Giggling about bologna, poison, and ponzi schemes
50 min
•May 1, 202629 days agoSummary
Two hosts discuss personal anecdotes ranging from cosmetic procedures like RF microneedling to relationship dynamics, dating etiquette, and broader cultural observations about feminism, vegetarianism, and entertainment industry trends. The episode blends humor with commentary on celebrity culture, friendship boundaries, and self-improvement.
Insights
- Women's empowerment in traditionally male-dominated fields (country music, stand-up comedy, politics) requires organized PR strategy and consensus messaging to counter negative stereotypes
- Relationship dynamics shift significantly in the 30s with faster timelines and increased complexity around friend-dating-ex boundaries based on emotional investment level
- Cosmetic procedures like RF microneedling are becoming normalized wellness choices with minimal downtime, reflecting broader acceptance of non-invasive aesthetic treatments
- Celebrity culture increasingly values privacy and 'download' sharing of major life events, shifting from traditional public announcements to selective disclosure
- Friendship quality is measured by willingness to provide real-time support during conflicts, acting as both emotional coach and strategic advisor
Trends
Shift toward minimally invasive cosmetic procedures with quick recovery times over traditional BotoxCelebrity engagement announcements moving to private/undisclosed status rather than public revealsIncreased visibility of women in country music facing industry resistance despite historical female iconsDating culture emphasis on 'second wife energy' and intentional partner selection over reactive relationship patternsNormalization of discussing mental health, hormonal cycles, and relationship dynamics in mainstream entertainmentGrowing skepticism of male-dominated motivational speaking industry replaced by podcast-based influencersReality TV fatigue driving interest in alternative documentary formats (nursing home reality, organizational content)Vegetarian/vegan movement struggling with PR and messaging consistency, perceived as preachy rather than practical
Topics
RF Microneedling and Cosmetic ProceduresRelationship Boundaries and Friend Dating ExesWomen in Country Music IndustryCelebrity Privacy and Engagement AnnouncementsFeminism and Gender Equality in EntertainmentDating Patterns and Partner SelectionVegetarianism and Animal EthicsReality TV Format EvolutionFriendship Dynamics and Conflict ResolutionCosmetic Surgery Decision-MakingHormonal Cycles and Mood ChangesPonzi Schemes and Financial FraudNursing Home Reality TV ConceptsNepo Baby CultureCarbon Monoxide Safety
Companies
Netflix
Referenced for Lainey Wilson documentary and Khloe Kardashian home organization show
Page Six
Celebrity gossip publication that wrote article about host's Khloe Kardashian perfume comment
Oscar Mayer
Baloney/hot dog brand discussed in context of childhood memories and advertising jingles
People
Khloe Kardashian
Discussed for perfume quality and home organization Netflix show appearance
Lainey Wilson
Featured in Netflix documentary; discussed as example of women succeeding in country music
Harry Styles
Mentioned in blind item rumor about potential engagement to Joey Kravitz
Joey Kravitz
Subject of engagement rumors and celebrity dating speculation
Lenny Kravitz
Referenced as father of Joey Kravitz in context of A-list celebrity status
Charlize Theron
Mentioned as example of A-list celebrity maintaining privacy and exclusivity
Taylor Swift
Referenced in blind item about alleged jealousy regarding Harry Styles dating
Billie Eilish
Quoted for statement about contradiction between loving animals and eating meat
Shania Twain
Referenced as iconic female country music artist representing women in the genre
Dolly Parton
Referenced as iconic female country music artist representing women in the genre
Elle Fanning
Mentioned in context of celebrity body discussion and physical appearance
Beyoncé
Referenced in context of country music controversy and genre boundary debates
Quotes
"Everyone is just a girl and we want to talk about girl things"
Host•~15 minutes
"I think I'm just too nice when I'm not PMSing. I think PMSing is when I'm in tune with shit"
Host•~45 minutes
"You're proving my point"
Host•~90 minutes
"I never want to be with a man who didn't choose me the first time"
Host•~75 minutes
"Learning how to take an L will make you more successful in the long run"
Host•~95 minutes
Full Transcript
I mean the day just got away from me. Hello my guillotine gigglers. Violent for no reason. Quick Mormon update. What the fuck? Apparently the girls in the new Mormon show aren't all Mormon. So people were like telling me that and I was like how is I supposed to know it's called the new Mormon show? Yeah. Is this a new segment we have weekly? It's like updating the Mormon community. Our Mormon correspondents are in my DMs. And then Macy from the other Mormon show DMed me and was like hi girly we have to play tennis. So I'm in with all the tennis reality girls finally because everyone's like make friends with Macy and I'm like I'm 34. I don't know how to make new friends. And I said hi my love. Did you? Wait did she play tennis? She's like really good at tennis and her sister's really good at tennis. Oh right right right right right. Because I get a lot of like hey someone's gonna play tennis and I'm like okay let's see. That's so funny because my DMs are like hey I get UTIs all the time too. We have such different DMs. I feel we have such different interactions with people. I feel like page coded girls are up in my DMs. Like keeping me. They're trying to lend a helping hand. Yeah so I get both. They're empathic. Oh god. Actually I got a really funny DM from a giggler. Because sometimes gigglers would be like this would be a funny bit. Like you should talk about it. And they said what do you do when a guy's talking dirty to you in bed. And you like can't really hear what he said. Like you can't say what. Yeah. No that's the worst thing. But like you can't just go with it because you don't know what he said. And you don't want to sign up for something you didn't sign up for. What's the move if he's like. I just like. Honestly because at that point if I. I was like no I'm blowing glass. Because really like what are they really gonna do that's like crazy. Like there is such talk. Like it's four minutes and 30 seconds out of your day. Like what are they really gonna throw at you that you haven't seen before. And like I mean I think we're all alluding to anal here. We are what are we two minutes into the episode and you brought up anal. But you have time to be like hey I don't swing that way. You do you do. You could be like I was muffled in the pillow. I thought you said what rhymes are they and all. I don't know. But I got my micro needle and honey. Tell me everything. So I'm like a couple I got it at 9am this morning and it's 4 o'clock right now. You look normal. I look normal right. Yeah. It's crazy. I want to say I was read for maybe three hours. I did it's called RF micro needling. I went to a doctor. I went to doctor. I'm marine. Mop mood. Let me tell you something that I really appreciate in people. I like when I meet someone and they are their profession. Like when I met this woman I looked at her and I go yeah you're you're touching my face. I'm like God damn plastic surgeon. Like I and I hope that that I'm also the type of person that like if I feel a compliment in my head I have to say it like so like walking down the street if I think you have a cool outfit I'm saying it because I think that like builds up your aura points like say it you know like don't keep a compliment in. So like whenever I see someone and they're just like so their profession like sometimes Taylor will come to like different things we're doing and I'm like you look like a makeup artist right now. Well because you love Barbies different outfits. So when this doctor walked in the room first when I walked into her office I was like yeah this is where I'm getting freaking micro needling done. Okay. And then when she comes in the room I was like hell yeah like your outfit your skin everything about you her ring stack like I just felt good. Her ring stack. I love that. Her aesthetic. Yeah just her whole aesthetic. I was so proud of her for being a plastic surgeon. I'm just laughing because the group on places I've been to you would call the police. You call the police. This is literally insane. So anyway so I got my groaning done you go in they numb your whole face with like a cream for like 30 minutes and I mean you're numb. Then the procedure takes maybe 15 minutes. It basically feels like they're stamping your skin and like you feel it a little bit but here's what I'll say in terms of pain tolerance. I actually think laser hair removal hurts. Do you think it hurts? It's definitely not comfortable but it doesn't hurt compared to waxing. Okay this hurts less than laser hair removal and it's way quicker. They do like a pass on your face three times I would say. Does she recommend this over like all the laser facials that the girls are doing? Different it's different like it gives you different results. Yeah like micro needling I feel like is for boost of collagen. But we're 27. I know. Forever. But here's the other thing why I liked her like when I'm laying in the chair and she's talking to me like we're talking about like girls stuff like we were literally talking about if we wanted to get boob jobs or not. She was selling you a boob job. No she was saying like reasons why she was like well this is like reasons why some people don't want to get them and this is reasons why I personally haven't gotten them but like I do think about it like it just felt like. Because your plastic surgeon at the end of the day is just a girl. Well I'm laying there and I'm like oh everyone is just a girl. Everyone is just a girl and we want to talk about girl things. Not to come for the men only six minutes into the pod but like when there's a man who does like facial surgery especially who's straight. I'm like men can't tell if you got a haircut how are you changing like the subtleties of someone's nose. I don't think I've ever met a man with a nose job. They're out there but not straight men because because I think of nose that looks kind of broken is like considered hot. Yeah. Yeah well because remember like two summers ago the guys got rat guy summer and I'm like. That was. Oh that's a headline and you go there PR companies. Great crazy like they get dad bods they get rat guy summer it's like what do we have. Oh one last gigler message. She is woman of STEM of the week. She said that she finished giving her boyfriend a blow job. And after he came she went. Women in STEM. And he said what and she goes never mind. I can't. That's hilarious. I can't. I love that. Yeah. I got the micro needling done and then they gave me products to use for like the next five days. Literally no downtime if I wanted to put makeup on tonight I could it's like a gentle face wash like good moisturizer. You want to be what's it called the person that does stuff for your face. Esthetician. Esthetician what's the other one that pops pimples. Termatologist. You want to be it's so bad you're pretending you are one right now and you're loving it you're like and then you just use a light cleanser. I just love talking about my hobby. Okay. If you had a passion. Yeah. And do you want to know what you have to go for three sessions six weeks in between and then you don't have to go again for like a year or like six months. And I'm really excited to see this journey. I love how you went from Botox to this. And I really hope in seven months you aren't on us weekly being like don't get my grenade. Wait did you see page six wrote an article and then Khloe Kardashian commented it and I was like oh my God. What they write an article about page six wrote an article about how I said Khloe Kardashian's perfume is the best. I've ever smelled and then Khloe commented it and it was like oh my God this is like so nice or something and then I see the giglers being like it's a. The one time I like say I like something and I like a mess did I'm page six needs to get something else needs to happen on reality TV like come on. Well they also like to take things factually when it's it's full of a it's a bit it's full of a bit you can't just take half of the bit and post it somewhere again this is my personal diary. Well shout out to Khloe we love you know and I I'm sure her perfumes are amazing she is a celebrity like you know and you look at a celebrity and you're like. Like Claire Danes you look at a celebrity and you're like there's something about you that I'm scared of and I don't want to be on your bad side when I look at Khloe Kardashian there's something about her that I'm like I bet your house smells so good. Like I know that for a fact there's just something about her where I'm like I bet she smells so phenomenal. Well I watched her I rewatch her Netflix show where they organize her house. Oh and she's like they basically were like when I have to be here because Khloe's already insanely organized but we're going to organize her organized house and when I'm bored and don't want to clean my own house which is every day I'll watch organization shows. It's like my version of porn it's like I can't do that but let's watch people who can. Or like it's a gear version of like a motivational speaker. Yeah and then I never start the business. It's your Tony Robbins. Where has he been people talk about him enough. Good. Go to sleep. I feel like there was like a time like in the early 2000s late 90s where there was like a lot of male motivational speakers. Well there still are now they're podcasters. He has a podcast for sure. Yeah that's true. I want to bring back the word baloney like when someone is like just like full of baloney baloney someone says something baloney that's baloney. Do you remember in high school. Say baloney again. My story is about baloney. Spell it. B. A. No. Okay there's no. B. A. Even I would have said the Italian version and then the American version. Baloney is B. L. B. A. L. O. N. E. Y. American but Italian is B. O. L. O. G. N. A. Baloney. I'm going to fact check that one. How did you spell your Italian version. B. O. B. A. No. None of them in no version ever is it B. A. Okay how do you spell baloney. B. O. L. O. B. A. What are you Googling. I didn't I saw. Well we just had an alphabet face off. I'm giggling so good. Look don't tell me to spell shit because I actually am good at spelling. Why does it keep becoming a bolognese. Because you're hungry. Okay. You know what. Fuck you. Am I taking an L on this one because. No do you know why. I have my period and I don't. I got my period. This morning. Oh no that's not a good sign that means the Gigglers have synced up and that's actually a Ponzi scheme. Like that's a real problem. Well does. Yesterday said are you PMSing. And I said okay if this is me PMSing just like questioning if we should go to the eat the same food two nights in a row. I must be a fucking angel. If this is so bad me PMSing and he's just like laughing and then the morning I'm like I got my period he's like I know and I was like so mad he was right. I don't think your meaner your period you just notice things better. I don't think I'm a meaner. I'm like I'm so mad he was right. I don't think your meaner your period you just notice things better. Like other things that would I just let go by when I'm PMSing I'm like why would you say in that tone though. I'm more in tune with shit. Yeah like I'm like feeling everything. I'm clocking. I was like I think I'm just too nice when I'm not PMSing. I think PMSing is when like. Words have come out of my mouth where I'm like. Yeah sorry that was crazy and I had my period and I apologize. You know it is. It's that you can find a problem with everything in this life and three weeks out of the four I don't. I choose the high road. But that one week I'm PMSing. I'm like and that's wrong and that's wrong and I'm annoyed. You know and men are like women can't run the country because like they PMS and they'll just like blow somewhere up and like get into a fight with some country like I do feel like that about myself. I thought you're going to say something empowering. I thought you can be like you go keep me away from the nuclear weapons because you know what if I was the president and someone pissed me off. You know here's the thing though I would have a lot of AIDS like my mom would be the first line of defense of like Paige. I think that's like an extreme like decision. So I'm not worried but like sometimes when I hear people say that like about women I'm like I do do crazy shit when I have my period. You know do you know I wanted to be president when I was little like I wanted to be the first female president and then I realized later in life that I don't want to be a liar. Only men can do that. Yeah like men are good politicians because they lie and they're fake. Yeah here's the thing. You can never be fake. It's actually so annoying. It's actually ruined a lot of things. Wait can I please I remember then a Tik Tok comes up of like a clip of you on a reality TV show and there was one where someone was like Paige's ability to not speak at certain times needs to be studied and I actually as a student of the game rewatch this and was like how many times would I have taught a failure me. But this is the thing when I would be there with you I'd be like is she spacing out like how she not say anything. I didn't realize that you're playing chess while I'm out here playing checkers and you're waiting for the confessional to give the tea. You're writing notes in your head one liners but Paige how are you in a scenario watching something and you just let it happen without speaking up. I know a clip that you're talking about and I remember that moment. Why didn't you speak up. I hate to break it to you. I was spacing out during that. Do you want to know exactly what it was. I had just gotten my eyelashes done and I hated them. Okay. And they were poking there was parts that were poking me in my eye. And so I know through that entire conversation I caught the tail end because I was I was like I know for a fact that my eyelashes look ridiculous. People love cutting up clips of your reactions to things be like Paige knows and I'm like no she was thinking about this. Completely. Look I'm never going against good PR honey. And I'm not trying to expose you because sometimes it is what it is. Sometimes I will be knowing things. Sometimes you do. Sometimes a lot of times you are. Sometimes I do. I am a witch like I do feel things. We film like a whole day and you wouldn't say a word. Yeah. If you weren't in the mood. Yeah. But then you'd have a day I was like oh she's she came to work she's wearing her Prada. Paige was when she put together an outfit I knew someone was about to get yelled at. I was so scared. I had so many tells that no one ever picked up on. I was like I'm in full white honey someone's getting yelled at I have to look virginal. I have to look bridal. No underliner. You're like I'm just a fresh young angelic angel. I'm like me do something evil. I'm an angel. I'm wearing white. I have a peplum top on. One day there is a world where this podcast is just a summer house recap show. And what the day that happens the internet's going to break. The day that happens is the day like my Medicare kicks in. It's time Hannah run back the tapes. But like one episode could take us like. No we never could. We'd be dead before that's where we're doing it at the end of our lives. Why do you think more people in their 90s don't do like heroin and meth. And do like crazy shit. What are you talking about like. I guess they're all. The STD rate in nursing homes is like rampant. Like people are dying from like a. No they're not dying. They're just like all getting infected because they're all. They're in this like incubus. That's the reality show I want to watch seeing who Gertrude is going to fuck. Can I tell you something crazy. One of my friends reached out to me like not too long ago who was like hey I have this like TV show idea like I want to run it by you. And so he's like running it by me and it's basically that like it's a nursing home but it's like reality TV. Love. And so I like put him in touch with like some people that like I feel like could talk to him whatever. And this one guy like calls me about it and he's like hey like I've seen this show pitched before people have tried to make it like I've seen pilots I've even seen like first seasons of things and he goes I'm going to say something that's like really unfortunate and like this isn't coming from me. It's just like what happens in this specific genre. I was like OK. He was like people don't want to watch old people on TV because one they're like not as good looking as if you put a bunch of 20 year olds in a house. So people like fall off. He was like also like they're not doing anything like they're not we're not tracking anything because like they're so old like they are going to. OK well I have I have thoughts and like people can watch someone like a love on the spectrum and not feel that way. Yeah. But when it comes to like older people where like they're maybe dying because of just old age people tend to find like the lack of empathy. OK. But if you know my god there's no much better drama than being like where's Mildred and they're like. She's not coming to breakfast. And someone's like she owes me $20. Like as someone who is like I love watching hot people on TV. It's like my favorite thing. I think this guy is wrong because one what's it called when they're in the water doing their exercises like jazz or size. Yeah like aerobics water aerobics water aerobics that gets crazy. They always have different talents come in. So like you would just need a cast of like you would just need it to be phenomenally casted. But Paige it's going to be like below deck where who are the people working in the work in the nursing home. Well I think that would actually be a better. You're actually following the people who work for it but then you get all the comedic timing of old people who don't give a fuck. I mean my grandpa went on summer house and looked at the camera and said I hate the Hamptons. Actually a good show for that would be like how they film the office. It almost be like a fake documentary style of a nursing home. And it's cute where like you come in and it's already a community and be like. I'm just having a business meeting on. Guys sorry. By the way this is what it's like to get on a zoom with us as a production company and like 40 minutes later they're like we actually do scripted. Today we were in a meeting. Look sometimes we're in meetings and like sometimes they're think tanks their brainstorms we're like what can we create what's like art the story of our lives and sometimes Hannah will throw out the most insane things and she'll be like yeah and I sent my friend and everyone knows it's me. And it's the most insane thing you've ever heard and everyone just kind of looks at me like damn she was in a dark place at that time. I had this friend once who dated a really horrible guy and I would send her articles and I'm just like oh my god. I'm like was me. Has anyone ever sent articles to their friend that are like scientific about like what's going on hormonally when they like meet a guy and like what month they start getting annoyed with him and what month like you cannot trust yourself because like you're just on like a crazy serotonin high. No they don't. That's when I'm going to sit down with my daughter and be like the first four months don't count because you guys are sniffing each other's you know armpits. You send me scientific data. Like you send me like Dr. Ashwa Ganda said and Stephanie will send me like the most spiritual like psychedelic like this is what your aura is saying right now. So I always get like sorry like to cite my eastern and western mothers. And we know where you go. We know where you go. And I'm like guys. Okay. I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to protein bars. All I know is that they taste good. David protein bars now offers two industry leading protein bars. David's gold and bronze. 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That's davidprotein.com slash giggly. Okay, switching gears. You know, it just came across my desk and I like... I'm so hungry right now. Sorry. Me too. So like it just hit me. Wait, listen to this. This is really bad and my mom's going to be so mad at me. Okay. 10 p.m. last night. I need a little snack. I need a nosh. A little rimsy. Like something. And it's not to the point where like I'm ordering something and like the thought of like getting up and cooking something. I'm just like, who do I think I am? But then I got a grilled cheese in my head and I was like, whatever. It takes literally five minutes to make a grilled cheese. You're a chef. I'm a chef. I get up, I make my grilled cheese, I go back to my bed. Do you put butter or mayonnaise on it? So I put butter in the pan and then mayo on the sides of the bread. You naughty little girl. No, she's crazy. She's zany. You dirty dog. I go to bed. Great. I wake up this morning. I grab my dish from the night side table. I'm bringing it downstairs. I'm about to make my hot water with lemon before I go to get my micro-needling. I'm having that... I'm obsessed with you. I'm having the most page morning of page morning. I give Kitty a kiss. I give her some food. We're having a time. I walk in the kitchen and I'm like, it's a little warm. No. And I left the stove on the entire night. Wait, isn't that like how you die? Yeah, I could have blown up. No, but also from the CO2. Don't you have like a think alarm to go off? If that... Oh, like carbon monoxide? Yeah, carbon monoxide poisoning. Oh, now you're going to be googling side effects of carbon monoxide. But is carbon monoxide fire? So anyway, don't leave your oven on. It's really, really, really unsafe. This is why you don't cook. Okay, now I'm like to have to air out the hole. Yes, open. But I feel like if you were going to die from carbon monoxide, it would have happened last night. Like, I feel like if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Like now you're like Spider-Man. Like you could probably like grow walls now or something. You know, there's women who's like husbands try to poison them, but they don't do enough. It's like their body just like absorbs it. Like, I feel like I'm the type of woman that like a man would have to try and kill me. Like so many different times it'd be like a funny movie. Like every time I just like weirdly get out of it. Or you'd be like, I think I think something. Suddenly I've had more energy I've ever had before. Right. Like they inject me and I'm like, I was actually test-faster on deficient. There was a documentary. Shoot, where was it? I think it was Argentina. I think it was Argentina. About this old lady who, oh my God, she started killing all her friends. Because she started her own Ponzi scheme. Oh, that's why everything's coming together. What we were talking about today. And she basically would get them to lend her money and then she started Ponzi scheme within her T-Club. Like her Mahjong group basically. She got them all to lend her money. And then once they started saying like, hey, can I have my money back? She would poison them and kill them. But they're like all like 80. So the first one dies and everyone's like, yeah, an 80 person died. And then two weeks later, another one of them dies because she like fell. And everyone's like RIP. And then a third one dies and no one thinks of anything. But then finally they start to realize that every old person who died is owed. She owes money too. And she was literally like putting little bits of stuff in their T and killing all her friends. Oh my God. Yeah. But she still says it wasn't her because they don't actually have the evidence. But they're like three old ladies who are in your coffee club eating biscuits with you. You owe them all 20 grand and they're all dead. And she's like, this is recent or like this is an older documentary. This is like, it was 20 years ago when it happened. Oh, so she's dead. I think she might still be alive. I don't know. I don't like Google stuff after, but I'm kind of she was like 80. But I love how when women kill, they do it. They do it tastefully. It's just always shocking when a woman does something, but I hate that it gives the men like any. Well, you know what I would say? Not all women. Not all women. Also was pissing me off is I watched Lainey Wilson's documentary on Netflix. Yeah, I saw that. She's so cute and she has a big ass. So I feel like we're like connect. I'm like, she's one of us. She's one of us. And she's how you love L Fanning. I've never. Yeah, I did. I thought about L Fanning's butt. I think you just said that you love the Fanning sisters. I do, but not. But I wasn't. I wasn't like sexualizing her. But oh, because everyone says like L Fanning has like their best body. I mean, she has an amazing body. I have to check out her butt after this. Thank you. I'll put them on to do list. Look, am I a country girl? Not really, but I appreciate a good music documentary. Yeah, you have red hair. Yeah. Country music is crazy because it's one of those things that they're like, it's for the boys. Yeah, they hate women in it. It's like how only men could be chefs, but women cook and it's like in country music, it's for the men. It's like stand up comedy where it's like, it's for the men. Like I related to her because I felt like women in country music are like female. Really like any women in any sports, I'm sure they have stories for days. Story for day, but it's just so funny. Who decided like a genre of music was for men? The men. But I've never like heard a woman sing and been like, that would have been better if a man sang it. Right. Never. And then yeah, like all the pop girlies are like killing it. But then if there's like too much guitar, you're like, no, that's a man. That's a man that sings that about beer. If you sing about beer, you gotta be a man. There's also so many like subsets of country music. Well, that's why they were so mad about Beyonce. They were like, no, this is not country music and she's from Houston. Right. So I just want to shout out all the women fighting for their voice in country music. Also, when I think of country music, I think of the girls. I think of Shania Twain. I think of Dolly Parton. I don't think of, I've never thought. You know, something that did come across my desk that was actually like quite concerning. Wait, first, did you see that Harry Styles and Joey Kravitz might be engaged? Yeah. I feel like the new celebrity thing is like, Abder's and Daye did not show her wedding. Everyone was like, wait, that's cool. So now everyone's trying to do everything on this, on the download. Do you think? I think it's more fun to wonder. Yeah. That was so pessimistic of you. But I don't know if they're not share. I feel like they're just not sharing it because they're such a list celebrities. And he's got a solitaire, honey. Oh, true. I've also got on a weird TikTok algorithm of psychics, like telling me the vibes they get from couples. Have you ever gone on that? Yes, I love it. And they're always like, this is, this could be completely false. And this is just based on what I think. Because then I'm like, I'm a witch. I knew it. I think she's a Scorpio. I really feel like I could, I would connect with her. Sometimes I see her in clips and I'm like, that would be my friend. She's a nepo baby that people don't touch it about because she's such a cool nepo baby. Like her parents are so cool that they're like, you should be in front of the camera. Yeah. Lenny Kravitz is somewhere like, say it, I dare you. That's what I want to watch. That's, that's celebrity Lenny Kravitz and Charlize Theron. Yeah, those are a list celebrities. We're losing the art of a list. And I don't, that's sad to me. We've lost club culture. I don't want to lose the art of like an A list celeb because A list want podcasts and podcasters want to be A list. So it's gotten gray. Stop guys. It's gotten gray. But then there was like a blind item weird rumor that was like Taylor Swift was mad that Joey Kravitz was dating Harry Styles. But I forgot that Taylor Swift even dated Harry Styles. But also I'm like, she's engaged. I doubt you would be mad. I have a good question. Yeah. In terms of your friends and who they dated, is there an expiration date? Like how long has, how long has to go by before you're cool with them dating an ex? You know, Hannah, what a crazy question. Phenomenal question. And I truly think every situation is unique because there are men that I dated for years that if my closest friend called me and said, Hey, I'm going to hook up with him. I would not care. I would less than not care. I would be worried for her and I'd give her all my concerns, but it also be like I couldn't give a flying fuck. I've also dated nice guys that I'm like, I'm not the one for you, but like I really want you to meet someone and I have some friends. Totally. And then it's like I have a situation ship that like we could have hooked up five times. And if someone called me and said they were going out on a date, I would melt to the ground. I'd be like, no, that's such a good point because we're all just like energies like meeting each other, but there's certain people in your life that you're like, that's my man forever. Like there's definitely certain men that I'm like, we never dated, but like we dated. You know we dated and I know we dated and we have like a weird, you know, but like we never actually dated. Also, I think things get so changed so much when you cross over into your 30s because relationships go quicker. If you dated a guy and then your friends start dating him like a couple years later, then you do look at her funny like, okay, the whole time where you like eyeing him like, were you even giving me good advice? Like you start just like thinking about that. I also feel like if you have a crush on your close friend's man, that will hurt your relationship with her because like you can't act normal. Right. And I also think that's why it's important to be in relationships like me and you where we have such opposite tastes and men. It's so funny. Anyone that I would go for you would be like, that's adorable. Yeah. Like every now and then you'll dabble in my kind of man and I will be like, why the fuck did you do that? That's a horrible idea. Well, because any guy that I've dated that I've really liked, like, because there's some I've dated that I'm like, wait, I hated you the whole time and that's that says more about me than you. I hate and love our close emotions. And like that's my own trauma. But the guys that I've had like the best relationships with are the men that love how girly I am. Oh my God. That's why no man has ever been attracted to both of us too. But I'm like just thinking of like what relationships I would categorize as like those were learning lessons. That was actually a good healthy relationship. Wrong timing or like this was a bad relationship. Like when I look back on my life of dating, you can you really can see the level of like either mental illness or the level of confidence. And it's kind of crazy. But we talked about this before, but I think seesawing is so real. Whatever happens in your last relationship, you search like you overcompensate for the opposite and then you keep seesawing until you find that like middle balance. Exactly. Exactly. But it's also interesting as you get older, like people get divorced or like that. There's so many. I think you don't even have to be in a small town though, because LA in New York, I feel like that happens all the time. But I guess no, LA is like a small town because like they're all fucking famous people all fuck each other. So there's a lot of like, oh, he's now with her ex husband. I'm nervous and scared, but excited for the T in like 10 years. When we get to the point where like everyone's getting divorced. It's going to be crazy, but also empowering like when it's going to be really empowering. I love when girls divorce. I feel like it's so exciting. But and then also like there's a whole crop of divorced men who are pre trained and so tired from being yelled at and like had court ordered therapy that are like coming out of that relationship better. Like I have one girlfriend. I have one girlfriend and she's single and we'll like talk about dating or whatever. And she'll say like, no, no, I'm second wife energy. Like I and I just kind of love it. Like cause she's like, I know what I want and what is going to happen for me. And like my energy is second wife and I'm fine with that and I'm waiting for that. And I'm like, okay. That's so good. I actually just thought of something of why I feel like I've never, I've never double dipped with a friend. And I think it's cause I'm too competitive. No, not competitive, but prideful. Cause my thing is I never want to be with a man who didn't choose me the first time. Yeah. And that is what you should remember. Be like at the end of the day, he saw you and the friend and picked the friend. You weren't like whatever it perhaps you weren't chosen first. Don't be chosen second. Like, and I think that's why like, even if I like thought I got was cute and he started hitting on my friend, I'd be like, not the one for me. Move on. My competitiveness has gotten me in some pickles. Indeed. Yeah. Cause you want to like show off in a way and then you're like, I'm like, you don't like me. Just wait on it. Wait on it. And then I'm like, uh, mom. I know I didn't like me cause he's fucking crazy. Can you help me get out of something really quick? Hey, I'm locked up. No, it's so crazy. Too over for Drater. In so many words, I'm always calling my mom every day asking, can you help me get out of something? Like that is the general vibe. I'm like, can you help me with this? It is. I do like, I don't want to annoy my husband and my mom with too many scenarios, but then you know, when you probably should have just called them in the beginning, but you're like, I'll deal with it by myself. Sorry, I was just looking up because I couldn't think of what was the, what was the baloney company that was like really. And it was Oscar Meyer. I couldn't think of the name. Oh, that you loved. That was really annoying me because I'm pretty sure I have a memory of my childhood, of me singing, of going on the Oscar Meyer Wiener car. If I was an Oscar Meyer Wiener. That is what a Julie want to be. And if it was an Oscar Meyer Wiener, everyone would be in love with me. I just, I was, it was annoying me the entire. You singing a hot dog song? No one would have guessed that would happen on this pot. Everyone's mind is blown. I need to call my mom after because I don't know what this memory is. I'm having a memory and why were we in a parking lot and why was the Oscar Meyer Wiener truck there? And why do I kind of remember wearing ballet flats? I have another question for you. I love all animals. Like I know I'm a cat person, but I also like dogs sometimes. When I'm walking past the dog park, I'm walking up to the fence to look at the dogs in the dog park. But then recently I started to be like, am I fucking creepy that I don't have a dog? And I'm just looking at other people's dog. I would say if it was a playground, yeah, dog park. No, but like when you're just like watching other people's dogs and like you feel weird when you do it every day. That is weird. I live right by a dog park and every time I have to, I, there's this little dash on him. Kevin who I love. I want to steal. No, I don't think that's weird. I don't think that's weird. But like if you brought your dog to dog park and a couple keeps coming and like trying to get attention from your dog, I'd be like, get your own fucking dog. I think you'd be like trying to sex traffic me. Yeah. Um, did you see Billy Eilish said that you can't love, claim to love animals and then eat them? Why are you trying to ruin my weekend? Because I was just wondering as an avid animal lover as you love animals so much. Eat tofu bitch. Oh, you love animals. Sorry I hate vegetables. You said you couldn't be fake in the beginning of the pod. You said you couldn't fake it. I love when you call me out. It makes me so happy. Um, no, she's right because I, you think she's right. And it's like when I eat meat, I have, I lie to myself and I like eating meat. Like not like, I like when it's like a hot dog, like I can't look at it and be like, that's the head of a pig. Like I like to lie to myself. Like I'm eating brief jerky and I'm like, this is just a little lollipop of protein. So if when something looks too like that's the leg of it, yeah, I can't. And look, I wish every animal would live. I wish every animal would live. I haven't thought about this. So I don't have a formal PR statement. So us weekly. I just kind of feel like he does going to come for you. What are you going to say? I just kind of feel like I'm a human and to survive for millions of years, humans have eaten animals and there is no, if you do a no animal diet for the rest of your life, I would assume that you have to supplement those vitamins with something else. And if not, I would assume that that could be really like detrimental to your health. Like, yeah. Well, it is like if you're iron deficient. I feel like eating a steak once in a while is good, but I also it is a privilege to not be able to eat meat and like, yeah, all your nutrients like to be able to be like, well, I go to Erwan and I get the tofu salad, whatever, because if you're just eating chips every day, like you're not going to make it. I'm not trying to alienate the vegetarians. I can just say that I have never thought about being a vegetarian for even a second. I just, I wish we could be more organized about it. Like, I would so be down if we were like every Monday, no one eats meat and it saves this many animals lives. Like I'm more about like, how do we make it the least wasteful as possible? So where we're not just like killing animals, we don't need to kill. Okay, I can support that. The vegetarians have to be more organized and because now it's like one offs. I don't know, maybe they do have meetings without me. They need to have a PR strategy meeting for sure. Their PR is bad. It's all over the place. They're PR's. It's a damn ass. We need a consensus, like a short statement of what is their thesis? Like what are they standing for? And it's giving like how feminist everyone thinks, like everyone used to think feminists were just like angry women who wear cut off shirts. You know one thing that really. What do lumberjacks wear? Overalls. Yeah, overall. You know one thing that really grinds my gears is when people are like, she's a bad feminist. Like I just feel like it's another thing for women to be mad at women about. It's like, okay, now she can't even be a girl good enough. Well, you know what someone was talking about on TikTok, which makes it real that men are in the defensive. They just have to defend their power where we have to be in the offensive. And when we're fighting each other as women, plus we're trying to take it so complicated because we're like, you're not even fighting the right way. And we're men just have to protect. Yeah, have to protect what they have. So us trying to gain is so much more complicated and feminism PR is fucking horrible. Yeah, because yeah, they all think that we just like lumberjacks and we hate men when we just want equal opportunity. And we hate. Man. Oh, God, I'm just so mad that I didn't spell baloney. Wait, this is the thing though, learning how to take a L will make you more successful in the long run. And that's my mental health moment of the week. Oscar Meyer Baloney B O L O G N A. Yeah, that's the time version that I gave. I gave you two versions both correct with the like in a sentence and you still were like, no. I gave you the pronunciation. I'm just not so. You're trying to find an article while B a L O N E Y is the common spelling for the pronunciation. Which is Asian and the sling. You're not winning this argument. I'm just looking me look better every time you fight it. You're proving my point. Honestly, I've said that in so many relationships, Hannah. Oh my God, I've never heard that back to myself. Oh my God, I've never heard that back to myself. I've actually never said that line before. Was it good? Yes, that hits. I'm so proud of myself. You're proving my point. Oh, honey. I actually heard you say that you're proving my point. I needed that. Hannah's heard me fight through walls before and that's actually like my favorite lore ever. Okay, that's all the time. Page was a fight through wall and at first I was like, I shouldn't hear this. Then I realized, oh, I need to be in on this. Then I saw a text here like, no, you're not crazy. That was valid. I literally watched him gaslighter and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, stay with your point. You were right. Don't turn. Stay with your gut on that. That is every woman's dream to be in a fight with her man and have her friend on speed dial. Basically, we were in a boxing ring. You were my coach. I was coming back. You cut me. Cut me. You were pouring water in my mouth, fixing up my cuts and being like, get back in there. Your point was valid. That was the ultimate friendship because at first I felt like it was like listening to two people have sex. I was like, I feel wrong about this. Then I was like, she needs me. This is an opportunity. It's so funny because in the beginning I was nervous. I was like embarrassed. I was like, Hannah, I can probably hear this and then 10 minutes into it. I was like, and I hope she's listening because I feel like that was a great line that she would appreciate. Also, my best friend, nothing feels better than like hearing your best friend stand up for herself. Yeah, you're like, fuck yeah. Yeah, I'm like, go harder. Go harder. And then you want to jump in. I'm like, tag me bitch. Tag me. Anyway, um, I also have to apologize to the Academy for one last thing. I've been doing this thing back to my headphones where like, you ever go on a zoom and like you can't hear the person and you're like, I can't hear you and you get all frustrated and you're like, they're clearly wrong. And then you realize the whole time that your thing wasn't plugged in and then you have to pretend that you like clicked something crazy to make it work. I do that too often to people. I've done it to you. Raise your hand if you've been personally victimized on a zoom by me being like, can't hear you fix your side. Yeah, I've been personally victimized on a zoom more than once in one day by you. Like, Wait, why are zooms so chaotic? I feel like I've gotten on a zoom and you've been like, no makeup today. Got it. Okay. I walked into two separate meetings today, one in person, one not. And I literally was L woods being like, I wasn't aware there was an assignment. Actually, I'm unprepared for both of these things. That just happened to me. I went on meeting and they go, did you send, did you get the slides? And I said, no, I'm not going to. No, normalize being like, no, fuck, I didn't look at it. But then normalize being like, I didn't get the slides. Let's reschedule this. I'm not about to just do this meeting to do this meeting if I didn't have the proper information. And sometimes more love today's episode, you don't have the proper information. Sometimes you were not nobody prepped. No one prepped you properly. We, the L woods scene when she goes, did you read the book? And she's like, I actually was unaware that there was an assignment. That scene shaped the, my young adulthood. I wake up in the middle of the night sweating thinking that I forgot there was summer reading and all summer I didn't read. And then I showed up on the first day to a British woman being like, and she gets kicked out of class. I was like, Dev, I was so hurt in that moment for her. And, but also why didn't she have a computer? Like everyone else had a computer that felt like she did the outfits. Like how much could she do? She put all her money in her vintage. She brought a moving truck to Harvard. Okay. Okay. We love you guys. Thank you for giggling with us. We'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye.