun of him because he was in his 40s, probably 30. And he just like he just looks so unathletic. Let's see. It's no fucking on YouTube. I don't see it. Oh, here it is. Here we go. Let's see. It's not good. Yeah, it's not falls off. He falls down. Oh, this is the guy that all of these can packs in. Yeah, I mean, this is this is the guy that everyone's like, this is the big man that I love to support. And it's like, he is the softest little baby in all areas. He's not athletic. No, he's not smart. He is disgusting. Yeah, all facets. And they're like, yeah, man, that's my guy. And I'm like, dude, maybe maybe Hillary should have just played the volleyball clip over. Politicians need to start to say like being super mean to him. Like that's really all it is. Like, I agree. Just fucking fat fuck. Like that's it. And what is the thing that he is most afraid of in life? Right? Yeah. Look at that fucking. He was a tub of shit then too. Look at the tucked in tucked in white collared shirt. The Seinfeld jeans into the mom jeans. That looks like if you didn't show me the top, I would think that was a woman. If you just show me the bottom. Yeah, for sure. It's not bad. They couldn't wear that now that I'm thinking that way, I can't get it out of my head. I would I would love to see a feats of strength between him and Barack Obama. Wouldn't that be the funny? I'm really like I'm stuck on that thought though of like I want some politician to all they do is just like literally make fun of him like it's high school. Just like an orange. But like Newsome, it was more like a gag. You want it meaner. I want it so I want it to like drag show roasting level. Roasting. Yes, I want it. I want it like literally like he goes home and contemplates killing himself. Like that's that's the level of like like he can't make a laser. Nikki Glaser roast or somebody like, you know, that's what I want because I think he can't handle it. He hates it. I don't know if you guys saw the roast of Kevin Hart or any of the clips. The Chelsea handler joke of going after the guys who did the Riyadh. Yeah, I mean, he passed the ball was so fucking good. And they were so mad. They were so pissed that one guy that made that horrible thing where he's yelling about Latinos at the Trump rally. Two weeks before. Yeah, he was the one that was mostly directed at and he's just like, he's not even like a smile to be like, haha, I'm at a rose. He was legit pissed. I'm like, good. He's not even fun. I don't know how he got funny. He's not a funny guy. Like there's some guys on that side that I think are really funny. Like Shane Gales is very funny. But this is really right. He's kind of a dumb guy that doesn't really like kill Tony, right? Yeah. Yeah. I hate that. He was sitting there and he got he got torched. I mean, that was that was a fucking murder that man. Yeah, yeah, he did. I like Pete Davidson. He's good. I like to watch that now. He's got some problems right now too. But does he? Yeah, he's got he got separated from the woman that had he had a kid with and then she said he wasn't paying any child support. But then he was like, yes, I am. And it's like this whole stupid like fight. And I'm like, maybe you guys shouldn't have had a kid after dating for three months. Just just a concept. Hey, we are under babyed as a country. Don't you dare say that people shouldn't have kids. Thank you, Elon Musk for your PSA on us. That was underpopulation. That was that was Dr. Oz. Oh, I can tell you exactly what it is. It has nothing to do with how many people in this country. It has how many how much to do with how many white people there are in this country. And they are worried about Hey, if we want to have a white becoming a minority, I mean, that why else would you be talking about this? There's I don't know. So there's no, there's two groups. Yeah, I did a video about this. Do you guys not watch my videos? There's God damn it. You never show up in my feed, to be honest. That's true. You have not recently for me. I don't make good content. I just keep swiping. Yeah. Tim is Tim is the reason that you guys don't see my videos. He dismisses them so fast. They're like, nah, this is a bad one. There's the JD Vance crew. We don't have enough and Stephen Miller, we don't have enough white people. But then there's also the Peter Teals and the Mark Andreessen's and the Elon Musk's who are saying we don't have enough cheap workers. They need the market flooded with cheap ass labor so that they have no bargaining power. That way they have all the workers they need. But then they all believe that well, if you're a good Christian, you don't need more than $25,000 a year. You can work hard and have 15 kids and be a homesteader. And then, you know, your kids can go off and work in the factories. Like that is the dream marriage of convenience between the Biblical evangelicals and billionaires. I have a solution to the no worker problem. Robots. It is a really immigration. Yeah, maybe we don't kick people out of the country. Maybe he's a good idea. That was a solution for like 30 years. 40 years. To be clear, violent criminals by like everybody thinks so. So, so, the rest of them. Yeah, so the Maggots, the ones all of the fucking people voted for it. Yeah, I would support all of those January six. Seacot. I don't know. Seacot. Yeah, go. I am. Yes. Like fuck you guys, not get $1.8 billion from the government. Right. That's how you actually pitch it to him to you say, Hey, Magga, see, caught. Oh, clever. I love it. It's in Florida, guys. Your bastion of like whatever a bullshit all go there. You know, I would. No, I don't know. I'm not going to say. Okay. Hey, we made it an hour. I have to say when we were starting, we were like, we don't really know what we're going to talk about. I know. I'm going to talk about Paxton and then we just keep going. Yep. I'm trying to think if we got anything we got to announce, but people are going to ask us to have James, tellerico on the show already working on ribs. I want to eat barbecue with James Taylor. That's a good idea. We're probably not famous enough to earn that media spot, but like James, tellerico eating a steak or eating ribs. Definitely don't have the money, but we should go to Texas to do that. Yeah, that would be pretty fun and film. Great. He should just make a campaign out of that. Like all it should be is just like them shitting on him. But like he's a vegan is the video. He's just got barbecue sauce all over his face. Yeah. That's a fucking home run. One's the size of your head. Yeah. And he just throws the bone to the side, just wipes his hands on his shirt. He's like, let's see you do that. Ken Paxton. Ken Paxton eats ribs and then just has a heart attack. That's fine. I have had barbecue at Texas and it is, it is quite fantastic. It's fantastic. That's why everybody loves it. Yes. If James, James, Mr. Taylor Rico, state Senator Taylor Rico, if you would like us to come, we will show up and we will eat ribs with you. Tim, I just had an idea. So barbecue with Taylor Rico in, in Texas, then we go to Maine and we have lobster rolls with grand platinum. We do a food Senate tour. I like it. That's a good idea. I love that idea. It's actually a really good idea. Also, I could go for a lobster roll. Everybody always wants a lobster roll. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the main ones, not those stupid Connecticut ones. What do we got then? Can we go eat like a, well, like salmon or something with like peltola? Yeah, salmon, crab. Right. This is starting to come together. Yeah. I love this. I love this idea. What are we, what are we, what are we eating? Well, I guess what do we, with Zach Walls, do we eat corn? Sweet corn as the only, as the only logical thing. I mean, you can have, you know, you could also do a bacon. So we're also making for pigs, given that we're outnumbered. What's that? Pigs four to one here. Don't you also eat fried stickers? Isn't that like a thing? That's the whole Midwest. Yeah. What is that? Deep fried. It's a corn dog with a candy bar in the middle of the bread. It's like a pancake with melted Snickers in the middle. It's too fat. If you, if you complete, if you eat one, you instantly get diabetes. Yeah, that's pretty, probably accurate. Pretty true. Yeah. Again, let's go pitch that healthcare plan at the, at the Iowa State Fair. Hey, you can eat this and you're going to get free insulin. We'll just walk you right in the door. It's going to be great. Wait, what else, what other foods like North Carolina, what do you, I guess that's barbecue too with Roy Cooper. Totally different barbecue though. Yeah. Same with Georgia too. So also defensible Georgia. Yeah. If we go to, so guys, for those listening, we are talking about possibly doing a tour in the fall, but I don't want to give too much away because I don't know. It's not, it's not definitely not planning. Actually, I did a poll on find out, on find out social, if we should go to a tour, if we should do a tour or not. And we got like 50% then the other half is like, well, it depends on where it is. And I was like, of course, like, I'm not going to ask you to go 500. If we came to a city near you, would you attend? That's the question. But I would love to know, tell us in the comments, what would we eat if we did a show in your, in your neck of the woods? And should we come to your neck of the woods? Yeah. Is there a reason? Also, can you fill like a 25,000 seat venue for us? If you can, we will show up. We will do whatever you want. No, but anyways, yeah, well, but then Luke's keeping his shoes on. Come on. They are not coming off. No chance. Oh, stay on. Oh, maybe if we do a tour, when you're on stage, you could take your shoes off. Where people do the first two, the first two rows will charge more. Yeah. You have to buy the premium ticket. A bunch of foot fetishes just sitting in the front row. So I hate this idea of thoroughly or maybe a little backstage like beat and greet. Feet and shoes. Beat and greet. Feet and greet is not nice. I don't like that. There you go. I like that. First it's the feet and greet, and then it's the beat and greet. Are you still getting those requests or is that down? Oh, no, it's always, it's ever present. After the watermelon one, I heard some really bad, I got some really bad texts after Luke's watermelon video. After the watermelon video went out, that was, that was, that was bad. I'd be curious to see what those are. It's fucking funny. Oh my God. I mean, you don't, you probably could just close your eyes and imagine and it's probably happened. I'm sure. Yeah, strangely, a woman got these texts. It would be sexual harassment. Yeah, I think I've seen a video of someone no, pleasuring themselves to my video. Oh, that's great. Yeah, like I said, like they sent it directly to you just one on just like a DM of like, here you go. It was DM and email. He really wanted me to see it. Damn, that's, that's a whole move. You got it in two different Senate on every platform plus the email. Is that illegal? Like, could that feel illegal? But I'm not gonna go through the problem. It's exposure. I mean, you're sending your text to this guy. You're not in public. It's not like you're like, no, I think it is. It's kind of decency. I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Well, is that considered harassment? That's what I'm saying. I feel like I could say that's probably sexual harassment. I would agree with that. Yeah. I mean, if you sent that to a female, it would definitely could be, you can screw it that way, right? I mean, so why not to So Luke, I assume you thanked him for such a generous gift. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big time. A big heart on it. Heart. Heart on it or what were you saying? I hate. I wasn't saying anything. Anyways, guys. That's a wrap. We are definitely done now. We always, anytime we don't have a finish, it just it just it just it gets bad. Well, at least someone had a finish. No, that guy definitely had a finish. Don't worry. We watched the whole thing then. You waited. It wasn't very long. Okay. Don't tell people you watched it because then people are going to be like, well, then I'll send you one. That's true. You're going to watch the guy that's going to watch it to completion. I hate you. I hate you. Well, everybody, thanks for sticking with us. This is falling completely apart. It's great. But you know what? I'm going to like, I'm going to I'm going to just give it like this is what the crowd thought of today. Yeah. Oh, I can't get it. No, don't do it. But what's it called? It's just it was just cheering. All right. But I can't get it to work. Why does some of these work? It's a wait a minute. Oh, it's broken. Okay. Zach finally got it broken. Yeah. All right. I have to go. So thank you everybody for listening. Everybody, you know, check us out cross platform, sign up for find out social and look at yours. No, don't send me those. Keep that shit away from me. That's an optional puppy videos not recommended but optional. Thank you, everybody. I hope it's not just the fee people are still listening. We appreciate all of you, even the fee people. And yeah, I think what this comes out on Thursday, so we'll be back next week. Actually, we're going to have the CEO of next gen America who's just done some recent polling on how to get young people interested and excited to vote and the issues. So we're going to dive into that for Tuesday's episode. So with that, have a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you next week. Bye, everybody.