PMS 2.0 1550 - Overreaction Monday with Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Kevin Pritchard, Ryan Smith, Cameron Wagner, PK Subban

Hello beautiful people. And welcome to our humble about the thunder down on this massive overreaction Monday, May 11, 2026 this program begins now. Sports are the absolute greatest and I'll tell you what we are packed to the gills today with sports conversation. Obviously the NBA and NHL playoffs continued through the weekend we have a sweep in the NBA and a sweep in the NHL are the tops of the divisions too high in each sport or was there just a couple ass beatings that needed to happen as we try to figure out the electricity of the rest of the NBA and NHL playoffs what chitchat about it all we have Adam Schafer joining us here in a matter of a few moments chitchat about a lot of NFL news that is happening around the globe. The NFL schedule will be released this upcoming Thursday and we got stories to tell we got things to over analyze we got conversations that mean absolutely nothing at this exact moment that are certainly going to take place around who's going where when Sunday night football has been announced for week one cowboys that giant who could have expected to cowboys are the Giants to be in night one ever week one of Sunday night football obviously trying to get your marquee games in the schedule maker for the NFL is real talent. Okay, and I think obviously with the addition of a I in multiple different as called guy out there now. He's the one doing this thing is expensive though, sir, but they're saying worth it as well as a hundred dollars a month that you're buying clawed drink that's what they're saying you're doing beds of great anyways, Claude and you got the GPT and then you got the grok cycle you got you got all these I assume they're helping the schedule making wizard. I remember last year we had an incredible slate there was bangers every single week 2 years ago there was like a drought during prime time because when you're trying to project who should play in prime time it's like what's the biggest storyline coming out this weekend you can never ever a test for injuries that could occur or maybe teams just being asked out of nowhere so trying to project who's playing when he's obviously a tough task but they seem to do it very well which is why the NFL's ratings are up into the right. Some people say I don't know too much. Some people say. They're going off of what I own just a broadcast channel they're going somewhere else don't like that. I like it either actually this kickoff bunch of bullshit says the president, yeah, the NFL has had become such a successful league that now there's calls into questions on how they're operating at such a massive profit that this is what sports can become is what every other league is thinking whenever you look at the NFL. The sport is obviously the greatest on Earth, but it's worldwide development and talent and evolution of the rules to get to where it is is why everything is everything. The combine everything. A draft everything schedule release everything the NFL is special and we're lucky to be a tiny little piece of it. We'll talk to shifter that we got Sean sharon years a lot of news coming out of the NBA. You see when be high. Yeah, I got problem. That's 9 year NFL. Wow what do you mean problem. I mean what well as fish is those a vicious elbow. I love it. I think when he said you know what I'm done with it. Okay, I'm not getting free. Magus 7 foot 5 elbow who very pointy. I mean that's very pointy but also you know whenever you're trying to leverage. I mean that's a that's a long that's a long way away from the body perfectly position. I mean I think that thing could extend on he's got like an extend the elbow. Yeah, that he just kind of dropped on all 8 reads face there now there was a video from previously in the series where these 2 individuals certainly had a maybe a yeah playoff basketball. Okay, so maybe maybe when he goes home thinks about that will be because I'm bonus and playoff basketball you're talking about a 7 foot 4 young buck who is certainly a rising superstar, a certainly an icon and everything like that but in the officiating size, I don't think they figured out how to officiate him yet because he is both a combination of 7 foot 4, but he's also fluid and smooth but he certainly a dog and you'd like people to remind them of that because whenever he's getting beat up every game at some point, you know. I know you want to hung out with the monks. Sure, yes, I knew he played chess over there in Paris and New York and everything like that. He also want worked out Kevin Garnett right. Yeah, and there's a potential thought to Kevin Garnett is seeing some of this stuff Senate text say hey how much more you know how much more we let them do this and maybe you know when be dug deep into who he is which is an absolute dog this guy's unique. I don't think I could have expected the type of person he is he's one with the universe talks about it. I'm in this universe. I think it's always hang on his elbow and people in the face. He's crossing people up at 7 foot 4 he's dropping jumpers he's in the paint this guy's dishing he's moving this guy's a chef he didn't even know what he checked it was. Yeah, I'm ejected you're ejected who's who I'm ejected me was early in the game. What I mean to Anthony Edwards would just go absolutely bonkers the NBA has its future in the West right here in front of our eyes when be very young ant man very young and we're watching them dole in the biggest way in prime time the NBA playoffs are spectacular and when be something I think we've ever seen before the book absolutely not we might not see him next game. What. Oh. You like that. KG served this guy hanging out with metal world peace. I haven't seen a bow like that since him that was a throwback for real for a little six game suspension there for meta I believe is what that was that was an accident. I was so mad I had some history leading up to when he has no prior experience in this particular world I think is why it was probably so important to him. I think he had to let I legitimately think he had to do it. Well hey I can't just sit here and take this anymore. Now obviously it's a. So that's a bit of a one much different. Yeah but he was talking away was it. He was. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and one half of the hammer. And James Harden by the way still doing it still cooking it. Is this a good way to respond to all the chatter about your game. What chatter on the Internet keeps it moving. Yeah big perk had to go out there and say you know maybe it was me. You know carry on maybe because of what I said about him it motivated him to have his best game Donovan Mitchell also goes crazy in the Cavaliers are back in this series and then if you go stay in the East New York Knicks sweet. She just absolutely dominated the Philadelphia 76 or so much so that obviously we saw the song and dance with Jalen Brunson last year the guy done this. The guy that he just doesn't miss out on how it's possible how somebody like him is just able to go everywhere and play in the same exact he plays the same way don't look like he's faster than everybody definitely not bigger than everybody but he has a better body control seemingly than everybody and he makes every single shot and he never blinks this guy and I don't think this thing just comes out all the time we six celebration. He's a wrestling fan as well and induce McBride out of West Virginia he goes crazy. There was 2 set 2017. Go and say Warriors in the first quarter. They were historic. It was an unbelievable ask beating to put that game away in Philadelphia and I'll tell you what Nick's fans were there. Okay in Philadelphia and they took that entire city over. So Joellen beat obviously afterwards came out and said that he was happy that he was healthy and viewed as successful year and everything like that. Another question his legacy here saying Philadelphia maybe not even sport town anymore says Josh Hart is a hilarious individual. It's just this guy left his mom's mother's a massacre. My mom to grow down with the ship here. It was over there. Josh Hart said what was that about Philly not a sports town anymore. Then he went to the Navy. Yeah I think a lot of people are wondering what how's going on and Jalen Brunson story with Louis will and his dad is all coming out of how close Philadelphia is all this stuff so it's like Joellen B. in that sixers team was an incredible ride of fun ride this year and seeing Joelle be back and be healthy was cool even Paul George had his moments of awesome Max he was faster than everybody on the court at certain different times but them losing in this fashion is certainly going to call into a lot of questions and boy people are saying Philadelphia don't believe in his team does the team believe in the team and what's the future look like in Philadelphia. I'm a trust process until you can anymore but process been a long one been a long one in the next might be going this year. OK let's pivot away from the NBA. Let's go to the NFL joining us live from another commercial shoot superstar legend senior NFL insider Adam Schefter. Yeah. Chef. How are the acting chops going. You think you're nailing your lines and stuff like that. I am about to go make my acting debut upstairs here in dead pool in dead pool together. Oh yeah, I can't wait for that interaction you speaking or just tweeting. I you know I don't even know yet honestly like I was. Whatever he tells me to do I do that. OK I respect that but you should at least have a little bit of a heads up of my what he might be come on chef we need the lines. My wife was like why don't you know more about this. I'm like I don't know more you know like on Friday I'm doing a talk down with the Michigan people said what are you doing. I don't know how do you not know I don't know whatever just tell me we need to get it done. Yeah, I respect that but for the good of being respectful to the acting base OK in the acting this is at least know what our 3 inches are when we're in there. OK how we're entering what we're doing when we're in there and then how we're exiting 3 different first. Oh that you're in there. OK. These are all things that you need to think about obviously and you should obviously take complete direction from somebody that is on set that's supposed to do that whether that's director or Sylvester Stallone has an idea you certainly listen to him I know a little tiny bit about the acting world knowing that just tiny I'm actually saying that it has been so fun to learn about a Peter Berg let me in his movie that was obviously incredible and then get a chance to watch Sylvester Stallone be an absolute beast with Tulsa King I shot a couple of those things just not your lines a little shot for the good of everybody else that's there come on for the good of Deadpool so you know so Deadpool don't have to wait around so you look at the asshole you know what I mean. You're in their world Ryan Reynolds a professional you're in their world chef the hey don't disrespect our on that note. Welcome back to our world brother. It is good to be in our world OK so the schedule release obviously coming out Thursday this has become a massive deal. We know the international teams that are going to be playing we know a couple of the games. What do you think is the big news that could potentially drop out of these international games. Well first of all the release the international games Wednesday morning a good morning football so there's nine of them right now you know where everybody's playing at this point we already know some of the matchups with the Rams and Niners early on the Cowboys and the Ravens early on. You know what happens this week I know the schedule at least is Thursday night 8 o'clock ESPN all those things. What happens is every day there seems to be another element of the schedule that comes out like today they say the opening Sunday night game of the year is the Dallas Cowboys at the New York Giants of the Dallas Cowboys once again on prime time once again against the New York Giants September 13th Sunday night John Harbaugh NFL head coaching debut. And so there's the first essentially announcement this week of all the games that are going to be played and there'll be more Wednesday we'll get the international games. There'll be other news and information that comes out to me and by the time we get Thursday night it feels like most of the information is has kind of been let out by them but we'll see how it works out and I always think the opener the Wednesday night opener this year in Seattle is always a big deal. It feels like that game is going to be either the Chicago Bears or the New England Patriots my guest today and it's a guest would be the Bears in Seattle on that Wednesday night game before we get to the 30 grams 49ers game. Okay I hope that's the case all the games are going to be sweet Thanksgiving Eve is fantastic. I know you have a limited kind of block here in your schedule don't want you to disrespect anybody so let's move to some other prevalent NFL conversations go head tone digs. Chef I can't believe I have to ask you this. So there's reports last week that Aaron was coming to visit the Steelers to talk about some things and maybe you know sign a contract and then there was reports that he wasn't in Pittsburgh then there was reports that he was in Pittsburgh but he wasn't going to facilities only as agent was going to city. Those were there's reports that he came to collect his moon rocks or play golf. I'm not sure. He didn't leave his moon rocks in Pittsburgh. He wasn't going to collect anything but OK. Maybe golf though I heard a lot of conversation. A lot of the locals. Yinsers are kind of looking at big foot it feels like is what town's trying to say. Yeah. It can't play. We're all us is Yinsers just can't believe that we're here again. What's the latest shifty. Well I could say this the report initially came out last week on was it I think it was Thursday that our Rogers was going to be in town and at the Steelers facility visiting if I remember correctly the report Thursday or Friday night. Well the weekend Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday have coming on our Rogers was not at the facility once the Steelers have a voluntary offseason workout program that begins one week from today. I'm going to guess I know last year Rogers didn't show up with the Steelers until June. But if he's going to resign I don't know why that wouldn't be done at some point the next week. But I will say this that when the report surfaced last week that he was back in town visiting the Steelers whatever was nobody nobody in the organization knew about it and his agent didn't know about it. So there are a couple of people in fact they said flat out just not true. So without Rogers you never really know exactly what's right and what's not. Of course but I've always felt like that May 18th date was a date that should be circled for him to come back. I still think the chances are that he comes back I think most people believe he'll be back. He always gets his mind he can always go the other way. I don't think anything's changed. It's the same situation we've had all along other than for the fact that there was that report that surfaced last week that said certain things were going to happen last week that didn't happen last week. He can still spin it you watch. He can still spin it. I know you're in there's are sick of having to wait around where the Pittsburgh Steelers we got to wait for this guy to tell us why they want to play for us and then they hear always come back to sign then they're told no he's actually coming back not sign just kind of play golf and hang out. Well maybe he just wants to be back in the city. Maybe once feel a little bit before May 18th before he has to get back to the building. You love the work maybe he just wants to kind of rebaptize himself at the waters of Pittsburgh and kind of live his life. Maybe he wasn't there at all. And maybe he's literally betting on that off the grid somewhere trying to figure out what the hell he wants to do this life who what he has committed what 20 some years to the NFL let alone 30 some years to the game as a whole. So you know I think it is a deep thinking person who has to make a deep decision about what his future is and for me I think I would have liked to have heard that he's playing with Mike McCarthy again in Pittsburgh but we do a daily sports show. Yes we do. He lives his life. So I think our expectations versus his are a little bit different and we'll see if shefters right about the May 18th deadline but boy him and Mike McCarthy didn't break into it whoo fiery Michael at home dog. I like see this is a true other highlights he looks true while he's going through quarterback. I think like working baby. I don't love out the ball at tip of the nose goes down but I'm not quarterback whisper that would be Mike McCarthy and his entire thing people are saying he looks like he's moving in the sand. It's like he's going through a drill right now that he's just learning with the court even practice whenever we start judging practice film we got to really check ourselves because people could be working on something you could be learning something like for me and there's a couple days where I was changing my drop which would be a drastic move but the process from going from first drop to last drop is certainly going to be one where there's going to be a lot of shanks and there was somebody like courted put it out. I look like ass is like I got work here though. I'm trying to get guys trying to work let's remember that. Okay, if you're a linebacker for the Indianapolis Colts you look fine. I look fast CJ you look fast. Okay, let's talk about another or more free agents alongside Aaron Roger are you breaking news right now. Yeah, we have to do fear in a matter of moment. Yeah, yeah. Oh good. Is it a good photo usage as well. Everyone's while we like seeing what photo you decide to go with a cheeky happy one or is it a little bit more of an angry one is your focus. You know all those things that you talk fast. What is the chef to get what your words per minute to the chat about it not great so far. Yeah. Hold on give me one second Pat hold on one second. Oh no. It's a big one. A lot of words. A lot of words. Yeah, I mean we're also taking his time sweet as time. I mean don't worry about anything else going on maybe somebody else breaking the news. A lot of words probably goes play the legal long time. I'm like Keenan and maybe it was an agent who sent him the information so it's like let's gas up both agent and player a little bit here a little scratch my back you scratch yours like situation is who was it what was it. Okay, we'll post it as we as we say basically we do without the picture because I don't have time to get the picture for you. What the hell you've been doing this entire time. Hold on. I'm holding a format writing it up getting a format is just the dealers have re-streaming with quicker kicker Chris Boswell on a four year 28 million dollars. Wow. Boss they bought the Wizard of Oz. I was with Brandon Arbery as the highest-paid kicker in the NFL. Okay, boss has been in the NFL for 11 Brandon Arbery's been in the NFL for 4 years 2015 I believe is boss's first year. So that's 11 years. Aubrey was what fourth year. Yeah, fifth year. Yeah, first deal up so third fourth year whatever it is Brandon Arbery has obviously been incredible so much fun to watch obviously as a ball kicking person myself. I enjoy watching him do his job him getting paid what he got paid certainly made Boswell probably excited as these negotiations were taking place because boss is missed like 3 kicks in like 10 years and when he misses a kick it's big news to whenever a kicker gets to the point where when he misses it is the headline it is the conversation it's like that's a really good kicker if it was the miss a kick it would be like out of it is losing it he missed a kick you know Justin Tucker got like that for a while boss is like that especially in Pittsburgh and in Pittsburgh it's not an easy time to kick in the people are ready for you to not be the kicker anymore if you're missing kicks very loudly because they played high school football so you're just a kicker even though you're in the NFL I was I was 13 with people but gay linebacker came off the edge hit it you ever hear Nate Hartung yeah go ahead and cover strike him yeah so I don't need to kicker missing kicks get out there make a kick it's also the weather the AFC North sucks congrats the boss getting a deal he won one last year I think you got anything okay on that note last question for you as you break news in the middle of a convoy and are an actor good comment yes after David and Joku went to the Chargers kind of one of those like lingering free agents that everybody you know was a fan of but would probably sign closer to camp are we gonna start seeing those types of guys Debo Samuel Keenan Allen I mentioned those types of players start to sign here and come off the board or when should we expect that. Well you're starting to see that you see Joanne Jennings get done last week you see David and Joku get done this week obviously Mike down assigns with Buffalo earlier today a mere I do like that's filling out the roster and these are the guys that didn't get the long-term deals that they wanted so now they're going to the best one year deals putting themselves in situations that they think they can shine this year and they'll once again become a free agent next year and I just think that they'll be a slow trickle of these types of moves with these types of players up until the time training camp begins there's a reason these guys are out there they're very good they've been they've had excellent careers but obviously it didn't work out for the type of long-term deal that they wanted in the heart of free. All right we appreciate the hell out of you Chefy good luck out there let's remember our lines let's learn what we got to do so we don't disrespect you know the camera people that are there. Sure the script. All I know is all I know is I'm going to get smacked around here by Deadpool a little bit. That's all I know. Have you worked on any good cells you know what your face will have you thought of any of that. Okay yeah I like that. I should have been I should have been learning some of this stuff from you and the WWE guys I could have been ready for this right. You just naturally react in WWE one day you'll get it. Ladies and gentlemen that's senior Adam Shafter. The hell is that about. I think it's a pretty big he's with Deadpool. Yeah it's big one. Yeah. I think you should have at least a little bit of a clue on what you're doing walking into that you know how much money is probably being spent on Deadpool. I just got to be shifty is it actually Ryan Reynolds underneath the mask because they could really stick anybody in there. Well I thought about that when that DJ craze started happening. Oh yeah he's with the super duper head things marshmallow. I was like man yeah I thought DJ Marshmallow is a genius. Hey bud you could do eight gigs at night. Yeah he had to do that had to have. Hey you know we're playing the hits boom boom boom go in there. There's a chance that that is taking place with Deadpool but obviously if Disney is involved here. Shafter should know what the hell he's doing on that note. He knows what he's talking about whenever it comes to ball. I know there was a quick conversation that we had last week whenever he was down at the Michigan Illuminati event that was taking place when they were raising money to buy a better roster for the Michigan Wolverines. I'm not blaming him. Everybody's doing it. I think the Michigan one potentially has the biggest bank account. Yeah involved in all of it. J.J. McCarthy was down there. Then we saw J.J. McCarthy at the wild game. Then we see J.J. McCarthy's conversations and we think to ourselves is J.J. McCarthy going to be able to figure out how to be an NFL quarterback or is Kyler Murray going to be the guy. He had an interesting take on he said I think it's a competition like Shafter was obviously 10 feet away from J.J. McCarthy as he was speaking about it. But I do believe they think that this is going to be a true comp and J.J. McCarthy is seemingly one of the boys up there. Okay Minnesota they like him seemingly. It's like can he be an NFL quarterback and then Kyler Murray it's like we've seen so much greatness out of him. Can he be an NFL quarterback. If you're able to put J.J.'s movie like character leadership okay into and height. Okay. No colors. You don't need to do that. Okay. No I mean that was very fair. Okay we'll take his height and like the way he allegedly is like a movie character type leader of a quarterback like everything he says is straight out of a movie of how a good quarterback would play. If you're able to kind of maybe in Kyler's at a stage of his career with this hometown team that he or his childhood team and his childhood dreams or whatever I think it's going to be a good quarterback room but I think that's Kyler's team just from football sake but maybe J.J.'s won him over too damn much behind the scenes he's going to get another great opportunity. We'll see all the other all the other shit is great but you gotta be able to you gotta be able to sing that that pill out there you gotta be able to throw the football down in and down out we know Kyler can do it like you said all of the other things the intangibles is with KOC has some great weapons around them should have a good offensive line if they're healthy so all the pieces are there but if you're Vikings you've already made that investment you know a decent investment in your first round quarterbacks his third year so it's a big year for him and then the one year investment for Kyler so can he turn things around and maybe be that guy for the next four or five six years. We'll continue to talk about all things NFL because NFL carries all things. Yep, yes it does all day every day and we're very lucky that we get a chance to chat about we love all sports obviously in the NHL playoffs have been spectacular don't look now there was two teams on a collision course for the championship for the Stanley Cup they were both undefeated in the playoffs not even having a loss in the best of seven series 4-0 2-0 where they both going to go 4-0 4-0 4-0 till they run into each other and somebody's going to have to lose well Colorado Havillage lose to the Minnesota Wild Quinn Hughes absolutely filthy goal this entire thing in the Carolina Hurricanes remain the only team that is able to go back to back sweeps in the NHL playoffs they are special that is a special team and now let's go to the West side of this entire division there was something that happened this weekend that it made me start a whole new segment if you're not an NHL fan and you don't have a team I would just encourage you just to turn it on and figure out who you like so many incredible environments so many magical moments happening on the ice and a lot of the guys that you're seeing on the ice like they might have broken everything you have no idea because they don't have to tell anybody they don't tell anybody most of the guys on the ice are willing to fight anybody at any time even if you're 5 foot 8 6 foot 4 guy comes over to you it's a great of a great group of absolute legends on the ice in the sport itself creates these environments that are outrageous that literally made me say that you know I wish I was there I should find out like a mug did you see the Canadians oh yeah this weekend watch it this is what sports can create that nobody else on earth can create.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 about all these young hockey lads. They don't feel the home ice advantage or the away. He'd be hard to go into an actual flaming buzz saw up there in Montreal. And I would never say I wanted to go in Canada. Okay. Ever. Ever. Never? When I was in high school, I was a young lad. I used to drive up to Canada all the time. It was so much fun. Toronto's a good time. Oh my God, it was so much fun. Don't tell that to Gump. Yeah, well, Gump hates Toronto. That's because he's from left Canada. I've never been to left Canada, but I've certainly been to Niagara Falls plenty of times. Actually loved going to Canada. Now, you know, I've read some things about me from a lot of Canadians. So I just think to myself, maybe not where I want to head to at this exact time in my life. Then I saw this with my daughter, Mackenzie, and I were watching this. She was glued to the screen. I'm like, yes, girl. Yeah, this is what sports is all about. What a magical moment of city, obviously community coming around and saying lads, we're going to help you today. Get a huge win. Absolutely huge win at home against his Buffalo Sabres team who has the exact same thing happening in their barn back in Buffalo. The NHL playoffs are creating magical environments. And I think that's a part of it. Just like college football, college football, the pageantry in the environment is what separates it from the NFL. The NFL quality of football, just the good players, the players, so much better than college football. Not, I mean, you get it. It is a better quality of sport, but the sport that is being played on college football stadiums, very good in the environment that is surrounding it, impeccable. It is our best representation of fans, whenever the hooligans of soccer from Europe like to represent. Hockey provides the exact same shit, especially in the playoffs. Montreal on display, Buffalo on display, Minnesota on display, Carolina down there with the boys cranking the siren. I mean, it's a special night, whenever there's a special time when you turn it on and you feel it through the screen. Yeah, even Anaheim out there in California. But last night was by far the best one. This would be the top of the list when it comes to the entire thing. And yeah, right here, them kinda honoring Hakub Dobe. Yeah, the goalie goes crazy. They get a standing ovation multiple times. He is rookie goalie, formerly of Ohio State. Okay, formerly of Ohio State. Up there in Montreal doing his thing as rookie here. Thank you to the Anaheim Playoffs. Let's go back to the NBA, joining us now, I think with some breaking news. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider for ESPN, Shamsherania. Yes, Shams. Shams, how you doing? I'm sorry we made you watch the Montreal experience. It was certainly fantastic. What's going on in your world as you urgently, words per minute, tweet like you're Adam Schefter in the game? Yes, we have news. I'm going to actually say it while I'm on with you guys. Thank you. There will be no further discipline for Victor Wemenyama after he elbowed Nasrede in the face in Minnesota on Sunday night. He was ejected for this play. Multiple sources tell me though that there's not going to be a suspension. No fine. He will be playing in game five as the, you know, I am going to try to get this out. Absolutely. You guys have reactions right now. Yeah, let's do a Twitter pop off. I was, thank you for directing us on how to respond here, Shams. I appreciate you. In the middle of your flow right now. This is a big deal because we had seen elbows in the past, more specifically, metaworld pieces elbow to the head. That was pretty aggressive. I've got a six game suspension. So there was suspension for a potential elbow to jaw situation precedent for it all. He gets none because this first time he's been involved in anything. I think Wemby sets a tone for people like, hey, I'm about sick of the way I'm getting treated. Not only to people who's going to play against, but also I think the league is a whole, fans as a whole. And this is great news for me as a fan of basketball to be able to watch him play as soon as game. As a fan. We have to, one more thing to just keep in mind. He was ejected for this play. So he basically already missed, you know, a significant part of this game. And unlike Ron Artes, a K metaworld piece from before, there's not a history of these types of plays for Wemby. Okay, we appreciate the hell out of that. Wemby can't wait to watch you back on the court. Him saying, I'm ejected. What does that mean? Early in the game. Obviously that provides an opportunity for Ant-Man to go absolutely crazy on Mother's Day. Loved everything about Anthony Edwards in a way. He leads his team the way he plays basketball, the way he answers questions, the way he's been authentic to himself throughout this entire time. And he's leading the state and a team and a franchise in a special way. Wemby not playing, is that a big deal? Of course. Yeah. Well, that's not him Ants fault. Hey, showing the elbow and all that's in the head, cause now I'm gonna take this thing over. He goes bananas and that's special stuff out of the NBA. All right, Shoms, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. You're the best, Shoms. Oh, we draft. Let's talk about draft really quickly. NBA draft, obviously a massive ordeal. The law. Are you gonna ask me about Yanis real quick or no? You're gonna ask me about Yanis real quick? You tell me, is there something about Yanis? We do have some news on Yanis. I'll say this, I'll try to make it as short and as possible. Sources tell me the Milwaukee Bucks are fully open for business on trades and offers around Yanis to the Kumball as we enter the NBA draft combine this week. And we're six weeks away from the NBA draft itself, Bucks owner, Jimmy Haslam said just last week that there will be a conclusion to this saga. We've been, it's been a 12 month ordeal for all of us. But Jimmy Haslam said there will be a conclusion to this that will either result in him signing a long-term extension or a trade. But the conversation, any conversation that the Bucks are gonna have with Yanis of the Kumball, from my understanding it's gonna be a very simple one. Do you wanna stay here long-term and commit long-term in June? The answer from all accounts is gonna be no. And at that point, the question is gonna be, where does Yanis wanna go? Where does he wanna play for and commit long-term? Because he's got just one guaranteed year left on his deal. You guys know this, especially in the NBA, that gives a player of this caliber a ton of leverage, a ton of sway on where he ends up. John Horst, the Bucks general manager has done everything. And I'm talking about everything the last 10 years to try to put together a winner around Yanis. They've traded for Jew Holiday all their traffic. They've traded a bunch of assets away for Damian Lillard. They stretched, they did the largest stretch and wave of a player in NBA history when they stretched Damian Lillard's $113 million contract. They put that on their books for the next five years, and then they went out and signed Miles Turner to $108 million deal. They did that all to try to win around Yanis. The reality has been setting in though for the Bucks. And now they're gonna do their best to work with Yanis over the next several weeks. And there's gonna be a bunch of teams. Miami, Golden State, the Lakers, the Timberwolves, the Cavaliers, a bunch of teams playing in the playoffs right now, teams that are out of it. And we'll see over the next six weeks as Jimmy Haslam said what happens with Yanis. Okay, I appreciate you still on the Yanis beat, you know, as the Greek Freak speaks through sources, his team, the team, I don't know who all leaks information, but I do appreciate that it's- I'll do it, I'll do it. Source, says. From all angles, they gotta get that figured out, obviously, and Jimmy Haslam of the Cleveland Browns and also University of Tennessee volunteers, I do believe. He said he wants it done by the draft. When is the draft? The draft is June 23rd and June 24th. All right, we got some draft lottery conversations to have because I'll tell you what, I don't like it. Ladies and gentlemen, that's senior inside. I was there last night, let me give you a quick rundown. The Wizards, the number one overall pick, you know, they've been rebuilding, they get the number one overall pick. The two big stories though, from the draft lottery, the Pacers, they dropped out of the top four, meaning that their top four protected pick went to the Clippers. The other big story, the Utah Jazz, getting right back to the top of the draft lottery, they slid the last couple of years, they ended up with the number two pick. Okay, we appreciate that, Shoms, you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, senior insider, Shomsheronio. Yes, Shoms! Joining us now, the president of basketball, for one of the teams that slipped out of the protected top four picks, ladies and gentlemen, from the Pacers, Kevin Pritchard. Yay, Kevin! How you doing, Kevin? Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Obviously, I appreciate the fact that you're from Bloomington, Indiana. Hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. Just an hour south here, I went to University of Kansas, played in the NBA, earned your stripes through general management in minor leagues and then for Portland, and then you end up back here in your home state of Indiana. I wanna let you know, we appreciate the hell out of you, and I'm saying we as somebody that has adopted this state as my home. On that note, the hell happened, Kevin. Okay, so Shoms said, Shoms said that the big news, some of the big news is you guys following out of the top four protected pick, but I think I also learned like, if it was 10 and below, it was also protected, it was basically only a few picks. There's no way that you thought this could have been the outcome, or is this what you thought the entire time could potentially happen to the Indiana Pacers who get no luck seemingly effort in the draft lottery? No, we knew that there was a chance we could lose this. I mean, that was a big part of the negotiation, and we would have loved to have kept the pick, but I think context is a big factor, and making it to the Eastern Conference Finals two years ago, making it to the finals a year ago, we knew that we had a whole, we had a great group of guys, a core that we wanted to protect, and we didn't want to trade, and so that left us with really our draft picks to go get a center, and we had looked all over the NBA. We had a lot of discussions, and Zoo was a guy that just kept coming back and feeling great for us, and you have to take these risks. There's about five years ago, we were looking at kind of who we were, and I didn't feel like we were taking enough risks, and so we made a big trade for Tyrese, we made a big trade for Siakam, and we felt like we were one piece away from being in that contender's conversation, and so we felt like Zoo was the right risk, we love him, he was texting with me last night, so we're excited about this team. All NBA defensive player, Zoo, by the way, straight out of the Clippers. Now, also I believe the first four picks of this particular draft for all big men, I believe five was gonna be a guard, potentially you don't need guard at this point, so if you end up losing five, at least you still get a center, which was the piece that you wanted, we lose Ben Matherin too, who's a massive piece, I think, to our run, and can get hot, but it feels like, from all conversations that I've had around your building, which I know you probably don't love, because I'm getting into a microphone, but Tyrese loves the team, Tyrese loves, he loves, what am I calling him, Zoo? Zoo? Zoo? Zoo, Zoo, yeah, Zoo. Zoo, like Zoo downtown, Indianapolis Zoo? That's right, ZU. Zoo Belation, okay, we're going to Zoo there, but I think Tyrese really likes the team, and I think you've come out saying you really like the team as well, although obviously if you get a little bit of luck in that draft lottery of first four pick, it would have been fantastic to the roster as well. How do you feel about where you're at with the team, the build, and what is next for you as you continue to move forward to try to piece together another championship run? Well, when you look at the trade, like, you know, we haven't had a move up in any draft for 37 years, and so I felt like, maybe we would get a little lucky this draft, and getting the pick, those first four players, we felt like were really special. There are other special players in this draft, but you look at our starters, Tyrese, Drew, Aaron, Siakam, and now Zoo with this core, we think we're right back to where we were, and it was a risk, and we were willing to do it, but I couldn't go through this year and think that we didn't have that center, that final piece that could get us to a championship or compete in the East at the highest level, and so we just felt like we had to do it. Okay, I respect the move, I appreciate the move. Obviously, whenever you're sitting in the seat that you sit in, there's gonna be shots to the shins for everything that happens, and there's certainly been some noise. D-butt has a question for you. Yeah, Kevin, after the lottery, you kind of showed some, I guess, transparency, honesty. Set the stage for us, take us back to yesterday, 432 p.m., when you fire off that tweet, on X. What was the mindset, were you potting, were you boozing? What was going on? You were potting, right? That's a good question. I was sitting next to Chad Buchanan, and we looked at each other during the draft lottery, and I go, man, this feels like game seven again, and it really did, and I'm not sorry about doing the trade. I felt like that was the right trade at the right time. What I felt for is Mr. Simon, like 37 years in the draft, or 37 years, and not moving up once, it's just tough. And I felt like we were doing a little luck, and again, you have to take risk. A few years ago, we weren't taking enough risk, and making those Tyrese trades, and Siakum trades, and Aaron Neesmith, you have to take the appropriate risk in this business, and there's something else that's changed in the NBA, and that free agency isn't really free agency. Teams re-sign and keep their best players. So now you have the draft, or you have trade. Draft is risky business. It can be great business, and there are drafts that are better, and this draft looks like it's gonna be a terrific draft, but we couldn't have done this trade if last year we didn't trade our pick into this year. So we used that asset, and we got Zoo, but trading is the way you get players now, and you have to take some shots, and hopefully this one works out. We think it will. We love Zoo. I mean, we love Zoo. We love what he's about. He's tough. I remember seeing a game when we played the Clippers, he had 30 points and 29 rebounds. He just kicked our bus, and sometimes you wanna get elite talent, but you also wanna get true fits, and he's a true fit for us. So we'll see. The story hasn't been told yet, you know? We'll see. But the other thing to note is this. So where do we stand today, right? Like, that's the most important thing. Where do we stand today? We've got a starting five that we feel good about. We have a bench that's improving, and TJ McConnell and Obi and Huff, and those guys have some serious experience now, and we have five of our next six years drafts. We're not one of those teams that threw five or six picks into the future. We now have five in the next six, so we still have the ways to improve the team over the next few years. I can't wait to watch your work. I appreciate you. Thank you for standing on your decision and your moves while obviously the kitchen got hot, and I appreciate the fact that you felt the pressure of like a game seven to win that lottery, and then you're bummed out. You're bummed out. You want to let everybody know. I saw the video of the kid in the living room dropping and collapsing. I feel the same way here, but let's go to work. You too. You're the man. Thank you. Thank you for having me, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Kevin Pritchard. Yeah, Kevin. No, the Pacers never had a number one pick, but they had it once, trade away. They also never had a number one pick to play for them either. Oh, boo-hoo! Could have drafted later. The trade's stuck. That's the real story. Excuse me. Number one overall picks matter, brother. Let's look around the playoffs. Oh, I don't know. Ant-Man, Sure. Cade Cunningham, Wemby, Carl Anthony Tons, LeBron James, LeBron James, LeBron James. These are all the number one overall picks. You know, it does matter whenever that happens. And to Kevin Pritchard's point, we kind of heard what he was saying where like, hey, building these teams is this. It's either trade, which the players are basically in control of nowadays, or it's you get lucky and hit in the draft and you happen to get a pick that is in the pool of elite players. Joining us now is a guy who got fined this year at one point. Cade did. Because he was trying to maybe sweeten the lottery pot. Yeah. To move up in the draft. Ladies and gentlemen, the man who owns the Utah Jazz and the number two overall pick in this year's NBA draft, Mr. Ryan Smith. Yeah, Ryan! What's up, dude? What's up, boys? Hey, congratulations on the number two overall pick. We like this, right? This is good, because I- Yeah, there's no question. Anytime you move up in the draft, I just heard Kevin, like, you know, I first of all, I empathize for him because I felt that three times sitting in that room. That feeling sucks. It sucks. And it's hard for the fan base. It's hard for the season. And look, we, after three tries, we're on the other side of it. So it felt pretty good. I like that. The luck is slightly different than Simon's. 37 years, never hitting it. Year four here, you get a chance to move up to number two. The big conversation is AJ out there, BYU, obviously. He's not gonna be a Utah Jazz player because he's the clear cut number one. But then there's maybe a little bit of a conversation. Hold on, now! Number two overall pick with something else. He's quite a little packaged to maybe move up just one spot with Washington. The rumors already starting, especially with the ties to the number one overall pick in the state that you love and have developed so much. What are your thoughts on it all? And where do we sit as of this particular day with your thoughts on what can happen with the number two overall pick? Yeah, I mean, so first of all, I've hired a pretty good team here that works with Danny Angel and Austin. And, you know, they've got a pretty good track record of how they handle the lottery. And there's a lot of time between now and then to see how things go. I think our ultimate goal is to build a championship and it'd be irresponsible if everything wasn't on the table to do that. And that's kind of our job. As an owner myself, you know, it's a real interesting thing because I wanna be involved, but Danny's also made a living off over-involved owners. Right? And so I always try to sit back and say, hey, look, these guys are here. We haven't even gotten together yet. They're all in Chicago. I'm heading there and like, we'll sit down and like, we'll go through it. But the good news is, I think that if you look at the bottom half of this or the top half of this draft, it's pretty incredible. And, you know, you're looking out and you're saying, hey, there could be, you know, a few, you know, seven to 10 time All-Stars. Well, congratulations to your team hitting this and moving up in the draft. And you taught Jazz seemingly being on the up and up because it wasn't too long ago where you were getting fined for being asked. On purpose. They said, this guy's team two ass at the wrong times. They gotta be trying to lose. You benefit from this. And we talked to you after the season about the fine and you talked about like, oh, I created this. What are we even talking about in this entire thing? But certainly a problem. I hope it gets addressed. Now you said in that conversation as well, you're at a point where you're out of that. You feel good about what you kind of had to go through here the last few years as you try to find a winner out there and you trust Danny Angel's vision. You still feel like that right now. And how good of a payoff is it that the number two overall pick is kind of the final piece of the pie maybe? Yeah, I mean, you know, my comment to you guys was just, you know, it's rebuilding. We're all rebuilding in the NBA. And I think if you look at Washington, if you look at Chicago, if you look at Memphis, you know, right or wrong, these are rebuilding teams that, you know, depending on how long each of them have been in there, have a chance to kind of get out of that. And I think we're one of those. And so, you know, the league is talk to all of us. The cool thing I've always said about this league is we make changes. You know, I don't want to be a part of organization that it's, hey, it was done this way in 1980. We're doing it this way going forward. The world's changed, media's changed, television's changed, the players have changed. So it's like, hey, how do we adopt and go forward? And I think that all the right discussions are happening. I personally thought the lottery, obviously it was good yesterday, but I thought more than that, I thought the right teams for the most part were able to do it. I think it's super empathetic of Brooklyn and, you know, Sacramento have kind of been down there for a little bit and I've been there. Like it's a hard feeling and you're kind of looking there like how do I get out of this in a little bit of a way? So I think that with some rules and some protections and how we deal with unprotected picks or protected picks and, you know, some of these things, like we could really be on the right track because I mean, it is made for television. You know, that video you were talking about with the Indiana kid, like the amount of videos I've seen of Utah fans, like every pick to the point where, you know, someone flips over Sacramento, it's purple as well. And like my son's like, whole world, he started screaming and then it was like, no, that was another team and we're not cheering, but everyone is following along on the edge of their seat. It's insane. And, you know, you can see Chianti, Chianti didn't show one ounce of, you know, emotion one way or the another. He's just sitting there like this and it was like, it was good vibes. So, you know, I think we got to the point. Locked in at number two, Wizards, end up with the number one overall pick, you know, or maybe not, you know, maybe there's a trade before and all options are on table. You never know what's going to happen, but sitting at number two currently could be very interesting. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, right. Some of my favorite theories on the internet revolve around who the Jazz are going to take in coming in at number one is Carlos Boozer is going to make you take his son. Is that something that you have to kind of make him leave the room when you're talking about Boozer? I just read his scouting report on all the players. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Boo's already texted me this morning, let's go. Like, you know, Booze is a pro. He understands this and, you know, he's raised a couple of great kids. Like they've, you know, these kids are winners and they've shown who they are. And he's got to be pretty proud right now as a parent, no matter how it shakes out. And like I said, there's a lot of, there's a lot of pasture between here and the lotteries we've seen before. I mean, you look back to Danny in the past with having the number one pick in Boston with Markel Foltz and Jason Tatum. You look at how this goes, a lot of stuff will shake out. And I think our job, and I think everyone's job is to try to be as open as you can as you go through this. And good. And good. Yeah, yeah, be good for sure. Also, let's be very transparent with what's possible here. And you're sitting in a great position, Ryan, and we think you've earned it and you deserve it. Cause you took a lot of heat. I appreciate that guys. And before we pivot to the other league that you're also involved with, last question here about NBA, pretty topical. Go ahead, D-Bot. Yeah, obviously at NFL, they got it sorted out with their rest, but it's been a lot of conversation about the refereeing in one of your leagues as far as, you know, flopping and all these different types of things. How do you feel about the status of the referees in your league? And do you guys have some plans to talk about some things this off season? Yeah, it's hard, especially with replays and everything. I mean, I thought the crew last night with the Wimbay Amma, like they made a tough call. And I think it was obviously the right call. Like it's hard to be a ref. It's getting super physical, as you can see. I mean, first of all, like I watch every game. Like I'm a Hoops fan through and through. Like it was, you know, these games are awesome. Awesome. Like that game was an awesome game last night. How about Andy Edwards turning that thing on too, immediately afterwards on Mother's Day, shouting out his mom who's passed, his grandma was passed from draft night. He was actually sitting on his couch in Atlanta with pictures of his mom and his grandma next to him, alongside the rest of his family. And then on Mother's Day to just absolutely go crazy. What, like 14 days after hyper extending his knee and getting bone bruised. It's like, when the obviously showcasing aside of them that we didn't know he had, wow, seven for four, a monk hanging out guys, an absolute dog as well. It's like your league's filled with special stories, man. Very special stories. Yeah, and these guys are smart and they're athletic. And you know, the coaches are smart. And the data and the analytics, like it's just, you've got to keep tweaking it and keep evolving. And you know, there'll be a lot of meetings, but you know, it's tough to go through any NBA game where you're like, okay, everyone got it right. Like the players don't get it right. The refs don't get it right all the time. But I think, you know, I'll just be honest. One of the things I do love about the NBA is the amount of replay that we can go back and look at times on these critical calls. Like, you know, there are other leagues where a game's decided by something that wasn't accurate, you know? And I think that's where, that's where we're trying to work a little bit. Are you talking about VAR and soccer? No, that's the right call. That's the right call. Come on, you guys. Hey, the soccer and it's past week. Hey, it's dealer's choice on where you want to go with that, but like, it is, it is like, like, there's somewhere, I think in the NBA, you get down to the last couple of minutes, like they can just say, hey, we're going to go look at it. And you know, we're not going to always get it right. With size of court and in arena can get cameras basically on everything. And I appreciate that you guys are humble enough in the refs over there who've been around forever. I like, I like the brothers. Yeah, Tony. I've been in league longer than you. I'll get you. Hey, I'm a little bit more part of this thing than you are. You need to watch your actions. It's also weird is when you're not involved with it, it's always like different. But then like, if that's our team and we're on the court, you're going to see me like going a totally different direction here. Yeah, do as I say. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's honestly like, I think that's how everyone is like, you're in the draft room, it's hell, it's broken. Like you move off, it's like, oh, it's great. This ain't, this ain't how I was supposed to go. You move up to two. I like to work with goodness. I kind of go with TV. It's human nature. And there's just so much on the line for everybody. And you try to remove yourself and take a step back. And, you know, watching, watching some of the guys in the draft room last night, knowing what that feels like, I'm trying to be like, okay, wait, as we go into the rule changes and everything else, like how do we not just pick something that's, you know, current or, you know, you're fighting your last battle. It's gotta be like, okay, what's, what's out there? Because at the end of the day, we all own 3% of the league. And, and that's how you got to look at it, as opposed to just, hey, we own the Utah Jazz or the Knicks or we're, we're over here. It's like, there is a time to push the NBA. You gotta pitch that Salt Lake City, Utah owner for sure. This has been bad since the beginning of time with leagues. Okay. Cities in the middle of the country, looking at the coastal leaders teams. Hey, are we a league here? Or are we equal? This is Jerry Jones's story. He's from the beginning of the collective bargaining agreements and how the Cowboys are viewed versus everybody else. Wait, so you're telling me my team's gonna be funded. Everybody's team is like, we need you. If you want a league to happen, we kind of need you. I'll think on it. I will think on it. Well, I'm gonna sign this side deal here though. I'm gonna sign this side deal here. I gotta do it. My network. Quarterbacks for doing it with players. I mean, it happens everywhere. Now let's go to another league that you are obviously in and having quick success. And I assume falling in love with as we come up on a hard alcohol head tone. Yeah, right. Obviously the momentum with the mammoth after this season is incredible. First playoffs took the Knights to six and we're leading in a lot of those games. It was an incredible series. Very, very fun to watch. So what was your kind of takeaway after your first experience in the playoffs with the mammoth and moving forward in the NHL and how that's going? So first of all, it was insane. Like, I think we're proud of the guys, what they've done in two years. They weren't, and I think all of us thought that, that was a very close series and could have gone either way. Having two of the games going to overtime where we were both leading and specifically the one in Vegas where we were up and they tied it with 52 seconds left or whatever it was. Like, I think some of our questions were answered is like, okay, what do our guys have? I think they had like nine or nine or something Olympic medalists or Olympic players. And here we are like on kind of the opposite side of that. So there are a lot further in the journey than we are. But I think if you look at our future, you look where we're headed. But more than that, the way it invigorated our state and the entire community, it was special. Like it was something that I just can't even describe. Like just everyone coming around for hockey, those playoff games, building up to the playoff games, it was pretty epic. I'll tell you what, your bra culture up there in Utah up there in the mountains, you know is spectacular and unique, I think to you, especially in ownership of two leagues in United States of America in 2026, where the amount of capital that you have to have to have a professional sports team is outrageous. We wanna let you know, we're proud of you buddy. We're proud of you. Oh yeah, right. And you talk about- We're just getting started. Well, that's why you said you reinvigorated, it reinvigorated the state of Utah. It's like that has been your mission since the beginning of this entire thing. I know you're a BYU guy, but you are trying for the entire state of Utah to kind of be put on the map in a bigger way for sports and what the fans are. And we got pictures of the shit that you're building out there, the SEG sports complex that I got a chance to go see. Gumpy was out there whenever we did college game day. We got a chance to see kind of the progress. That's our new Hoops practice facility that should be done at the kind of the start 27. So next year you'll see that hockey's on the left, our corporate offices and everything we're running in the middle. And then the Hoops side, this is a view from our court with those mountains there. Our goal was kind of to bring this thing a little closer to the mountains. It's something that we can authentically own that's different and it's the version of kind of all of our guys touching grass every day where they can be there and kind of have this wellness moment every time they come in. And that's, you know, every state's got authentically owned something. And I think most people come to Utah to kind of get away and have that we've got to bring that into our sports and kind of combine that. So we're making a big effort to kind of show our highlights here and why people want to be here. I mean, I saw pictures of Connor McDavid in Southern Utah this weekend. Like the NHL guys are vacationing here. Like this should be something that our guys are like kind of being able to take in. Historically, everything's been downtown. So we're moving a little bit south with the practice facilities right up against the mountains. And like that view is healing. That's like what we love. That's what people do when they want to go get away. And so we got to embrace that and own it for the people who live here. Yeah, certainly, absolutely. Congrats to you on that kind of being the, we got a chance, you bought a mall, by the way. You pull that back up. That was a mall. He buys a mall, turns Nordstrom into the Jazz, turns J.C. Penney into the Mammoth, turns our sax fit into the whole thing. Yeah, that's literally what they did. Broke it. We got some more stuff coming announced this week. We're just going to keep building on to this. And I think it's no different than the Thunderdome boys. Well, a little different. A little different. You got escalators. You got a food court. Mottons. Yeah, you got a parking for 10,000. Corn dog on a stick between practice. Yeah, exactly. And also, I think there's a medical facility he's got in there, like they're building up a medical facility over there for the state. Got the Xanth. Yeah, like the Xamboni. The Xanth is there. The Xamboth is obviously there. It's, and then also downtown Salt Lake, you're also investing in, which I would like us to showcase. The Delta Center, obviously, you have to flip into a full NHL arena. You're in the middle of renovations. That should be done. You're spending so much money. You're building an entertainment district or helping build an entertainment district downtown. For a guy to put on his state in this big of a way, I think is admirable. I want to let you know, it's inspiring what you're doing over there, brother. I hope you understand that while you're getting shot in the shins, whatever your team's doing, champions. Hey, we got to take a little bit of shrapnel, but like at the end of the day, I've always had a sin. Tune out the noise and play the long game. And the long game here is like, we've got a chance to really highlight. I mean, what you're looking at now is going to be ground zero for the 2034 Olympics, which we want absolutely, absolutely everybody out there. I mean, this is going to be insane. That's what we're going to be for the winter classic this year for hockey. Ooh. Like, are you getting, I mean, we start on Thursday on New Year's Eve. We're going to do a concert at the Delta Center or something that night. It's going to be an all weekend party. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, come ski, like we're hosting in Utah. So I think if you look at, you know, it's the easiest place to get in and out of. I mean, it's the only place with seven ski resorts within 20, 25 minutes. And it's almost like two different climates right next to each other with Salt Lake. And it's pretty sweet. So we're just trying to be a little more accommodating. I think every generation needs to carry their weight on how they help with city building. You can't skip generations. Because when you put the people in, stuff starts to go a little down, just like the wear and tear. And so it's our turn. It's our generation to come do it. And there's not an economic booster that is sports, that is like sports that is available for any city and state. We haven't found one. You know, what sports does to bring the community together, to boost the economy, to change cities, it's 10X what a Nordstrom can do on a mall. Like it's incredible. And so I think what we're trying to do is just ride that wave. And we're just blessed that we have, I mean, I'm not saying this, like we have the most amazing people in Utah. And they're all here for a reason. A lot of people have moved in, a lot of people have grown up here, but the people are nice. It's the way that you think it really could be in America. And I love every ounce of that. And we're not perfect. We're not perfect as a state, but I choose to live here because, you know, there's nothing you can't do out of Utah. I love everything about it. Our goal with boobs is winning a championship. Yeah, and hockey. You keep selling it like this though. We're all gonna move and ruin it for you. Yeah. On that note, we appreciate the hell. We can't wait to see you. You're playing by the, Ryan Smith. Yeah. We're back on the other side. What a pitch for the steady Utah. I believe them. We'll see you there.哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 activate now. Sports are the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. Tye Schmidt. We love you. Baby. Buds human buds right now. Oh yeah. Buds is what Navy folks have to go through to become a Navy shield. Obviously there's different special forces bootcamps that take place. Buds has become very famous because the amount of documentaries and what a nightmare it would be to have to get through a lot of water, a lot of swimming, a lot of sleep, all that type of stuff. Human buds is the first couple of weeks after a new baby is born. Yep. There's a lot of sleep and there's a lot of panic. There's a lot of anxiety. There's a lot of paying attention. There's a lot of heightened senses and that's for a we would just like to let Tye and his bride know his entire family. Congratulations. Hell yeah, Schmidt. Can't wait to meet. Ladies and gentlemen, 9 year NFL vet, Darius J. Paul. Hey, Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Manhattan, Ohio is a college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ. How are you doing, Paul? I'm doing great. Ryan Smith has me wanting to learn how to ski and check out Salt Lake City that I would have, would have sell for the whole city and the whole state. Yeah, it was quite a pitch. I'll tell you, there's three minute break that we have to take. We moved it from 57 to one of two because I did want to showcase what he's building out there and what is possible because of sport, because of how much he feels like he needs to take care of his home city and his home state and through sport is how he's trying to do it. I wanted to showcase that a little bit. So we go ahead and push the three minute back a break back until 102 Eastern or whatever that three minutes involved a lot of oh, yeah, in my mind. You talk about the show. Those mountains. Sure. And then there's an NBA team. There's an NHL team there. Okay. Do they got a US Super duper FL team? What's that? Do you build the studio? I think we can find room in the mall. They don't they don't have a US Super duper team, but then you also think about the Olympic training that goes on like and then seven resorts within 20 minutes. I don't know anything about skiing, but I know you got to drive a long ass way normally to get up to those mountains. Salt Lake nice. We think yeah. What is it? They drink a lot of diet. No booze in out there. No doubles. Yeah, I can't get it. Can't get a double. That is why I think there's I think there's booze. In the state. I'm from my understanding there's booze. I have boozed out there. I'm just saying that was kind of the thought, but nonetheless, beautiful place. He certainly made the pitch. Let's move forward on this particular program. We are incredibly lucky that we get a chance to be a part of some massive days for some future absolute legends and studs. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another commitment. Oh, it's a big day. Some big name. Locking in the place. Some big game. Oh, it's a big day. Some big name. Locking in the place. Some big game. Where you going next recruiting is like chess. Got a full D if you want to be the best and not sit on the show. Oh, where you going to go? Oh, everybody waiting. They all want to know. Good. It's a big day. For some big names. Locking in the place. Some big games. Locking in the place. Some big games. That's right. Locking into playing some big games. Who's going where next? Well, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. Look at the highlights, by the way, of what we've been pretty good. That's crazy. I almost dropped a tear there. How Pete's going to get drafted this year. He's in that video. Yeah, certainly. Yeah. I was going like pretty as I was watching the highlights, I almost got like a tear to my eye. Like I'm proud of these lads. Hopefully they view us as they go through. Their professional football careers were so incredibly lucky to be a part of one more here today. Let's go to St. Joseph Ogden High School in Illinois. The home of the Spartans and six foot seven 300 plus pounds left tackle. Ladies and gentlemen Cameron Wagner Cameron. So what's up? All right. Hey Cameron. I love that you have a microphone. I got a microphone. I got a microphone. Hey Cameron, I love that you have a microphone. I got sent a picture of the auditorium from my understanding. The Spartans have shown up out there. Good to see you all. Good to see you all out there. Can they hear us? Yeah, they can hear you. Okay, good. I didn't know if they said hello. I thought we had some Illinois politeness issues going on. They don't have a mic. Okay, okay, got it. Okay. Cameron, we're so lucky and pumped to be a part of this day for you. You're six foot seven 300 plus pounds. And I don't know if they're sitting next to you or if everybody's standing next to you right now. Did you know you were going to be a monster and how long have we been working on the past set and what is this recruiting process been like for you? I mean, yeah, I've been playing football since kindergarten and my dad told me all through the way and just ever since day one, I was always off in Salaman. So I just love it. We love watching your highlights. Okay, some of them, you know, are you guys shooting highlights? Do you guys shoot your games from a helicopter? You know, you are here. We haven't been, we had to zoom in on a few. You're driving guys that are on the ball right across from you 20 yards down the field and you're such a gigantic human. You can't even see them on the other side of there. Obviously smothering and incredible talent. And obviously there's been schools across this country that would like you to come play for them. Cameron, I would love for you to take this moment alongside your family and friends there and let the world know what's next for you. Yeah, absolutely. I want to thank first of all my parents and everybody's got me along. It's been all the coaches that are here today and everybody's auditory. That's great. I have a whole school here. So I'm sure thank you for everybody. And with that being said, that's 34 years I'll be committing to University Oregon. Okay. Congratulations Cameron as we, we congrats dude. Yeah. That's amazing. That is unbelievable. Obviously you're from Illinois. You commit the Eugene. It is absolutely glorious out there. Can you tell us quickly why Oregon and what you're expecting when you get out there? I didn't hear even you just say it honestly. Okay. Well on that note, why Oregon and then congratulations and enjoy the hell out of today. A lot of hard work went into it from a lot of people. I mean, yeah, so there's a million reasons to organ honestly. Just when I go out there, it's, I just feel the most comfortable and I have the conference coach, Harry and coach landing that they can build me a degree NFL player and a great man off the field as well. And I just think that when I go out there with Avery Michael and stuff like that and just for the other online commits in their room, I think we're going to measure the world together and be a great all it's a line unit. Hell yeah, brother. If you need any tips, I got to go to catch you all right here. Right here. You know, if you need a Cameron on that note, good luck. Congratulations to the entire family and shout out to the Spartans producing the next stud of the Oregon Ducks football team. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Cameron Wagner. Yeah, Cameron. I like the auditorium packed. Yeah, I play showing up. I like that they were the ones cutting the camera over there. That was like maybe a high school TV production that cut the camera to the audience. I appreciate them doing that. Then they got scared to death. Nobody told us to do that flipped right back to Cameron, right? In that entire thing. So respect to whoever was on the on the board on the board over there. We got a text that was like, Hey, the athletic director and the principal would like to clear out and have like the whole school basically show up if you could tell us what time you'd want to do this. So the ability to be able to pull that off and be appreciated that much by your school while being an offensive lineman. Congrats to him. Dan landing pulls in a six foot seven dude from the middle of America to go to Oregon. Yeah, his myths around that might like you could tell how big that motherfucker or excuse me was, but just from from his hands look at that microphone. Yeah, is this one where he goes all the way down the field? Yeah, yeah. Place over guys been tackle for three minutes. That's a great play. He's laughing that entire time. I assume that it appears to be his style. Uh, Dan landing gets another, you know, it's kind of become a trend here. It feels like on this particular program only a few different, you know, schools getting selected. We've had Texas. We've had, uh, Oregon. We've had Miami. We've had Ohio State. That's another name. That's another day. You remember, and I just as this conversation, I should have remembered it earlier. Um, we had a left tackle commit to Oregon on the show before he was six, seven, three 50. I believe his name was Emmanuel Ian Nacho, and I believe he's going to be a freshman there this year and potentially start. So I believe our last six, seven, 300 plus tackles that have committed on the show have both gone to Oregon in this scenario. I love everything about that. There is more college news happening. Uh, obviously interesting situation brewing for one of the nation's best running backs. I got a video from Pete Tham will explain again. Missouri tailback of Maude Hardy is in stable condition in a hospital today in Mississippi after a gunshot wound that required surgery. I've been told by sources that the injury is certainly serious, but is not considered career threatening. There is no timeline according to Missouri of Hardy's return from this injury, but there is a general expectation that this is not a career threatening injury. And while certainly serious, I've been told Hardy is alert and he is up and about and there is an expectation that he will eventually return to the field as for details on the shooting. There's a lot of ambiguity around that right now. And there has been no formal police statement as of yet saying what happened in the incident. All right. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Breaking that all down. I literally asked him, I said, Hey, what's the Maude Hardy situation? What does everybody know? And he said, let me get back to you. You want me on the show? I was like, you can just send a video if you don't have time because I think he's in the middle of running to a couple of different college football events literally today. So him setting that obviously anytime somebody gets shot, it's incredibly scary. Had surgery is stable return. He didn't say this year or just return to football as a whole. But hopefully he returns as soon as possible. That's a hell of a football player out there from Missouri. He's unbelievable. He's unbelievable. In the last two years, he's had 3000 rushing yards and 29 touchdowns. That's just that's just in the last two years. He was at one point. I don't remember if he finished last season as leading rusher in FBS, but he was definitely for the majority of the season. One of the best running backs in college football going to be drafted as one of the best running backs in college football. So hopefully he does come back this year and everything is okay. There was some other big college news too over the weekend at University of Miami. Crystal ball flipped five star Dante Wright saw that highest rated corner in the University of Miami's history to commit there. So, wow, where's they from? He's from LA Long Beach, probably, I believe so five star thing like six to 170 unbelievable get for crystal ball down there. My Hayes faucets on top of it all. Okay, always can't Cam Wagner's direct by the way, Cam Wagner direct text to us didn't have full team. That's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. I respect that whole line. I very much respect that he sent the text to me was like, do you guys do you guys mind if I have Hayes faucet put out a graphic that I'll be announcing on your show. And I'm like, no, no problem at all actually shout the Hayes faucet becoming that. Yes, yes, like that was every time you know what I mean. So that's a that's an incredible hustle, especially in the high school signing NIL phase that we're in right now. Hayes and on three kind of on top of it on a regular basis. But yeah, obviously, or crystal ball has been able to do down there in Miami to create the you to be the you again. Yeah. And whenever you get in the highest rated person, that's like somebody going to Ohio State or Bama or somebody for something. I mean, healthy plans out obviously, but that's a great, great gift for Chris. But I wonder where that Miami 2027 class ranks now. It's got to be top two, three at this point. Yeah, who's always in the top? Well, I think we're going to see a few schools every year. And I think Oregon's going to be one of them. No doubt. I think Ohio State's going to be one of them. Okay. Obviously, I know the SEC is going to represent Kirby smart. We have nothing but faith in is going to be fantastic. Lane Kiffin down there at LSU is he going to go crazy? How about golden down there and almost he's going to continue to be spectacular. I think there's going to be a lot of incredible storylines. And the reason why I'm most excited because we've passed the halfway point. We're on the back nine. Yes, we are the next college football. This was from Saturday or Sunday. I retweeted it obviously Sunday. Okay. This is just yesterday. So we are currently a hundred in 10 days away from college football. Shout out to CFB Kings on X for using the West Virginia Mountaineer Stadium saying, Hey, we're halfway home. So congrats to all of us. AJ, we're almost back to big time college football. Yeah, congrats to us. I guess it is kind of telling that he puts this the West Virginia pick with this. You think he was fishing for a week or retweet from me? Yeah, is it possible? It's possible. It's not a bad play by this. Not a bad play by CFB Kings. No, I don't know if the college football world really thinks like I'm in it, you know, from like a social standpoint, actually. I think that's the standpoint that does. I don't know about that. People with brains do. Yeah, exactly. What are the reasons why West Virginia be on there? I mean, it's be serious. It's West Virginia. It's West Virginia. Maybe they want to highlight. They're one of the, what was like nine power four schools that didn't have a draft pick. Maybe they just wanted to let the girls know. You know what? You know what? Maybe people were putting West Virginia. I think that's the kind of up right now. People are showing Pat White highlights his past. This guy is way ahead of his time. I saw Owen Schmidt running through some of his face once again. He has a book out about being an absolute badass. I believe it's something about, I don't know if the beer truck is in the name of the book, but it's certainly worthy of watching the entire thing. Rich Rodriguez is bet he does have great beer over there. Rich Rodriguez dominated. And oh, yeah. Do you remember Noel Devine? Yeah. His highlights hit the internet as well. He said, oh my God, I forget about this guy. And then a bunch of people who know ball followed up with saying you should see his high school highlight reel. I think West Virginia is kind of up right now. Who's got the college ball crown, by the way? You're talking about in hoops? Yeah. You're talking about winning in March a tournament? Yeah. The West Virginia Mountaineer. So kind of up into the right for the Mountaineers. And oh yeah, we turned down the $30 million loan thing at 10, 12%. So we aren't desperate for nothing over there. Noel Devine, absolute stud. Tavon Austin, his highlight. Magic. He's got some studs. I mean, Geno's still playing. He scored 80 points in the orange ball. I forget what it was. Oh yeah, spinning. Against Clemson and then let alone against Texas. West Virginia has a chance of being a fan. You know what? Fuck it. I'm picking him to win in that. He joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, not. What? Why not? Oh, I thought you were saying I'm not. No, I'm not. I think you said that. No, aren't you taking Yukon? No, I don't think anybody's doing that. You're one. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who, he's a staple of the hockey community now. And this past weekend, got a chance for somebody else to say, hey, this guy's doing good things up here in Montreal as well. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. A guy who played in the NHL for 13 years. He's won Olympic gold. And just completed a $10 million donation to the Montreal Children's Hospital. Guy who has the best costumes on air right now. Yep. Sorry. Outfits on air right now. P.K. Subban. Yeah. P.K. Yeah. Outfits. Outfits. Not costume. Yes. No, they're kind of costume. Yeah. Kind of, kind of a little bit of a costume out there. P.K. Subban talking hockey. We appreciate it. Congrats on getting recognized by, from others about the work that you were doing without us knowing about this. I had no idea that you were 5 million, 6 million, 7 million, 8 million, 9 million, whatever million in for the Montreal Children's Hospital. Very cool of you to do this. And can you tell the story behind this? Allegedly you made a pledge that you would do this like years ago. And then completing that obviously is something that many people would just opt out of doing, especially if they move out of town, out of town, out of mind. Continuing to stay on it, I think is admirable. And I'd love to hear a little bit more from you. Yeah. And I'll try to put it all in a nutshell for you, Pat. How it kind of came about was, plan in Montreal when I started my career, the winters were brutal around Christmas. And we'd always get like one or two days, sometimes three days, but most of the time it was one or two days to go home and go into Toronto was easy as an hour flight, but the weather was so bad as a rookie and a young guy, you just never want to be late or be stranded. So I would stay in Montreal. I stayed in Montreal the first two or three years of my career over Christmas. And on Christmas Eve, I just didn't go to any of my teammates' houses, not because they didn't invite me, guys invited me, but you know, I always had this thing like at Christmas, time Thanksgiving, you want to be with your family. You know, I don't mind. I know there's other people I can go, but everybody wants to be with their family. So instead of doing that, I started going to the hospital with the media relations at Montreal and just giving toys to the kids on Christmas Eve. My parents, my dads, the principal, both of my sisters are teachers, my sisters ex-husbands and teachers. So a lot of educators in our family, we work with kids. So it was just a natural instinct for me to want to help. And through that relationship, when I signed my contract, the hospital came down the highway, down the 401 to Toronto and presented me with this opportunity to do something special. They're like, you know, we think that this could be something that fits you. And I looked at my mom, my dad, and they're like, hey, listen, if this is something you want to do, we support you. And I did it, you know, why? Why 10 million though? Like why do that? And I think that the 10 million wasn't my idea. Right? It was, they presented it to me the way that I could help over hundreds of thousands of families, millions of families. Once they started talking about those numbers, I'm like, wait, like what? Like that many families and people I can help. And they're like, yeah. And you know, so I was, I was all in at that point with my family support, but my grandmother passed away from cancer at 59. So when I started my junior career as a part of Livestrong, you know, with Nike, and then I had this experience with this boy, Alex Shapiro, who was 11 years old, Martin Ross, my old minor hockey coach coached him. I got to meet this kid who ended up having leukemia who passed away. And through those two experiences, I just decided to dive in a little bit more and not want to spread myself all over the place. Just do something that was closer to home for me. And this was that. And it wasn't easy, you know, getting traded two years into my contract did not make it easy going through a pandemic. Didn't make it easy. But the reality is, is like, no one donates more money to my charity than me a year. I write the biggest check every year and I have since it started. And I'm very, very proud of it because it wasn't always easy, but happy that I was able to help. Oh yeah, PK. Hello, PK. It all started with PK Subanta Claus. Oh. Obviously it becomes, you know, $10 million in donations to a children's hospital that probably has had some groundbreaking research through maybe some sort of kid cancer leukemia stuff that could affect our kids and the future as a whole. So I appreciate you doing that. You know, everybody talks about how much money somebody's been made. It happens with me a lot. And I'm just, you know, I understand the thought because I was probably like this before as well. But anytime somebody who is successful gives money, everybody's like, ah, it's a tax write off. Like I give $100,000 to a college kid who just made a kick. Like, ah, it's a tax write off. It's like, yeah, the government's going to give me money. Yeah. Okay. For Henry Sissler down in Georgia. And they're like, well, you got a lot of money. The percentages, whatever you're giving away, it's like, why doesn't everybody do it then? Like we feel, I think you and I and AJ as well and all the boys, like there is an obligation to give back because we've been given so much and are so incredibly lucky, especially with where you come from. So I have nothing but respect for the people that actually follow through and do it because anybody could do it. You know, that's kind of what everybody says is like, well, you're, you have so much money. You can do it. It's like, well, why doesn't everybody do it? They don't. So I appreciate the fact that you do it and hopefully you will inspire others to continue to do the same thing. And yeah, we love that PK. Good for you, man. Let's go. BK. Thanks, Pat. Let's go boys. Yeah. You know what? It's a lifetime partnership to Pat. Like I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to be on the board of the foundation. I have plans to do other things, but, you know, I think right now for, for PK's helping hand, my foundation team probably deserves a little bit of a break, you know, for the hustle and grind, but we're not going anywhere. We're going to, we're going to be heavily invested in Montreal and some other places as well. So I'm looking forward to it. All right, shout out to you. Continue to do great things. Let's talk about greatness now. Hurricanes are a prayer. Thought maybe the Avalanche were also going to go ahead and go undefeated series to series. And maybe these two are going to collide for the cup in the end. Two Goliaths who haven't faced any adversity throughout the playoffs could potentially fighting for it all, but instead Avalanche lose. Quinn Hughes is outrageous. Okay. I don't think I've watched enough of him playing hockey to truly understand his greatness. They introduced obviously to the Hughes family during the U.S. Olympics. And obviously I knew he existed, but he's an absolutely filthy player. The Minnesota Wild get a big time win. Avalanche suffer their first loss at a playoffs. And then the East, the Hurricanes just smack everybody around. So what is our thoughts on the Hurricanes having an easy road? And are they going to lose their rhythm and maybe their jive over the long layoff of two quick sweeps, PK? Listen, there's no question that Ottawa and Philly aren't the top in the cream of the crop when it comes to the league, but it doesn't really matter. You're still in the playoffs. And we've seen enough upsets over the years and over the history of the game to give teams credit when they get the job done. You still have to go out and execute. And let's be honest, watching Carolina, they have not let their foot off the gas at all. Like good luck finding any flaws in their game right now and they're going to be rested. You know, for me, the differences with Carolina is Carolina has been able to apply pressure to every team that they've played, like an insane amount, like no one has ever seen. And Ottawa can't handle it and Philly definitely couldn't handle it. But the question is going to remain that when Carolina does play a team that can't handle their pressure, that isn't going to be in their zone, you know, trying to break out pucks for three minutes and four minutes, that can actually make two or three passes on the power play and beat their pressure and create scoring chances. Does that slow them down a little bit? And you know what the reality is, is we can talk about should it go to what is all we want. They're doing it right now and no teams are able to do it. So when we look at the East, though, we have Buffalo and we got Montreal, which one of those two teams could potentially put enough pressure on Carolina Hurricanes. And to me, that team is the Montreal Canadians with the way that they play their power plays, clicking at an insane rate. Like that's a team that I would like to see. I'm a fan of Montreal, but I would love to see those two teams go at it because I think that that would be the best conference final. But make no doubt about it. Buffalo is a great team. They have to get better, though. They still look young in certain situations. They have to get mature and get physical and get their head wrapped around respect in Montreal and the game that they're bringing like Lindy Ruff said. OK, I love that Lindy said that. On that note, let's continue to talk about that particular series in the East. Love what I saw on TV. Go ahead, Tony. Yeah, PK. I think it was last week when Darius asked you about playing in tough barns and environments and you said these young guys, they have no idea. And then we, the today showed the entrance for Montreal this weekend. It was awesome. It was insane. The light show, the crowd, all the chanting. Like it was, it was, what is it like to play in that building? And as a Sabres player, like how, like, does that affect? Are you still sure that it doesn't affect them? Well, you know what? That's a great question. For me, I told Mestis yesterday in Bucci when we were just watching the game before and it's like, it's insane. Because I said every person in that building is wearing a jersey. Like there's no one wearing street clothes in that building. Everyone's got a jersey on. And I don't remember a game where I ever came out and my legs felt like cement. Like you can't. It's not an option. The energy in that place is so high. Like on a Tuesday night, you're not coming out of the gate slow. And to me, if you love the game and you love what you do, like that's the, when you step on that ice, you feel so light. The hair on the back of your neck stands up. Like it's almost like time is standing still. That's how loud it is. It's just, it's incredible to be a part of that. And that energy is like, it's definitely something that's intoxicating. But it's, it's synergetic, you know, like you can feel it as a visiting team. You got two options and you got to give Buffalo credit. They score what 53 seconds into the game. Like, but, but, but Montreal's nuts. It didn't even matter. Like two minutes after that, they're screaming again and the energy's back in. So it's a religion there. They don't stop. You have to be persistent as the visiting team. And the biggest issue is the sound. Like when it's loud in there and you're calling for bucks. Remember that as the visiting team, you're trying to talk through pressure. You're hearing a thing out there. So it can be a really, really difficult atmosphere to play in for both, for both teams to be honest. Dull Bash gets two standing ovations with two 47 here left in the third. And then at the very end as well as he's getting interviewed, rookie out of the Ohio State a couple of years back. AJ obviously knew that. He was very proud. Speaking of AJ, AJ, they do your favorite Chan up there. AJ loves the Chan. Oh,哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎哎 and he says he. All right, let's go to the West shall we because obviously we thought the avalanche were going to potentially be doing what the Koreans did but then that looks different now go ahead D-Bus. Yeah, avalanche still is betting favorites to come out of the West but after that commanding win Minnesota on Saturday got a big match up tonight. Do you think they can tie this series and potentially win the series? That's Minnesota wow. I think they can potentially tie it. Win it that's going to be a different different conversation because if Middleton is going to be in your top four defense and once again Middleton I love his game and what he brings. We know this in hockey you need all different types of players. So I'd never put a guy down because of his skill set but missing Brodeen on that back end which you know I don't think he's going to be back. If they don't get that depth back it's going to make it really really difficult for them to last listen Colorado is a team well coached with experience but inside of that those individual players are smart enough to know where your weaknesses are. They're going to take advantage of them. So if you have somebody playing above and beyond Cadre, McCarr, Landis, Gog, McKinnon, Natcheshkin, Natchez those guys are getting together before the draw and they know where the puck is going. So you know between him and Yolk, Erickson, those are two huge losses and I gotta be honest if they lose this series we couldn't potentially think that they would end up beating Colorado missing those two players. Like I don't care. Quinn Hughes is going to have to pull some serious rabbits out of a hat. He does though doesn't he? Isn't that kind of like Quinn Hughes hockey it feels like? Yes. Hey by the way I said he's my playoff MVP as much as as good as Kale McCarr. Kale McCarr might go down as the best greatest defenseman to ever play the game when it's all said and done. He's not there now after Bobby Orton. He's that good guys. He's that good. Like you have to look at him as a defenseman. Prototypically today everybody would build a defenseman like Kale McCarr. There's not one person who would build him any different but Quinn Hughes is a special player and no one is even close to Kale McCarr. He's right there and this playoffs to me. He's got to be in the conversation for MVP cons. My he is in that conversation. He's one of the best drivers if not the best driver right now in the game and skating wise. No one can touch him. So I'm with you on Quinn Hughes. I'm on the Quinn Hughes train big time. OK conversation. I think I heard what combination and I heard I heard. Yeah it was conversation. The I heard a bit earlier a little bit as well. I heard a boot a couple of times kind of a month kind of a mix of Yaman. OK. Defense Bomba clutch. Beaked respect. OK. I think. Yeah OK respect. Yeah. Shot as what a movie. I felt like I was Jamaican for like a two month period. I really thought I was good move. I was down in there. I really was. And you're on with me. Yeah. You got to watch belly bellies are crazy. That's a good way to do a nice recipe. So obviously what a run he had. Remember whenever he played for two million people. Yeah. Unbelievable. What's up with the Tim's on. Yeah. I'm read the strap. Yeah crazy. I just got a new motorcycle. OK. My wife got me a motorcycle for my birthday. I just picked it up yesterday or this weekend. Whenever we went up there I saw Kawasaki Street bike. Oh. And I like stood there. That's the choice. And I turned on DMX's Rough Rogers anthem. I headed in my back and I just looked at it. I was like this would be the childhood. Rap video dream. If I was just walk out of here with this thing because it was like same price. So it was like very easy. Like could have exchanged it or whatever. Just bang. Oh. Maybe next time. I can't do like it. I'm at a stage like I like not be doing that. I you know what I mean. I would agree. I can't ride a motorcycle. I don't have to video. I saw this. I won't do it. Hey up there in Canada you guys need to not ride motorcycles. Hey listen I've seen a motorcycle on a fucking red light. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if anybody's seen this. Have you seen this PK. No I have not seen it. No. And I'm you're not. On a motor. CTV. BMW turn left fear for motorcycle that thing. Boom. Obviously guy gets sent. We hope he's OK. No. Bike is on the red light. That thing did a front flip. It's hanging on like a gymnast. Where's the dude. He's down on a road down here. He did survive. Oh no. But the bike did he really. Yeah. He did survive. Obviously that's why we're running it. But on that note. Okay. The bike ends up on the red light up there. T's and P's to all parties that is nightmare for motorcycle rider obviously anytime you're on the road you have to kind of drive for everybody else. Whenever you're on two wheels. But that was obviously an incredible photo to find and then be like oh no this is real life. I thought it was some marketing ploy. You know up there. Insane that that took place. What the hell. Yeah. Happy everybody's OK. P.K. Don't be getting on a bike. You don't know how to ride. No. OK. No man. No dude. Yeah. I'm good. That's insane. Yeah. It's crazy. Absolutely crazy thought. Hope everybody remains OK through riding season. It just got nice here in Indiana and in the Midwest. So a lot of people on the road. Let's keep our eyes out for bikers as well. Yeah. OK. Yes. And everybody that's on bikes. I've been riding since like 2009. OK. Soon as I got out from underneath my parents house because my mom said not under my roof. You can do it. I had a scooter in college. OK. I get a motorcycle as soon as I get to the Indianapolis Colts I've been riding ever since then to the riders be safe. But also you got to drive for other people. Yeah. You are. I am like the softest motorcycle rider I'm like just cruising out there. This one's got no windshield. No radio stripped down. No bags. India Motorcycle. This week sick. Oh. It's you in the road. It is the greatest. I'm a walker. I'm not. I'm just a walker. So we got to give a heads up to the walkers to do. Man walking in New York City. I'm like I'm dodging scooters. I'm dodging. I'm dodging a lot of things on the sidewalk but the scooters in the poop. You know. Yeah. Yeah. It's too much. So watch out for the walkers to. Yeah. Let's let's say let's look out for each other out here this spring summer. Yeah. Hey let's have the best ever. Yeah. Let's do that. I'm happy we're doing it. OK. Let's look ahead to tonight's NHL action. Go ahead. AJ. Yeah. Obviously abs traveling two minutes to take on the wild. Do you think they find a way to even this up? But I guess what are you what are you looking for from the abs? We thought they were untouchable. Now Minnesota and Quinn Hughes comes out and beat some 5-1 on Saturday night. Like what are you looking for tonight? Oh they got a they got a pound their D. Like it's got to be. It's got to be. Yeah. Yeah they do. And like listen I'm saying get in bang on them all night. Like I'm being honest pucks in the corner. It should be an assault because for me they're depleted. They're asking a lot of Quinn Hughes in favor to be up the ice. You got to make them come 200 feet. You can't do that. You can't have those guys. Blocking around. You got to do that. Come to a. Yeah. That'd be a record beat the hell out of that D. Like it like it stole something. This. Complete them. Just kept going get everything out. Going. It's going to. 200 feet. Oh my God. 200 feet. 200 feet. Jeez. Hey boys. I'm dead serious. They got to get in on the defense because if Minnesota is coming out of their zone and they're breaking pucks up and coming up with speed Quinn Hughes. It's a make your own Sunday. You can't have that happen. Colorado has the depth. They're going to pin them in and hem them in. You got to wear those guys down and I think that's how Minnesota is going to lose this series. If they lose it is just Quinn Hughes and Faber and those guys running out of gas. But listen anything can happen. They went tonight if Minnesota can find a way to tie this thing up anything's possible but I just think Colorado's too deep. I think those guys are playing at too high of a level and kill McCarr just is playing at another level as well. The beating that he's taken in this series while still finding ways to produce is shows why he's so great. So it's a must watch game tonight. You can't miss this one. Fresh off a pause parade. P.K. says tonight is must watch just like every night has been for the NHL in Connor if I'm not mistaken. This is the last week of games every night right. Possibly. I'm not going to work his conference finals but there is a chance that we do have a double up night one night and then we don't get one the next day. Okay. So NBA and NHL have obviously been delivering the NHL has been showing up not just on the ice but also in pools. Yeah. P.K. Nathan McKinnon is he the next Michael Phelps or what's the name of the guy's all flip flopping around and you know what Nate's an absolute unit. I don't know what he's doing but he's doing every five seconds he's doing something big to get some type of edge and I he did hear about him swimming in the pool but this is what I'm trying to tell you guys are asking me about whether I think Minnesota called like Nathan McKinnon's getting a sweat on a day off. This is a workout like he's not in there like I don't look this is not in Vegas right. He's not in the pool in Vegas having a drink. He's he's getting a workout and like he's in insane shape and you can see it on the ice like he never gets tired this guy. So you know I'm just amazed by him and the car and the shape that those two keep themselves in but I have absolutely no idea what he's doing in that pool. Yeah. I don't know what he's doing. Yeah it could be just fluttering around. Good on the joints. You know kind of smooth operation. He can do whatever he wants. I'm going to be honest with you if Nathan he can do it ever he wants the way that he's played over the past five or six years. He's one of the best players in the world. So yeah probably going to be a cons might guy when it's all said and done here again. So as you know we all have come to realize in professional sports with documentaries and stories being told we know that people do things to keep themselves in shape. You know we do that. Nathan McKinnon swims with a flippy flop. He's yeah that's just something that's going to flip people does in the middle. Now listen I'll tell you what I put those things on. It's hard to get your feet in there. It's a real sticky situation. Once you think fold that over there it is a cool feeling kind of flopping around. You know what I mean kind of doing that. And then you get in there and you feel that first kick and it's like holy shit am I a mer-man right now. And you like kind of feel like you're floating. It felt like he was kind of fighting his own urge to go ahead and you know dolphin that thing because he was going real slow right now. I don't know what he was doing but I like floppers every once in a while. Yeah. So you've used those those flippers. Before like you're comfortable with them. I swam with the sharks down down to Bahamas. So I had a lot and I was in the tank with him where it happened. I've never seen him in a pool in a pool. Yeah hotel pool. I've never seen that means he's trapped. I can. Yeah. I can swim in any water that doesn't have a current. So the reason why I brought that up is my question is is if I put those flippers on in in waters with what I have more confidence women like would it make me that much better of a swimmer. Oh you're gonna feel like you got a rocket on your I mean it's you feel the water across your face. It feels like you got a jet engine back there. Wow. There's a reason these mermaids have been doing the dolphins and you know basically fish you know fish in water outgaters crocodiles. I mean they all keep up. I'm gonna give that a try. I'm gonna give that a try. Yeah because I'm not I'm not the greatest swimmer. Me neither. Me neither. Yeah I hit a current I could be in trouble. So I got to get that. Yeah I hit a current I could be in trouble. So I got to have something in my back pocket. Maybe I'll just try out those flippers. They're driving the pool first. They're big though. They're very big. You'd have to travel with those with a really big bag because without thick the rubber is can't just fold it in half. Jump bag. Exactly. Yeah. You have to check those in on land for me or ice. You're the man. We appreciate the hell out of you brother. Really good performance. Thanks boys. Really good performance. Thanks Pat. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Yeah P.K. Hold on P.K. Come back. P.K. You still there? I'm still here. What is this? Is this happening in Canada all the time? Shaved ice with mustard. Obviously super. I saw Anna do that. It was like millions of people. I don't know what is that? Mid game snack of the day. Shaved ice no flavor with mustard. Absolutely not. I know absolutely nothing about that. I would love to ask Anna on what she's got going on. I've never heard anything like that before. All right. I think it's healthy right? Mustard has like zero calories or whatever it does. Is it healthy? Is this healthy? Is this like a healthy kick thing that's been going around? From my understanding and AJ would know more about this than I would. I believe mustard is like the bodybuilder's like secret sauce because it has flavor but has no calories I think and no carbs I believe in it. So this is potentially a super. If you aren't cool enough for mustard slushies just say so. Okay. So it's not just a healthy thing. It's also a cool thing I guess. Okay. Good to know. I'll take what I'm ketchup slushie. I'll go in there on a ketchup and mustard slushie. We should try it. Oh mayonnaise maybe in there as well. Oh mayo slushie. No. I really need more mustard. What's that? What's that? I'm not a big mustard. I'm a ketchup guy. I'm not a mustard guy. Sure. Like I could do I could do shaved ice with ketchup. Like I try that. I just would never try mustard with shaved ice. That's just a tomato juice though. It's disgusting too. No. We know ketchup, Heinz ketchup, all in the ketchup. Ketchup way up here. Mustard, Heinz mustard comes down in here next. I don't know mayonnaise right there above mustard. If I had to say mayonnaise right there. Frank's up there. Ranch. I'll put Frank's and Heinz together. Ketchup sauce chicken nuggets. We baby raised. Oh, okay. You a barbecue guy. You like barbecue? Oh, that was an explosion right there. I'm not a barbecue. Any time anywhere ribs, chicken steak, anything barbecue. I'm down. Oh, all in. What's the fried tips? So what they're called the beef tips. Yup. I didn't have a barbecue grown up. I was not a big barbecue meat guy. You come out here to middle America. They got they got this shit cooking top tier. And they got it all everywhere. Whatever you need. However you like it. You're the man. We appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Subman. Hey, P.K. Great moment out of hockey this weekend. Just the way their refs operate versus every other league is astounding. Right now he's telling Mike Matheson to beat it. He wants to do his announcement. I'm asking you to go away from him. There you heard him. Right now. After you? After you. I'm asking you to go away from him. Not right now. After you. I also like that the ref definitely knew he turned on his mic for that. Hey, listen, that's what we got to deal with in the middle of this thing. And how about how chivalry he went after though? Yeah. Thank you. All right. And then you sit back and wait. Let you do your thing. Now, okay, I'd like to come back in there. We like the way the NHL officiates. We like their officials, I think. And the way Gary Bettman described it is you find, you know, minor hockey, minor league hockey guys or guys that used to play and then they have a system that gets up there. They're all very comfortable, obviously, with the sport because they have to be able to skate well. But I just like the way they operate and manage the game, AJ. They have relationships it feels like. I'm sure the players get to know these guys over the course of the season. If they're playing the league 10, 12, 15 years too, like it's all about relationships. You know, like some of the best NFL refs are guys that kind of they're not sitting there sucking up to the players, but they have relationships with them and you can kind of go back and forth throughout the course of a game. Yeah, I appreciate too. The way they balance it all, you know, like, hey, can't give one side too many here. Even if they're acting like assholes, we gotta light it up a little bit because a power play is obviously very significant. I know that in the NBA and in basketball, like into the free throw line, direct points. So it's hard to take some ref serious whenever they're calling everything to get points. You know, that's why we all question shit whenever it starts happening in hockey though. A power play. Huge. Yeah, huge. That is that is the game huge hitting a power play is the game in a nutshell. And if you get too many, you're going to lose. And if the refs are calling shit on you, it's out. So I like the way the refs kind of keep it balanced because we got great game going on right now. Yeah. And they do kind of like the makeup call thing sometimes it seems had to get one on you. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes they know when either they've missed something or they got something wrong and then they kind of pay it back or pay it forward rather for the team. Let alone saving fights whenever the right time to save them. Yeah. You know, like they'll feel for it. I mean, the whole playoffs started with a fight with stall versus Kuchuk captain on captain and just having that moment kind of kick off the playoffs as a whole. Yeah, because the refs are about to, you know, drop the puck. Okay. The whatever and Kuchuk and stall look at each other and go, we don't know this thing. No ref has any clue that that's happening. So they dropped the puck and then all of a sudden there's probably a what turn around sit. Oh, good for Hockinlats. The refs just kind of back up and then whatever they fall. Okay. All right. All right. Let's go to our separate benches. It's a it's a good feel. I think the NFL refs are going to get to that with this new CBA. I think we have a good system going because obviously familiarity with the refs whenever they're going to spring ball or they're going to OTAs or going to training because we would have what one ref crew though come through training camp NFL ref. We would have college refs high school refs. Maybe out of town refs that are traveling in for some bigger colleges, the conferences that are outside of Indianapolis, but it was mostly local refs that ref elsewhere that aren't in the NFL ref in our practices. What did you normally do? AJ? Yeah, Green Bay had a group of like legendary local refs that have been doing it for a long time. You could talk to them. They tell you stories about the old guys that used to be there. But yeah, they were local guys that like a lot of them were retired refs that had been refs in high school and you know, colleges around the area. I think that's a big deal getting the actual NFL refs in there because they're going to come in for like three days for us basically. I feel like the real refs the NFL guys. Yeah, during training camp and they would come in Gene Starrator, one of the good speaking ass refs would walk up there and go. Hey, this year. Here's what the league wants us to crack down on. It's not easy for us. Yeah, if you could help us. Yep. What was it not emphasis? Yeah, they energy or something. They tried to change the phrasing so it wasn't branded in a way. I was in my head. Emphasis. I don't know what they were actually saying, but well, that was what it actually was at the beginning. And then all of a sudden those rules started getting called too much and they're like, we need to dial back the branding of this so that we don't emphasize this entire thing. But the refs would come to like a two day period and you would see every coach would talk to every ref. Every player would have an interaction with the NFL ref. The ref would say something. It's like if we get them on tour during the off season to meet more players, I think that's a good thing. I think everybody kind of seeing the same pictures. A good thing. I think naturally the respect for each other will go up. So I'm happy that the new CBA has that because I think the NHL has that and I think they're the best officiated league in the world. Yeah, and then maybe there's a little consistency where you're not looking forward to, you know, hey, this crew calls a lot of holdings on corners or they don't call holdings on corners. Like as long as there's some sort of continuity between every single crew and then it's not like, hey, why was last week this a pass interference for now this week? It's not like I even think that is so important just having kind of just some similarities and call. Ever wondered if the magic was real? Well, this is where it was made. 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So great video from back 200 yards away. Oh, okay. Oh, wait, that didn't make the broadcast? No. No, yeah. I was traveling. All right. Legion 13 got it. Now look, everybody was pros. I did catch one of the range. You got support guys giving me a little bit of a stink up hat. But other than that, other than that, it was a good week. They're all gentlemen. Bryson was great. Ron was great. There's good people over there. And I've decided I want to take better tact with live and give them a chance here as they try to find $5 billion. Okay. They've gone through five billion already. It doesn't mean that they need five billion. They're certainly going to need some funding. And if we're able to watch them, I think that would be good. Foxy found himself watching on Fox. Nice job. This past week. I couldn't believe it. We have all this drama and everyone's wondering, where do you find live? I can't watch live. It's on CW. It's on Nickelodeon. It's on Disney Channel. It's everywhere. We can't find it. And then finally this weekend, it's on the main Fox channel. I watch finally. It's been on for the last two years. He's having fun attention. But they seemingly are doing better than we thought they were going to be. When we thought they was going to be a total collapse at the time, maybe they're able to survive. But the PGA had two attorneys. Brooks Kepke seemingly having to earn his stripes to get back. Early morning tea time in Myrtle Beach performed well, not at the elevated event. We had three golf tournaments going this weekend. A lot of golf happening in this upcoming weekend. Obviously we have a massive one in the PGA championship. You're down there right now. Scotty Scheffler has been training allegedly for the last couple weeks to defend his PGA championship title. What should we know going into the weekend, Mark? Right now it's a soft course. The rough is only about three and a half inches long. There's some more rain expected maybe Wednesday and Thursday. I think it's going to be a grip it and rip it type of course. If those conditions stay, that means Rory McRoy, I think would have a good shot. Didn't have to clean up the short game a little bit. He wasn't very good around the green at the truest championship this past weekend. Scotty's going to be there again trying to defend his championships. Andrew Shawfully, Chris Goddrup, New Jersey guys, another guy that rips it. How about the guy that won at Charlotte, Christopher Wrightown, a guy from Norway? I talked to you a while back about Maverick Manealy being the last guy out here who needs money. This guy needs no money. His grandfather founded basically the Buckeys of Norway minus the brisket and the beef jerky. It's worth $9 billion. This guy? His family? His grandfather, yeah. I mean, it literally is like the 7-11 or Buckeys of Norway. His sister is a pop star over Norway as well. Nice. Okay, the Wrighton family crushing it. I would like to like Christopher know that we appreciate and respect the fact that he could have his golf cleats up. But instead, he's worked his ass off to become an elite golfer. He looked phenomenal this weekend. I didn't know much about him. He has a great resume, I guess overseas at DP and then some other tournaments that he's won over there. Him coming here and getting introduced to the world in an elevated event the week before a PGA championship was certainly a fun ride. Now I know he's worth billions of dollars. So the fact that he has the mental toughness to fight through being a lazy fatso and especially with if it's a Buckeys of over there, who knows what the food could be? Oh, my God. Gas station food over there. I mean, I've been to like, so I can imagine Michelin star. Yeah, what is it? They got pork roast? They got like taquitos, but they're made out of gold. Yeah, bingo. Taquitos made out of gold. Basically. Norwegian taquitos made out of gold. Yeah, it's like sushi. Sounds like you guys have never been there. No, I don't. It's kind of like his up as car. What are they eating over there at the Buckeys of Norway? I would have. I wouldn't know either, but I would assume it's a hell of a lot healthier than what we find in the US and the Buckeys. I don't know that. Watch it. There's a fat American right there who wants all the preservatives and shit in their food. I went to Australia for 11 days, Mark, and this is called you understand this little filling here because we got a heart out in 30 seconds or whatever. So we want to get to our next conversation with you after that heart out because we want the world to know that this continues digitally. Okay, the Sports Center will take you from here on ESPN, but I went to Australia for 11 days. I eat their food. I never felt better. I never felt better. I come back to America. I started eating food. Obviously, I start shitting my pants again, doing the entire run around. And then I'm called a loser for digging into the conspiracies. Just know the Buckeys in Norway. I know they got funions and this guy's been living off them for a long time. Nailed it. Okay. All right, let's move along. Now we move. Let's continue this conversation about the PGA championship. Grip it and rip it. Is Sheffler going to be a guy that's going to be able to figure it out? And obviously Rory skipping a couple of events to prepare for the Masters as the reigning champ for a few weeks was the topic of discussion going in there. And he voted pretty well. With Scottie Sheffler defending his PGA championship being on the course for a few weeks, how does that affect him? Is this always something that he has done? Yeah, I mean, he's probably experimented with a lot of different ways of doing it. You know, he'll show up the week before in the past. Didn't work. Take a couple of weeks off. It worked. You know, these guys, all these guys are, I wouldn't call them superstitious, but they're going to, they're going to finagle with it a little bit to come up with the best plan of action. He's always going to be in the mix. You know, he was runner up three events in a row, wasn't won his A game and still finished second at the Masters as we discussed. But, you know, he does well in these courses with wide fairways, spends it as well as anybody. If he can get a wedge in his hand, I like his chances this week. All right. I can't wait to watch it unfold. If Sheffler's name is on the leaderboard, everybody will watch. Yep. You know, the truest leaderboard. Okay. I'm not going to say it, but I don't know anybody. You know, Ricky Fowler goes on a run. I'm like pumped for him. Yeah. I was super pumped for Ricky. I'm like, holy hell, I didn't know we're still doing this. He's kind of going, the new fits. It was Alex. It felt like it was a nice introduction or a reintroduction to a lot of offers and it's an elevated event. Scotty missed the elevated. I thought the elevated events were supposed to be like the ones that BGA were putting out there and then having a PGA championship a week after the elevated event. How does that come to be? Because, you know, I thought that was supposed to kind of fill time like a snack in between meals. And it was after the Masters last time. That was the whole thing. There's an elevated event after the four. Yeah. Why do we choose this particular weekend? Because I didn't like not seeing Sheffler on an elevated event on the potential leaderboard on Sunday because he's always lurking, always lurking out there. Yeah. I don't they they're going to double the number of signature events going forward possibly, you know, back when these first started in direct reaction to the threat of live. It was mandatory guys showed up. Rory skipped that that one after the Masters when he when he blew that that late lead and got fine for it. Now, you know, he's just show up when you want to show up. But they got they got to figure it out. This this one. Look, the PGA championship is a great event. The PGA of America is a great organization. It's clearly the number four major at this point. They used to play back in August and the PGA tour. What did it take over August for the FedEx Cup playoffs? The PGA championship doesn't want to compete with the Olympics every four years. But this one, you know, after back to back elevated events, it's just it clearly doesn't have the same build up as the other ones. Yeah, I'm excited to watch it. Obviously, the time the big names are playing, you're going to watch, especially if they're on the leaderboard. Just this past weekend, I was so fascinated that it felt like a showcase of new or maybe still around as opposed to the names that we know this weekend will be different. You talked about obviously the live guys in the conversations in the past. We've obviously heard your opinions on it all. We think some of these elevated events have potentially been booked against live events as well. You know, John Rom hits an Amatross. How about an elevated event though right over here that not all the PGA guys actually get to play in? I like the way the business has been going. You've obviously been on top of all of it. Go ahead, tone. Yeah, Mark, your scoop, your talks with Bryson, your article last week on Bryson made a ton of news with obviously coming off the live in the PIF situation and him talking about, you know, doing YouTube and potentially, you know, having egos with the PGA tour that made there was a there was a lot of golf talk on the internet last week because of you and Bryson. Well, job well done. What do you think eventually happens with Bryson? Like, does does he have a contract that's through 2029 like Rom with live? Do you think he'll just do YouTube and then just play majors? What's your feeling after after talking to Bryson? Yeah, I've always found Bryson to be interesting as hell and fascinating, but he tends to talk a little bit too much at times. Some of the some of the things he said about the the PGA tour struggling as well and you know, they're laying people off and they're cutting events and all this. I mean, that's not the time and place to say it when you may have to try to come back to the PGA tour. But look, he he has his feelings and his opinions. He might be the only guy on earth that that thanks the the pressure is the worth 400 million. You know, and he said there he said, look, these teams are worth 200 million and I'm not even talking about my team. But none of those teams have been sold and talking to be honest, we talking to some of the guys on live on on background. They don't know that the team are the team competitions is the way to go in the future. You know, they spent five billion dollars trying to figure out if it work and it hadn't really worked. So we'll see what happens. But they've dug in. I mean, they Scott O'Neill, the CEO, he thinks the value in the league is in the teams. And it's the one thing they do differently than anybody else. But I think some guys over there would just like to tee up and play golf. They do that. You know, opportunity to do that every week. Shock Unstart as well. OK, so you know that again to get through the rounds quicker. You're not always going to end on 18. Not every course was designed for you to finish the way that you're supposed to finish. It's it's a shock. Unstart like a scramble would that charity charity. It's fun. It's golf. But louder. You see, but it does feel like new CEO has new ideas, right? And I feel like there is newer ideas potentially to evolve and to make it survive. He has to say that he thinks he can survive obviously because he's been tasked with making it survive. If they get a couple, you know, TV deals now that Saudi Arabia is not associated with it. A new TV deal potentially get into the content game. I think they have to become big time YouTube creators if they want to continue to go there. Maybe they survive instead of Mark's dreams and fantasies. Yeah, of them collapse. Somebody somebody mentioned to me that Scott O'Neill convinced Philadelphia fans to buy seventy six or six tickets when they were tanking and won nine games in a season. So maybe you can get this done. OK, all right. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Mark, one of our guys, Ty is out right now and I have to ask for him because his favorite golfer is back this weekend and Philly Michael Block, baby. He is here. He is playing again. What are the chances that you kind of just lock it on him? Maybe follow blocky this upcoming week. It feels like we haven't had a star like galleries and quite some time. What should we be expecting from blocky? And why is his story so special, especially this weekend in Philly? I mean, I was hoping we had a two o'clock hard out because he was about to tee off in his practice around at 205 and he was definitely the guy. The first guy I wanted to see boots on the ground. Mark, no, I mean, look, the guy did it. The guy did a hell of a job in Rochester. I mean, he stole the show. I mean, he was he was the biggest story of the week. Brooks won the block one the week. And, you know, he got an ace played in the final round with Rory. But like I said, you know, he just he flew a little bit close to the sun and got a little big added. And some people don't like it. Look, he's one of those guys you either love him or you hate him. I love it. It's kind of like it's kind of like Lane Kiffin. You either love the guy or you hate him. Lane Kiffin Block. I mean, give him give him give him credit. I mean, he keeps getting back in the damn thing. How does that work? He saw all the PGA pros that are like the professionals at these golf courses across the country. They're called the the is it the PGA pros? Yeah, right? Yeah. I don't know. They've been a professional championship. They had the one they had out in band and there's a couple of weeks ago in Oregon. PGA club. It's all the club pros from around the country play against each other. And then if you are top, what? Top 20, top 20, I believe you get into the PGA championship. So this is blockies. What tenth major is that with the videos? So we want I don't know whatever the case is. This is blocky. He's he's come into our world this way. Is he good enough to make like if you guys are on tour? Why? Yeah, exactly. Why isn't he like I don't know enough and it sounds like you're probably going to give a very condescending, hilarious answer. Like if I was to ask Ty Schmidt why this is the case, but he he scores in the top 20 regularly now at this point in this particular tournament plays in the. Is there that big of a I guess there's that vast of a difference between the top golfers in the world versus maybe people that can just qualify in these other tournaments? Yeah. Well, I mean, he said it. I mean, if he could hit the ball 20 yards further, he'd be better in Rory or be as good as Rory. There it is. But you know, you got to you got to spin it, you know, the short game and it's I mean, there is such a razor's edge is difference between these guys out here. And they're the best 200 players in the world. And there's a bunch of them over at Lyft to all of them at that. But yeah, there's a big difference, pretty big difference. Hey, Mark, we appreciate you buddy. Okay. We appreciate you. We need you to give us something that maybe we can find a crown on though. Please. Yeah, but has a question for you trying to get this crown is getting away from us. Who's your best bet? Now we have the list up here. A lot of household names on this list, including blocky anybody that's not on this list, that would be the best bet this weekend. Yeah, I'm terrible at picking guys. But you said I mean, I go I go I go I go a Rory. I go a Rory. I mean, look, the best store would be the best story this week. Blocky Michael block. Plus other than easily. I mean, I would definitely ride with that. Uh, I mean, Rom or D. Shambow winning this thing. Yeah, that would be best story. Live guy went to action. Yeah. Yeah. He's a live guy. He's been at a lot of their live programs throughout the years. Open supporter got helped get him into the game. Yeah, absolutely. I came to the game when live kind of came to the guy. Love competition and it made the PGA better. I think and I just like watching these pros and I that's why I'm a love this weekend when all of them are actually playing against each other. And on that note, Mark, live made PGA better. We will say that. Okay. Uh, gambling on things I think has made a spectators life better. Winning on bets would make everybody's life much better. And when you say I don't, I'm not good at these things or whatever. We're coming to you for answers. Come on. Okay. So whenever you start doing these types of things, okay, we need a little bit more confidence because now I have no confidence in what you said, but you should be good at these things because of what you said earlier. You said it's going to be a grip it and rip it weekend. Rebit. I mean, look, Scott, yeah, Scottie, Rory, Tim Young blasted the hell out of it. He foreput it the first hole yesterday, I believe. Got to took him out of it. He'll be there in the mix. Ludwig Oberg another long hitter. I need sleep or sneak on my fantasy team. Yeah, I got a five piece. I got a 10,000 or something. I forget what's the winning score going to be. Mark, how low are they going to go? What do you think wins it? 13 14 15 maybe. It's good. It's good. Right where it should be. I did see our guy Sergio in DC, by the way, he didn't stop again. He never stops. Oh, I saw him. Focus. I thought I thought I thought about this pat. There's a direct correlation between Sergio and Harvey uptake. Remember him? The guy killed the trees at Auburn. Yep. Yes. Harvey and I Harvey and I Harvey and I got to know each other pretty well before he passed away. And you know, he killed he killed the most famous trees in Alabama. Sergio killed the most coveted son on earth at Augusta National. A little dramatic comparison, I think, but I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it is Augusta. It is Augusta and Harvey called me one time. There was a 205 number on a Saturday and Friday, Sunday night before the SEC championship game, George and Alabama were getting ready to play again. There was a 205 area code. I figured it was Kirby smart or somebody called from the Alabama offices and I answered it and he said, Mark, I said, yeah, he goes, this is Harvey up, like remember me. I said, Harvey, where are you at? He said, I'm at the Alabama State Mental Hospital in Tuscaloosa. They're evaluating me. He said, I get one phone call a week. I said, why in the hell are you calling me then? He said, what are Alabama's chances Saturday night? In the sun. Let too much. He had too much in my mind even Sergio's just got a little too much anger in him. I guess. Roll time. Go, sir. At a time. Respect Harvey up, like I love the pack. Hey, we're 110 days away from college football. Yes, we are. 110 days. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God is right. You're the man. We appreciate you. Enjoy this weekend. Be nice to the live guys. Oh, I'm gonna go walk with him right now. And blocky and blocky and blocky. Have a good week, fellas. Since we had block. I love that guy. I felt I'm gonna get it. Plus 500,000. Yeah, I felt obligated to go look since that famous PJ championship. He has missed his last 10 cuts since that. He's do how many were PJ. He's fucking do that's right. Sounds like to win the entire thing. Why not? Plus 500,000. No, I was 50. No, I thought it was $500. I'm gonna rip it and rip it. It's a few bucks on them. How do you get to that number? We gotta do it because he's blocking for those that don't know. That's $100 to win 500,000. I'm doing it. I'll tell you, you can't be betting at all. Not gambling advice. Yeah, this is not just listen. You got to do what you have to do that the amount that you want to do it when you're legally of age. Okay. This is to this is to be a benefit and an add on to watching sports. Getting a chance to kind of benefit from whenever you think is going to happen. Happens. Plus 500,000. You're rarely going to see that. You're rarely going to see that on a professional sports book. Is it something that a friend would give to somebody? Hey, me doing some absurd feet. What are odds on that? Friend says back, plus 200, 300, plus 500,000. I don't fucking plus a million. That's kind of what this is. We got to see what has happened. Somebody's had that kind of odds. There's 26 guys at plus 500,000. So it's he's not the only one. Okay. That's basically like, and that's my boy where the fat guy wins the marathon who drinks chocolate milk. But I think those weren't even plus 500,000 months. Yeah. So it's hard to get to those. What was Jamie Valde to win the EPL back in the day? I think it might have been around those odds that comes out tomorrow. Yeah. Jamie Vardy documentary untold. Jamie Vardy. That one Lester city won Lester won the Premier League party party. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Lester was me and AJ been talking about this guy back in the good old days. Yeah. Jamie Vardy. I still play. I mean, that's when this happened. Yeah. They were so 5000 to one, which would be another beef. John Dewey won in 1991 is like the ninth alternate. I bet if he had odds on that back then, it was plus 500K. What they said he was walking down with a gas station cup that was beers while he's walking down the fairway. Is he here in Indiana? Was it really? Yeah. I mean, talk about like, yeah, like I just saw another clip recently about that. How he came and he won the whole tournament. He wasn't even he was like legit. They had to go through eight alternates that weren't there. He's like, yeah, I'll drive over. Is that a stick? Yes, has to be crooked stick. Crooked stick there. And it's crooked stick, which is incredible golf course here in Indianapolis hosts a lot of events. I played there once super nice, super nice place, but that turned into quite a daily party. They were following him. They were walking. It was like out of a movie whenever because he was ninth alternate or whatever the ninth, 10th, whatever the alternate was. He was not supposed to be there drove there just so happen to have clubs in the back like happy Gilmore shows up blast the ball. Absolutely blast the ball starts building up his fan base here in Indiana. People start showing up at the tournament just to watch him. It turned into like a happy Gilmore situation for John daily. And he was actually drinking beers down the down fairway as he's walking there having a time of his life. Beast swinging that thing all the way here as hard as he can at every single shot and just pure. And it's like, that's incredible story. He was a thousand to one or higher. It says that's what ESPN said is thousand to one or higher because the thousand to one is insane. Yeah. Five thousand to one is insane. That's what I could believe. That's what we got plus 50,000 is outrageous. That is five hundred thousand twenty six golfers alongside blocky that have those odds. Is there any other golfer that we've ever heard of that's there? How about him? A man who's able to blade it out of the sand, hit it off a structure and have anything bounce back into sand trap still finished top 10. Yeah. That guy's mentally tougher than I think most. Sunjay is actually plus 14,000 this week. Francis, we met comes to mind. He probably was plus 500,000. Did you just pick him on your fantasy team? No, I just thought of him because I was just thinking of like the most ridiculous and he was an amateur that one. I think the US open. I don't know. It was a movie and Shiloh Buff was a golfer and he won the US open as an amateur and he couldn't even get paid once he won it because he was an amateur. He was probably about plus 500,000 away. All right. Well, good luck to all parties as they try to win the PGA championship. Obviously it is going to be spectacular sticking in the golf world. I saw a sunset flip bomb in the TGL arena. What? What fair way to hell? Darby Allen, AEW World Champion taken on Park Park. Obviously one of the most electrifying wrestlers in the history. Darby Allen, a man who's climb Mount Everest. Now the champion buried MJF and also. Oh, shit. When you say Pock, is that who like from the generation X? No, no, not X Pock. Okay. He said many names and board tables down. That's a champion in toss around TGL. And I think every match that Darby is a part of he has at least one of those got a little hearty in him, if you will. But obviously a spectacular concept, a great idea, fair way to hell. And it was executed. Oh, that's saying does not budge. You know, just getting that down. All the rows of ring get it down to trousers. Obviously spectacular. Pock and fly. I have not seen this highlight here, but he is incredible in the Scott. Yeah. Oh star. Oh face to a table. That's just good business. Oh my God. He didn't expect it. Oh, yeah. The table. I was my first step that I saw that there was a ring. I did not know there was a ring there as well. Yeah, it was a great setup. You know, ECW used to travel around a little bit till it found its theater. Obviously there's gyms and things across the country that have hosted a lot of indie events for them to have that concept and then to execute it in front. The look is sick as it looked. I love it. That's good. What else can we do in there? We can do other stuff in that TGL space too now. Concert. Sure. Right. That's definitely a concert. You put that stage right there where the ring is. Now you got the entire thing. You probably fill in on the thing. Absolutely. Nice little, they got their own little sphere thing going on, a little golf cut. Many Cosm. I don't mind it. Cosm is outrageous. Speaking about Rages today, we had Schefter, Shoms, Kevin Pritchard, Ryan Smith, Cameron Wagner committing to Oregon. Congrats to him. PK Subban and Mark Shulablock. And oh yeah, running back, Breece Hall has finally received a deal from the New York Jets. Three years, 45.75 million, 15.25 per year done by agent, Nicole Lynn of Clutch Sports. Still bringing. There you go. Nicole Lynn, absolute beast negotiator. Clutch Sports, obviously rich Paul's agency, LeBron James friend and former Jersey seller out of his garage and out of his trunk of his car. Yeah. Now owns an agency that is representing Breece Hall and getting him 15 million plus a year. Other running backs are getting paid. Other players at the Jets are getting paid. Obviously massive turnover at the Jets have happened. Breece Hall has had to kind of just sit there, sit back, be patient. Now he's getting over 15 million a year. Good for him, AJ. Yeah, good for him. I'm hoping we keep hearing people talk about this Jets team. That's not going to be good this year, but going to be good the following year, right? Like that's what they keep saying. Why not? Like why can't they? Why can't they be solid this year? I think they could. That's a talent. Probably probably coming back. Well, Gino Smith, obviously last year was the most unlucky quarterback in the history of the NFL. Every pass that he was throwing seemingly got intercepted somehow. Okay. And I don't like it at all. Somehow the last two years he's led the league interception. Well, is he a couple member last year Seattle? What that was? Remember with that one? Yeah, he's just get to the red zone. He's like, I got an interception red zone turn over. Yeah, but the New York Jets obviously a massive turnover him at Breece Hall in the backfield going to have to respect the run game. Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, A.D. Mitchell. We like all three of those guys and obviously Sedeek the Freak and Mason Taylor of the Taylor bloodline is certainly a lot of weapons on the offense aside. Aaron Glenn, we assume his defense won't be asked. How many picks did they have last year? Zero. What? Interceptions? That might have been a plus $500,000 going into the season to not have an interception. They have a bunch of drops. See, bud. It's crazy. You know what? I couldn't tell you. I wonder if anyone has anyone studied that like if there are many tips that they didn't get or like how close they have a bunch that they were close. We'll get him on that zero. Yeah, they were crazy. Really just getting pissed on all year. I don't think they had many drops. I think they're just letting touchdowns. They lost by like 40 a game the last five weeks. Frank Reich, offensive coordinator. He has had success as an offense coordinator in the past. Obviously multiple stops have not worked out, but I think his ability and to relate to the quarterback. I heard him speak about Geno Smith in a presser and he just he got a two minute promo on Geno Smith. But how much you like them coming out of West Virginia? What do you see him from his game? Remember, he's done the same for Carson Wentz. He's done the same for every quarterback that he's ever coached. He goes to bat for his guys. He likes his guys. Does like his guy. Frank Reich likes his guys. Maybe Bells is back this year. Yeah, maybe. Maybe he does. They wrote him off again. And Frank Reich continues to step into batter's box. And Geno, he still is yet to write back. Yeah, he still is yet to write back. Don't sleep on Cade Club now. What's that? He's on that team as well. Don't sleep on him now. No, I agree. He had the potential, I guess, to be at the height still does. Athletic is shit. Athletic is shit. Can spin it. If you can figure out where it's going, that's easy. Put a couple lasers on you. Figure that whole test. That's easier. That's aura. Easy. That's easy. That's easy. Has the aura, has been around the hype for a long time. Any of these guys can go on to be great. We've seen that. Pick one to Mr. Oralovic. Anybody can go on to have a career. And I hope they all figure it out. Speaking of figuring it out, Caitlin Clark became the fastest player in WNBA history to reach 1,000 points, 250 rebounds, 256 accomplishing the feat in just 54 games. Surpassing Diana Terrasse's previous mark of 62 games. Congratulations, Caitlin. That's huge. Caitlin and the fever hosted the Dallas squad this weekend to tip off the WNBA season as a whole. So many superstars on the court. Caitlin Clark, Sophie, Aliyah Boston, Raven, and Kelsey Mitchell is inevitable on our team. She is so good. I think she's Ohio State. If I recall correctly, she's so good at hoops. She's like now second all-time scorer for the Indiana fever. So hopefully she continues to go. Then Caitlin Clark will go on that night to become the first WNBA player to walk out with Morgan Wallen in his second night at Lucas Oil Stadium. Sold out two stadiums. Obviously, there are some people who had their thoughts and opinions. I'll say that Caitlin Clark continues to represent the WNBA in front of a lot of people who maybe have never or haven't watched the WNBA game. I think more eyes on the sport is better. And the Saturday start between Dallas and Indiana became a three-point game. It was electrifying and Paige Buckets and that squad down in Dallas, they can run. They were a phenomenal squad. Feels like WNBA had a pretty good little weekend to kick this whole thing out. They had a great opening weekend. You talked about this game. I believe this was the highest scoring game for WNBA in history, 107, 104. A bunch of stars. You mentioned the stars out there. Last four, number one overall picks were in this game. Azi Fudd, she didn't play much. Only three points, but Paige Buckets hit a little too small celebration on the cover of the gals. She's an absolute weapon. 20 points on 80% shooting. And then in Notre Dame legend, Arique Ogumbawale, she had a great game as well, over 50% from the field. Odyssey Sims, they're starting point guard. She was a dog on both ends of the court, defensively and offensively. So that was a great game, great start to the season. Obviously in Indiana with the biggest face of the league, Kaitler Clark, taking that L to Dallas. They should be good this year. Some other news around the WNBA. Okay, we're doing WNBA. Absolutely. Let's go. Pops Vegas Aces, they got their rings. The Asia did. They got their asses. Kick, Knight won against Phoenix. But their second game, they bounced back against LA and dominating fashion had a big time win. Obviously with one of the goals, Asia Wilson being the leader. Jackie Young as well had a great game. And then Kennedy Carter kind of made her way back into the NBA. 22 points off the bench. Great start for the Vegas. I mean, they'll be right there at the end. Once again, great team, great roster stack. Once again, then you talk about attendance and WNBA kind of just being up to the right Portland. They had their opening night and broke the record over 19,000 fans in the building when they faced Chicago Sky. So that's a great start. Then the scoring, scoring overall is up in the WNBA. WNBA obviously is early, but I believe averaging like over 87 points for each team, which is great for the W. Congratulations to the W on the hot start. 87.4 points for game through the first two days. That's the highest average scoring in the first two days in a regular season in league history. Obviously brand new deal, brand new CBA, brand new faces, brand new excitement that W tipped off this weekend. Mackenzie, my daughter, in here, grab a little basketball. Okay, because she goes, let's go with dad work. Okay, that's her new thing. Love that. Let's go with dad work. And it's such a close drive. Yeah, I would too. I would too if I was a kid. Yeah, I'm always coming in. It's such a close drive. Yeah, so we come over here, you know, we've been here every single night basically. She'll grab basketball and then she'll just look at the hoop and I'll be like, Oh, do you? All right. And I lift her up and she throws it and it just hits the bottom of the rim or it hits like the backboard or whatever. And I'm like, all right, she goes down then she wants to run down to the other side. She'll pick up a ball, put it in this net over here. She like dunks it in there. It's like, okay, hey, let's work on these handles too. As we get out there with like her to be multi sport athlete, but the W MBA seemingly with the prices or the amount of money that they're paying their athletes, like that's a that could be a trailblazing groundbreaking women professional sports. You know, like that is something that everybody else could try to follow behind. And for a lot of us, we all have daughters who I will force her into sports. Okay, I know there's a lot of people that tell me you can't force, let them live their life. It's like, well, I think sports is life lessons, you know, so she is definitely going to be playing sports. I mean, that is no questions asked. She's going to be in team sport. And it's like with what the W MBA is doing. And then what Brittany Mahomes does some endowment for the Kansas City current that is happening, the professional women's soccer league. Obviously the volleyball league, the Frey here with the Indian night that's happening for the hockey league up into it's like sports growing is good for all flag football, flag football. The how many states I think is now 36, I want to say it's like this is good sports more sports, the better AJ. That's what I think in our society, certainly in a time where it's pretty crazy out there, it feels like. And think about when you see like all these W MBA, then paying them more money, making them like, you know, the fact that they're able to establish themselves and become bigger and bigger. And also it's only going to feed itself because young girls are watching that and more and more playing to becoming better players. Like, look, like, you know how good people can shoot young kids these days? Like Steph Curry changed the game back in the day, but young guys and girls are third grade shooting lights out and making eight threes in the game when you're in the third grade. Like, OK, yeah, like the future does look bright for these sports. How is your daughter, your daughter, we're talking. Loves it. Yeah, we're talking heavy defense, right? We're, we're, we're hands on. She plays basketball in lacrosse basketball is definitely like her love. Yes, she's obsessed with basketball. How old? Freshman. How tall? She's like 5'10. Oh, that's good start. Hawk is the last name. Think about Hawk across the world. Oh, yeah. And even, even like off the court for women, it's gone because I go to these, these volleyball tournaments every week and every other weekend and whatever. And you see all the shoes that all the young girls were wearing. They were in the Asia Wilson's or the Sabrina's shoes. My daughter's high school team all wore the Asia Wilson's. That was her team shoe. Yeah. So that's six. That's something we grew up, you know, you see Jordan's or you see the bronze, you see, you know, Brent Hills, you know, whoever, Scottie, whoever has the hot shoes. Charles Barkley, T-Max, whoever has the hot shoes. So that's big for these, you know, women or men off the court. So just seeing that and seeing, like you said, force your, I'm a big proponent of force your kids play sports. There's just so much shit you have to deal with so much adversity you have to deal with. Hey, don't, don't look at me. Get out there and figure it out. You know what I mean? I'm not telling your coach shit. Your coach handles that. You go out there and deal with your teammates. Whatever. Hey, I'm hurting. I'm doing this. Get up and go figure it out. I think it pays huge dividends down the line. And you got to remember, like, Caitlin knows that that is a big deal. Like she, there's money that she's been offered to go play in other leagues. She's like, I would like to leave the W better than when I got, like they all seemingly have the same mindset. Like we would like to build this particular league. We would like to build sport. I think Skyler said something about the attendance in Portland and was like, hey, like they're kind of taking it as like a duty almost to serve women sports. We appreciate you. Oh yeah. A lot of games. A lot of games. Don't love that the fever lost the open, but I do appreciate the fact. Good squad. Sold out arena to packed out. The city of Indianapolis has been very appreciative of what Caitlin is. Yeah. That's always not just Caitlin. Obviously her teammates are fantastic, but Caitlin was the, the draw. She's pulling up from everywhere. Yes. What the fuck? She's from Iowa. She's from right over there. Very relatable. And then a Leah Boston, Kelsey Mitchell goes crazy. Sophie Cunningham will fight you. Lexi, right? Lexi. Reven is the rookie that we have to win some games. It's the first game. Well said, Tony. Did they wait or did they lose? I'll tell you what page fun to watch. See, a fun, fun Hooper to watch. I watched that whole game. I watched that whole game. Literally it was her missing a couple of those done, done at the end. Free throws. Yeah. I thought to myself, oh no, such a good game. And they drew up a great play to get Kelsey a little Caitlin coming in, double team up. Lefty. But you know what happened? She wearing hallways. She was. She wearing the Hibiscus. Yes. Yeah. Kelsey. Yeah. Looks sweet. In front Ty Reese, who was obviously in the building. He's done her. People saying he looks fat. You guys need to understand that when he's sitting down wearing a hoodie, you want to, he's great. Yeah. Great shape. They're still saying that? Yeah. Side angle at the fever game kind of caught him with a little bit of a, I mean, he said, his beard still out there. He said he got loose. He said he's, yeah, he's 30 pounds heavier than he was when he was playing. Like that isn't, that's not a mystery. But he does feel as if he. Game. Body. Body. I talked to him this weekend. He was. Dumbbell. Dumbbell. So I'm like, okay, Ty Reese, going for the little big body. Yeah. Well, I think he's thinking about the Wimby stuff. You know, I think he's thinking about doing the one like, hey, he's getting jacked. Yeah. Ty Reese, hell of Jack. He looks good. He looks good there. He does. The shingles thing is crazy how long it's been happening. Like honestly, he, if it hasn't been, if it wasn't him, I don't know how other people would handle it. He's has this like constant optimistic, confident, blind faith forward thing. Like that is literally how he is all the time. I think a lot of it has to do with his dad. His dad is the exact same way and he's been telling him his whole life, like, hey, this is how we are. This is what we're doing. This is everything. But it's like this shingles thing has been a nuisance for a long, we're going on like three, four months. Oh yeah. Of this thing. Like I didn't know that was possible. He's so he's still not out of. No. No. He didn't give it. He didn't give it any of you guys. So I think about it in the back. Great work. All right, Terry. All right boys. Great show today. We appreciate you all so much. AJ, you're the man. We'll see you guys tomorrow. I'll be live from the NFL office system. Let's go. Oh, yeah. You know, some conversations that potentially happen and none of it happens without all of you. We're just trying to be an additive to sports and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. If it wasn't for you, we never be able to do this. So the fact that you let us do it, we're eternally grateful for it. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.