Trinidad Chambliss is BACK?! | Super Bowl and Offseaon Outlook | Pebble Beach | Guys Being Dudes #3
74 min
•Feb 13, 20262 months agoSummary
The hosts discuss Trinidad Chambliss's successful appeal to return for another college football season, analyze Super Bowl LVIII between Seattle and New England, evaluate NFL team performance and cap situations, and preview the Pebble Beach golf tournament and Winter Olympics.
Insights
- NIL deals are fundamentally changing player decision-making, with athletes now choosing to stay in college for financial security rather than rushing to the NFL draft
- Complete team construction across offense, defense, and special teams is more predictive of playoff success than individual star power
- Cap space flexibility is critical for sustained success, but teams must balance immediate needs with long-term roster building through strategic contract restructuring
- First-year head coaches with defensive backgrounds paired with offensive coordinators can rapidly elevate struggling franchises when given premium draft picks and cap space
- Weather conditions and course difficulty at signature events like Pebble Beach create opportunities for lesser-known players to compete at elite levels
Trends
NIL compensation enabling college athletes to defer NFL entry and pursue additional development or championshipsDefensive-minded head coaches becoming preferred hires for rebuilding franchises with young quarterbacksTeams prioritizing special teams investment as a competitive differentiator in playoff footballQuarterback evaluation extending beyond traditional metrics to include leadership, composure, and locker room presenceCap space manipulation through restructures and deferrals becoming standard practice for contending teamsYounger, more casual fan bases driving higher attendance at signature golf events with relaxed etiquette enforcementUndersized quarterbacks from non-Power Five programs gaining draft consideration through strong playoff performancesRunning back committee approaches protecting elite talents from injury while maintaining production levels
Topics
NCAA Eligibility Appeals and Transfer Portal StrategyNIL (Name, Image, Likeness) Impact on Player RetentionNFL Salary Cap Management and Contract RestructuringSuper Bowl LVIII Game Analysis and Team ConstructionQuarterback Evaluation Metrics and Development TimelinesDefensive Coordinator Hiring Trends in NFLSpecial Teams Investment ROI in Professional FootballCollege Football Playoff Performance PredictorsPGA Tour Signature Events and Course DifficultyWinter Olympics Coverage and Emerging SportsNFL Draft Prospect Evaluation from Non-Power Five SchoolsTeam Cap Space Rankings and Free Agency StrategyCoaching Staff Continuity and Offensive Coordinator ImpactFan Behavior and Sports Event Etiquette StandardsInjury Recovery and Return-to-Play Decision Making
Companies
New England Patriots
Discussed as Super Bowl LVIII loser; analyzed offensive struggles and defensive performance against Seattle
Seattle Seahawks
Super Bowl LVIII champions; analyzed complete team construction, special teams investment, and cap space management
Kansas City Chiefs
Identified as biggest NFL disappointment; discussed cap space crisis and inability to maintain contention despite talent
Detroit Lions
Discussed as NFC disappointment after losing both coordinators; analyzed coaching staff impact on performance
Chicago Bears
Highlighted as biggest NFL improvement; analyzed Caleb Williams' development and Ben Johnson's offensive impact
Jacksonville Jaguars
Discussed as team taking big leap; analyzed Trevor Lawrence's performance and defensive improvements
Carolina Panthers
Analyzed as NFC South winner and playoff competitor despite preseason expectations
Tennessee Titans
Discussed as team with cap space and young talent; analyzed Cam Ward and Jalin Hyatt potential
Miami Dolphins
Discussed cap space challenges and organizational restructuring under new leadership
New York Jets
Mentioned in context of Robert Sala's coaching history and defensive coordinator hiring
Dallas Cowboys
Discussed cap space constraints and George Pickens free agency situation
Minnesota Vikings
Analyzed cap space issues and J.J. McCarthy quarterback evaluation challenges
New Orleans Saints
Discussed as team with severe cap space problems from past contract restructures
Los Angeles Rams
Mentioned as playoff opponent that nearly lost to Carolina Panthers
New England Patriots
Discussed as employer of Patriots defensive coach and special teams coordinator
People
Trinidad Chambliss
College quarterback who successfully appealed to return to Ole Miss for additional eligibility and NIL compensation
Patrick Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs quarterback discussed regarding injury and team's cap space management challenges
Kenneth Walker III
Seattle Seahawks running back who won Super Bowl LVIII MVP; discussed contract negotiations and performance
Sam Darnold
Seattle Seahawks quarterback analyzed for Super Bowl performance and game management
Caleb Williams
Chicago Bears quarterback highlighted for dramatic improvement and playoff performance in first season
Ben Johnson
Chicago Bears offensive coordinator credited with Caleb Williams' development and team's offensive success
J.J. McCarthy
Minnesota Vikings quarterback discussed regarding injury concerns and long-term viability as franchise QB
Trevor Lawrence
Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback analyzed for improved performance and contract justification
Cam Ward
Tennessee Titans quarterback discussed as young talent with significant upside and leadership qualities
Robert Sala
Tennessee Titans head coach hired to develop Cam Ward; discussed defensive background and San Francisco experience
Dabo Swinney
Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator hired to support Cam Ward's development
Lindsey Vonn
Olympic skier discussed for competing in Winter Olympics with torn ACL and subsequent injury
Ryo Hattori
Japanese golfer competing at Pebble Beach; discussed for consistent performance and pre-putt ritual
Akshay Bathia
Golfer leading Pebble Beach tournament; discussed as player to watch for weekend performance
Scottie Scheffler
Top golfer discussed for back-to-back poor first rounds at signature events
Hideki Matsuyama
Golfer discussed for heckling incident and playoff loss at Waste Management tournament
Collin Morikawa
Golfer who won Waste Management tournament; discussed for strong finish and momentum
George Pickens
Wide receiver discussed as potential free agent target for Tennessee Titans
Chris Paul
NBA player announced retirement after being released by Toronto Raptors
Pat McAfee
Media personality discussed for genuine personality and high-energy presence at Super Bowl media events
Quotes
"These guys deserve to be where they're at they're there for a reason like you meet the darius butler and the gumpys and the pat mcafee's and the taylor lewans and the will comptons and it's like no these guys deserve everything they're doing because like yes dude they're for the people"
Andre (host)•Early in episode
"When you're getting $5 million a year to stay in college, you can make choices like, I don't want to play for the Jets. So honestly, I'll just go back to Oregon"
Bobby (host)•Chambliss discussion
"It wasn't so long ago people were fighting to like skip college it's like how can I just go pro how can I go straight out of high school and it shows you it's just funny like how times change right"
Bobby (host)•NIL impact discussion
"Defense wins championships. You know, you see that all over the place"
Wingo (host)•Chicago Bears analysis
"If you have a way to prove yourself and back it up with details and back it up with whatever knowledge you might have, past cases, future cases, you have an opportunity to pass"
Wingo (host)•NCAA eligibility discussion
Full Transcript
Gentlemen, start your engine! What better way to start this intro with a little all right, Bobby? How we feeling post-Super Bowl, boys? I mean, unfortunately, our boy Derek wasn't able to join us out there, but he'll be out there next year. Yeah, for sure, man. I almost, I was so disappointed I couldn't be there. You guys look like you're having a time of your life. And, you know, I didn't expect it, honestly, you guys to be surrounded by so many of the guys that you were. I mean, I was blown away with the pictures from Bobby and you guys in the group chat. I'm sitting there like on my couch. I'm just like, oh, man. But I'll be there next year, though. So I'm excited for you. Facts, facts. Bobby, how are we feeling? Yeah, it was the funniest thing. Every time we did something else, like Wingo would see it on Instagram or Wingo would see it. I text him. He'd be like, damn, I should be there. What the hell? Like you could tell he really realized like, yeah, this is a movie. I can't believe I didn't go. It was really a movie. I mean, honestly, we didn't really know what to expect. Right. First media row experience. So you're just kind of kind of figuring it out as you go. Kind of created a makeshift chat. When we get there, we're sharing a space with some guys. But I mean, look at this. Look at this. It came out sweet. You know, it brought the Miami vibes. There's pooch right there. Dude, the dog was awesome. Whiskey? Whiskey was awesome. Shout out to our boy, Jacob Morton. It was dope, though. It was dope. Had a good lineup of guests. We got a ton of content. I think we recorded like 15 different pods, man on the street type stuff. Dave got an interview with McAfee, which was dope. By the way, McAfee's the man, bro. Like most genuine dude ever. he's he's somebody that you can tell that no he doesn't have a a switch yes he is just non-stop 24 7 go go go and energy i don't know if he he has 10 cups of coffee or you know he's doing doing something else but that guy is definitely you know full go and and he's exciting to definitely be around and watch yeah yeah for sure it's like i don't know what's in that cup but something's in that cup that's what i was telling the boys the biggest takeaway from the weekend we all talked about this out there andre is like um people are like deserve to be where they're at they're there for a reason like you meet the darius butler and the gumpys and the pat mcafee's and the the uh taylor lewans and the will comptons and it's like no these guys deserve everything they're doing because like yes dude they're for the people dude they just hang out they just they don't know any different they they really don't know they're doing that like they're incredible and they deserve it all and it was awesome some guys being dudes yeah literally 100 which is why Guys being dudes, we'll have the stage next to McAfee next year, and Bobby's going to be doing interviews after the live show, you know, chopping it up with the boys. Oh, man. No, it was sick, though. But let's get into this week. We got a rundown of a bunch of things kind of going over. We'll briefly kind of go over the Super Bowl. Some news yesterday with Chambliss broke, right, that he's coming back. Huge, huge. So we'll kick off the show with that. Then we got a little Pebble Beach talk over there in the West Coast. We'll talk a little bit about some of the disappointments this year in the NFL, some of the improved teams in the NFL and kind of what teams we might see next year that might take a big leap. Right. And then we'll talk a little Winter Olympics. And then, of course, our due to the week and due moment of the week. But let's kick it off with Chambliss. Let's start there. Right. That was some big breaking news yesterday. We I think we talked about it like two, three weeks ago. Right. Like, where was he going to end up in this process? Here we are. I don't know if you saw some of the court clips of him talking in there. It felt like it was going to happen when you kind of saw the judge asking those questions. Yeah, so honestly, I knew it was going to kind of happen. And you also look at it, too. I almost didn't see him on any of the mock drafts or things like that. I wasn't invited to combine. So I think those guys knew in the back of their mind that he was going to be invited back to play another year. You look at a guy like Chambliss, right, going from D2 National Championship, doing what he did this year with Ole Miss, and then being able to have that next opportunity, right? That's a guy who, you know, he really does have the experience, right? Because he's played a lot of ball. He's an older player. Now he has the opportunity to benefit off NIL. And then just keep his experience going. You know, I was watching him in those college playoff games. He is calm. He's collected. He's a leader. You know, he knew exactly what he was doing. You know, nowadays in college football, they have the mics and the helmets. And he's commanding. And that's what you look for in a quarterback. You know, like I've been saying, you know, he's going to be a top quarterback in next year's draft. And I don't look at it. I look at it like almost a Dante Moore and Trinidad Jamlas is going to be next year. And, you know, when it comes down to it, people do have the question marks about his height, you know, being 6'1". But for a guy that can move on his feet, he has a lot of zip in the ball and he's confident in himself. And that's what you want in a quarterback. And I think he's going to be very successful. Yeah. I mean, obviously, in the world of NAL now, it makes you consider coming back. Before, it wasn't even a thought. Right. You're like, I'm trying to get to the NFL as fast as possible. Asante Moore, he came out and said something. He was like, oh, my decision had nothing to do with NIL. I'll tell you. Like, yes, he might have wanted to do some other things. It's not going to get better than, you know, project the number two overall pick. But, you know, it definitely has to be in the back of your mind, you know, when you're getting, you know, a $3, $4 million contract. And that's before anything else, before any marketing, before any other deals that you do. And that kind of money can set you up, you know, for life if you're able to have the right people in your corner to organize those things and take care of yourself. And there's so many different things that you can do with all that. And, you know, that can change lives right there before you even step foot on an NFL field. Yeah, absolutely. Bobby, what do you think as, you know, a guy like Chambliss, is that the right decision considering this class may not be one of the stronger classes? Maybe, you know, you got Fernando there at the top and then there's just kind of a drop off a little bit there, right? Is it, in your opinion, the right decision for a guy like Chambliss to come back? Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's funny to say, but even with the Dante Moore stuff, I think that when you're getting $5 million a year to stay in college, you can make choices like, I don't want to play for the Jets. So honestly, I'll just go back to Oregon, and I know that's funny, but it's true. You have those choices now. You can truly make them because it's not going to burden you financially. And I think with Chambliss, he probably has some unfinished business, right? He hasn't played at that level before. He was a little dinged up, and then he got to Ole Miss, and they, you know, they made a run and Kiffin left them midway through the season. So I'm sure like in a lot of ways, he just feels like, you know, he wants to run it back and get a full, you know, runway into a last hoorah. And you can always respect that. And, you know, he's an undersized guy. He came from a small school. So like maybe he wants to prove more to like maybe you go from a second round prospect to, you know, a top 15 prospect. So I definitely understand that. I know it was a light quarterback class, but, you know, I don't think people consider that as much as like experts and fans do. I think guys make, you know, their personal decisions and, you know, if they want to compete and they want to win a championship. And I know Wingo always talks about this and leave a legacy somewhere your kids can go back to. And, you know, that you can tell your kids about, you know, that a lot of stuff goes into it. It's not just, you know, but you could be drafted top 10. It's like, yeah, but I'm like, I'm having fun. I'm making money. It's not like I'm broke anymore. And you know, we could possibly go win a championship and I can have a real legacy here. So like, and I think listening to the interviews yesterday, I was kind of hard on Chambliss through the process a little bit. I know Wingo was a big advocate for him. I imagine that the NIL agent. Anyway, wait, Wingo, was you involved? I know nothing. But when the judges were like asking him, like, why do you think you need another year? And he was like, I mean, it's in the rules. Like people get four years of eligibility. I was like, you know, that checks out. I mean, how can you not give the kid another year? I mean, if he hasn't played his four years of eligibility or four years or whatever, then yeah. And, you know, it looked like it was over. Like, I feel like they almost made an announcement in the morning. Like, basically, like, this is over. Like, he's been denied all three ways. Like, this is not going to happen. And then they reversed it. So good for him, man. And good for Ole Miss. Yeah, I actually want to touch on that, right, to provide a little clarity and maybe education on this whole process. So Wingo, tell us, like, he did get denied, right? So what was really, like, the biggest difference as to it was no, no, no, and then all of a sudden it's a yes, right? So what did they see to say, hey, you know, actually he can't play again? Yeah, so there's so many different clauses and different, you know, ways that you can go about it, whether or not, you know, it's medical, it's, you know, just not playing in, you know, a smaller division. There's so many different angles and things that you can go. Obviously him getting denied, denied, denied. You just have to find that one loophole. And this is almost for everything in college football. There is a loophole for everything. So he was able to do that. And, you know, I think the biggest thing is a lot of people had, you know, somewhat of sympathy for him because it's like this is a kid that has been through it, right? You look back at his journey, you know, in D2 winning a national championship. Like, he's been through the grind. And he's one of those guys that I look at now in college football that loves the game, right? He loves going out there and playing football, and he shows that. And I think with him sitting in that courtroom, you know, with all those people in there, they felt that about him. They were like, you know, this kid isn't just, you know, out here chasing the money. Because I'll tell you what, there is 9,000 million people that are trying to get an extra year of eligibility. Whether or not they play, they start, they just play special teams, they're trying to get another one just because of NIL. That kid is coming back to win a national championship. He is coming back to lead his team and to be around Pete Golding, someone who's waited a long time for this opportunity that he has, and they're just definitely going to be a team to watch next year. Yeah. I mean, Tommy Cascianos was one of those guys that also – I don't know what really the biggest difference was between their two situations, but Tommy was denied, and it looked like he never even had a chance. Yeah. Chambliss, I guess, what was it really? Was it because he played D2, so that was kind of like the argument as to why he still had some eligibility or what? Yeah, so that's the biggest argument now. I know it came out not too long ago about, you know, if you're playing in JUCO or not in Division I, you still have, you know, certain years of eligibility. If I'm being completely honest, you know, there's a lot of rules in the NCAA right now that are not very strict. Like they're not, you know, this is the book, this is how it's supposed to be. You know, there's, even with NIL, with everything, like there's not a specific way to do anything. So I honestly have a belief of, If you have a way to prove yourself and back it up with details and back it up with whatever knowledge you might have, past cases, future cases, you have an opportunity to pass. I look at it now. I have a buddy of mine who's trying to get – he's actually in pre-draft training, and he's talking with the schools to try and come back to get an extra year of eligibility. And then he's trying to find different ways and text message receipts and all these different things from trainers and doctors and imaging. And those things work. If you have the right documents and all these things to go back and do that, the first person might say no. The second person might say no. But eventually they're going to look at you and be like, okay. But that does now, when I think about it, open up the door for other people, which is almost sad to see because Trinidad, he went through a long process to get this done. And now you're going to need some people to say, oh, well, I can do what he can do. And they're going to try and egg on that same situation. So it's a little bit up in the air, and I'm curious to see where it goes. But it definitely opened up the door for other people to try and do the same thing. Yeah. absolutely Bobby you got any final thoughts on the shambles yeah just I'll sit there listening to Wingo talk about how these kids are fighting so hard to get back to school and it's funny because it's like it wasn't so long ago people were fighting to like skip college it's like how can I just go pro how can I go straight out of high school and it shows you it's just funny like how times change right so like dude it was it wasn't long ago at all people were like man I shouldn't have to play high college if I'm ready for the NFL if I'm have the ability and I'm projected the first round pick why am i wasting my time and of course these kids just needed money and i don't blame them like when you're struggling or your your family's struggling and you know that that that break or you know the generational wealth is right around the corner i get that so it's funny and it's crazy to see it's good right for the athlete to know that like these kids are getting compensated now so like they're fine with staying in school they're fine with getting education i mean uh so that part's cool but it is it is wild to think like it wasn't long ago kids were begging to like jump college yeah and now kids are begging to stay in college so and it's pretty interesting it's funny because i was actually sitting on the sidelines with michael urban at one of the saint thomas games and we were talking about nil and you know he was going crazy about it he was like if i was in college football right now i would stay in it for eight years he's like these kids are idiots and i'm like i i'm with you i believe you look at the guy from miami that was in there for eight years right two master's degrees you know he's He's set for life because he was making NIL. He now works as a coach for the Patriots. And some of these things, these guys got to take advantage of. For sure. But also realize if you enter that portal and don't get picked up, now you don't have a degree, you don't have a school, and you're not playing football. Yeah, and then there's the injury factor too, right? Like you got injured and all of a sudden that draft stock that you were kind of holding on to or maybe even able to elevate a little bit, you get hurt, you're not guaranteed anything after that, right? Yeah, you're not guaranteed. But you're also not guaranteed if you get to the NFL, right? we've seen so many cases where guys are in the league for one year and up, he's a bus up to next guy up. And that happens. So, you know, there's a lot of things to weigh in to make those decisions. Yeah. But you feel a little bit more confident when you know, you're getting a little bit of a paycheck, you know, in the process. So that definitely helps. That's what I was going to kind of add on Chambliss and not to say anything like he's obviously a baller, like he might have a great career, but like he has an undersized kid and he's came from a, he's came a weird, you know, unorthodox route to the NFL. And like, you know, there might be a chance that doesn't pan out for him. So like, by all means, get all the money you can now, take care of yourself and get all the development you possibly can. So you have your best chance when you do get to the league. So that's the other thing about it. Yeah. You're not guaranteed. The league isn't guaranteed once you get there. So like to say that you're going to make this money or that money, whatever, most of the money don't come to your second contract. And that's where Wingo comes in. You know what I mean? So it's like, it sounds great, but also like, you know, you're not guaranteed a successful 10 year career. So. Yeah, no, a hundred percent. But I mean, we're going to see a lot of this moving forward, right? Like this is just one of many situations. Chambliss, obviously big name, quarterback position, coming off a good run with Ole Miss in the playoffs. So I think to your point, we're going to see them again in the playoffs and we're going to see what Chambliss looks like, hopefully, assuming nothing happens, but late in the season next year. Heck yeah. Hell yeah. But let's talk a little bit about this Super Bowl this past weekend. A lot of people calling it a boring game. Not a lot of excitement behind it. And as Finns fans, you know, it's always nice to hate watch a little bit against the Pats. So you don't really care how boring that game was. But it was pretty much how everyone assumed it to go. Right. Like Seattle was dominant pretty much throughout the course of the whole playoffs, led by their defense running game. You know, boy, Kenneth Walker had a great game. No touchdowns, but was pretty much dominant the whole game. Every time you touch the ball, it was for positive gain. Right. So I think the game went pretty much as everyone expected. Right. Yep. And I think, you know, obviously people say that it was a boring first half. I look at it of almost a different perspective. You know, playing defense, it's like, yeah, these guys are after it. But no, I mean, you know, it was exciting to see, you know, how much of a complete team Seattle is. And I'm not just saying from the Super Bowl, but, you know, throughout the entire season, you know, I think they're a full complete team. The Patriots just, you know, didn't have it. And when you talk about momentum is a key factor in the game, a hundred percent, you can see, you can see it on Drake May's face. You can see it on, you know, I know the Patriots, Patriots defense was still hanging in there and doing things, but the momentum factor was a huge aspect. And, you know, with what Kenneth Walker was able to do, I don't think Sam Darnold played, you know, Sam Darnold football. You know, he was missing a lot of throws to JSN behind or in front of him. He could have played a lot better. But when you have a complete team like that on offense, defense, special teams, you know, Seattle pays the most out of anybody in the NFL for their special teams. I think it's around $9 million, right? And their kicker went five for five. You know, that was big time for them to be able to do that. and then obviously have a defensive score as well. Kenneth Walker, you know, you talk about him, how he was able to elevate his game after Charbonnet getting injured, right? All season long, you're splitting reps, right? But, you know, you're also protecting your body. He's also finding a way to not be banged up because, you know, running backs don't last very long in this league. And for Kenneth Walker to do what he did without scoring a touchdown because it got called back, but I think it was 160 yards, total scrimmage. That guy's a beast, you know, MVP. He deserved it. Yeah, absolutely. Bobby, what are your thoughts? yeah I think Kenneth Walker definitely deserved the MVP but there was a second there I was wondering if Jason Myers might get the first kicker MVP ever uh because he was putting in that work but uh like Wingo said it was kind of like a battle of uh who could last the longest and the reality of it is Seattle just kept showing up right and the Patriots held in there both defenses showed up but it was just Seattle kept coming back kept coming back kept coming back and finally that wall fell and they were never going to let up they kept making the plays for 60 minutes and they just kind of pulled away at the end. And yeah. And also I want to say this. We have over 100 people watching across all platforms. If you're watching anywhere other than YouTube, always make sure. We appreciate you watching anywhere, but always make sure to come over to YouTube, subscribe to the dot bar, subscribe to guys being dudes, subscribe to stay tranquilo. Always show the guys love. It helps more than you ever know. With that being said, back into Super Bowl talk. I love it. I love it. Nice plug in there. Way to stay on top of the numbers so we know what's going on because sometimes I'm like, who the hell is watching this right now? So awesome. Joe and David are in a group chat right now, like orchestrating the whole thing. I love it. The boys behind the scenes. I love it. It's a team effort out here, boys. But yeah, I think Bobby, you nailed it, right? Like Myers all year long has been great, right? Honestly, on my fantasy team, he was my MVP. I remember, what game was it? It was one of these late season playoffs games because it was already fantasy playoffs. But it gave me 26 points in that game. I think they had 15 points in that game. It was all field goals, 250 yarders, a couple 40. He was great all season long. And there was a point where it was like, is he going to be the MVP? Kind of the way the game was going. There was no touchdown scored at that point. He was pretty much the only points. But yeah, to your point, they invested in the special teams. Special teams was great. Shahid had a couple returns also throughout the course of the year. They just did everything right in every facet of the game. And, you know, a guy like Sam Darnold, very talented guy, but that's what happens when you have a good team. Sometimes you're getting picked up the slack in other parts of your game, right? Whether that the running game defense special teams but that what a good team does Yeah And it definitely when I when I look at the game as a whole for Seattle right you talking about getting to second and third and manageable right even though you know say on first i said you know sam darnold didn play to his full potential he was missing a lot of throws but when you had kenneth walker doing what he was doing right getting those five six yards on first you're able to do certain things it opens up your playbook um to know whether or not you're taking a shot or whether or not you're doing something different so that you know you do have an opportunity on third down to continuously just keep marching down the field um and also that's just running the clock not non-stop and having these long drives tiring out defenses that's exactly what you got to do and i think that was their plan going in the game yeah they they dominated shout out the seahawks great dub for the boys over there in seattle it's a great city they seem like they love to to party over there and uh just have a good time right it's a it's an from what i hear i've never been to seattle game but i heard it's electric over there for game day i forget what game it was but like a couple years ago nighttime prime game crowd was electric it got so crazy in there, it triggered an earthquake in the stadium, like a two point something magnitude earthquake. So those guys are rocking over there. Miami would never. Not even at our loudest, bro. We couldn't even get close. But yeah, no, sick to see Seattle win. But yeah, let's touch on a little bit of like end of year recap, right? Like what teams do we think did well this year, maybe exceeded expectations? What teams were disappointed? And then like, who are we excited to see next year, right? So I guess let's kick it off. Who were the biggest disappointments this year? I know we have some preset graphics, but we can open up the dialogue a little bit. But I know we have a consensus as to who we think here. Yeah, I think my biggest upsetting is 100% the Kansas City Chiefs. And I say this because this is more on the public. Because no matter what the Kansas City Chiefs were doing, playing terrible, like doing everything the wrong way, the public was still all on them. Oh, they're going to come back and do this. Oh, 100%. You know, they're going to come back and still win the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes this and that. And then Patrick Mahomes gets hurt. And we're still talking about, you know, their weapons and this and that. Just let it go. They're not going to have it this year. This is not the year. Just finally just kind of push them to the side a little bit. So, you know, it definitely was disappointing because of all the talent that they do have. You know, I know we'll talk about it a little bit later, but you talk about their cap space, right? Being over, you know, $60 to $90 million in their cap space. Like, what are you going to do? You have all these weapons. You have all these people on your team that are top players, but you're not getting it done. So this is a time where you need to take a step back, go talk upstairs, figure out what we're going to do contract-wise and how we're going to end up winning football games. And hopefully Patrick Mahomes can come back healthy. I mean, I get it. You can't really ever count out Mahomes and Andy Reid and the Chiefs. When they were, what was it, like 6-9 or some shit like that, I'm like, they're going to find the way to get in. We've seen this before. It's like Alabama in college football. Yeah, exactly. But the reality is like that team just wasn't good enough all year. Right. Like they would keep themselves in games or defense is always like especially lately has kind of been their backbone. And then Mahomes just does enough late in games. But they weren't winning those games anymore like that. Right. Like they would be close, but just not enough firepower around Mahomes to really take them to that to that next level. So any times the Chiefs don't make the playoffs, I feel like they're always going to be that disappointment. Right. and to your point like the cap which we'll touch on in a little bit they're in a sticky situation over there sticky situation but bobby how about how about in the nfc who's the team we got in the in the nfc biggest disappointment oh let me think honestly i was going back to the afc you threw me off there nfc tell me i really i i really don't know to me it's got to be the colts i mean they started out so hot they freaking slapped the dolphins around week one they're on this like They're like, nothing can stop them. And then they start losing. And everybody was like, why are we rooting for the Colts? When we're trying to get into playoff scenarios, why are we rooting for the Colts to lose? Because they keep losing. I mean, yeah. Obviously, Daniel Jones got hurt by the end, but they fell off completely. They lost like six straight, didn't make the playoffs. For me, it's got to be the Colts just because they did start so hot and had such a head start on the rest of the field. And to still miss the playoffs somehow is insane. Yeah, I mean, I think when you look at preseason expectations, Colts were not that team that you thought it was like holy shit this team is the one exceeding expectations this year right because they're eight I think they were eight and one right uh at one point in the season you're like holy shit number one in the AFC like are they going to be the top dog Daniel Jones looks legit then obviously Daniel Jones gets hurt but even before DJ got hurt they were already kind of dwindling down obviously Jonathan Taylor was having a really good year he kind of cooled off teams just started figuring out how to how to beat them so if you look at from I'm like mid-season, I would say they're definitely the biggest disappointment considering the start that they had. But if you look at it preseason, it's probably about what they were expected to do this year. They just started off so damn hot. Yeah. I think their expectations before this season, you look at what they were able to accomplish, hell of a job. But then once they went on that run, it was like, oh, they're going to be something special. Shout out to Phillip Rivers for getting the five years of extra insurance for the family. got him what a dog yeah no it was tough yeah go for it bobby yeah since i dropped the ball earlier i'll pivot to the nfc now i'll take one because there's a few big ones and i'll leave some meat on the bones for the boys but uh i think first and foremost got to be detroit yeah i mean detroit is what you consider the modern day juggernaut and so we thought they lose both coordinators and they just turn into chopped cheese, right? So, like, for me, Detroit's got to be there. You know, Dan Campbell, you're on fraud alert. We're watching you now. So we're going to see what's going on with Detroit. Damn, fraud alert for our boy Campbell, dude. You can't lose both coordinators and everything fall apart. It just, you know, it's got to go back to the head coach now, especially when you see how Ben Johnson's doing. Yeah, yeah, but then you look at Aaron Glenn and it's probably not even an Aaron Glenn problem, though. But the Jets. But the Jets. Yeah, exactly. I agree. I do think like, you know, Lions, what, 13 win team last year. Then you finish last in the division. I mean, that division pretty stacked considered, you know, Minnesota, Chicago. And what else we got in that division? Packers. Packers. Yeah. Which you can make an argument. Packers disappointing season the way they started. They look like the juggernaut. Right. Like they look like they could be everybody and anybody. Obviously, Parsons gets hurt. That's it's going to that's going to derail a lot for your defense. When you watch those games for the Packers, almost every single play you see some way, somehow, Micah was involved. Whether or not it was rushing off the edge or chasing a guy down on the sideline, that guy is electric. So he's definitely going to come back after he just got that big payday. Definitely come back for vengeance. Hell yeah. All right. Well, let's talk a set of disappointments. Who are our biggest improvements on the NFL season? Teams that took a big leap this year. You can make the argument that those two teams in the Super Bowl are part of that discussion. But outside of that, who else do you think made some big improvements this year? I would say the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, I think, you know, Trevor Lawrence still isn't playing the highest caliber of football, but he's managing it. Right. And then you look at, you know, Jags is defense. They're doing a great job on defense. You know, they got a freaking boom stick at kicker for Cam Little. So I think they're definitely going to take advantage of that next year, you know, taking those those big shots. But I think they're starting to build a complete team. And that's what you need when you look at, you know, someone like Seattle was able to do what they do. And then they're getting a new stadium. You know, I know it's not going to be done until 2020. But that new stadium is going to be sick. I know they're all, they're pumped and excited for it. But I think the Jags was definitely something that I wasn't expecting. And, you know, I was really excited to see another team in Florida, you know, doing well. I feel like when teams in Florida are well, you know, it helps all of football. So hopefully the Jags can figure things out. Probably going to be the best team. Liam Cohen is doing a great job too. His little Duval. He's going to be a good one. He's legit. And I mean, you look at Etienne. He took a huge leap this year, right? He had a down year. Everyone was kind of counting him out. People wanted to kick the Jags over to London and send them overseas and be like, this team's done. We don't need them over here. But, bro, they look good. And I don't know. I thought Trevor Lawrence looked really good this year. I think people were kind of like, damn, they shouldn't have paid him. A lot of like that same Tua kind of conversation. But I watched a couple of those Jags games, and Trevor Lawrence made some big-time throws when you need them. He was Dylan, yeah. He was Dylan. He was hooping, and he's athletic, right, so he can use his legs when you need them. He's got everything, and if he can continue to piece that together and play well, I mean, shit, I think the Jags could sneak it. The atmosphere is great over there in Jacksonville, too, especially for those playoff games, the night games. It's nuts. Yeah, Trevor had me a little nervous sometimes, but he was able to get it done. you know I remember there was the one where he fumbled the ball and then picked it up and ran in the end zone it was like oh that's crazy but yeah you know definitely excited for them yeah Bobby who do you got biggest improvement to see I mean I think we're all in the same boat about Jacksonville for sure yeah Jacksonville is the clear obvious one I think another one I'll go a little off the beaten path here because of what I expected but I do think it's kind of we'll see how they follow it up, but I'll go with the Panthers. You know, obviously the NFC South is its own thing, but they did win that division, and obviously that goes back to disappointments a little bit. The Bucs, obviously very disappointed. But I think the Panthers, I mean, you go, I didn't think they were ready to compete at all, and I know it's the NFC South, but they did win the division, and then they did give the Rams a damn handful in the playoffs. So it wasn't like they just, it wasn't like they snuck in and they got their ass kicked. Like, they went toe-to-toe with the Rams and had every chance to even win that game. So I'll go with the Panthers. I like that. I like that. I think that's the game you have to go back to at the end of the day is the Rams playoff game. Right. What were they? Ten point dogs at home. Yeah. Like no one even gave him no one even gave him a damn chance. And here they are in the fourth quarter with a lead. Right. Yeah. Most people did it. But it was like, shit. OK, maybe these guys can't hang. Yeah. You can make the argument. The division sucks and all that. And they snuck in with all those like situational week 18, you know, crap, which, you know, any given week 18, I'll take that. day i mean but they made it in and and they hung around they hosted a home playoff game you know crowd was in it and to be 10 point dogs and basically have a chance to win uh you know a playoff game which arguably could have been a team that was in the super bowl right i mean they they could have uh you know beat seattle and that nfc championship game that was a back and forth game so i do like carolina but to me the biggest improvement is chicago bears like what we saw what ben johnson did over there caleb williams that fucking foot was out of control out of control like probably arguably one of the best playoff plays i've seen in a long time but considering what they were able to do i think they were a four-win team last year to then jump to what was it 12 wins this year uh it is impressive right so i i think they're gonna be another team to watch again this year a lot of like the pre-season or end of post-season sort of preseason discussions now. Are that like Caleb MVP next year? Bears winning the division can make a run for the Super Bowl. And based off the color of the Super Bowl graphics, it should be the Bears and Dolphins in the Super Bowl from what I'm speculating. Right, Bobby? Yeah. Bears, Dolphins, Super Bowl? Oh, for sure. You know, Dolphins definitely going to bounce back with zero cap room. I think I shocked him when I said Dolphins. $52 million dead tap to the quarterback. I was going to let you get your punchline in because it was clearly a joke. But, yeah, you actually got me wanting to go on a tangent about the Dolphins now. I'm not going to do that to the show. No, it's okay. Don't get me started. Oh, man. But, yeah, I mean, I do think – The Bears, maybe. Yeah, Bears. Bears definitely one of those teams. It is always interesting, though, first-year head coach. Can they replicate that in a second year, third year? Now you've got film on how they try to operate. But I do think they've got a good team over there. I don't know what their cap situation is or who's going to be able to return. But when Caleb's playing the way he played at the end of last year, I think they're going to be good. Yeah, I think Caleb built a lot of confidence in himself. And not only just that, I think the trust built so much with him and Ben Johnson throughout the entire season. Yes. I talked about it, you know, on one of the last shows. When I saw Caleb give that game ball to Ben Johnson, that was where it was like, okay, we're in this together. Yeah. Like, we're, you know, side by side. We're going to get an attack. And I think, you know, also just adding weapons. You know, they had guys like, you know, Romo Dunze. They had Colson Lovin that they drafted. They have DJ Moore. They have, you know, all these different pieces for Caleb to now not only be aggressive on the run game, but able to throw the ball up and know he's going to have receivers down there. So now it's just about adding those last few pieces with what they have in their cap. How can they renegotiate some contracts and then, you know, just go play football at the end of the day? So I think their defense was very good. Yes. Their defense was very good. And at the end of the day, defense wins championships. You know, you see that all over the place. So I think next year they're definitely going to be the team to beat. They were playing with fire a lot during the year. I mean, I don't know how many fourth quarter comebacks they had throughout the course of the season. So they got to be, you know, a little cautious when it comes to that next year. But, you know, I think when the Bears are good, it's also good for football as well. But, yeah, any other teams, right? I think we hit everything that we want to hit here. But we want to touch on the cap situation, right? A lot of teams are in prime spots. some teams are in some real real real crappy spots but we all kind of know the cap situation is kind of a little bit of a smoke and mirrors yeah obviously like money's money you gotta have the money but there's ways of manipulating things around put some things like as bonuses and can move money around to open up cap space right but let's talk about some of the teams that are in great cap situations and teams that are are in not so uh good cap situation so uh i don't know we got a graphic for this right yeah okay sweet so here you go you could see who who the top five teams there in cap situations and then you could see kind of the the bottom five the bottom of the barrel so let's yeah what do we want to kick it off with we want to deal with the guys that are in crappy situations the guys there that are in some good situations let's say we start with the crap uh go ahead and just the crap okay just go ahead and start with the crap the chiefs the chiefs are flat out screwed. I honestly just don't know what they're going to do, you know, with all the weapons and things that they have. And now some contracts coming up, you know, there's no way around this. We, we got to make some trades. We got to, you know, do draft the guy, you know, you got to get people out of there because it's just not working. Right. Sometimes when you put an all-star team together, it doesn't last forever, right? You, you can't just, it ages out for sure. Yeah. It ages out. And, you know, obviously, you know, you're going to see some of those guys go to other team and be successful. You're going to see, you know, that's, that's what happens, right you might see a guy um you know whoever it might be kareem hunt go somewhere else and just be an all-time great running back like you never never know uh but this cap space is something that's that's pathetic and the one that stands out to me is that the dolphins obviously at 28 just skipping it's just love it and i i think the dolphins are gonna do a good job i think you know with their new upstairs staff that they have you better yeah i think um they had that cool meeting the other night with uh you know season ticket holders and stuff where they're able to talk about some things uh you know the Dolphins got a lot to figure out but I think you know upstairs they're all on the same page they know what they want to do and how to do it and they're open about it right there's no uh one guy wants one decision one guy wants the other decision that's that's you know I feel like that's what we've been in the past so I do think the Dolphins are going to find ways to have some extensions maybe lump some some money or maybe put some money in the back half of the contracts in 27 in order to build certain things so I think that's definitely something to watch for the Miami Dolphins yeah yeah you got Cowboys I think also were on that list vikings in a sticky the saints man the saints is the one that it's like what are we doing over there man well you know that that's the teron armstead effect when they kept rolling and kicking the can down the road and those restructures when we ended up getting they paid teron armstead 15 million to let him go sign with the dolphins it was insane it was like uh they they kept rolling the can down the road and they've got insane pushback down the road it's It's like half of their salary cap is players that might even be retired. It's actually insane. What a disaster. Could be worse, right? It could be worse. It could be the Dolphins with a 52 million dead cap coming your way. Actually, 99 total. The Chiefs, I kind of want to spin that one a little bit. This could be a blessing in disguise. Obviously, not ideal that Mahomes tears his ACL, but you know you have that now. You look at this number. Maybe you take this year. You do a quick little reset. You let, you know, you go lose. You get a good pick. my homes is back in 2027 you're healthy you got a top pick you can go get him a real weapon or you can get a whatever you need at that point i think those chiefs they run their organization right they'll figure this out and they'll come out like geniuses in 2027 2028 we'll talk about how this was the blessing of disguise for them and they got to go get a top five pick and all that shit they will public back on the sheet he's doing it he's doing it i mean but we don't have a we don't have a reason to not believe that though so like that's that's my opinion on it and they have a lot of like, like Wingo was saying, they have a lot of old tread. They could easily free up this money. So like, I don't really feel like there's probably a lot of old tread and not guaranteed money considering they're old and down the back end of those deals. So I think they could really get out of this and then even use the down season as an advantage in the draft. And then you look at the Cowboys, they probably have the biggest free agent available this off season and George Pickens and like the franchise tag is like 42 million now or some shit. Wingo probably knows the answer to that, but I think it's like insane. it's like 40 million to tackle receiver uh and george pickens is not going to take a dollar less than market uh not up to the year he had yeah yeah that's interesting the vikings don't the vikings ah that's pretty bad too i mean they might have a quarterback but i don't know uh they have a lot of holes honestly the defense ain't what it used to be uh you get all the you get your coordinators back so that helps a lot but uh the vikings could be another question mark and the dolphins i don't have to get into i'll spend all season talking about that so i was going to throw something there for you. You mentioned the Vikings, right? What are you guys' thoughts on J.J. McCarthy? Obviously, right, great job in college football, Michigan, all that, you know, but this is the next level, right? You have him come out, now he get injured, and then come back. There were some flashes, there were some ups, there were some downs. Is he the guy that's going to be in Minnesota? Is he, I know there was a point where, you know, he had the team rallied behind him but I think now when you look at you know Justin Jefferson it like yo I want the ball Hey we got to we got to do some different things here I don know if J McCarthy is going to be the guy in Minnesota And I think that going to be the biggest question for them to figure out Yeah, I get it. I mean, it's one of those things you're not available. Like, what's that quote? Like availability is availability. Exactly. So that's his problem. Right. Because he has shown flashes. I don't think he's played enough yet also in the NFL to be to make that determination. Right. Like and I think that's one of these things in the NFL that I have a problem with. Right. It's like we're so quick to move on from these quarterbacks. Right. I mean, look, look what happened with Sam Darnold. Right. Like Baker Mayfield. Right. People are just like, ah, he stinks. Let's move on. We'll find the next guy. And then it's this constant cycle of we see it with teams, right? Always drafting a quarterback. Always drafting a quarterback. Dolphins are a victim to that along with a long list of a lot of other teams. So I do think it's like see what you got in J.J. again this year. But if you deal with the injuries again this year, then it's not maybe necessarily a performance thing. It's just an availability thing. And I think that's what they got to evaluate because, what, this will be his third year coming up, right? So they still got time, you know, rookie contract. They're clearly in a bad cap situation. So kind of got to ride with him a little bit. But how sick would it be if Mr. Tua ends up with his boy, Brian Flores over there in Minnesota? Yeah, that's not possible. He's got a restraining order. Thank you. My client will take no further questions. I want to talk about, we're evaluating, you know, non, you know, J.J. McCarthy. I think the real evaluation was within the Vikings. they let Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones walk out the building last offseason. They had both of them in the building. They both play career years, other places. And now the GM's fired. There's a lot of, we could have a whole parody, a conversation about that GM. Apparently he used PFF to draft players. That's how he went about his whole business is actually using PFF, which is insane. That's nothing better than, you know, that's a good Monday clout for a Dolphins fan is they use PFF ranking. It don't actually work. It just, it triggers people a little bit and it gets a little juice on the timeline, but you don't build a team off of PFF rankings. Especially when you know that like PFF, it's cool. It's a, it's a, it's a guide, right? Like it's something to use. You should use it in your repertoire, but like, dude, I could literally sign up for PFF and be grading the dolphins tomorrow. And how do you feel about that? Like, is that going to, you're going to run your job off of Bobby's opinion? I mean, I wouldn't recommend it, but I think that they, they have a lot of issues their own. they need to figure out. And it doesn't put much confidence in me or JJ McCarthy, knowing that guy made the selection and seeing that they left, let Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones walk out of the building when you already had them in place. And Sam Darnold had a great year there. It's not like he didn't like, it's not like he didn't produce. Like he played good there. So like they had no reason to let Sam Darnold leave, except for the fact that they invested a first round pick and a younger guy. And you know, that's, that's the situation they got stuck in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100 but let's uh let's touch on some of the teams that are in good cap situations right uh one of the teams which is you know insane to be in the top five is the seattle seahawks right sitting at over 70 million dollars in cap space just won a super bowl a lot of young guys that they're gonna have to pay right so how many of those guys are you able to retain right which is what happens right it's great when you're able to build this young roster through the draft but when you got a bunch of guys that are good eventually you got to pay them right so yeah considering with where they're at i think they got to spend money on the d you know spend money on the defense right to keep keep that up they already paid sam i don't know kenneth walker's uh contract situation there he's gonna be due free agent jsn it's gonna be due soon i think the biggest thing is that you know mike mcdonald's got to do here is is take it while you're on the high right yeah you just won a super bowl you're looking at some of these contracts let's spread these out right that's let's you know they just won all together you know they said we talked about them having a unit of special teams offense defense and now it's like hey let's renegotiate this contract to what you're worth but hey we're building a dynasty that's what he's got to pitch we're building a dynasty we're going to go on a run so let's extend this contract out you know for a few years and that's going to allow them to do it to everybody on their organization if you're winning football games at the end of day winning games cures all and right now that's what they're doing so being able to extend those contracts allows them to have more room and i think that's exactly what they're going to do Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Kenneth Walker, we got to speak to, you know, this past week. And one of the things that he brought up was, you know, the brotherhood within the locker room. Right. Like these guys want to stay together. Right. And they are in a fortunate situation where, to your point, they can stay together. Right. Obviously, there's always going to be fall off in certain spots. But at the end of the day, you could keep that core together. Right. Because you are in that situation where the cap's favorable to keep guys. Right. And you have the opportunity to do something special there. Like you just want a Superbowl have the opportunity to bring a bunch of guys back and let's say, Hey, look, let's go make a run. Maybe you can get more over there, but you stay here and we could do something real good for the next couple of years. Yeah. I think the interesting thing about the Seahawks and like, you know, it is like, it looks good on paper, but then you realize who they got to pay. Like literally free agents, like they have to pay or they lose. Yeah. Within a month, Kenneth Walker, Shahid, woolen josh job kobe bryant i mean five starters that contributed big like one was the mvp of the super bowl last week and uh shaheed is a bona fide wide receiver two and return specialist uh and then you got kobe bryant starting safety i mean woolen is a lockdown corner and exactly what you need in that system it's just they got problems arising i think and then to pivot i think the biggest thing that stands out to me on that list has got to be the chargers i mean the chargers aren't bad and they have everything in place and they've paid their quarterback and they still have that kind of money available and you bring Mike McDaniel in and you got Jim Harbaugh you lose mentors so the defense is going to be interesting but maybe you go actually let this guy buy a defense uh man the Chargers really the sky's the limit there that's that's kind of wild the top three makes sense because that's you know the rookie rookie quarterbacks one year off of tanking or currently tanking um so honestly in 100 million Wingo this 100 million really isn't all that Like that's not, that's like, what are you going to do? Go buy four starters? I know. I'm not saying. I was about to say Odell Beckham when he came out and said the freaking. Oh yeah. You can't live all a hundred million dollars. So no, but like, let's say like, if you need, if you have 35 players on your roster, you got to get to 53 and you got a hundred million dollars. What do you really have? You can't go buy $20 million players. You get Mendoza number one. And then what are the Raiders do with 87 million? You have to build a team around these guys. It sounds good to go get the stars, but like with 87 million, you can't, you can get three stars at the current market. It's like, and then you got a 20 roster spots open. It's like, it doesn't really work like you think it does. So I think the charger is probably in the best shape of anyone. How about them jets? How about them? No. Yeah. I honestly, I think the Tennessee situation is interesting. And I think that we, I don't think we, we touched on it, but like what team excites us next year. There's a lot, you know, we talked about Chicago. I like the tandem of Robert Sala and Dabo over there with a young Cam Ward, right? You got that defensive guy and Sala, right? I mean, we know he's been a head coach. He was there with the Jets, but the Jets are a scenario in itself, right? So, yeah, how much can you really judge a guy for being the head coach of the Jets, right? But he now can take what he learned. He went back to San Francisco, learned even more over there, And then comes here, brings in a guy like Davo, who's been respected on the offensive side, right? He gets fired, and he was like the first phone call for a lot of people to run their offense, right? So he runs it over there. He's got a young, talented quarterback in Cam Ward, and now you've got $99 million to utilize to go help Cam Ward. Their defense was actually pretty damn good last year, considering. And then offense obviously struggled, but that's what happens when you're a young team kind of going through this rebuild. So to me, that's an interesting situation. Obviously, the GM has his hands full as to building that roster through the draft, finding guys in free agency. But if they do it right, they could turn the corner over there. Yeah, and at Tennessee, one of the things that I think my biggest excitement for them was the entire year was Shimmer A.D.K. Man, that's my guy. Obviously, he came from Wisconsin, then went to Florida, and now with Tennessee. That guy's electric, not only just at receiver, but in the return game. Broke the rookie all season for all pro yards, made the Pro Bowl. You know, that guy's going to be something special with just his speed and ability. And I think that's what gave a lot of Tennessee people hope this past season was Cam Ward and Jim D.K. being able to just be electric and have those big time plays. And that's something Tennessee hasn't seen in a little while. So it's definitely enjoyable to be able to watch both of them. You know, Cam Ward's a guy who wants to win football games, right? So he's going to be very vocal about that. And he's going to find ways to do that. So I think, you know, they have some money to spend and they have the opportunities to do so. So I think almost Cam Ward's going to have a say in these things, right? You got to, right? You're trusting in this young quarterback. He's a guy that's vocal. You know he can play at a high level. Now let's see what works for him so we can make it work for everybody. So I definitely think they have an opportunity there for success. Absolutely. Absolutely. Another blessing is we just watched what Robert Sala did with the Niners and all their injuries. Yes. And that defense was thumping. It didn't matter who – it didn't matter what 11 rolled out there. So maybe you can get away with a little less talent with Sala calling the defense and being your head coach. and then maybe, you know, I'd say they're in a good position because they have premium money and premium picks. And no power plant. And no power plant. You can't underrate that. They got their tendons. So I think that, you know, they're in a good spot and it'd be interesting to see how they attack this offseason because they can go get the short fire. You can take your money and go get short fire offense alignment so you know your guy's protected. Then take your draft picks and go get a weapon. Go get a toy for Cam Ward. So they can really take care of Cam Ward real quick if they do it right. And I think they can. And, yeah, I'm excited for Tennessee. And, you know, Cam Ward being the Miami guy, we've all kind of like watched him a lot over the years, so we're all rooting for him. And then we've got to bring him up, Wingo. You can't forget about my boy Restrepo. You know, a little more development. Maybe he gets in the mix next year and sees a lot more playing time. Absolutely. I think he's going to be a guy, too, that's super versatile, right? You looked at him, what he did at Miami. You know, being able to do things in the slot, move around, you know be in the backfield a little bit he's somebody that i'm excited to see uh for next year to take that leap i know um they're keeping around for a little bit longer uh so yeah he's a guy that loves ball too just like cam ward obviously you know being able to be and have that connection uh he's all about ball man he wakes up and breathes football um and plays fortnight you know what a guy loves playing fortnight him and uh and chim dk but you know he's definitely a guy that can be exciting to watch and everyone down here in miami knows that yeah i think it sounds It's funny, but you can't underrate having a guy next to Cam Ward that he's thrown 10,000 passes to. I know. I mean, them dudes can throw passes to each other in their sleep probably. Like, they know where they want each other and where they're going to be and how fast and the timing. Like, you can't underrate that. I'm not saying that just because of that, Restrepo can be a number one receiver. But to have that guy in the rotation and always have a guy, especially come third down, that you know this guy's going to be on the same page as me, that means something. Yeah. What about George Pickens? end up in Tennessee. Boy, get bored. Hey, now. I like that. Hey, now. I love that, but I love it. Hold on, now. No state taxes. No state taxes. Come on, now. That would be electric over there. I see. I can see George Pekin taking his cowboy hat and strolling through Nashville. I didn't even think about that, but now I see the vision. I see the vision over there. Let's go. Hey, if it happens, we called it here first. What's today's date? February 13th. 13th. February 13th. Friday the 13th. Nice. I didn't realize that. It is Friday the 13th. It's the day before Valentine's Day. I hope you guys got your reservations. Right. Valentine's Day. We'll know those guys going for reservations at a 945 are the ones that forgot to make them throughout the entire week. I actually saw a lot of people doing Valentine's Day dinners last night to like beat the rush. Oh, that's smart. Yeah. That's always the play. That's just the side pieces that they're taking up the day before. I saw a TikTok about it saying that, you know, you take the other girl on the 13th and your main girl. I was like, oh, come on. Damn, bro. That's dirty work. That's expensive. How did you do it, Wingo? Sam. Put him on the spot, bro. He put you on full screen, too. That's crazy. He put you on the full screen, too. That's wild work, man. No, I think Andre just told me, though, go get George Pickens. Forget what I said about – normally you draft the talent, but go get George Pickens if you can. you don't not go to get George Pickens. Talk about a good weapon and a comfortable... I know what you're doing here, Bobby. You're trying to go right when you already went left, bro. You're fucked. Lock your door out there in Louisiana. I'm winging it right now, okay? Winging it. I like it. I like it. No, but really, if you can get George Pickens, get him. And then you can go tackle or whatever in the top 10 there, or whatever you need, or get another weapon. Who cares? Hey, trade down. Get Jeremiah Love. Now have some real fun. I'm down for it. I think that'll be fun. I think that I'm, I saw the vision and I'm like, dude, that would be sick. But I was going to ask you boys what you guys were doing for Valentine's day, but Bobby wanted to take it to a completely different turn. So I don't even know if we should have the discussion. I'm going to a nice little place on, on Florida beach with my girlfriend. We just moved into our house together. I'm excited about that. Got the war, the war room in the works right now for work and obviously for the show. So I'm super excited. Hell yeah. Bobby, what do you got going on? Got the kids. I'm over here raising these kids. We're going into the double-digit years, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, we don't get flustered about Valentine's. You might catch us at Chili's with the kids tomorrow night. Something light, you know what I mean? Actually, the blessing for us right now is it's Mardi Gras season. Peak Mardi Gras season. So, there are parades tonight, parades tomorrow night, and my girl's Cajun. So, you take her to a Mardi Gras parade, get her a frozen daiquiri in her hand. And she's, you love her. It's a good time. She knows you love her. It's real. I am lucky because I have a wedding today and a wedding tomorrow. So I don't have to do anything. We're celebrating. Who the hell gets married on Valentine's Day? Apparently it's a thing. I know. I have one. They had to wait until after the football season. They had to wait until right after the football season. As an attendee, it's phenomenal. You know, you get to celebrate love with your girl. The vibes are high. You know, vibes are high. Love in the air. Free drinks, free food. like i i'm like wait if anybody wants to do it again next year i'm down i always thought it was weird to get like engaged or ask a girl out like on the holidays because like yeah look it could always work but if it doesn't you just ruin that day for like it's always going to be like it don't matter how much you move on you'll always be like oh you're waking up with the kids for christmas oh my god the new bike and then you're like oh that bitch stole my heart in junior high school that is true that is fucked oh man all right let's uh before we kind of wrap it up here let's uh touch a little bit we got pebble beach first signature event of the year uh beautiful beautiful pebble beach i don't know if anybody if you've been there it is unreal a lot of cliffside beaches it's just it is one of the most pristine courses probably on the tour all year. But we got Goddard up, who won Waste Management last week. And now, I don't know if they teed off yet today. They probably are just teeing off now over there. But Goddard up, electric start again, coming off a win in Waste Management. Shot, I think, six or seven under yesterday. He's right up there on the top of the leaderboard. But for a lot of people that don't know, there is a man by the name of Ryo. Ryo, Ryo. Let me pull up his name so I don't butcher it. He sat, he sat stune, he sat stune, some shit like that. Stune. Yeah. Japanese, but he has been on a tear the last couple of years. Hasn't won, but is just always grinding up there in the leaderboard, always grinding there in the leaderboard. And there was something funny that he does, which I didn't realize this until yesterday. Before every putt, he grabs his like little Yeti water bottle and has a little straw and he sips out of the straw, right? before every putt and everyone's like bro that's like one thing is like you take a sip here and there superstition yeah it's a crazy but so people ask him like are you drinking water and he goes with his japanese accent he's like no i drink i drink sake what a legend bro which obviously he's like no no no i'm joking i'm joking it's water it's water because people were probably taking him serious like holy shit this guy's drinking sake on the course like that's that's what's getting all the funds that would bring that would bring the tour to another oh my god bro and especially a guy like him like people don't really know now all of a sudden he's playing really well so people are starting to like hear his name more and hear his name more and signature event he's up at the top of a leaderboard um and maybe sake is the answer so i mean i i haven't had a chance to to be out there at pebble beach i know it's absolutely gorgeous you know i played on the simulator sometimes i feel like but that's one to definitely watch out you know the weather too the winds you know everything gets it was raining yesterday too Yeah, so it's about, you know, playing in the conditions. How well can guys be able to overcome, you know, let's say you have a bad day one, day two bouncing back, you know, being conservative when the weather is a factor. So that's where I think you see guys like him be able to take his game to the next level because some of these top guys just say, you know, I'm done. I'm not dealing with the weather and this and that. So a lot of guys, I think, are going to have a lot of opportunities at a big-time stage, especially for the first go-round of the season. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, I'm looking at the leaderboard right now, a guy that I put a card on early before the tournament started was Mr. Akshay Batia. He is nine under right now. One stroke back in the lead. You got Ricky Fowler who's making a run right now. And then, you know, Scotty. Scotty's the guy obviously everyone wants to talk about. But back-to-back weeks where he just has a bad first round and then has to play himself back into the tournament. So we'll see what he does today. This course could play ridiculously tough to, like, your point, when that wind's blowing. There a stretch of holes that could just get real dicey real quick and then you add rain into the factor so it a stacked stack leaderboard today so we see what happens through the course of the weekend and uh watch out for Akshay Batia and uh watch out for Jake Knapp as well also playing really well so those are some names to watch going into the weekend does any course have better scenes than Pebble Beach like hole seven with the ocean in the backdrop is like it's hard to beach I mean The Spyglass, people make the argument Spyglass, which is the course right next to Pebble Beach, is up there as well. It has a very similar hole to hole seven on Pebble Beach. It's somewhere there on the front. I forget what it is. I want to say six or five, but it's also straight downhill, cliffside, beachside views. It's a little bit longer than the one on seven on Pebble Beach. Also another iconic hole. But, yeah, that whole area of Northern Cali up there by Pebble is. Yeah, TPC, Saltgrass, all that stuff is beautiful. Well, Sawgrass is in Jacksonville. I don't know if they have – I don't think they have a – What's the one? Is it Scottsdale? What's one in Arizona? TPC. Yeah, TPC out in – Yeah. They just had waste management. Okay, Scottsdale. Yeah, that thing is beautiful. Sawgrass is a nice course as well. I know they have the 16th hole where it's out there. But, you know, don't put me in – It's hard to be pebble. That's for damn sure. I would never probably play there because, you know, I would donate balls to the water. Yeah, I'm going to say. But it would be a cool picture. It would definitely be a cool experience. That is a place where you accept to go through like maybe five sleeves of balls in a round and be like, I don't care. I just spent maybe $500 on this round, maybe even more. God knows how much I've been. Yeah, so I'm out. Yeah, TBC, Sawgrass in its prime, like now, you know, kind of going into the season is probably somewhere like 700 bucks, I want to say, to play there. Low season, you could play there for probably like $200, $300. Pebble, you know, at its peak, it's somewhere up there. 700 plus but and that's one of those courses too where i say like insane views but it's probably more of the more hard like we can always say it's all water it's you're surrounded by water landlocked elevation gotta be insane like yeah you're elevated and you're coming off the ocean so the cross winds and the swirling winds has got to be like you have the i think it's the hole right before seven so it's hole six it's a it's a par five t box is down here and the green is like somewhere all the way up here. So you're playing, it's, God knows, you know, from the tips, 500, right? Plus maybe, but straight uphill, plus the winds in your face. So you're- You're probably seven something. Yeah, it's playing closer to like 650, right? I'm playing through, I'm playing through. I'm going driver, three wood, three wood, and then maybe an iron in, you know, just- A few drops, a few drops in there. Just trying to get up there and maybe have a chance at a bogey at the end of it. But it is unreal. It's probably one of the best courses. And this is kind of like the first signature event where you got the best field leading into the year. So we'll see what the weekend looks like. It'll be it'll be interesting considering all the big names up there and see if my boy Ryu or Akshay. I got cards on both of them and I'm in a pretty good spot going into the weekend right now. Heck yeah. Feeling good. Feeling good. All right. I'm just trying to shake back a little bit from that San Fran trip. Well, I got to make some of that money back. I was watching this show Landman. I don't want to go too much on a tangent here. I don't know if you've seen it. It's like the oil. And the wife goes to the casino. She calls her husband. Hey, can I take 10K out of the safe to go to the casino? And he's like, 10K? What are you doing? She's like, oh, I'm going to take the old people to the casino. And he's like, all right, whatever. Yeah, sure, go do your thing. She comes back, 390K that she won on the casino. She let it ride. Just on black. I'm sick. So hopefully we can do that. this is random but it all escalated pretty quickly while we were alive uh the raptors released chris paul but now officially chris paul announces his official retirement from basketball oh wow yeah damn what a shame i was hoping he got a ring yeah well they he would have got it he would have got a ring with kobe but they they screwed us uh you know they hate us because they ain't us type thing we would have had dwight howard chris paul and kobe and it would have been insane but they ruined that for us so anyways yeah shout out uh chris paul great career i don't know more carolina legend right there yeah there you go shout out chris paul great career um real quick we got winter olympics i don't know how much of you boys have watched the winter olympics um unfortunately i have not consumed much of it but uh one big story at least that we could touch on was Lindsey Vaughn, right? Winter Olympic legend, USA legend, you know, tears her ACL, I think in the trials, right? And is basically like, fuck it, I'm still going to go out there with a torn ACL. And unfortunately, like 15 minutes into that first round, or 15 seconds into that first round, breaks her leg on the run. Yeah, and that's tough, especially, you know, being her last Olympics, you look at somebody who that's what you've worked for your entire life. Right. And then to be so close on your last go around, right. And something like that to happen, it's like, you can't tell anybody in the world, right? No, I'm not going out there. I'm done. You don't want to end that way. You know, for her, I think at the end of the day, she's happy that she went out there. And I guarantee you, right. Those first 15 seconds, when she was out there, she knew, she knew, obviously she's like, this probably isn't going to go well, but you know, I'm happy that I'm here. And you know, this is what one of those moments in my life that I always remember, you know, sitting at the top of everything and being like, I'm proud that I was able to do this. So, so good for her, um, to be able to, you know, have the career that she had. Um, and then just a respect for an athlete knowing that, you know, I gave it my all for so long. Like, let me be on top one last time and experience that rush of, of being, you know, an amazing athlete. Yeah. No, she wasn't going to go down the way she did. That's for damn sure. Like, she was like, if I'm going to do this, like I got to be on, you know, on the, on the course, I guess you could call it, right? And at least give it a shot. But she is a legend, and it was a very illustrious career for her. I think U.S. right now is like third in total medals. Yeah, it's pretty cool. You know, I haven't kept too much up with the Winter Olympics. You know, when I do turn the TV on, all I see is like the little sniper guys. This one, yeah. Pooch, what is it? I'm not too big on it. Curling. Those guys are going crazy. I saw, you know, US won a big one of knocking somebody out. That shit's electric, man. You don't know what's happening, but it's hype. I've played the game where you throw the, you know, there's the board where you put the sand on it and you're throwing it. And that's basically what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're out there going to work. So I don't know if the stick is actually working. No, no. I've done it before. You're taking the friction off the ice so it goes faster. It's everything. Like if you don't have somebody there freaking grinding. to so god knows how that looks on camera but but like that that is everything when it comes to my understanding wingo is that the guy in the front can control the speed by how much they like rub the ground so the faster they rub the faster they rub the smoother the surface this is getting out of hand the less friction on the part you know what i mean this is getting out of hand i mean there is no other way to describe it but like it's actually really scientific though it's a huge like andre said it's a huge part of the role like you have to put it in line but like the scrubber is like just as important yeah and you have to put it where it stops you got somebody there at the end right where the where the circle you know where the colored circles are where you wanted to land to continue to scrape it because if it's got enough momentum you can actually get it off there so it's like the the scraping is pretty much everything the toss is just kind of half of it i guess you could say which the tossing is hard as shit by the way. Like, we did it, bro. People were face-planting on the ice. It's hard. You got to, like, pace it enough where it's not too much speed, but you also have to be, you know, strategic about what's already there, so you want to maybe try to knock somebody's off. So that might be my favorite Winter Olympic sport outside of the snowboarding. Once you do it once, you're kind of like, shit, I respect it. And then you got hockey, too. True. Yes, USA played yesterday. USA played yesterday, 1-5-1. Was that the final score? Yeah, 5-1. I can't even pronounce the name of the team that they did play. Was it Latvia, maybe? Latvia. I think it was Latvia. But it was amazing. I saw a clip on ESPN. The puck movement, them able to just look like they're playing together. I might – don't be upset at me about this one. I actually just a few months ago watched the movie Miracle. What? Yeah, I honestly had no idea. One of my buddies put me on and said, watch this movie, and I'm fired up for USA Hockey. That is actually a great movie to watch. That was one of the most amazing. We got the Kachuk USA signed jersey right there behind them. I am fired up. That movie's got me going crazy. Just to have the opportunity to be out there and play against those guys. I know everyone's looking forward to the Canada game. Obviously, that's what everyone wants to see. But taking it step by step, USA's got some guys. Yeah, they do. Led by our boy Chucky over here. David, if he was here, would be going on a rant about Canada right now. he might be one of the most hated men in Canada during this time of the year. We had a clip go viral last year and it was like, it hit the Canadian algorithm, not the USA algorithm. It was just David getting absolutely roasted in the comments, bro. Like insulting his beard, his glasses. I'm like, yo, why are we making this personal now, bro? But Dave did go after them. Dave did go after them. When you make it about someone's homeland, you kind of open it all up. I mean, fair is fair. Yeah, and he'll do it again this year. So stay tuned for a Canadian rant from Dave. But I think that pretty much does it here. We got our dude of the week and dude moment of the week. So, of course, dude of the week is the boy, Kenneth Walker, coming off a Super Bowl MVP. He's just a dog. He's a dog. Deserved it. I know we talked about it earlier on the show. Got to speak to him. Got to talk to him. he is he's a nice low-key guy he's mellow yeah he's mellow even keel dude um i tried to get him to uh say a spanish word he was like he was like i don't know spanish and i'm like all right i'll teach you one and i told him tranquilo and then he's like nah i ain't saying that he's saying cool but uh you know he is that kind of vibe he's very mellow uh he seems like a good dude and apparently he was trying to negotiate his contract. Yeah, I was just about to say, I mean, I have no idea if that's actually true or not, but they said he was negotiating his contract when everyone was up there drinking and having fun. Hey, props to you. Shoot him where you got while they're high too. The guards down. I got a few things I want to say about Kenneth Walker, but before I say that, over 235 people watching across the platform. Like I said, we appreciate you watching from wherever you enjoy the podcast but please make sure you also come over to youtube show all the channels love you know support the growth you know more stuff's coming it's the off season so you already know we're cooking uh we've been in the lab talking about everything we got coming and it's going to be incredible so keep supporting obviously wherever you enjoy it enjoy it there but it helps when you help us grow so uh kenneth walker yeah it was cool for me to see him on the biggest platform show off his game like that i think to me the coolest part was his patience. There were so many runs where he was just not rattled. Yes. Yeah. Le'Veon, Bell Prom, just straight, calm, smooth, nothing rattled him. Kind of like his personality. Sometimes that stuff translates. He just, he's a cool dude. He's calm and collected. They paid all for him big time a couple of times. So it was awesome to see that. Yeah. Yeah. Pay the man, pay the damn man. Let's go. And then we got our dude moment of the week, which is from not Pebble waste management last week. I don't know if you guys saw this, But there was some heckling going on in the final hole there, which some argue cost Hideki the tournament. Right. He was off with the driver all week. But yeah. Yeah, I love golf. I mean, which management is a tournament in itself, just completely different than any other tournament. Something like this probably would not happen in most places. Right. Vibes are high. Energy's high. Drinking's been happening all day. It introduces a lot of people to the game of golf. Right. But for people that may not know or not really truly care about the, what do you call it? Like the traditions of golf, right? The etiquette, proper etiquette of golf. Yeah. And there's a lot of that. I mean, I think that's the hard part though is, it's like you're introducing, you're getting a younger crowd, right? You're getting a more rowdy thing. That's how you're selling the whole bit. And people are going crazy. The drinking's flowing. We're at whole 18 by the end of the day. Who knows how drunk those people are. But yeah, it's tough because that's what sells that game. in that event but it's also like to know that like these are the gaps you can't do all the stuff that you've been doing all day is it's absolutely not okay but it's also like it's tough yeah it's like bro you could be as loud as you want at any other time but that's like the one moment just choose to like just keep it quiet for a second you know and you know this guy had the uh i guess you know he was like you know what screw you i'm gonna say something to you like just like there's a million and other people around you and you're going to be the one guy to say something like for whatever attention yeah yeah for sure for sure and then it turned into a heated moment and i forget what the guy said to him but uh shout out this guy for uh you know defending hideki and uh defending the integrity of the game of golf however you feel about the rules you know i think there is there's a fine line to it right there's a balance to it all it's like have fun and keep growing the game and like let's remove some of like the stigma and like the what do you call that like the i don't know what the word is yeah yeah exactly and like let's have some fun with it but for one second just like you can keep your mouth shut also hideki just had terrible luck because in the playoff i don't know if you saw that shit the guy one of the guys there like one of the attendants like you know working the tournament happened to drop a chair or something in his backswing and like i don't even know how he stopped the swing but like right on the downswing the chair falls and he was able to like pull it up and then he ends up straight hooking in his next drive so i think it was just goddard ups like tournament to win i mean he he also was on a heater in that back and i and he won i won five birdies of the last six holes so he got himself into that spot and hideki just uh yeah just choked unfortunately that was the same tournament they were paying the god the streamer paid the god that like the heckle people and stuff like that yeah it's waste management yeah see that's the stuff you're getting out there though when you unfortunately i hate to sound like the the old guy but like when you when you sell and you bring that kind of crowd in you're gonna have some of that and that's just you know it's unfortunate but yeah you know that's where it's coming it's such a big deal like waste management is like the biggest deal especially for the young guys the young kids like that's really brought golf into the mainstream you know zone and uh unfortunately that's gonna you know you're gonna have stuff like that every year yeah no absolutely uh i mean two years ago they had to stop selling alcohol last year or was it last year one of these years they had to alcohol completely everyone broke down the fence and they were running in and chaos i wish i was there and it's just it's just nuts yeah i've gone the last i didn't go this year but the i went the three years prior and it i mean it's amazing it's amazing it's great for the game but don't they like throw like alcohol on the green and stuff when people like do certain shit and stuff on 16 yes uh they've kind of cut they've cut that down obviously hole 16 is one of the most iconic golf holes uh you know from like a fan perspective uh but if someone hits a hole-on-one there beers are being thrown on the floor regardless yeah like that's like the one like spot they're like all right yeah let it happen everywhere else though like joel damon in the past has taken off his shirt and he's swinging in the crowd. Joel Damon is the man. He's, he's definitely one of those guys, you know, that's being a dude. He's one of those guys, but yeah, that about does it for today. Uh, boys appreciate everybody that tuned in. Uh, I don't know any final words, any final thoughts from the group. I'm pumped up. I'm ready to go. This off season's loaded with some of the things that, you know, we're going to bring, uh, the team is working hard to kind to get things done and special guests, all the things that we're going to do. So I'm super excited just to kind of get it rolling and, you know, see us every Friday at 12. Yes, sir. Bobby. Yeah, not to, I told myself I wouldn't cry, but just a shout out to the guys, man. We had such a good weekend in San Fran. And I know that it all looked cool on the internet and stuff, but Andre really did put a lot into it and he, he didn't spare a dollar and he made it awesome for us. And we had a lot of fun and we ate a lot of good food and we drank a lot of good beer. And we've seen a lot of cool things. And we almost lost one of our members to a scooter. But it was absolutely electric. And there's going to be more content coming out from that. But there's a lot of things you'll never see. Just know that we did it all, man. And it was awesome. And we did it. Fuck yeah, baby. We'll be back next year. LA. Oh, shit. Let's go. Let's go. But yeah, it was a great week. And we will see you guys next Friday. Appreciate you all for tuning in. And let's run it back next week. Let's have a good time, boys. Peace. Great show, Pooch.