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So I understand that you did an AI experiment Is that right Yes that right Several but yeah Several So tell us what you did because it involved what you do You made like 40 albums in a month and 125 eBooks Right. So that's the most recent one is the albums. I used a program called Suno, which is an AI audio generator where you type in what you want. You know, you describe in a prompt the type of music you want, and you can enter lyrics or, you know, style information. And then you wait a few seconds and it generates some alternatives. So I use that and I just tried to see like how far I could push the technology and what I could kind of create as a single artist within a short defined span of time. And what I was able to come up with was 40 full length albums in a month. Were they good? I think that some of them are highly listenable. Of course, a lot of it is instrumental music. So when you listen to it, you don't immediately know, oh, this is AI because, you know, there's not a human voice in all of them. That's kind of a giveaway. And some of it is interesting. You know, like I've come back to it months later and listened through on random doing work and other stuff. And I've been like, oh, this is cool. Like, you know, almost when I hear it, I'm like, who made this, you know? And it's the same thing that I kind of tried to do with books before that. I spent a year kind of working on 125 e-books that they take place in kind of like a parallel universe where AIs have basically taken over human society, which is not such a stretch. And for each book, they kind of like interlink to the other books. So like if you start reading one book and you find a topic that you find interesting, you can kind of click through and then go check out that other book and then kind of hop around throughout the narrative universe, like a sort of a choose-your-own-adventure kind of story. So what prompted, no pun intended, you to do all this? That was a good joke. Thank you. Well, so I've just been, you know, I've had kind of two strands in my life. One is working as an artist and a musician and an author for a really long time on my own. And the other is working in technology for platforms and doing things like content moderation and working in policy and working in kind of the side of technology where things can go wrong, you know, like when people abuse or misuse platforms to do things that they shouldn't do. So I'm always kind of on the lookout for what are the new technologies and what can be done with them both on the good side as an artist, but then also on the bad side, like how do people misuse this? And what are the pitfalls? And what are the strengths and weaknesses of all these new things? So I've always kind of taken my art, and any time interesting new technology comes out, I just jump on it and I start kind of plugging in my world, you know, my universe, and just see what comes out the other side. And a lot of times I find, you know, very good and interesting results, and then I find things that are not so good. And I try to talk about those two equally because they mixed You know we can just separate one from the other We can have the good and not have the bad two They come together So you have 40 albums 120 books What are you doing with them Are you trying to make money with them I mean, I've put them up, you know, on streaming platforms for the albums, and people can listen to them, you know, on YouTube or whatever. You can listen for free. There's no payment required. For the books, I sell those through a website called Gumroad that it just lets me control everything kind of in my own little storefront, easily. I don't put them on Amazon because I don't want to get mixed up in the Amazon world. And, you know, people who know me, who know my work, they can come and check them out. And I'm not, I'm not like competing with, you know, other authors on Amazon or whatever. How much money have you made at it? I've made, I think, a little over $3,000 in the past few years with it. It's not a huge amount, But when you look at just as, you know, the initial outlay of time and subscription fees for it's not it's not paying for itself. Yeah. And then, you know, over over time, you know, once I'm done, they keep they keep earning. You know, like every time I'm I appear on something or there's an article about my work, you know, I sell a few more. And so over time, they they they accrue in the background. But I'm not I'm not focused on them. You know, I'm not really on social media. I'm not out there hawking my wares all the time. But, you know, that's what most people, I think, are using AI for now. It's to make, like, little videos or to make images and put them on social media. And, you know, I think it's AI tools kind of they show us something interesting about social media. And that social media already, even without AI, is kind of inhuman. You know, it's kind of like it requires you to be always on, always putting out sort of like this image of yourself, your life, you know, or how you see the world. And what AI does is it lets people kind of step back and automate that. And I'm not so sure that that's good because I'm not really – I don't like social media for that reason. Well, you know, and then you've got – I don't know if you heard about this, but Meta filed a patent that after you die, your AI will keep posting for you. No, I haven't heard of that, but I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, excuse me. I mean, I mean, is it going to repost something like a private conversation that I had that, oh, you know, I can't stand Andrew Babinski. And then I'm gone. It puts up and goes, Kim said Andrew Babinski. I can't believe dead Kim likes that post. That's so embarrassing. But let me ask you a tip. Let me ask you a question. So you're you are an artist. Okay, so when I look at these tools like Sono or Dolly or whatever it may be, my brain does not work on that platform. It doesn't. I mean, it's just I can't play any musical instrument, can't carry a tune, can't sing, can't do anything like that. Does AI help your creativity? Is it real art or does it take away? No, it absolutely helps. I mean it for the kind of scale of world building and creating stories and narratives and kind of all these different artifacts that link to each other I would never be able to do that kind of work at that scale without AI That something that without those tools that kind of work for me just wouldn exist I simply wouldn't have the time to make, for the albums, it's a total of 820 songs. Wow, that's a lot. Yeah, it would take me an infinite amount of time to come up with all that. And some people think that that's bad. Okay, fine, I respect that opinion. But at the same time, if I can push into new territories and make new experiments and test things out in ways that I've never done before and maybe other people haven't done before, I think there's a lot of value in that. And what I've seen as an artist, I've studied a lot of art history, and every time that there are new technologies that come out, there is always backlash from the established kind of order, the old guard, the academy, even things like impressionist painting. or when photography came out or when synthesizers came out in music. There was always a backlash from the people who were established and successful in the old medium, and then the new thing came along and they felt threatened because their work became viewed or valued differently. So I think what's happening now with AI, there's zero difference for me in what I've seen historically over the past 200, 300 years in art history. So I think what always happens with the new technologies is it lets people make new things that just simply couldn't exist before. Just real quick, real quick, with the 40 albums that you've put up, have any of them connected with people? Is there any one album that's gotten a lot of listens that you sat back and looked at the numbers and went, wow, that's surprising? No, I haven't had any huge commercial success with the music stuff. It's just been an experiment for me. The thing that's interesting for me is that the music artifacts kind of also start to interlink with the narrative books, and there's references between all those worlds. So I think for me, it might be that it happens down the road, that someone discovers one of those things, and it suddenly clicks for them, and then they start to kind of jump into the different artifacts. I've seen with my books, for example, where because I'm selling it on a website where I can kind of track a little bit who buys it or I can at least see if one person is buying more than one because I get an email address. I've had one person come back and buy 40 different books out of 125. So there's your audience right there. Yeah, just find a billion of those and you'll be super rich. But, you know, Tim, it's a great experiment. It's interesting. And if you have any interest in creating any type of music or e-books, use Sono. You can use any of the AI chatbots. And in case you want to look up Tim, his last name is Boucher. Tim Boucher. And Tim, if you ever decide to turn those 120 books into 120 movies, you already have the soundtracks. That's true. So we're already made. We're all set. Hey, want to stay in the tech now without wasting your time? 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