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And now also just random influencers and accounts that- You just sealed the report. Any accurate information whatsoever. It lends such credibility. It does. And it starts with judge. The siren started to judge. That's true. The siren doesn't make sense as a news break. And reporters started doing it. And then just random influencer, just, you know, trying to gather information that's not in any way that just shows up in your for you algorithm. People with names like Joey Bloomberg. Yeah. And then Bloomberg is reporting it. It's like collapsed the market for like two or five minutes. It is all caps anyway. Anyway, all of this comes after Trump rejected Iran's response to the one page memo. They kept just kept telling it was one page. It's the right length of the memo. They got it all on one page. Anyway, rejected. Which Iran waited 10 days to send and included demands for U.S. reparations and permanent Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz. Trump called that quote totally unacceptable and inappropriate before elaborating on his initial reaction in the Oval on Monday. I would say the ceasefire is on massive life support where the doctor walks in and says, Sir, your loved one has approximately a 1% chance of living. It's unbelievably weak. I would say I would call it the weakest right now. After reading a piece of garbage they sent us. I didn't even finish reading it. It was just unacceptable. You know, a lot of people said, well, does you have a plan? Yeah, of course they do. I'm the best plan ever. I have a plan. You know what it is? A very simple plan. I don't know why you don't say it like it is. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. We need to allow the removal of all their enriches. Yeah. Well, they did two days ago. They didn't, okay? They did two days ago. They said, you're going to have to take it. We were going to go with them. But they changed your mind because they didn't put it in the bank. I've had to deal with them four or five times. They changed your mind. They're very dishonorable people. The leadership. Exhausting. Who would have thunk it? He's learning a lot of lessons over and over and over again. He's maybe not learning them. It drives me crazy when he says, I have a plan. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. No, that's a goal. Yeah. That's what you want. What a plan. The plan is how you get to that. Yeah, right. That's a destination. That's a damn. You need a route. You need a journey. So far as we start week 11 of the war, it doesn't seem like that plan is bearing fruit. It's also funny that he didn't read the whole one-page memo. Yeah, finished. Well, yeah, get to the bottom of the thing. Maybe there's some good stuff at the bottom. What if there's some pictures? Yeah. Tommy, why do you think the Laos deal fell apart? And what other options does Trump have at this point? I mean, all the details weren't public, but I think that the US sent over a bunch of hardline nuclear demands. And the Iranians were like, nah, we just want you to stop blockading the Strait of Hormuz and give us all this shit. And that's our take. And so now we're back. So all the options are bad. I mean, he can restart the war, which is extremely unlikely to lead to regime change, but will certainly lead to economic chaos in the region. He can keep the blockade going and hope that the economic pain breaks the Iranian regime before it breaks the global economy. I don't think that's going to work either. And then he can find a way to declare victory and slink away, which seems like the most likely option. But Iran will probably control the Strait of Hormuz in that case. I'm very interested in how he keeps talking about the leaders in all these different ways. First, he likes the new leaders because they're better than the old leaders. They killed all the old leaders. Then he also does sometimes, we don't know who the leaders are. And then this one was, they're awful. They're dishonorable people. They're lunatics. Yeah, it's also, we've been through so many rounds of reporting in which Trump felt we were on the precipice of a deal and then the talks fall apart. But if you take out the spinning coming from the administration, is it possible that really they've just been far apart the whole time? Because the Venn diagram of, on one side, you have Trump requiring a deal that is better than the JCPOA, the Obama deal, because he said that deal was the worst he'll ever made. On the other side, you have Iran in a stronger position than when the war began, wanting a better deal than that, including consequences to the US reparations for the cost of the war and the power it's gained from having control of the Strait of Hormuz. Those circles don't overlap. So what are we doing here? Yeah, exactly. We just, we keep, and then the reporting is so credulous. And so it feels like we're having this up or down, up and down roller coaster. But really, we're just dealing with the kind of strategic reality of this stupid fucking war. Yeah. It sounds like. It comes me out personally. Same. Well, it also sounds like, and they said that they, in all these plans and proposals that Iran keeps sending back or responding to, it sounds like they just want to keep control of the Strait of Hormuz. No doubt. And why wouldn't they? Or they want sanctions relief. Or they want one or the other. They need a financial lifeline. Right. But it's also like they're sending over their maximalist position. We send over our maximalist position, and then we just get mad and walk away. That's not how negotiations work. Get in a room, hash it out, give a little on each side, and maybe we can come to some conclusion. But they're just like, they're not even trying. Trump's like, I didn't read the one page memo all the way to the bottom. Bob Kagan, the hawkish neocon Iraq war supporting Bob Kagan, that one. Just wrote a piece in the Atlantic. He's Robert to me. I'm not close enough to call him Bob. I call him Robert. Bobby. But I mean. I call him Bobby. He just wrote a piece in the Atlantic titled Checkmate in Iran that starts, it's hard to think of a time when the United States suffered a total defeat in the conflict, a setback so decisive that the strategic loss could be neither repaired nor ignored. He then ticks through every conflict since Pearl Harbor and basically makes the case that Trump's fuck up in Iran will be more consequential than all of them. What'd you guys think? I just want to just, before we get into the details of it, the neocon high dudgeon of the 2000s I still do not miss. Look, this is a very big blunder. I think it's a little premature to be saying it's worse than Pearl Harbor. Oh, see, I thought Pearl Harbor was actually one of the easier ones because Pearl Harbor, his thing was like, we came back and we won that one pretty decisive. Sure, in hindsight, it looks pretty fucking good. But a year or so after Pearl Harbor, things were pretty up in the air. I think we're going to go to Iraq because that one was, he was like, and then eventually we left Iraq stay more stable. And I'm like, oh, did we? A lot of yada yada yada there for Iraq. That was my big note too. I want to build the biggest 10 possible. But his idea that Iraq was mitigated by a strategic change and then all's well that ends well because Saddam's not there now, yeah, that was a little much for me. But this is all, like, throat clearing around what was truly a bracing and just dismal read on the situation, including laying out just how few options Trump has. Because part of the reason he called off military strikes wanted a ceasefire is because of the leverage Iran had when it was striking oil and gas infrastructure in the region, how he can try to declare victory. But that still leaves the straight of warm moves, how all the options that Trump has are fucking terrible. Yeah, they're all terrible. And also, the Israelis have also just been crystal clear that they don't think the war is over. If you watch Netanyahu in 60 minutes, he said as much. There's also the war in Lebanon. If you want a weaker ceasefire, I could point you to one, the one in Lebanon, where they're bombing each other all the time. And there's constant fighting, like daily. There's casualties all the time. Yeah, so I agree with this assessment that the Iranians are not going to give up the straight of her moves unless they get sanctions really for something like really big for it. And that we look weak and we look kind of feckless and unreliable. It's also like the gall of Trump saying, oh, these people are dishonorable. You use previous talks as a smokescreen to bomb the leadership. You have ripped up the previous agreement. You may not have liked it, but it was negotiated in good faith by the United States, whose authority came from Obama to you. So you've kind of undermined our credibility there. They have no confidence that Trump won't change his mind in a couple months and resume bombing if they accept a deal. They have no confidence that Israel won't bomb Iran if it views it in its interest, even if there is a deal. So just the way in which we're stuck in this morass because Trump went into this so half-cocked, it's just gruesome and it's when you step back and look at it. I think there were times in this conflict where people said, oh, I remember thinking this at one point. Oh, he could end up just going back to like Obama's around deal and then call it a victory, but it's going to be like around. We're like, oh, you all criticized Obama for this. I think it's pretty clear now that there's no way he gets a deal that's better or even the same as the Iran deal. It's going to be worse because when the Iran deal was made, Iran didn't control the straight-of-formance. No doubt. Like this piece made me think about the, so like not this, I knew about the strategic importance of the straight, but just from Iran's perspective now, they've got the control. Even they get some sanctions relief, they're going to have to get a lot more sanctions relief and a lot when they're calling it reparations or whatever than they ever were before because they got the straight, they have full control over it now. Maybe they go for a deal where they charge some tolls, maybe they share control with other, you know, Gulf nations. But it seems like the scenario now where Iran willingly signed some kind of a deal where they fully give up the straight of Hormuz and it goes back to being like an international waterway seems very slim. There's no chance. They just got this incredible toy and they're going to play with it for as long as they want until it breaks or someone takes it away. There's just no chance. Also, it could get worse. Like if Trump decides to go back to war, the economic cost could be just a resumption of what we've seen, but also the Houthi rebels could get involved. They're in Yemen. They could start firing at ships in the Red Sea. They could choke off. You know, the Saudis have been sending a lot of their oil and gas that they can't get out through the straight of Hormuz west through a pipeline and then it'll get out through the Red Sea or through the Suez Canal. If the Houthis get involved and they choke off those access points too, like prices could hit $300 at Errol. It's a disaster. And also, by the way, we're not even talking about the reason we're there, which is the nuclear material, the 900 pounds of highly enriched uranium, which sometimes it's dust, sometimes it's critical to get out. It is still sitting in Iran and also all of that material was enriched after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA. So it's a problem he created and now is probably not going to solve. I like the scenario that he mentioned where they were all, we were going to go in together with the Iranians, like just a group field trip to go to dig under the rubble and to find all the nuclear dust together. I'd go. I think that was a real, it's a show I'd watch. I also, like, and this is, so this is Iran giving up the straight, like through some negotiation. Then there's the other option of trying to take it by force, but that requires like, you know, US Navy ships potentially getting fired on and Iran small boats firing on other ships too. And then Kagan points out in this piece too, even if they're not firing on the ships, they can retaliate against Gulf energy infrastructure, like they did hour, many weeks ago before the ceasefire. So like, they have plenty of options Iran. And clearly they are fine taking a whole bunch of punishment because, you know, as the Trump administration likes to point out, they don't give a shit about their own people, they kill protesters, all that kind of stuff. They surely are not going to care if they're going to inflict a ton of economic pain on their country. It's not like they care a lot about their people. So yeah, they're going to have, they're going to have the appetite for a lot of pain. Yeah, that's the part that's sort of like chilling about where we're at because we're in this sort of stalemate in which Trump books like a loser. He can try to declare victory, but there'll still be the ongoing cost of us having kind of shown our might and Iran remaining in power and now controlling the Strait of Hormuz or there's escalation and we've already done, we've already launched a massive campaign against Iran and the regime held together. What escalation looks like, how far they'd have to go because the next escalation is toward the regime collapsing that's a combination of economic pressure to squeeze them. That's more an intense military action. And like it all, and while that is happening, even if it were to happen relatively quickly, you're still talking about Iran unloading, whatever it is it's willing to do in the Gulf. And so just, there are terrible options in front of America's worst person. And this was totally, like Trump is a drunk guy at the bar. He's been lifting a lot. We decided to pick a fight with the crazy guy who was cauliflower-er. 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The president said he'd suspend the tax for as long as it takes, which seems like not that long if you believe Kevin has it, which of course you should, who just said oil prices will drop quickly before the midterms once, quote, the gusher opens. Where's the gusher? I guess in the straight. Chuck Schumer's office, now they'd heard about the gas tax bill. He excites him. Sorry. Just because he loves it, you know, he does the press conference. Yeah, no, yeah for sure. For sure. Suspending the gas tax. Good idea or great idea? Yeah, suspend the gas tax, release all the strategic petroleum reserve, get rid of all the sanctions on Iran, maybe Russia while you're at it. Just go nuts. Prices will stay high, but now we won't be able to pay for highways or mass transit. It's a great idea. Let's do it. Yeah, we already can't pay for those things anyway. And over the last sort of half century, more and more of our roads are paid for without the gas. They asked us as supplemental, but we still pay for it ourselves. I mean, having a gas tax is a good idea, the politics of suspending it are great. Just do it. This is said like someone who was on Hillary Clinton's primary campaign in 2008. Well, I don't even remember. Were we forced to pay? Well, you guys, yeah, I had to think about that too because it's like the mandate fight. No, you guys, when we did the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, Hillary was saying we should suspend the gas tax. And Obama was saying that's just a gimmick and it's bad and we shouldn't do it. And it's just, it's not really gonna affect your prices that much. That one John McCain sent tire gauges to us. That's something different. That was when we were gonna solve. We were making, we wanted people to check. He just suggested people check their tires and they're like, you fucking piece of shit. We like running on these soft tires, cushy. It's cushy, we're not gonna fill up my tires, communist, bastard. But the, yeah, look. But the point is it doesn't actually bring down the price. No, it's what is it, it's 18, 20, 16 to 18 cents a gallon. And then it's a little bit more for diesel. I mean, it's a bigger deal for truck drivers, commercial. Like it does make a big difference for people like that. It's also ridiculous that Trump said he would do this. Can't do it without Congress. There's some bipartisan legislation that was floating around. It might get a little more lift now that he said it, but he can't do it on his own. Or I guess he's not supposed to do it on his own. Who knows, he can try anyway. And yeah, of course it robs the government of revenue. It can't afford to lose because we have a lot of big ticket items that we need to pay for, like bombing Iran and building a ballroom. And now apparently painting the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool American flag blue, which along with some other repairs is apparently gonna cost $13.1 million, according to David Farenhold at the times. This is an apparently it's an 88% jump in the cost of what it's gonna take to repaint the reflecting pool. And you know why it jumped so high? Because Donald Trump decided to give a no-bid contract to the guy who did all his pools at Bedminster. Which is Rudy Giuliani. I hope he feels better. It's also, they're trying to sue it to stop it. It was funny, the guy that was suing, he was like, we just look, it's a process thing, but also we just think they chose a bad color. Which you know they did. You know it's gonna be the tackiest fucking thing in the world. The tackiest blue. Like come on, it doesn't need to look like a goddamn, like splash mountain thing. Like just kind of like. The best blue is North Carolina, Carolina blue. Let's just do that, UNC colors. Now be pretty bright in the reflecting pool. I don't know, I'm just making this up. Why did Kevin Hassett always, he looks like Dennis the Menace just took down the biggest nitrous balloon you've ever seen. Then he just spouts like economic bullshit on. It's like he's the best. Yeah, he's the best. Get him out there. Get him out there. 13 million dollars for the reflecting pool. They're voting on the ballroom this week. I remember that's a billion dollars that they want to add in security. That's just a lot of security. Did you see what? What are we doing to that? Speaking of your boy Chuck Schumer. He coined a new term for Republicans because the ballroom, did you see what it was? Oh, I didn't. No. Ballroom Republicans. He's calling them ball, he's calling the party ballroom Republicans. I know it's one of those I'm like, it's definitely not using a scalpel there. More of a sledgehammer, but maybe he throws out ballroom Republicans and then everyone, it's like a signal and everyone says it in a better way, but everyone knows what the message is. Because he's sharing. Shots me at this point last week that because this billion dollars is in the budget, they're all gonna have to vote on it. And I think that's great. It's a yes or no vote on the fucking ballroom. Terrific. They're saying, oh, it's security, security, Secret Service needs it. Well, would they need it if they didn't have the fucking ballroom? Probably not. But it's like, you knocked down the East Wing and you gotta rebuild it. Did you not, was it a different America in which there wasn't security? When you knocked down a building. Did you put that line item in the budget when you were doing up the budget for the new ballroom? You knew what the thing was gonna fucking cost. It's like, now it's like every fucking, now it's like a football stadium where, you know, these donors are gonna have to go to the big unveiling, because they're the ones responsible about the vast majority of the cost of the taxpayers. If the actual kind of construction is 300 million, but securing the facility as a billion dollars costs that were inevitable and required in order to ever use it, it's a taxpayer ballroom, just 100%. Just trying to add it up here. We got, there's the ballroom, there's the Trump Kennedy Center, there's the arch, we haven't even started building the arch yet. Well, get going. We got the, and now the reflecting pool. They're also, that UFC fight, that's gonna take some doing to put up that and take it down on the White House lawn. Now some of this is like privately funded. It is, of course, it's the worst of all worlds for Trump, best of all worlds for us in the politics, but it's like some of it's being funded by major donors, corporate donors, who now get special access to Trump because of their donation, and then the rest is the taxpayers foot the bill. So it's like a good mix of shady influence of corporate allies of Trump and just, you know, good old fashioned, just, you know, corruption. The reflecting pool brought to you by Raytheon. So when you're reflecting on your life, you like to think about drones. Hey, we got really, the reflecting pool wasn't a problem. No, it was fine. I'm open to the possibility that they could use a ballroom, I don't think it would have been my priority, right? But the reflecting pool was just doing its thing. It was just sitting there. It's not the wrong color. It looks great. It's classic. I do think, listen, I've said this before, no offense to Steven Spielberg. I think that that world were two memorials. Oh yeah, you've, this is my position, but I think it was, I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want the final design. Trickle down ballroom, ultra-negga. No, he was part of the, because it was part of the post saving private Ryan, Tom. It was in the, it was part, he was helped raise money for it. He was kind of a big booster of it. I don't know exactly what his direct involved. He's not the designer of it, but he was a big face of getting it done. So the Democrat takes over. We're going to bulldoze the ballroom. Yeah. Bulldoze the World War II memorial. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want that. Listen, it stands. No, no, you are you damn. It stands. Is that where Jenny and Forrest Gump are united? Was that in the reflecting pool? Yes, it is. It is. Don't mess with that landmark. Look, the painting, the reflecting pool, kind of undoing that, that's an easy one. Also all the gold on the White House. That's coming off. That's easy. The writing on the outside of the oval, that's like cursive gold writing oval this way. It's cock-lips here. Why do you think this house needs a fucking name tag? We all, you, everyone knows what it is. That's the whole idea of it. It'd be funny if they did a big gold, like in this house, we believe, kind of like. The Mar-a-Lago, Abampang, Umbrella's, the Yellow Umbrella's, those are all going. Those drive me crazy. It just looks just like Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, that's the anyway. That's a silly color. It's a long list. Well, if suspending the gas tax doesn't work and the gusher of oil doesn't open, Trump does have one other. Please stop saying gusher. Gusher, gusher, gusher. Begging you. It's a snack. Gusher. It is a snack, yes, Tommy. Trump does have one other trick up his sleeve. President told Fox on Monday that he is, quote, seriously considering making Venezuela the 51st US state because there's, quote, $40 trillion in oil there and, quote, Venezuela loves Trump. Isn't this the MAGA fever dream? Isn't he president because Joe Biden led in too many people from Venezuela in prisons? Where is Stephen Miller on this one? I don't understand. I'm pretty sure. Every person in a Venezuelan prison would become an American. Right. He would actually make an unprecedented number of Venezuelan prisoners. Every person in the asylum, the worst people in Venezuela would all become Americans. It's a good question, but I wonder if, just to play this out, if this administration is even Miller would make sure that they are second class citizens who have to stay in Venezuela. We know how they treat the citizens of Puerto Rico. Donald and Maduro's advocate here. Well, they're not a member. They don't have state of down. This is the 51st state. Well, also, you need Congress. Exactly. It doesn't matter if you're considering it. Oh, you're considering it. So am I. I know that we don't care about international law or the UN anymore, but it's a flagrant violation of international law. The people of Venezuela would have to, of course, vote on this. Well, it'll be a flagrant violation of international law if the Venezuelans don't choose to do it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, presumably they'd have to have some sort of vote on it. That's what, yeah. Which would be lovely. That's quite a presumption. Also, boy, it creates a bunch of new interesting borders that presumably would also need walls for Mexico to pay for, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Also, he said that they love Trump, and I did look at some polling on this. It was in the Miami Herald actually a couple of weeks ago. They did a big poll in Venezuela. In January, 92% of Venezuelans said they felt grateful to Trump for capturing Maduro. That was like a couple days after the capture. And a few weeks ago, it's down to 47%. 89% of Venezuelans reject Trump's continued backing of Rodriguez, and 78% think the country's on the wrong track under her. So I guess. Honestly, him losing support for deposing Maduro that quickly, it's actually very American to me. It's like, wow, what have you done for me lately, bitch? I'm 100% sure that we've now officially thought about this longer and deeper than Donald Trump has, but certainly there's an easier way to just seal all their oil than to make it another state. That's the end game. By the way, are we doing that now already? The oil's not just like, it's like in the Amazon. It's like very hard to access actually. Real pain. I know. I was flirting with not talking about this at all, but we saw what happened with Greenland. NATO had exercises, military exercises in Greenland, so we got pretty close on that one. Rafael Lemkin just wanted to shout at us about international law over here. Like a mall cloney over there. 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That's 50% off your first order by using code crooked or going to cookunity.com slash crooked. All right, so Trump is staying on this subject. Trump's about to spend some quality time this week with fellow imperialist Xi Jinping when he takes his first trip to China since 2017. Naturally, Trump will be rolling a few billionaires deep. Elon Musk and Tim Cook are joining, among others, probably because of their diplomatic skills. Can we pause on that? Hey, Tim, you're resigning. You don't have to do this anymore, Tim Cook. You know what? I think Tim Cook just likes Donald Trump. I think he's in. I really do. I think anyone who thought Tim Cook was just like, I think Tim Cook's just a fan of Donald Trump. I figured he just liked fucking screens. No, fuck Tim Cook. He sucks. Wow. Hope your iPhone. All right, well. Hope your Apple Carats. Yeah. See you pride, Tim, I guess. Okay, anyway. So Tommy, an Asian diplomat in DC told Politico, they're worried that China might offer to help reopen the strait in exchange for American concessions on Taiwan, which I'm sure if Trump read that, it would be like, good idea. How big of a deal will that be? How concerned are you? I mean, first of all, I'm just skeptical that China could actually force Iran to reopen the strait and kind of go back to the before times, because if you're like, China buys 90% of Iran's oil, but still, if you're Iran, you're thinking, well, we get a couple million worth of Bitcoin out of every boat that goes by. We find a new buyer for that oil. Like, I don't know. I'm skeptical. I asked a China expert friend about this quote and his take was like, it would likely be more like, how can you expect me to help you with the Strait of Hormuz and not sell my Iranian friends any more weapons when you're selling weapons to the Taiwanese and giving them diplomatic cover? That could certainly happen. And Trump, I think, basically said today that Taiwan arms sales are up for negotiation, which is a huge deviation from traditional foreign policy, where that's just not a thing that is discussed with the Chinese. It's, you know, Congressional mandated loss. Which he signed, right? Yeah, this is an interesting thing. It's like, I've always assumed Trump could give a shit about Taiwan. He carries in so far as losing access to their semiconductors would be an economic calamity, right? And it would be a historic ego wound. Yeah, but like, he doesn't give a shit about freedom, democracy, human rights, religious freedom, cating communism, all the traditional things that once animated Republicans on this. So I assume he would trade away Taiwan in a heartbeat for a good trade deal. But even, but Xi Jinping, like he doesn't need Trump to be, to make some historic shift, even rhetorically. Like I think if he gets what he, if he hears what he wants to hear behind the scenes, that's more than enough. Like, yeah, you do what you gotta do. I'm not gonna go after you. I mean, so we'll see. Like all that said, the Trump administration has greenlit huge arms sales packages to Taiwan. Now the rub here is that those haven't been delivered yet. They're like 20 billion behind in the delivery of those weapons, but like people like Marco Rubio is making sure that the packages get authorized. So I don't know. And then they're gonna be talking about AI a lot as well. Apparently it seems like a good outcome on AI seems like it could be there's reports that they may open a channel of communication to make sure that like Cold War style with like nuclear weapons, like make sure there's no. Xi gives him a chep on. Yeah, this is me. I talk, I do. Like you want, I want. Those two going deep on AI. I have no shit. But I would like our country cooperating with China on making sure that we are keeping a line open on AI when it gets kind of scary. Yeah, I talked to Bernie about it. We'll lose it last week. Feels like time flies. But like there's obviously a space between like hamstringing whatever advantage we think we have and allowing just sort of unfettered development. Like there clearly would be some kind of, there's a way to have an agreement about some kind of limits to prevent sort of catastrophic outcomes with AI. And like that seems like exactly what we would want them to be working towards. And they said they were gonna talk about it. So I do think that's genuinely. I'm sure they'll end up. We're just not AI the nukes, the nuclear decision-making process. No AI on that. Yeah, they have both agreed so far to split that off. But there's a lot more. Lock that down. Plenty of other problems that could end the world. You know, bio weapons and the rest of it. All right, we haven't had a chance to talk about the shitty news we got on Friday about Virginia where the state Supreme Court overturned the referendum that voters just passed to create new congressional maps ahead of the midterms. Tommy and Dan covered the news when it broke on the PSA YouTube channel. I have to say we crushed it. Go subscribe. That's why you should go subscribe for free. Subscribe to Pots America on YouTube. Free. If you wanna see Dan looking spicy on a Friday. Okay. He does most of the YouTube's. He pops the top. Oh, he does. Topless YouTube that Friday? Yeah, for Friday. And then under the table camera, that's for the subscribers. For the subs. Talking about a polar coaster. You're a dom, you wanna be a sub. Nice. Anyways. Nobody put this in the comments on message box. That's the only way Dan'll know this happened. Every shivery be fucking cool. Fucking Narcs. Anyway, what was I gonna say? Oh yeah. There's been some more developments on the potential redistricting fallout in Virginia and other states ahead of the midterms. Here's Glass half empty. Nate Cohn, of course, calculated that Republicans could now lose the popular vote by more than two points and still keep control of the house. Then there's Glass half full. Jonathan Martin is out with the column arguing that Republicans still might lose many of the newly drawn districts, which by definition will be more competitive. Amy Walter at Cook Political basically said the same thing. I think you guys probably talked about that on Friday. I think she thinks that when all of a sudden done the realistic game is probably like five seats in a good scenario. They could net like 11 or 12, but probably won't let's take. And that's because of the Democrats still winning those tough districts, not because they would still get to redraw them. And Jay Mard argues that they're handing Democrats a generational opportunity to mobilize outraged black voters case in point. Republican representative Ralph Norman said on Monday about the state's lone Democratic Congressman, Jim Clyburn, who's one of the longest serving black members in the house, quote, I like him personally, but he does not represent the rest of South Carolina. Well, that's, you know, that is part of the point of representing one district in a state as you represent some people in the state and not all the people in the state. How are you guys processing the news generally? And specifically on the question of whether this is all as bad as people think. And on that point, some breaking news, while we were recording this, the US Supreme Court did rule, they lifted the injunction on Alabama that they had in place before, now allowing them to pursue their new maps. She was dickheads. They voted forward their new, you know, map proposal in the middle of a tornado warning. They just kept going. They're supposed to evacuate. They're like, no, no, no, no, stripping away black people's voting rights is more important to us. So what do you guys think? How bad? So seeing a couple of different numbers, but basically even with these new maps, if we have, you know, if we went by, let's say 4%, right nationally, the house, the house margin is 4%, then we still win the house. I get- That's an important one just to- Yeah. Just put an exclamation point on that because that was if Louisiana, Alabama and South Carolina all go, which now seems like we are definitely headed toward that scenario. And they say, if we won the popular vote by four in that scenario, Democrats still win the house. Right. And so I'm all for doing like a round of worry and recrimination, but I would say that in this political environment, the deeper problem would be not having confidence that against a president with this approval rating with both kind of on the politics and on the policy has been as bad a president as you could ever imagine, as destructive a force as you can ever imagine, enabled directly by Republicans who deserve to be held responsible for this president's misadventures. We ought to be able to beat that 4%. We should focus on that because if we do that, then not only do we overcome their advantages in the gerrymandering, we can win those Virginia seats that that on the old map, and we can actually prove that some of their maps were drawn to aggressively and make them more nervous the next time they look at doing this to try to redraw the maps because the Republican incumbents will start to think, oh, if there's even a slight wave, I could lose my seat. Yeah. I mean, Democrats won the house popular vote by eight in 2018. So if we're thinking and hoping and expecting this cycle to be better than even 2018, then we should have no problem in the house. And look, if we're not winning by eight, if we're only winning by four, then something else went wrong. Exactly. More than redistricting. If we're, if, if, if, if, like you said, if after all this Democrats went by four or five or six in this kind of year, and so we're too worse than we did in 2018. Maybe they like the ballroom. Maybe they like the ballroom. Maybe they like the ballroom. Maybe they like $5 gas. Yeah. And maybe people were like upset they had so much money left over after they filled up their tank. Yeah, people hate it. They hate having other options with what to do with the money. But yeah, and I would also say if this does galvanize people and we are able to win the house, suddenly you have people showing up in the Senate races that might not have otherwise. And it's sort of, you know, Republicans can be hoisted by their own patards. Yeah. Nate Cohen points out the challenge is the, the median district, house district now in the country will have voted for Trump by five and a half points. Sweet. So that means to win back the majority, you're winning a lot of, not all, but you have to win some significant amount of seats that, you know, Trump won by five, five and a half points. Look, it's a- Which we've already been doing in every- Yeah, right. In these races, right? Yeah, the swings from 24 to these specials have been like on average, I think 13 points. These are base elections. Democrats are already more motivated. Hopefully they will all learn about this, be angry about it, be even more motivated to turn out. And the good thing about Trump is he just, things are as bad as they've ever been for him politically. And he's like, give me a shovel. I'm not done digging billion dollar ballroom, 1.5 trillion dollar Pentagon budget. Let me drive my stupid car on a fountain for some reason. He's just like wasting his time on stupid shit. And look, the bigger long-term problem here that will outlast Trump is the concentrated power of the state legislatures in red states, which they have because they have gerrymandered their state legislative districts in such a crazy fashion. And in many cases, like in North Carolina, know that if the full state elects a Democrat as governor, which happens in places like North Carolina, Wisconsin, then the state legislature, which never has to worry about competitive elections or Republicans losing, just takes all the power away from the government. So like, it's simple, whatever Project 2029, whatever long-term thing we're doing, like we have to figure out a way to win back power in some of these state legislatures in some of these southern states and other heavily Republican states that have gerrymandered themselves on a state level, forget about the federal level, into such a place. And we know from the Constitution, right, that it endows state legislatures with a lot of power when it comes with elections. Certain and uneligible rights, like life. Like that, yeah. But that is, you know. That's the version of things. And on that note, if Democrats do control Virginia, I don't know if you guys saw the mini news cycle about Virginia Democrats considering whether to... It was a mini news cycle. Mini, yeah, it's over. It's like a mini war. We talked about this morning, it's already over. Anyway, they were considering whether to change the retirement age for state Supreme Court justices. So to bring it down in order to get rid of all the state Supreme Court justices on the Virginia Supreme Court and appoint new ones in time to change the maps and then have the new democratically appointed, Democratic Party appointed state Supreme Court justices approve the new maps and in time for the midterms. First of all. First they'd have to get a bunch of new, replace those justices because they'd been retired by the government at the age of, I think in decrepit 54. 54. I mean, first of all, shout out for create, points for creativity. Points for creativity. Local news outlet in Virginia floated this idea and all of a sudden we're talking about it. Real dog, nothing says a golden retriever, can't be speaker of the house situation. It is without a doubt, undemocratic, terrible precedent. The kind of thing the voters absolutely despise in this climate, absolutely would do it. 100% appropriate. The governor of Louisiana is just talking about on TV how he's like throwing out ballots and he's like, it's not my fault, it's Supreme Court's fault. It's like you did cancel an election. Do we really think Abigail Spanberger, Governor Spanberger would have wanted to, kind of hemorrhage all the political capital she'd built up with independent Republican voters doing this early on? I doubt it. I bet she has other things she wants to do. Did you see Greg Sargent's piece in the new Republican? That's when the reason they're not doing it. So May 12th, which is the day you're listening to this, that is the deadline set by the Department of Elections for having congressional maps in the system in time for early voting in June ahead of the August primary. So they couldn't pass the law to lower the retirement age to get rid of all the judges to appoint all the new judges to retrain the maps to send it back to court. Because the technology was, yes. Because the technology is so old it takes a lot of time to input new districts into the computers. I don't know what that meant. The computers. And we lose, fuck it. We lose the house. Are we putting the maps, are we like feeding it? Like it's a fax machine. Yeah, is it punch cards? Like I don't know what we're doing. Like how big, is it a room? Does it overheat? Like I don't understand. Can you get a clod? But the idea that we could potentially lose the house because the computers. Clod, can you help in Virginia? The computers. If called upon. The Virginia government's computers are too slow to be a democracy. That's where the potential. Did Greg Sargent just call an old person by accident like a Luddite who doesn't know? I think it was like the guy that runs the state senate. Oh, that's a good one. He was the one that was saying the deadline. Yeah, I think, no, no. He got a real guy on the phone. I don't think Greg Sargent got caught by like, I don't even, he was talking to a real person. But that guy was like, hey, listen. It was croc. Yeah, love the idea. It was croc. Love the idea. It's croc. Love your idea. Yeah, I mean, look, my take on it was okay. Greg's drawing bikinis from all the state legislatures in Virginia. On all the districts. All the districts have just magnificent yavos. The, look at these cannons. Look at these shit cannons. Okay, it's just so, Virginia state senate majority leader Scott Surveyor. Yeah, I just made it with the old and doesn't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's fair, but I just want to, I refuse to shut up and find out. I'm calling him the Jim Comey of fucking Virginia. No, I don't, I don't think that's fair. No, look, the thing about it is. 86 that I did. The guy, he's the one who picked up the phone. I called him. Yeah, never, never make that much damage. Could have been Spanburger. She didn't pick up the phone. Yeah, well, smart. Yeah, no. That's why she's governor. Yeah, I'm not taking that fucking call. Oh, the craze. I will get rid of all the just judges because the democracy. To save democracy, I've gotten rid of all the judges. They're worse than us. Everybody get behind me or go away. Come on. Gavin Newsom's breathing down her neck. Yeah, Gavin Newsom. We could have had, we could have all Democratic. He's like, I put him on a raft and send him off to fucking Hawaii. That fucking institutional fucking fag. We could have had all Democratic districts, all Democratic districts. What kind of coward was he? Yeah, why is Gavin Newsom such a coward? Put that out there. No, but the. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. Governor. If you told me right now that we, there's no time issue. We don't know what the future holds. We can still win the house. We should fight the win the house. Yes, this made it harder. But the idea that, if we knew with certainty that our only path to having some check on Trump was doing this. Was updating machines. Was updating the machines. Was the software. Was buying a new laptop. Was Tim Cook software update. Updating the fucking, updating. He's not gonna give me now. Updating to Sierra 15.2 so we can upload the map. So the new judges that are young and vital, just the 32 year old new Democratic judges could approve the map. I'd be like, okay, I get it. Maybe it's worth the risk for it. Second year lay-outs. But everything can get worse. And look, I believe Republicans are leading us down all these escalatory paths all along the way, every step of the way. But this would be a new one and it would be on us. Yeah, big deal. Here's where I'm gonna be upset about. They're expanding courts. They're expanding courts. They're being arrested. Here's where I'm gonna be upset about Democrats. It is clear that any state where Democrats have control either of the governorship or the governorship and ideally the state legislature, if we do not act to maximize the number of seats that we win between now and 28. Because this cycle has clearly already passed us by. Which Virginia will have a chance to do. Right, which Virginia will have to do. If you decide to take a pass on that, yeah, then you're fucked. But I expect New York, Virginia, and Colorado better get in the act. Minnesota can, I believe, Wisconsin can, Maryland, I think can squeeze out another one at Illinois. But J.B. Pritzker probably won't be bulldozing the courthouses, you know? I'm guessing that's not gonna be a problem for him. The problem is the Virginia State Constitution, Commonwealth, that gives the legislature, the authority to appoint the judges and gives them certain terms so that you get a bunch of Republican, I mean, it's actually probably a fair for democracy. No, actually, I would believe. It'd be great for the country, but. They can expand from seven to 11 seats. It's as you need actually like a big, a super majority in the legislature, I think to prevent this exact scenario. Sounds like a good model for America, actually. Yeah, yeah, one more thing. But again, we have to do things as a country. Yeah, and. And not as individual states, which is why you need to eliminate gerrymandering as a country. Back in this quarter, what? Can you just make it a simple? The US Constitution does not require any specifics on expanding the number of justice on the Supreme Court, and that is just a custom. And now, have we ever, did the Biden administration ever finish that report? Whether we should do it again. Where were we on that? Good poll. Hey, where were we on that report? Yeah, you know. I think they did put it on. It's on Merrick Garland's to-do list. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Pods of America is brought to you by HIMS. ED is way more common than most guys think. 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There was one response in particular she gave to the age old question of whether she's planning on running for president or Senate in 2028. We should talk about in which she answered by pivoting to a Washington Post editorial last week going after her for saying that it's impossible to become a billionaire without breaking rules and abusing workers or paying them not what they're worth. Take a listen. It was very clear this was a veiled threat, right? So the elite saying, if you want this job, you just stepped out of line. They assume that my ambition is positional. They assume that my ambition is a title or a seat. And my ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, Senate, house seats, elected officials come and go, but single payer health care's forever. A living wage is forever, work is right for forever, women's rights, all of that. Which this president would come and go a little faster. What'd you guys think? I thought it was, in terms of non-answers to questions about are you gonna run for president? That's one of the better ones. They went to the crowd to a guy named Shuck Chumer who was like, Angela, question. Yeah, we've all heard a million politicians duck that question and usually it's some version of like, I'm not thinking about that right now. My priorities are on the state of Virginia, my calendar. It's like, she made it bigger. She made it about what she wanted to do, the people she wanted to help. I thought that was nice, it was well done. Now, the nitpicking response that we kind of hinted at is legislative accomplishments are more durable, but they're not forever. The Supreme Court overturned Roe versus Wade, but I think that's a little too literal. We all know the police who's trying to make sure. I feel like we would have written the line forever and then the policy nerds or the lawyers would have been more durable, more accurate. Which is correct, it would have been more accurate to say that. Almost forever. ACS still hanging on. Nearly forever, yeah, by the skin of its teeth. That's right. I did think it was completely wild to have a Washington Post editorial, not a column, but an entire editorial from the Ed Board, owned by Jeff Bezos, being like, hey, stop picking on billionaires. It's so funny. Well, he's like, I'm gonna redo the editorial board so that it focuses on free markets and not attacking success. It's like, promises made promises kept, I guess. I don't know what that editorial board would do, yeah. I watched the whole thing though. I'd never heard her talk about the specific experience of going from candidate to overnight celebrity. That was a really interesting story. Yeah, that's it. And how just like head spinning and insane that was. And then the part about why, did you hear the story about why she didn't go to med school? Like her dad got sick, passed away actually, and her mom started working on these jobs. I mean, it's not just like the bartending story that makes her feel like more of a human being than any other politician. It's the very recent past in economic hardship. I don't know, it's just a very compelling event. It was worth watching the full hour, I think. Yeah, I will say that the whole conversation about should billionaires exist to me is not the most productive use of time on either side of the debate, because it's like, here's the thing about billionaires. I just wanna make sure that they are taxed appropriately. I wanna make sure that they can't use their influence and power to change the laws and have a bigger megaphone than everyone else in the country, just because they're rich. But like, it seems like an academic dorm room debate to be like, should they exist, should they not exist? If they exist, does that mean that they broke the law or not broke the law? Like, I don't know why we need to be debating that. So, first place. I feel like it's, I was thinking about, there was something about the online debate that was very frustrating to me, because there's a lot of people talking past one another. There's a few aspects of the online debate that we can get into, but we'll start with the billionaires one. And I was trying to figure out what was bugging me about it, and it is, I think, because you end up in this conversation in which the terms are moral and fuzzy, terms like earned, legitimate, deserved, it's moral language. And I actually think the debate over the kind of morality of who can amass fast sums of wealth and how they do it is not like, I don't think it's, I think it's more than academic. I think the way we have it is academic, but what was interesting to me is the response. Like, it is absurd that Jeff Bezos's paper is writing a defensive of billionaires. And what was interesting about the defense is they always land on celebrities like Taylor Swift and Seinfeld and people like. Likeable people. And people that, like, nobody had to pee in a bottle for Taylor Swift to write the music, right? Like nobody had to sew sneakers with their little hands, right? So like they. You see that documentary about the Aries store? How many children were working those gears? It seems like she had to pee in a few bottles. Maybe she did. Maybe she did. And they pissed themselves a couple times. Yeah. Is that girl? But then, so it's like, oh, because they really earned it. And what the kind of underlying defense of it is like, well, Taylor Swift, by dint of talent without exploitation, created more than a billion dollars worth of value. And like, I think I largely agree with that, but where I kind of, what they are talking past the deeper argument, which is a system in which one person can accrue all that wealth. Like even Taylor Swift, like she's protected by intellectual property laws. She's been able to take her vehicles on the roads and all the rest. And it's not about like the righteousness or the morality to me. That's just not what I care about. I think it matters a lot in politics. It's like a system in which those benefits accrue so much is both wrong on the front end and the back end, the incentive structure and power structure of the economy, and then the tax structure on the back end. And so whether billionaires should or should not exist, if a lot of them do, it is because this something is fundamentally broken in the system and they have the ability to exploit that wealth that has kind of also wrecked our politics. And like that to me is what makes it worth having. Yeah, and for me, that brings us to like, all right, so what are the policy considerations here? What are we going to, what rules and laws are we going to put into place to make sure that the system is more fair? How do we tax wealth? How do we tax wealth? And it goes into regulations and lobbying it and all the corruption stuff as well, right? There's all that. But, and I also think, I think about Ruben Gallego and what he would always say after the 2024 election is that Democrats with Latino voters failed the big ass truck test and that people in this country want to be rich. Working class people want to be rich. And do they all want to be billionaires? Do they think they can be billionaires? No, but they want to be wealthy. And what they just want is to like have a fair playing field. Whatever you want to call it, whatever cliche you want to bring out, but like people want to make a lot of money. And they also want to make sure that people who are absurdly rich like pay their fair share in taxes and don't have more power and influence than everyone else. Yeah, but I think like Democrats end up focusing on the tax side of it and not as much on like the deeper kind of like structures that mean individuals, like whether they have a union or not, whether they have other protections, like let's say non-competes and things like that, all of which like kind of mean as, and as like more like all the productivity gains are sort of going up to the top, which means the individual has less negotiating and bargaining power than they used to and their dollar doesn't go as far because of all of our failures across like housing and all the rest. And to me like those are the questions that I think Democrats struggle the most to answer. We have the least compelling answer on like upriver from the taxes. One last thing we have to talk about. Gas prices may be 450 a gallon, but transportation secretary and road rules, all-stars veteran, Sean Duffy really wants you to get out and take a road trip. So much so that he and his wife and nine children have been apparently doing their own road trip over the last several months, which they've documented in a Gazi documentary series premiering soon on YouTube. Duffy's wife, Fox News host and fellow real world and road rules star, Rachel Campos Duffy. That's where they met. Describe the project as really wholesome, good family stuff that's an antidote to the quote, porn hub world we're living in. The fuck kind of road trip to Chigo? Well, she was on real world, can never say real world road rules challenge. Yeah, it's a hard, yeah anyway. Here's a clip. What a beautiful family. Hi, it's just a happy Mr. President, just out of the president Trump. We're inviting you along with our family on the great American road trip. The Duffins, they've got tons of kids. I think they have like 11 kids. Nine. Nine, 11, something. Is there a difference? Before Kid Rock became Kid Rock, you're traveling all the country year. Oh yeah. Basically an arrow star van. Dad's real world house. If I never lived in this house, none of you would be here. Was that? That looks so boring. Was that antidote to porn hub or no? Why me and shit? You got a lot of kids. So, some's working. All right. That's so many. First of all, you can't road trip with nine kids. What are we driving? Is it a school bus? Cause that looked like a little car. So we're just leaving them behind. It's a lot of kids. Also bullshit that they're really driving around the country. They're flying places and then driving around and filming it, right? We assume. You think the moon landing was fake? No. You might be wondering who paid for this massive boondoggle. 501C4 called the Great American Road Trip, Inc. Which says it fully funds its own efforts to celebrate and share America's story. And whose sponsors happen to be industries with a business in front of the Department of Transportation. So that's helpful. And the department later confirmed that taxpayer dollars paid for the secretary's travel to a bunch of the stops, but not his family's. And the whole thing is official business anyway because he's the transportation secretary and he was doing some transportation there I guess. I mean, your job is driving. Dude, remember when the planes were all crashing and Sean Duffy was the guy who was gonna fix it? Well, I just watched the guy get hit on the runway in Denver the other day. I don't know, maybe you don't road trip around so much. Look, you know, first of all, this would bug me less if they didn't have a bunch of sponsors who have business in front of the Department of Transportation, that's why. And if they were Democrats, right, John? Well, no, I was gonna say. I was actually gonna say. Classic. You know who wouldn't stop talking about Pete Buttigieg and criticizing Pete and Chaston? Rachel Campos Duffy. Rachel Campos Duffy when they spent two months when Pete took two months paternity leave because the twins were in the NICU. Yeah, they were. And she criticized him for that. And so it's like, okay, and now you're gonna go do this. It's crazy to film a seven month reality show. What are we doing? They said that he like popped in for a day here and a day there, but it's like whatever. If he wants to do it on his days off, none of these people are fucking doing a good job anyway in the cabinet. It's all a grift. I would say that he's one guy, not my Sean. Yeah, he's one guy where it's like, dude, you got like real legitimate ongoing like management problems at your department. And if Butt Rocket Duffy can't fix it, who can? You know, that's what his NIC game was in the real world. Butt Rocket. Why was it that? Because he would run around the house streaking and mooting people. There's the rocket. I remember he did a front moon, I think too. Not a window in one of the episodes. Butt Rocket. Also on the show Cyrus. Speaking of Pornham. Rachel Campos. Rachel was, yeah. Lawson's a pretty good series. There's so much reality. I don't begrudge him his youth. I don't either. There's too much reality TV. Butt Rocket's a great name. Butt Rocket, sure. Trump, Sean Duffy, Spencer Pratt torturing us in the mayoral race here. Like all these annoying reality people just popping back up and ruining the 2026. Sean Duffy, I defended you as one of the lesser offenses in terms of actual cabinet performance so far. And that remains the case because the bar is so low. But this is tough. Also, as a rule, if someone's producing their own reality show, it's just more boring. That's just how it goes. The only reality show is like, oh, it's wholesome. What, do you think that's why people are gonna bravo con? No, they wanna watch these bitches throw shit. And get into your... He was also a lumberjack. Yeah. We're gonna chop some wood. That part of the Pornham thing. He was a lumberjack? Oh yeah. Wow, I didn't know that. That was a part of the real world Boston thing. Yeah, that's right. That was his shtick. That in But Rockit. I don't remember But Rockit. I'll send you the video. I was gonna have episodes. I thought that was an old joke that was gonna be like, I've said it too many times. Also, flagging that he was briefly NASA administrator, you guys remember that? Yeah. You wanted to keep your job and speak. Get some other Rockits up there. He's got the expertise. He has a history of he's worked with all kinds of Rockits. Anyway, is that it? That's it. That's our show for today, everyone. Yeah, it is our show. It was a good one. Wasn't it? It was a gusher of a show. Dan and I are gonna be back with a new show on Friday. So when I check that out. I think we're starting. This is a new ending. This is a new end segment of Potsdamerica. I wanna apologize for calling Gavin Newsom a woke f***. I wanna apologize for suggesting that removing the gas tax would cause Chuck Schumer to come. I regret saying that or applying it. Now I regret saying it. It was ass Rockit, sorry. Oh, well. Same thing, I was just being family friendly. Still pick up. Uh-huh. Took us Rockit. Unlike me. Took us Rockit. Yeah. Real Rump Rockit. That's something different. Speaking of Tim Cook going to China. What? Oh, f***. End the show. We're out. Credits. Potsdamerica is a crooked media production. Our show is produced by Austin Fisher, Saul Rubin, McKenna Roberts and Ferris Safari with Ray Cherlin, Elijah Cone and Adrian Hill. Our team includes Matt DeGroote, Ben Hefko, Jordan Cantor, Charlotte Landis, Carol Pelleve, David Tolles, Mia Kellman, Ryan Young and Naomi Single. Our staff is probably unionized with the Writers Guild of America East.