BREAKING: Trump Moves in on Iran

On today's show, President Trump responds to the Iranian's threat of war. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekilo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments for call 1-800-684-3-110. And now your host, Logan Sekilo. Welcome to Sekilo. It's Monday. We're live in our studios in National Tennessee. We are going to be broadcasting a little bit. Joining Jordan in Washington, DC, as he is there for very important reason, we'll get into that a little bit later. But of course, President Trump could give us a Monday without something news to break. Some big moments. We'll discuss that as well as still the fallout coming from Minnesota, including like I told you what happened. The celebration of Don Lemon. As we saw in the Grammy Awards, walk in the red carpet, get in standing ovation. You know what? Somewhat. This was predictable. I knew this was going to happen. I told you it would happen. This was the moment he had been waiting for to finally become a celebrity. We had rid him of the news world. But now we've decided to make Don Lemon once again relevant. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3-110. Again, as President Trump says he doesn't agree with the Iranians and is pushing forward with what it could look like as Iran threatens what they're calling what a regional war, a area war. If a deal isn't sparked and we know that we're talking about days away. That's right. What's going on now is we saw that there was an armada of US Navy that was sent over to the region, very close to where the Iranians live and that this armada was there specifically as a deterrence and also trying to get them to stop going after the protesters that were in the streets of Iran. Iatola made a statement over the weekend that said if the US were to attack Iran, it could cause a regional war. What we're also seeing is that the administration with Steve Wittkoff is planning on meeting in Istanbul this Friday with the Iranian Foreign Minister to discuss a possible nuclear deal. The administration said that the Iranians wanted to talk because of all the pressure of the United States was putting on the regime in relation to all these protests that have been going on in Iran. But now it's getting back to the nuclear issue. The armada of the US Navy that is there, some of the most powerful warships as President Trump said in the region on the doorstep of the Iranians, are there as a deterrent to one continue going after these protesters, but as well as a backstop if these negotiations were to fail. President Trump was asked about the comment from the Supreme Leader from the Iatola yesterday at a press gaggle. And let's go ahead and play that for people and hear how President Trump responded by one. So we will have our ships there. We have a meeting in a couple of days. Hopefully we'll make a deal. But then if we don't make a deal, we'll find out whether the Iatola was right or not about a US attack sparking a regional war. The threat obviously there from the President that if the Iranians aren't able to make a deal that a US attack could be imminent. Yeah, and look, I want to know what you think about this. This is, you know, again, kind of gives everyone a bit of a reminder of what could have happened in previous years, what happened during the war on terror. Does it make you feel good about this? Do you think we need to get involved in Iran? Do you think we need to set this one out? Do you want there to be a deal with Iran also that could keep the current administration in power? I think that is a big concern. As we are finally, it felt like on the verge of a revolution once again in Iran. And now is that look like a few steps backwards. Again, we'll discuss that coming up in the next segment. But I want to hear from you, the American people, 1-800-6843-110 to have your voice heard on the air today, 1-800-6843-110. The dangers in Iran is at tipping point. And we know that Christians often tend to be punished disproportionately during these uprisings. And we want you to get involved. So I would take us to some urgent legal action. Today, we have filed a vital submission to the UN Human Rights Council on Iran. We'll get into that coming up. And also, Jordan was featured this morning at the International Religious Freedom Summit in Washington, DC. You're going to see some of that. Jordan's going to join us a little bit later. We'll be right back. Now, tonight's not the 1-800-6843-110. Definitely going to restate what we're discussing today, which is, of course, President Trump saying, look, are there on or attacks on Iran? Aren't off the table? As we know, negotiations look like they may happen this coming week. Maybe as soon as Friday, well, I'll actually sit down and have some discussions with Iran that does continue a really interesting conversation of Where do you do when you when you decide to make a deal with these kind of regimes? What are the consequences of the fallout beyond just protection of your own people, which I believe we need protection of the United States? What about the people in Iran who are on the verge of a revolution now they're seeing a potential step back? What does that mean? We do have a lot of calls coming in on it as well, but well, maybe we just need to restate it maybe play president Trump one more time So people can understand the situation. Let's actually start with that with president Trump, which you saw in the last segment this again Discussing the fact that the supreme leader of Iran Essentially said if nothing is reached if a deal isn't reached a regional war could be sparked take a listen Iran is pretty later today That you Spark a regional war Why wouldn't you say that push you can say that But we have the biggest worst kind of push ups in the world over there very close a couple of days and hopefully we'll make it here. We don't make it here And we'll find out whether or not he was right. So where does this come from all of this? Obviously you need to give some background some history of where we're at remember the Trump administration through Steve Whitkopf and Jared Kushner and many of these other individuals were negotiating with the Iranians over their nuclear program last summer and Then we remember the 12-day war between Israel and Iran which kind of culminated with the United States bombing the nuclear sites of Iran That was when we knew that the the talks were not progressing They were just a stall tactic by the Iranians as is expected But the Trump administration was giving them the benefit of the doubt and when they gave him the Iranians a deadline like listen We have a hard out at this point like we are going to say no more And what did the United States do? They Made good on their promise to do something about it and bombed the nuclear sites now This is a little different But it has gotten the Iranians to kind of come back to the table because this all sparked with those protests that became It began in late December we're now in February they dominated the news They at first were not talked about at all then they kind of rose into the news And now we're not hearing about it as much because of domestic issues. That's the news cycle But what we were hopeful for was that the Iranian people themselves Could overthrow the tyrannical death cult that has been in leadership since the 70s there and What we're now seeing and this is kind of a concern and I want to also get people's thoughts on this is that Now that the Iranians are saying hey, let's have a nuclear deal talk again on Friday President Trump is still being very strong with them He sent our moda of ships a large group of some of those powerful Navy ships off Into the region not far from Iran where strikes could be made against the Iranians if the president decides to make that call The president said he was going to stand up for the protesters Now the Iranians are dangling this nuclear issue again taking the hopefully not taking the administration the secretary of state and the president They're eye off the ball here because the nuclear issue the Iranians had already Bok that and not gotten to a Aminable place with the administration last summer But now they're wanting to have this talk in Istanbul on Friday I don't want this to derail what the people of Iran have started there if this because one of the biggest criticisms We had of the Obama administration was their nuclear deal which was awful It wasn't a good deal I do trust that anything the president would put forward would be a lot stronger than what the Obama administration did However, what did that deal do it in a way legitimize the Iranian regime for a lot longer than it should have in the wake of the green revolution Which was something that was the other time in history? We were closest to seeing the people overthrow the government. We have a call basically on that exactly Let's go to Tom and West Virginia Tom go ahead Yeah, thank you for taking my call Obviously in 2009 who saying Obama just pretty much gave lip service to a popular Revolt that went on with the Persian people of Iran and I have no ill will to the people of Iran I have ill will to the Islamists that run that country that had since 1979 Have said death to Israel death to America and as the great poet laureate Maya Angelou once said When somebody tells you who they are Believe them and I would like to give one other just quick notation The Billy isle said we live on stolen land. So you know something for all those highly Affluent white liberals that feel that we live on stolen land Give your land your little piece of property back to the nearest native American tribe and put the money where your mouth is I'm set up with these people and thank you for taking my call I'm thanks for calling obviously Tom referring back to the Grammy Awards last night where essentially the topic of immigration and ice Was on the front of just about everyone's Acceptance speech, you know maybe not for Brandon Lake and jelly roll but other than that It feels like it was kind of who what people would say and I mean not it's saying everybody cuz I have to go through everyone But it certainly was the conversation piece not unexpectedly it was a standing ovation moment for a lot of people when they were looking for their moment of celebration Not everyone went political a lot did with that and look I think there's a lot to be said right now in terms of how people are responding to all of that But you are right that was one that was maybe a bit aggressive in terms of that whole concept That's true then we're all kind of dealing with a whole different Situation it look we've actually been Representative been worked with a lot of the Native American tribes in their land and the reservations here in the United States And now, yeah, maybe Tom's got some Some points because give me a call though 186 8 4 3 1 10 if you want to continue this conversation in the next segment Also, we're gonna hear from Jordan He is a video that we're gonna play and then he's gonna be joining us a little bit later because he was at a featured panelist at the international Religious Freedom Summit that was today in Washington DC So we're gonna discuss that coming up again a big moment a lot of you are calling in I do want to kind of hear from you as we kind of continue this conversation so 1 800 6 8 4 31 10 1 800 6 8 4 3 1 1 0 it is interesting to see You got to be always careful with this the new cycle and how it shifts and how it moves of course We're gonna also discuss other topics. We said was very nice to not have another day Talking about Minnesota another day talking about a Don Lemon necessarily however We've seen sort of the news cycle now move back to Iran But promise when the news cycle moves off of Iran. I feel like the American people do as well They forget about what's going on around the world you start you it feels like the American people according to the news According to the mainstream media have the attention span for one story and one story only at a time I don't believe that to be the case you know how we do this show each and every day is different and often the show has multiple topics in one day I think that you all can can you know walk into bubble gum at the same time you can't actually pay attention to what's happening But it's very easy take your eye off the ball Get outraged over you know one issue Getting a bot argument online and forget that there's a verge of revolution happening Not that far away. I mean remember we live in a pretty small earth to begin with However when you're about the Middle East, you know, you could get there today if you really wanted to you could be there in a dozen hours No problem Well, let's remember that when we're talking about what's happening and when there's a threat of a regional war of course There are shades of a war on terror on this and there are some people who get concerned I could turn with it over Israel and Gaza you get concerned over when you start having these moments where America starts to get a little more involved Then maybe President Trump ran on I'm not saying it's the wrong thing. I actually am very much in favor for a new Iran I think Iran can be a wonderful place under a new leadership So when a deal starts getting struck and people start talking about that sure I have all four protecting American lives protecting troops protecting but when it starts to go at the potential shelving of a revolution That could lead to a enormous amount of human lives saved in long run. It is a little concern Well, but to that point as well What the Trump administration has long said their demands are ever run a run will never agree to right So I really don't think that I don't think a deal We get it a war when the wrong is possible right well and once again That's where President Trump is saying we'll see if it sparks a regional war because it didn't spark a regional war when we bombed your nuclear sites is it empty threat and right and I think that what you've also seen is how diminished Hasbola is how diminished the who these are how diminished Hamas are the regional war would be from those proxy groups Hasbola and Lebanon Hamas and Gaza the Houthis in Yemen and The IRGC at this point Is that an empty threat from the Iatola? Yes, they may try to spark a regional war But have they lost one control of the command of those of those terror groups are those terror groups even willing to die for Iran at this point And so I think that is where the calculus of the president being strong sending the Navy there and Putting that threat right on the doorstep of Iran is that something they even have the capacity at this point to respond to I Am curious what comes out of any sort of meeting on Friday, but I am also cautious that I don't want it to be Another decades plus mistake of propping up that region with that We are mobilizing our ACLJ team to make sure that we are there and available for Christians in Iran who need their help around the globe even So take action with us once you assign our petition We just launched ACLJ dot org slash sign do it today and if you're able become an ACLJ champion while you're there We're curing monthly donor go to ACLJ dot org make your donation and select to become a champion We really would appreciate it. 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Making sure we're there for you all of that happens Because you support the work financially of the ACLJ at ACLJ dot org and if you become a champion We'd really appreciate it on days like today also my brother Jordan Seconded director here at the ACLJ. He's in Washington DC. That's where he is a lot right now So if you don't see him on here. You know he's been traveling this morning He was a feature panelist at the international religious freedom summit in Washington DC Urging the nations to promote religious freedom Globally and this is something well the ACLJ has been involved in a many different ways But now we are seeing the main stage work here from our team. Well, that's right And I think it's also important to reiterate why we do all this work one because we believe deeply in our hearts to fight for the persecuted When no one else will in many cases But also because if you don't fight persecution wherever it is Then you see it come closer and closer to our shores and unfortunately we have seen where people are Disrespecting and disregarding the first amendment the freedom of religion in our own country now when you look at what happened in Minneapolis where the protesters Stormed the church and disrupted worship now that is not in any way Close to what we are seeing around the world yet But we know that persecution will find its way wherever it can and so we have to fight it not just here in the United States But everywhere and even this morning we filed at the UN Human Rights Council a document on Iran talking about Specifically the persecution of Christians even among what is going on with the protests there in site specific cases and call out Iran to the UN how they have an obligation under the universal Declaration of human rights to ensure that its citizens have a freedom of religion and I think it's that's why it's so important is that our ECLJ team filing this today on Iran at the UN at the same time Jordan is on a panel with the Religious freedom summit and I think we should go to that right now and hear some from Jordan before we talk to him in A couple segments from our DC studio, but just from that panel. Let's go ahead and roll that ACLJ is a Nationwide organization grassroots you hear from the grassroots every day Give us some advice on how you translated that energy outside the beltway to move the needle here in Washington So I think what's important is I think through our entire time with the ACLJ and we started domestically and then we grew internationally pretty quickly In very diverse kind of places whether it's Strasfer which are European headquarters, but we're in India Pakistan We were in Russian we might be again, you know if if if if the sanctions are lifted and they were able to Survive through their legal process there, but We're also in Israel, but our first client after we opened our Israeli office was a Palestinian Christian family whose husband was killed By Hamas he was the head of the Bible Society in Gaza and she just needed to get to the West Bank to Be reunited with her family and this was a day before operation cast led again. We didn't know that the time We got the call though because Israel knew She was our client and we had worked at the UN we had worked at Kevin exposes to the point where Hamas They went to the to the gate and they took her there and they said no no one's opening this gate today And Israel that was like talking about the phone they said and this is these are stories that work because it brings people in So from one fan I'm talking to to to the Israelis Other I've got her and then he hands she hands the phone to the mosque. I'm like listen You can't follow her Let when she gets to the halfway point the gate will open And you need to close your gate immediately and so I could confirm that with these and it happened And and so you can do that a day before a country goes to war if you push hard enough That kind of story for years drove supporters of the ACLJ because they realized wow we get this is not just about you know an issue that you can resolve in the US civilly And you know even at the US Supreme Court This is about saving people's lives So if and most of our faith call us to do that if we can to save the save the innocent almost every faith calls for that So if we're truly practicing our own faith that's how we talked our probably if you're truly practicing your own faith You can't Ignore the issues in your own country you want to handle those first like Melissa said We have to if you're going to come doing this from the United States The US has to be protecting religious liberty here at a very robust level too And why I think we are the greatest country in the world when it comes to doing that We see how quickly things start slipping in even our with our western allies When the speech religious speech also kind of intertwines with political like I got back to initially is that We do understand a robust religious liberty can change a country And it can not just not just It's people, but it's entire ways perceived around the world and so again those stories People understanding how it can make them safer, but also The dictate of their faith. Yeah, yeah, all of them to do something And that was just a small clip of what Jordan was sharing there again at the international religious freedom summit Today in Washington DC he's me joining us in about two segments So you make sure you stay tuned to hear from him more about what he was doing up there Well maybe give us a brief background on what this was and the reason our team was there Right, and this is such an important summit. This is one that The international religious freedom summit that the ACLJ has had connections with and and worked with on many different issues And it comes with a bunch of groups that are from different backgrounds There are people that represent different faiths there and going forward and being able to Speak the message of what the ACLJ fights for to a group of individuals that may not have the same Political or philosophical background Be able to hear that powerful message from Jordan about why it's important that even groups like the ACLJ Exist and can fight one to remind we have to keep Protecting it here at home But also even the story about us Helping get that Christian family out of Gaza It it's not something that even people that may disagree with us politically are used to hearing from what they think of just the Christian conservative group And they certainly shouldn't realize you know we've been doing that that story is getting close to 20 years ago now That's that's a story that you know we've been working on those cases for a long time well before it was Popular to talk about these issues the ACLJ was there and will be there long after it's popular Because these issues are what matters to us the most And with that we're only about 58 seconds left in this segment of the show We have a second half hour coming up So if some of you don't get us in your local markets if you're listening to a restaurant radio Find us broadcasting on series xm on ACLJ.org YouTube rumble however you get your podcast We're gonna be there live but we'll also be there archived later on if you're listening to this later on Second half hour is available on ACLJ.org or again, however you get your podcast But I'm encouraged you right now. 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This is secular And now your host Logan secular welcome to secular second half hour of the broadcast coming up my brother Jordan secular is joining us in just a moment to talk about his Panel speech that he did today at the I want to make sure I get it right the international religious freedom summit Washington DC so he's gonna be joining us a little bit later if you didn't see a clip from that Play in the last segment you can go back and watch it on your own time I want to take some calls because we have a few lines open I want to actually open up some more so hopefully you get inspired to call in as well at 1-800-684-31-10 Star off with Christos who's calling online one of Massachusetts. Go ahead Yes, sir. Thank you for taking my call Um The United States has to be the defender of freedom around the world We've got countries like China We've got Russia Somalia the problems in the Gaza Sudan And hence, but not being supported by Iran. This has got to come to an end In the Ukraine we see many lives being lost innocent lives The war didn't start mostly politically it happened as a result of the desire of the Ukraine to join NATO Russia was Told them if they had joined NATO there would be a problem and then I know as to many of the public that The Ukraine was bombing Russian citizens inside The Ukraine Yeah, Christos, I think there's a lot of concern overall You know you kind of called for the US to be the world protector of human rights I know this is barely disagree with you But I am curious where our people are and where our audience is on that kind of concept that is a very Christos to probably date you and to date me that feels like a very 2001 conservative point of view Trump kind of changed a lot of that came in and said not only America first but a little bit more isolationist a little bit more protect You know even when he's talking about Greenland he's talking about doing that too Create essentially the iron dome of America, you know having a way to shoot down rockets and to not get involved in these wars and different levels So I am curious if the people Who voted Republic in the last few times are with you Christos on your belief of America being this sort of human rights protector of the world um The heart of the matter of me certainly doesn't disagree with you I think that there's sure there's a level we need to be getting involved or not getting involved But I don't know if that's just because of our age because of our upbringing you have a whole new generation Who come through I'm looking at the chat to see if anyone responds? Let me know what you think of the chat Well, I also think there's a different way to look at that as well is that What historically that meant was military engagement to compel human rights staying within human rights Issues and freedom The way that President Trump in the administration does it they have the strong military as the as the Big stick as as Teddy Roosevelt would have said However It that's not always the first move. They don't lead with we're going to go attack you or they may threaten that But say but here's how you can do this first but you've seen the the novel ways that this administration has used things like economic strength economic warfare So to speak on many different countries when it comes to tariffs was it comes to stopping trade with certain countries Due to their either their human rights record Or the way that they're treating their own people That I think has been very effective in many areas and you are starting to see things Change in different ways So it may not be that people disagree with Christos Or even that Christos is saying that he disagrees with That as well It's just that we think of it being as the US leading with military first And it doesn't have to be that way to try and get positive outcomes around the world My brother Jordan Seculos and we joining us in the next segment. We're going to continue to take your calls at 6843110 call us be a part of the show today again. That's at 6843110 Jordan just stepped off the stage at the international religious freedom summit washington DC So it's going to be great to hear from him and hear all the updates was coming out of our legal headquarters You know, we're here broadcasting out of our media center The frozen tundra of Nashville, Tennessee, which is finally starting to fall today But we're going to be joining with Jordan up in washington DC when we get back So stay on hold if you're on hold if you want to call in good time to do it 1 800 6843110 Welcome back to secular my brother Jordan Seculos executive directors joining us from washington DC right now Just stepping off the stage at the international human or international religious freedom summit washington DC We saw some of that during the break We also saw clip from it a little bit earlier Jordan Why don't you get us an update of why you were there what this was why it was important to be there and just get through it So it's a bit that's put together every year near the national prayer breakfast that brings in people from all over the world To hear from really mostly Americans About how we can work on spreading religious liberty Internationally and my panel was actually on it was the opening panel of the day in the main room It was on how do we get people to care about this in the western world and I think you're the first point that almost every panel is made Was that we have to take religious liberty serious at home and that was point one point to and to be a good example to the world Point point three is that is something that I think we've learned from being at the aclj is that you have to be able to tie it To actual stories It's very difficult when you just say 500 people got killed in someplace yesterday because people It's just something they're had it's they hear horrible things in the news every day But if you can tell the story of an actual client whether you bring the husband the wife the children That pulls at people's hard strings regardless of what faith background they may be and so that then engages them in the process So our whole panel was you know when all these other things are going on the world And I think the number two to that is that if you look to countries that have actual religious liberty which I define as You can believe in whatever faith you want you can believe in no faith at all you should be able to clear it the government should protect your speech I protect you from those who might want to harm you because of your speech and you can even create your own faith I mean, so it's a pretty why I mean it's very American kind of western idea that that would be acceptable to the rest of the world But in countries that do have that flexibility to some extent Those are likely allies with the United States now every ally doesn't have religious liberty We know that but our best allies do and so the more countries we can get to adopt actual Religious liberty which means protections for all religious people and people who aren't religious at all Though the safer the United States is the less peacekeeping we have to do Logan around the world Yeah, I think it's always important for the ACLJ team to be there and to be making a statement You were able to be there a lot of people are calling in with their points of view of course today We are talking about Iran and and Iran sort of ties into all of this Yeah, and Jordan I think it's important to point out to people as well that today While you were speaking as a part of this panel We also were filing at the UN Human Rights Council on Iran and all these issues tied together But even how you mention The the western style protection of religious liberty We also know that we have to continue and that's what makes the ACLJ so Unique is we fight for religious liberty abroad as well as at home We've seen the attacks on religious liberty over the past weeks even here at home And I think to that audience being able to reiterate these values that we have in America even when we know they're under attack constantly To showcase that this is should be the model for the world How do you think that was Received and even how you were able to explain that to that audience today So I think you know with former ambassador senator and governor sam brownback who runs this event with Katrina Lanto sweat whose a father was a holocaust survivor and there's a Lanto's commission on religious freedom inside Congress And so she's very involved in these issues too There were people from all different faith backgrounds that approached us after I spoke Because we talked about our international work that we do as well It's not just based in America you've got off went through the offices that we have around the world And I really did that for the audience so that if they saw us walking out They know that we don't just do work here and talk about other places So I had though on stage with me and I think this is what is important for people to kind of take away So to my left was Ahmed Shaheed he was the UN rapitore for religious liberty When you step not a car he was in prison and facing death by hanging So he is who we are working with on that case to the right of me was Melissa Rogers She was the Obama administration's head of the faith-based office And someone who was actually very key And making sure the contraception mandate that a lot of the Catholic churches and hospitals and organizations Were opposed to and even the abortion pill mandate that that wasn't only going to be exempt for churches She was the one that got the administration to compromise to say that all You know any christ any religious group that that objects to this whether or not they're a church or an organization or a hospital They can do that and they're not You know out of compliance with Obamacare So of course we don't agree on all policies But it's pretty easy as Americans to agree on religious liberty that we should be able to believe or not believe what we want And change our views when we want to without fear of death without fear of imprisonment Obviously we see discrimination against Christians in the United States It we take care of that was cases, you know every single day what we never wanted to become is persecution You know, we we can't allow our country to be a leader on religious liberty and actually you know Persecuting to the point of not just putting people in prison for a day for a pro-life protest But not doing anything about a church being stormed which I believe if the Biden administration was in charge right now or The Kamala Harris administration People would not be arrested for storing that church those police stood by and let it happen and that is a story that we want to be You know one and done in the United States because if those stories get out around the world they just say that they don't really believe that either Yeah, exactly and I think that they have to take all of that seriously and and look I think when we saw that really Very coordinated not just protest but We use a disruption and ending of that church service thing it woke a lot of people up I think it woke a lot of church leaders up to how they're gonna be able to do security because we have a few hunt different when you have one bad actor that shows up at your church you can quickly remove them or figure it out But when you have these groups of a hundred plus what are you gonna do in that situation? And a lot of people look or calling in and talking about oh what's going on on the world stage and they see LJ as you said Jordan has been Working in Europe and working all over the world some places we can work some places we can't work anymore We are always getting involved wherever we can because you know some people have called in and said we need to make sure that the sort of the western philosophies Of American religious values Are upheld wherever they can be and you've placed this like Europe which we worked in for many years decades now Finally kind of coming around to some of the views that the ECLJ the European arm of the ACLJ has held as Something very important to us for a long time and finally took a couple decades. You are seeing Europe start to respond Yes, but you're also seeing the pushback and so for those leaders like in France Marine Le Pen great example someone who was going to she was going and by all poll accounts was going to win the next presidential election So what did they do they charged her with a 15 year old 15 year old crime that wasn't a crime So retroactive law that changed and that means she can't she can't be on the ballot So you've got to then run someone much younger who wasn't as well known So we see there that that is persecution to me that's pursue if you're imprisoning someone because you know they may Have a political victory that you oppose so the fridge state doesn't want to be I guess the make France great again kind of movement So they push back to the point where they will imprison you and you know house arrest and make it and post and if you if that happens to you Uh, you can't run for office in France even while the case is pending the appeals take years and so effectively she's now frozen out of political office That is that's again the kind of fight we're engaged in in Europe to make sure it doesn't go the way of An anti religious almost kind of Soviet feeling Country where it's embarrassing to even admit that you're religious or you have to be underground like in the mid some so many countries in the Middle East Because if you come above ground you'll be killed Jordan and once again as we talk about all these and we remind people that the work Not only here in the United States, but at the ECLJ never stops Uh, I just wonder if you have any more one final message to people that what you took away from that Religious freedom summit being able to be on a panel once again showcasing that the the ACLJ not just a partisan group that being on a panel with Individuals that come from very different philosophies mindsets religious traditions Um, that religious freedom doesn't have to be partisan and there are people that even worked within the Obama administrations and other administrations that agree with groups like the ACLJ on this importance of religious freedom Because it's that first freedom You know in our bill of rights and is our first freedom because if you actually have Religious liberty and you tie that to there's no religious tests for political office and article six of the Constitution That doesn't mean you as a voter don't get to decide and judge candidates based off maybe their faith That's up to you But the government can't put into test and the government can't get involved in your religious faith If you truly have that you have a very free society And isn't that what we want for most of the world to experience the freedom that we have but to accept that freedom Means you'll hear things you don't like They'll be people with face you disagree with and you have to learn how to live together in harmony as best you can And that is the American experience and experiment that we're still living in our 250th anniversary Absolutely look. Thank you for joining us Jordan from Washington DC always great to hear from you It's always great to hear all the work that your team is doing up there When you see Jordan Making these statements being in on a panel like will set an on partisan situation here You know you got to remember where aclj team with the strength of the aclj team On a national and international basis and I want you to be involved as well Easy way to become a supporter of the aclj if you're brand new you'd ever seen us before You may be watching on youtube get that subscribe, but it really helps us out But if you've been here while you want to know more how to get engaged you can sign a petition Of course you can donate today at aclj.org. I'm gonna encourage you to do so As we head into our final segment, we're gonna take your calls at 186 8 4 31 tents down hole if you're on hold We'll get to some new calls as well Welcome back to Sec Yala we gotta get right to it. We got three lines open though If you want to call in good time to do it Maybe I'm making on the air today 186 8 4 31 10 but everyone's been a hold over half an hour and I appreciate it So start off with Alex we've been a hold way more than a half hour Alex line three you are on the air Hi guys, hey just want to appreciate the good job that you do Um just had a brief question for you. I stumbled across this article over the weekend where they were talking about Saudi Arabia in denying Trump using the airspace Because uh, you know in relation to a In military land. Yeah, yes. Yes. So I'm I'm a little concerned about that because I know It seems like lately we've we've really made a big effort to uh Really be good friends with them and uh show them respect in different levels and I understand today you're talking about Iran has foreclaimed that they'll do a regional war and maybe this is just their effort to try to Send a signal to Iran that look um, you know We're we're gonna try to do our best to stay out of it. What what really is that position? Yeah, Alex I think that one it's not Something that's surprising that the Saudis would say you know a minister within their government um Anonymously told reporters that uh that it would be something that if the US were to they can't use our airspace one that is not abnormal Because they try to remain um Out of it within what bombers flying over your your country as well, right? But I here's at the end of the day. First of all If there was a need I think the Saudis would actually capitulate and let the administration do Whatever is needed I think the administration one does not need to go over Saudi airspace to get to Iran plenty of other ways that they can either fly bombers or Launch missiles that will not infringe on the sovereign airspace of the Saudis to if they did need it I think the Saudis would come to the table They may have a statement like we object to this However, that is mainly within their own population Um, there you have to remember Saudi Arabia in different country than the United States a lot of Iran Subitbiteers Isisisers would be within that country, but here's the other thing as well The the US just approved a nine billion dollar arms sale to Saudi Arabia a few days ago I don't think that the Saudis would do anything to put that in jeopardy either So I get it. It's a headline. It's a posturing headline It's not really something to be concerned about. Yeah, right though Alex me Saudi Arabia has made huge moves in terms of trying to Kind of market to the west market to America. I watched the WWE Royal Rumble live from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Built a stadium for professional wrestling in the middle of the middle of their country This is what they are doing. They are certainly there's a lot of I'd say quote-unquote propaganda involved in it when you watch To say look how much we've changed look what we've done here I've never seen more promotion to try to get me to travel to Riyadh Saudi Arabia or anywhere really I'd say anywhere in the Middle East as much as maybe Dubai and now Saudi Arabia So you are right. They are certainly trying to get Americans on board. So we'll see where that goes Let's go to Ryan in California Ryan line two. You're on the air Hey, look and he talked about Iran. I think that we should do as much as we can to get Iran to get the shots out Because the Iran wanted to go west and become more western I think it comes at a critical time right now where the Davidson window is only about 300 days away and that's When Philip Davidson retired admiral for Indo-Paycom said that January 1st, 2027 is kind of window when China will be ready to take us on to take Taiwan and present Cheezing some paying has said that his whole presidency is around the reunification of Taiwan So Sarah Paine of the Naval College you can see on YouTube has said that He has said he's gonna do it is So weakening the axis of evil Russia is weakened right now because of the war and if we remove the Iranian Islamic threat to be an axis of evil now we China's kind of alone and isolated and this Provide this more time to build up our fleet again Reposition ourselves and I think that that could be a great deterrent over yeah Well go ahead and Ryan to that point. Yes, I agree and I think it's another piece of the puzzle that people miss when you talk about Venezuela The the amount of people are always like why did how does Venezuela in Iran Iran has oil? Why do they need Venezuela? It's not so much the oil But it is the shipping fleet the way that they're Their craft are flagged under different Caribbean nations and things that are able to avoid US sanctions So Iran themselves can sell their own oil on this Venezuelan ghost fleet that isn't as suspicious as the Iranian ships doing it themselves that being kind of Put a major dampers on that from taking out Nicholas Maduro That takes another revenue source out of not just Iran, but also an energy supplier to Russia and China Yes, all of these things are a big picture of stability in the world that may at some time seem like It's about specifically the drug trafficking in Venezuela It's specifically about the protester the nuclear program in Iran It is specifically about Taiwan or sanctions or dollar destabilization with China They're all tied together because those that are enemies of the United States are working together to destabilize the United States So when you take strong decisive action against one it does weaken all the other so it's a great call Ryan Yeah, great call Don is calling it's a little off topic, but we'll take you to my home for a while Don go ahead Oh, sorry man Great job great great show I came just right in your real house. There's a bishop. I read this in the associated press An episcopal bishop in New Hampshire is telling his clergy to Get their last will and testament in order get their affairs in order and prepare for a new era of martyrdom and they having his vigil for like Renee good and They're not defending civil rights are defending civil wrongs right good try to run over a nice officer He shot her to save his own life I mean if you're defending that and if you're defending you know illegal alien criminals that have been released in the community Because of sanctuary laws They are dead wrong on this and you know lord Jesus told us himself Rendera and deceaser that which is Caesar's renderer unto God that which is God and we're just enforcing Laws that are on the books the legal laws and so they're all wet on this issue. I'm being polite, but That's not right. Yeah, Don I know the story. This is an episcopal Bishop in New Hampshire that said get your wills ready be prepared for dramatic Here here's the one thing They have religious freedom they if that is the church you want to go to that that is the type of sermon That you are wanting to hear and that is the type of leadership, which I think is a reckless leadership Then then you have that freedom to do so that's what we talked about With Jordan that the United States has a lot of Start your own religion go at it right Give me idea which is true But at the same time Don I think it's a reckless statement from clergy. Yeah, of course, but at the same time There you have to also think Biblically there is a time where the government will be coming against Christians and those of us that have faith in Christ that at what point does the You can't just offhandedly say any pastor saying stand up for your belief is Is somehow wrong or illegal? I think it's reckless here. I don't think it's the right thing Yeah, I could see it's the same time the government is not always going to protect you All right with that I'm wrapping up this show. We'll be back tomorrow. I hope you join us If you can support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org where the financial leaders go read some stuff share some stuff Be a part of it. You're on YouTube hit that subscribe button Until next time we'll see you tomorrow back live new needs start