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76 min
May 8, 202622 days ago
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Summary

Marley B, a recently released rapper from Stockton, discusses his street background, three prison sentences, entry into music, and rivalry with EBK crew. The interview covers his upbringing in South Stockton, involvement with the Flyboys gang, and his perspective on authenticity in street rap versus what he views as performative competitors.

Insights
  • Authenticity and street credibility are positioned as primary differentiators in Stockton rap, with Marley B emphasizing real gang affiliation and lived experience over lyrical performance
  • Prison serves as both a formative experience and networking hub where street rappers build credibility and audience, with inmates consuming and validating music
  • The intersection of gang identity and music career creates legal and safety risks, with artists balancing artistic expression against law enforcement scrutiny of lyrics as evidence
  • Regional pride and local dominance (Stockton's 2011-2012 murder rate ranking) are celebrated as cultural achievements rather than tragedies, reflecting normalized violence in certain communities
  • Generational mentorship within gang structures influences music careers, with established members encouraging younger affiliates to pursue rap as economic alternative to street activity
Trends
Street rap authenticity as market differentiator in hip-hop, with audience demand for verifiable gang credentials over polished productionPrison-to-music pipeline creating direct artist-to-audience relationships within incarcerated populations, building fanbases before mainstream releaseGang-affiliated rappers using music to establish territorial dominance and settle beefs, blurring lines between artistic expression and gang activityLaw enforcement use of rap lyrics as evidence in criminal cases, creating legal liability for artists who document street activitiesRegional rap scenes (Stockton vs. EBK vs. Bay Area) competing for cultural dominance and artist loyalty, with geographic identity as primary organizing principleNormalization of violence and incarceration in certain communities, with high murder rates treated as status symbols rather than public health crisesMentorship of younger rappers by established gang members as economic development strategy within street communities
Topics
Stockton street culture and gang affiliations (Flyboys, South Stockton)Prison experiences and incarceration as career milestoneEBK crew rivalry and competitive dynamics in Northern California rapGang authenticity vs. performative rap in hip-hopMusic as alternative to street hustling for youthLaw enforcement and gang activity in CaliforniaRegional rap scenes and territorial competitionDrug distribution and robbery as income sourcesGenerational gang membership and family involvementLyrics as legal evidence in criminal prosecutionsWeed culture and drug use in street communitiesViolence normalization in high-murder-rate citiesFlyboys record label and music collectiveJ-Bo and EBK crew dynamicsStockton vs. LA street culture differences
Companies
Disney Plus
Featured in pre-roll advertisement promoting streaming content including series Rivals and High Potential
Spotify
Mentioned as platform where listeners should follow Marley B's music releases
Apple Music
Mentioned as platform where listeners should follow Marley B's music releases
YouTube
Mentioned as platform where listeners should follow Marley B's music and content
Instagram
Mentioned as social media platform for following Marley B and connecting with artists
People
Marley B
Guest discussing his street background, three prison sentences, music career, and Stockton gang affiliations
Adam
Podcast host conducting interview with Marley B about street life and music career
J-Bo
EBK crew member facing federal charges; discussed as rival and subject of Marley B's music and criticism
Bands
Flyboys member who became successful rapper; facing murder charges; discussed as younger artist mentored by Marley B
Dougie 3Z
Flyboys crew member and emerging rapper highlighted as next generation artist from Stockton
Keith Taylor
Deceased Flyboys member who encouraged Marley B to pursue music; referred to as 'Saucin in the Masterpiece'
JJ
Flyboys founder killed in 2010-2011; death marked turning point in Stockton street dynamics
Jalice
Northern California female rapper discussed as representing Stockton culture; mentioned as critical of EBK
Von Off 1700
Chicago rapper who collaborated with J-Bo on Nightingale video in Stockton
Krip-Mack
Established rapper who supported Bands' music while incarcerated; discussed as potential collaborator
Quotes
"I really don't go into it as the city. I just do everything from my niggas. Everything I do is from my niggas."
Marley B
"That shit regular. If you say it's treacherous, it is what it is. It's been like this my whole life."
Marley B
"We are the next best thing to do in North California. Just stay tuned. Me and all the homies."
Marley B
"I just came home. You feel me? And the message is, for real, stay positive. And keep people around you that's going to celebrate you."
Marley B
"If you know, you know. So, pants, no pants. Killers, no killers. Wrappers, no wrappers. You know, street niggas, no real niggas."
Marley B
Full Transcript
Oh? Kitty! A great story, like Monsters Inc., stays with you forever. And Disney Plus is where you'll find your next great story. From the return of the award-winning hit series, Rivals. Welcome to the naughtiest show on television. To the unmissable crime drama, High Potential. Gotta dead body, gotta go. A lifetime of great stories awaits. Spring on Disney Plus, 18 Plus, subscription required. T's and C's apply. Nojomber, coolest podcast in the world, and today I'm bringing y'all a very legendary interview with a man who is fresh out and has been making noise for a long time. And I think we're gonna finally get the full story. You never did a real interview before? No, not a real one. It's crazy, man. We got Marley B's on the podcast. How you feeling? Really good, man. Fresh out, man. Yeah, how long did you just do? I did three years. Three years. And what was that for? Man, that was for a lot of shit. I had Warren's, Harry Weir, Saltz, all kind of shit. Really? Yeah. And how was it? Man, you know, I went to Territory, man. I've been doing this shit for a long time. Right. So it definitely wasn't your first bid? For sure, no. That was my third one. Damn, but was this one like pretty smooth? All things considered or is shit going down? I ain't go like this one. It was like a wake-up call. You feel me? That shit changing in there. That shit ain't right. Really? Yeah, that shit bugged. You don't want to go in there. So it was a wake-up call about how you should be living your life on the outside? It was a wake-up call to .comeback. You feel me? By all means necessary, you're going to stay alive, but at the same time, you don't want to go back there. That ain't a weird sight. Yeah, yeah. That ain't for no real reason. You ever having fights in there or no? Fights, yeah. Yeah? It's a show. You know? That's a regular one. Random fights or like op fights that you've been dying to have for years? Nah. You know, like seeing they need that immediately type shit. Okay. You feel me? Or just checking the temperature. I didn't fight over everything. I didn't fight over basketball games, all kinds of little shit. Really? Yeah. You lose any or you win them all? I ain't go a lot. I don't win them all on my list. 20 in a row? You said what? You won 20 in a row? 20 in a row. That's the four extra memes. Sorry. For real. Nah, not 20 in a row. I probably had like seven fights up in there. Okay. It was a crazy part about it. The nigga that got me a run for my money was a Nana. He was an all game. Maybe he's butt. Oh yeah? He killed everything. What'd you call him a Nana? Yeah, a non-affiliate. Okay. We call him Tunis. Yeah, he turned up to. Okay, yeah. He's a tuner. Yeah, we call him Tunis even if they're not turned up. Yeah, you from LA, right? Well, not really, but I've been here for like 16 years. Okay, yeah. I fuck around. Yeah. So, thank you. Oh yeah, jab five so that he was 205 or something. Yeah. 205 wins, five losses. Oh yeah. That's outrageous too, right? That's what you said he was in the bounty. I mean, he looks pretty crazy, so I don't necessarily not believe him. Yeah, they run in fades out there a lot. Yeah. That's what they do. Okay, so they like run fades with your enemies when you get in there, but you're saying that your shit is more like it just happens. It's not like required. You're not a fade, but you know, you know, it's just, it is what it is. It's a little different, but everywhere different. Every county different. Right. Yeah. Where were you at? Which one? When you were locked up. I went to Sac County. I went to Stockton County. I went to Yolo County. I went to Delano. I went to other places. I just be going everywhere. And so when you're walking up in there is like everybody's whispering. Oh, that's Marley Bees. It ain't really no. We walk in there in a pan, they go immediately, we're even fine. Some niggas know you. All the niggas they know me. Right. Yeah. You know, my face part good. Yeah. Because you don't really need to know what's going on. You just need to be on YouTube a little bit to know about you. A little bit. Or be in the streets enough that they know about whatever other activities you've taken part in. Yeah, no, ain't no activities. You know, if you know, you know, type shit. For sure. Yeah. All right. So all right, let's get the early days story for everybody out there. You're originally from Stockton? Yes, sir. Okay. Born and raised. In South Stockton? Yeah, South Stockton. Never switched my hood. And what was life? Wait, who switched their hood? You know who switched their hood? I don't know. I'm just an interviewer. I don't know. The way you said that, I was like, damn, somebody must have done that. You know, but you know, it's good though. You know, grew up grimy though. Okay. Just grimy. Just grimy as for where your parents are? My parents, I ain't gonna lie. My mama's she from Oakland. She got that like Oakland shit in her blood. My dad, he do his own thing. I really raised myself out here. And we always hear about Stockton. So treacherous, but did it feel like that when you were a kid? It's just normal for me. If you say it's treacherous, it is what it is. It's been like this my whole life. You hear me? So from an early age, you were used to seeing crazy shit going down in the streets and whatnot? Yes, I showed. What's like an early memory that you look back on? You look back on, you're like, that's when I knew shit was kind of out of control. It really ain't out of control when you like coming where I come from. You feel me? That shit regular. So it wasn't out of control. It was normal when you got family memories and shit. Like I come through this shit through family. I ain't with the put on. You know what I mean? It's how the shit going on. You feel me? Okay. But your parents were with the activities in general? Did they know what was going on in the streets or was it kind of new to them? I'm pretty sure they know what was going on. You feel me? They was very, very smart. They know what was going on for sure. They not naive to the fact. And your dad was around or was he kind of rolling stone? My dad was around until I was like, what, 12? And it was over after that. Were he was just out or was he locked up? No, that make it, he don't get locked up. He don't get locked up. Damn, that nigga don't get locked up. That make it more. And it was what he showed me doing his thing. You feel me? Okay. He was just really a talented criminal who would never get caught? I wouldn't call him a criminal. That nigga just, you feel me? Do his own thing. He ain't never put me in war with too much. You feel me? I don't know too much. Okay. But did he give you a lot of advice about how to move around and what not? Hell no. No? You gotta learn that on your own. Okay. Yeah. Was your mom like from Oakland and she moved to Stockton to kind of get away from a more hectic environment? No. I think her daddy moved her out here. You feel me? Yeah. You know, her daddy was a man. Okay. Her daddy moved her out there. She met my dad. And that's how that went. And were you just getting in trouble from an early age? Trouble. Trouble. I just like trouble. I just, I like violence. You like violence? Yeah. That's what you were drawn to, just fighting and shit at first? Just everything, just a hood nigga. I just like gangster shit. Right. You sure? What do you think you were influenced by? Like movies, music? Nah, just life. The only thing that influenced me as a kid was like playing sports like basketball. Other than that, life made me this. But playing sports like that, was that the thing that was kind of tethering you to reality and maybe not getting into the streets or was it all kind of one and the same to you? I'd say I didn't talk shit down for real. Okay. When did you give up on the sports dream? It ain't really like I gave up. It was just like, you feel me? Shit, the guy ain't going there. I got shit to do. I got to make some money. Right. The guy, I got shit to do. I started having kids. I got my daughter where like what, 16, 17. Okay. So it was already time to get to it. Okay. That initiated a different level of hustle in you? Yeah, you got to get it. Yeah, my baby mama's older. You feel me? So, you know how that be when you got to take care of the kids? Right. And he's necessary. You have a job in high school or you skip right past that? No, I ain't never had a job. We ain't going to a job. Right. Not that type of guy. But so your first time you had $1,000 was from what? A house leak. For sure. They call it flocking. Y'all call it flocking. We do. We call it a mix. We're refined. And that shit's super common? Hell yeah, that's common. You were going out of town to do it or you just... No. Turned out how big it is. Really? Yeah. So there's like a nicer part of stalking you would be heading over to? North side. They know where they at. Oh, okay. They know where they nice ass at. I mean, you robbing like a random person's house, not like a fucking op house. You talking about them like they're ops. I would care. Oh. Who over there? It's on that side. Right. You feel nice as fuck. I don't care who it is. Who ever made on a house slick was? Me? Yeah. I probably made a good 84. 84K? 84 off gold bars. Whoa. Yeah, that was... That's something. You know, that was... I was a kid too. But was this just a random house that ended up being super profitable? Or did you have like any kind of work you had done beforehand to know it was going to be that good? Believe it or not, somebody hit the house before I did. They just put me up on it and I went back in there. Holy shit. And you never got caught doing this? Shit. You did? That was one of the times you got locked up? Shit, man. I got a big sheet. I didn't get locked up a lot of times though. I didn't keep it real with you, man. Really? Yeah. So, okay. How old were you when you first got arrested? And for what? I said, first I arrived at Camman. The nigga that collect cans. This bitch has called the police. Any of that hate. For the money, not for the cans. For it all. Because that would be cumbersome to be saying we're taking off with a big ass bank. You're going it all, man. I wish I could have said the cans. Yeah, give me the cans too. But nah, man, I just took that little shit he had on me. I thought he had more of you. And he had Blick? Nah, next day I came back. Oh. Because the way I arrived in the mail was posted at that spot. Okay. And I came back to post it again. He like never, he pulled out and called the police. I thought it was going to have a blick out. Oh, okay. So he pulled his gun on you and then called the cops. He pulled it on me. He pulled it out and he see my face around the area. Okay. And I pulled mine out and he called the cops. And the cops came. But were they even able to prove that you took the money from him? No, I went to Juvenile for one day. Yeah, yeah. It's over. He didn't think it through. I beat that. He should have blamed you. He should have blamed you. He should have bled. No, he shouldn't have. I had some shit. And I was young and dead. Okay. When did you like first become a gang member? Would it be fair to say? A gang member? Yeah, or whatever you want to say. When you were from the hood. I don't know how y'all do it over there. I just say gang member. I just was, I always been there. You feel me always being born into it. For me, it's really like family. Like my folks, they got the back rows over there by pilgrim and all that. You know, we grew up, bro. We grew up and all together, or it's like, you feel me? Okay. Keeping up with each other and take each other's backs. You feel me? And everybody know everybody around them blocks. So you never had to get put on? It was just unspoken? Like you're just from there? No, it ain't like you gotta get put on. But you know, I got older cousins that was really members and really did a lot for this shit. You feel me? And it's just like, don't fuck with him. You feel me type of shit? Right. And then it's just be yourself. You ain't gotta be nobody. Be yourself. And I just be myself. Right. And they love me. They love me. Definitely. So what, when people say where you from, like what do you say? From the APs. From my boy boys, that B. Okay. So it's like Flyboys is the crew. The mob is the official name for the hood? Flyboys and my, we all the same shit. Okay, it's all interchangeable. We're all separate. We all from the same. And why is it the threes? Like the chain says 3Z on it? Huh? That's where we found, oh this right here? Yeah, yeah. We're a record label. We ain't a gang. Right. Yeah. We do this shit for music. But you use some phrases and symbolism that might be associated with the gang that you just so happen to be from. Hey, you really? Hey, you slicking a bluff. Hey, you go and crack it. I can't. I can't. I'm just wondering. Yeah, he can. It's big threes. That's all I can say. I love my hood. I wouldn't want to be from nowhere else though, Adam. Right. I don't care what's going on in this world. Definitely. Go crazy. All right. Yup. What you got in there? What are you smoking? This right here. This right here? Yeah, Adam, you ain't taking no shot? This is early, bro. I see you drinking hot. Come on, man. They ain't even two yet. Come on, man. Get you a cup. Pour you a shot. King, what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Get you a cup. Pour you a shot. Nah, I'm okay on the Julio. What? I might act a Julio. Come on, man. You got to come. Hey, let me get a white. You got a white. I want to make sure I do a great interview as long as I'm locked in with the flyboys, man. You liked it. You liked it. It's better. Hey, we had MBNL forever ago. We had bands not so long ago. Free his ass. Free bands for sure. Yeah. You got the Africans. Free the Africans? No, now you got the Africans. Oh, that's what you guys identify us? Yeah, we're the Africans. We definitely are the Africans. We're the Africans. For sure. But do you know where exactly your lineage descends from in Africa? I don't know. I live on that mothrax. I'm from all that shit. They just say we're the Africans. I'm from the whole Africa. The whole continent. For sure. We really from there. Wow. Oh, man, yeah. But like. The Africans is in the building, don't you? Is your family first generation or something? I'm just saying, you go to England and shit, everybody knows what tribe their family is from, but out here it's kind of lost for a lot of people unless they get the 23 and me. I ain't gonna lie. It's starting to leave you and you feel me? We on our own type of time. It is our tribe. We'll start then. In England, they think American blacks are super burnt out for not knowing where they're from. Well, we know. We Africans. You did the 23 and me? I know. I didn't do that. It's just passed down? No. Okay. The show. Okay. So you first got locked up for Robin the house when you were a teenager or what would you say? Yeah, I was in. I got locked up. My first arrest was for robbing that cam man. Right. The cam man, right? He was released. I'm racing a lighter. Okay. That's why I wanted to do that. She used this on the table. We parked it. She's fresh. Oh, I appreciate it. What's going on? I feel like a jit. Hey, I have. I got to be a gangster. I'm with the fly boys. I'm with the mob. Yeah, you got to be a guy. So you could just be yourself. Okay. Everybody ain't guys. That's good to know. But I think I am. So if you think you are, yeah, I'm with you. Let's do some games and you're already the slide. Just let me stay in the car. Just around wherever you're going. No, I'm just kidding. I can't do it. We're going to play. We don't be on that. Where we going to bowling alley? That is players. That is about a player. Right. So like when you were growing up though, like, okay, you graduated high school? No, I had that. It was over. I was already leaving school. Soon after first period I was hit the gate. Okay. So I didn't make it to school. So you were didn't last too long in that environment. What did you start doing at that point though? You were just really hustling like every day? It started with weed and I started coming like that. You feel me? Some shawks and you know, and it got deeper and deeper. Uh huh. Definitely. So uh... I got some soft things, right? You know what soft is? Oh yeah. Okay. I know you do. Yeah, I ran through a lot of that in my dough. Yeah. You never made it to the boy? Never made it to the boy. No? I didn't even got it anymore here. I'm my lead. You really? Break baby told me that BTH is the best. He was funny. You were doing drugs or you were just selling them? No, I never did no drugs. That's out. No? We all do. You were never even curious about the soft? No. I don't do EPIs, I don't do powder, I don't do nothing. What's the craziest drug you ever did? This right here. Just some other weed you never graduated past that? No, we don't do more than that. That's probably good for your future, you know? I've already crazed you out of it. I do some drugs and the weed's gonna get weird. You never smoked spice while you were locked up? Spice. What? Never, you ever seen them these? Oh, spice. I've heard a lot. I ain't gonna lie, that ain't something you want to do. That shit works in a crack, bro. I ain't gonna lie, I seen some shit. You ain't ready for that life. That shit, but... It's that bad? It's a whole other world in there. Damn, okay, yeah, that's probably a good decision. So how'd you actually get the name Marley Bees? Well, my dad just came from the streets for real though. I ain't gonna lie. The Bees come from you, you know. I hate your secret, but that Marley feel me. I just earned that from all that weed. That Bob Marley shit. That shit really came with me and it really filled me too. You've been smoking that heavily since a young age? That's all we do is smoke. Snowball telling. We see what we do. Were you like also selling weed? Yeah, I started off smoking it, yeah, I was selling it. Right. And so, have you ever actually tapped in with Bob Marley's music, or is that not really... Real soft. Real heavy. Do you ever see those old photos of Bob Marley smoking and realize how trash the Weedyhead was? It was clockish shit though. I mean, that was the time for sure. He was smoking real heavy big shit though. Yeah. You smokein' crazy. You watched him right. But then you start to realize that's why he could smoke so much because they were smoking dirt. He probably wasn't even getting high. You know, I think he was getting high. I mean, when I look at that weed... They say the best weed over there. But it ain't like the shit you're smoking right now. The high on the bunk on a dead honey. The shit you're smoking right now is probably a hundred times more potent than the shit he was smoking. Sure it is. Look at where he coming from. Everything's getting better in the world. He wasn't fucking with none of this. This a dead nigga. In your mind, who is in there? You know who he is. I think what's his name? I'm just one of them niggas. I ain't gonna lie. It's probably that little dirty nigga. That's kind of morbid. I'm not gonna lie. What happened in your life that made you so cold-hearted towards death? Death go come to wish. You feel me? You know what I mean? I believe in God though, but death go come to wish. Do you think God would approve of you like metaphorically smoking dead ops? What? Like you said metaphorically. What? It's free of mind. Look, I don't know what Jesus wants for us, but I'm assuming that he would probably look down upon that. But I don't know, he ain't ever told me not to do this right here. Yeah, it's a shame they didn't put that in the Bible. Bro. That's a nigga clocking too. What a show. Okay, do you ever have like a bad weed experience where you got too high? Hell no. Oh, edibles. Yeah. It's hard to get too high with just smoking, but the edibles will quickly put you over the top. Yeah, that's how. Yeah, no, definitely. Okay, so when you were younger, who were y'all beefing with and stuff? Was that a big part of the whole music and everything that got you into it? Really beefing, it really wasn't no. Beef like that, younger, it was kind of good when we was younger. Everybody was outside for sure. You know, house parties and all that, you know, didn't go out. Got ugly, you know, has me growing up. Was there like a particular moment that feels like that was kind of when everything changed? Ain't nothing really changed, it really just changed. You feel me? JJ, that was tragic. That's when everything changed. Yeah, it did change when JJ was shot. Who was JJ? JJ, that's the hunger. Flyboy, original. The founder. The founder. He was the founder of the Flyboys? Yeah, a recent piece. That's a piece of my ticket, bro. What year did he pass, what did you say? 2010, 2011. What? 2010, 2011. That wasn't old dog? We had the murder rate on 9. So we're on now. The murder rate, that's when I was, no, 10. The murder rate, so you're like saying now was the year that Stockton had the highest murder rate? I think on 9 in 2012 we had the highest murder rate for shot. In all of the years, right there, we were just keeping up for show. Damn, that's crazy that you just have that in mind, like the year that a lot of cities would be like, oh, that's the year we won the championship. That is. That's the year we had the top murder rate. That's a championship to the demons. Yeah? Yeah. There's not part of you that's like, oh, having a high murder rate is a bad thing? Yeah, that's a bad thing. Yeah, he's all right. Yeah, he filled me up like, yeah, it's bad for show. Because we had some years recently in LA where it was like, damn, the murder rate is so low. 2012 and 2011, two years back to back. Oh my god, you look happy. 2011 and 2012, Stockton had the highest murder rate in the country? Yes, sir. That's actually insane. I think St. Louis holds it down most years now. That was my nigga King too. Good little hand. Yeah. So does that make you like sincerely proud or is there like a bit of a sad feeling associated with that? I told you that's like a super bow. Like a super bow. That's like a super bow. We won that year. We won. We had nothing in Stockton, you understand? Okay, but it's not like your side was responsible for all those murders. I'm sure there was losses on both sides. There's Mexicans, there's all kinds of shit. All white people. All types of shit going on. But Stockton. Yeah, some white guy kills his wife. That ups the murder rate. It stopped it. We just know the murder rate. It stopped it. We got that. Right. No matter who it was. It stopped it. Are you planning on sliding on Swamp Stories now that his identity has been exposed? Nah. I'm gonna keep it real real. You gonna let him live? I'm gonna keep it real real. I ever been on the internet. I don't watch that. Oh, you don't watch any of this? We ain't worried about it. I can't know it, but I... That's in the Bay Area. Yeah. It covers all kinds of shit. I know, but we stopped it. We ain't worried about the Bay Area. Oh, you don't claim him? No, we ain't worried about the Bay Area. You got Stockton videos, though? What's the... We didn't stop it. All right, let me tell you. Swamp Stories, Way in the Bay. What are you talking about? Okay, Swamp Stories, Stockton. You did? How old were you, sir? Nope. I don't know, dude. I know why he did, like, hell of an old shit, like, he been weird. He a Bay Area. All right, these are the first ones that come up. Four years ago, Stockton versus EBK, California's hottest rap group. You got Paulie? Four years ago, Asian boys versus everyone. Paulie. He is the Paulie's, guys. Turn your balls. Oh, you're not gonna like this one. What? Exposing EBK. How J-Bo caught a hat at 12, back doors. All right, I'm not gonna read that. You know. Chat, you know. Chat, you know. That sort of thing. I don't know. Some of this information might be kind of dubious. I don't know if it's real or not, but... Um, okay. So, when did you start rapping? Let's go from that angle. I ain't go, well, I just was like, playing with him. I never know this shit was gonna happen. None of us really. Well, nah, my homies did. Saucin' in the masterpiece. Keith Taylor. Keith Taylor. He knew. He said it every day. He said it every day. I got me in this shit. I don't ever want to do it. I'm not a rapper. That's the nigger. I wouldn't be... Rest in peace. ...just out of respect to my big homie. I just... he feel me keep it always. Saucin' in the masterpiece. He knew. Was there anyone else rapping that you felt like you had to respond to? Was that like part of why you wanted to rap? Respite. Yeah, I mean, your shit is very political. Like, why? Like, sometimes you get tired of hearing bitch eyes, niggers, and nays... And then when I was coming up with this little rap shit, my niggers didn't allow this. You feel me? They don't allow this. They just letting niggers... you know what I mean? Do their thing. Because the streets are the streets. So niggers ain't trying to go down. You feel me? This shit really real with us. We didn't hear how many of diamonds. Too many. Too many. Like, five diamonds. Five diamonds? Indictments. Oh, five indictments. Okay. Yeah, so... So you grew up like... You're not supposed to draw attention to whatever bullshit we got going on in the streets. Yeah, but me, I got tired of shit. I got tired of this property. You feel me? And how many of you want me to drop that? You feel me? They really didn't. Yeah, I mean, we held that back for a minute. Molly B, the biggest troll. You feel me? But you saying he's a troll is like saying that he ain't really doing what he's rapping about, right? No, that's not what he means. Oh, okay. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he's a biggest troll. He really do that, and then he also trolls. He don't troll you. Okay. He don't troll you about everything. Okay. Because a lot of times when you call somebody a troll, like you're kind of saying that they don't do that. He's showing our personality. Shall stop the personality. I get to speak to my people. That's what I get to do. You feel me? A lot of my folks don't got a voice where I come from. You feel me? Because we come from bullshit, for real. You feel me? And then my f***s that do got places around these as bitches and niggas and marks. You know? You don't want to hear that story because they lying. So basically as EBK started to really get motion, you were like, you know what, these are kids. They're not really about what they're saying that they're doing. So I got to get out here and really show people what a real Stockton street artist looks like. No, I wasn't really worried about them, to be honest. This was before that? I really made music for us. Because when I was in a pen, I first heard the niggas was listening. Like, you know, listening to that shit. Niggas was like, alright, I should slap type shit. Mm-hmm. Feel me? But you know, whatever, whatever. We just find out the truth, you know, and the truth come out. A lot of these niggas as bitches, you feel me? We don't have bitch-eyed snitches around us. We don't have no snitching around our circle. We don't have no switching hood. We don't have no rick-a-doodle-scissors. We don't have no nitty-doodle. You're saying that they've done all that? What? What? What? Who snitched? Man, what? It's paperwork out there, you know? You don't edit that more than me. I'm just asking you, you know. Shit pop up in my phone, so I know it pop up in your phone. I got fans there, you shit. One of them dead niggas told that we smoking on. But they had a little civil war over somebody telling. They had a civil war with that. Overtelling? Yeah, about somebody telling. Like, are we still allowed to be cool with this person? Who's got a little war over telling? D.B.K. Who was telling? They split up at one point. Who was telling? Then they got back together. Who was telling? I don't know exactly. Yeah, you do. I don't know. Who was telling? Listen, I don't want to be the one putting any kind of accusations on a dead man, but at one point, that split them up. Yeah. One of them niggas we smoking on. One of them niggas we smoking on. I ain't saying nothing. One of them niggas we smoking on. If they patched it up, then I'm sure it didn't really happen and they good. You know who this is. He in here. I don't revel in the death of any dead people. Who was telling? That's on you. That's your off. You said they was having a civil war with somebody telling. They weren't getting along for a period of time. Over who? Even when I first interviewed J-Bo, he was like basically alluding to the fact they were about to get back together. Okay, but who was telling? He want to click back up. Wow. You don't want to say who was telling? He's no more than us. This is rumors that were going around. I don't know how valid it was. What's the rumor? That certain members were telling. Who? EBK members. Who? Bitch ass boy. Y'all can fill in the blanks. Y'all are the f***ing gangsters. No, we don't ask you. You said it was a rumor. Yeah. So who was the rumor? Who was telling? Listen, far be it from me to get involved with that sort of thing. You guys can tell us who was telling? Tell them, bitches. No, you guys can do all that. I'm not going to fill in the blanks. All right, all right. We're going to let swamp stories do that. Yeah. Yeah, f***ing ass stories. Yeah. We tell it. We don't know what it was all about. We don't know. For real though. You're telling us, son. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Let us know, son. Like were your first songs, actual diss songs towards them, or were you making music before that? I just make music for the hood, like whatever kind of my mind. I read that, like, that diss song that you're talking about. Uh-huh. That shit was growing in 15 minutes off two Norcos, man. Really? Man. Man, you know. This shit regular. So you were feeling great when you were writing that? Yes, sir. I feel great right now. I'm the deal. How many Norcos you have right now? You were one? Obviously, but I probably shouldn't. I'll give you one. You want one? I don't know. You got to pop it on camera. You got Stockton Fetty up there? That's what you do. I don't want to admit how many different pain pills I'm taking from guests over the years. You ever had some Norcos with Fetty? No, that's not real thing. I ain't ever heard of that. No, yeah. That's different. Yeah. That's a different level of diabolical, deceptive drugs. You should kill anybody that sells Norcos with Fetty and then kill him. Yeah? Yes, sir. How do you get your Norcos? Yeah, I just got pain. Oh, you got a good script? Yeah, I keep a script over you. Were you sober for three years when you were locked up or you were finding ways to have fun in there? Yeah, I smoked wax. Shout out to all the wax smokers. Sean and Dale, we my nigga J-Stone. We my nigga Self, I'm Santa. There's real niggas up in there. I ain't gonna lie to you. It's not that hard to get wax when you're up there. Wax? I mean wax is... I get what I want. Me, personally, Marley B. I get what I want. Any prison. I don't care where I'm at. But is wax the move? It's like a lot more compact than weed. It's wet. I'm saying wax like concentrated weed. It's just like you ain't gonna leave that... I smoke wax right now, you ain't gonna smell it in five minutes. You know what I mean? We ain't trying to be hot with the weed. Actually hot. Right. But you were getting pills while you were locked up too? I got pills. I don't know. Whatever they got. What kind of pills? People are getting pills in there, right? If it was in Norcos, I'm not f***ing with it. You don't like purse? You only like Norcos? I don't f***ing know purse. Really? I don't know if I ever heard of someone say that. I go like all my niggas, you feel me? They do what they want to do. But me, personally, me, I don't f***ing know purse. Okay. Definitely. You a lean head or not? A lean? I sleep to the weed. That's what I will do. I used to. I used to go crazy. You feel me? It's been a while. I was sipping the day I got cracked. I didn't even know I was eating. Oh yeah? How much were you drinking the day you got cracked? I probably drank like a little three. I should have cracked a f***. You should have chugged the rest of it. You carried me down. I should have cracked a f***. Leaving that cup behind when you get caught has got to be the worst. I dropped a f***. You know, 21 lines are getting cracked. Wow. I love it. Yeah. So is it true you went to the same schools, certain EBK members? I don't remember them n****s. This is a different age bracket, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm 32. Right. I don't have another n****. It's like that. I'm a little dirty kid. That's one of the dirty n****s. Oh, okay. So where would you say that beef actually started from? We can say beef. It ain't really beef. They're n****s just b****s. We just exposed b****s. That's what I'm here to do is expose a b****. I don't even... The n****s ain't no beef. Because when I see them n****s, they want to be my friend. But on the internet, they don't. You feel me? They pop it, pop it, this and songs. But n****s see me in real life. It ain't that. So it's not beef. I don't call that beef. So you've actually ran into some of them in real life in recent years? I ran into them in the pen. I ran into them all the time. Oh, really? Yeah. Who'd you run into in the pen? Couple of them. They know who they is. I ran into a couple of them, at least like five of them. E.B.K. members. Oh, really? Yeah. What about that phone call with J-boe? What about that? I mean, that was interesting. It felt like, oh, s***, maybe there's different energy over the phone in real life, etc., then there might be in the music. No, it's just different energy in person, period. You feel me? What phone call? Phone call. What phone call? When he got on the phone? Yeah, they call J-boe. And he got on the phone? He had him on the phone. Oh, A.G.s, he had him on the phone? He talked about that phone call when he called him, trying to like... I mean, everybody's asking him, like, so is Flock, K, what's going on? And he was kind of like... He was trying to be nice. He ain't on that right now. He ain't on that right now. He could have stood on it a little more. It was just somebody... No, he just not on that right now. Just right now, while we right here, he know what I mean. He go beyond that later, though. You feel me? Later on, he go beyond that, like... But right now, he know... It was somebody in there, it was somebody in there big. It was somebody in there big, let him... He let him put him on the phone. Somebody in there big, put him on the phone. He pick it, he pick his fights. You ain't been doing your homework on, buddy. What kind of homework? Like, on J-boe. On J-boe? Yeah, it does. What are you referring to exactly? Like being a bitch. I ain't doing that. Oh, I don't know about that. You think he should have took the seven years, or you think he's smart taking the feds to try? I ain't even done nothing about that. I really don't even... You feel me? I just came home. They tried to give him seven years, and he said, nah, I'm going to trial. I'm taking everything. See, like that, anything I do, I'm taking. For real? Because I'm coming back. He can do what he want, though. Maybe he knows something we don't know. He thinks he can beat it. He probably can. See, he got something up his sleeve. You're praying for him to beat those charges? Yeah, I am a praying fan. Read that, man. For sure. He need to come home. Okay, because, like, they say... I just was watching a video of Sean Cawton saying that Young and Ace's movement died out when Fulio died. That, like, when your top op dies as a rapper, that a lot of times the fans kind of lose interest. So do you feel like it's better for your music career if they're out having motion? Man, free here, man. He gives us free problems. You know what I mean? All you do is talk about that. All you do is suck it. That's it? That's all he does. Yo, here's rap. She talking about Floyd's all day. No, literally, yeah. I'm talking about nobody else. Like, I like his music, but sometimes it's kind of like, Jesus Christ, can we just, like, stop killing flies for a little bit, because it's just too much. What? When are you gonna kill a fly, though? Huh? When? That's cool. You heard me. You don't think he's ever got an EXP? You think he killed a fly? I don't know. He raps about it so much, I feel like he got it done something. That man is innocent. That man is innocent. Free him. Ever, ever. He's innocent. Free him. I mean, they just caught him, like, rolling around with guns and drugs, right? That's it. Free him, man. That man is innocent. Free him. You don't believe it? He's innocent. Free him. He might be on crystal right now, though. How he get small like that? How he get small like that? You know? Can he tell you? Not having lean. I ain't talked to him since he been free, really. Lom said, when he was fat, he was a little fat bitch. Yeah, yeah, he was fat. Now he's a little small, like, how he do that? He's trying to get his sexy on. I know that. People blow up with the music, you know? I know he wasn't working out. The more weight you lose, the better that, like, the girls like you. Maybe the music will get more popular. What? I mean, I mean, it makes sense, right? Like, the skinnier you get, more girls are gonna be looking at you like you fly. I'll be f***ing skinny, nigga, bitches. I should know how to make shit. Tell him, man. Tell him. What, are you being? You know that? So what, you got, like, that fat dude swag that girls just can't resist? I don't know what I got, but I got it. I don't know the damn, I got it. I keep it. I gotta keep it. It's regular though. All this shit regular. Definitely. Um, yeah, I don't know though. I feel like, like, do you feel like any of the other E.B.K. members are gonna step up to, like, basically keep that movement alive, or you think if J-Bo ends up getting 20 years, that that's just the end of it? I really don't be keeping up with them niggas. Oh, really? Them niggas, like, kinda like weird. I ain't allowed to do nothing to niggas. I wanna read on, for real, cause I know. So as I see they picture on anything, I be like, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch ass boy, bitch. Like, you feel me? I don't care about that shit. I ain't taking daddy from a kid. I ain't taking daddy from a kid. For real, they ain't got- That's some demon shit over there. Yeah, that's my demon right there. Did you ever know J-Bo's dad from the streets before he passed? Rory. We knew Rory. You did know him? Yeah, that's how I, I ain't, I don't know that bitch ass boy. What is it? We didn't know his freaky ass daddy. Yeah, we knew his freaky ass pop. What do you mean freaky? I said, I said, bitch, you ain't do nothing for your pop. I said, bitch, why is you crying? I'm going to the hotel. Why you saying freaky? You're gonna tell you, brother. Shut the fuck up. Touching on somebody 17, you're gonna tell. They're not touching minors. Oh, hell no. Your dad was freaky. You don't really know that, do you? What? You know where I'm from? You gotta get the paperwork. I mean, freaky is a mother fucker. Oh, no. Big freaky nigga. That's some dark shit. He got a music career going though. For sure. He got a music career going though. Okay, but last question about that is that do you believe the, the lore that J-Bo basically grew up to avenge his father? Man, we don't believe him. That's hitting that nigga. It's like a rumor, but, and he kind of says it in his lyrics. I don't know how literally we're supposed to take it. Man, that man is innocent. He's innocent. He's innocent, man. He's innocent, man. He's an innocent kid, man. How are you gonna say he's innocent when they caught him with guns and drugs? He's just an innocent kid, yeah. Everybody was playing Dracos on people? Everybody I know played with guns and drugs. That ain't nothing. Bitch has bullies all day. Everybody I know, real names. They're all like, I'm a big kid. Everybody plays with that shit. He's innocent, man. Okay, yeah, for him, for sure. Let that nigga come home, man. Definitely. Who's your least favorite you became a member? Oh, man. Which one's the worst? They are all like bottom feeders. Oh, no. No, the worst one. I don't got a worst one. I ain't go a lot. They like, I look at niggas like the same go for real. If you could do a song with J-Bo or Jock, which one would you pick? A song? I don't think like... That'd be all. That'd have ever happened. I'm gonna keep it real. What if you had to? Ain't no happy. I don't have to do the next thing. The more I think about it, the more I don't know if that movement really like survives without J-Bo as the head of it. You know who I'd rather do one with though? Who? Sluggy. Oh, okay. He was legendary. I'd rather do one here. He ain't in here no more, but... No, yeah. Sluggy was dope. I know you're being sarcastic, but I'll be really... That was just type shit. Type shit. Type shit. Okay, so I actually just had Vonoff 1700 in here and I was asking him about what it was like being on Nightingale shooting that video with J-Bo and Stunning Girl and shit. Like, I mean, was that kind of wild for you to see like a really hot Chicago rapper going to Stockton? To be honest, we don't care about no Chicago going to Stockton. We ain't worried about none of that. But to me, that kind of stood out like, oh, Stockton's really making moves that like Chicago's hottest rappers are like, let's fly out there and do videos on the block. You're on the outside looking in. We not caring about none of that. Okay. That shit don't move us. That shit don't enter. We not... That's not our entertainment. Nothing buddy do is our entertainment. The thing is, we not on that. I'm gonna keep it real. We real members. So we move kind of different. They're honeys. Okay. They both innocent kids. They been trying to tell him, free that man. Didn't they just free one of the snitches? What's the negative? He been telling me he came out of this dog and popping it. Yeah. Him and Vaughn 1700 is innocent kids. You don't believe Vaughn's with the shits? Man, they innocent kids to me, man. Innocent. Anybody popping it like that? Bro, I just see the video of all Vaughn's homies just shooting drakes down the block. And the security camera footage, you can't see what they're shooting at, but they all just shooting the shit up down the block. I couldn't believe it. He came in here to do the interview. He's with the same dudes. That's cool. I mean, shit. They really doing what they're rapping about. Oh, shit. Where he take that? You think that was cool? They innocent kids, man. I mean, it's mysterious because you don't know what's getting hit down the street. Man, they innocent kids. That's it. I ain't gonna lie, bro. We all gonna be worried about buddy though, to be honest though. I really don't. Never. Are you ready to like really make a play at being the next big rapper out of Stockton though now that you're free? For show, I'm gonna put it all. I'm gonna go crazy. That's what I'm here for. I'm gonna put all the flies on. I'm gonna do the move. The real one, not the fake one. You bitch, I was thinking that they got all guys and buddy. We're back to jail. You think it's gay. They will keep going back to jail. You not doing that. You broke. You hungry. I know what's going on. You wanna sit in there? You mad over a stunning girl. We're blue face at. Where is the blue face at? Yeah, tell blue face, Dougie 3Z and blue face getting the ring. Arrange that. Y'all got a problem with blue face? No, we just wanna arrange that. Because we got the fly's crit. We got the fly's crit. Who? Him? No, Dougie 3Z. Yeah, he the fly's crit. Yeah, Dougie 3Z is the fly's crit. Why you looking at me? Dougie 3Z. Oh, it's him. Alright. Yeah. Dougie 3Z. He got free bands, 655K from a year ago. Look at that. Oh, I gotta get into him. He's a real brother. Whatever you know what it is. Whatever fly gang does. Oh, okay, shit. Let's talk about him. He innocent. How long you guys know each other? It's my brother. It's my brother. And you're claiming to be the fly's crit. I'm a fly, a nigga, fly's crit, flies, everything. That's bands started. Yeah, bands started that, right? Yeah. Nah, that's a hood thing. That came from sauce. That came from my big homie. That's where this all this stuff really comes from. All that type of shit comes from that. It's real fly shit. We gotta talk about the real shit like... Keytales. That's where that shit come from. Bands talk about him too? No, bands though. That's brother. What's your relationship with bands? Talk about that. That's my nigga. I've been doing bands since I was young. Since we always follow schools and shit like that. That's my partner. Were you surprised to see him come out and just get all this motion as a rapper? I wasn't surprised. I was in prison when he blew up. We had to tell him, just like him, we had to tell him like drop. Like, he wasn't even... The fly's cream, we band heard that. My mom actually, we was like... We telling him like... We telling him like, you gotta drop that ass slap. He don't know. He don't know until for hell of a long. Then he finally drop it. Hell of a layer, he band had that song. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm in prison. I'm on the phone with the nigga. The nigga like, oh, I'm gonna start rapping. I'm like, yeah, you already got the motion. Go here, go crazy. He like, yeah, you feel I'm tired of going to jail. He said that, I felt it when he said that. Cause I'm in jail. And I got at least two more years to do. Fill me. You wanna start working back at it? No more. But yeah, bro, he did that shit, bro. My slater, bro, that shit, he did what he said he was gonna do. He stood on that. That's my real brother right there, dawg. You think it's a coincidence that bands blew up as a rapper and then like six months later goes down from murder charges? Do you think that put an additional level of spotlight on them? A coincidence? I think why, to be honest with you, it's not a coincidence. It's just that nigga incident is f***ing on. Where this shit just comes from, you found it? They just need a free bro, you feel me? In Mealy. We need a bro back. That's who we do need back. He can't just rap no more, you know what I'm saying? They start taking raps and breaking it down, thinking it's more than anything. But we don't actually know that they're gonna be using his lyrics or his interviews against him, although I'm gonna be honest, it would definitely make a lot of sense. No, you putting it that way, bro. Have you seen me? His music is crazy as f***ing. Catch it, he's gonna... My bad gang and my mama, this is my f***ing up. I'll be catching it, you gotta catch it. He's gonna go for it. He's gonna go for it with it. Yeah, he's gonna go for it. I mean, I'm gonna be real, like, I hope they can't use his lyrics against him. But if they do, oh lord, that's not good. The songs are like very, very violent in nature. But free as ass, either way, for sure. For sure, for sure. That's what they like. That's what we need, y'all. Y'all doing music together, that's what the streets really need. They never got to see y'all working together. Yeah. My mama, they're telling me, let's get the ball rolling on him. Definitely. Alright, so you call yourself the top opt. Do you feel like you're viewed as the villain of Stockton, or do you feel like the city's ready to embrace you as the leader, the king? I really don't go into it as the city. I just do everything from my niggas. Everything I do is from my niggas. I really don't look in deep into it like, I don't go f*** about how the city feels. We try and do some big shit. We try and get rich, ain't nothing else to do. We didn't do everything already. Ain't nothing else to do. But do you feel like you can move freely around Stockton, go to the mall, go out shopping, and that kind of shit, or is there just too much tension that it's not even fun to be out and about in the touristy type areas and shit? I don't know, I go where I want for real. It's just, you feel me? How you want to live though? Stockton is like a timing thing. You don't want to go to the mall, what you want to go to that mall for? Whatever you want. It's like you plan at this point. You want to play, or you want to live. You want to go to jail, you want to go home. You want to play like what you want. That's what it is when you ain't Stockton. Feel me? All the demon time. Do you know anything about the street roots of Jason Lee? Jason Lee. In Stockton? The what? The Marriott here. We heard before that he has like, Crip Roots, and then when I interviewed him, he kind of denied it. Obviously, if you like working in the local government, you probably don't want people to know that if it is true. I ain't got a lot. I don't know nothing about that. That shit deeper than you know more than me. I just got out. I ain't got a lot. You didn't see me, I didn't see you. Yeah, he's trying to make changes in the city though. He's trying to like help do things that'll make the city less violent. It feels like a little different than your You feel like the police making it more like, less violent? I feel like the police probably making it less violent by arresting people who are killing each other. Or at least that's the idea. You don't think that works? Or you think the police make it worse? Nah, I don't think the police make it worse. I don't think the police make it worse or nothing like that. But like, you know, I don't know, I can't really say anything. You know, he feels getting interested in what the police like. They already tried that. Talking about the police dude, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want to go down that road. You don't leave up somewhere bad. They don't like people like that. What am I listening? Um, okay. So when you start getting in the face tattoos? Shit, I got this in prison. I want somebody to die. I went crazy for it. I ain't got a lot. Somebody died close to me. I started just going crazy. You're talking about the cross on your cheek? Yeah, I started just, you know what I mean? I ain't got a lot of this pic. This ain't, this is somebody standing up me doing this all day. So who passed away that made you want to get that? My family never. Show somebody I love. Okay. I just went crazy. For sure. What do you think the biggest difference between Stockton and LA is based on your experience? Difference? Yeah. Especially big. Oh, LA though. It's hell of a shit going on in LA. I could say that's like confident. You feel me? It's like nine X's. Like, you ain't grime me. But they got a lot of shit going on in Confidence. Right. Could you ever see yourself moving down here? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, I fuck with it out here. Yeah, I'm just... Do you check in with people? Is there people you hang out with out here? Yeah, I fuck with niggas. Hell yeah. Check in? I don't know how you like... Consider that. It's just locked in with niggas. I'm locked in with too many niggas not to check in. It'll be... It don't make sense not to check in when you come out here. You feel me? It don't make sense. And you see, you feel me? My niggas got a lot of... We got ice and shit. You feel me? So we not... Yeah, if you're low key, I feel like you can not check in. But I'm gonna be real. Just looking at you, everybody who sees you, gonna be wondering, like, where he from. You feel me? You gonna be like, all right, you feel me? That's up to you, how you judge me. You feel me? White people really be on me, like the law enforcement type, my fuck. You feel me? But people that really know me and get to know me, no matter what color it is, they fucking... They don't look at me like that. But not knowing me, it is what it is. You ain't gonna... You feel me? They had to move me from up north. They took me... Move me all the way down south. Oh, so you were locked up down here? Hell, yeah, I just got out down here. Oh, shit, okay. Oh, fuck when they... Jaystone for all the cities, you know who that is? Yeah. Shout out to Jaystone. You were really like, hanging out with him every day, that's crazy. My niggas sleep right here next to me every day, real niggas. Really? What's the biggest, like, cultural differences street-wise that you kind of picked up on in terms of, like, the difference... So what's the what? Like, the biggest differences culturally, like, that you do things differently or whatever. Anything stand out? I really just go with the flow type shit. I go with the flow, but I stay. You talking about, like, in stocking? Yeah, just like, things that people do differently. Anything... Yeah. Shit, shit, niggas don't... They just... They politic... Like, any niggas that ask for, like, if you really... Like, gangsta time, no matter where you go, it's gonna be cool, like, no matter where you go, like, it's gonna be the same. That way, if you feel me rather than this, push up a little harder, say it a little harder or something like that, like, cah-woo-thee-woo-woo. Or cah-woo-thee-woo-woo, like, we-woo-woo-woo. Like, niggas don't really, like... Really, you won't hear it too much, like, cah-woo-thee-woo-woo. Like, it won't... It'd be more, like, new size, you know what I mean? Like, southeast, west, north, like, you know, you decide you front, and take everything for you. Right. Definitely. Um, what's your thoughts on Jalice? Jalice? Try Hella Hard, I just said it. Try Hella Hard. Yeah, she's putting on for Stockton in Northern California. She be putting it out there. Shut up, Jalice. I ain't gonna lie. She put it off at Y'all's culture. Jalice, I'll go post about her. Like, it's the whole Latin song. Yeah, I'm serious. Let's do one mic. You seen our video about me? No, she may be about you. Okay. What, is it a diss song or like a YouTube video? Nah, just a little snippet or whatever and shit like that. And he's a fake poppin' it on me and shit like that. You know? All right, we're gonna look at that. She did it. And we're on with that you brought her out. We don't even got to talk about it too much. She just got to play Jalice, you know? He f***ed Jalice out of Jalice. Uh, shit. She be on weird shit to you, right? King, right. King, right. She be on some weird shit. So my n****s came f***ing with you. You be trying to do some weird shit. But, my momma, you did that one thing. All my content. Yeah. So my n****s, this is my momma, n****. I can't find the video she made about you. Is this a little clip or whatever or something? She was talking about some shit that some people lied about me for in a song and shit. Suck a n****, some suckers lied about me about some shit in a song and all that, you know? I don't know. Is that better? Yeah. Wait, but so, you feel like she's a good representation in Northern California right now or you think she's tweaking? All content, good content. Type C. All content, good content, even if some of it may not, it may be a little bit of, you know, a song from somewhere, come from somewhere else, but from out in like, alleged like, lies and shit like that, but, you know? I feel like disrespect in EBK is like kind of one of her main pastimes. So y'all got that in common. It wasn't that far, I thought she was a fan. Yeah, I thought she was a f***ing... She kind of all over the place. It don't go like that? I been like that for a long time, you know? She be pivoting. I'm n***a this shit. I'm n***a this shit. She be, yeah, but she drags Maazi a lot. We got Munchy B here, she be talking shit about him. Oh, yeah, she be talking about Maazi. She drag Maazi? We got Maazi n***a then. That's a real n***a. I'm not saying she drags him real life. I'm just saying she drag him on the air. That's a real n***a, man. She out of pocket for that, bitch. Y'all tapped in with Maazi like that? I got a pocket for that, bitch. So I'm a A.C.M. So you tapped in with Maazi like that? Yeah, that's my n***a. I'm on mama. He's a n***a, though. She can't speak on a real one. Y'all gonna do music together? You just getting to it? I'm just enjoying life, man. N***a ain't going back. That's all that matter. But yeah, though, shout out to Maazi, though. Okay, what steps are you taking to avoid getting locked up again, though? Oh, you know, first n***a got to get off paperwork. That's fair. I didn't do this shit. I ain't no gangster. I know what the f*** I'm doing. I got kids. I don't play like this. Oh, the dead homies. We got to get off paperwork, then we got to get involved. But I'm gonna drop hot shit. Y'all be ready. Down Holy, too. Down Holy, I'm gonna drop that video. You got to f*** with it. You all come to the video shoot? In Stockton? Nah, nah. I'm gonna come out here and f*** with you. Let me know. Actually, I don't know. You're probably gonna be dissing people in the song. I don't know if I want to get involved with that. I got to hear it. I'm gonna let you hear it if you like it. You gonna let me get a verse on it? If you want to. I got that f***ing. You got to hear my email. You already got my number. For sure. Okay, so, okay. Why do you call yourself the top-up? What do you think of Jaleese? Okay, next one. DC Baby Draco. He moved down here and took over the streets. He hood vlogging in every neighborhood. He beefed in with the general for extra. I really don't keep up with dude. I was in prison with dude. He recorded my phone conversation. After that, I just never spoke to dude. I really don't ever get involved with him. Oh, because you did a hood vlog with him as well at one point. It wasn't a hood vlog. He just pulled up. He interviewed me for like, 10 minutes, yeah. 10 minutes, 3 minutes, 4 minutes. Quick shit. Got up out of here. He asked to tap in with me. He hit me up with some fresh girls niggas. Yada and AB Million all in. He was like, you're f***ing out. You feel me? And they end up really being a f***ing enemy. We got to speak on all that though. But you know, but he's a podcaster. Yeah, and a hood vlogger. That's what he, a hood vlogger. He pulled up to every neighborhood now. He might not be a podcaster. He might be a hood vlogger. I said that wrong. I mean, he'd be on podcasts a little bit, but you know, he'd pull up to like, anybody neighborhood. Where he from? Is he from Oakland or is he from Stocktown? I don't know. He's from Stocktown. I'm playing from Stocktown. He's from Oakland, though, if you say so. I think I was trying to remember somebody from there. Yeah, though. No problem with GC, baby Jack. Shout out to him though. I caught one of them EBK niggas. I see a little, what's that one? AB? You know what I mean? You know me? You're like, oh yeah, I don't know you. What's up? Oh, yeah, you need that? What you think? Got out with him on my mama. He got out with DC Baby Jackal right after. But DC Baby Jackal got out and started doing weird shit after that. Oh yeah? He just left me in the long. Do you think he moved down here because he needed a fresh start? A fresh start. Everybody need a fresh start, man. I don't know what that man on, but everybody need a fresh start. If it wasn't going good for you, what you doing is start something new. For show, you feel me? This a fresh start right here? Me being here with you. Because I'm used to all violence and gangster and camping. And fly shit. That's all I'm used to. Damn. Right. How do you feel about people saying like fly exterminator and songs and shit? I thought that was the point why you said that earlier. What? About the need to get on the phones and shit. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you asked him about. That eliminates like, it makes sense now because that song came out before. You talking about him? He made that song, yeah. You talking about people or him? Okay, him, but I mean, a lot of them be singing and shit. Boy, you're not a fire sermon. We not. Let's get that. That's the point, guys. Why are we here? Let's get it understood. Adam, you call we here because he's not. That's why we here. Can you show me your shoes? My shoes? I think that's kind of clever. I mean, I just thought it was kind of clever. You know, you came with a symbolic drip. Them real flaws. I don't know if they could tell, but. Once I put these flies on you, yeah, I'm gonna be flies on you. They're gonna be flies on you. I'm gonna step it. Them real flies. Them flies you can't swipe. Fly, Sterling, they're my bitch ass boy. That's fly, Crippen. What? Saucy Mac, Keith Taylor. Cover. Stop playing with me. I'm really a fly like that. Stop playing with me. Crippen. Shit. Adam, these niggas is playing. These little boys, though. I let them live. I didn't mean to do that right here. They different though. I ain't gonna lie. After that, you hear me, though, Adam? Huh? That shit real, though. That shit's real. Niggas songs came out of the phone call you bought up. That song was before that. We're just gonna leave it at that, though. Right. How'd you feel about this clip of EBK Lick saying that you wasn't running the yard in prison? Lick. L-I-K? Lick. I don't know Lick at all. I just heard the little nigga, the little nigga. The little nigga is somebody's brother that I know. You feel me? But I know the little nigga is a little boy. He a set hopper. So, when it comes to set hoppin' niggas, when it comes to them, I'd be like, any floor in your game, I don't acknowledge you. So, you don't respect anybody changing their hood partway through their life? Oh, no! Playing three games, I am not Lick. Did you hear bass? You heard bass? What the big peak? I heard when you like 15, and then what if they end up being some busters and you want to switch it up? Why would you join some busters? You are a buster. I knew. I bet not gonna hang with no busters on a dare for me. But you 15, so you might not really have the judgment. I was doing all kinds of wack shit when I was 15. But I'm saying, I know a buster from a real nigga at 15. You don't? I don't know. 15-year-old me, I wouldn't really trust him. I know a nigga out here doing weird shit. You feel me? You can feel it. I can see a nigga's eyes. I'll be looking at nigga's eyes. That's where I really be on. I feel like I've heard that there's a shitload of people in LA who switch their hood at some point. But that it feels like once they get famous or any kind of respect, then all of a sudden it's no good. But as long as they're not popular, if they're low-key, then it don't really matter. If you switch your hood, that's your business. This is me where I'm from. But if that's like something cool where they from, I'm gonna go, all right, that's cool. That's how I go. I'm not from that world. You feel me? I'm from a whole different world. I'm from this fly shit. We don't play them games. I'm a dead hug. You got like a new generation of rappers under you that you want to highlight or who you feel is coming up from your side. Obviously, I have a dougie here. You told my moneggy? Oh, we got Boy Boy. We got Snowy. We got Niggas. I ain't go live. We got Roster. Oh, nice. The band's already there. You think the band's gonna beat all that? Hell, yeah. He innocent. Why wouldn't you beat it if you innocent? It's only right. It don't make sense for you not to beat it. Right. I mean, shit. He got picked up by the feds? That's not a state case? I really ain't got it. Too much, but I feel like I'm gonna be locked up. But I'm gonna tap in with my brother immediately. You see the clip of Krip-Mack watching bands' music on here? I have a say in it. What's up with Krip-Mack? He was just showing love. He was saying when he was locked up he was listening to bands' music and shit. Krip-Mack is just such a Krip that anyone who's a Krip, he's just automatically in their corner. I ain't go live with Krip-Mack. That nigga hell-fing. He's the best. He's different. I do a song with him, but he's different. Oh, sure. We should make that happen, actually. He might be down. I could have been doing a song with him, but I'm just chilling right now. You gotta hear his verse on your big homies on a 50-50 yard. Yeah. The craziest verse I ever heard from him. That's how you do it. He says a whole yard full of markouts and retards. Yeah. You know, it's funny though, I was in Delano and he was on the other side of my mama. He was in there. When I was in Delano, as soon as I hit the yard. You should have got transferred to his side. He was right there next to me. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You had a chance to talk to him or anything? Hell no. I wish I could. I would have held that in my brain. You hella funny. Damn. Yeah. For sure. All right, so anything else we need to know? What else we need to know about the movement that you're pushing forward and everything? Well, the movement, y'all need to be ready for music. That's all I'm pushing is music. I ain't got nothing else. I'm on a positive vibe. You feel me for real? I ain't really worried about too much. You feel me? I got my niggas with me. I got my hood behind me. I don't have anything else to say here to do business. This is nothing personal. It's just business. That's all it is. It's just business. Marley Beads back home, they're in trouble. You can say yourself a drill rapper or no? A drill rapper? What? I ain't got a lot. I can do everything. I really can do everything. I be playing with this little ass shit. But you finna find out. I got hella shit. First day out, third day out, I got shit coming for you. What other styles of music could you imagine yourself touching? I could use some Afro beat. Afro beat? What style? It's kind of hard to describe, but they got a different drum style and everything. The music that they really be making in Africa. Oh, Africa, I ain't gonna really get into that. I'm gonna keep it real. Okay. R&B, Neo Soul, Marley Beads, No. I'm close with that. They could get on the track with me in the car. Me, Dougie. Me, Dougie on the track with you. We gotta put you on a song with Jack Harlow doing some some new school shit. Jack Harlow is a whore. Who's the top white boy rapper? That's crazy. You mean like, you're not talking about like no Eminem. Little brazy. Yeah, you were locked up. You were locked up. A little, uh, a little, uh, a little small, little white dude. He tripped. From Utah. He was cold and he turned into a little fan. Did he get locked up? I ain't seen him in a minute. No, no, no. He kept going out. He kept getting pulled up on the L.S. shit. I liked it even before that. I tapped in with him. He wanted to do a song. He wanted to do a song with you? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. He's like a little white mini J-Bo. He's a mini J-Bo. I swear to God. You have no idea. That's what I'm saying. He was cool at first. He went bar with shit. Then he started, he started fanning out. He started pulling up on his low ass. He started pulling up on his low ass. He's like, oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got ran up on like five times right after we interviewed him. People pressing him and shit. It was crazy. Yeah. I want this shit on my eyes a bit. No, no, no. Get out of here. I'm on that. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. He got his YouTube deleted too, so nobody can... Fire BB. Yo, all right, all right. Here we go. Come on. Ready, fuck you. Did he say some weird shit? He's white. He just said the animal. That's not even the craziest part. I'll say no weird shit, man. That's what you want to say. You want a white boy right here? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Mmm. You got to be fucked there. One year ago. You see how he's saying three? Three. Yeah, and he's a kid. That's all I get from him. Where are you going? Yeah, man. Like, do your thing, little bruh. It's kind of hard though, right? Yeah, he's a kid though. That's all I see. You can play the one you knew about around Instagram before we went to the store. Yeah, it's weird because he got his YouTube deleted. Yeah, yeah. He's fucking chai and Benny Harness. They got burritos and shit on deck over here. I'm Serrido. You guys going to hit Marathon Kerger while you're out here or what? You like my cripping right there? That's pretty good, right? That's advanced cripping. Marathon, surely. I'm for shoving. I'm going to hit the Marathon burger and make it my nigga J-Stone. Tell me you're going to hit that up. So I'm going to hit it up right after this show. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to do that. But show. All right. So, yo, any other message to the people? To the people, for real though, it's just be safe. Be safe. Stay out of jail. You don't want to go back to jail. Niggas that's going back to jail, they're absolutely gay. They like going to jail. That's what that means. You feel me? I just came back home. You feel me? And the message is, for real, stay positive. And keep people around you that's going to celebrate you. You feel me? Go where you like, humble way and can be yourself. You feel me? Right. Yeah, no, definitely. You don't ever want to beat nobody else out. I'm down. Be yourself. Nothing. No. Listen to everything you hear. A lot of shit be entertainment for real, for real. Yeah, it's just all entertainment. Do your homework, find out a nigga faking and then you will really figure it out. What I like to go is, I like to say if you know, you know. So, pants, no pants. Killers, no killers. Wrappers, no wrappers. You know, street niggas, no real niggas. You know, it's just go. If a nigga don't know you, nigga don't know you. We know what's going on, because we in there. We in the streets. You got it live in your face right here. This is the real niggas. These niggas are really outside. You feel me? But enjoy. You're saying y'all are the real deal so they need to study and pay attention. Yeah. What I'm saying is, See, I like, wow. What I'm saying is, we are the next best thing to do in North California. Just stay tuned. Me and all the homies. Would you do a song with Dream Life Rizzy? Dream Life Rizzy. Rizzy, I ain't gonna lie. That nigga made a sniper. I give him credit with credit as do. He did that. His interview was fire. And he was speaking facts. But they're saying that J-Bo, one of the guns they caught him with was basically used in a shooting against Rizzy. He spoke to Rizzy and shit a few times. I ain't gonna lie. When I was locked up, brother hit me on the Instagram to tell me, get out, do this shit, we go locking, we go dismissing, it is good, what is good. All that other shit, boy, I don't want a nigga, please. I got two strikes. Stop playing with me. The only thing I'm going down for is a beat. Nothing else. Get away from me. I don't want to be around you. Appreciate you guys coming through, putting on for the next big movement coming out of Stockton. You about to sign the empire? I ain't gonna lie. I don't know who I'm signing to. You gonna sign to Gucci, man? I don't know who I'm signing to. Whoever got that bag for me, whoever comes with that bag, I'm a grab gang. Go tell him. Would you sign to Gucci? I was telling him, he said would you sign to Gucci? He gonna tell over you. I ain't gonna do nothing for him to tell on me with that shit and that's all. I'm not letting that nigga tell on me. I'm leaving on. I'm smelling like I'm a no-wee, you gonna tell on me. Bitch ass boy. I know. I've been 32 for nothing. These niggas ain't gonna make it to see 32. Tell me, but yeah. Congratulations. Tell him, man, I appreciate you blessing us with the first interview. For sure we should run it back sometime soon. I ain't interviewing no more. It's just you. I double back on you, but that's it. You gotta stay out of trouble. That's the number one rule. That's the only thing I gotta do. Look what I got with me. I got the mouth with me. That's all I gotta do for them. That's bug if I go to jail, what am I doing? You know what I mean? It don't make sense. Let's make it make sense first, then we can talk about the other shit. We don't want that rapper. We want them N words that's really from the mob. What does that really mean? I really don't. Who's the rapper? I don't know why a nigga would say that. Niggas be power. I gotta say it. I can't just keep letting him say that. I'm sitting right here, man. I can't keep letting you do this. I'm just curious. The streets want to know. They want to know too much. They want to know the street style on the dead homies. They get popped over this fly boy shit all the way in sack. The 99 and the 5. Like wise, We ain't doing no faking and all that. We ain't gonna make lyrics. Let the lyrics be. We ain't speaking about all these fake rappers. Ooh, why, why, why, move by. I ran into niggas. They go to jail. They ain't the same niggas. You just in it. Niggas didn't say that. They didn't tell my weed. Niggas didn't say they did this and did that. Ain't that. I put down, you see who I'm with? These niggas are slime you out nigga. For real? On your dick home. Him? Do your home. Him? Do your home. Do your home. Do your home. Hey. Slime you out. Listen, niggas don't even need to come from a certain place. I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you myself. I'm gonna do this though, but like please. Please. No, I respect you though. I respect you though. Adam, thank you for asking. No, I appreciate you for real. My boy, you got some good ass music. Everybody turn up the Spotify's and the Apple Musics and the YouTubes and the Instagrams, et cetera. Appreciate y'all. Marley B's, no jumper. A classic in the book. Like, comment, subscribe. Shout out to all of our members. We will be reading the comments. Stay at home. For the showly. Let's go.