The Future of Chiro and the Power of the Adjustment with Dr Nick Krysl DC - Chiro Hustle Podcast 746

you've made it to chiro hustle sit back and learn from the greatest influencers in the profession on the world's number one chiropractic podcast this episode is brought to you by peach state payments ethical processing more profit less stress chiro hd more than an ehr practice management simplified the chiro speaking company attract educate and convert chiro spring cloud-based user-friendly software with all the essential features chiropractors need. OmniWave, redefining comfort and acoustic wave technology. The Chiro Hustle Podcast is sponsored by ChiroHealth USA, ChiroScript AI, ChiroMoguls, Pure ChiroNotes, Five Star Forge, Tytronics, Sherman College of Chiropractic, Life Chiropractic College West, and IFCO. Let's hustle. Hey guys, welcome to episode 746 of the Chiro Hustle podcast. I'm your producer, Luke Millett. Here's your host, James Chester. So today we have the opportunity of interviewing Dr. Nicholas Kreisel. If you want to hear our conversation about the future advice to chiropractors and the power of the adjustment, stay tuned for the full episode. Welcome back. This is another episode of the Cairo Hustle podcast. I have Nick Creasel on with me out there in the beautiful state of South Dakota. Had a chance to go out there and speak at their convention a couple months ago. What a great group. We're going to talk about the future DCs and some advice for them, where he sees the profession going and the power of the adjustment and some of the things that he sees in the clinic on a day to day. But before we get into Dr. Nick's story and how he got into this beautiful profession, I'll just let you know our big why. Why do we do what we do over here at ChiroHustle? Well, first things first is protecting freedom of speech. It's near and dear to my heart that we never censor anybody because I know what it's like to be shadow banned and traffic throttled and censored, and I'd never do that to you. Next thing is we believe in medical freedom, body autonomy, and family health freedom. If you need advice or guidance on any of this, reach out to a chiropractor in your city and they'd be happy to support you in this initiative. Third, we believe in protecting B.J. Palmer's sacred trust. It's his last written words. If you want to know more about that, go to the show notes and click on sacred trust. I don't care if you've been practicing for 30 plus years. You're going to fall even deeper in love with this profession because the sacred trust is something that's something very important to chiropractic. And then philosophy. We believe in subluxation-based chiropractic. Find it, fix it, leave it alone. Clarence Gonstead said that. But we also believe in innate intelligence, universal intelligence, and the educated intelligence. We believe that when man or woman, the physical gets adjusted, it connects them to man or woman, the spiritual, which creates the educated intelligence. And with that, episode 746, Dr. Nick, welcome to the show. Boom. Well said. Well said. Thank you. Thank you for having this opportunity. Yeah. I feature that introduction because people might not listen to this whole show, but I'm going to excite them to understand chiropractic from a philosophical stance and from protection stance. And I think that there's a very significant thing that a lot of people can't vocalize. So after doing 746 of these shows, I found out what really matters. and what really matters is what I talk about. And I think that when you boil it all down, the next best part of the show is you. So, right. But it's just to just hear it over and over again, just, you know, I think sometimes we forget the beautiful, uh, beauty, I don't know of the innate and how it works and how it connects. And it just, it's just one of those beautiful things that we get to be a part of. Yeah. So chiropractor, how many years you've been at it? I've been in practice here in South Dakota for 15 years. Moved here in 2010. Bought a practice from another doc, and I've been here, and I'm just loving it. It's a great blessing every day. Well, I'll just tell anybody out there listening, if you get your chance to go see Dr. Nick and get adjusted, the guy has great hands, great technique, great line of drive, and just a phenomenal adjuster. I told him he needs to get out there on the road and start teaching this skill to other practitioners because unfortunately, one of the things I hear is when kids come out of college these days that they don't have a lot of confidence in their hands and their techniques and their adjusting skills. And off camera, you're saying, hey, man, I don't care what technique you use, just use the one that works for you. But we need to get these, the future chiropractors just need to have a bit more conviction and their confidence when it comes to adjusting skills and their compassion for making sure they're doing the right thing for the patient in front of them. Amen. And if I could give them like what advice like coming out through school and you're trying to find your find your technique, find your flow is to have that one word and it's wonder. You know, what? Why? How does how does that vertebrae move? How does it all go together? That wonder of like, how could I do it different? Who's doing it different? How do they do it? Why do they do it that way? It does work for me. It doesn't work for me. I've met many chiropractors show me their technique and I'm like, I can't do that. And I tried. And so it was one of those things like I had to find my flow, you know. But it was just that constant like search wonder of like, how do I do it better? How do I get better at this? well i i talked to a lot of the chiropractic uh like new grads and uh students in school still and i think one of the most vital things that i would say is um get involved in different student clubs and uh go to seminars outside of the school and learn from technique masters but also take Get it at school. You know, like you got it. You got to get out of there. Hit the street, you know, get that airplane and go find some guys that that are they're passionate, you know, that they're showing you what they know. That's where I got it from. Like, I didn't make this stuff up myself. I just kept going and going and going and going and going and finding people. Yeah. And that's that's just it. It's a compound effect. And eventually you get the confidence and you get a chance to learn how to move the bone. Yep. And, you know, I just think that there's a lot of impact that we could share about the life of a new grad or the life of a student. And I know you wanted to share some ideas around numbers and finances. Let's just jump right into that. Like, let's talk about chiropractic success. I think that whole thing could be like we could back up even something we were talking about earlier about being involved in the community, be involved in your chiropractic community. I was fortunate enough to get involved in my local chiropractic community. Just kind of walked in, got given the torch, like, here you go, run this thing, you know, do whatever you want. And so brought in all these different speakers and had to, like, think outside the box of, like, who is out there? Who's on fire? Find that person, bring them to you, and then share. Share with everybody, show the love. I think those people were the most influential people in my whole well-being of my life. Those people were only because I jumped in, got involved, led an organization or two, and just spread that love. I don't know if I would have found them a different way. um as of you know chiropractic uh students coming out i think there's just a lot of tension a lot of pressure to to be successful in all areas and that that they should be developed by the time they take their their boards that they're just ready to jump and swim a race and they're not um i don't believe that we're taught about money and how money works and what it's for and and and the philosophy behind money and and why you get paid and and and why you give it back to your community and this whole, you know, this whole money thing. I think it's, you know, it's tough because they got a lot, they got a lot of student loans. They want to buy a nice big house. They want to drive nice cars. They want granite on the countertops. They want, they want all these things. And you can't do that. It just, it's an old man telling you, you're gonna, you're gonna get in trouble because there's nothing worse than the collapse of money. And, and it'll, it'll eat your lunch. It'll make you second guess everything you do. So find your passion, find your purpose, you know, find that thermatical of where you're going and what you're doing. That's that technique. That's that nutrition. That's that whatever you need to, to, to care for people and give them your best adjustment. Um, I think that all revolves around itself. I think I've had a lot of young guys come in and either a shadow or intern for a while. Um, and I, I don't think they're looking for that information, but I think they're very thankful once we go through it after a few times, how to, how to invest in themselves, that they're the best investment, whether it's their time, their talent or their treasure. There's so many times where we just need to be connected and whether that's getting cleared out with a great chiropractic adjustment or finding people in our life that connect with us and building the fellowship. I know that was one of the things we were talking about off camera is about building community and fellowship. And you were talking about that earlier about getting into leadership positions. But I think anybody that's out there that really wants to go somewhere, going with other people and learning from each other is really the way to do it. And doing it by yourself will get exhausting you won't have confidence in what you're doing and you'll follow the method and you'll just refer out and eventually you won't be a chiropractor anymore totally i mean it's it's the story that happens you see that downhill slide so yeah sorry i have some people that just walked in my office can i can i put you on mute real quick and say hey sure yeah okay okay so I still apologize. I was not expecting. No, it's all good, man. Like that's the great part about podcasting is it's real time. It's real life. And we share real stories. It's real. Yeah. And I know you've been a part of the profession. You said 15 years, um, start out Northwestern and, uh, got a chance to come out to South Dakota and work. Um, let's talk, let's, let's, let's rub the crystal ball for a moment. Um, the next 15 years, you're 30 years in practice. Where's the profession at? That's a great question. There's a lot of speculation, right? in terms of what's going on on the backside of the profession, what's happening in the colleges, what's happening to our philosophy, what's happening. And there's a lot of questions that I don't know if we have answers to. But there's a huge amount of concern. There's a huge amount of concern for the loss of what we're doing right here. Talking about the innate, talking about the subluxation, talking about how we, you know, are part of the healing process, how we allow the body to communicate with the brain and have a neuroplastic event, how all that helps them adapt to their environment and become more neuro engaged and connected and emotionally connected, you know, spiritually connected, chemically connected. Because we know the nervous system is huge in all the synapses that are happening and all the processes. I don't remember how many processes are in the body, but like 3 trillion processes or something like that. And the nervous system is the curator of this. Yes, there's hormones, neurotransmitters and peptides. Yes, those are the big communicators, cell to cell, organ to organ, but not without the nervous system. Like you let somebody see one up, you're going to see a change. And the miracle that you see right and fold in front of their eyes. I don't, I don't know how to explain it other than it's amazing. And we can, we can get into all the chemicals, we can get into all the medications, we can get it onto all the toxins and all the pollutants that are in our, in our system and how, you know, whatever excretion and, you know, absorption, let the innate flow. Well, I was, I've been around to a lot of different colleges, chiropractic colleges, and I been to a lot of different chiropractic gatherings and groups And you know I heard that it really is hard to get a chiropractic intern or a chiropractic associate because most of the time they don't have a high level of confidence in the adjusting skills. And they don't have a high level of confidence in why they need philosophy. And, you know, I think in 15 years, if we don't make that a primary focus of retaining the philosophy and getting really good at one thing and that's adjusting um we we might become a subcategory in the healing arts you know slashed with massage slashed with you know herbalism acupuncture or you know massage or you know body work or not that those are bad but but two paths that we need to really be aware of like we either become very proud as a profession and honest and uh have high standards and have a high ethical approach to doing the right thing but also having a high level of conviction and confidence so i think that if we can tie those qualities together and instill that into the future chiropractor, now we have something to work with. And I think that I'm excited for the next 15 years because I know that you and I will have some time to mature the relationship and talk about how to make at least the little corner of earth that you support in South Dakota a little bit better. And with what we're doing here on a global scale with Chiro hustle, we have a chance to take your message and weave that into the tapestry of this chiropractic narrative and these chiropractic stories. And, you know, I did a documentary called Project Patient back in 2016. And my last question I asked one of the patients that was a part of that film was, where do you think the future chiropractic is going? And he said he recovered from a drug addiction. And it was amazing stories. His name was Brady, but he said the chiropractic professional will go wherever these stories take it. And that was just such a true statement. And that's why I'm relentless on producing these, these shows and these stories because the profession will go exactly where we frame it up and support it. If we don't frame it up for the right way and support it, it doesn't have the ability to thrive. So we need good people to stand out in the gap and to take the momentum and teach it and disseminate it and love it and learn it and teach it. And I think with great leaders creates a great future. And without great leaders, you can see what's happened to some of the educational institutions. they retired out all the great leaders and now you're getting this watered down colluded identity that really just teaches these kids to pass boards yes so and we have questions about that too like you know what is part four do we need it you know what is what's going on with that what's with the cost what's with the location what's with there's there's a lot of things to open up there. What about standardization of expectations of care? Like teach you new grads, what is the bare minimum? What do we need to be a good chiropractor? What can be expected if you walk into a chiropractic office, what do you get? Like if you walk into, I'm going to use an example, McDonald's, you know exactly what you're going to get. I don't care if you're in Japan. I don't care if you're in the US. I don't care if you're in Germany. It's going to be a Mickey D's sandwich. And if we can deliver high quality care that works, that's supportive, that's fair, that's honest, that's ethical, we raise the bar. And we keep it above the line. And we teach good, honest, ethical chiropractic. And it starts with philosophy and good leadership. It starts with good mentors and good technique teachers. It starts with good business coaching. I think everybody should have a coach. If you don't have a coach, get one. Somebody that aligns with what you're going to do and why you're going to do it. And be in that realm of that person to help lead you. I mean, I've had multiple leaders over the years that I don't know where I'd be without them. um i i talk about even like in undergraduate i've joined a fraternity um and i don't know without my brothers i mean sure there's partying and there's stuff that goes on in college but it wasn't about that it was about setting the bar for a gpa and to work hard and to be involved we did a lot of filth uh filth philanthropic thanks philanthropic there we go stuff in the community a lot like it it seemed like every other weekend we had something to do. And it just, it was different than what I grew up with. I grew up on a ranch. It was work hard seven days a week. There is no whining. You kind of get up tomorrow and do it again when the sun comes up. So that work ethic was a good thing. But to see how your community tied into your practice and your work, I think I got a lot of that in many different experiences in life. And it's so easy to see that secret, that the power of positive thinking, the power of what I put in my mind is where I go. And so that's kind of tying back to what you were saying earlier about we need to tell these stories. We need to save our subluxation. We need to tell people the miracles of chiropractic. But it's not something you believe in. It's a science. It's an art, man. It works. People vote with their feet. If my door wasn't busting down all day, I'd go, well, I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do. It's busting down all day because it's working. That innate is there, and I trust it, and I love it, and I know it's there, and I don't have to think about it. Well, I was telling you, I just hit a major milestone of 11,500 new chiropractic patients, And I have people that come past by me a lot and they tell me, um, I don't believe in chiropractic. And I said, well, you don't have the good news is you don't have to believe in chiropractic. It's like gravity. It works whether you believe in it or not. Honestly, my favorite, my favorite new patient is the one that does not want to be there. Like I get in there. I'm like, Oh yeah. Right. And then just like light them up. And they come back the next time and they're like, Whoa, what was that? I was like, Oh, you experienced life, life through your nervous system. It's pretty cool inside here. Do you want to see where you're going to go? They're like, oh yeah. You don't even have to tell them. You're going to ride the horse and see where it goes. They're like, we're going. I'll ride with you. This is going to be a great time. It's just so much fun to watch. Like we said earlier, what are some of your miracles that you saw? I don't know. There's so many. Maybe you don't always hear the miracle. You have those patients that came back seven years later, you're like, oh, I lost them. I didn't do them right. And they come back like, you saved my life. You know, I sent like 10 people your way. You saved my life. It just, I was alive again. Amen. One of my favorite guys, he comes in, I'm like, dude, the chart says you're 35. You look like you're 50. What are you doing? You need to stop it. And then I didn't see him again. I was like, oh, okay. All right. Whatever. And he comes walking in one day, just slicked back, nice shirt, looked great. I was like, dude, what happened? He's like, well, I thought about it. You said, whatever I need to change, I changed. He's like, I got a new house, new girlfriend, new job, new dog, all kinds of stuff. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, who's your girlfriend? It just lit him up, and he just looked healthy. I mean, I saw him one time. It inspired him. It changed his life. and now he's a regular patient again. You just never know how you're going to impact somebody, so take it serious. Well, that's the thing, man, is it's that impact that when you're on purpose, we're like a lightning rod. And when we are emitting lightness and energy and we carry that momentum throughout our day and we touch a lot of lives, you never know how far reaching what we say or do will have an impact on these people. And when you do it the right way with great intent, it might be that one adjustment that changes the future of somebody. It might be them trusting you for being that doctor of cause that they come into and you tell them the story about how the nervous system connects the brain, the body and how if they don't have a maximum flow of neurological pattern, then their body's going to be diminished and they aren't going to have the same life force. And I think that that's an amazing thing because, you know, having time with the doctor is priceless in today's world. And if people knew how valuable getting in to have 30 minutes of a first visit with a chiropractor where they got muscle tested, orthopedic checks, the x-rays, and the report of findings, if they knew how valuable that was, your door would be busting down around the clock. And that's the thing is provide a good service, but have a strategy and a system to build a business with it. I think Sid Williams would always say, you got to have your adjusting hand, and you got to have your money hand. And I think that when people understand that in the chiropractic spaces, not only do you have to be successful with your adjusting, but you also have to be successful in your business. And then you can make maximum impact. And then you can go teach the future chiropractors on how to do likewise. So I think the miracle that you shared with me is pretty darn special because you addressed a point in this man's life and it woke him up. And then he comes back and it's almost like the prodigal son. He couldn't wait to show. He just couldn't wait. Dude, look at what I did. You know? Yeah. And it was, I don't know, it's just, it's just beautiful. You know, you see so many of those that, but you got it. You got to get, when you go to work, you got to be intentional of why and what you're doing. Like I write it on my hand, like every day, like be on point, be present, be in that space, be consciously aware of of what you're doing and and just to think of that paisa form what it's doing and how it's opening up that like i think about it before i set that bone i'm like i figured it out i know what it needs all right intention boom set it um and i i think those miracles just become more and more and more and more so and how to communicate we talked a little bit about business stuff you know like those are different hats whether you're the technician or the manager the entrepreneur, the dreamer, where do you go? I think you got to have your technique dialed in, but you got to keep that entrepreneur flow, that love flow. But earlier you mentioned about some mentors and some work ethic. Was it your dad that taught you the work ethic? Oh yeah. Yeah. He's still doing it. That man just, he'll work you in the ground. I love him. He just, he can go. He's just, he's just got a bunny, just big old battery. in him. He just goes, goes, goes, goes, goes. He just tears anything apart, fixes it. I was on the phone with him today and I was, what are you working on? Oh, I'm tearing apart the old welder. Broke down. God, this thing's like 50 years old and I tore it all apart and figured out what's wrong with it and fixed it. And it still works. It just goes, you know, it's like, I don't know. I just love him. I mean, just wide open. So yeah, the work ethic is good. I think that's just kind of a heart thing. You're like, what do you do? Why do you do it? Um, he raises cattle and, and he, he's feeding the world. That's, that'd be his thing. I'm feeding the world. Um, what did he, what did he think about his ranch boy and becoming a doctor? Yeah. Well, I mean, that's kind of where the story started. Uh, he heard his back. It was the nineties, I suppose. Um, I was told, got to have your back looked at, you know, surgery or something like that. Uh, and he just had severe sciatic pain. And so he went to the chiropractor and I went with him and he just was new again. And I thought that is really amazing. And he was just blown out of the water. He's like, dude, maybe you should do this someday. My, my, my folks are on a ranch that's five generations been there since 1903. Um, It not a huge place Mom and dad took over it you know running it Wasn a lot of room for me unless I wanted to grow that part of it And I just I don know It was just something I loved about chiropractic I was like I either going to be a cowboy or I'm going to go to the military or I'm going to go be a chiropractor. And I was like, I want to go be a chiropractor. I'm going to see if I can make this work. I was like, all those fails. My dad says, cows always be here. Come back. I was like, let's do this. And I still remember, which was one of my funniest days ever. Like you're going through undergraduate and you're like busting butt trying to get good grades. And I called a college and I was like, what do you take to get into this school? And they're like, just send us your resume and this stuff. She calls me back like 10 minutes later. She's all right, we got you signed up. You're ready to go. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was way too easy. I don't have to do interview questions, nothing. No, no, we got you all signed up. We're ready to go. I was like, I got to, I got to think about this. Click. So then I went to Northwestern. I called Northwestern, had to sit down and do an interview and all this stuff. And it was just like a more over process. And I just thought it was too easy to go to this other school. It just totally caught me off guard. And, and so I, I don't know why I chose, I know why I chose Northwestern. I thought they had better walleye fishing, to be honest, but I didn't know at that time, you know, and I think about that as well. Like what if we, what if we pushed into undergraduates and talked about chiropractic? Does anybody go to the undergrads and like, why don't we have a, a course in chiropractic at undergraduate. You've made it to Cairo Hustle. Sit back and learn from the greatest influencers in the profession on the world's number one chiropractic podcast. This episode is brought to you by Peach State Payments, ethical processing, more profit, less stress. Cairo HD, more than an EHR, practice management simplified. The Cairo speaking company, attract, educate, and convert. Cairo Spring, cloud-based user-friendly software with all the essential features chiropractors need omni wave redefining comfort and acoustic wave technology the chiro hustle podcast is sponsored by chirohealth usa chiro script ai chiro moguls pure chiro notes five star forge titronics sherman college of chiropractic life chiropractic college west and ifco let's hustle well i think that we have a lot i think we have a lot of strategic planning to do as we move forward. I think that the more we open up conversations like this, the more we learn from each other, the more we see where the gap in the divide is, the more we see where we can fill in the holes and make a smooth surface for others to walk on to where they don't fall. And I think that these types of conversations are what makes the world better. But I don't want to jump off the interview quite yet until we were talking about your father being a great mentor, but talk about the arc of getting into chiropractic. Who are some of the early influences on you? So I got to spend a little time with Dr. Mark Charette and extremities and a few other extremity guys. And I just, I fell in love with extremities. Met a guy named Dan McClure out in Colorado. He's another extremity guy. I think, I think I learned that guys knew that how to adjust extremities were really good at spine. I think that set them apart because they were tougher. They were more intricate. You really had to put more and more together with it. So that's why I kind of really got into extremities. Do I run an extremity chiropractic office? No. Do I run an upper cervical chiropractic office? No, I do that as well. Do I do a Thompson? Do I do, you know, I got Lloyd tables laying behind me. Do I do a lot of disc stuff? Yes. I think it's kind of like being a dentist. If you're just doing orthodontist, I think that's all you get to do. But if you're a good general dentist, you can do root canals, you can do implants, you can do all these things. I think that same thing applies for our profession. I think if you can broaden your horizon, you don't have to be a specialist in one area. You can see it all. Just see it all. See a ton of people. Have a huge impact. It takes seconds to give somebody an adjustment. You can give them the best damn adjustment they've ever had in and a flick of the wrist, put your innate in there and set it. Um, when I first got out of school, I was in a practice down in Nebraska, uh, wheels chiropractic in Scottsbluff or gearing Nebraska. Um, and we, we've talked about pinnacle. Um, I think we did, there was a couple other different companies that we were with for coaching. Um, after I bought this practice, I moved up here. My wife was from Rapids, so we moved up here. I was in Epic Practice with David Jackson. And Dave has a really unique look on the practice. It really opened up my eyes a little broader to thinking about what I was doing and why I was doing it. It was more marketing, more sales, which is good. I feel like you got to get your processes dialed in before you start marketing yourself and saying you're good at all these things and you know how to do all this stuff, then you got to have all your processes dialed in so you can handle the flow. I started with a group called Sidecar. I think you probably met him at the conference. Yep, Nathan Unruh. Fantastic. Doug C. I mean, dude, that man's a wizard. I don't know if there's another guy like him. His ability to see how you need to put a process in place, how you need to develop. And I think that's what like side cars trying to do, um, is they're trying to create a standard of care and they're, they're trying, and they don't care what technique, they're not talking about technique. They're talking about running your business and how to run your business and how it flows, how to, how to manage that flow. And that you have a team, you don't have staff and you, you know, you work together and you have high standards, uh, nothing below the line. Just there's a, there's a, there's a whole bunch of fun stuff with that. And I recommend anybody to check them out. But those opportunities about getting involved in your local community, getting involved in your local chiropractic association, state associations, national associations, getting out there hustling, meeting those guys that are out there doing the same thing, they're going to put you in network with all the guys that know what they're doing, their phone call away. You know, I, if I, if I go to the term in my, in my cell phone doctor, I mean, there's just a ton of doctors in there and I feel so blessed to have their cell numbers, like call them, they can call me. I'd shoot them a, you know, happy Thanksgiving text. You know, we love on each other all the time. Yeah. I have distinctions in my phone too. And I have around 830 people with the name DC in my phone. So just knowing that your network is your net worth, I'll never go hungry. Like if I ever need help, if I ever need assistance, if I ever need guidance, if I ever need mentorship, coaching, plugged into another stage, I'm just one message away from the whole world opening up for me because what you invest in becomes um your livelihood and that's why i keep on doing this cairo hustle podcast because it's uh it's fuel for me but it's a message for the world before we skip over like why do you do what you do like we were talking about how you document all this why i i really want you to reshare that story Yeah, well, you know, the trueness of it is I saw that there was a huge God-sized hole in the universe when it came to truth of chiropractic and messaging and consistency. And I told myself, if I could create more truth on chiropractic than anyone else was doing, I could help this profession fill a gap. and my north star from day one was always to create a thousand podcast episodes and you being episode 746 I was telling you that I did the math this morning how many more we have to go to reach our annual in the next 22 months will be a decade of doing this and what it means for the GDP and the messaging of chiropractic really as I started doing the project more and more I started to uncover the greater why. So if anybody ever wanted to change chiropractic and remove the language from chiropractic, we'd take them to court. We have enough evidence from 746 episodes of this podcast that we could go filibuster the courts and we could stand up for chiropractic with evidence saying, no, that's not chiropractic. This is chiropractic. This is the testimony of 746 chiropractors telling you what chiropractic is. So that just put like goosebumps on my arm because what we've done is something substantial. The truth is the truth is the truth and will always be the truth. And that's something that I fell in love with about the narrative of chiropractic because it is philosophy. It is science and it is art. And that's when I wanted you to be on our show because you adjusted me. And I'm like, this guy's an artist. This guy is a technique master. I don't know who he learned from. I don't know what he's doing, but I'm not feeling my best. And this guy just turned my lights on. So I, I, I, you know, I, I do this life because it just makes sense to me. I was 30 years old bartending in Davenport, Iowa. And, um, I thought I was on top of the world and, uh, I was drinking five days a week and, you know, my, my buddy who was going to chiropractic college said, Hey man, I think you're killing yourself. And I was like, Oh yeah, I'm fine. And he's like, no, man, I don't think what you're doing is sustainable, but I think you should come up and help me run my chiropractic office when I open it up. And 16 years ago, that was the trajectory. You can take two paths and the road that led me here is where we are today. And, you know, couldn't be more proud of my decision to stay on and do what I do and to share this message of chiropractic because the world needs it. If they knew what they know, if they knew what we know, they do what we do. and I think that it's a very clear message that we do over here and we have fun with it and if I didn't have fun with it one of my mentors always told me if you don't like what you're don't give yourself a job that sucks yeah he's like don't give yourself work to do that you don't like so now I don't do anything I don't want to do and if you love what you do you never work a day in your life yeah and the other the other side of that is an early mentor of mine um he was my weight trainer when I was 16 years old. He told me this at about 35. He said, Jimmy, just quit taking when everybody gives you and start taking what you want. And my mindset immediately shifted that I stopped doing anything that I didn't think served me or the people that I love the most. And I think that that's a big takeaway for people too, is to understand that the work that I do is out of service. And somebody once told me, if you want to make a million dollars, help a million people. And I think that these things that you ask me about, you know, my conviction a little bit is there's a big why I'm protecting freedom of speech, my backgrounds in journalism, you know, telling the story that doesn't get modified or edited by some bullshit. I thought that that was my integrity stone. Like if I'm going to throw a rock, I'm going to throw it at somebody that changes the narrative of my message. And that's why anybody that censors me or shadow bands me or cancels me. I'm good, man, because the vibrational frequency that we're creating with podcasting, they can't touch it. And the truth always prevails. but if somebody makes you you know make a different decision or think about what you're doing is trying to manipulate you they're trying to they're trying to control you and if you can't think freely and speak freely then you're under the control well i i worked i worked for the newspaper two years after i got out of university i think i might have told the person the stage um i took the longest lunch break in history and i never went back never went back never went back and i just real i just realized that the newspapers were all controlled and contrived right and it was an agenda i wasn't going to be a part of anymore so honestly my family thought i was crazy because i was the first in my family to get a college degree and i stepped away from the whole thing. And I started valet attending and I started delivering pizza and I went in the opposite direction and I started doing all the service industry jobs And I pulled myself out of my educated big boy job and I went into the service industry and just tried to find my way And that when chiropractic saved my life So I think that if you're doing something that's not congruent with your mission and vision, you're going to lay it down and leave. And you're going to find something that fills you up and gives you purpose. So I'm thankful. I'm 47 in two weeks and I'm just really blessed to be a part of this chiropractic family with you. Two more questions. If you could go back and give some advice to your younger self, what would that be? Probably would have traveled more to more docs, more states, maybe more countries. I share a secret that you share and that's I'm dyslexic. I think I wished I would have known that earlier. It held me back from reading more. I've learned how to deal with that. I didn't know it but a few years ago. I think if I could have learned how to do that, that would have been a huge improvement in my life. But I learned different ways. that's that's just a tough question because there's it's just your path you you get to go once and it's hard to go back I do I think I do it all over again honestly I love everything I'm doing I can't come up with anything well I'm so happy to be a chiropractor and do what I do and I I don't come to this office and go shit I I gotta work today like I pull in the parking lot and my mind's just blown. Some days I pull in late for a lunch hour and the parking lot's packed. I'm like, these people are all here for this guy. That is so cool. I just think it's so awesome that you get the opportunity to just walk in and change somebody's life. And I didn't, I wasn't, I mean, I was blessed with the ability to reproduce, but I got it given to me from somebody else, showed me how to do this and I reproduce it. And I'm going to do that for somebody else down the road. I'm going to show them how to, how to do what I do. I have Nick technique. That's what, that's what Nathan Underwood say. You got creasal technique. You just do your own thing. Yeah. But it's a conglomeration of everything I've, I've learned. And I think that, you know, things like this, hopefully some of you get, you know, something out of this, you know, to, to get involved, to have, have your, have your, your values, have your, your belief system, have, Have your purpose, have your thematic goal of where you want to go, what you want to do. Plan it out. It'll happen. Universal intelligence, man. This innate intelligence that's in us, you got to tell it what to do. Ask it. It'll come. Get it. And we were talking earlier about money. I think money is not something I'm going to sit down and talk about, but understanding the value and why we have it. It's a trade for good or services, and we're a service, and we're valuable. you should be making money and you should do something with it so you can do something bigger with it because it's it's not to have a bigger house or a Ferrari or some bullshit that's selfish like do something do something with it grow it do something with it two points on that it's God's money anyways yeah you got to be a good steward of it it's fun tickets man they're just spread out and let's do something with it like it's an opportunity to find what you what you love right i don't know if i'm a downhill skier i never downhill i never skied we didn't do it maybe maybe i'd be damn good i don't know um but if if i spent more money and did more things i think i'd have more experiences and i know what i'd love to do well like your dad said if it doesn't work there's always cows i told him today i was like i don't know dad i don't think it's gonna work out i'm having too much fun because he's giving me shit about going back and he's like how many you got this afternoon like oh there's a whole pile of them let's go and he's just laughing he's like i don't know how you do that i don't know i just i get all jacked up every time i go in like it's game time well you're one of the greatest natural adjusters i've ever met in the past 16 years of me being in this profession and you got quite some gifts out there and i do need to get you connected with dr clint dickinson out here in colorado he's somebody else that's one of the greatest natural adjusters I've ever met in my entire life. And I think it's a gift. I think what you have, what you possess within you is a sacred trust. Guard it well. But I also think that the talent and the art that you possess is a gift and you need to give more of it to more people. And everything that you're doing out there in the world, we need to amplify that. We need to get you onto some stages. We need you to start filling the gaps for these students that need your message. If any of you guys want to come out and spend a day, come. I invite anybody. You can pack these rooms full of people. I don't care. My patients love it. They're used to it. Come. Come. Come hang out. You'll learn something. I'll learn something from you. It's a trade. I welcome you. Well, at this juncture. I always say, come get me. Come. Yeah, it's like Field of Dreams. Build it. Yeah. Oh man, just come, just come out here. We got an airport flying. I'll pick you up. Let's, let's smash some C1s. Let's, let's have a great time. Let's change some lives. Let's get good at it. Let's do it and do it and do it and do it and do it and do it and do it. So, well, it's been a great honor to have you onto the show today. Is there anything I didn't ask you that you want to share with our audience? You know, I just really appreciate you doing this. I'm still kind of in shock that how you developed and how this came to be and then here we are now. Where's it going to go in 20 years? I'm going to ask you that. Where are you going to go in 20 years? Because you got your 10 in. You got 10 more. What's it going to be? I think that that's a good question and a lot of people never flip the script on me and ask me these types of questions and I'm always prepared. I'm always prepared because I played organized soccer for 22 years. And one of my coaches always told me, you're only as good as your last game. And I still believe on it. Leave it all on the field. Go as hard as you can for as long as you can and leave it all on the field. like nobody nobody remembers the the losses they only remember the wins and if you're gonna go out go out as a winner and uh you're only as good as your last game so every time i i come into the field and do what i do whether it's getting new patients or whether it's hosting podcasts or whether it's speaking from a stage it doesn't matter if i'm standing on one leg or knocked down I will always give my best effort. And I think that if people can learn that type of grit and integrity and hustle from me, I will be a cornerstone of this profession moving forward. And in many of my talks, I asked the audience, will they remember you in a hundred years? Because guess what? They'll remember me in a hundred years. And I think that if everybody just lived with that type of conviction, the profession would be stronger and we'd have more people out there that would never give up on protecting the sacred trust. And me not being a chiropractor, I think that the more that we can unify the truth of chiropractic, it becomes a standard. And the standard is falling down around us. I made these notes today. Is evidence-based medicine? Is it evidence-based medicine or medicine-based evidence? That's a good question. And is it clinical medicine or political medicine? And the truth is, is chiropractic doesn't live in either one of those segments of questioning. Chiropractic is a standalone profession. There's no pills, potions, or lotions. It doesn't cut it out, drug it out, or burn it out. It finds it, fixes it, leaves it alone. The body needs nothing extra and it simply needs no interference. And when you start talking about passing boards and clinical competency, the chiropractor that finishes their university of chiropractic education is competent to go out there and serve and protect and to find it, fix it, leave it alone, and adjust the spine. That's what we need. We need less people telling chiropractors how to sanction themselves into a medical evidence-based practice that's failing. It's failing all around us, and we all see it. And here's another takeaway. The AMA is a drug delivery organization, and they own the hospitals, and they own the doctors, and they're run by Big pharma and chiropractic doesn't have a foot in that game. Chiropractic is a standalone profession. It doesn't involve healthcare. It doesn't involve medical services. It is chiropractic done by hand. And if I have anything to say about the future chiropractic, I'm going to help create future leaders that believe that they're good enough, they're talented enough and that we have something special. And if the rest of the world could do it, they would steal it from us, but they can't. And if they could put chiropractic adjustments in a pill bottle, damn well they would, but there's nothing that can ever take the place of a chiropractic adjustment. There's nothing ever going to take the place of detecting, correcting, and adjusting a vertebral subluxation, nothing. so they could try to talk shit to us they could try to belittle us they could try to contain it and eliminate us they could try to put us into the medical mafia arena but chiropractic will always be a standalone profession whether they like it or not chiropractic is winning we'll continue to win and we will be the greatest health product out there for time to come and I'll create more documentaries. I'll teach more people how to get more new patients. I'll speak on bigger stages that aren't chiropractic and I'll influence those people on why it's important to pay attention to innate intelligence, universal intelligence, and the educated intelligence and why philosophy matters more than what they think or what anybody's spoon feeding them through the media. So when you have your philosophical foundation correct, you're clear from subluxation. There's not much else that can touch you, brother. And I've just had my head on straight for a long time now. And people get their head on straight. They see the world through a different lens. And when you see the world from a different lens, you find your voice. When you find your voice, you can light the world on fire with that message. It only takes one person to change a world. Is that going to be you? I don't know. We'll find out. I know you're kicking it though, man. I love it. I mean, it just, just like you said, where, how did your legacy, right? Where's it going to go? How long does it last? How long does it live? Yeah. Well, I'm just finishing writing my first book and, uh, got plenty of speaking engagements lined up for the rest of the year. Proud of you. Yeah, man. Thank you. Thank you from a chiropractor serving our profession and just crushing it. And we're just getting started, brother. I know, but you're, let's keep, keep it going. We're so we're, we love you and we can't thank you enough for being here. Yeah, man. I feel the same about you. That's why we do this. It's a big, it's a big philanthropic give to the world and you can't out give the giver and givers gain. So thanks for being our guests today. Your episode 746 of the Kaira Hustle podcast, Dr. Nick Creasel. um thanks for being our guest um you're a lot of fun a lot of insight and uh look forward to breaking bread with you soon sometime up there in uh the beautiful south dakota let's do it next year it's gonna be good and uh with that being said i'll close out like i always do i tell everybody you guys are just one story away keep hustling i'll see you guys on next episode bye for now. See you, Doc. Thanks. Thanks for listening to Cairo Hustle. Don't forget to subscribe and check back next week to continue hustling.