Hollywood Raw Podcast

Deuxmoi is Back! We Talk Tips, Sightings, Setups, Summer House Drama, Taylor's Wedding, and MORE

65 min
Apr 8, 202611 days ago
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Summary

Dax Holt and Adam Glenn interview Deuxmoi (Dew), the anonymous celebrity gossip account operator, discussing Summer House drama, the Amanda-Wes scandal, Taylor Swift's wedding planning, and insights into how celebrity paparazzi culture and PR actually work in Hollywood.

Insights
  • Celebrity gossip accounts operate as legitimate news sources with editorial standards—Deuxmoi verifies sources, refuses anonymous tips without follow-up, and corrects misinformation when celebrities push back with their own accounts
  • Most celebrities actively participate in their own publicity through paparazzi coordination and tip-offs because relevance directly translates to career opportunities, endorsement deals, and financial viability
  • The distinction between 'called paparazzi' and 'organic sightings' is blurred; celebrities strategically choose hotels and venues knowing photographers will be present, creating plausible deniability while securing free publicity
  • Social media engagement metrics now drive editorial decisions—what gets posted depends on what performs well, meaning audience interest directly shapes celebrity coverage rather than newsworthiness alone
  • Celebrity PR and gossip accounts operate in a symbiotic relationship; publicists rarely reach out aggressively because they understand the account's influence and audience reach
Trends
Decline in Kardashian coverage and audience interest despite their historical dominance in celebrity news cyclesRise of emerging celebrities (Brooke Shields, Timothée Chalamet) replacing traditional A-listers in audience engagement metricsStrategic hotel selection as celebrity publicity tool—the Bowery, Greenwich Hotel, and Lowell used for different image positioning and photographer accessNewsletter-based celebrity news distribution gaining traction as alternative to traditional social media platformsIncreased legal scrutiny around paparazzi content sourcing, particularly regarding invasion of privacy and filming through windowsCelebrity-to-celebrity gossip participation—high-profile figures actively leak information through burner accounts and direct messagesShift from traditional paparazzi to fan-based autograph seekers and content creators as primary source of unwanted celebrity documentationTaylor Swift wedding secrecy protocols creating information vacuum that drives speculation and tip submissions to gossip accountsSummer House reality TV drama generating mainstream media coverage (Fox News, Page Six) from celebrity gossip account reportingAuthenticity and transparency in celebrity coverage becoming competitive advantage for independent gossip accounts versus traditional media
Topics
Summer House cast drama and reunion preparationAmanda and Wes relationship announcement and infidelity allegationsTaylor Swift wedding planning and guest list speculationCelebrity paparazzi coordination and publicity strategiesDeuxmoi account operations and source verification methodsKim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton relationship authenticityBlake Lively sexual harassment lawsuit ruling and public statementsCelebrity hotel selection as image positioning toolPaparazzi versus fan-based celebrity documentationReality TV scandal impact on show ratings and cast relevanceCelebrity PR and publicist relationship dynamicsInvasion of privacy in celebrity surveillance and filmingSocial media engagement metrics driving editorial decisionsCelebrity gossip account credibility and journalistic standardsEmerging celebrity relevance and audience interest shifts
Companies
Bravo
Summer House and Winter House reality TV shows discussed as context for cast drama and scandal coverage
Page Six
Traditional celebrity news outlet that covers stories broken by Deuxmoi and other gossip accounts
TMZ
Referenced as established celebrity gossip outlet competing with independent accounts like Deuxmoi
Fox News
Reached out to Hollywood Raw Podcast regarding Kyle Cook interview coverage of Summer House drama
Us Weekly
Traditional celebrity magazine that covers stories sourced from gossip accounts and paparazzi
People
Deuxmoi (Dew)
Anonymous celebrity gossip account operator with 6-year relationship with hosts; discusses source verification and co...
Dax Holt
Co-host conducting interview with Deuxmoi about celebrity gossip, paparazzi culture, and entertainment news trends
Adam Glenn
Co-host discussing Summer House drama, Kyle Cook interview, and celebrity paparazzi coordination strategies
Kyle Cook
Summer House cast member interviewed by Adam Glenn; interview went viral with significant media coverage
Lindsay Hubbard
Summer House cast member who unfollowed Deuxmoi over misreported sighting at Zero Bond restaurant on Easter
Amanda Batula
Summer House cast member at center of scandal involving alleged video of intimate encounter with Wes Smurda
Wes Smurda
Summer House cast member in relationship with Amanda; allegedly seen with multiple women between August 2025 and Marc...
Ciara Miller
Summer House cast member allegedly shown intimate video by neighbor; photographed crying in Meatpacking District afte...
Taylor Swift
Planning wedding with significant secrecy; Deuxmoi receiving tips about date and location but withholding details for...
Blake Lively
Sexual harassment lawsuit ruling discussed; used dragon emoji in statement potentially referencing Taylor Swift conne...
Kim Kardashian
Discussed as example of declining celebrity coverage despite historical dominance in entertainment news
Lewis Hamilton
Dating Kim Kardashian; relationship discussed as authentic despite initial visual skepticism from hosts
Tom Brady
Photographed with Alex Earl in St. Barts; allegedly avoided her at Zero Bond party in Las Vegas
Alex Earl
Photographed with Tom Brady; team allegedly pushing narrative of relationship through strategic photo releases
Brooke Shields
Identified by Deuxmoi as emerging celebrity of interest; won Hollywood Raw Dog Awards for celebrity work twice
Sebastian Stan
Discussed as celebrity frequently photographed around Bowery Hotel area by 'Bowery Boys' photographer crew
Hugh Jackman
Referenced as example of celebrity with predictable schedule (school drop-offs) leading to consistent paparazzi coverage
Lucy Hale
Discussed as celebrity with disproportionately high paparazzi coverage despite not calling photographers
Armie Hammer
Allegedly shared story about A-list news anchor at sex club; story later revealed to be secondhand information
Quotes
"There's a lot I keep in. There is a lot I fucking keep in that I don't speak publicly about."
DeuxmoiMid-interview
"Being relevant equals dollar signs. It equals parts in movies. It equals endorsement deals. It equals their livelihood."
DeuxmoiDiscussion of celebrity paparazzi coordination
"I'm not a hotline. There's – it does happen, and when it does happen, I'm not trying to out the people."
DeuxmoiDiscussing celebrity tip-offs to paparazzi
"Everyone lies. The lies are so crazy. The public statements that are lies is so crazy."
DeuxmoiDiscussion of celebrity statements and denials
"If you're not at the point where you're super mega A-list that you don't need to be seen or you don't need to be in paparazzi pictures to get work, that's great. But I don't think that's a majority of Hollywood."
DeuxmoiDiscussing celebrity publicity needs
Full Transcript
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So much summer house news. She's deeply involved. She's getting photos sent to her. She's getting tips left and right. So we said let's bring her on. So very excited to have her back on today. Adam, so stick around. We'll get to that. Adam, how are you doing, bud? I'm good. I'm good. I've been so in just embracing the Summer House news story. So I'm slowly getting out of it because I feel like the interview I did with Kyle Cook, if you saw I did a three-part interview. I mean, how has anyone not seen it? It has been all over the internet. Everywhere I look, there's someone talking about your interview or there's now like products popping up of Carl's a mess from comments from the video. I mean, it's just it really got a life of its own. It did. I think it just calmed the situation, calmed the nerves on people like what's going on. So I was glad I got to do it. Yesterday I got – I was on the street and I see Mum Dami talking about it. So yeah, the mayor of New York City doing it. I'm just getting hit up by – Fox News just texted me. as I'm talking to you. Do they want the video? I guess they want to do something like that. Why did I say you got David Spade? Got David Spade. He didn't want to talk. He said, can't talk. Carl's a mess. It's just so funny what's become. But yeah, things are good. I'm excited to talk to Dude today on the podcast. Dude, we haven't spoke to in a while. Every time we talk, we always keep talking off camera because we just want to fill each other on so much stuff. So yeah, she's great. talk to do. I got a lot of questions for do. Do we want to get right into it? Do you want to read a review? Let me read a review. Okay. This one's comes from, let's see, Joel and Nava, maybe Joel and Nava. Anyway, the title says don't usually write reviews, but, and then five stars, one of my favorite podcasts, the first one I click when they're posted Wednesdays and Fridays, but can you bring back interviews or deep dives? It's starting to feel like there's two raw rundowns a week. Thanks, guys. Well, lucky for you, we have an interview today. So, yes, we've got do coming on who I'm very, very excited about. Like I said, if you have never been to Dumois' Instagram handle, you have been missing out. She also now has a newsletter that you can subscribe to. But it is really one of those glorious websites, Instagram pages that started many years ago. and it was like literally a private and you had to be requested in and then it has just blown up and she gets so many tips and photos and sightings and all these kinds of things that she has grown into a massive, massive account. She also has a podcast. So good friend of ours. And we're going to bring her back on. Let's just bring her in now. Why even wait? Let's just bring her in. Dude, thank you so much for coming back on. It has been way too long. I was thinking about it talking to Adam, I'm like, we haven't had Dewan in like years at this point. And we have been friends with you for what, like six years, five, six years, something like this. Thank you so much for coming on. A very excited talk to you. I think there's so much going on in the entertainment world. I think all the summer house stuff, I know Adam wants to dive in with you. So thank you again for joining us. Yes, of course. I don't, I don't really do podcasts anymore. I told you guys, But for you guys, I said yes immediately. So anyone listening who I said no to recently, don't take it personally. I've known these guys a long time. They've been day one supporters. So yeah, huge fans of you and what you've done over the I mean, now it's been so long. You've been doing it. It's pretty impressive. And it just keeps growing and growing. I mean, first people weren't really giving you the love, but now they're accepting on red carpets. And it's good for people to realize what's going on in the world of entertainment news. and the great job that you are doing over there and you and your team. So it's pretty impressive. I want to start with you about obviously the most trending show online right now, Summer House. We're recording this on a Tuesday. This is going to come out on Wednesday. What's the latest with Summer House? I know Lindsay unfollowed. You were in some Lindsay – I don't want to call it drama. It was just maybe some misunderstanding. And she was very vocal about like, hey, she wanted to prove a point. Basically, Lindsay was at zero bond and she was trying to prove a point. I wasn't talking about Summer House the entire time. So she's very vocal about that. We'll get into that. But what do you think? I don't know the story. What is the story? I'll tell the story. So first of all, Lindy and I are very friendly. We're not like feuding. There's no beef. I think that everyone on the Summer House cast's emotions are running really high right now. And she was reactive to something that she saw that upset her, which is like totally her right, obviously. But there's no beef. I just want to make that clear. Like people were like, you're fighting with Lindsay. We're not fighting. Like we've been friendly for six years. Like, you know what I mean? Like I've known Lindsay, like known in quotes for a long time. So basically somebody saw her at zero bond on Easter. And what I was doing is And just, you know, kind of like any sightings I was getting of the cast over the weekend, I was posting because I thought that people would be interested in where everyone was and what they were doing in the aftermath of the announcement of Wes and Amanda being a couple or whatever they are. I don't even really even know like what the announcement sort of articulated. but I am hearing that they are telling or he's telling insiders that they're like together. Although I don't think the statement really made that clear. So anyway, I was posting sightings of all the cast and one sighting came in of her at Zero Bond on Easter and the person didn't quote her. They just said that they had overheard her talking about the reunion and that she was getting ready for the reunion and she was coming in hot. That's all they said. And she saw that and said it was a lie and then proceeded to explain that what she really said about the reunion. So at first she said, I didn't talk about the reunion at all. And then she said, well, actually, this is what I said about the reunion. So because of her like initial reactive statement, calling it a lie, everyone took that and ran with it. But in reality, she wasn't really being accurate by saying she wasn't talking about it at all because she did talk about it. She remembered after the word. She goes, oh, wait, maybe I did have a conversation. Exactly. But it was like too late because social media loves drama. And then, you know, she messaged me that night and she's like, this is what I said. And I wasn't going to really do anything with it. But the next morning I woke up and I was like page six was covering her quote. I was like, this is so stupid because it's not even true. Yeah, it was pretty dumb. I was surprised to see how much press that actually got. And I got to give you credit because you sort of changed it immediately. Like, hey, she spoke up and you kind of changed the narrative of what exactly happened. You said, no, here's what's coming exactly from Lindsay's mouth from her perspective. So I got to give you – I commend you on that because when you're not – again, we've all made mistakes as journalists as far as from sources and stuff sometimes we get it i'm not saying you got it wrong by any chance i'm just saying you just want to clarify exactly what happened you kind of you do that you do a great job at that um but what it was funny how much press that story oh my god it was so ridiculous it was like it was yeah it's because her mouthing off to me like gets like page six and us weekly like wet in the pants or something So it's like, that's what it is. It's so stupid. And I wasn't, I was just annoyed. I was going to let it ride. I wasn't even going to post her DM in her own words saying she did actually talk about the reunion. But then I was like, fuck this. Like, I am so sick of this shit. So I just did it. Because I, there's, you guys, there's a lot I keep in. There is a lot I fucking keep in that I don't speak publicly about. And this was just one thing that I just had to clarify. who's been who's been a celeb that's like pretty nasty in your dms because i know that i have covered a lot of celebs in the last 20 years of working in the entertainment world and i've had people upset even though i'm reporting on a hundred percent true stories they just didn't like that i reported on it well they and then they lie and they say it's not true everyone lies it's like the lies are so crazy this so the public statements that are lies the amount of public statements that are lies is so crazy um nobody's been mean one celebrity was mean i've written about her in my book a non-please which came out in 2022 but i still reference it because she's in the because that interaction or like a fictionalized version of that interaction is in the book and it's been one celebrity one and to this day i refuse to even post like even if she wears like a a good outfit on the red carpet or like has great street style which she does i refuse to to post her because she was just so nasty and like you don't you don't say who it is or what i don't say who it is but but we all know it's no no okay it's not all right we won't talk about lindsay lohan like that then no lindsay oh my god No, Lindsay Lohan is a sweetheart. No. Yeah. No, no, no. So, all right, I want to go right back to Summer House. So what do you know about the video that Sierra has? Okay, so basically somebody sent me an anonymous email at the beginning of the month or like sort of mid-month, And it said, I'm, it said, I saw Amanda and West making out in West's apartment, signed West's neighbor. Now, because this came in anonymously, although they did, I think they did leave a real email. I don't remember, but I saw this come in and I was like, listen, this is such a sensitive, hot topic right now. I can't report on anonymously submitted emails. Like I can't that, that, you know, I need to have a conversation with this person. And at the time, um, I just didn't pursue it. And then weeks later it came out that I'm assuming it's the same person had seen what they had said they'd seen in the email, them in his apartment hooking up. I guess they took a video and I think they re I don't know this part cause I'm not involved in this part, but I think they reached out to Ciara. She went over to this girl's apartment and she showed her the video because I think what I had heard is that the girl didn't want to send it. I don't know how graphic this video or these pictures are, but technically that's like sharing porn, you know, or there's like some legality there. And the girl was smart. She said, I'm not going to send it to you. So I think Ciara, this is the story I heard. Okay. I just, I don't know if it's accurate. CR went to her apartment and showed her the video. Shift into spring at Edwards Nissan, least the 2026 Nissan Pathfinder SV, a third row SUV starting at just three 99 a month. That's the 2026 Pathfinder SV starting at just three 99 a month with 1,699. Do it signing. Don't let spring pass you by get to Edwards Nissan and shift into something new. 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Learn more at edwardshyundai.com. It pays to make the drive to Edwards Hyundai. $1,999. I was going to say, and beyond that, I think there's a, like, I know from working in this industry a long time, you couldn't shoot through windows into people's houses. So there might be that aspect as well as the invasion of privacy of, like, looking into someone's house that, like, that would not be smart for her to try to share or sell or anything. Right. I mean, the girl, whoever this girl is, I mean, and I think I think it is a woman is is smart that she didn't send it. So, yeah, but also super creepy to be filming through. I mean, listen, when I'm in New York, I am like, how do you guys all live like this where you literally can just look in all of your neighbors apartments? It is wild. I don't know how to do that. Well, just to know which – to be able to see visually into his apartment clear and see that is just a wild thing. And again, I heard similar to the same thing. There a legal thing about the video where I think one side or there a certain party that has to do with this is looking to the legality of all this because of it was sort of invasive invasion of privacy um the reunion is becoming a big conversation has the reunion date been changed because of everything or they're still planning to do that on the same date i think it's the 22nd or 23rd of april okay and uh yeah i mean it's so funny because i saw there's a story that's saying uh amanda still plans to be there of course she is i mean they have she has to yeah she has to it was like it was like a no story but they make a story to nothing are you getting are you getting any tips of wes and amanda out being seen together are they even still together at this point or did this well news blow up the world and they were like what what are we doing i think that once their statement dropped, they were still together. But I've uncovered the fact that he's been seeing a multitude of women between the months of August 2025 and March 2026. So I don't know if that's information that she knew prior. I don't know the nature of their relationship. I don't have any real background besides the fact that they like quote unquote hooked up which you know friends hook up you know there's one night stands I don't know the nature of their relationship at all so it's hard to say like were they exclusive and then he was seeing all these other women behind her back and now she's just finding out and maybe now she's I don't know But as of the statement, I heard that they were still together. Now, he was in, I think, L.A., and he flew home for like less than 24 hours. And in that period, I did have someone write in. And see, for some reason, all the people that live in New York City know where all the cast live, which I find interesting because, I don't know, I lived in New York City for like 30 years and I never knew where like the reality stars lived. But somebody was walking past his apartment and saw her heading inside. I think they live close together. I don't know, Adam, you could probably, you probably know where they live. Do they live close? yeah uh so yes you don't say the street no no no i won't say the street but based on paper i heard but then i heard that he wasn't living there for a second but based on uh yes they do live close right so somebody saw her in that 12-hour period that he came home from new york he came home from la to new york somebody saw her at at uh go into his building i don't have a picture i don't know if that's true the next day he headed out to arizona now he's like out on you know um kind of on the west coast he was in indianapolis last night for work so he they haven't been together is my point so he went from phoenix to indianapolis yes so they haven't physically been together unless my sighting in that 12-hour period of him coming back to new york is accurate and has he been discussed how is he doing though is yeah i was gonna say is he talking to people? Is he being open? Is he hiding? No, no, he's not hiding. He was like hanging out. And some people argue like, well, what do you want him to do? I don't know. Like this huge scandal just broke. Maybe just chill out in your room for the weekend. But he was by the pool on Saturday talking to people about this situation. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Yes. If you want it to go away and you don't want the press you hide away i don't feel like he wants to hide away right now i think this is he's getting tons of followers he's getting a lot of attention like this point he lean into it i don't know i i think this is honestly great for the show i think oh yeah i think you it's great you you end up getting another season off of this people are interested this is this is great well just like scandoval was amazing for vanderpump this is great for summer house yeah but didn't the whole cast like wind up getting recast on vanderpump after scandoval that was a dumb move on bravo's part well i mean now they have in the city i mean we're plugging all their shows why why not uh the in the city's coming out so um with lindsey amanda kyle i'm not sure if ciara's in that but so i'm sure people are going to watch that because that's going to come out before the next season of summer house airs i want to know you got you got the photo of Ciara crying in the meatpacking district right after. No, that was in your post. I think the post. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was Dumont. No, no, no. Did you get it? Yes. I could be wrong. We both got it at the same time. And I received it from literally, I'm not even kidding you guys, 50 different people. That photo circulated as fast, if not faster, than the Tom Brady, Alex Earl canoodling in St. Bart's video, which I also got from 50 people all claiming that they own the rights and tried to sell it. Now, do you feel like it was authentic? Like in regards to- Oh, her sitting on the ground being upset. Her sitting on the curb in a very public area crying right in the moment of this news breaking. I heard that she was very, very, very upset. Yes. Interesting. Okay. You brought up Alex Earle. That photo of Alex Earle in St. Barts with Tom Brady. and then we see the same exact photo pretty much at the Super Bowl in San Francisco. It's their back, their hand, to them. Do you think there was some sort of strategic way of one side, either side, trying to get that photo out and push that narrative? I mean – Or someone on their camp. You know it's not Tom Brady's side. So what side would you refer to, Adam? I was just going to say that. It definitely wasn't Tom Brady's side. In fact, I heard that like he tried to avoid her at the zero bond, zero bond party in Las Vegas. However, there was someone who saw them walking together. Again, there was no picture, so I can't confirm that was true. But I heard from inside the party that he was like not seen. Yeah, they were on opposite sides. He was with another girl most of the night or, you know, multiple girls. They were like an opposite size of the room. I don't know if that was from cameras. I think some people, from what I heard, were trying to. More on his side were trying to keep them separate based on the trust issues of all that. So, yeah, there was – I don't want to say strategy, but people on his side were trying to protect him in a way of not getting involved in that and making – throwing gas on this fire. And maybe even put out the narrative that, hey, he was with this other woman, Scooter Braun's ex. But I also heard he was with another woman more that night just to kind of get away from that Alex Earl. he's just living his life alex or all i feel like gets pushed on us a lot like they her team wants her to be the most famous person on the planet what who do you think either is going to be the next big star or someone that continuously gets pushed on you to on your radar yeah who yeah like who keeps getting pushed on you as like you need to cover this person you should cover this person you're like oh they're not that big of a deal but it feels like the world is trying to make them famous? Well, nobody tells me who to cover. I cover who I like and or who the audience is asking to see. Those are the two criteria. It's either people that I find interesting or, you know, celebrities that are involved in projects that I personally like or, you know, 80 percent is who the audience wants to see. So I I don't know. I would say the next big star. No one's asking me to push this person. I personally like them, Brooke Snader. Really? So why do you like Brooke Snader out of curiosity? I think that she – I know people would argue this because of the way she looks, but as a person, she's real. Like she's a real like down bitch, and I like that. Is it real? I mean me and Dax – so me and Dax have the Hollywood Raw Dog Awards. She won Thursday's Celebrity two years in a row. You know, she's very good at work in the room. She knows what she's doing. She's fucking smart. I don't disagree with you, by the way. I applaud that. I get it. Same thing. Like, I get it. This is a business. This is show business. Yeah. Once we see the photo of her making out with a dude backstage at Dancing with the Stars, somehow someone caught that photo. You know, all of a sudden we find period blood on her dress, and then she has some sort of maxi pad deal or tampon deal, whatever it was. I mean – She's smart. Listen, it is smart. I'm not mad at it. I get it. And there's nothing wrong with being thirsty. But it's – and listen, she's in the new Baywatch show. Obviously, it has worked. She's on our radars. And I think a lot of those sports, social, swimsuit models, they don't know how to transition their career. They don't know how to kind of keep it going because it's – those issues come out every year. They're on to the next girl. So you're trying to fight to stay in the issue. So I don't disagree with it. But it's interesting to hear you think that you think it's a star. Adam, you and I have both said that we do think that she is very smart with the way that she keeps herself interesting. She keeps herself in the media. So as much as we joke about her being thirsty, we also joke like we commend her for being able to stay relevant in this industry, which is not easy. And turning it into a money-making machine by, like you said, doing whatever it was, maxi-pad commercials or whatever, she makes smart moves. She makes smart moves and she gives good paparazzi pictures. A lot of the times the pictures that I choose to post are because I think that they're interesting from a visual perspective. And she gives good paparazzi pictures. So she yeah, she doesn't hide. She gives the paps what they want. I know a while back the paps were getting a little frustrated with it because their phone was blowing up from her. Just like it was like an overload of the photos. But listen, I can't be mad at her. She's just trying to work. And these guys are like, guys, I got to move on. I got to get other photos. I got to sell photos. So I mean, listen, listen, listen, do a good photo. You show your nipples. Yeah, that's fine. But like there's also there's also celebrities that the paps get photos of every single day. I don't know if the celebrities are calling them that never see the light of day. Sure. And hers do. So and that's the same for you. You shouldn't be so mad about it. You have access to the photos that are shot by the paparazzis every day. You know, most of these photos don't go anywhere, but you have access to seeing who's going to be shot. And Dax, you had that as well. So you see all the photos. We only see maybe 2% of the photos that are shot that day. You see all of them. Yeah. And I talk about this a lot to my audience because I think it's interesting that how a lot of them don't really see the light of day. So to your point saying that like Brooks is in so many paparazzi pictures, there's also other celebrities that are are in in the database every single fucking day. Just nobody publishes those pictures. No one cares. It's so true. And I could name one right now. Lucy Hale. Every fucking day they get Lucy Hale. I don't know why. I would say her and Shane Mitchell, too. Both of them. Shane Mitchell, a little less. Shane Mitchell, I think, is less. Lucy Hale, it was like to the point every single day. And it's like, what? Dakota Johnson, another one also every single day. Because I know I know the answer to this. But who cares about Dakota Johnson? Like literally, who cares? Well, people care now because she's dating role model. Are you kidding me? People care now because of role model. It's crazy how people love role model. Is role model someone who's like, they're selling on you a little bit? They're pushing him on you? No, that's someone that I picked up on because I spend a lot of time on TikTok. So I know the kids on TikTok really like him. So that's just someone that I'm like, okay, this is something people care about. You have to know what you're doing. You know what I mean? I'm on social media a lot. I'm on social media all day. So I know what people are responding to and who people aren't responding to. Are people still responding or caring as much as they did about the gay hockey players? No, you don't. Oh, I thought you were going to say that. I thought you were going to say the Kardashians. No. Well, actually, it's funny. I do want to get into Kim because I – we'll get into Kim. But the gay hockey players, the Hudson – I mean, those guys were so big for – during the height of that show. Has that star power dropped a little bit or where are they at as far as in your – I would say like in my opinion – I would say in my opinion that some people are sick of seeing – were sick of seeing them so much. I think it's like it's slowed down a little, but people were sick of seeing them. I saw those comments a lot, but they have a very loud fan base on X. Yeah. And those people migrate over to Instagram every time there's like a paparazzi or something posted about them. 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Sorry, I literally don't know who the gay hockey players are. You don't know? You didn't watch Heated Rivalry? I have no idea who that is. That's okay. Dax is not the fan base. Dax is not the fan base for Heated Rivalry. No, but that just goes to show you, but that also just goes to show you that it's just like social media is not necessarily real life. They were huge on social media at every event, but Dax is in the business and he doesn't even know who the fuck they are. I literally have. But that happens every once in a while. Something is so popular for one group and then I'm like, no clue. I want to do. You are in the know with basically everything. what tips are you getting on Taylor Swift wedding I know you got to be getting flooded There people out there that know what happening when it happening There got to be a caterer or someone talking What tips are you getting I'm not going to talk about the most valuable tips I'm getting because... She doesn't want to piss off that audience. I get it. No, it's nothing even to do with the audience. I don't want to be responsible for the safety of her wedding. Well, you don't have to tell me the day, but like, are you getting anything? I have a date. I don't know if it's accurate, and I'm trying to figure that out. I have a date. I have a location. It's not Yellowstone, even though I was saying in the beginning that Yellowstone, Yellowstone, Yellowstone. I'm kind of thinking it's not going to be there, but there's a lot I'm uncertain about. So I don't want to speak about something I'm uncertain about because, you know, then everyone's like, you don't know what you're talking about. You make up lies, whatever. So what about what tips are coming in that you don't know if they're true or not? How about that? The date. OK, the date and the location's very hazy. I don't know about a location. And I also heard that, like, guests knew the date, but they didn't really as of a couple of weeks ago, didn't have much information about the location. I would not be surprised, honestly, 100%. I would not be surprised if she sends out invites and says, mark this day. We will let you know 24 hours before time. Or meet us at Burbank Airport. You'll get on my plane, and you will be taken to the wedding. And that's it. And people don't know where they're going. They don't know anything other than that. That, to me, would make a lot of sense because how else do you keep something like this quiet? But I don't know how you keep all your vendors silent. I know you can write all these NDAs and non-disclosures. They're too scared. They don't want to be the ones to leak. That's not where I'm getting information from. It's not vendors. It's not vendors. I mean, because people are telling me where they're – I know where I'm getting the information from at this point because the people who are sharing it are saying – they're asking me not to share it publicly, which is also why I'm not really saying. Why would they reach out to you if they don't want you to share it publicly? People tell me everything. I don't know. I'm like a fucking celebrity therapist. I have no fucking idea. But they have told me, like, where they're getting the information from, and it's not vendors. But to your point, I do think that there needs to be accommodations booked for the guests. So I don't know if she could wait up to 24 hours because – She could rent a whole hotel and – I guess. I don't know if she's doing that, though. I don't I don't know if that if she's doing that, to be honest. My guess would be even like you rent out a bunch of houses and you Airbnb a ton of houses and put everyone up. When you have that kind of money, you can do a lot of crazy shit with it. I mean, I think I think that at first I heard the guest list was going to be tight. And now I'm hearing the guests. It's going to be more people than I had originally heard. so I don't I do think that accommodations need to be booked that is what I heard so I don't know if if she's going the route of like renting houses and also like what do you do you put people that don't know each other together you're also having like other huge celebrities attend your wedding like people want to stay in their own you know I think it was Tiger Woods that rented out like an entire like hotel on the beach when him and like I think Ealing got married way back in the day but like does does Blake Lively get an invite to Taylor's wedding that's a great question so people are pointing out how in Blake Lively's latest statement so she made a statement I don't know if you guys saw after last week's ruling um because I think that she felt that the headlines weren't really reflecting what happened during that ruling. Do you guys know about this? The ruling, the sexual harassment one? Yeah, how, like, the judge threw out 10 of the 13 charges. Yep. So those were the headlines. I mean, that was my headline because that's the information I was getting from, like, press. I mean, I'm not in court, and I'm not a lawyer. But after I posted this, a lawyer reached out to me, not involved in the case, but just someone trying to help me understand the ruling. And it's not as black and white as him just throwing out 13, 10 of the 13 charges. So she wrote a whole letter. And at the end of the letter, there was a dragon emoji. And some people think that this is like an Easter egg to the fact, you know, the whole dragon thing with Taylor Swift. Yep. I also heard that, you know, because Taylor is so close to her kids, she is their godmother, that there's a strong chance that she she'll be invited like with the kids. I mean, I think that like, listen, you can publicly not want to necessarily be seen with that person. But I got to imagine they're still friends behind the scenes. Right. Like they were super close. so how could you have a wedding and not have one of your closest friends there even if it doesn't make you look great publicly i got to imagine she still gets the invite i think i think more so is the kids factor to be honest with you i think that that's more of a driving force of her getting an engagement i mean taylor was pissed as far as i heard i mean she was really pissed she's embarrassed she's embarrassed because it hurts her reputation right i don't think they were talking I really don't for a while. I don't know now, but I don't think they were talking. I mean, to have her private text messages leaked like that, I mean, I would be devastated and be like someone like Taylor Swift. So I think there's a chance she'll be invited to answer your question. Let's get back to Kim Kardashian because you guys brought her up earlier. do you we don't i don't feel like she gets as much coverage as she once did are you are you not caring as much are people not caring as much why are we not being inundated with the kardashians as much as we used to be i i care i like i like her i'm i'm a fan of her i've always have been i've always been very vocal about that um but sometimes her posts don't really perform so i mean they do if it has it over saturation no i think people i think some i think people just lost interest to be honest they've always done a really good job of keeping interest so it's kind of surprising to hear that there might not be that interest we are also massive fans of kim and the family i i think that they've always done a really good job of being those interesting people for so many years um but that i maybe there's just new celebs coming up that people are finding more interesting yes i think that that that that has happened i think it depends like i think if she wears something provocative that people you know want to shit on or if she's like in a picture with lewis then it does really well but just like her like like regular paparazzi pictures of her um by herself not so much whereas like if Dua Lipa like Dua Lipa always performs really well um you know so I don't know so I think it's just like interest you know I mean I have to look at like what posts perform and what what don't and that's like how I gauge uh the things that I'm going to post on social media well when it comes to posting you know I get tips you know But you get thousands of tips. It's overload of tips and information. And I was just curious how you kind of go through if this person is a legitimate source. Do they actually know what they're talking about, this person being actually crazy? Well, there's a lot of factors that go into figuring that out. A lot of the times I have the same people, same horses. Same, yeah. A lot of the times people will be very forthcoming with how they know information. And I obviously won't disclose that because they know everything that is posted is posted anonymously. So a lot of the times, and I say this, I say this all the time. It's anonymous to you guys. It is certainly not anonymous to me where this information is coming from. And, you know, there's certain things like at this point I won't touch. Like don't, you know, be messaging me information from a burner account or an account, you know, with like your dog's picture and like saying these crazy things and expect me to believe them because I'm not. It's probably a celebrity themself. Yeah. I mean it could be. Yeah. You know, I had someone on my podcast a while ago, and they work for one of the big networks we were talking about, one of the big celebrity, you know, TV shows. And they said to me, I send you information from my burner account all the time. And you, like, you know, you don't really react because it's like I can't, like, you know. how am i supposed to know if it's you if it's a burner yeah exactly i'm gonna think then i'm gonna think it's somebody crazy but there are some times where people will message me from a burner and i'm like is this the fucking celebrity like they just know too much information yeah it's too specific or you know it's just like so i i you know i don't know you know what i've learned celebs like gossiping too and i think in this industry people assume that celebs want nothing to do with it. They don't want to be on TMZ and Dumois and all of these things. That's not the case. A lot of celebs love to gossip just as much as the rest of the world. It's kind of crazy that a lot of tips and information will come from celebs because they like spilling the information. It's still high school at the end of the day where everyone is kind of sharing information. At least that's what I've seen. Do you see the same thing? you, I agree with you 150%. And that's why, like, even sometimes if I post a paparazzi picture and the comments are like, these, this is so invasive, or this is so, you know, whatever, it's like, they want to be seen. It keeps them relevant. Being relevant equals dollar signs. It equals parts in movies. It equals endorsement deals. It equals their livelihood. You know, they don't, If you're not at the point where you're super mega A-list that you don't need to be seen or you don't need to be in paparazzi pictures to get work, that's great. But I don't think that's a majority of Hollywood. You could tell me if I'm wrong. I think it's a handful of really huge A-listers that don't need publicity. But most people, I think, do. People need it. Just ask Lucy Hale. Oh, I didn't mean to. Listen, I love Lucy Hale. I love Lucy. Wait, I just want to go on record. I love Lucy Hale. I love her. Very pretty girl. I don't understand why there's so many paparazzi pictures of her. There's no way she's calling paparazzi. Oh, come on. Come on. No, I would say not all the time. You know how it works. Not all the time. Adam, tell us. But, like, for what? A lot of it's her working out, like, coming home from a workout or walking her dog. Yeah, it's an easy shot. You're in the area. You go to the same coffee. You know she's going to walk by. It's like when we see Hugh Jackman all the time. Dax, how many times did you see Hugh Jackman? Was Hugh Jackman calling the Paps? No, he wasn't. But you knew his schedule. He would drop his kids off at school every day, so you'd know exactly his schedule. But he was also – And her schedule was there. Hugh Jackman is an A-list star, so there is something a little different to that. But again, I don't fault anyone for calling the paparazzi because it is a game and this is a business. And when you stay relevant, like you said, it equals dollar sign. I fault nobody for tipping off the paparazzi to remain in the public view. No, I agree with you. But the thing that pisses me off is when fans don't understand the difference between like a Lucy Hale calling a paparazzi and a Harry Styles calling a paparazzi. They think that now I'm assuming that, you know, from this conversation, they're going to it's just going to fuel the fire that everyone calls the paparazzi. Harry Styles does not call fucking paparazzi. No. He doesn't. But the girls he dates sometimes call the paparazzi. Well, I don't think Zoe Kravitz is calling the paparazzi either. But you know what's so funny? And now it's become the new thing where – and I'm sure you get this, but more me, that anytime I get a celebrity like, oh, they called you. They called you. I'm like – Yeah. Oh, man. That's what I'm talking about. And I have no problem with that. Listen, I wish they called me more. It doesn't happen. Well, can you say that louder that your job is hard, that you're not just sitting there getting calls and then going to get the picture. Yeah, I'm not a hotline. There's – it does happen, and when it does happen, I'm not trying to out the people. I don't – yeah, it doesn't happen enough. Trust me. I wish it did because it would make my day, my life so much easier. I just got Kyle Cook, and people are like, oh, he called. I'm like, I promise you, that was not set up. I mean I know Kyle because they're like, oh, he – I know him. We're friendly. We're like sort of like you and Lindsey. it's like we're friendly we're you know like i've never hung out i don't think i really he respects what you do is he knows what i do so he's nice to me i'm cool to him back so he gave me his time but they're not i wish it was set up trust me it would make my life but that's a new thing anytime you get a celebrity now oh that was set up they called you they called that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying like this conversation is going to get spun into like well you know the paparazzi or you You guys are – you two are saying that everyone calls the paparazzi. But I think if not – I think that like – like do you think Joe Jonas calls the paparazzi? No. No. Not all – I think his team has leaked some stuff. Like when there's something around an announcement or some sort of marketing scheme, let's say if he's handing out roses in Washington Square Park, yeah, they might call Paps for that to kind of make it like a more spin media thing, blast. But other than that, no, I don't think he calls them. Okay. But I would say this, and he will not like to hear this. He dates a lot of women. Some of those women might call and want that attention. I know a celebrity now who was dating a girl, and he was, like, afraid to date her. He was like, dude, I'm not going to – I don't – for some reason, I don't trust this girl. I'm not going to walk out of the restaurant with her. He was like – he saw a video of her recently, and he was like, yeah, it's just a weird thing, a weird sign. He wanted to make sure, like, hey, I'll get dinner with you. I'll get lunch with you, but I'm not going to walk out with you because – Wait, give us a clue. An actor? Yes. Is it a B list or lower? Yeah, I'd say B. Okay. Wait, let me ask you another one since we're on this topic. Sure. What about this? I'm trying to debunk now all the comments I get. Okay, this one I already know the answer, but I want to hear you guys say it. What about Sebastian Stan? Is he calling? I don't feel like I see enough content of him. In New York City, no. I will say this. From what I know of Sebastian Stan he was always around the Bowery and this is actually crazy This is interesting I don know if this is too in depth or too in detail He hangs out around the Bowery a lot There is a crew of photographers called the Bowery Boys And some photographers work the West Village. These guys are purely East Village guys. They hang out on Bowery. They hang out near the Bowery at all times. And that's what they do. And they would see him often. So I would say. I mean, Adam and I drove by there two weeks ago, and the amount of paps that are just sitting outside the Bowery at any time. If you're a celeb and you come walking out of there, you're going to get your photo taken. Why do you think this – I've stayed at the Bowery a ton of times. Why do you think celebrities like that hotel so much? So it's funny. It depends on the celebrity. Now, if you're a cool kind of dark rock star-ish Jason Momoa, sort of like a little punk-ish, you got to stay at the Bowery. It's cool. You know, it's to me and to you and Dax, you know, the Bowery is like the East Coast, the New York Chateau Marmont. You know, we go to the bar. It's dark. It's kind of spooky. You know, when you look for people, there's a sexy vibe. I don't think it's like I don't think it's a warm place. I think it's like a cool winter bar. But, you know, it kind of gives that mystique what's going on. But then you have the bigger celebrities, the A-listers that stay at the Greenwich. And then it's funny. Lately, you've seen like newer celebrities stay at the Greenwich and they'll pay a little bit extra to stay at the Greenwich to be seen there, to seem like probably like their career is even better than you think. There was a there was a social media star. There was a social media star. That was recently stayed at the Greenwich. And now I'm not trying to knock it, but I think they were staying there because to stay there is like a status thing. You know, you're staying at the same hotel that, you know, Matthew McConaughey, Harrison Ford, like, you know, at that level. Does that make sense? No, I've stayed at all these hotels. Yeah, yeah, I like when you did that. That was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've stayed at them all. So the Greenwich Hotel, you can't go into the bar or restaurant unless you're a guest at the hotel. So that's also a reason. And also the Bowery, too. I think it's hard to get a seat at the bar unless you stay there. Like they asked me my room number to even get a seat in that lounge area. They're like, what's your room number? Yeah, once you get to a certain time at night, you have to be – unless you're, I guess, maybe someone, you have to have – like you should be staying there. Once it gets later and starts to get more full, then you have to be a guest. Right. So that's why I think they like it also is because of that aspect of privacy. I think they like it because there's also photographers outside. I guess you're right. I never thought about that. Let's not like put that – people go to Craig's to eat dinner because Craig's is good. but there's an aspect of free publicity when you walk outside. I think it's the same thing at the Bowery. You know you're going to show up, you're going to get a stay, but you also get a free paparazzi walk. So I think that you have to factor all this in because you could stay at a thousand other hotels in New York, but no one would know that you're in New York. That one, people will get your photo. So I think you have to factor all that in. Well, can I say that I think that Phuket's is the new Greenwich? I could say that. It's not a good place to sit because you don't get traffic there as far as for someone like me. Yeah, I would say that there is a very sexier name, sexier vibe, less rooms. But there's also – listen, if you don't want to be seen in New York City, there's plenty of other hotels to stay at. You can stay at the Lowell, which is like a spot that gets a lot of old musicians from like the Paul McCartney sometimes. Wait, which hotel did you say? The Lowell. Spell that. L-O-W-E-L-L. I've seen Oprah there. I've seen Samuel L. Jackson there. I've seen Bruce Springsteen. there i think obama's been there oh are you saying the lull hotel yeah okay i could be spelling it wrong okay yeah yeah yeah yeah again i've been there before never stayed in a room but i've been at the bar you know there's not a lot of rooms there so it's kind of like a very uh you know i can't imagine the rooms they're having a great view i know a lot of celebrities get pissed off they have to sit the whippy now but the whippy guess what the whippy there's no garage and you You know, the whippy is they get a production deal, but there's no garage. You have to walk in. You have to be seen. And somebody's like, I don't want to do that. Yesterday, there was the cast of the Jonah Hill film. They were doing some they were doing some stuff there. I don't know if they're all state now. They weren't all staying there, but they were all there. And like they're like really at the lull because there's no way of dealing with, you know, it's not really the paparazzi as much because they're really not. They're not a problem as much as it once was. It's more of the fans, the autographers, the professional autographers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The uncomfortableness, the dirtiness of it because, you know, not only these people like asking for autographs. If you don't sign, they film it. They say you're a jerk. Yeah, yeah. And then they get to control the narrative. So it's like, dude, I'm not a jerk because I'm not signing for you that you're going to sell. You're not a real fan. So it becomes very sort of weird. Um, my question for you is, uh, do, how are PR companies responding to you? Are publicists being nice to you now? Um, I had a publicist very recently be very kind of rude and aggressive in an email. And I responded to them and said, uh, you want me to do something for you right now? Like remove or like, you know, uh, clarify something. And this is how you're talking. Like that's not really like the way to get what you want. But that was really, for the most part, like they're nice. I don't talk to, I don't talk to publicists on a weekly basis or even sometimes monthly basis. It depends. It really just depends like on who I'm posting about and who I need to, who I need to reach out to. They don't, they rarely reach out to me. Rarely. Yeah. Do you get nervous of like the legal coming after you? Because again, you're dealing with people that have so much money and they can just do whatever they want. No, because I'm not really saying anything that's defamatory. I'm talking about like places they've been and people they're dating or – I'm not really – I don't talk about like drug use or them like freaking out on set and like – I don't talk about like domestic violence or abuse or anything that would be considered defamatory. I mean, like, I'm literally talking about, like, so-and-so scene at this restaurant, maybe on a date with so-and-so. Like, you know, that's not really. Don't tell me the celebrity. What's the craziest photo or video that you've got in your inbox? Oh, that I've gotten in my inbox. That's such a good question. I mean, I post so many of everything I get. I can't imagine anything. anything. The dad just saw videos that would never come to like, he's seen sex tapes that would never come. I mean, I've seen, I've seen that stuff. I've seen that stuff, but I don't, I'm trying to think, I don't know. Like a lot of people were sending me a night. I really don't like this person, but Dave Portnoy is sex tape. But that's as far as like sex. I've never seen like people do drugs on video. I've seen a video. I've seen, people in Mexico having sex in their like hot tub on like you know how like in Mexico you have like a pool and a hot tub out of your hotel room yeah was this is this Timothee Chalamet no no no no and they were just having sex in the hot tub on the cliff of their Mexican hotel and I was like oh my god you guys what are you doing you know paparazzi are out in the water on their boats taking photos of people on their vacation. What are you doing right now? Maybe they didn't care. Maybe they want it. You know, like people are freaky. Getting back to what was the Timothy Chalamet? There's video of him having sex. What? Oh, no, no. Hooking up with Isaac Gonzalez and, you know, those pictures. Gotcha. Sorry. I was like, I thought this was like a Kylie Jenner thing. No, no, no. I don't think I have gotten really honestly in my inbox. I don't think I've received anything like super scandalous because a lot of the pictures like people are taking are in public places. I don't really get like pictures inside of like parties and stuff like that that would, you know. One time somebody did send me an audio of an actor in a hotel room meeting somebody he met on a dating app, a married actor. Oh, geez. of somebody in a hotel room that he met on a dating app. That was kind of crazy. If I said the name, you might not know off the top of your head, but you'd know the show he was on. He was a TV actor. That was kind of crazy, I guess. I'm trying to think if I've gotten any naked pictures. I'm surprised that you haven't got a lot of naked pictures. I feel like those were flooding in all the time. Dax could send you a few of his. I got two last questions for you, okay? One, do you think there's any fake relationships in Hollywood right now currently? Like they're not real. It's for the business. It's to make their careers bigger than it is or just put them on the map. I mean I did really question Kim Kardashian and Louis Hamilton getting together, but they seem like they're the real deal. Yeah, I think so. I think they're the real deal, and I think it's a good fit too. Both successful, both have money. Yes. I guess I just thought – They both work hard. No, yes. On paper, yes. But I guess I think that visually I'm not used to seeing her. Like she usually likes – I don't know. To me, in my head, I think she likes – is he short? Like I feel like she likes taller. She's short too. No, I know. I don't think – Yeah. No, I know she's short, but I think visually them together is what surprised me. Not that he's not good looking, just not someone I would picture being her type. So that's what threw me off in the beginning. But now I'm thinking that they're definitely the real deal. So I would say them. I can't think of like any, I don't know. There's so many engaged couples right now that, I mean, who would even be dating that would be for publicity? I mean, I want to date someone for publicity. someone put me in a fake relationship with a celebrity alright well my last question for you goes back to the photos and videos where is the weirdest place you've ever had a spotting of a celebrity the weirdest place I've ever had a spotting of a celebrity probably like a sex club no no sex I mean I get I've gotten like people write in about sex club stuff Yeah, I have. I mean, you know, the whole, the whole, I mean, this, this is like, I feel like I could talk about this now, but when Armie Hammer was like blabbing to anyone on the internet, you know, like when he was like really deep in his social media era, like talking to all these women, he had told someone that he saw a very like, I don't know how to describe her. I guess like wholesome, a very wholesome A-list news anchor at a sex club getting double teamed with her husband. I don't know if that's true. There can't be that many A-list news anchors. I'm very curious right now. I've told this in a blind item. I've told this in a blind item. but I haven't ever revealed who, but it spread around. And I don't know if he ever said he was just making it up. Oh no, I know what happened. Somebody came to me and they said, I'm the one who told Armie Hammer this story. And he was telling it like he had witnessed it himself, but it was really somebody else who worked at this sex club. So yeah, a list, a list news anchor. um, in like a fisticuffs, I don't know what you call it. Uh, uh, Eiffel tower. I don't know. Something like with her husband and someone else. Oh man. That was like, that was crazy. Um, that, that was probably the craziest, I guess. Now that you say sex club. Yeah. All right. Wow. Okay. I don't even know how to follow that. We're going to end on that because, You know, I have to leave that one to everyone's imagination on who the hell is out there doing some wobbly H's in the sex clubs. Yeah. No pictures. There's no pictures, I want to say. There's no picture evidence of this. This is just something that was going around. Dude, thank you for coming on. I want to be gradually on the newsletter, which I think is so smart. Oh, my God. Do you get the newsletter out of it? The newsletter is a gem, and I think people don't – newsletters are becoming more and more popular. You see a lot of writers doing it, but the newsletter is fantastic. Obviously, the podcast is great. Everything you're doing is great. I'm happy for you. I'm proud of you. I think it's exciting. I think it's cool, especially in today's day and age where we were talking before we started recording with all what's going on with the entertainment news shows. You are doing a fantastic job. Everyone is hurting. Yours is growing. So congrats. 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