Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

Then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people grew me with Titty Kaka or an eerie. It's also a little bit what it was like to work with Anna Carvey. You know, you're being f***ed by a thorn. You know, and you're like, okay, you know, and you're just like, what? Okay, I'll add some spice to that. Give us a couple of different versions of that. So Lake Bell, the lovely and talented Lake Bell, who started right now on the Cher Company with Tim Robinson, which is just an absurd, funny, crazy, off-kilter abstract. Right on my alley, right on my alley. Yeah, and yeah, we talk about her name. I mean, it is her name. It is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business when it's not made up, Lake Bell. You definitely need a hooky name. That is a great short four letters, four letters. There's just something, it's like a movie, jury duty, you know, just get like boom, boom, and it helps. She's also been in it's complicated. She's in so many movies. She's sort of woven in where you just go, oh right, she was in that one. She was no strings attached. There's old movies, new movies, TV shows, and the director. Oh, she was in Secret Life with Pets with Mois. And we talk all about that. And what's interesting about her, I think, is she's got a whole lane of getting hired to do things, and then she's just producing and or directing things constantly, and that's by design and very smart. Then you can kind of, show business is less emotionally violent when you just like doing your own work at the same time. Yeah, anytime it's just waiting for the phone to ring is tough, that's the hardest part about show business. Anyway, here she is, lovely person, Lake Bell. Bell rang soon. Is that her? Yeah, it's her. I don't have any idea what she looks like, is that her? Oh my God, no one. She looks like, well, it looks almost. Gorgeous. And AI almost. And I do what I can, I can't believe this. I'm just so glad that this is working. I am too, it's amazing. Wait, as soon as I heard, here, let me put this here. I feel like there might be a compliment coming, so keep going. Wait, is this, do I have to tap these on? Yes, engineer. Because they're done. I think so, I know that you hate it, everyone hates it, but I think it helps. Doesn't look cute. We had this hockey player on and he didn't have them, and we couldn't talk over them because everything stopped. We have to wait for someone to talk, which is what you should do. The hockey player's name was Wayne Gretzky. Oh, right. I didn't even say that. I'm not trying to flex. I don't want to get. I don't want to get handsy. I don't want to have these phrases exist. The latest one is Slop, I hear it a lot. And it's Slop. Slop means just massive content that is just Slop. It's just people love to watch Slop. Seven is done. Did you hear about that? Who's done? What is six, seven? No, no, you know it's done. Oh, you didn't even, were you not aware of six, seven? I was, but I'm glad it's over. I heard the two numbers, but what was it about again? I think it's heard of the two numbers. I heard the two. He's heard of six. I had it when I was, no, I remember something like six, seven was a code or something. What was it? I mean, I don't keep track. It was like a meme or something, and then somebody added at a kind of sporting event of some sort, because I also asked questions to my children and I have teeny tiny children that are right in the six, seven. Do they know about it? They, I hear about it all the damn time. It was a hot Christmas gift. Was it T-shirt that said six, seven? Oh, no, no, no. But apparently the adult. Thank God it's over. It's over, right? It's over. Okay. I have, oh, I was gonna say, cause you're also a director. Do you feel like- Wait a minute, she's an author, people who don't know Lake Bell, cause I did kind of look you up a little bit, you know, preparation author, writer, director, actor, and voice actor. Am I missing anything? I mean, I'm a mother, which is my- Oh, I'm most. I'm the most jobable. Well, like as a director, is this too wide on me? I feel like it's showing too much of my whole body. I do feel that we're getting a lot of the wires in the backdrop, you could punch in. I'd like to do on an eight, five. You mean over here? Yeah. I've never seen those in my life, and you saw them in one set. Let's come around, if we can, for a two shot, and then just pan and lake. Yeah, let's just cross cover. Can we cross cover? So what's your happiest place in your creative world? Is it when you're writing your book? Get a little start, I guess we're doing it. We're doing it. We'll start and not start. We don't really know what we're doing yet, but is that kitchen real, or is it like a backdrop? Is it cool? Yeah. I'm in my office and it has a kitchenette. So there's a- Oh, somebody invested well. Got to get richer. Whoops. Can I have a kitchenette? Have you ever seen anything like this? Who lives there? Bezos? Okay, well, listen. His muscles live in the other room, and he lives in that. Guys, come on now. The kitchenette is great for making- If it has ETT on the end, that means it's not super easy. Kitchenette makes me happy. The word makes me happy. If you're checking in at kind of a B level motel and there's that kitchenette, it just seems relaxing. I feel very relaxed and welcome if there's a kitchenette. If you're in the bathroom, there's got a kitchenette, you're like, I've made it. Because it really gives you that access point to, the world is your oyster. You could make a tea, you could microwave a piece of toast. Yes, if I'm on the road, I go for residence in kitchenette, and then you don't really leave as much because you go, I can kind of handle shit right here. And you don't add even- Have you ever made an omelet in the kitchenette and just thought to yourself about the main kitchen? These are fewer questions. About the main kitchen as you're flipping the omelet. You know what? Fuck the main kitchen. You know what's fun about that is that's where all the funky mugs go. So I've got a very, I love mug, and I like a funky mug. Like, don't mess with Texas or like, you go to, like I have a mug, a dentist gave me a mug once with a big smile with braces on it. Like, what a mug. You know? And it's like, I like a good, like, you know, it's like you travel somewhere and you get a mug. And I, all of the good funky mugs live in the kitchenette. The main kitchen, she's curated, she's got a real point of view. There's a visual. Right. And that is where the funk. And you also don't want to mess up the main kitchen. So it's good to come do some dirty work in here. Hop, sorry, I just want to make a quick note. Right. Rap song called Funky Mug. Okay. Yeah. Okay, go. Well, mugs, I have a great old, you know, my best mug is of all my goofy ones, Larry Sanders. It's all faded. And why we got that must have been like a gift. Yeah. I don't know. I love it. Well, because Mark Marin, he gives a mug. I'm just saying you guys. Oh smart. We want the objection. I was on his show. I don't remember getting a mug. Oh, they just have special people. Definitely got a mug. No, no, no, that's not a mug. You have to, you have to, you have a bone to pick then because those mugs are excellent. And I do ceramics. So like I've got mugs. I've got mugs. You do ceramics on top of the mug. You do ceramics too and you write a lot of motives thing. I can't, your resume made me tired. What are you doing? What, do you take a nap every day? I mean, look at you. I do like to nap. Oh, listen to this like, Bill. That's interesting. When I was going through your extenuous resume, is that a word? And... It is now. Golden arm. And guess who, well, we don't name drop on the show. John Hamm hit me out of the blue and I go, John, I'm looking at your goddamn name on this stupid IMDB and he was so effusively positive about you. Hi, John Hamm. John Hamm, yeah, he's great. I think that is nice. That makes me feel good. I do think I'm generally like nice. Yeah. As a person, I mean, would you... I've seen you out and about and you're always very friendly and very light. And I think I like the word agreeable. How is this person? They're agreeable. You know, they're easy. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that. I would say that. And she's a laffer, I think, if I remember. You like her? Yeah, I will give a good laugh. Like, I feel like that is a quality that especially within comedy, it's nice to have people around who also will give it, give a laugh, right? Yes, yeah, because if you're stiff and sometimes you just want to be the funny one, it's always nice when other funny people laugh. Yeah, because you know, when you're standing in like a group of comedy people and everyone's each other and they're being really fun and they've got a little turned up side grin because they're thinking, I'm gonna say the next funny thing. Ooh, I'm gonna sharpen what I'm gonna sharpen in my head. Ooh, I'm listening to what he said. Okay, I'm gonna, and everyone's thinking what am I gonna say next? And it can be kind of like sweaty. I don't know. I don't like group shows. I do some dates with David. I don't like like... It's 19 comics in a green room. What could go wrong? It's like a comedy competition and I don't like it. The guy who, the man or woman on this podcast who laughed the hardest is kind of interesting. It was Larry David. I think I heard that episode. Yes, I was hearing that. He was a great laugher and I thought, I love Larry even more for that. I know. He's so brilliant. And then he's sort of like, he curled up a little ball and he was red faced and he fell out of his chair. It's very interesting. But our guest today is Lakebalk. Lakebalk. Has anyone ever met another Lake person first name? Yeah, so it's interesting because when I was growing up, it was so bizarre. I mean, people were, the amount... Can't get their head around it. They could not, they were like, this is not okay with me. Whoa. What? And I had a story I would tell people that my parents were hippies and I was gonna be on a lake and they thought, oh, let's do it. And that was not at all the truth. I'm from Manhattan. My dad's like a Jew who eat the belt of fish and my mom was like, kind of red worn piece while working at Sotheby's and was a model. Sotheby's. Yeah. Yeah. Lake is a cool one, but you have cool names for your kids. Well, it's like a movie star name. And, you know, I mean, it's very memorable. It's really tight and the big L and the big B, it just, it has a lot going on. Four letters, four letters. Yeah, four letters, four letters, two nouns. And then I think I saw it on a lot of like signage when I was a kid. I always wanted to be an actor, but I was like, oh, it's already up there. So fucking we're halfway there. It works, it works up there in the big time. Yeah. Lake Titicaca, Lake, you know, that was... Now we're talking. Lake Falls of Plenty, remember that one in Winnipeg? Oh God, really? Winnipeg. I just went off Titicaca, you're right. Yeah, yeah, I went to Titicaca and then there's Lake Superior. I always would retort with that when people threw me a Titicaca or an Erie. Yeah. The admin Fitzgerald took place on a lake, I think. Yeah, I mean, listen, lakes are of great import. They're much more robust than a pond. No one's name Puddle is there. And they're rare in the Western U.S. You were called Puddle? Yeah, my stepfather used to call me Puddle because he's like, one day maybe he'll grow into a lake. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, that's cute. 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I think people want to know that all the Minions are friends, and I think they want to know that all the people hang out because I did some, and we did them in different days, and I was like, oh no, I kind of wanted to be together. Yeah, there's no, it's a lonely job in a way, but then you get thrown together in promotion. So you're recording these huge, like either TV shows or movies where they're these animated, like larger than life characters, and oh my God, the rapport must have been terrific. I ask you on the junket, they say, was it so fun working together? Did you guys have a blast? The chemistry. That's a perfect junket voice, what you just did. It's a little bit what it was like to work with Dana Carvey. Dana must be nonstop laughing, like, well, his booth was two doors down in four months after. I don't know. I know one time on Hotel Transylvania, we did it. Oh, a couple of people remember, I heard some applause. Yeah. But we did it all in the same room. No, you didn't. They quickly found out it was a horrible idea. We were doing like scenes and we're all talking, it was Kevin, James, and Adam, we're like blah, blah, blah, and we're just going through scene after scene. And then we go, we'll do some pickups, and we did everything again by ourselves. Well, by the way, then it goes back to the green room, a bunch of comedians in a green room. You wouldn't want to record an animated scene that way, because everyone's saying they're going, hey, we're so funny. Did you understand, David, because when I was in the two, I wasn't quite sure what my character was doing. I didn't connect it to any, I didn't even understand. I just knew that was the line. And they directed me, but you get kind of lost. You just came out of a cave and you're all wet. Yeah. That's what it's like. And then when we did that one, Ember's new groove, it went three years, I did it. And so at the end, I'm like, I don't even know what's going on. They go, you can ad-lib, I go, I don't know what the scene is. I don't, you're like, you're falling down, yel-scrape. I like when they go, right before you leave, let's get some ooze and Oz. That's the best. Someone step on your tail. The industry term is, you're ready? You remember, they're like, let's get some efforts. Oh, yeah. Efforts when you're falling down a hole. Yeah. Yeah. This is just for people I've probably been spoken about before, but it's an interesting thing about doing voiceover work. You're behind a glass, you're in a booth. You're seeing like 10 people in front of you and they're straight faced and very serious. And you go all out with your take, and there's a delay. So you're still looking at an oil painting and then you see them like they're laughing. Surrealism from France. Just, you can't hear them. Like the violent laughing and thumbs up. And you like that one, they go, one more. Yeah, it's so awkward. I mean, I do poison Ivy on Harley Quinn for DC. It's like a, yeah. That is all kind of improvising. Oh, look at him, he read the resume. Oh, notes. Oh yeah, we got show. It's necessary. I didn't think we'd need them much with you and it's working out beautifully. So tell me about your that character on Harley Quinn. Well, I just was gonna say, in there they really like the improvisational vibe. Oh, okay. Yeah. And of course you're alone. So you're, sometimes I have the director read with me just so that I can, I don't know. It's like you don't know how to improvise with nothing even though I've gotten really good at it. Where you just are like, I don't know, can you give me an idea of where we are? And they're like, okay, so you're in Gotham. And it's kind of like, yeah. Is that sunny? Kind of like a brothel, but like they're all made of plants. And like you're being fucked by a thorn. And you're like, okay. And you're just like, what? Okay, I'll add some spice to that. Give us a couple of different versions of that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's great. Look at your sleeves though. What's going on? Yeah, so we've got a bit of a... Don't worry about it. It's like... Slammeth Rock, I mean, sort of a... It's called fashion and I'm not involved. It's kind of a pilgrim village that's trying to make friends with Native American look. Ooh. I don't know if it works. It's a mess. What color is it if you had to guess? What color? Yeah. Well, it's... I think it's dark green. It's actually dark... It's navy with black, which is my favorite combo. God, more proof I'm colorblind. Everyone says I'm colorblind. What, navy with black is your favorite color? Yeah, I love attention. Don't hate my jean jacket. I like what you got going on there. It's hard doing this, right? We're all looking at ourselves. We're looking at our guests. I know, I don't like it. I'm gonna just... How do I... Don't go off. It's possible not to... I think on Zoom, I know how to just go, and then I get rid of my face. And then the problem is, we're all actors, we're all looking at us. Like, what do I look at my face? I'm only looking at me the whole time. I know, I see you. I see you looking at you. I don't even know what's on them. Spade has never looked at me or you. I don't even know what Dana looks like in real life. He's not sure who our guest is today. He's not even his guest. Dude, you've got a hair light. You've got a backlight that's... Yes. This is a new thing, like, that you should incorporate into your movies, you direct, because this was a happy accident. I like it. It was a light behind me, because it was so black behind me. And then it kind of glows up the hair. So I said, hey, whoa. Yeah, they do that a lot with the ladies. They do? Yeah, hair light, they call it. But then you do that, so it's just like a little crest of, like... It's not bad. Yeah, it's pretty. It's quite elegant. Does mine pour down a little hard back there? But I don't know, maybe it could go down. It's a little celestial. It's a little angelic, but I like it. It feels like they could kind of fly away. I mean, there's a sense that... Like, yeah. Some of these... They're very French. I think it's very French. Right. It's a one-way street. Once they jump out, they're not coming back. Yeah, can you go... These heirs... Can you... I've got a bit of a mully going on. Do you, like, do you have a team if you go to an award show or something? Yeah. Do you have a team? Talk about it. Oh. Do you have a good team? Oh, honey, girls. Girls, I... Girlfriend. Oh, please. Girls, you have no idea what kind of team I have. One of the greatest teams. No, I do. That's good hair, though. You have to. I did my hair today. I'll be honest for you gentlemen. It's great. Thank you. But no, I do. I do a team, but I have to be honest with you. Going to... When someone goes, hey, do you... Like, Francis Golden Globes are coming out and... Oh, you know, you're going to go to the thing on Friday or whatever. And the amount of just pomp and circumstance that I need to go through just to get to the fricking party, I'm like, I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party because I have to be hair and makeup, styling, car. Because I can't just you gentlemen can throw on a queue. Sometimes you're like, who do I bring? Is it my cell? Yeah, I go alone. But I actually go alone. I kind of been enjoying rolling up because you run around so much. Usually just go to someone for base. You're like, both talking to people. You come back, say, hi, what's going on? And then you go. Oh, you have to go from here. Yeah. But if you don't, it feels weird sometimes to be constantly in motion. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, like, Bill, nice to see you. What's up? You have 10 seconds to make a connection. Hey, Lakebill, how are you doing, man? Everyone calls her Lakebill. Hey, hey, it's Miss Bell. How are you? I have three seconds. What's up? Let's have a profound moment. I mean, I see, you know, I recently went to a thing. I like the Chateau or something and I saw a fellow person who was going through an anxiety. I have an early problem, so I get places way too early. Good. And like I was early for this podcast. And yeah. And I have an ex-boyfriend who actually told me that, you know, who was like, you're too hot to show up this early. Like you have to be very late. You have to like, yeah, it's not OK. And I thought that was very sweet. But that is true. But I do like people that just get things going because it's so hard to be cool and wait. It's so hard. I don't guys, I'm just it's like I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like because I don't have ADHD because my daughter does and my son does. But I just can't I get there way too early because I'm nervous I'm going to be late. So it's probably people pleasey, I guess. I don't know. It could be tactical. Like I like to get there early so that I can leave early and go. Hey, that's true. You know what? Yes. We can kind of see people come in and it's not as overwhelming as walking to a packed place. It's bumper to bumper. And you're like, I can't even guess. You know what? I can't get this. But I will say I like this this Golden Globes thing because first of all, if you go to a party for, let's say, it's a Golden Globes. Now a party is almost as bad as an effort, as a look for going to the Golden Globes. It's pretty much around the same budget, around the same everything. And if you go to a party, you have to think, am I going to go to a party Friday, a party Saturday, and Sunday after the show. So three looks for a female, right? Do you do your hair three times? Yes. Is there anything you save on the? There's no saving. OK, the only thing I would say is that I style myself right now. So that has been kind of groovy because it's like an art form. Right? Yeah. Like I'm a visual person. I enjoy this shit. So like I'll give it a go. And so I buy the only the only the only thing I splurge on is like I you know, I get shit that's secondhand. So I like buying consignment. Oh, cool. Yeah. And vintage. I just it's like fun. It's like finding. Yeah. You know, it's like I watch those guys with the metal detectors who like look in dirt and find things like I can watch. Find your dress. Yeah. So that's similar. It's scratching a similar bitch. Inside baseball. But I've not been I don't go a lot of watches. But the last time I was at the Oscars. Whoops. You walk out in the red carpet just for people listening. And then you stand there and then there's a wall of people screaming. I mean, they're waiting for Timothy Chalamet or you know, Jody Foster or something. And there's just wall of people screaming at you. Do you pivot and kind of smile and they're going like like like screaming like just a four and you have a face that you put on. Can we see it? I do. I do this. OK, good. OK, here it is. Off your phones off. Lake Lake Bell here here here. I like this pleated pants out here. Over here over here. You're not supposed to see this part. Are those purple? I'm not even going to guess. No, no, they're they're another shade of blue. You know what's cool about you is that you don't you don't you don't you're not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You don't seem to care about being a star. I mean, you you're one of those celebrities that just sort of if there's a coolness factor to that, you're not needy. Are you? I mean, I'm thirsty. I just want to make. I think of like a working actor. Like I feel like, you know, I mean, like I go in the subway, like I go. I don't feel that's how I see you. And also you write and direct into all the other things. But a lot of people live or die by this. How their heat as a celebrity, it's like a really huge deal. You don't seem to. Doesn't bother you. It doesn't. And also I have two little kids, right? So yeah, my mom and I to boot. I have kids that have had some heavy shit happen. We we know about your book. And I thought it was I read some of the the quotes and they they teared me up. I mean, it's like the way you couched. Seizures was so beautiful. I mean, you're a great writer. Thank you. I think that the context of that has always, you know, yeah, I've had kids now for 10 years, so it's like all of it, even when I'm directing and they're like, we lost a location. Oh my God, we're freaking out. You know, it's going to be, you know, everyone's the actors could be so sad. We can't. Oh my God. I don't know what to say. And I'm just like, this is a cool job. We're like, I've seen I've held my my both of my children in different states of are they dying or not, you know? And so I think contextually, I'm like, we're going to find another location. Yeah, we're going to be fine. It's a movie, you know, it does put it in perspective when you go, there are a lot worse problems right now. I wish I wouldn't freak out so hard because we're wasting freak out. Also, for all the time that we just freaked out about that, we could have been like, you know, like, let's see what's across the street. Let's see. Can we talk to. Let's talk. And it's funny. They always figured out they all you always figure it out. So I see the movie. You don't see a fucking blip. No. And frankly, just if we're talking inside baseball about directing for a second, it's like, often there are moments where, OK, you did lose that location. And then whatever for or like, we have to reshoot this scene because of Baba Baba and you're going, oh my God, I can't think of a worse piece of information from my editor right now. But whatever it is, it always ends up kind of exactly as it should be. It's always great, you know, especially when you have to revisit something. Or you get a new location and then you just make it work. And then no one's the wise of the sees the movie and they go, I don't really care about that stuff. Is the movie working? But also in life, like now with parenting and shit like that, you're just like, well, you know, a lot of the times we come up against moments where it's not as you planned, it's not how you thought it was going to be. This person kind of did this and you thought they were going to do that. All those expectations are what get in the way of it. If you could just kind of sort of adapt and adjust. I mean, that's what I'm always trying to, you know, sort of teach to my children. The adapt is just roll with stuff. OK, now we'll deal with this and then this and really think of life as a kind of a series of problems in a sense, you know, it's hard to watch kids get so much anxiety also because you go, God, this is your worst thing. And it's really nothing in the big picture. But to this point in your life, like high school, especially is very hard. Yes. And you go, fuck, I wish I could talk you down. And just to say, you won't really remember almost any of this problems. Oh, young people. Young people are nostalgic for the analog world. I hear this a lot. And they'll watch Grey's Anatomy like crazy because they don't have iPhones. They don't have Instagram. They don't have so the toxicity to that. And now you raising your young people through this is a whole other set of challenges. I have it's funny. I went and got to talking about nostalgia. So I don't know if you guys go to video, which is a really cool art house theater in Los Angeles and also a nonprofit that does that kind of preserves DVDs and VHS tapes. I go and take my kids to go rent DVDs. And cool. Of I then bought myself, you know, for the house, a little combo TV and DVD. The DVD player. Oh, right. You plug it right in. You see this is the device it's on. And there's right in those are already gone. It's crazy. Yeah. And the idea of not scrolling. What are we going to watch? I don't know. I've already seen that. Like this is it. This is what we're watching. Right to that. We're putting it in and then choice called Deborah. And so I'm like, you have to be very delicate with Deborah. And so you press the button on you. Wait. Wait. Yeah. Wait. Now press eject and wait. You know, there's a lot of waiting put it in. Press it. You know, it's like everything is so concerned. We're going to push it. It kind of pulls it from your hand if you go really lightly. It kind of sucks it in. I think it's it's great. We were at one point only had a Blu-ray player when we moved up to this house and and we just quickly bought 10 Blu-rays. And so I guess we're going to watch the Godfather. And and then you're you're committed to the movie. And it really is when you're on live streaming and watching all these shows, you're like, I don't know, you're feeling this. OK. And then you're gone. You're out. Yeah. Yeah. What is that? It is actually feeding our short attention span. And it's just like, yes, you're like, it's like it's it's actually flexing and and it's flexing a muscle that we shouldn't, which is to just bail. You know, yeah, adaptation and being adaptive. Let's talk about the chair company, a perfect. Introduction to that, which my wife and I watched the first two episodes last night. Oh, you did. And she did not have to watch the second episode, unless she wanted to. OK. And so we both fell in love with it. It's so the reason we loved it and it didn't make us wander is because it it's full of so many surprises. It's Tim Robinson in full quirk and you and others. And so it keeps going places you don't expect. So I think it's great. And it's been picked up for season two, I heard. Yes, you're in a hit. I will say that I'm not really in the first episodes. I'm kind of like, you know, it all in furls. So that's what I'm. Shut up, Barb. Exactly. He yells up the stairs. I go, oh, my God. Yeah. Shut up, Barb. You know, so bananas. Everyone acts like it's normal. OK, cool. Yes. That's the thing is I think being a straight man, you know, straight woman to his really just chaotic, wonderful, misanthropic, curmudgeonly tornado of a character. So stressed. I don't know. So stressed. And like shooting with him, he's not like that at all. I don't know if you know him personally. I don't know him at all. Very. I assume he's not. No, but you never know. He was on SNL for a while and wrote. It's funny. Classically did not use him right or something because look at all this shit he's done. It's so. But the people's reaction to his character and you being one of them is, you know, the laugh is often on someone processing madness that we don't get a chance to as viewers from home, you know, like. So you've, you know, I can see how it's I don't know where it's going, but, you know, I'm going to. I'm so excited, you know, for you to to unfurl the other ones. Yeah. The fact that you're on number two. Have you seen any of the finished number two? You finished number two. OK. It gets it goes not where you think ever. And I think what I love about the show and being a part of it is that it is unique in its tone. Yes. And it surprises you. There's a piece in there which doesn't give away the plot or anything where he's driving with somebody and he does a satire basically about live streaming or just non performative people who make millions of dollars or something. It's sort of X rated rapping, but it wasn't rapping. They're just talking, you know, the moment I'm talking about like that was really surprising. It was just a great moment to put that in there. And it was just really laugh out loud, funny. The way the guy. Yeah, it's also like the the the camera work is so excellent. Actually, the DP like has such a. Well, also, I give credit to Andy DeYoung as well, just the director who did friendship. People have seen that. And it has such a sometimes almost like Lin-Chi-Anne. Like you'll see it's like it gets David Lin-Chi-Anne is brought up. Mohan Drive for some of the Reddit people talking about it. Yeah, quirky, quirky. Yeah. And when you I don't know if it's up for best comedy, but when you see a comedy that you actually laugh at, which is honestly rare. Yeah. Well, we're all snobs, but when you laugh because it's not predictable and you're and there's something out of the blue throwaway lines right and left where you're like, oh my God. These kids are getting drunk with their teacher at the set. And you're like, what their teacher? Like they just throw stuff that's just so weird. And no one mentions it. You go, right. And it's like a little throwaway that you go, that's a real on my birthday. You know, like that was a that's a perfect example of like. What? There's no reason. Why? I'm like, well, we're a random laugh and then it just keeps going. And you go, because I've worked with HBO before and I've obviously had a ton of comedies. And usually I feel like the the the the flavor and the general kind of movement of the music is like clean. Keep it clean and then bring it on back and then you flood that line. Go again. You know, it's like faster, you know, cleaner, tighter. And with this, I really felt like I was in a different sheet of music. Like I was not. Yeah, it was a different. It was like jazz riffing because there were moments where, you know, he might flub. And I was like, oh, I see they they're going to use that take. Yeah, they'll keep it because it's real. Yeah, because it felt and so the kind of awkward the tension of that is long pauses and weird things were normally they go, can you just tighten that up? We'll just got to keep it moving. And you're like, no. You could look like that. It's just like strangle that comedy in a second with a different director. You know, completely beat the shit out of it. And so I'm I'm I'm envious because I don't think I've ever been in that situation. But I know what you mean. And I think that the the genius of Marlon Brando, what a weird reference. But he tried, he tried to get it ad hoc. He tried to discover in the moment. He didn't want to be locked in. He wanted to he'd have the on an orange or you peel it and get his line, whatever. Yeah, deconstruct the idea of it. And then obviously when you're doing takes and you're discovering it real time, like you like are going, this is real for me right now. This is not like I rehearsed it. It does pop and I can feel that. That's what I'm feeling when I'm watching the show, I guess. Yeah, we don't rehearse at all. So only if there was a stunt or something, you know, with but but even I mean, we'll rehearse the stunt, but we'll never rehearse the lines like before, you know, Clint Eastwood or Woody Allen, really, you know, yeah, you just be in the moment and you'll say it for the first time then. And it makes people good because even those Clint Eastwood movies, they say, when I come to the set, you know, I've had guys that do 1520 takes. So you're basically almost carrying your many sides to the real shooting going, well, I know we're not using the first eight. I know. And which is such a bummer because in comedy, you're like, sometimes things just happen and now I've got to recreate them because of continuity. And I'm like, you can just get rehearsal even it's half the time. It's the funniest because that's the first time it's I agree. It'll back and forth. Yeah. Shoot the rehearsal. I always once. Yeah, always shoot the rehearsal, right? So I don't even tell them it's just on for you as a director. And then you're seeing this style or maybe you've seen it before. Does it influence you? Do you try to emulate it or do you do it yourself anyway? I'm really interested. I mean, I learned how to direct by being in the fucking trenches of a trillion different sets and how people are operating, but not just within, you know, within the director's brain, but, you know, how they're relating to the rest of the departments, you know, and how actors are feeling, you know, with different things. That performance, like I can tell the way that the way that director just spoke to this actor really got that great performance or actually botched it. Like, yeah. And so we and also, obviously, as as actors, we're kind of like, I know what I like and what I don't like, you know. Well, if you're tuning into that, which is different because most people are just worried about the lines and the actors are just doing it. If you're adding, I'm tuning into the director, not only talking to me, but how he's dealing with the DP, how he's dealing with the other departments. That's when you start to learn about directing, because all that stuff is like you're on blinders if you're an actor. And then you go, wait, what do you even do back here? And there's so many, so many things happen. Someone comes up with two pieces of carpet. This one, this one, he's like that one. You're like, OK, and you go, oh, this is for a scene in three weeks they're working on and there's storyboards. There's so many things to go over. Yeah, a lot of work. I think that also, you know, if you have access at all, for instance, when they say, OK, you can go to your trailer and we'll call you when you're ready. You know, it's like you have the access to be like, oh, I'll go ahead and just get a chair and I'll sit here and just get a tea and watch. I want to watch them flip it over to the other side and see how they do it, how fast they do it, who does what. Yeah, it is quite a rush, though, right? Like when you have an idea about a scene and then you get the first rough cut of it or I felt good, but you don't know. And you go, fuck, it's working. And this is great. And you're bringing people into the edit bay. What do you think of their laughing or saying this is great? And so that's the rush of the hard work of the director so hard. But you work for that. That's the moment, right? Well, yeah, it's been interesting, like having the kids on sets and stuff where they're looking at it and they're going, oh, my God, you know, I have to explain this is a scene that will be probably five seconds. All of these hundreds of people are here. We're all we're there's all of this work. All these trucks for these five. You know, right? That's the funny thing. What you got an eighth of a page one day when you go in, you go, it's still the same hair and makeup. Oh, yeah, yeah. Same everything. Everyone's coming to work. Everyone's just to get a look, a reaction shot. An eighth of a page can also be like, you know, you know, she comes in, she takes her, you know, she she she takes, she makes a tea, she sits down and she calls her mother. Okay, fine. You know, and there's like three lines or something like that. And you're like, okay, I'm going to be in and out for this one. But, you know, it's not true. Hilariously true. Even I remember those superhero movies, they said we do about a fourth of a page a day. They're like, the line is like the Batmobile tears through Gotham and you're like, well, that's going to take a while. That's a week. That's a week. Yeah, they're the whole city. Yeah. So that's why little things like that, you're right. There's some where they'll go in a two shot and you're out of there and you don't even notice it. You're like, oh my God, we're just going to stay on a two shot. That's great. And then some you're like, I had no idea this would take four hours. I know. No. And I try to, I mean, I get people out. I move really quickly because I do think that in general I do favor people, you know, two shots and got some things like that and like playing it in the wide and, you know, get two cameras running and see what you get. Moving masters. Yeah. Well, they work. I mean, it's cool because it makes you pay attention if you're the audience. Oh yeah. And the actors love it. The actors love it. We love it when we can come in and just be with each other and exist in the space. Oh, it's, if you ever have to need someone in a movie that I could do with anybody, I'll do an Italian waiter or something. But that, you know, when you watch old timey films, there's a lot of moving masters. There's a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of course, Woody Allen really adapted that. But old timey films to edit was like spooling 100,000 feet of footage to do one of the lead. So they really made sure that now it's in the last 20 years. I know. You know, I do cross coverage for comedians though. Like we love that. We like to be able to play and if there's a happy accident that happens and someone says something fucking hilarious, we got it and we have a response to it. You know, it's like your real reaction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had someone do on a movie kind of sabotage because I did my side and then when they did their side, they changed their lines and all these things in AdLib and I was like, oh, so I have no reaction to any of this. That's like a little dastardly move. It's really a bummer to be on. I mean, like I've been, you know, I did a sketch show recently and the budget was low. And so it was like they couldn't do two cameras running, you know, and it was like we're just doing a quick set. And I was like, ah, fucking A, because it's it's you're really screwed kind of because. Yeah, fucking A. I say to people get get a crew of three, get like three actors together, do it on iPhones with maybe one sound person and just give yourself 12 days to shoot. You know, I mean, yeah, sometimes these things are so magnificently done and that, but there's no they're there and you're flipping off immediately. Yeah, I, you know, I think that's why also, you know, with chair company, it's like you're there is kind of an economy to how I mean, yes, we had like a full rig and everything, but there is an economy to the visual storytelling too. You know, it's like he's using zooms, you know, it's like you're out here, you're you're coming in. I mean, that's just one shot, but it's doing a lot, you know. I thought that show would be a little more low budget only because it's just a funny guy to funny and he was also on what I was called. I think you should leave. And so you just go, I don't know what budget they're giving a guy who's just funny because I don't know. I mean, sometimes they would spend on a big drama, right? Sure. And so when you see these are like, they'll come up with something, but it looks great. And I kept thinking, wow, there's a lot happening here. They're not just it's not a cheap. Yeah. Beautiful. It's the first show too. I was going to say earlier that it's the first show where I'm, I noticed that in the scripts, like when we're reading the scripts, I'm like, oh, this scene, this whole scene, this like page and a half is purely for a joke. No. Or is a lot of money for one joke. Yeah. And in a series, it's usually like, yeah, but why is this paying off for the plot and like for this character to kind of like have an emotional arc and response in order to say something about that? No, it would be like, oh, we're just like, there was this one, I don't know if you've seen the, the flashback Christmas. And this is not giving away anything too much. If you haven't seen it, a lot of hand work here I'm doing. And the there's a flashback to us at a Christmas party. It's my, my Christmas party used to be a lawyer and they cast, there's just a moment where like Ron's talking of some guy at the party, you know, and he's going, oh, you know, get me out of here. And they cast an impersonator for Curly, like from the stooge. And I don't think we've ever done anything else. Yeah. And you'll note, you'll see it now when you watch it. Okay. So funny. And I remember coming to set and being like, is he doing it? And they're like, yeah, he's a curly impersonator. Okay. Like some PA. Yeah, he's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just, he just called this casual, casual. And, and then they would do on set, they would have him do this. He was amazing. And him and Ron, him and Tim are talking. And it's basically him doing this kind of speech of bullshit. And he's chattening his ear off as Curly. And they would turn up the Curly and then turn. He had this actor turn down the Curly. And when they turned down the Curly, it was almost like he couldn't even. He like couldn't find his lines. You know, he was running. He's like this poor guy because he's like, I do Curly. All right. That's like, yeah, don't just Curly. I don't, I don't do shades of Curly. Okay. I do Shakespeare. I don't do depressed Curly. I don't do bored Curly. I do Curly. He was perfect. And you'll see in it, you really notice it's only for this bit. It's tiny and flip, but boy, is it good. But those textured things, even on SNL, they'll have, they'll bring a donkey in and it costs them five grand. And then they'll go just for a cutaway and you go, oh, do we need the donkey for sure? But Lauren doesn't even question it. He goes, no, I like it. And then they're like, go find one. And I'm like, oh, fuck, because it's so easy to cut it. They go, that would save us so much. $5,000. We should be in the donkey business. Yeah, that's not a bad. We've been running 20 years from now and you'll see the donkey and you'll like be really, really happy that it's there. It's like when they show like the cold opening and then Lauren comes out and he's like talking backstage during the mullock. And behind him, there's like Roman emperors and three donkeys. And I never knew that they weren't in the show. It was just like, this is going to be the show. And you're like, ooh, that's going to be a funny sketch. But he goes, oh, I need like an Egyptian backstage. And then just all these weird things, people dressed in feathers. And then it's never a sketch. Yeah, it's just it's texture. Yeah, it's texture and it's so funny. And it's perfect. And it needs to figure it out when I was on SNL, I go, oh, those aren't even in the show. Welcome to Paris, pizzeria. Your blind date is already at the table. And there she is. Cousin Brenda, what are you doing here? You're married anyway. Substitution brought to you by Paddy Power. Cousin Brenda makes me for Beth, the office crush. Oh, get in. 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This is what happens when you don't sponsor your job on Indeed. So the next time you need someone to get the job done right, get matched with quality candidates with an Indeed sponsored job. Visit Indeed.com slash NextHire and sponsor your job today. When you do SNL now, I don't know if I told you that... Well, you were there doing Hunter Biden that Lauren is now at home base. When the show starts and you come out and kind of shake hands or hug him or whatever, you know. Let's get this one fist bump. And normally you kind of would go behind the slats and then... But I was dressed as Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig, I had the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd shake hands with Lauren. And then to make myself laugh, I would do a side thing as fast as I could with tons of energy. Like jumping and skipping over to behind the thing. Just to make myself laugh that they're seeing Biden going like this. Before he comes out like this. That's sad. That's what people said. But anyway... That's the poem. And guess what? And by the way, the fact of the matter is I'm being serious right now. I'm not kidding around. Get your facts straight, Jack. That's it. Bingo. My cheeks hurt. I'm really happy that you... Like tell us that you had cars or not. Easy wind up dolls. I know we're winding up like because she's a good laffer. Well, that was really special. I feel like I just got like a lot. You just got a private show. I know. Oh good. It's a fun song. I know. That was a beautiful song. You're a great Biden singer. And you know, I was at the 50th. And that was a special show too. And I had never... You know, I hadn't been to the show in a while. And it was like, you know, and sad in the audience, you know, and really tragic to have a little... It's wild. Yeah. And guess who stole the show? What? Guess who stole the 50th? Well... David's line for the writers was their favorite line of the night when he was in the bleachers going... No, I got to feel for it. I got to feel for it. Oh, because I left the sketch during the middle. During the big John Mulaney musical. And then I sat in the audience and they go, we're spanked. That's funny that they broke the fourth wall in the middle of the sketch. Yeah. Yeah. And the way you did it, like you truly were exhausted and kind of done with it. And they're up there dancing for their donuts. And you're just like... Dana, I saw that that 50th was won something the other night. It was a critic's choice. I think it was nominated. I think it won. Yeah. It was best 50th anniversary show. That's a new category. We were the only one up for it. Yeah. Are you, do you root for any movie at the Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of, I think that person should win or I think that movie? Are you one battle after another? Are you a Marty Supreme? Yeah, what are you? No, I, you know, I don't get, I, a word season gets, it gives me like hives. I don't know. I just... Here's Lake at the party. Did you think that was good? The lead actor won and you go, I didn't see any, I don't know the one. Well, you know, sometimes you get anxiety. They say to you, you know, who are you rooting for? Good. I gave you the precursor. I love them all. Well, it's gotten pathetic. I grew up with the Oscars and now there's like 25 award shows. The award shows. And I feel like some of them, I won't name them, but they've got their acceptance speech. And sometimes they can peek at the SEG afterwards or something. And then by the time they get to the Oscars, they're exhausted with their acceptance speech. You got to hold some. I saw that Sandler didn't win some the other night and I'm like, I want to hear Sandler's speech. They just go, like, who's got a good speech? What are you going to do? Because, you know, he, he had a good one at the Palm Springs festival. We just do Adam from night 25. That's all he says. And everyone goes, Oh, people would love it. But, you know, anyway, it's a promotion for the business. That's all it is. And yeah, and for fashion, I guess, I don't know. I have to say for Lake, if she, the fact that she's grinding it out and and killing it, the duration, it's just hard to stay in job is for this long. And you're doing a great job. But you're doing very hard to do. She's doing all of show businesses, though. You're doing every quadrant. You're not an actress waiting for the phone. Did it ring? That's yeah, I that is, I would drive me crazy. I think when I feel sedentary, like when I feel too quiet, I like to, I think I do like control. I do like to creatively, you know, kind of drumming up. And so I'm always writing. I got like, yeah, I mean, I think this audio book was very cool. I just looked it up and listening to it inside voices. It was very interesting. Just about she was interviewing people and talking about, do you like your voice and how important the voice is? And what? Yeah. Well, because I think an extension of my work within a world, I've just always been really interested and curious about our speaking voice as this kind of calling card for all the histories we've ever endured, you know, and kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I mean, whether you realize it or not, obviously accents and dialects and a little like how your vowels come out, you know, might cue that you grew up in Philadelphia or, you know, things like that. But then how we kind of puff out or peacock a little bit when we're, you know, in different scenario, like I'm articulating a little more than I normally do, you know, right now. I think I'm also a little bit lower in my register in this moment talking about this because I'm speaking more serious. Yeah. Yeah. Voices are finger prints. Sorry. Voice. I mean, you know someone from their voice your whole life and even if they age or get the voice always sort of recognizable. Yeah. And and also it can be really like it can make me crawl too. You know, I have certain, you know, if someone comes in for a job interview, you know, or something like that, I mean, to be a babysitter or whatever, you know, or an assistant and if their voice, I'm very sensitive to it. So it's like, we're out on that job, Dana. David has a cool voice. You know, I don't have a voice. I don't have a face or a voice. I'm just neutral. I could go. You could make me a character or make my voice go. Lately I've been doing Cary Grant leaving messages for a friend just every day. Every day they get the call. I hope you're having a good day. Did you see one battle after another that the Caprio kids very good. See, but you're a million. So without us in itself, your vocal dexterity is like, I'm an awe of that, you know. In two seconds, it changes. I enjoy it. I it's fun. I don't really practice it or anything, but I'm working on Billy Bob Thornton in his landman character. You know, I don't I didn't see that. So I can't. Yeah, it's another one that's I couldn't describe it, but it's it goes surprising places. I have to say. It's it's totally different than your show, but it goes surprising places. And he's just great in Inside Voice. You know, I talked to like the likes of iconic voices like like Jeff Goldblum and like, where did that start? You know, and like very more, you know, people who have been very. Imitated, you know, very impersonated for sure. Yeah, voices. Yes. And then I do Billy Bob and his T-Mobile commercial. Okay, let's see. I'm kidding. Okay. He does a T-Mobile commercial where he's like from landman. Right, Dana? Have you seen it? Basically, yeah. He's walking out in the desert. Come on now, whatever he's talking about. Yeah. You know, T-Mobile's got more, you know, what the fuck's going on here? God damn it. No, he's they have the F word too. I mean, that's the same. Your show, it just those fly whenever they fly. Or they fly. And they do whatever you, you know. You find Dana that like to get into an accent or dial, sorry, now we're getting into like my obsession, but like, do you find that you, you have a bridge phrase? Cause I find with accents, dialects, I have like a bridge or a phrase to get. Oh yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah. A thousand percent. You don't just jump in. You got a hook. Yeah. You need a, you need a little hook. And for Biden, it was that, guess what? Yeah. And by the way, the fact of the matter is, come on. And so that got me into it. And then I could kind of talk like him, but that was a challenge. But anyway, it's always things are coming at me. I mean, Trump's been done forever. I, you know, I don't know if you guys are aware of that. How many people do an impression? So there's, there's, I think Pierce Morgan has a very interesting voice. And I think that Senator Kennedy has a, you know, obviously Bobby Kennedy, Junior I do, but yeah, there's a lot of people out there and there's regular movie stars. Anyway, it's fun. But, um, shall we wrap it up? I don't know. I don't know. Do you have any other questions? Cause we think you, you're a, she did a great job with two children. Thank you for doing your hair. She writes, she directs, she does. It's not quite the Golden Wilms. Now, when you do a podcast, we had heard that when we have an actress on, they might not want to come on video because it's, they have to doll up. And I said, I think in podcasts, you catch a little bit of a break. You, you do. And, you know, they want glam. And I was like, I mean, I think I can do the glam. I can glam in my bathroom, you know, with my curling iron and with a banana clip and a scrunchie. And yeah, you know, but I don't know. Well, you, you're photogenic. I mean, I'll just say it kind of casually. You really have great features. Yeah. So, um, it's, it just, you have, I'm sure directors say, you don't have a bad angle, probably, you know, um, yeah, but, uh, yeah, it's fine. And I do think we're all used to this and, you know, I have a couple of ring lights in a window and I mean, we're all kind of a little more than the early days where it was pitch black and no one, what we were doing. Now you see people, it looks like a studio. Well, I hope I get to see you guys at these parties. Yeah, I do. I've quoted you often throughout the years because when we did the press junket, you know, it's the awkward goodbye. Yeah. We've been hanging out all day with Bobby Moynihan and laughing and stuff. And then it's like, Hey, and then you just said, see you around campus. I did say that. So I use that a lot. Well, cause it's kind of like, it's fun, right? So let's, what says a lot. We're all at college basically, and we're going to run into each other. We're in show business, which is weirdly such a tiny group of people in the big picture, you know, is not that many parties or that many comedians or whatever. It's like a little party and you see someone who you don't, you haven't met before, but you both are actors and you both know that you're actors and you do the kind of like, Hi. You know, that's how I'm going to say hi to you. Like, I know, you know, we both know that we know each other. Here's Lake when I see her, the golden globe where I go, Hi, Lake. And you go, Hi, I know you from somewhere. And I go, Where did we? Yeah, we just. Well, the point is, though, it's so nice to see you when you don't know if you've met them or not. Yeah. We have when they give you a soft hug and you see that they're looking over at a bigger celebrity. They're going, I got it. I've never had anyone even look at me at those parts. They just go like this. Oh, usually they say, could I get a freshen up? They go to give me a hug by the shoulders and then they move me. They move you over to the side. Benicio. Benicio. One time we went to a party. David got on my shoulders and I was like, you couldn't see me. And then he was dancing around with the Mararachi thing going on. Look at me. Yeah. Well, like, why is like so popular? Like even I'm here even more on every show and with my saying, like, no, you don't say it hardly at all. You said like maybe twice, but like is really good. It was like really hard and I was like very scared. And I was like really hard. It's like really hard. It's like when they don't finish it, they go, it's kind of like. Yeah, they don't finish this. And you're like, you just got to like that's all you got to. But that's been around since the 80s or 70s sort of called the Valley Girl, but it's even still this back with people from everywhere. It's still here. It's I mean, but it's better than the like. I said it. Oh, because we're kind of teasing it a little bit. I mean, if I hear myself say I'm a substitute lake for like, it's like it's like it's like it's like I didn't even know, but it's like we can start a thing. Well, sometimes you're allowed to utilize it as a version of as if it is like. Right. No, it's as utility as a word. Yeah, utility. Yeah, it's not completely, you know. All right. All right. Dane, I made you come in the kitchen. The chair company on HBO, which makes quality products, I have to say, you know, HBO is a big guy doesn't fuck around. They wait for a good one. They don't make shitty ones. And so this is HBO Max. Jim Downey, our friends on it. Tim, our guy is our. Tim. Who's tell him. Oh, tell him. Hello. You want me to tell him? He was my head writer when I was there. I had to report to him. Okay. I'm crazy. We all we all kind of did. Yeah. If you run into Downey, just go, what was it like to be a regular infantryman in George Washington's army in the latter part of the war? And he'll give you two hours. The guy goes into libraries and colleges. He's from Harvard or Yale. I don't know. He's the brainiac of all time in terms of American history. Really? And he's fascinating to listen to. Yeah. I don't have things with him. I can't believe I ignore him so much. Oh, yeah. You haven't. Oh, yeah. You don't interact with him. You're at home. Barb. Barb is over there. All right. Barb. Barb. She's going off Barb. Trosper. Trosper. Yeah. Trosper. Barb. Trosper. Rodney. And Barb. Trosper. Even stupider. Barb. Trosper. I remember I was like even the words like Fisher Robey. With the name of the mall company. Someone's working overtime on these dumb names. Oh, it's so good. What's a chair company quick? Is it broader or something? I love walking around the mall. There's something about a mall. Walking around a mall. It's really fun. Tecca is like, it makes sense. But it's like a robot. I just kept being like, I'm dyslexic. So I was like, oh, Fisher Robey, that'll be that. Like I couldn't. Blind please. And then Trosper. Oh, there was something else like I kept saying a name wrong. Oh, this was really fun. Sorry, last thing. But they would say like there's the girlfriend, like the fiance of our daughter is named Hera. But we intentionally say it wrong. So sometimes it's Tara and Tara. And I was like, is it Tara or Tara? And they're like, it's fine. Don't worry about it. And I was like, but is it they're like. Because that happens in real life. People say yeah. And it's just because we don't like her, you know. I love people like that are in charge of this that are not control freaks and open to the mistakes and the weirdness and the quirky. Yeah. And we don't love that. It's Tara. Tara, Tara, Tara, Tara. All right, Lake. Thank you. I have to go now. Bye guys. Bye. I appreciate you coming on. All right. 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