Porsha Williams: Demanding Kids & Altercation

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But hurry, an extra 10% off everything ends the 13th of April. Please apply. Plus, we tease the premiere of season 17 of The Real Housewives of Atlanta. You look gorgeous. I am here. So glamorous. Good to see you. Come in, let's get this thing cracking. Now, I have to say, I want to, um, Bravo schedules you people so tightly. Like Dolores walked in 20 seconds before, Liz McGraw, same thing. What were you doing before this? Housewife belt line. Well, I just went to go get something to eat. Yeah, I didn't even reply my lip gloss. So this is real back to back. Okay, because what we would have got you something to eat, what did you end up ordering for breakfast? So I went to Avra and yes, it was so good. I got the fried zucchini. I'm eating light. I had a models lunch. So I had the Greek salad and Greek salad and octopus. So no, no, no. That's exactly what we got. Yeah, yeah. Forget it. I love all apps. No heavy bread, only a salad. Yeah, I mean, the zucchini was fried, but let's just forget about that part. Lightly fried. And are you a day drinker? I can be. Okay. I can be, but you know, I said, you know what? I got to do all this talking. I don't want to misspeak again, honey. I was at the American Dream Mall yesterday and I had two drinks and it just screwed me up for the whole day. You were down. I'm not a day drinker. It depends on what it is. You got to be light. It's got to be something light. And for me, when I day drink, I know people do when I say light, you're thinking like a cocktail. Yeah. I mean, like straight, like straight tequila with a horn slice. Oh, yeah. So if like yesterday I flew in and in the airport, we had tequila, you know, like a drink in the airport. Yeah. You, you have to. Are you traveling? You just, you have to. Yeah. I can't go in the air like that risking my life without a drink in my belly. I think it's interesting how Bravo just has, they have their own rules. Like we, we said we wanted, we like her when they're half an hour early, but Bravo just does whatever they want. They say, you know what, we're going to pack the girls. You know, Portia will get there when she gets there. And I think it's glamorous. Maybe a little disrespectful. No, you made it. You made it just in time. You're allowed. We were lucky enough to get the screener for episode one of housewives of Atlanta. Oh my gosh. So you watched it. I did watch it. What'd you think? Well, first of all, I think you're a great hostess. You do. I think you did a good. I do not like hosting. I think you did a good job. I don't like hosting on the show. And I thought you were incredibly diplomatic with all of the girls. I know that there, there seemed to be, there could have been tension with one. I want to be careful because I've seen it and no one has, but there could have been tension with one, but I feel like you really handled it well. Yeah. I think I, well, I know for sure. I generally move past any negativity. You know, my goal for this season was, and that's why I opened up the season with having an event and hosting an event, even though that's not really my thing is because I wanted to have a fresh start. You know, the year before it was a lot going on. We all saw the reunion and the season and I had, I played my part in it as well. So this season, me being freshly newly divorced and feeling good, feeling free, feeling renewed, I wanted to bring that energy with the girls. So that's why I wanted to have like an event, you know? That is the crazy part of being a housewife is that you, it's, is your job to get along with these people. Like in a normal situation, if you had that big of a falling out with a friend, I would say never speak to me again. Goodbye. And you're all here. You're all on the cast. They're going to be in your home. Like, and you do do a good job of just rolling out the red carpet and cheers and you move forward. You know, you know, you say it's your job to be nice and be kind. It's actually not. I think you guys pretty much like when we do have drama. And so when it comes to an event, we do have a choice whether we want to invite certain people or not. And so it was very intentional for me to invite the entire cast, you know, and actually have an open heart and have an open home and be a gracious host. My whole thought for that night was to just be a gracious host. I think that the, the viewers, they'll see what we saw. But what I liked about it is that, of course, you kind of could feel there was certain tension between certain girls. But, but you know what? We're just dipping our toe in right now. It was kind of a fun party. It was interesting, good looking people, you know, people turned out, they dressed well, they looked good. And you know, it was just, but then you kind of like got a little bit of a hint of like, Oh, these two don't like each other. These two like each other. So I'll be honest with you. I was a huge real housewives of Atlanta star for many, many star. I was like, who? I don't remember you. Viewer. Who said that? That's not it. In my head. In my head. I know that's right. He say, I'm in it. I feel like I'm a part of the cast because I was in it. I was in it. And then I stepped away for a while and now I'm back in. So I had to have Shane there next to me explaining like, who's this person and what's going on with that and what happened with Shamiah and new girls. Let me ask you this though, since you are a former housewife Atlanta housewife, I want to know like, do you feel like after seeing the screener that we're getting back to some of that lighthearted shade? Like you said, not going to D being able to kind of scale it up to the crazy drama. You know what I mean? Not so on the nose with it. Whereas like, I don't really want to watch this. It feels good, right? That's what I think. That's why I just kind of in, for me when I watch housewives, yes, of course I like an argument or a conflict, but I also equally love when everyone is getting along and having fun. And it's also very aspirational, right? I mean, you've got a lot of very successful women on this cast and you know, it's very interesting meeting the new people and hearing what they do for a living and how they've made their money and you know, you've got these incredibly self-made, successful people. And you know, your house, your house helps too. It's an incredible set. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, how big is that house? 16,000 square feet somewhere around there. How many bedrooms, how many bathrooms, how many? Come over. Do you have a gym? Do you have a theater? Do you have? Come over. I would love for you to come to Atlanta and visit. It's a nice home. I really would. You know what, even though it is a rather large home and I can tell when I'm walking from my kitchen to the bedroom, you know, I can tell that every time I'm just going to go try to get me something to eat, I got to walk a damn off. But it's very livable space. You know, my daughter and I and my family members, we take up space in that house. And that's what I like about. I think that's why, you know, I'm like, okay, I can enjoy it. I've always pretty much lived in a larger home, but I enjoy every room. Like it's warm. I did an interview earlier. They're like, how would you describe your house? They're like, say warm. It's very warm and always like full, full of like people and just a busy, bustling house, even though it's my daughter and I was thinking about that because I know that your dad has passed, but are you close to your mom? Very close to my mom. She's at the house all the time. Yeah. So this season I did something very, very special for her. I actually think I posted it already. I bought my mom a home. I bought my mom another house. Yeah, I did. So before that though, of course, she lived in the house prior. And so she was always still at my house, but now since she has a new house, she is always there. And I'm always like, mom, you're coming over. She's like, girl, I'm just enjoying my house. So now, you know, she's not over as much. But yeah, normally she is with me all the time. How close is her home to your home? So now she's maybe about, I say 40 minutes from me, which in Atlanta is pretty normal, give or take. I mean, everything is like 30 to 45 minutes away from each other. But yeah, just in general, you know, with having my assistants there, security there, my nanny, you know, we just always have something going on, which is how I like it. Do you have security as well? Oh, absolutely. Really? Oh yeah, my house is like Fort Knox. Oh, absolutely. I have like GI Joes out there. When people come into my house, it's like, don't forget anything in the car because they're scared to go back to the car. Yeah, no. Yeah, of course. Wow, smart. 100% being a popular figure, you have to make sure that your home is like fully secure at all times. So yeah, run up on it. Wow, that's a big expense each month. Yeah, but it's worth it. It's worth it. Yeah, I'd rather be alive month to month. Did you have scares? Is that why you hired security? I mean, at what point did you hire security? Well, I've always had security. You know, I've been on the show for 10 plus years now. We film in our homes, you know, and I think people relatively can find out where we are. I think all of us have that level of security. Like, we have to. So even before your daughter? Oh, absolutely. 100% Oh, yeah. I mean, I was valuable before I gave birth to her. I mean, she is my world, but I'm somebody too. Now, hold on. Protect me. If you're protecting me, she wouldn't have got here. Now, she's seven. She just turned seven. Yes, March 22nd. Yeah, so I'm the 24th. So we're both. Oh. What's her personality like? So, okay, they're telling me she's the Aries. I don't, I don't attach it to her. So I never remember which one she is. Um, she's very strong willed. Yeah. Very strong willed, very creative. She's very funny. So we literally have the same personality. Sometimes my friends, they're like, they can't tell it. Am I mimicking her? Or she mimicking me? Like, we're like the same. I'm literally raising myself. Like, and she's just got, she's so sweet. I always wanted my daughter, even though she's pretty privileged, of course, because I wanted to spoil her, but I always wanted her to be very sweet. Yes. And she always checks on me like randomly. She'll come in and, mommy, are you okay? You know, and it's just at the perfect time when she does it. So she's just very like, just such a big heart. I love that about her. In Atlanta. Um, so you're in a suburb. Yes. Do you, does she go to private school? Well, let's just give her my address. Now, get the fuck off my house. Does she go to private school? Yes, she does. Okay. And is it, is it, uh, intensely competitive in Atlanta? Like it is in Los Angeles? Um, I'm sure it is. Um, her school is the perfect fit for her. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I definitely want to make sure as a parent, she is where she feels most confident. Um, you know, in her school, it's a very good school, very supportive. She's still a baby, so I didn't want her to go anywhere where it's too militant. You know what I mean? Is she still going to have some little hugs after snack time? First grade or kindergarten? First grade. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's first grade. That's cute. That's, that's a fun, fun age. I didn't tell which one is my favorite. Like I didn't, people say terrible twos. Hers was terrific too. So I love when she was two, you know, just being able to learn how to talk and like all of that. But six, she is my freaking best friend. I'm not going to lie to you. Like I'm the type, you know, even though I have friends and I have a lot of family, I like to take myself on dates. Like I will, you will randomly see me in Atlanta sitting by myself having a cocktail. Really? 100% take myself shopping, but she is my best date partner. Like we will go out to eat together. We've gone to Miami together. We've traveled to she and I, which I was scared to do it first because it's like when you have a little girl like that, it's like, am I going to bore her? You know what I mean? Like they can always look up to you and say, I'm on board. But we honestly had a really good time the first time we went on a vacation just she and I. No one, no help, no nothing. We went to Miami. I had to test it out. Okay. And, um, but we didn't go to Miami like regular people who visit Miami. We went to swim with the dolphins. We went to like the ice cream museum. Like we did all the things and we really had a ball. So I literally have my own built in best friend. Now I was talking to Andy this morning and he was saying that he's going to taking the kids skiing. Now I'm going to tell you that just seems like a lot of work with the, the rentals and the clothes and the, and the lessons and that just seems like you gotta let her other dad men rose other dad do that. It's just too much. No, no, no, you're going to go. You're going to have host. What you're going to do. You're going to call Lisa. Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City. Yes. Okay. And we're going to go together because when we just did ultimate girl's trip together, I love it. And I fell in love with her. Okay. I just love me some Lisa. So funny. She's the funniest person. Everything. So we fell in love and we were like, okay, you know what? She's like, come up here. I'm going to take Pilar from you. And I was like, girl, I don't know. She was like, no, bring Pilar. I'm going to host you. We're going to have a good time. So, you know, there was some drama that was starting on ultimate girls trip. And I was like, not between Lisa and I, we have dates planned. So I protect it. Do not come in between this. Do not come in between this. Okay. So we're going soon. This Andy, that's not going to be a vacation. Oh, he's going to be on the clock full time. Two kids. Yeah. Two is different. When he was talking about this, first of all, his kids are young. Yeah. They're the same age. They're the same age as Pilar. That's just going to be, he's going to need a vacation after the vacation, I think. Yeah. Or just some help to take a little break. You're going to need some help. You know what I mean? I think with two, you have to take a nanny with you just to be able to have a cocktail at some point. But he's taking them skiing and then going to Miami. Oh, which is weird. They might catch a cold. Change of weather like that. I don't know. You know from the South, whenever the weather is like bipolar like that in Atlanta right now, it's like hot and cold. All of us are sick. We can't deal with that. Do you have, Pilar, do you ever 50% of the time? Do you ever more? So I have Pilar the whole time. Her father gets her every other weekend or like now it's almost every weekend. So you're dealing with school drop offs every day. Oh yeah, I get up. So I was just saying that I get up now at 6am because Pilar has a new dog. So yeah, we had a Pomeranian already, which was peanut, moon pie, McKinley Williams, which was our one and only. And she wasn't really like taking care of him, although she was supposed to. And then my partner gave her her dog, which is a miniature, no, a teacup poodle. And so his name is Milo. So ever since Milo got there, I said, listen, you got real responsibility. I'm like, you're a single mother with two kids now. No. Okay. So she's a no joke. Okay. You need to be a parent. So now we get up at 6am so she can do her little thing. You know, we have this a fight every morning with her hair, but we get her hair done. She gets dressed and she, before she has her breakfast, she needs to go in and feed her kids, make sure they eat, make sure they are then taken outside to do their thing, bring them back inside, change their paper, put some more food down, and then you go on with your day. So she has her responsibility. So no, I'm the full, full time, everything. So when they turn around, because I think this is probably what happened to us. We used to, when Monroe was little, we could dress her any way we wanted. She looked like a little doll. Then they get to a certain age where they start complaining. It's too tight. It's itchy. I don't want to get any buttons. I don't want to. And now it is every day is a fucking fight. It's, I swear to God. Thank God for uniforms. It's a fight. Yeah. Okay. So me, everybody knows, you know, everybody used to call my baby Dennis with a bow, right? And she really is like, I loved her and bow. She, I should have started a bow line for her. Pilar's baby bows, but I didn't. And now do you know for her birthday, she had the nerve to tell me she did not want a bow. No. Y'all, I almost cried. I'm not lying. I was standing behind her in the mirror like, can that be? I said, can we just put in so what we ended up doing was just doing a clip. And by the time we got to the party and we started taking pictures of her, I looked at the pictures. She done took even the clips out. Now she just walking around with her hair out. So not even a ponytail. None. Jake just want to be free. And I think all her little girlfriends in the class been talking about it because her friend Mia, shout out to let Mia, her mom told us that she doesn't want her hair clips either. She doesn't want her hair in ponytails. They want her down and long. She's a bad influence. Oh, no. God wouldn't ponytails, Monroe won't do a ponytail either. No, she won't. She won't put her up out. And they claim it hurts. It hurts. That's what she says. It doesn't. It would be so much easier. We, I'm like, as I told her, I'm like, we won't have to brush your hair every five minutes. Yeah. If you just put in a ponytail. And you know, I've even tried to do the ponytail where you actually don't even do the rubber band, the band until after my hand. So I know it's not tight. So that's when I realized, okay, you just taking a stand. Yeah. You're just taking a real stand. Just wait, just wait until she turns nine. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. No, I'm going to corn roll that. They're uncomfortable. And it's like, we just bought these. You just tried them on four days ago and now they're too tight. Oh my God. How old is your daughter? Nine. Oh my God. I literally buy her shoes each week. Yeah. And I'm like, this is the same shoe. So what I do is she's by the same shoe on a bigger size each time. Like you're going to wear this style. I like this style with sequins. I like the way it lights up at the bottom. Yeah. So if your size one, we're going to now do a size one in the same shoe. Just wait for the growth spurts. We just, she just grew out of, she had a growth spurts. She grew out of every single thing in her closet. Bathing suit, underwear, dress, shoes, everything is gone. Yeah. To the point to where we just did the same thing. I just had her nanny take every single item out of her closet that says six, right? Because my daughter is tall. So she's basically eight, nine in her sizes. And I still can't let it go. Do you know those bags are still sitting downstairs? Cause I'm like, when she comes home, I should try some of it back on her. Maybe it still fits in my system. Like Portia, let it go. I know. I know. I had stuff in there too. In that closet. Maybe we need to have some more kids because I can't let this go. They're growing up too fast. She's so funny. I don't know. I don't know if I could do anymore. She wanted a game on her iPad last night or no, she has a game. She wanted an expansion thing on the game. And so she comes up and she says, daddy, can I have this? It's only $99.99. And Jeff was like, there's no way I'm getting an app for $100. She's like, okay, well then can I have the one for $8.99? And it was like, okay, so she's smart. She's smart. And I fell for it. She's big. That is good. And then settled right where you wanted them. Yep. She's so smart. You're right. And then I realized after I did that, she manipulated me. She wouldn't say yes to an app because he just bought her one like two days ago on the plane. And so she knew that you would say no, you just got a new app. Exactly. You're right. And now she's learned you. She'll be like, it's only $2.99. I go, it's $2.99 a month Monroe. We're not doing any month lease. Yes. Yeah, just wait till they start. You know what, now that you say that, I never even pay attention to this per month. I'm probably paying $2.99, $4.99, $5.99. You gotta be careful. Oh my gosh. Because they will not give you that information. But you know what, they don't teach them how to manipulate like that in school. This is a great life skill for her. I don't know where she's learning it. She's shaping it a little bit, but let her keep that. That's going to take her far in life. She is a hustler for sure. Okay, good negotiators. Are you doing carpool? I am doing carpool. How fun is that? I'm not a parent person. Yeah. I was like, well, first of all, if you see me on TV or if you see me out and then you see me in carpool, you would never recognize me. No, I'm the dad too. Yeah, I will ride straight up in there without my wig, no makeup on, jogging pants. I mean, they probably think I'm married again. Man, that's been driving me to a car. No, really. Really, the most I'll do is like, Polar, like I'm walking out like the other I was walking out. And she pointed up and now she was like, you're boning. I'm like, I'm taking you to school. What do you care what I look like? You know, but yeah, no, no, I don't, I don't socialize that much in the mornings, afternoons maybe. But wait a minute, do you not have to, you just pick up your daughter, you don't pick up other kids? No. See, we have to at our school. What? Who's that? They won't, they won't allow that because there's not enough, I guess, because it's a neighborhood. There's not enough parking. So you have to have one to two other kids with you when you drive in the gates. Okay. Yeah, that's not my ministry. Yeah. So they have space in Georgia and LA, it's like it's compact. Yeah, I see. You're not allowed to drive on unless you have three cars. Okay. So do you have to see the parents in the morning? Do they just leave them at the mailbox before you pick up? We have like a little, we have a little offsite. Now I don't do morning because I'm in the radio in the morning, but we have like an offsite meeting place and then the kids will jump in one car and we kind of rotate. I'll do pickups. So is she ready to go like already when you're pulling up, is she there standing there ready to jump in the car? Yeah, she's mostly there. Now if you are a minute behind 8.30, you have to then park and walk her all the way inside and you got to do this Hollywood stroll past all of the earlier classes and say hello to everybody before you get there. So when I tell you when it is time to leave to get there before 8.30, I am like a drill sergeant because I will not get out that car. No. So yeah. Smart. So I feel like maybe my daughter should work for Bravo because she also takes her sweet ass time showing up. She will have her talent there at 9.01 on the dot. Right. So you're right. I mean I can't be late, but then she can make me wait. Oh absolutely. She's training her environment. Oh she loves. No she is. They are. I mean we work for them. That's just how they go. Because she always makes sure that we're one of the first seven cars that go in, but then she will just take her time to just waltz down the steps. I pick up. She will take her very sweet time, but if we are not in the first run of cars, you will hear about it. So my daughter actually told me it was so funny because someday she wants to be free after school. She's like okay I want to go to after school. On course. I want to go on course. And so this one day she got in the car and I guess I got there a little too late, but I'm like 4.35 o'clock. What's the difference? That's a big difference. Low key I could get you at six. So me black. Can we on course the on course? Exactly. Okay that's my benefit. I want my whole 50 dollars worth. So but she checked me and she said mother, she said mommy, she said I would like you to pick me up at 4.38. Now I don't know what it is about 4.38 like the exact time, but she knew exactly what time she wanted to be picked up. And so I spread it amongst everybody. I was like listen if you pick up Polaris it's got to be 4.38. And you know what I think about now? I don't think she's ever checked the clock, but we all are very much prompt to 4.38. How many nannies do you have? Do you have somebody every day? I have one. Yes I do. One nanny. One. Okay. Do you have Saturday and Sunday too? No she's off on the weekends. So it's all you on the weekends? It's all me on the weekends. She's an au pair. So she lives with me. She lives with me. So she kind of fills in a lot you know if I need her, if I have to go to work, like if I have to do housewife interviews, different things I do outside. She's there to you know, fill in and stuff like that. Does she have a playroom in addition to her bedroom? No. So her playroom is large enough that it has a playroom within it. So her, she has like this little cove where her bed is and then she also has this big playroom in front of it. Fun. Yeah. She's got all that. And we just re-organized, that's another thing. I don't know if you had to do that, but reorganize these toys. So we had to go through and take out, oh my God. It's so sad. No and she's like. Riddles. The dolls and I know. And when I finally realized I was like, okay, she looks like Andre the Giant compared to her kitchen set. I got to get rid of the kitchen set. I know. It was sad. It was really, really sad. But we did, we had to get rid of everything and make room for her big girl toys. It's so funny because she has this really tiny little art table with tiny little chairs. And she's like, Daddy, can we get a bigger table when we move? I'm like, I don't want to give it up. I know. But she looks ridiculous in that chair now. You know, they do. You know the little shark chairs? You know, they have like baby shark or Minnie Mouse. She used to eat her dinner in that and one day I didn't realize she was too big for it until she was sitting to the side. I'm like, turn around and sit into the chair. She was like, I can't. I was like, oh my God. Time to get rid of baby shark chair. It was sad. It's sad. But you know. No, can I ask you, and you don't want to talk about it if you don't want to, but I had read after BravoCon you were on a flight from Vegas to Atlanta. And what happened? So it was wild. So first of all, it's my fault. Let me go ahead and just do this clamor as I should have had my earphones. Okay. I should have had the earphones. Actually, they probably were even in my bag. But I intended on going to sleep because BravoCon, now I'm an introvert. No one really believes that I'm an introvert, but I swear to you, I really am. So I was highly overstimulated, overwhelmed, like really tired after BravoCon. It's a lot. Yes, it is. We love it, but it's a lot. So my plan was to get on the plane and go to sleep, right? But I had just done this major performance with Andy. It was a magic show, and I've got cut in half and all that, and it had just hit online. So as soon as I sat down, I was checking my phone and I saw it. And I was like, ooh, they posted it. Let me see me get cut. So as soon as I sat down, I turned the volume up because Andy sings on that number, which you know, I don't want to see him sing or whatever. I turned it up a little bit, maybe like, I don't know, a couple seconds worth because it only took that long to slice me in half. And by the time I turned it up and was looking at it like, okay, oh, getting the vibe. I had just turned the phone to decide to get a better look. The lady was like, are you going to be listening to that? Am I going to have to listen to that the whole time? And I'm like, do you want to? Do you want to watch? Do you want to? You want to share? And she did not like that. And she was looking at me like, you know, she was like, what do you mean? And I said, well, you know, that's fine. I'll turn it down, like not a thing. And I said, you know what? So 2026, I'm like, you know what? Speak up for yourself. If people are nasty, you know, just you can correct people in a nice way. So I turned back to her and I said, you know, there was a nicer way you could have said that to me, just like that. Just like, you know, there's a nicer way you could have said it. Instead of me just eating it. I just said, it was a nicer way you could have said that. Right. She said, bitch. No. Yes. She called you a bitch. 100%. She said, bitch, you don't tell me what to do. Oh. She said, and what are you doing up here? And I said, huh? What? I'm looking at her. I said, what? So mind you, I'm saying, like, wait, this isn't real. Like, the one time I tried to speak up for myself and actually say it very nicely, you know, you don't have to speak to me like that. And I get called a bitch. I was like, in shock. And from that point on, she just went off. Who the F do you think you are? You know, all of this, she went in on me. OK. And, you know, none of the housewife and me kicked in. I literally was like, in shock. I was just sitting there like, so I started to say, I said, you can't do this. Like, why are you talking? I said, people are watching. You can't just be talking to me like this. You know, I wanted people to turn around and see what was going on. Anyway, it just she just went crazy. Anyway, the security, but the stewardess came over and they were like, OK, we have to remove her. You know, they put her in a chair behind me. They moved her seat. When they moved her seat, she was really upset about that. And it was just this whole big thing about nothing for nothing. I almost thought, did someone send this person? And and that's pretty much what it was. And I got off the plane and I gave my little, you know, what happened to the police officer and the police officer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You cannot have some type of ruckus. So anyway, by the end of it, they I talked to them and it was pretty much done. Like it was like case closed really quickly. It wasn't like a thing. I think she didn't like Andy singing. She was like, turn that shit off. Well, I could. Yeah, I understand. No, I don't know if it was just I don't. I have no excuse, actually. But I just want to go to sleep. I just want to just watch my little. So she. They kept her on the plane. They didn't remove her. No, no, we both, you know, walked off freely. It was fine. But yeah, it was it was a lot. Wow. I was I witnessed an altercation on an airline where this guy was just a nasty, nasty racist and went off on someone and they weren't going to remove him. And the guy had immediately calmed down and was being as polite, but I had witnessed the way what he'd spoke, what he said, the things he said and how he said it. So when they came around, I'm like, hey, look, I just witnessed this. He said what happened was, is the guy that was the recipient of the yelling. He he elected to just leave the flight. He didn't even want to be on this plane anymore. But I had said, I'm like, this guy said this, did this. All right. And he was looking at me. You were like adamant about saying, yeah, I got his house banned from Delta. Well, then I said, look, the pilot came by and I said, look, I just witnessed this whole altercation. I said, if this guy acts up again in the air, this is on you. Right. I said, this this is your responsibility at this point. OK, call to action. And then it took what we delay the flight like 30 minutes and they they had they had taken off, they spoke to him. Then he came back on the flight and we still he's remained on the flight. But the other guy got off the flight. Yes. Some people can't handle that. Lord, that little cocktail I told you about that we think in the airplane and the airport. Some people can't handle it. Us fund drunks should have our own plane. Yeah, exactly. Let the fund go in the Vegas. If you're going to Vegas, I think people are probably mad coming back from Vegas. But head to Vegas is such a front flight. Everybody's like ready to go party. We need to take a break. We probably should talk about real Houseways of Atlanta. Right. Yeah, what happened? Get the Google Pixel 10 Pro XL on the UK's best network. Press to talk out live with Gemini, your AI assistant from Google and find out how to revive that plant. Yeah, we've all been there. Plus, you'll stay connected even when you run out of data. Get yours on EE today. Results for illustrative purposes and may vary. Check responses for accuracy, eligibility, credit check and terms of life credit by EE limited. Verify best network at EE.cadk.claims. We are traders fans. Sorry. Massive. I was very disappointed that you left in the second episode. I know. Me too. I really was. I had a lot of cute outfits to show y'all. That's what I was so upset about. Literally, Kean was saying that today, that you probably had all of these incredible outfits. I did. All the suitcases and suitcases of clothes. On top of itself, I mean, like, it was bittersweet. It really was. I mean, on top of me really wanting to be the best faithful ever, I really wanted to wear my outfits. Like, I had moments. I knew there was going to be a ball area, you know, a big dinner. I knew there were going to be these big events. And I just, I was just so upset. And then I travel so far, you know, but it's just I really just feel like I probably overextended myself a bit much as a faithful. I wanted to be the faithful of faithfuls. Like, I wanted to really lead the charge and lead the pack and like be aggressive and find the trader, you know, the number one. It just. But Porsche, do you make the same money? Yeah. For what? So you get the same money if you're there for one episode or 10 episodes. You know, I don't know. I was just there for the love of it. You know what I mean? I don't care about money. Brittany Haines told us that there's certain like steps, like if you make it to the top 10 or the top five, then it's like different benchmarks. But I don't I don't know what's true for everybody, but I don't think that's true. Yeah. If I could just get the same check, I don't care. No, I think that's the best case for you is just to go for like two apps and be like or two hours. One year. So here's the thing. A lot of a lot of game shows, you do get your check. You know what I mean? You know, you get your check, you can make more maybe for charity. Like when I did celebrity print, did you get your check? Then you make more money for your celebrity, for your charity, charity or whatever. But when I did traders, I really wasn't a big fan of it before. But when I found out, I watched every episode and I became obsessed. Like me and my daughter and my niece, Bailey, we were watching it nonstop. So when I got there, I was fully invested. I mean, you really when I got banished, I actually felt like I was never going to see anybody again. I had to go live on a on a hill by myself. Like it becomes really real to you while you're there. And Alan really puts the stakes there. Like, it's like, are you going to get murdered? Are you this? Are you that? And even though I have just met these people and I don't know them from a can of paint, you feel like you trust them. You know what I mean? And then for me, I was I'm a housewife, so there are other housewives there. So I felt like I could trust the housewives. So you really get wrapped into it. And it's not just a game. It becomes real as hell. We were talking a little bit at the break about how you are kind of the perfect example of how to handle things when if you are let go or put on pause or fired. I mean, you were initially you were on season five and six of Real Housewives of Atlanta, you became a friend of on season seven, but then you were a main cast member again, eight seasons, eight through 13. You then were put on pause for 14 and 15. Now, who was put on pause? Right. No, I was not. No. What happened? No, I wasn't put on pause. No, I spent half of the season. I was a housewife. And then the other half of the season, I wasn't a housewife. But no, I was never put on pause. I've always been full time and to just kind of, you know, pat my back. Even on a half of semi pause, I still was the number one storyline. I was the only one that they talked about that entire season anyway. So no, I've never been on pause like that. No, never. So even in 14 and 15, you were still you still appeared. Oh, 100 percent. Oh, and I know it's not more screen time than anyone else. Yeah, 100 percent. So when I turned 40, I decided that I was going to retire. I said, you know what, I want to live in real life. I want to give myself a break from the cameras. And, you know, I had my daughter at that point. Yes. And so I knew that I that was going to be my last season for me at that moment. I knew that already. And so then I took what Andy says is just a break. You know, he was not taking my, you know, letter of resignation at all. He was like, it's just a break, girl. So this was truly your decision. Oh, 100 percent. I did not know that. Everyone says they want to focus on family. Because they all they may have. Everybody lies. So you just assume they're all lying. So here's the thing. Um, I know I'm not lying because I actually prepared my finances to do so. I was very intentional with my finances to make sure that I'm covered, you know, and make sure that my future is secure with or without Housewives check. So for me, it was a very, it was a very intentional choice to spend time with my daughter, which was good. Those three years were great. So were you on Dish Nation then? So I was on Dish Nation for eight years. And I right before that, no, I left Dish Nation around the same time. Like right after I left Housewives, I also left Dish Nation. But then also you just did traders. And then what other shows have you done? So I did chat room. So I did chat room with Giselle Bryant. And I also did stars on Mars. Stars on Mars. I got really far on stars on Mars. And I've done, you know, I probably can't even sit here and remember all the shows. If you had this intention to take time off, then what brought you back? So what brought me back was I did Ultimate Girls Trip Thailand. I don't know if you remember that. So it was me, Giselle. It was some of the Salt Lake City girls. It was Candace Dillard, some of the New York girls. And, you know, for me, I've done Atlanta, which is a different type of production. And with those girls, there's a different type of energy. And Ultimate Girls Trip was just very free spirited. It really was like I didn't feel like anybody came in with any type of motive. I didn't feel like overly pressured to do drama. And I felt like when I was talking to the producers, it was very collaborative, you know, like, oh, this is what we should do today. And we would talk about it. And that's what would happen. So when I talked back with Bravo, because of course I checked in each year or they checked in with me or, you know, how that goes. I talked about imagining a relationship with those more collaborative. You know, if I come back, can I break that fourth wall? You know, can I really just 100 percent be myself? If I have to have a conversation with someone and I want to wait to have the conversation, can I do that? If I want to live my if I want this to be what I want to show on the show, can I show that? And they were all for it. They really were. So when I came back, I felt more able to be exactly who I am at this moment. Do you ever feel because I, you know, I watch all the housewife shows and I, I personally, I can't control my anger, right? I have issues controlling my anger. So what I do is I try not to put myself in situations where people trigger me. Yeah. How you do that, I don't know how you can put yourself in this situation and be as calm and cool and collected as you are. I don't know how you do it. So it's not a born skill, right? Because we're born with all these emotions. We're born to feel angry. We're born to feel excited, you know, sad, et cetera. And we can show those in different ways physically or by lashing out or whatever. Over time, I learned and through some counseling that that's just an emotion. But the power that I have is in how I control that emotion. So even if you look at, let's say last year's reunion of housewives, you know, I was that was very hard for me. That was very difficult for me to go through that reunion and talk about things that angered me, things that upset me, deal with certain situations that I would want to lash out about. But I felt more power on that reunion by holding my space and using my words and communicating and like really being understood. So it may take me longer to say what I want to say, the more upset I am. But I'm going to be able to do that in a space of control. And that way I keep my power and I give it to the person who's trying to take it from me. So honestly, this season, listen, on housewives, there is some moments where it goes up and down, but that's just my voice. I control my environment. Do you feel, I know that I do, do you feel a responsibility when you have these, you know, this little child that's kind of looking up at you and emulating your behavior? You know, we have a responsibility, right? So does that, does does that come across your mind when when you're in a situation like it sounds like on the Delta Airlines flight? Yeah, sounds like you handled yourself very well. Yeah, right. Where your daughter would be proud of how you handled it. Now, we could have handled things differently. Yeah. Right. And I'm just curious, does that, does that, does that come to mind like, oh, I have this little girl that is that is emulating everything I do. So when you're in the moment of being upset, no, I'm not thinking about Pilar. I'm actually thinking about whoever that is, that is trying to take me somewhere else where I don't want to go. Yeah. So if you're sitting here and you're arguing with me and you're trying to take me to a place where we have a screaming match and I know I don't want to have one, then I don't do it. When I think about Pilar, it's over all of my life. It's over my whole journey. I've been on a show for 10 plus years. She's going to grow up and see all of that. So what I would like her to get from that is to show that mommy has growth. Mommy has gotten to a place to where she deals with certain situations when it's in front of her. She grows from them. I've been through tough things. I've learned from them. If she can watch me live my life and be resilient and still come out and be a very loving, kind, fun person, that's all I want for her. Because that's real life at the end of the day. Like she's not going to just live her life and everything's going to be hunky dory, no matter if I was a school teacher. So she's going to go through stuff. And I like the fact that she's going to see mommy deal with rough times and how I handle them in the end. Do you ever get angry with yourself? Because I know I do. Like once in a while, I'll regress and I mishandle something and I get so angry with myself and just beat the shit out of myself. Do you do that? You know what? Because I can't do I have days where I just literally want to scream, of course. Right. And I have days where I have mishandled even a person. It doesn't have to be a huge blow up situation. You can be talking to somebody. You may say something and you know you didn't say it right. So what I do now, I am so accountable and it helps me sleep very good. If I'm talking to someone and I have handled something wrong, I will actually call them and say, hey, you know what? I was wrong when I did this or I was wrong when I said that. Well, you know what? I did this and I realized it affected you in this way. And even to bring it on to Housewives, because even though Housewives is about entertainment and we sensationalize the crazy moments, I've tried to be very responsible with the friendships I had this season. Even old friendships, I tried to be very responsible. I tried to communicate. I tried to if there's an issue, we deal with it right here. If it's a girl who I'm really trying to befriend, because you know we have new girls on the show, right? So I'm trying to befriend them, but I don't want to go through the same bullshit that I've been through with other friendships. So I'm like, listen, this is how I friend. I'm very honest. If you have an issue with me, please tell me, you know, I'm here to support you. If you ever feel I'm not supporting you, please tell me. I never want to be in a situation with someone where they're not getting from me what they need and I'm not getting from them. And we're just having a fake friendship. What about in a situation in this? We see this a lot in Housewives, where someone is just completely unaccountable 24 seven. You can't break. You can't get through to them. Yeah. What do you do at that point? What do you do? I mean, for me, like in real life, yeah, you can't have a relationship with someone like that. You just can't. Yeah. You know, there is someone on the show and it's not it's not my ex best friend, but there is someone else on the show where I just realized, you know what? This girl, she just doesn't want to know me. She doesn't want to relate to me. And once you realize that, then you just say, OK, that's cool. I mean, thank God this season has 10 plus women on the show. There's other women to be friends with. There's other women to kick it with. So me at the end of the day, I really did not want this season to be dark. You know, we have had dark seasons. Yeah. So even though me and this particular girl don't get along, I don't like her. She probably don't like me or whatever that is. If there's a moment to Kiki and she's sitting next to me and she say something funny, am I going to laugh? Yeah, I go in and damn laugh. If I say something funny, does she laugh? She laughs too. So, you know, it's kind of like up and down. I really try to just be diplomatic and just be more and communicate better with the girls. And like I said, even if it's something I didn't like, I still just enjoyed the moment as much as I could. I really did. So Real Housewives of Atlanta airs. When is it airs? It airs this Sunday, this Sunday, April 5th. The premiere. On Bravo. OK. And then the next day you can stream it on Peacock. Exactly. I do want to ask you about the the opening party in episode one. You were with a very handsome, very tall man. Yes, he was tall. Did. And then what happened to him? Did you see him after that? Did you go out with him afterwards? I know that you had a previous. Didn't you date him previously, like nine months prior? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Let's get away from timelines here. And shout out to my sister, Lauren, who was the loudest. Give us the timeline. Oh, I'm going to get you for that. I'm going to get you because I'm horrible with timelines. So it probably was wrong. But anyway, yeah, we had dated prior a long time ago. And yeah, he is on the rest of the season. Yeah. Oh, he is. Yeah. Yeah, you will see him. How many episodes is like 18, 20, something like that? It depends on how they edit it. I don't know. OK. You mean how many of the housewives this season? No, I was wondering how many episodes. Now, there are a lot of housewives and there's two. It's two new ones, right? We have Pinky Cole and then is it Kaye Michelle, but we call her Puddin. Puddin, yeah. Yeah. I mean, their characters, those two, they really are. I mean, and you know what I like about them? Unlike if you can look at the past of us having, you know, new housewives come on the show, they were already established. Yeah. And I love that. Yes. Because they don't come in hot. They don't come in thirsty. They come in wanting you to get to know them, you know. And so I really like that about them. And like you said, yes, they do both have very big personalities and they're both very different. Now, who was the the woman that walked in and she had a virtual date, which was so weird. There was somebody that drew drew Sidor. Yeah, that was so odd. And what what guy would do that? One face time for three for three hours at a dinner. And it might have been a little longer than three hours. Yeah. And he kept the same smile the whole time. Like it's I don't. I thought it was on pause, you know, but he was like, yeah, was it? Yeah, he's dedicated. Do you have someone that is always leaving you waiting? Who me leave me waiting? No, like of all the house, the housewives, the cast, your cast members. I mean, we're still talking about Drew, right? Yes. So Drew, Drew, Drew said that she has time blindness. And we really worked with her this season on it. And I think by the end of the season, she was much better. OK, yeah. And I want to say she said it was like an actual diagnosis. So then we, you know, had patients with her. But yeah, I would like an illness of some kind, an affliction, an actual disorder of blind of time blindness. Oh, come on. Yeah, I'm not lying. For real. Now, I was happy to see Cynthia Bailey back. We love we love her. Don't you love Cynthia Bailey? She's a regular on the show. We love her. She's such a bad bitch. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis live every weekday on Serious XM, as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the Serious XM app. Crisp, vibrant and bursting with citrus. Villamiria's New Zealand, Sylvignon Blanc is the perfect wine made to be enjoyed on every occasion. 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