Astronaut Butch Wilmore Needs Brain Scans of Uncle Si After This

He's excited. Oh, yeah, I am excited. Should we start? Yeah, we start. Five, four, three, two, one. Podcast. We've got a guest. Okay. He's a M50. What is the F18, sir? A7's an F15. Okay. Pilot. And he was so good at that. What did he do next? He was so good at that. I said, Hey, look, we want to put you in a rocket ship and see you outer space. There we go. So he, truth be told, that's not exactly how it goes, but okay, we'll go with that. We have got astronaut Butch Wilmore in studio with us today. That's right. That's right. And we're fired up about it. This is so weird. They just did everything I normally do. I'm not real sure why I'm here. I was at size house last night. Oh, you're here to make me look good. I make everybody sit right there with little good. Nobody needs to make you look good. I didn't mean it that way. I'm just saying, you're bringing up the bar. I've already thanked this veteran for his service. Okay. Because what you thought in Iraq? Yes, sir. I was in Germany at the time, you know, and I shipped. Okay. Me and the guy, we shipped seventh core with everything they had in Germany. Yeah. Okay. And guess what? We, the one thing we run out of it could get enough of was wood. Wood. No kidding. Not a lot of wood in the desert. All right. Look, plywood, foam board, all this stuff, all this stuff that you got to put on to lock everything down on the train to ship it somewhere. We have an astronaut and you're talking about lumber. Well, no, no, we got an astronaut. We talking about Iraq. Well, I know what Iraq looks like. You can't have a. We got top guard in the house, baby. Okay. This ain't a movie. This is real life. I know what Iraq looks like. I've seen Fox News. Let's talk about space, man. United States of space. Now, my question is how fast does that rocket go? Oh, it goes faster than that. About anything goes. When you're coming back to earth, I mean, you're traveling like, like, like what said, 25,000 miles an hour, roughly. Yeah. You're, you're, you're, you're moving five miles a second. I don't like to go, I don't like to go to Texas because the speed limits 80 some places and it makes me uncomfortable. When top guard will say, hey, I got, I have the need for speed. Yeah. Five miles a second. They wouldn't, they wouldn't kid when they said I have the needs for speed. That's true. You orbit the planet every 90 minutes. You know, the circumference of the earth is 25,000 miles at 17,500 miles an hour, which is what your orbiting speed is. Yeah. Five miles a second. That's so you've been up there. Is this earth round? You know, we got a few conspiracy theories we need to bump to the math. 464 days in space, 16 orbits, 16 sunrises, sunsets a day. So 16 orbits a day, every thing at 7,424 times around the planet. And every single time I went around the planet, it was round. Wait, hold on. What flat a single time? Not one. You did that math way too fast. You've been around the planet 724. 7,424 times. 7,400. Either, my mind is blown. That's a pretty good clue. That's a lot of time off the planet. I have to ask, what did, when you got up there and was looking around, what was your feeling? Let me tell you that story because I think it's interesting. So I'm in the right seat of the space shuttle, my first launch, and you lay on your back for three hours roughly before you actually like the candle and start heading up. You call it a candle. You're really trying to romanticize a big explosion under your rear end. Of course. That's cool. We're lighting the candle. Light the candle and all of a sudden you're laying on your back one G and all of a sudden you have almost two G's immediately and you start accelerating. And I'm in the right front seat of the space shuttle, light blue sky, and it just gets dark. Actually, first we go through a cloud, straight up through a cloud. It comes closer, closer, closer. As it gets close, the light from the solid rocket boosters, the big orange, you know, that's putting out a lot of flame, the whole cloud goes orange for like a second. And then we poof right through it. So that's the first kind of visual that I'm experiencing. And then you go through and the light blue sky gets darker and darker and darker and darker until it's black. I mean, pretty, pretty amazing. We get to space. I'm still strapped in. I just got queasy. Yeah. I get to space. I'm still strapped in and I look over my left shoulder and Mike Foreman, who was down on the mid deck below, comes levitating up through the hatch where there's a ladder. You know, we always climb the ladder, but you don't need a ladder in space. He just levitates up. Weirdest thing I'd ever seen. I mean, I've seen it on video, people floating with my own eyes. But now you're in space. Now I'm in space and I'm feeling I'm still strapped in because I got about two hours of work with the commander. I'm the pilot. And so as we continue, we got the, you got to maintain your attitude. So you got reaction control thrusters that are firing to maintain the attitude. And initially, those thrusters fire at 870 pounds of thrust. Those are the primaries. Eventually you go to veneers, which just maintain the attitude. They're 24. You don't even feel them. But initially, these big orange blasts out the front, right out the window. And then when you separate from the external tank, I'm assuming that you understand what the shuttle looks like. The shuttle separates from the external tank. A lot of water vapor separates because it's got condensation on outside of the tank and it turns to ice. And so there's thousands of what looks like diamonds illuminated by the sun that's behind us. I bet it's beautiful. I mean diamonds and these orange flash just just put yourself there. I mean, that's that was my first experience of space. Filling the weightlessness, seeing these explosions going off at my feet and these orange blasts out the window, thousands of diamonds illuminated by the sun behind us. It was it was amazing. And my thought thought honestly was Lord, why me? Because who would have loved to been in that seat? Millions of people loved it, but the Lord allowed me to be in it. So why me? Martin said, not me. No, no, no. We're all wired different. Like I said, now if you could drop me off up here, you can go to the violence. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, you got to take the ride. You got to take the ride. He was telling me everything he saw on the way up. You know what I'd have seen? Nothing. My eyes would have been. No, no, because what he just said to me, I ask people every time, okay, rainbows. Okay, so look, I'm going to the museum of our gravy seal in Orlando, Florida. Okay, so look, when I get it strapped in my seat belt, okay, you know, I always see a prayer. And as I say, now we go, we can't hard he was praying. No, no, we're going up. You only go 36,000. Hey, I didn't know it, but that's the time when he leveled off is 28,000 feet. Okay, so look, I'm sitting there and I look outside my window and the white cloud is level right below my window. So all I see is just the white cloud. But then I look and there is a circular rainbow right outside my window. I've heard that. Yeah. And I'm going, wait a minute, there's only one thing up here that's circular. That's the jet engine below the wing, which is below me, which I can't see because of the cloud. So I'm looking and saying, what in the world is, how is this happening? And look, it did not leave rat windows, okay, until we landed when we descended to go down to land. It stayed with us the whole trip, which was about three hours. Wow. And I'm looking at this and going, but when I landed, Bridget Mosher was there because we was doing a singing gig with my band. It's a longer story. Bridget, this is going to be a fabulous time. Because, hey, I said a rainbow rode with me all the way here. There's a rainbow in space. Something was putting that water vapor and the angle of the sun was just right. That's what it was. Yeah, but for it to be circular? Yeah, I've got a video actually on my phone. I probably took me forever to find it, flying a T38 and the cloud, the reflection of the shadow from the sun on the cloud, and there's a rainbow all the way around it as I'm going, as I'm flying because that angle was just right. 46 degrees or something like that. Oh yeah, it's amazing. You're right. It's amazing. That's insane. But you're a way bigger nerd than people give you credit for. I can appreciate that. That's the part of this I find the most fascinating. The way you calculated all that math fast. I was like, you don't fly planes that look like they're from the movies without being good at math. He said T38. I said I might as well look at a picture. Do you maverick or goose? Yeah. Oh, I'm definitely McMaverick. That's the best leader. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. I've got chills. That's awesome. It leaves me speechless. Okay. So you did the aircraft carrier stuff too. Oh yeah. Yeah. Now that's a ride too, ain't it? On and off that thing? That's why I wore this. This is the foundation of my professional life. I got out of college, had electrical engineering, and I thought, yeah, I need to serve my country. Bring a sprung, you get home, times change, you're starving, you got something healthy to eat in the pantry that you could cook, but who has got the time? And that's where our friends over at Factor come in because they have chef crafted meals delivered straight to your door so I can hit my nutrition goals without grocery runs and cooking. And their app is fantastic. 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I have a bit for the Lord's glory, everything commercial flight though is pretty boring for you. I'm not a big fan. Maybe you get, it's an, it's an, it's an, it's an evil though. They ever let you drive? He just walked up there. I tell you, I, why don't y'all get out the way? I think I know what I'm doing. And we about to get there a little bit quicker. Yeah. I tell you what, if I ever get on a flight and he's on it, I'm going to feel so good about, we got backup, bro. People ask me all the time, could you fly that? I'm like, well, is it got a throttle in the stick? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, but he can auto pilot. He can't do the things he did to them 16 in that, in that, in that, let's clarify that. F16s Air Force, that's F18. Let's wait for it. Hey, I know Air Force up in here. No. It's the United States Navy. Yeah, there you go. There you go. We salute. So, when I was 16, when I was wanting to enter the Navy, I had an air, a jet in my mind's eye. I didn't know what it was because I didn't know anything about anything military. It was an F16. That was the airplane, the jet that I saw in my mind's eyes. I was, you know, thinking about what I wanted to do. Yeah, that's cool, man. It is. That's no believable. They ain't got a word for what he does. Cool. Don't cut it. No, I know, but I mean, it's, you've probably gone faster, like, than what? Every human being, but maybe like three? Well, there's, there's, you know, if you, if you flew the space shuttle, you went 25,000 on the return is when you get your speed because the earth gravitational pull is pulling you back 25,000 miles. Yeah. So, you're saying five miles a second, 25,000. Yeah. Feet per, yeah, you're moving five miles a second. So there's a lot of people, not a lot. I mean, that's amazing. Because the earth rotates at what? Well, it's worth one time around every 24 hours. Well, I know, but hey, Oh, that's the That it's called today. Yeah. It's about 25,000. You know, because they, you know, they tell me they said, Hey, you were actually going like, Oh, so many miles. You know, when you could, because there's a speed at the equator, you're traveling just over a thousand miles an hour. You know, and I said, boys, here's what's, here's what's the amazing part of it. I said, you know where I was at in about 90% of it? I was either in the bed or my recliner. And I said, right, this is the millions of miles that I've traveled. And they're out here in this chair. So I said, and I didn't even feel the cheese pulling me. I never even thought of it. You're right. We are moving. Well, hey, you gotta quit. I ain't got no sense. You've never thought about it. That's all put it in perspective. Indeed. So, so as someone who's seen all that, done all that, been to space, come back to the earth, and you've kind of hinted at, I believe you believe in greater power. That wasn't all by accident. You don't think all this just popped up, huh? Absolutely not. No, God's word is absolutely true. The Bible is, is foundational to who I am. It's foundational to everything. It's foundational to creation. It's foundational to the purpose of life. It's foundational to everything. It is without air. It's an errant and it's, and it's completely, it's all we need. So you don't think this whole thing could have just popped out of nowhere? Didn't happen. Had to have a creator. Here's the question of the day. Uh-oh. What? No, no. I've got to ask you. I'm sorry, I don't know what this is. What have you done? Okay. And who you believe in? What did you think about this stupid human race? Oh, wow. What do you think about it? God in, in, in, I don't know how he still, still going to play with it. In eternity past, he determined, let me give you one sentence summary of the Bible. You ever heard of one sentence summary of the Bible? I'm excited. Here we go. Before the foundation of the world, God the Father determined to present God the Son with a redeemed humanity that would honor, worship and glorify him for all eternity. In one sentence, that's a summary of the Bible. Because what God did is he created what all of creation for the purpose of calling out a humanity that would honor, worship and glorify the Son forever. And that's, you know, if you're a believer, if you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, you're forgiven of your sin, then he, we, you are a part of a love gift from God the Father, God the Son. That's, that's a, so we have purpose. There's our purpose. Here's the point that our hammer home. Okay. Hey, quit trying to, to make it on your own. Amen. You can't do it. No, you can't. That's why, hey, that's why God gave it to you as a guilt. Amen. With no strings attached. We can't earn it. We can't, we can't get it. It's by grace. It's based by grace through faith alone. And he never promised us that this life would be easy. And speaking of not easy. Oh, let's talk about that real quick. You went, okay, real quick. Because you went through something that sounds really hard. Just think about it. God's word is true, right? Matthew 7, 13 and 14, the wide and narrow gates. The wide gate is the gate that everybody's on that leads to destruction. The narrow gate is the narrow gate where you have to leave your sin behind, repent, do all those things, and it leads to life. But think about what it also says. It says the wide gate is the easy gate. The narrow gate is the hard gate. And the reason it's hard is because as believers, you have a great responsibility. And that makes life not hard in a hard, difficult, bad way, but hard in a God honoring way. It's not easy to live. That's why when the verse says, hey, without faith, you can never please God. Can never please him. Exactly. Now that statement makes a lot more sense. Does indeed. Does indeed. But we got theological real quick, didn't we? Yeah. We kind of circle back and forth on it. Yeah. We'll dive in. Okay, to the duck call room. We go hard on Jesus. Then we're like, hey, have you ever been to Epcot Road Mission Space? And is that close to the real thing? Yeah. That's a serious question. It's not close. It simulates as good as you can with gravitational forces, but it's... You have ridden it? I have. I have. How cool would that be to be the little kid in the stranger next to you that's actual? Oh, no. Oh, hey, when you say kid, you said right. Yes, I am a child. Hey, no, I'm still a child. Okay, I refuse to grow up. That's one of the problems I had with military. That is true. Okay. Well, and I was going into the hard times thing because your story is fascinating because you did all this awesome stuff and then your last flight was a bit delayed on the return. It was. Yeah, we got... Well, I would say it's more than a bit delayed. It was quite delayed. Stranded? Hey, you went up there thinking how long? Less than two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks. And you stayed for how long? 286 days. Holy... How much? 286. Yeah, almost 10 months. Nine and a half months. Yeah, it was... How does that affect your psyche? He could have had a kid. Oh, no. No. You gotta go back to what we were saying before. God's word is true. It's absolutely true because of... I'm a... Because the Lord has saved me. I didn't do anything. I didn't deserve it. I'm a wretched sinner saved by grace. He saved me. Because of that, it breeds absolute contentment in all situations. Not that you don't get concerned, but content. No, no, no. Paul says it best when he said, I've learned. So, in whatever I find myself in, I've learned about... Think about Paul. I've got you mentioned that. Five times he was beaten with a whip. 40 lashes minus one. Five times. Beaten with a rod three times. He was stoned and left for dead. A day and a night. Shipwreck, day and night in the sea. And through it all, he says, like you just mentioned, I am content. And he wasn't like, give me another lash. That's not content. He's like, yeah, give me another lash, Lord. It's not that. It means in those situations, because he knew he was in the center of the Lord's will, he was fully content. And that's... I take strength in that. Because most people don't realize, you know, Jesus came, he left heaven and came to this earth with two things. He was full of grace and truth. Amen. Now, that's just having this little discussion. Remind me how important that statement is. It is. And like the book of John, if you read through the book of John and you mark it, he says, truly, truly, I say unto you, this is true. He says it like 40 times. He's emphasizing this is true. There's a deception everywhere. This is true. This is true. This is truly, truly. And so he got... Hey, be in the storyteller. I have to say that a lot. Because they're not... Oh, no. He really was stuck in his face. Yeah, I know. But I'm making a point here, though. Because if you get to be in a storyteller, okay, they always... I hear it hard. He's lying again. It's kind of like politicians. If you're livin' to move in your life. Well, that's because you said that the Vietnamese stole the tires off your moving vehicle. And he says the thrusters went out on his spaceship while he was in space. Things happen. Okay. How are we even comparing those two? No, no, no. That's why I brought up the verse, okay? Without faith, you cannot please the father. That's true. And we have that faith in five stories. Amen. Hey, if you hear something and you don't believe it, whoa, whoa, unto you. Okay? Oh, man. Y'all know, Nutriphal has been with us for a while. Now, a long, a long enough to get Brittany from a postpartum hair care routine to now she's graduated to the Women's Corps for women over 45. Look, my sister's on it. Philip's on it. Christine's on it. Philip's wife's on it. 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Yeah, I knew, I knew before we ever docked because of what we lost five thrusters, five of our, we have eight aft firing thrusters. And during the course of the evolution, we lost five of them. And knowing how difficult it is to understand the problem, completely bound the problem to where you feel comfortable enough to get back in before we ever docked. So there's a couple of things I thought. First off, we have to dock because I'm on the controls. It is not easy to maintain control. It's very challenging. I'm using every bit of experience and in the book stuck in space. I mean, I deal tell the, how the Lord used experience to bring me this, this experience prefers you for the next, prefer you to just like in the life of Joseph, right? So, and it details in life in the book here about that and leading up to that. So I'm on the controls, very difficult to control. We have to dock. If we don't dock, I don't think we can, at least in the condition we are not knowing why we're losing the thrusters. I don't see how I can maneuver the spacecraft to get to a point where we can do a deorbit burn and return to earth. So that's why we have to dock in the moment, right? And then also in that thought process to your point, if we do dock, I don't think we're coming home in this spacecraft. Even before we docked, it was obvious to me that it would be very challenging. How can we bound the problem? Because you can't do a spacewalk and go out and inspect the thrusters. They're not made that way. So there's, you, how do you bound the problem? I thought, but there's no way. So when it was three months, we were on space station three months before the final decision was made not to return on the spacecraft. But about a month then, because of what I already knew, I told my family, I said, Hey, the most likely scenario is, you know, we don't, we don't make it back until probably 2025. And this was July of 2024 at the time. So that was six months away. And that's the most likely scenario. And as it played out, we were probably would have been up a full year. It would have been June when we got back of 2025. But powers it be, the administration got involved and swapped some spacecraft on the ground, processing that was taking place of the SpaceX Dragon and launched one in March, which means we were able to come back in March and advice all the way till June. So anyway, that's the thought process. And it turns out we shouldn't have been on the spacecraft. I mean, getting on that spacecraft, it did have some issues coming back. It made it back, but it still had issues and us being on it would not have been a good thing with the issues that they had. So staying up was the right call. That's unbelievable. It is. It is. I mean, it's, there's never been in the history of human spaceflight in the scenario of flying in space, where you've been unable to control all six degrees of freedom. You got pitch, roll, and yaw, that's attitude, right? And then you got translation forward and aft, up and down, left and right. That's translation three degrees. So I put those together at six degrees of freedom. That's six degrees of freedom, right? And so never in the history of human spaceflight have we not been able to control all six degrees of freedom. And we were in that position. And you still land there docked? Well, over the course of time, we were able to get a couple of thrusters back, which enabled us to get to the position where we could dock. And that's the ground teams, everybody working together. So that's one of the things when I said, you know, you just, you step on the rocket, go up. Okay. And there's so many things that can go wrong. Don't many can. And you're up there and hey, there ain't nobody coming to help. You don't call an Uber driver to come here. Triple A don't make it there, y'all. You have to deal with the situations as they arise. You're right. And this one was a challenge you won by God's grace. We were able to deal with it. And ultimately, it turned out for good. And I think it turns out for good even for future spacecraft, because the lessons that we learned now the classification has been a type A mishap, which is the same level of mishap as the Challenger accident and also the Columbia tragedy. So that's the same level. And it should be, because we survived. Yes. But we survive because of intense preparation by us and the crew, and also intense preparation by the ground, working together to avert catastrophe. Pay him effort. It was just you and one other, right? Yeah, it was just me and Sunny Williams. Yeah, okay. In the spacecraft. Was she a believer? You know, Sunny has her own belief. I would love to share the full gospel with her and challenge her on that, but maybe one day we'll have that opportunity. Oh yeah. Well, I'll share at some point up there in 200 and something days, she probably got a pretty good feel for it. I've only known you for about 20 seconds and I feel like it comes oozing out of you pretty quick. Yeah, I think things like this would actually change what you think about stuff. Well, you know, Si, the Lord's got to work in your heart, right? Oh, no, no, because that's why I'd ask you about, you know, I'm actually speechless because this is so, this is why, yeah, no, no, this is good. Can I ask a really, really just dumb question? There are no dumb questions. Did you say Houston? We have a problem. I just, I feel like I would have, but I also wouldn't be invited on a spaceship. I did not say that, but I know everybody was thinking it. Yeah, there was no need to say it. Matter of fact, the communication was minimal. Okay. They knew we had our hands full and I knew they were working the problem to try to try to rectify it. So I didn't say a lot to them about what was taking place and they didn't say a lot to us either. Okay. They just said, Hey, do this. And I'm like, that's really hard to do in the condition where I'll try. That's why I asked the question when you got up there, how did you actually feel? You know, I think I would have felt just isolated and totally alone. No, you prepare yourself mentally, you realize, realizing, Si, again, I go back to it's a privilege to serve regardless of what situation you want. You've you find yourself in because you know that you're serving a country that may not be Christian in that follows all what God's word says, but it's based on those principles. And ultimately, what's the role of a government? Romans 13, it's to protect and dis disway evil. That's what our government is called to do. And our government does that. And that's why I wear this jacket with pride in these, you know, Navy wings of gold with pride, because we dispel evil around the globe. That's what we do. We don't we're not aggressors. We don't go out and take stuff. We dispel evil. And and that policing type role is God has mandated. And that's why I support our nation. And all of it's our national endeavors are along those lines, including our space fair and being spacefaring nations. I mean, geopolitical, I mean, a nation that can go to space regularly, go to the moon, do those type of things shows power and shows restraint for evil. Ultimately, that's what governments are called to do. We get focused on things that really are are important. But, you know, Christ and he and he and he has and Jesus Christ, our Lord is everything, everything else pales in comparison. Important skills, but pales in comparison. I've been sitting here thinking about how big of a panzi, I was for griping about being out of power for six. This guy had power on the International Space Station, sir. We were cold. I'm joking. I'm just sitting there thinking like, God, I was miserable sitting here. How big is the International Space Station? So the habitable volume, think about, say, six buses connected Indian the habitable volume. It's fairly large. I mean, you're in six buses for roughly nine months for nine and a half months. Yeah. But I mean, it's enclosed. But hey, let me tell you something. The view, there it is. There's the cupola right there. Yeah. The view is spectacular. And it's and you're traveling 17,500 miles an hour around the planet. You already every 90 minutes and the planet is rotating under you. So you get a different view every time you go around. It's it's mesmerizing. It's amazing. Yeah, never the same view. Amazing. Amazing. I mean, thrilling. And the auroras, oh my, the northern southern Aurora, the power most powerful they've been in decades. Just just just beautiful. I really like Google Maps too. So I bet that would be well, were you like, oh, look, there's Murphy's. That's where I'm from. You better not miss it. You better not blink. You're going by. You only got to wait 90 minutes. Yeah, it'd be bad. As a parent, you want to provide for your family. And that does it just mean right now. It means making sure that they're taking care of down the road to and we all know life insurance isn't exactly a fun conversation, but it's one that you got to have. But ethos makes that easy. Look, every day you take steps to ensure your family safety, right? Feet belts, car seats, gun safes, medicine, house alarms, like you name it. There are steps you've put in every day to take care of your family and life insurance is just another one of those steps. And ethos makes getting life insurance fast and easy because you know what? It's 100% online. Look, you can get a quote in seconds, apply in minutes and get same day coverage. There's no medical exam. 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That's right there is reason I believe in God. You got honeybee socks on. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at these. This sucker. Those are solid. Those are solid. Why are they so long? How far do they go? Yeah. You've got a key, Malaysia on socks on. I have become famous because of socks. My wife went to a stock in Portia, okay, involved me about 40 pair of them. I didn't know she opted for the knee. Hey, everybody in the world now is sending me socks. I was just laughing that they were like a bumblebee color. I had no idea they went to your knees. Oh, hey, for those listening, he showed his socks and his pant leg just kept going up and up. Me and bumblebees go way back. Oh, I know. Bumblebees. I know. I got, I got doubt. You're looking at that after when they're looking at earth. Did you ever look the other way? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you see anything cool come flying by out there? Well, I tell you what's really cool. I tell you what's cool looking down, seeing shooting stars below you because the atmosphere is below you. Yeah. And that's pretty amazing. That's, that's, I mean, it's, and then you're here today, which is a, we're going back to the moon today. We are today's launch. Hopefully, hopefully. Yeah, they're supposed to go out to the service. They're going around the moon. See, I never know what I thought it was April Fool's joke. No, hey, you need a 12 year old son named Carter. He will inform you. I saw that post this morning, but I just was waiting for the April Fool's part. No, no, they're going back to everybody else. And it's the first time since the 70s. Yeah. 524 Central is the launch time. Yep. First time since, it's 54 years since we've been to the moon. Where are they launching from? Kennedy Space Center. Florida, baby. I should have stayed in Fort Myers. Yeah. You were just there? Yeah. Yeah, Reed Wiseman, the commander and I did a space walk together in 2014 when we were on the space station together. So he's in, he's, your friend is in the, yeah. And Victor, Victor Glover, both Reed and Victor are also naval aviators. I've known Victor for decades as well. This is insane. It just hit me what you said about, okay, you normally are looking up at the stars. Yeah. I was looking down. You was looking down on them. Down on shooting stars. Shooting stars. Yeah, shooting stars. But the stars, you get above the atmosphere. I mean, they're more brilliant colors. There's obviously, you can see more stars because the atmosphere kind of hides some of them, unless you're in a very clear day. And it's just, it's just mesmerizing, truly mesmerizing. Especially when you think, what is it? In Genesis, we're in creation, he said, and he created the stars also. And then Psalm 147, four, I mean, there's gazillions. We can't even count the stars. And it says, God created everyone and knows them all by name. I mean, goodness, that's, that's a powerful, if there's a few of them up there, boys, as I few of them indeed, a few, certainly more than two. Think about this. You look into a piece of sky like the size of the moon. Just looking to a piece of sky. And the Hubble Space Telescope did that. And it came down with an ultra high definition photo, I think that's what it's called. And basically, as it's orbiting the Earth, it would look at that piece of sky. And over the course of like 13 years, it would open its lens and take in light. And it did like 13 days total taking like something like that. Anyway, when they got the picture, there's billions of galaxies, which have trillions of stars in this one little piece of sky. And think about this, you count to a trillion one number per second. Guess how long it takes you to count to one trillion? 31,709 years to count to one trillion. And there's trillions and trillions in this one little piece of sky. Think about that as far as the magnitude of our God and creation of all things. Oh, my, oh, my, what you went through as a human go in the space flying the f 16 and all these 18. Hey, some respect on this man's name. I was a simple man. We're gonna start playing danger zone in here. Is there a pretty Pretty good rivalry between y'all and the Air Force. There he is. Just think about this. Oh yeah. The four greatest songs ever made. How great thou art. Amazing grace. It is well with my soul and danger zone. Right? Do you agree? Wait a minute. I'm not lying to you. You got me with the three. No, no, listen to this. The danger zone got me screwed up. This is a true story. I was talking to Hunter. I was reading your Wikipedia page because we're great researchers here. And I said, I was reading some of your stuff. I was like, this dude's like danger zone and I get up and I walk out. And then my phone heard me and just started playing. Is that right? It is dialed up right now. One of the fourth greatest songs ever made. The D4. Number four. Number four. This is amazing. Size. No, this is playing in my head right now. It's gunships in Vietnam. Oh my. And hey, and we got the rock and roll music on, baby. I was like, what are you thinking of? A fortunate son and four is gone. Oh, this is unbelievable. Oh my. I know where we got to go from here. I knew this was going to be good. I'm going to ask it. Because there's certain people, probably Hunter, definitely not me. What would you say to people that look at NASA and say, did we really go to the moon? Did we really go to the moon? Yeah. In your opinion. He just said, yeah. So think about this. More than 400,000 people worked on the lunar program back in the 60s and 70s. 400,000. Not one single person came forward and said it was not real. OK. Every, I mean, yes, we went to the moon. We absolutely did. But I understand why people will be skeptical. Because trust is everything. It's absolutely everything. And governments have lied. Right. And you lose trust. And you lose trust. And because of that, when you have something as grandiose as this and the reason, you know, the Cold War and beating the Russians and all that, I can understand why people would be skeptical. Well, I can tell you we did. We absolutely went to the moon. My 12-year-old. I always kidded everybody about there's an area 51. And that's that's where they shoot all this stuff about going to learn this stuff. There is an area 51, but they're not shooting. Have you been there? I can either confirm nor deny. Yeah, he's been there. Hey, he's under all stuff. He's been there. He's flown air patrol over the top of it. I can neither confirm nor deny. He's got a top secret clearance. He cannot discuss. Yes, that's crazy. Whenever I'm asked. That's when you go pick up that jacket. You don't get that jacket. You don't get that jacket. That's where the ceremony is. Like, we're going to give away a green jacket and a Gusta. You want that jacket. You got to go to area 51. Oh, my. That's about this. This is amazing. My son has a different answer when I say to get that jacket. You've got to serve. I'm into that. Well, yeah, and serve a lot. Yeah, but my answer was funnier. Well, I'm just kidding. Yeah, my 12 year old who loves all things NASA and space and stuff. If I tell him, I was like, are you sure we landed on the moon? He'll go, dad, read a book. His answers. And I'm also like, dang, he's probably right. Oh, we did. We absolutely went for that. I just I struggle with it sometimes because it's 2026 and I still got places where I don't have cell phone service. But we're having a movie. So I went to NASA like three or four years ago and they're like, we're going back. And there was all this stuff. I was like, OK, I'm in on this. And now it's today. It's just today. Lord will and Lord will. Wilmore is here in the flesh. Yeah, Lord will it. Yeah, man. That's cool. Unbelievable. All right. So space movies. Oh, no doubt. Number one. Yes. Without question. And I'll tell you why. Rogue One. The reason. Hunter, Hunter loves movies. Let me tell you. Rogue. The reason. Think about it. Rogue One, the visuals. It starts out with a spacecraft coming through the rings of Saturn. I mean, that's that's the first scene. And then it goes from there. And as you go through the process of the movie, what happens? Absolutely, everybody dies. Everybody. This is true. Now, it's not a better movie ever made. It is amazing. Hunter, we win, man. It is amazing. We win today. I thought he was going to say Armageddon. No. He went so much cooler. You used to. I thought he was going to say October Sky. October Sky. I would love to know what that planet looks like. So would I. So would I. I've got a video. I was like, hey, weather is so bad up there, OK, that you can't see nothing. It's all cloudy. So he just casually dropped that he has a video on his phone of flying by Jupiter. Saturn. Saturn. Sorry. I got jumpers there, too. I felt like there's a Uranus joke. Now, I didn't fly by. These are other space. Oh, OK. I wasn't on them. We don't know that. Since you're way closer, can you see them better? Hey, I know about what he's talking about. We're not that close. I'm never getting. Hey, they've had that on TV about that it went by. Yeah. OK. And they took pictures of PBS, baby. Amen. Look, sometimes you get so familiar with something. It's easy to take it for granted to forget what it actually costs. Y'all know that we believe the story of Easter is the most beautiful story ever told. And we definitely don't want to cruise past the importance of what Jesus did that day. So what if this year you slowed down and considered the crucifixion from a new perspective? That's actually the idea behind Tim Tebow's new book If the Tree Could Speak. 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So we rehydrate a lot of it. OK. Brussels sprouts, you name it. Oh, OK. That's after you like. Where do you get water to rehydrate? Well, let me think about it. Tim, do you drink coffee? No. I don't either. No, I'm not old now. Yeah, I don't. I'm not. Anyway, so today's drink, whatever you drink, is tomorrow's drink. Oh, no. You drink, you process, you expel. Wow. We collect that expel. We separate the good urine from the bad urine. The bad urine we put in containers and save it. And eventually it comes back on cargo spacecraft. Oh, seems like you could just let that go. The good part, we process. I reprocess that again. Exactly with high energy and filters and we drink it tomorrow. So you go up there well hydrated then. It is the best tasting water I've ever tasted. I'm glad I wasn't part of the process during the, during that, you know. The testing phase? The figuring out phase. But now that it's done, it is great. Yeah, because you already said you're eating asparagus. Yeah. I'm like, whoa. Yeah, you think I'd have a little mustiness to it, right? But the bad part of the urine, the brine, we call it brine, we can keep in these big metal containers and we store those until the cargo spacecraft eventually departs and these cargo spacecraft are the ones that burn up in the atmosphere. So we fill it, full of trash and also this urine, this brine, this bad part of the urine. So it burns up in the atmosphere. So. Real Joe Dirt situation. Rain is not always what you think it is, right? Yeah. No, it's not a bad brain. Yeah, don't stick your tongue out for a snowflake, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's a real Joe Dirt thing. Shoot a monorocket at it. I'd like to have a scan of your brain. Where's all this stuff coming from? I keep a bunch of it back here. I am full of useless knowledge. Nothing meaningful like you have here. Yeah. Like five miles a second. I used to think I was good at math until today. Yeah. Wow. Now, that's cool. I just like thinking about that kind of stuff. Yeah, you know, you wonder, like, do you get to go take a space boot? Like, you know, just open the door. Yeah, we. He spent, hold on. Yeah. That man has spent 32 hours in space, not in a spacecraft. Just outside. What do you do out there? Diaper. Diaper. Yeah, you take care of the solid stuff ahead of time. You plan your day accordingly. There you go. You don't want to be doing that. You don't open the hatch without a plan. I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure when the hatch opens, I'm going to do that. That's all I'm saying. When the door opens and the outside is that, I'm pretty sure I'm going to do that. They got a tow strap tied to your back. You're fine. This ain't no volunteer. This is going to happen. Yeah. What could go wrong, right? Yeah. Oh, I'm just saying, when the door opens, I'm pretty sure I'm going to do that. I don't think I can get enough of that out of me. My friend, after the launch, I'd never be able to do that again. I did that at Epcot. Oh, my. I'm joking. Don't kick me out. When you land on the car, how fast are y'all going when that hook catches? It varies. Of course, the carrier, you get in wind over the deck. The relative speed is probably in the neighborhood of 150 miles an hour, roughly. Of course, you grab the cable and you stop in 300-ish feet, 273-interfeet. You stop very quickly. No, what? That takes off at 300 feet because I know they don't go very far. No, it's less than that. It's probably a little less than that. But you're going from relatively 0 to 180 knots, 200 miles an hour in 1.8 seconds. I really appreciate you looking me in the eyes. After you said not, this boy don't know what that is. And switched it straight to miles for I was like, well, I needed the math man there. What's your thoughts on the metric system? Yeah. Did we use that? Would it make life a lot easier? We grew up standard systems. I'm all standard. Yeah, I know. I was just curious. But yeah, I mean, I've gotten around to carrier. I tell you, day to day, day to day, if I can only live, only do one profession, naval aviator or flying space. I'm a naval aviator. I mean, that's what I that's the people. People describe me professionally as an astronaut, but I say I'm a naval aviator if somebody were to ask. And if I can only do one, I'd operate off aircraft carriers. So that's the most exhilarating. It's not that. It's not the exhilaration. There is exhilarating. It's not that, though. It's I think operating from and training for the pointy end of the spear in defense of your country, projecting power, diswaying evil, there's nothing that matches it. Not even space flight. That's why I said to jacket. Yeah. Right. That's why I wore it. That's cool. Well, that's why there's no, there's not a word that really justifies it, but would you classify yourself as an adrenaline junkie? No, not at all. Because you do some pretty adrenaline dump things. That's why in the business, I'm crazy in this way. All the guys and women that serve our nation. They love this country. Oh, yeah. Right. OK, because that's why they're doing it. It's about the mission. 100 percent the mission. Yeah, focus is on the mission. I got my whole body is a goose bump. Yeah, there's there's there's other things that come into play. But the focus is the mission. Every mission I flew the space missions and leading up to the Starliner mission. The focus was always the mission. You got to do other stuff. The guys that are launching today, they're doing a lot of different things. Their focus is on the mission. So you said you got two daughters, is that what? Two daughters, yes. Two daughters. That's awesome. So are they married? No, college. Where they go into college? East Texas Baptist, the oldest. OK, he's there in Marshall, Texas. And then my youngest is at Stephen F. Austin, oh, Nagadosius. Oh, OK. So neighbors. Yeah, we're all we're all neighbors. Close by. Are you where are you in Houston? You know, I've got a place in Tennessee, but yeah, Houston. We we're still there. Well, I just left NASA in January. So OK, yeah, we have. OK, plus we got girls in school in Texas. My wife says she's not leaving yet. Yeah, Texas. It's just I had to leave my mother. I was just with the five folks of Academy Sports. So I know my way around the Houston area. You go. I'm an Astros fan. And I drive right by Stephen F. Austin to get there when I drive down from up here. So yeah, that's no, I just like, you know, that's a both your daughters. So you had kids a little later in life. We did kind of like myself. I got three year old twin boys. Oh, yeah. Outstanding. Yeah, that's a rock. Love every moment, man. That's a rocket ship ride. Yes. Hey, tell your your wife and your two dollars. Yeah, they serve to they do. Yes, absolutely. Sure. We appreciate their service. And that would have been a weird phone call to call and tell my kids, like, I'm not probably going to be next year. Yeah, we did that. Before I get home. That was in a do you like FaceTime up there? How's that? You know, now less in the past. No, but now. Yeah. If there's correct satellite coverage, I could on my iPad, just connect with them and and face to face. Yeah, that's great. Well, I hope your book does well. Thank you. Yeah. Remember, I figure I figure it will got hope for the now. I hope for eternity. It's called stuck in space and astronauts hope through the unexpected by Barry Butch Wilmore. I'm looking at it on Amazon right now. You can get it. Is there any butch Wilmore dot com? That's what I'm more. That com Amazon Kindle. We got a audio version that I did I spoke. So yeah, so what's next? What's next for you? I books audio version. Folks, I haven't read it, but I've talked to this man and hey, everything he said has really impacted me and I told him he's my hero. And that's true. OK. Hey, hey, pick up that book. You'll get some good information from Andy. Thank you. Thank you, Si. What's next for you? Where? Wherever the Lord leads. You know, I've been real quick. I've had a lifelong of dreams and things, desires. I always want to do my Lord's will. Now there's no way that no other thing other than just glory from my Lord and do his will, whatever that is. I got you. Well, but we always close with a Bible verse. Let's do it. I would love. I would love to. I got a listener. You got one boy. Raise his hand. Yeah. And excite. I would love to give you the honor of either your favorite verse or one that's been on your heart. I know we got, you know, the the best weekend. Yeah. The worst and best weekend all in one coming this weekend. Amen. Resurrection. He has risen to D. Amen. So whatever you like to leave the folks. John, the Baptist disciples come to him and he say, hey, this guy Jesus, he's baptizing. He's doing all his disciples doing all his stuff. And John goes to them and turns to them and says, John 3 27, a man cannot receive even one thing unless it comes to him from heaven. And then he goes on to say, I must decreased. He must increase. Yeah. Because he knew his role. He was the precursor. A man cannot receive even one thing unless it comes to him from heaven. I'm the proclamator. I'm the proclamator. The guy you're looking for. That's he. He ain't here yet. And it's coming. And it's really powerful here. And you come up with that verse saying, it all comes from him because the joke I made to these guys where you got here was, if we introduce him by his awards and honors on this website, it's going to take a while. It would be the first whole segment. And so to hear someone like you who's got military awards, football awards, all this stuff to say it all comes from him. It does. But you know what I've noticed about those people? Those people that have that attitude, that list of awards gets a lot longer. That's why they're that long. That's a good point. That is the reason that those list of awards are that long. To God be the glory. Thank you all for this opportunity. Thank you so much. Check out that book too. I can't wait. Yeah. No, I'm buying it. Outstanding. Outstanding. All right. We'll see y'all next time right here in the duck call room. We're out.