Augusta Conspiracies + Tim Miller On Trump’s Presidency | April 9, 2026

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We talked about a lot of stuff. But before that, we got it's Masters Week, which is pretty incredible. I woke up this morning just hearing the, hey Arian, welcome back dog. Been a while. Yeah, you kind of brushed that under your rug. Where you been at, fam? I mean, I woke up this morning hearing the acoustic guitar of the Masters, the piano. Hope your day's going well. Hello, friends. What you been doing in apps, is fam? We talked to you last week. Not really though. First time I see my Macrodosians like in a studio live, whatever. Not a big deal. We did have you on the show last week to talk about the golf tournament. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But it is good to have you back. I've also been gone quite a bit. So like we've been kind of ships in the night. But yeah, good to have you back here. Are we here? Are we here? Is everyone here for the next like three weeks? Yeah. I might have a bachelor party that I have to go on. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's right. Interesting. Yeah. It's going to be quite a bachelor party. Oh. Yeah, we're going to Vegas. Same time as yours, right? Yeah. Yeah. Funny how that works. When you go to Vegas? A couple weeks last weekend. Oh, I'm going next weekend. Okay. Are you not going to big T's either, Arian? When is it? Well, once PFT backed out, I was, I don't want Arian, you know, to feel like he doesn't have any friends there and whatever. I just didn't. I just didn't bring it up again. I know. Where's the bachelor party big T? Denver. What are you doing there? Braves are in town. She's just going to watch the Braves? Yeah. Watch the Braves. Go play some golf. Oh, okay. Yeah. Nice. I like that trip. That's a good trip. Yeah. We got a lot to talk about today. I want to talk about the Masters because like it is, once you reach a certain age, I feel like this whole week is all you, that's all you think about. Like the second at the college basketball tournament's over, like I am full on Masters. Masters mode. I'm excited. I can't wait to see like the, you know, the sights and sounds of Augusta. This the only like, we're going to talk politics with Tim Miller in a little bit, but like this is the only conservative belief I have. Probably. The Masters needs to just stay like this forever. Like I don't want to know. I want to, I want it to never change that exclusivity, the, the, the prestigious of this kind of state of saying in every aspect of golf, I'm like, you got to evolve. Like, but the Masters, just something about this is just, I'm very submissive to the idea of this. That's kind of wild actually that I just said that I love, but submissive to the idea of this tournament keeping its perspective. You know, online right now, there's a lot of people that are upset about the merch. They're saying the merch is getting too, too out there. Like they've grown the game too much. Yeah. Like the hats that say like Pimento and stuff on there. They say it's the co-vidification of golf. I mean, I'm all for keeping the Masters this own little like, you know how like all the YouTubers, they'll do like events or little videos at those places and the Masters like, no, get the fuck out of here. I love that shit though. I don't hope they never change for that shit. I love that shit. I don't think they will. So I think you're in, you're in a good spot. I kind of like it too. Jerry, what do you think about the co-vidification of golf? You're big like COVID change everything guys. COVID did change everything. Honestly, it really did. My thing is, I know we're going to get to the Masters and whatnot, but I think it actually should be a holiday, like a national holiday, one of the days, maybe Thursday or Friday. Friday at Augusta. Yeah. Just like Thursday to start off. I think it should be a holiday. There's got to be one holiday that we get off for that we shouldn't be getting off for. It should be the Masters. But would you rather not have that BNCAA tournament? Yeah, I think it's a Super Bowl. And it's not even because it's a sport. I think it's just more of a, it's more baked into the tradition of America. Like it's Super Bowl Sunday and then that Monday holiday all. Yeah, I can see that. I like that too. I think if you got Thursday off, people aren't doing shit at work on Friday. You'd have to give them Friday. Yeah, that's fair. It should be at two days. I mean, I mean. No, but that's why you do the Thursday because then everybody's like, well, Friday, nobody's gonna just, just don't even come in. Friday is a big waste, waste time at work. Yeah. So then everybody will just put, just don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. I also agree with the area and that it's nice. They do things differently at Augusta and they kind of don't give a fuck and it works out that they make more money by not giving a fuck because they don't have a TV rights deal. They do it year by year. So they're on a one year deal every year with CBS and the SPN and most golf tournaments do like what, 20, 25 minutes of commercials per hour. And Augusta does like four. And they're like, yeah, IBM, you can be a sponsor. You'll get your logo on the app. You'll have like the long form content. You'll get to do little documentaries about us moving a tree or some bullshit and you're gonna be happy with it. And then for some reason that makes sense and so exclusive, it makes them want to spend more money. Exactly. So they can charge a premium on it and it just works. There's just, there's a few companies out there that, god damn it, they just work like Chick-fil-A, they just work. Well, Augusta, it just works. We've seen it before. It's the Beanie Babies of golf. They just, they're in a unique position of creating their own supply and demand. Not an interest. I don't know that anyone's ever made that comparison before. You got any Beanie Babies, Harry? No, but I remember when it was hot in the streets. You can go for a lot of money right now. Do you guys have some? If, yeah, if, if there's a big demand for something and you cut off the supply, that creates a bigger demand for it. This is basic economics. And so the masters knows it's not going anywhere. It's one of the majors. Every major can probably do this, but this one's unique because it's at one spot. The other majors move around except for the open, right? Open moves around. Similar to like crack in the 80s. It does. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of just like the same situation. Let's unpack that a little bit. Like crack in the 80s, like there wasn't a big supply and then people started trying it and doing it. And then all of a sudden it was a drought. And then they just had millions and millions and millions of fucking pounds of cocaine flood the streets of New York, Chicago. And that's like the demand for it was there. Yeah. So you're saying like the masters could, there could be a masters every weekend. Correct. And then people would like, how many masters would be too much for you, for you personally to stop watching in a year, in a year. Yeah. Over 20. I'll tell you, I'll tell you the 2021 masters didn't hit the same coming like five months after the other one. No, it didn't. Well, so Jerry, they could do more. The thing about the masters is like they, their calendar is laser focused on this week. So like when it comes to the azalea trees and like everything being in bloom, they will fuck around with mother nature. And if the azaleas are starting to bloom, like maybe it's been a warm spring, they might be blooming like two weeks early, they'll get a bunch of ice packs and they'll go out there and they'll put a bunch of ice packs down on the bushes to make them think that it's colder. So they won't bloom yet. Yeah. Because they time it out to work. So the fucking flowers operate on masters time. They know that they don't come out until the term. This stuff gets pretty deep. Yeah. Because they've got like a huge budget. The people that are members there, all they, they have enough money where they won't miss like a couple of million dollars. Yeah. So they can charge a premium for membership there. How much is a membership there? I don't think we know. It's not that much from what I heard. It's, they don't get that much. You just can't get it. Yeah. How many members are there? That I don't know. But I heard it's like, and I could be totally wrong, but this is what I heard from people that know people that know people. It's like 50, 40, 50 grand. It's not that much. Approximately 300 members at any given time. Shit, that's not much my course. I mean, it says, it says initiation fees are between 250 to 500 grand. So I think could be. Yeah. So when it comes to Augusta, it's like, number one, the property is worth so much money that the club can take out a line of credit and just have however much money they need. Unlimited. But I think it's more about like, they don't need a massive amount of cash coming in from their membership. They, if you're getting an invitation to join, you've already passed the background check. They know that you're rich as fuck. Yeah. You're like in the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1%. They keep it so secretly guarded. They never say like how many people are members. They never say who's a member and who's not. The Wall Street Journal tried to do a report on it a few years ago where they tried to do a freedom of information act thing and they got in touch with the local airport because the FAA, the federal aviation administration, they have to keep track of all the planes coming in and out of all these airports. So they hit up the FAA to get information about whose planes were landing and traveling back and forth to Augusta National Country Club. And somehow the lawyers for the city of Augusta found out about it and they got all the names redacted. Wow. Yeah. So we don't even know like who's, we know that like Condoleezza Rice is a member there because I think she was the first woman to join. Really? And we see certain people walking around wearing coats and you're like, oh, that's, there's a member of Augusta. And then obviously if you, if you win the Masters, then you have a membership for life. But yeah, we don't know, we don't know who all is a membership, who all is a member there. I did see yesterday, they said that Trump won't be a member. Yeah, I could see that. But that was butchharmon that said that. I don't think that was anybody with any voting power at Augusta. I feel like they got somebody there that's running the country. At Augusta, it's all, yeah. That's the shadow government? Exactly, yeah. They probably have meetings there. Yeah. The shadow government. I would like to know what the most important piece of business that was ever done at Augusta National was. I bet you'd be shocked at how high up it is. They decided who was going to be the next president at Augusta. Well, Bill Gates is a member there. Wow. Was Epstein ever a member there? I don't think so. I feel like Epstein was a little, like there's a lot of reasons why Epstein would not be, I would say he was a little tacky. Yeah. I mean, guys like Epstein flaunt their wealth a little bit. Man's called Epstein tacky. I'm saying from the Augusta national perspective, that's what they would say. I just said that's a wild description of Jeffrey. I don't know what I'd have heard that one. He flies in on his private jet and they're like, hmm, the plane's a tad gauche, isn't it, Jeffrey? I'm not sure you're Augusta material, Jeffrey. So the IBM executives are probably all members. So you have that sector of the world. We know Bill Gates is. I would guess there are some government people or people who have at least worked in the government that are members. Yeah, but I think they try to steer away from polarizing people as much as possible. I agree. They want like the classy. I got one from my world that's dope. I mean, the greatest name of all time in NFL football history, but Lynn Swan. Wow. He's dealer. He's a member of Augusta. Wow. There's a certain type of person that like you, you could just see even if they're not a golfer, you're like, that guy is Augusta material. I think Peyton is a member. Peyton Manning definitely. He is. Oh, sounds like they got thousands of members. You guys are just routing off names. Name like 10. I've got I've got one. I would put like 500 bucks on Larry Fitzgerald. I could see that. He seems like Augusta national. I'm not saying he's a humble guy. I just don't know that he is. I love Fitz, by the way. That's a great, great dude. Gadel is a member. I hope he's not. No, that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing this. Now this is the AI summary that I'm looking at. But yeah, it's saying Gadel is a member there. I'm hating. But yeah, they limit the advertising that they can do there. They charge a premium for it. They probably have the number one like wealth demographic that tunes in to watch the content they put out. Like the average wealth of a master's viewer is probably like way higher than the average wealth of like a Super Bowl viewer for sure. Or the average wealth of like like Major League Baseball daytime viewer. Rex Tillerson, former Secretary of State is a member. Okay. So you have that. I'll bring it to you. Some business has gone down at Augusta National Rex Tillerson is was very nasty to our president. I don't remember much of his tenure. Nasty nasty man said some very, very mean stuff about her leader. He was the Secretary of State, though. Sam Nunn, former Georgia US Senator Dwight Eisenhower. I had some new information a couple of days ago about Augusta. Okay. Apparently dude perfect film there years and years ago. That's pretty crazy. They didn't even play golf. They were like kicking stuff on the ground and shit. Disrespectful to the course. Yeah. They did. Did they do a video with Bryson there? I'm not positive on who the video was with. I just found this out the other day. They brought like kickballs and tennis rackets. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I heard. Yeah. Giant Nerf bats. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. That seems like some of that Augusta would never. Is that video out there to get scrapped? I'm looking at it. Yeah. It did. They're throwing Nerf footballs and how was this allowed? You have to imagine that. When was that? They're at Amen Corner throwing Frisbees. When was that? Wait, how did that happen? This was uploaded four years ago. My guess is somebody might have gotten fired for allowing this. I remember when it happened just from my small experience. I know exactly how. Yeah. Bryson DeChambeau can clearly get on whenever he wants to go practice for the Masters and he invited these guys on. To film this, they had to have clearance from Augusta Nationals not letting you film you kicking volleyball out there. They had top clearance. Yeah. I don't know. Which I can't fathom how that happened. I couldn't believe it. I was like, you're lying. Big T's right. Big T's right. They had to have clearance and the clearance probably went up like three levels. If they went out there with a bucket of kickballs and hockey sticks and they weren't supposed to do that, you would have never heard from these guys again. My guess is that Dude Perfect has a massive audience under the age of 15. 12. Yeah. Big time child viewer audience. I bet that somebody at Augusta has a son or daughter that is huge fans of Dude Perfect. You're like obsessed, right? Obsessed with Dude Perfect. Yeah, obsessed. And so they wanted to be a cool dad. Yeah. So they're like, look, we got Dude Perfect out here. Yeah. We're like, we're gonna work with Daddy and watch Dude Perfect. It's probably like, we've dealt with similar things like that with PMT, obviously not with like that young demographic, but like we've got a ton of interviews because like a head coaches like 21 year old son is a big fan of Arsenal sports. And so they like want to, they know that their son loves it. So that's how they first discover us and then they want to be cool. So like, oh, my kid will think I'm really cool if I talk to these guys. Yeah. And it works out for everybody usually. That's what this seems like to me with Dude Perfect. But I mean, look at you know, you know, so I looked at, I looked at how it happened. And the short answer was Augusta reached out to them. Wow. And they said that they, it was through a third party and Augusta National Chairman, Fred Riley, they learned about Dude Perfect. They had like a trick shot content, I guess. 57 million YouTube subscribers. Yeah. 62 now. Damn. So they were originally like trying to reach out to a younger audience. And so they got green lit for doing that. And so yeah, it was on the behalf of Augusta trying to stay. That's how to do fellow kid. That's crazy that Augusta reached out to Dude Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. And they've never done anything else like that. No. Before or since. I don't think they will. Like imagine doing, they do Frank walks the entire course. Actually, I would watch that. Yeah. I'd watch Frank walk all 18 holes. I would watch like, you know, I'm a, I'm a casual golf viewer when the Masters is on for the four days I'm checking in and out. If they would play just like regular people at Augusta, just like dudes that are a 17 handicap, I'd watch every single shot. Yeah. I'm more interested in, in the like watching other people at Augusta than like professional golfers. Yeah. That's what it really is. Like see, see regular people. Cause when professionals are playing it, a lot of times we're like, Oh, that fear was huge. Right. But then if you get a guy like me out there, I'd probably shoot my guess. I'd probably shoot 110 at Augusta. Oh, way more than that. Are you way more than that, Eric? With all due respect. Yeah. I would place every dollar to my name that you could not shoot 100. You don't think I could shoot 110 at Augusta? We would shoot like 150. 210 maybe. No. Are we talking about from the tips? It doesn't matter. Wherever you want. The greens are insane. I probably just exposed myself. I doubt that Augusta has like a wide variety of T options. You would. I don't think they've got like the four different colors out there. You would four putt every single whole minimum. The greens would be tough, but I'm used to four putting most holes. I don't know. I feel like I saw a video. Let's try it. Let's try it. Yeah. Hey, I heard that you guys reached out to do perfect. We're great friends of theirs. We run a lot of the same online spaces. Jerry also had a very successful show that he produced for children. Yeah. We'd love to get out there at Augusta National, see what the course had to offer. The line's been set 110 over under. I think I could break 110 there. Are you out of your mind? I saw a video with a bunch of guys that play at Augusta and they're like, what would a 20 handicap golfer shoot there? I think they said they wouldn't break 100. I'm a 19. Okay. By the way, trending down, getting better. You're out of your mind. So as a 19 handicap, you're usually shooting around 90 at like a municipal course, right? Yeah. My rounds recently, the last I'd say like 15 of them have varied between 87 and like 95. Okay. So you're adding one stroke per hole from that to Augusta National. I can get some birdies. You are. I get some birdies. You are. You're gonna shoot that shit, man. The unfortunate thing is that we... I think the course sets up nice for my shot. You are so out of your mind. You don't believe this. I think a hundred... I think he does. 110 is doable. It is not. I would never say 100. No, it's not. I would never say 100. Eric, 110 is not doable. I'm dead serious. You know, people will hyperboleize and say, I would bet every single dollar in my savings account that you could not break 110. You know where I'd probably run in sprungs? Off the tee. No, off the tee. Off the tee. Off the tee. Everywhere. Yeah, probably everywhere. Probably putting for sure. Chipping, driving, staying in bounds. My chipping game's been pretty... Hey, I smell a little magical. No, I'm not very good at golf. But if... Neither am I. You're talking about one of the toughest golf courses in the world. Yeah, I think 110 is reasonable. But here's... It's out of your mind. Two issues. One for me would be the putting. That would be there. There are usually... There's usually one time per round where I'll hit a ball and it goes out of bounds. And then I take the drop from like up where everybody's playing already. Where the ball... Right, you're playing full rules. Where the ball like landed in the water. Occasionally, I will do that drop that's horizontal from like where the ball landed in the water when I should go back. Like 100 yards. Handicap on a quad. Yeah, I try not to do that. But sometimes you get far enough down there and you're like, oh, I thought I was going to be able to find my ball. I can't find my ball. That's why you hit a provision. I know I try, but... And then I do the like whole drop thing and I try to follow those rules. But sometimes I drop in the wrong spot. I will admit maybe once per round. I'd say like... What's your handicap right now? 0.75 times per round. I will drop a ball and not the correct location to take my penalty from. Yeah. I'm asking Jeep what you could shoot right now. What's your handicap? I believe it's a 19. I haven't been able to enter in a couple rounds recently on GHIN because it's outside scoring season in Chicago or at least it was. But I've been using 18 birdies. 110. So on 18 birdies... I'm going to ride with Big T on this one. On 18 birdies, I'm a 16.9. Wow. I mean, Arian, you don't even think you could break 110 there, right? Oh, why are you kidding me? You think? Yes. I'm absolutely bringing with it. What? I'm a 7. At Augusta? Yes. 110, my Jeep? Are you joking me? I don't know if they know the conditions. I don't know, man. I haven't played with you. I haven't played with you in like two, three years. No, I know. That's why I'm saying you're a pretty good golfer. No, I'm like a 7. I'm a single digit handicap. I can absolutely bring 110. If I shoot 110, I'm not playing great. I wouldn't bet on you not doing it, but I still don't know, but you agree, PFT could not. I don't know. So I think 100 is pushing. I think I shoot a 95 there, probably, but 110 is crazy. Absolutely. Yes. For him? They're not out of him. I don't know. I don't think. Well, you know where you guys can do this, Adam? The Masters kind of look-alike course. I think it's... The Bryson that the pros practice on. Is it just Augusta? I know there's one that has holes from different courses. It's the greens. It's not... Augusta's not super like, you heard Bryson say this. I mean, he hasn't won, but he was like, it's not that tough of a course. He's not wrong. It's the greens. It's the undulation. And if they ever would let patrons on, they wouldn't have the greens at that speed ever. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So at those speeds, I played a couple courses where the greens are pro level. I always play from the tip. So I don't know how long is Augusta. Check that for me real quick. Because I frequent courses that are like 72 to 7400 all the time. I'm sure it's probably a little longer than that. 75-10. Yeah. I mean, that wouldn't be... So, like I see part 3s that are 230 all the time. And so that's not what's intimidating me. What's intimidating is the greens and how undulated they are. Yeah. I anticipate a lot of 3 and 4 putts for me. But that would account for like me shooting above 90s. There's no way I get to 110. I'm just not that bad. Yeah. There'd be some tricky putts. You probably wouldn't make a lot of birdies. Yeah. I mean, if I make a birdie, I'm hype. There'd probably be a couple fairways where you'd hit what you thought was an excellent drive and then it rolls off. Yeah, but who knows though? You know, golf's humbling right there. I'll fuck around. We'll fuck around and go out there and meet you, Eric. And you shoot the 90. And I shoot the one thing. Who knows? That's what I love about golf. Mystic Creek Golf Club in Arkansas. That's the dupe. We'll have to go. Apparently. What did Jeep say about like a 20 handicap golfer? I asked about you specifically. It was misguided as to your handicap, so it gave a lower answer. But. Okay. What would a 20 handicap? Well, no, my so my handicap right now on 18 birdies is 16.9. Yeah, that fake app that you use where you don't keep real score. No, I do. I just type in the exact score that I have on every goal. This says most likely for a 20 handicap 105 to 115 rough day, very possible 115 to 125 plus. I said good scoring conditions. Sunday pins. No, Saturday pins. I was like, you almost. I like I'm like breaking down. No, like Sunday pins would be tough, but Saturday pins, I could definitely like I know what the fuck I'm doing. What was what's crazy about courses like that is like so that that they're like the legendary shot that Rory hit where he went for a denture tree, right? Over the tree, round the tree, bent it over. That's a par five and he's going for a 200 plus yard shot. He's hitting the seven iron. He got hit at high. I'm never going for the green on a for my second shot on a par five at that course. None of my shots are going to hold because I'm going to 207. I might that might be like a five iron, but it's just too much. It can go wrong and you off the green. Now you chipping up. That's like a guaranteed double with all those different undulations on the green. So it's like you, I'm like, it's never going to go for two on that shit like that. That's why the pros are so much better than us. No, no shot. That would be a fun asset. That a if I do that, you can kill me after that. That would be a lifelong. So you were on the you're definitely of the viral question going around. Would you rather play one round at Augusta or have lifetime tickets to the masters? You would play once. Oh, well, you absolutely see, I think I'm absolutely the other way. No, I'm because like. If you get to play, you get to experience it better than you would as a fan. But someone made a good point. If you go to the masters for 40 years, you're going to get to know somebody. And maybe at some point you find your way out there. Oh, I thought that. OK, that's not part of the building. The part of the I thought the part of the deal was you can only play and you can never play. You can never play. I think it's just you can pick one. But anything can happen. I guess if if you never if the only time you ever get to go when you play, it would only be fair that you can never you can never play if you do the under those circumstances, I'm picking play. I just posted the poll. We'll see what we'll see what people think. Wow. You're going to get roasted. Yeah, no shit. No, but like. I like how you specified excellent conditions Saturday. Yeah, excellent conditions. Saturday excellent scoring conditions. I also said if a if a hypothetical unnamed 18 handicapped played Augusta, what's my score? I love how you split the difference between yeah, between Jen and 18 birdies. Yeah, I did in the in an effort to demonstrate integrity. Eight votes. You've got one right now. Oh, it's 100 percent over 109 and a half. OK. No, you have one vote out of eight. OK, that's good. It's better than I thought it would be. Better than I thought it would be. Before we get to the episode, it's brought to you by Better Help. Therapy isn't about financial advice. It's about managing the stress, shame or anxiety that can come with it. Therapy can help people unpack their relationship with money. It can help people build healthier coping strategies. It can help people feel less alone in this whole process. Better Help therapists work according to a strict code of conduct. They are fully licensed in the United States. Better Help does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals. A short questionnaire helps identify your needs and your preferences. 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Everything that that is put on the air down there is owned by Augusta National, by the golf course, and they also they've been expanding over the last couple of decades. They keep buying up all the property nearby the golf course. And well, we can't even say like definitively that they keep buying it. It's a bunch of obscurely named LLCs. They keep buying all the property around Augusta, but a lot of them have names that are like the street address of Augusta National Golf Course. That's like the name of the LLC. Interesting. But they've for the last 25 years, they've purchased over $280 million worth of property nearby and just changed them into like parking lots and like media centers for for Masters Week. There's one house that won't sell to them. Yeah. So respect to that one lady. What was her name? I'm not sure. But there if like it's in the middle of the parking lots, there's just one one story house and they refuse to sell it. I love that. Elizabeth Thacker. So Elizabeth Thacker is her name. She has a house at one one one two Stanley Road and her entire neighborhood has been purchased by these various LLCs run by Augusta National Golf Course. They keep trying to buy her house. She keeps saying no and she just won't sell. I love that. You know, she got offered. She passed away last summer. We don't know what's going to come of the house. But but as of right now, like it's not Augusta Nationals. They haven't sold yet. We don't know what what they offered. What's wild about that situation? You know that she died and you know that when they got the news, they were like, I mean, might be might be. Yeah, that's like the family. No, Augusta National. They would then print our down for probably going to like, yeah, make a big show of like paying for a funeral and being really sad. But how did she die? That's another fair question. Yeah. It seems like I think she was an older lady. But if I was in her family and like, you know that grandma and grandpa would never sell to Augusta and you probably like fought that fight with them. Yeah, fuck that golf course. And then Grandma, grandpa passed away and then you realize that you could make like 20 million dollars off selling their house out of there. Yeah, that's a tough choice. Would you like an update on your poll? Yes. All right. So 90 percent say over one oh nine and a half. Would you like to hear some of the responses? Yeah, yeah, I would whoever set this line, don't quit your day job. That would be a better over under for number of putts. The line should be one 30. One 30 is that's crazy. Whoever set this line should take a serious look in the mirror. Brother, you're not breaking one 20. One 20 is not that far off from one time. It's not that close. I have something about that. Like we'll be playing with guys, right? And we always usually bet for money and a do that. I got you by like you only got me by like four shots. I'm like, nigga, that's four holes I beat you on. And what are you talking about? That is a lot of shots. What's four holes you lost? That's a lot of the course. Yeah, that's good point. When you break it down like that. Yeah, I think we've we've had a similar conversation with maybe Max or Brooks, like if you put my ball on the green on every hole and I was hitting one from the farthest spot on the green from the pen. I've heard this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then what would I should I think I might be able to. I don't think you break far. I think I've been in the 70s. I don't think. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if you break 80. No, I'm saying I'm saying low 80s. No, it's on a par five, though. Like I would I could be strong as Augusta. I could four put every single part of five out there easily. But here's the tricky thing about you're on the green. Not easily. But think about this. You're on the green talking about this saying you're going to shoot 70 something in the 80s. And then you're saying you're going to say one 10. I would hit my I would hit my second putt. I'd be like, I think I'm going to lay up on this. Let me defend. Let me defend you here. Right. Because getting on the green sometimes is would be you would be easier. It'd be easier. It'd be easier putt from where you land from your pitch shot than it is starting at the at the far edge of the green because they're so undulated and you have such less ball speed control. So give me give me a give me a 90 yard shot in and I'm going I have probably a better chance getting closer to the pin than I do at the at the far edge of the green at Augusta. That's what I that's what I want. Augusta, I don't need to go out there with like a super soaker and coosh balls and like a trampoline and disrespect your golf course. Just shame and do perfect. Just let me tee off from the farthest spot on each green for the pen and see what I shoot. Falls in your court. Now that will because because that debate so viral, that would do well for Augusta for them to do get a scratch. Five, 10, 15, 20 handicap and see what they do from the far edge of the green. That would be an interesting. Honestly, I'm a bad putter. It would make Augusta look great because it would be so challenging and I would struggle, but I think I could I think I could be in the 70s. I think I would get birdies on all the par fives. I think I probably birdie a couple of par fours. Birdies on all the ball. Five. Yeah, no, I have to. I think it was. What's the what's the fastest greens you I think I could eagle the par fives there. What's the fastest greens you played on? I mean, when I say eagle, I mean, like from. Oh, not like I was going to say. Yeah, not playing golf like in part. Yeah. OK, OK, OK. Like the fastest. I'm saying what's the fastest speed? I was fast. I don't know like the slope rules, but Pinehurst Pinehurst was really fast. Were they rolling at 10? I'm trying to see the speed of the green's right now. OK, the speed of the Augusta greens. Yeah, they typically run from 13 to 15. That sounds. I don't know. That's a public public courses took typically around eight or nine. I think I think that's probably a little faster than most public courses. Yeah, they say most tour greens run around 11 to 12. The fastest I plan on was like 11 five. And it was it was stupid. Like the groundskeeper came around and I was like, we know him. So I was talking shit to him. But I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Why? Why? Why are you doing this? He's like, you like them? I was like, no, no, I am not on tour. Put this shit back. But like 11 five was insane. 11 five was insane. 14. Wait, I'm trying to find what a guy or what Pinehurst number two green speed is. How do I find that out? 14 to 15 is what they're saying about. That's US open conditions at Pinehurst. So that's what I'm saying. They roll the greens different for public like for tour events. They're just they're not the same. My guess is that's not probably it won't be fun. Probably 10 to 12 is what Pinehurst was that when I played it. Could be and suck. It was very hard. But yeah, I could do that. Listen, I I would absolutely at least birdie every par five from the the putt putt rules that I've got, I would get a couple birdies on some par fours. Probably a couple bogies. Yeah, I'd probably like five putt, a couple of the par fours. And then the par threes would kill me. Yeah, because what is it? The 12th hole, that's the one that kind of slopes off to the right. Yeah. And they do that Sunday pin where it's like tucked away in the back right. That would be a tough putt for me to try to three putt those. Barstool has been credentialed for the Masters before. Correct. I think so. Yeah, I think I think four plays down there right now. So what we need is you to go down there and have a credential and just find you got to find somebody whose kid loves PMT and rig the media lottery. And then you play on Monday. I also feel like I don't want to rig the media lottery because it's awesome when they have somebody that doesn't even play golf who wins the media lottery. And then they have to go out there and try to play. And last year or the year before and there's a girl that had never played golf before. Yeah. And everybody gets so mad about that. I would just go out and I would do the putt putt challenge. That's what I would probably do. Is that allowed? I think they probably appreciate the speed that I was keeping up. Yeah, like when they let the amateurs out there, that's got to be the slowest round of all time on that Monday when they have like everybody that's out there has never played a gust that are probably like just taken in by the wonderment of the entire operation. And they every swing, they take probably 30 seconds to hit after they get up to the ball with me, put me down in the green. I'll keep it moving out there. Pace of play. Yeah. Yeah, there's nobody behind you. It's not like. Well, no, I think on that lottery day, there are a few people that go out there and play. I read a story. I don't know how many. I thought it was just one group. I don't know. I read a story about this. This one guy that won the media lottery and he went out there and he got an eagle. What's the farthest par five that they have out there? Do you know the holes, Erin? The longest par five. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm by heart like the Holly Grove corner or whatever. So whatever the longest par five is, one of the guys that won the media lottery, he went out there. I think he was like 30 years old and he got an albatross on the par five. And it was like the second albatross in the history of that. Wow. Of that hole. And then he begged the people that he was with not to tell anybody about his albatross that it could because he took somebody else's media credential who won the lottery to play that day and he was not supposed to be out there. So he had he had one of the best shots in golf history and he was not allowed to talk about it for his entire life. That's tough. And then after he passed away, they started like slowly leaking the story out. I'm letting that shit fly. Yeah, I would too. What are they going to do? Augusta, they probably have their own police department. Yeah, probably. But they can't take it away. No, but they're authorized maybe to kill you. Fair. That would not surprise me. No, not at all. Yeah, I guess the nationally carry firearms. They're outside. They operate outside the bounds of the Geneva Convention. They have bodies buried under the grass. That's why it's so green. So I've always been a little bit of a conspiracy theorist about Augusta. I like I like it visually. I think it's beautiful. I will always tune in and watch it. It's soothing. This is but this but sounds like it's about to be crazy. They paint that grass. They spray paint that grass like I I spent about 20 years watching football games at FedEx Field, where they put out green spray painted kitty litter for Redskins games and acted like it was grass. I know I know the hue of a fake grass field. I feel like there's I'm not saying they spray paint the entire course. I'm saying they probably use it for a select few holes, maybe some problem areas. I think there's a lot of green spray paint at Augusta. And I probably just talk myself out of an invite by saying that. What about what about they have so much money that they just have the best of the best stuff? They have that too. You know, they have that for sure. It's like a combination, but things go wrong. Like you get you get patchy grass sometimes. Yeah. You get like some deer that ate, you know, too much clover and you're like, shit, what am I going to do? It's going to be on TV next week. Spray paint. They probably killed every deer in that area. And any any wildlife in that area is dead. Yeah, I agree. I agree, Jerry. You're not the first person to say that. I mean, they did some research. So this goes back to the year 2000. They had the PGA championship at Valhalla in Louisville. And in the broadcast, there were a bunch of like bird experts that were watching at home. And they're like, what's all this noise that they've got going there? These kinds of birds don't live in Louisville. They're not native to that area. Wow. And they they confronted CBS about it. And CBS said, yeah, you caught us. We've been pumping in fake birds. Wow. To the PGA championship. Now, CBS also broadcast the masters at Augusta and people have accused them of having fake bird noises that they like the Falcons pumping in crowd noise. It's crazy. They've been pumping in fake birds. And then the New York Post did an investigation about it. And they said there are no birds, squirrels, insects or any other living creature indigenous to planet Earth at the masters, nowhere on the property. So they they traveled around when they were at Augusta on a multi day quest for a single bird sighting, they saw zero birds for the entire day that they were at Augusta. Wow. Yeah. But then the associate professor of biology at Augusta University said our campus is loaded with birds. We have a pretty good diversity of birds. So I imagine that we have the same birds just over there. But then they I don't know for whatever reason, they're not. No one sees them there. They got to have like invisible like is it like an invisible dome? You can't see it. But it's just got a great shirt you could wear. You could go to the masters, where are the birds? Yeah, it's got the it's got the it's the iron dome but for birds. Yeah, just like any time a bird flies over Augusta, a laser shoots. Yeah, done. Just fries it. Just turns the dust. Yeah, where are the birds? I don't know. You listen, Augusta, I don't want to be bringing these things up, but this is what you're going to have to deal with if I don't get the opportunity to put on your greens. I'll go further. You know, it's great. You say you're just trying to be a terrorist. Yeah. I was crazy. It. I'm in somewhat of a cult. I don't know that there's anything that could deter me from yet it paints grass. Yet they put in bird noises. There's just nothing that could there's nothing. Nothing at all. Nothing. What if they kill all the birds and hide them underneath the underground tunnels? Don't care. Could I interest you in some in some racism? Fuck. No, I mean, like, listen, Augusta's had it's been pretty well documented. Let's swan. Kind of. Jerry, Jerry Rice is there. OK. No. You know, I mean, it's in the south. I expected it. You know, a southern establishment made by white men since the 1800s. Right. I mean, it's it's probably going to have its fair share of history. We can't ignore history. There was a story. A I believe he was a lightweight champion boxer named Bo Jack. He was a shoe shine boy. I don't like that term. He was. Yeah, he's crazy. He shines shoes at Augusta. Go. So as a youth, he grew up in the the area nearby and he would shine shoes at Augusta National and he was also really accomplished boxer. So what they would do, this is actually pretty bad. Augusta National had a steward named Bowman Milligan, who is African American. And every year he would organize a battle royale where he would take about a half dozen African American boys or children that would fight each other in a ring wearing boxing gloves until it was last man standing and the white men at Augusta would watch. And it was like an event that they would have kind of like a boxing match, but it was a battle royale. There was one kid who is 15 years old named Sydney Bo Jack Walker. And every time that there would be one of these battle royales there, he would see this as an opportunity to make money for his grandmother to help feed his family, so he would take it seriously and just like go nuts. And he was a very good fighter. The steward of Augusta Milligan saw that this kid can fight. I want to hire him and I want to work with the kid. So they hired him at Augusta National. He started shining shoes at Augusta. He introduced him to a lot of people that were members there. And they got a group of members together to finance this guy. Bo Jack Walker's boxing career. And they sent him up to New York to train. We'd like a professional boxing instructor like custom model. Yeah, yeah. So so the group of Augusta National members pulled their money. They're like, let's get Bo Jack, the kid that shines our shoes. Let's get him training for a real fight. So they sent him up to New York and he beat Bob Montgomery for the lightweight championship belt at Madison Square Garden on November 19th, 1943. They took every dollar he had probably. They probably took all the money that he made them. His backers set up a reserve from his earnings to pay his taxes. So they did set him up for like like financial literacy, being like, hey, if you do make money, this is where all the money goes. So Walker got back to the Park Lane Hotel. They had a post fight celebration with his backers and they gave him 500 bucks. Like, thank you. Congratulations. But it seemed like it seemed it's kind of a heartwarming story a little bit outside of the whole like, let's make all the African American teenagers meet up once every couple of weeks and get into a fight for our own entertainment. Yeah. But like them seeing some promise in this guy and him being the lightweight champion of the world, pretty cool. Let's see what else we got there. That's actually a wild story. I had never heard that. Yeah. Did you know that there used to be a 19th hole at Augusta? Or they planned they planned on making a 19th hole. I don't think they ever actually made it. Tell me about it. So I think it goes back to like Scottish golf or like, I don't know, Irish golf. But at some courses, they'll do a 19th double or nothing hole. So like you play 18 holes with your boys, you get beat and then you're like, let's just do one more hole. Jerry, you can you can identify with this. Yeah. All right. One more hole for everything. Double or nothing. So there was like a tradition of having some 19th holes. And they planned on doing one at Augusta, but then the Great Depression hit and they didn't have any money to build it. The last hole. So they ended up not building it. And then Augusta National became like an institution. And by the time they had enough money to build it, they're like, no, fuck, no, we're not building a 19th hole at Augusta National Golf Course. Like what's next? Dude Perfect gets an invite here. I can't believe that happened. Yeah, yeah. Pretty wild. I didn't believe it. So Bobby Jones even signed off on having a 19th hole at Augusta. They called it a buy hole in a Scottish tradition. But yeah, they ended up not putting it in. What else we got? What else we got about Augusta, about the Masters? Have you seen that these guys are just dunking tee shots in the par three contest? Wyndham Clark made a hole in one. Keegan Bradley did too. There's been three. They have. Speaks. They have. Put it in like they put it in the places where the ball funnels for this. Oh, really? Don't I don't remember three in a day, though, before those guys are extremely talented, but yeah, they put them in places where the ball can't know, but it happens a lot like obviously way more regularly at the par three contest like Gary Woodland got one two years ago. There's a couple like caddies that had one too. Yeah, but yeah, there's been three so far today. Yeah, no disrespect. It's nice. What's your favorite part about Augusta B.T.? I mean, it's just it's just looking at it like you see that 12th hole. It's like, man, I don't care what y'all do. Just just keeping on that tight shot of of that green. Like hit it. Don't hit it. I don't care. Yeah, it's it's it's just like kind of meditation. Yeah, it's it has not decayed at all throughout decades. It's just it's beautiful. It's traditional. It's perfect. Everything about it's perfect. And Darren Ravel was shitting on on the food being like, oh, the pimento cheese sandwich sucks, the ice cream sandwich sucks. Like, dude, nobody is is is picking the master's pimento cheese sandwich over a rib eye. Right. It's perfect because it's a dollar fifty and it's it the the perfect place on earth. And it's been it's a food from a hundred years ago from like the depression when this tournament started, like it. Nobody's saying it's the best food on earth. No, it is easy to actually it stinks. It's easy. It's probably pretty tasty. It's like a great snack food. It's dollar fifty and you can it's something that it's a tradition. Yes, it's a ritual. Unlike any other some might say careful. That's owned by Gus. I didn't say the full thing. Yeah, you said some might say, which probably grounds us legally. I think we're OK. I just said unlike any other. I'm allowed to say that. It's true. You said it's a tradition. I think that. It's just like the entire experience. You know what I'm going to do? I brought in I brought in the MediQuest three, the like 3D. Virtual reality goggles. Mm hmm. I bet you there's like a sick walkthrough of Augusta that that they put out on those. I'm going to go look that up. I don't think so. You don't think so. No, I've. Tried to mess around like the Sims, all the different types of Sims for Augusta. It's not on there. Shit. Yeah. Can make a lot of money doing that. Yeah, good. The ice cream sandwich looks great. The candy bar new addition this year. That also looks pretty good. Dark chocolate, crispy rice, I believe caramel. Yeah, and it seems like even the the pro shop, which I think it's only open. Like a couple of weeks per year. Right. Yeah, I think it's just this week. And now they'll let you go the week before during the women's amateur tournament. Yeah, which is yeah, that's the time that if you want to go and like not have to deal with the line, go during that tournament. Yeah, a lot of people have been doing that. That's the hack. Yeah, because you really you want to just see the course there. Yeah, you don't need to like the tournament almost comes secondary to. Yeah. One of my favorite parts is I don't know how true this is, but this is just the folklore that's around it is if you stake your claim at a spot that day, you can leave your chair there, walk around and your chair going to be back there. I've heard that. Yeah, that's true. You go you go put your chair down and wherever it stays there. That's it. That gives me a little bit of hope in humanity. I love that. That's amazing. But it's to the to the credit of how they do things over there. They really care about the patrons experience. They care about the experience there. That's why they don't raise the food prices. That's why they have a certain standard. No cameras like this. This is an experience. We want you to experience it because you care about the experience so much. The people care about. Upheap, upholding that experience. It's beautiful. All the phones go in like a lock box. I think you just have to hurt it in your car. Usually. Gotcha. I wonder how many people get. I would love to know the number of people that get caught per year. I'll bring in second phone. Yeah, phone, metaglasses. Oh, they're probably having to deal with that this year. Yeah, metaglass is. Yeah. I didn't think about that. Like like spy cam. Yeah, that they bring in. Yeah, I tell you what, I think the good the good thing about. Golf and that experience of the masses is it's kind of self regulated. You know what I mean? I know they have a whole bunch of security, but it's like it's there's a certain standard in golf that everybody can like, yo, this is respect the game. And so like everybody kind of like self manages each other. Oh, this is another thing that hurts like there's no trash cans. They have people that walk around with little bags. And before you finish your shit, they like, let me take that. Yeah. And they put they put trash in they bag and they proud. So they have hired trash people that walk around and make sure people don't leave trash on the ground. Fire dog. And anytime like you start to crumble up a napkin and somebody gets on a headset and they're like, we got a crumbler. We got a crumbler on whole number seven. Move in. Harry, you know, one of the amateurs this year is from UT. All right. Jackson Herring. That's hard. You imagine being an amateur. Tina off. Who was the guy a couple of years ago that was like top five into the weekend? Yeah. I think that was when Tiger won his. Oh, that was more recent. Yeah, no, I think it was a shipply. Neil Shipply, Jamie. Was it really? Yeah. I do remember that name. He went to JMU. He did. I think he was in Ohio State. He transferred to Ohio State. Yeah. He finished really. Yeah. He had Sunday collapsed. But he was like in it. Paired with Tiger. Yeah, he did get paired with Tiger. That's right. Tiger playing this year. Tiger's not playing this year. No, Tiger's he's out of the country right now. I did not see that. Well, yeah, now he might be getting treatment out of the country. Yeah, I think Ibogaine maybe. Actually, it could be. What do you know about that? Because I've heard a lot about it over the last couple of years. It's like a I don't know if it's an opiate, but it is designed. It's a drug that's designed to help people quit opiates. Yeah, it's pretty much like you hallucinate for like a couple of days straight and then pretty much like rewires your brain. I just don't believe in any of that stuff. I mean, I know in some cases, like I have had buddies who's been out the country to do that and pay like 15,000, 10,000 to do shit like that. The quarterback did. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, yeah, it's like similar to Iwasa. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, but in some case, I think in one case, it actually just worked for one guy, but the rest of them, I don't think it ever worked. I think it's very it's super high risk, high reward. Like I have heard a lot of people say that it's the best way for them to quit taking drugs is to like it reset something. But then there's also a lot of people that like when you take that shit, you go through like mental trauma, like reliving your past and like all the bad things that happened that led you to that spot, which some people have a tough time dealing with. But yeah, I think I think Tiger, he said that he's out of the country. He phrase it like he needs privacy and he can't get privacy in the United States, which is probably true. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, you might be right, Jerry, if he's trying to kick like a pill addiction. Yeah, I have a game. That would be one way to do it. Probably. But no, he's not he's not going to be at Augusta. But imagine if he was. Yeah, we just showed up. What would happen if he just showed up? I think that they would remember. Nevermind. I've learned to not make certain jokes. Oh, you remember when Jim Bahan went back to Syracuse and they gave him a standing ovation? Yeah. Yeah. Be kind of like that. I guess they just like be like, welcome back, Tiger. We love you. Yeah. Yeah. He was cleared in that. I know. But you remember when he went back and like the whole arena like applauded? Yeah. That was weird. Tough circumstance. Very tough circumstance. But like the standing ovation was kind of strange. What do you want him to do? Like there's no way security would be like, yeah, you got to get out. No, no chance. He's a member. Yeah. Tiger is he is carte blanche. He can go there whenever. Like that's the thing. If you get if you become a member at Augusta National, I think you could probably hide out from the FBI there. I think it's like they would probably. It's like an embassy. Yeah, they would. Yeah, Butler cabin. Yeah, they are under no obligation. I can't go in to let troops in. Yeah. I'm sorry to think he's going to show up. Imagine, imagine on Sunday. I think we just unplugged the microphone. I got it. We're back in. Yeah, Tiger on Sunday just like helicoptering. And it's been his dream like a Navy SEAL. That'd be so sick. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you know about that. Oh, yeah. That he's like super obsessed with the military. Oh, yeah. And he would sneak away to like go to to like military installations and go like hang out with the troops and they'd put him through like the ringer. That's maybe how he hurt his back. Yeah. So I'd like to disclose like a little bit of medical information on this podcast. Is that OK? Yeah. My own medical information. So we're on break. Erin, you remember last year at the at the writer cup when my back locked up on me and I could barely move. I do remember. So I finally got around to going to see a specialist about it yesterday morning. And they did an X-ray. And I think they figured out what's wrong. And it's kind of weird. Back. I think I'm missing a vertebrae. Whoa. Like you just don't have I think most people have five vertebrae in their back. And my fifth vertebrae is like it's fused to my tailbone. So I only have like four free floating vertebrae. And the fifth is just like an extension that comes out of my tailbone. And then that makes all the discs in between the lower vertebrae really put into strange like squeezing positions that fucked up the nerves there. So I've got like bulging disc, herniated disc because I'm missing a vertebrae. That's why you can never jump though. That makes probably imagine how much taller I'd be if I had that extra vertebrae. Yo, that's true. You'd be like at least two inches tall. Yeah, can we look that up? Big T, can you search? How long is an average vertebrae? And then you got to take into account. He's missing and then a disc too. So be one vertebrae and a disc. 10 to 30 millimeters. OK, so that would be virtually nothing. Three centimeters at the most. But you got think he's probably, you know, hunting over a little bit more because of that. Yeah, you're not a little bit. But what you you five you five ten with that. Thank you. Appreciate that. We're going to we're going to see. I got an MRI so they're going to get in there a little bit deeper. But yeah, it was kind of weird to look at that on the X-ray and be like, oh, shit, am I a freak? When he first said it, my my initial reaction was like, is he telling me that I have a tail like that? I was born with like an internal tail. But no, it's just I got I'd pre fusion like Tiger Woods had fusion on his neck. Peyton Manning had fusion on his neck. I had fusion on my lower back before I was even born. Also, like 50 percent of people are missing ribs and they don't even know it. Did you hear that? I've yeah, I've heard that it's not like a uniform. Yeah, I've heard that with teeth, too. I didn't hear it with teeth. Some people might have like odd numbers of teeth in their mouth. Aaron, what else you got for this week? Anything? No, I mean, honestly, I just been prepping for the masters. I like the dudes just like dudes at home. They're like, I've been prepping for the master's monitoring the situation. I love that. What was that? Because you got to get together. I'm saying, where are we getting that? Where we get where we're getting up? Where we going to watch first day, second day, third day, you know, say cats getting against this and watching with your boys. A hundred percent. We do have an annual thing that we're starting. It's called killing the masters. And I'll send you guys the logo. But as much as we have a like a black golf crew in Houston and we all get together, we do a tournament the week of the masters. I like that. Pretty dope. Yeah, I like that. Well, that sounds fun. I hope everybody has a great weekend. Enjoy the masters, friends. I hope that I'm ruined for Max Alma, ruined for Brooks. This show is going to be the hardest pivot we've ever done. It might be. Well, this is fine. At this point, if you do not want to hear us talk about politics, the episode is over. No, but it's a great interview. It's a yeah. But if it is really that kind of person that does not want to hear politics, which I'm not judging you for, like you probably hear about politics all the time on the news and shit. If you're not into that, now is the time where you can just say. And then I will not I will not hold against you. Nobody we still love you. You're still welcome back to listen. We appreciate you. But there are a lot of people that do like hearing us talk about politics. So we've got Tim Miller that's joined the show from the Bull Work. And he's a former communications director for Jeb Bush. Please clap. Thank you. That's for those unfamiliar, very misleading as to what he thinks. Right now, if you just introduce him. Yeah, if you just introduce him as the former Jeb Bush campaign manager. Yeah. Well, communications director for Jeb Bush, lifelong Republican until 2016. And then I think when Trump went after Jeb, then at that point, Tim was like, I'm never going back. So he is he's voted Democrat for the last three years. But that's just kind of his background. Anyways, smart guy, interesting interview. I like him and he's a diehard LSU Tigers fan as well. But if you want to listen, now here's the interview. And I think it's a pretty good one. So I think you guys will like it and the interview will be brought to you by our great friends. Actually, what we're doing this week is we got a movie coming out from Magnolia Pictures, John Wick and nobody, the producers of those two fine films. They are presenting normal. It's a double barrel shotgun blast of pure mayhem. It's Bob Odenkirk, one of the best actors in America. He plays sheriff Ulysses and he's got a new job as a temporary sheriff in a small town of normal Minnesota, and he was meant to take this job as a welcome respite from his recent troubles. But then a botched bank robbery interrupts the piece. The dark secrets expose and Ulysses discovers that the town of normal is anything but directed by Ben Wheatley, starring Bob Odenkirk, Henry Winkler and Lena. Lena Headey, awesome, awesome movie. Normal, see it only in theaters starting April 17th. Bob Odenkirk plays a small town sheriff and it sounds sounds pretty awesome. I love John Wick. I love nobody. I'm going to enjoy normal. And now here's Tim Miller. All right, we welcome on a very special guest to Macrodosing. It's Tim Miller. You've seen him online on the Bull Work. You've listed the podcast, the Bull Work. You're dominating YouTube Shorts. I feel like I feel like you're 50 percent of America's algorithm for YouTube Shorts. So congratulations on that. We are dominating the YouTube sports space. It's important to dominate the battle space. I might say a little bit about your algorithmic choices, though. You might be betraying something about yourself because my YouTube Shorts is a lot of like Twinks and Lane Kiffin. I do have, you know, yeah, I've got I've got the Lane Kiffin part for sure. And from a distance, if you squint, you can't really tell which of those two categories it might be. But yeah, it's like I get a lot of Tim Miller showing up on YouTube Shorts. I get a lot of just dudes playing three holes of golf and like posting their scores. I'm not getting that at all. That's totally outside of the, you know, the gay YouTube short algo space. I get no golf. Then I get then I get just puppy content. I get a lot of dog content. Yeah, no puppies either. So there you go. I'm telling you, it means you're clicking on me. It means it means I'm giving you dynamic, engaging content. You crank it out and say you guys put out a ton of content over there. So it's been it's been interesting to see a lot of stuff going on this week. This is actually probably a great time to have you on the show. Yesterday was one of the more insane days, I would say, like between Trump tweeting out or excuse me, posting on truth, he truthed in the morning that we were going to end people's civilizations forever if we didn't come to an agreement. And then magically, as everybody predicted, there was an agreement that they came to. And it turns out that we got everything that we wanted. We basically won the war. And now we've got two weeks where it's a double sided ceasefire, which I'm not. Maybe you can enlighten us to like the difference between a double sided ceasefire and a single sided ceasefire. But it seems like we've kind of we avoided nuclear armageddon yesterday. So today should be a celebration. I'm not I don't know if I'm quite there on celebrating for the audience. Doesn't know I do have Trump derangement syndrome. So I just think everybody should take everything I take within that context. I own it. I acknowledge it. It was a weird day yesterday. My friend sent me like the local news like he just kind of recorded. He records the local news every day. Very strange choice by him. But and it was like the beginning of the show. It's like, hey, this is channel four or five o'clock news. The president has threatened to end a civilization tonight. You know, and also, you know, we've got news and traffic on the 10s. And I do think for people who don't like follow this shit closely, like this whole month has to have been a very weird experience, right? Like he ran against going towards, you know, if you're not like really a news follower around it and attack us like anytime recently. And there's been history of attacks, of course, but like there's nothing that preempted this really. And so, you know, if you're just going about your life, you have a job. And then one day you go to the gas station, shits a buck more gallon. And the president's threatening to end the civilization. I think it's disorienting for people. And they're like, what is why are we doing this? What is happening? And, you know, that's not really like what you're going for. When you're trying to get into a war, you're trying to be pretty clear about what your objectives are and why you're doing it and what the American people are going to get out of it. And that like never really happened here. We're taping this Wednesday morning. You know, we do have the quote unquote double-sided ceasefire, but like literally an hour before we came on, they're on news service. Obviously take that with a major grain of salt to saying that they're not letting some tankers through the Strait of Formuz because Israel's still attacking Lebanon. The Pakistani prime minister, who I guess was brokering the deal, posted that there have been violations already of the ceasefire and he wants everybody to chill out. So, you know, we went through this with Gaza a little bit like there'd be ceasefires and then they wouldn't last. So, you know, I don't I think Pete Hegzeff was taking a victory lap this morning. I'm not sure we're quite there. Yeah, I did. I did see a report this morning from Jonathan Carl, who is ABC News Chief Washington correspondent. He said really legit. Yeah, he seems like a big J. He said this morning I asked President Trump if he's OK with the Iranians charging a toll for all ships that go through the Strait of Formuz. He told me there may be a joint US Iran venture to charge tolls. We're thinking of doing it as a joint venture. It's a way of securing it also. Yeah, securing it from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing. So I'm just guessing. I feel like I've I've gotten pretty good at end their civilization yesterday. Today they're our business partner. Like we got a little joint venture, got a little escort together. Yeah, it's kind of a 50 50. I think I've become pretty good at reading between the lines of just how Trump lives. And it sounds like yesterday he he tried to do a celebration for the ceasefire and avoiding, you know, like nuclear Armageddon and brought us back from the brink of a massive, massive war yesterday. And so he celebrated that a little bit. Then he heard the pushback that actually contained in the the ceasefire was Iran kind of dog walking us when it came to taking charge of the Strait of Formuz. And so now he's like, actually, we're both thinking about doing this together as a venture when I think that he's more wishing he had asked that yesterday. Yeah, I mean, I kind of always thought this would end with Trump paying off the mullus that seemed like the most likely end. And that's how that's how the Venezuelan game a bit worked. It's not like we got freedom for the Venezuelan people. We got rid of one communist dictator and then cut a deal at the other one where we get a cut of the oil. Like we'll see how long that lasts. That's Trump's M.O. He always said that about Iraq, we should have taken the oil. So you got to figure that's where his head was in this situation. It's just like it's a lot more of a complicated deal. You know, there's a lot of more ins and outs and what have yous in the Middle East than there are in Venezuela. And you've got like, if we're going to be part of controlling the Strait and getting a cut of this toll and Oman gets a cut and Iran gets a cut. Well, what like how did UAE and Saudi and Israel, how do they feel about that? They were our partners in the war. They've got attacked by Iran. They're all still getting attacked by Iran this morning. And so you got to figure that there they would not be in favor of that. But maybe they'll have to be because Trump's in a deal with them too. Like the UAE is part of a crypt. You know, they're in Trump's crypto coin with his kids. Saudi is invested with Jared. And he's just kind of refashioned our democracy until like looking a lot more like a Middle Eastern type, like light authoritarian country where there's bribes and payoffs and like the presidents in business with everybody's kids in business with everybody. And so I think that he thinks that you keep this fragile deal by just, you know, having bag man everywhere and keeping paying people off. And as long as people are making money, maybe they'll stop shooting at each other. Like the conflict there, though, I know there's a lot more. There's a lot deeper issues at play in the Middle East that maybe money won't be able to solve everywhere. Like we'll kind of see. But I'm like, again, you're already seeing this this morning. Like Lebanon was allegedly part of the deal from the Iran side, that Israel is going to stop attacking Lebanon. Israel bombed the shit out of Lebanon this morning. And now Iran's not letting ships through. So like we'll see how he navigates himself out of it. So it's interesting that you were talking about like how the Trump has family members that are involved in the negotiation and they've got their crypto coins and their their investments set up that seem to be all intertwined. From a business perspective, which in a way could theoretically make everybody play nice. If they're all if they're all kind of like playing the same financial game. The old the old McDonald's theory, which I don't think is true. But the McDonald's theory for a long time, people would just repeat it, which is like two countries that have McDonald's has have never gotten into a war with each other. Because ideally, if you're a capitalist country, you're not going to sacrifice, you know, you're not going to screw up the bag for anybody. So like maybe if there's just enough corruption with all these governments and they're all dealing to each other, then they're not going to get into a war with each other because everyone's getting paid off. I honestly think that that's his perspective. And he's also a guy that like lives one minute at a time like he doesn't have a big, you know, they've tried to like refashion some kind of ideology onto him, some sort of America first ideology, and he gives these big speeches, but he just undermines the speeches the next day. Like he's just he's trying to do this via deals. So, you know, again, like we'll see how that works out. It's working out from the short term in Venezuela. The Venezuela situation is just a lot less complicated, though. I mean, like Israel has legitimate security concerns. The other Arab countries have like real financial concerns. A lot of people left Dubai, like a lot of their energy infrastructure was hit. Right. So like, and then there's the religious conflict there, you know, that is for a lot of people sincere. Right. And so, you know, the idea that you can just pay people off like the same way you can in Caracas. I'm extremely skeptical that that is going to work. In addition to the fact that it's just not really, it's not in the American tradition. Like it's it's also not sustainable to do that. Yeah. Well, it's it's not sustainable and it's not. I don't think it's the kind of country we want to be. You know, and there's a lot of outrage on the right about Hunter Biden, like selling his shitty paintings for a million bucks and like the corruption there and how he's on the board of some natural gas company in Ukraine. And like Hunter Biden obviously shouldn't have been on the board of anything. But like the scale of this is unlike anything like in any of our lifetimes, any of our parents' lifetimes. Like the idea that the president's son-in-law is in business with Saudi. Well, he's the lead negotiator in a war with the country that is in conflict with Saudi. And then he's in the situation room with no security clearance with BB. When BB's pushing the war and like his brother-in-law is taking a half a trillion dollars from the UAE who's also a part of the war. I mean like there's nothing like there's no level of corruption or family financial entanglement that like we've ever had. And like George, you remember, I was about to say George Clinton. He was a funk guy. Remember Roger Clinton? Remember the Rod, any of the old, sorry, big T, might not remember this. Us olds remember Roger Clinton. He was Bill's like fuck boy brother. Well, Bill is the fuck boy too. They both were. He took 50 grand from the Gambino family to try to get some of those guys apart in. 50 grand. And like that became like this massive scandal about how like corrupt the Clintons were and all this. It's like, bro took 50 grand. I mean Jared is getting, you know, 10 figures from Middle Eastern Mullis. Yeah, it's hard to keep up with. There's like a lot of stuff that's come out and every new fact that I learned pushes one old fact out of my brain that I can't keep up with anymore. But that's I think also part of the strategy sometimes. Yeah, Aaron. That's what I was going to say is I think the, for lack of a better term, the brilliance of what Trump has done is he's desensitized the world to corruption and desensitized the world to any kind of semblance of diplomacy. Like he's kind of crumbled and like when you say that to people who are Trump's sick of fans, they're like Obama was the one that divided the country, right? Which is just asinine to me. Like I can't even, we don't live in the same reality. And I'm not even a huge Obama fan, but like it's just what Trump has done is constantly berated us with wild statement after wild statement after wild statement to the point that he just threatened to genocide and everybody's like, yeah, that's kind of wild. What? Like, and that's why it's just, I don't know where we go from here because the interesting part is after Trump's term, hopefully, the Republican Party's gonna have to run somebody and they've given up all moral ground for any kind of critique you have against any Democrat that runs. Well, man, I agree with most of that. The one thing I guess I'd push back on and offer like some level of optimism. I'm usually kind of rain cloud. They called me rain cloud on the campaigns I worked on, but most of the campaigns I worked on lost. So I was always like, I'm reality cloud actually. Wait, I'm just telling you what's happening. Tim, was it your call? Were you the exclamation guy for Jeb? I was that. Jeb was exclamation before I got there. If you don't know, I was Jeb's communications director. And no, the exclamation point preceded me. There are other things you could blame on me. Do you remember the tweet he sent that was like America and then it was just like a gun? Yes, I did. Okay. That one was my fault actually, but here's why. I was reviewing, I had to approve the tweets. So I was reviewing it on my phone and it was actually a fucking montage of different pictures when I looked at it on my phone. And so when it came up, it was like the gun was one of the pictures, but it was also barbecue and I don't know, a church or something. It was a bunch of different things, but then when it went out, it was like just the gun. Tim, I had to see this tweet until just now and let me tell you, I think this tweet rocks. Let me see it again. Okay, great. Is that awesome? I was going to say, is that a say in what kind of gun is that? You're just the head of your time. That's how most Republicans are running. The gun. So anyway, it says Governor John Bolsh on it. It's a sick gun. Sick gun. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if that encapsulates America really. It was a little intimidating in the photo, but I appreciate the complexity. The girls pointed away. The, what I was going to say was about the corruption, man. And I do think that they're, it's why I like to talk about it a lot. I do think that there is hope actually that people, even within Trump's own orbit, like maybe not the biggest sycophants, but even people have voted for him. Like they, they didn't sign up for the, you know, them paying more money for things and the economy getting worse and Trump's family getting the bag. Like I think everybody understood when they voted for him that, you know, this is not, he's not, you know, crossing his T's and dotting his eyes and the paperwork and everything. And, you know, maybe some of his family is going to make a little cash and as long as they were making cash, I think everybody's okay with that. But as the economy gets worse, I do think people are going to get pissed about the corruption and pissed about the like the big ballroom and the fact that he's putting his fucking name on everything. And that is, you know, he's got generational wealth for Baron is doing insider deals, you know, insider trading on Cal-shee on the war or whatever he's doing. Like they're all making insane amount of money, the Trump family. Like he's an actual billionaire now instead of a fake billionaire. And like if you look at other countries, like the way that like a more, you know, rules-based order, free market type, you know, pushback, you know, pro-democracy pushback has worked in other countries against authoritarians is a lot of times like focusing on the corruption. Like that's what Navalny was all about against Putin until they killed him. Like he didn't talk about Putin's bad policies or stuff. He talked about how Putin was getting rich, why people weren't making money. Like regular people, like people don't like that, you know. And so I do think, I think it's possible that that is something that ends up being his political undoing a little bit, particularly if the economy. There's been one development in the last couple of weeks that's like stood out more so than I've seen before. And that's from within his own, his own administration. There seems to be like, JD Vance seems like he is trying to set himself up for whatever's next. So what I mean by that is he is simultaneously for the war in Iran and against the war in Iran at the same time. He has, I think, put out a lot of stuff in the press, leaking information about the decisions to go to war and how the run up to these strikes have been carried out, where it makes him seem like he was the only one really pushing back against Trump telling him, don't do this, don't go to war, you're going to sell out the base that elected you to keep us out of foreign conflicts and focus on domestic issues. And then the second that Trump decided that he was going to go ahead and carry out the war, then Vance said, well, I'm going to support you 100% in this war. But just so you know, I am also 100% against you doing this war. And so it seems to me, there was that and there's been a couple other things. He seems like a guy that I don't think was ever a true believer. I don't think he was ever a diehard America first guy. I don't think he was ever a diehard MAGA guy. He called Trump Hitler in 2016. And I think he's been he's been wooed by the Peter Teals of the world and groomed to be like the the person who might be taking America into the next century of, I guess, tech friendly capitalism surveillance state stuff. And I think that he's got a lot of money behind him. And I think that he is now trying to separate himself a little bit. We're starting to see the crack between him and Trump, because he's thinking about the next iteration for him, and how he is going to be the one that carries the torch. I don't know if you talked to anybody on the inside or what you've seen. But but to me, that seems like it feels like that's the direction that we're going here. Yeah, I had more sources on the inside in the first term, because that was back when I was still quasi-Republican. And like, my boss was Reince Priebus, who was his first chief of staff. You know, Susie Wiles was also my boss in a different in a different world. And she's the current chief of staff, but she didn't reply to my last email. So I don't have like a ton of inside sources. But I can tell you this from the outside, something that's pretty clear, which is Donald Trump, whatever happens at the end of 2028, as long as he is on this mortal coil, like he is still going to be posting. He's a poster, like he is not going to do it. George W. Bush did. He's not going to move to Texas and like paint go quietly. Okay, like that's not that's not the guy I know. All right. And so for that reason, JD stuck with him. JD stuck, you know, like you cannot really imagine a situation where JD runs in 2028. And it's like, you know, the Iran thing was really a screw up, right. And like, if I was in charge, I would do it differently. Because like Trump would just shoot him out of the sky. I mean, like Trump would annihilate him over that. And, you know, then you'd have whatever, Marco or someone else from the outside, like come in and try to take the Trump lane. And so I just think that he's in a very precarious situation, JD. And like you said, he's not, none of this is really that authentic anyway. And he's on his like, third or fourth name, second religion, their second or third political, third political ideology. I mean, JD was a never JD was me. I do take it a little personal. Me and JD at 2016 were both anti Trump, you know, like moderate Republican bloggers, like that's like he was like writing for the Atlantic and David from 2016. He done flip. And then yeah, so I mean, I guess kudos to him. He's in the vice presidents and I'm fucking hanging out with you guys and doing a podcast, but like, it's fake, you know, it's fucking fake, like everybody can see it's fake. We don't talk enough about the conversion to Catholicism as an adult. I don't want to disparage the Catholic faith. I know Matt Dog, Mackenzie, you guys are Catholics. Kudos to you. I hope you're happy. Cradle Catholic, though. In your religion, but like cradle Catholic. Yeah, but here to choosing to become a Catholic crazy being how old was he like 35 years old and saying, that seems like a lot of fun. That I don't understand that mentality. It seems that also seems performative. It is. It's also like being a cradle Catholic versus a Catholic convert are two very different mindsets you have to be in. Like me at Easter church on Sunday, a couple days ago, my mindset is probably very, very different than what JD Vance has cooking up in his for a lot of different reasons. But it. Have you ever seen the classic tweet about this? It's so good. Yeah, I'm going to read this to you. This is a gray bee wrote this every lifelong Catholic, every cradle Catholic I've ever met is like, I think we're supposed to give the food to poor people and every adult convert is like the Archon of Constantinople's epistle and the Pentecostine rights of the Eucharist states that women shouldn't have driver's license. That's very like, right. It's like a very different vibe. I always, oh, sorry. I always say I'm liberal because I'm Catholic and what I was taught in my 13 years of Catholic school leads me to be more progressive. And I think someone like JD Vance takes that takes the Bible and uses it maybe in a different way to fuel an agenda rather than help the poor and the sick and the meek and the mild. The other thing about the conversion, we should just say like, again, say what you want about Trump. He's not my cup of tea, but I understand why people like him. But the idea that simultaneously you're converting to Catholicism because you're having this religious awakening and you want to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church simultaneously to that, you're also having a political conversion where like, I'm going to become a sycophantic apologist of like the least Catholic person ever imaginable to run the country. It's hard to take seriously that it's all earnest. It's obviously fake. That's what Dave Rubin did that too, Minnie. Is Dave a Catholic? I know he found God. I don't know about Catholic. Sometimes I don't know if he's Catholic, but he went from like an atheist to an atheist left-leaning person to a Republican religious person. Yeah, I think it must be a Protestant thing. Catholics aren't welcoming gay parent converts. It's not all that. He has a whole lot going on. We're going to take a quick break from Tim Miller to talk to you about Stella Blue. Tim does a lot of monitoring of situations. I feel like he's kind of a professional situation monitor, as are a lot of us out there. And you know, that takes some energy. So what better to have than the Stella Blue can lattes? Perfect. Pick me up when you're busy. Crafted with 100% Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. But the great thing about Stella Blue is that the benefits go beyond the taste. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella Blue, you're not only enjoying great taste and coffee, you're also helping save more dogs. And if ready to drink cans, aren't you think Stella Blue has a variety of customizable coffee formats? Try it all now at StellaBlueCoffee.com. Tim, I want to ask you about, about the like lead up to the war compared to how the ceasefire was handled. And just based on based on how I read it, it seems like Netanyahu like gave a PowerPoint presentation, like he rolled into town, like it was a business meeting. And he had he had a deck that was set up. And he stood up there, he had his laser pointer. And he was he was a monorail salesman. And he's like, here's, here's how we're going to conduct this war. Don't worry about the blowback, their capabilities won't be they're not going to be crazy enough to attack anybody else. It should be minimal. We should be able to accomplish everything in like a couple weeks. And then Trump was like, Okay, I like this presentation. I'm ready to sign on. I'll subscribe to newsletter. And then the ceasefire feels like it was handled entirely without Israel say so. And so I I'm curious to know what you think like, how is that going to play out behind it? Does Israel feel like now they got left out in the cold by Trump? Like how's how's that dynamic going to work out? Yeah, the Israel situation is so crazy. And I've like, you know, being a former Republican, I got a lot of like, neocon friends, pro-Israel friends that have been like mad at me for saying just what is true, which is that like Israel dragged like many drag does over seated pushed, cajoled, encouraged, whatever you want, like, Israel like literally had the head of state come to our situation room and as you say, give a PowerPoint presentation to convince Trump to get in the war. Like obviously we wouldn't have been in the war if Israel didn't want to get into it. Like Trump wasn't, you know, Trump could have just gone to Cuba. That would have been a lot easier. Trump was like bored. He's like, I want to go to capitate another regime. The Cuban thing is closer. Like, you know, there's a lot less complications there. Like the reason we went for Iran is because BB like convinced him to. So it doesn't mean that like, you know, I don't, I'm not pushing some like anti-Semitic thing about how there's like a secret cabal of Jews that are like, you know, puppet mastering everything. It's just like, we just have to take everybody at their word for what happened, which is like BB convinced him to do it. And so I think that obviously happened. There was a good great New York Times, like inside the room story on that. But it seems like JD was the source for because JD comes off looking surprisingly good. I don't know. Anyway, just one theory. I know how these things were. Usually the people that leaked to the reporters are the ones that looked the best. In the first term, it was always Jared and Ivanka were always the voice of reason. Remember, in all the New York Times stories, it's like, I wonder why that happened, how that happened. So like that happened on the front end. And that doesn't mean that Israel controls us. It means that like they took advantage of Trump's like megalomania and his desire to like go do shit. And like they told him that he was going to be get peace in the Middle East and whatever. And so they worked him. And so now we're here and they're feeling economic pain because of the straight to Hormuz. Trump's bored. And so he's like, okay, I went out of this, I want to cut a deal. You know, declare victory. Trump's good at that, like doing something, declaring victory. And like Israel hasn't had their objectives achieved. Like some of them have been, to be fair, like like Iran has fewer missiles and ships and planes and anti aircraft material than they did a little while ago, a month ago. So that's Israel, I think takes that as like a small win, right? Like they feel a little safer. But like the regime is still in place. Hezbollah is still in Lebanon. And Hamas isn't totally eliminated yet. And now if this happens, if Trump like cuts his deal on the straight to Hormuz where there's like a toll where the Iranians get money, like they'll be able to reconstitute all that stuff. Like, like if they're getting money from oil prices and from the toll on the straight, then you know, maybe it's six months, maybe it's a year or whatever, but they'll be able to buy missiles again if they want to. So like Israel hasn't achieved their goal of like, which was either eliminating Iran's ability to attack them or getting regime change. And so the question is, what do they do? And I don't know. I mean, my guess is probably be like chills for it a little bit. And it's like, whatever, maybe I can convince them again in a couple months. And that's kind of what I've been last time, right? Like he he convinced Trump to do the bombing of the of Fordo. And then nine months later, was like, Hey, you know, we got to, we got to go back in. Maybe he's gonna, that'd be my guess. And I it's hard for me to get inside the mind of BB. But like, that's kind of how seems it seems like things are playing out. Yeah, yeah, it's been it's been crazy to watch it does feel like there's a new twist every single day to like how this whole thing is shaking. And honestly, when we first started the military operation, if you don't want to call it a war, I felt I felt insulted. I felt like I wanted my government to at least try to lie to me about why we're going to war. They didn't even try to lie tell me there's weapons of mass destruction. Yeah, give me give me something that I can go I don't want a mushroom. I don't want the the red flag to be a mushroom cloud. You know, like I want, give me some rhetoric. Give me something that it's going to make me like, turn off my ability to think critically about starting war and get me mad enough and sell me a war they didn't. I feel like I feel like a cheap whore. They didn't even try to sell me a war feel used. Yeah. And this is the thing from our perspective, man. And this is like, I just, if you just take the politics out of this, right? And you can't but like, if you just take like the tribalism out of us, I guess, and you just, you know, you act like this is like NBA trade machine style thing. And you're like, you put a generic person as the president, where you take out your biases. And you're like, here's the deal that we've got for you. Okay, we're gonna cut some American troops are gonna die not that many, but like some American troops are gonna die. Energy prices are gonna go up prices are gonna go up for a few months, probably to the summer, flight prices are gonna go up. There's gonna be global economic instability. We're gonna piss off our friends in Europe and Asia, we're gonna piss off Australia. Okay. And like, and we're also gonna spend billions on this war, we're gonna have to like, reconstitute the planes that we blew up and, you know, the bases that were attacked, like that all costs real money. In exchange for that, like what we get is Iran has fewer ships and missiles. And like we traded out the 86 year old, I told her for like a younger I told her, like, I just don't think anybody would be for that. Right? Like America first, maga types would be opposed to that because it wasn't America's interests. The liberals would be opposed to that because we were not for war in Iran, like this stupid. I guess the people that would be for it would be like the very pro Israel, you know, kind of right wing Hawks, like the Mark Levin Ben Shapiro types like that. Like if you just pitched that like blind, like, here's the deal, like, would you take this? I just think the only people that would have taken it are the pro Israel, like Ben Shapiro Hawk. Yeah, no. And, and, yeah, you're right. I like to the trade machine analogy. And I mean, even they're, they're losing Alex Jones. Alex Jones said yesterday, like, I think that we should kidnap President Trump and we should tackle him and we should kidnap. I might be putting words into his mouth. I don't want to like, listen, I'm not going to go out here and slander Alex Jones. But he did say somebody should tackle President Trump and lock him in a room and tell him that he's still president and then let somebody else run the country, which honestly, that was my idea from like day one. I think that if you if you did a reality show and you told Trump he was president had cameras everywhere, you built a full scale model of the Oval Office, and you just told him your president, let's just watch what happens behind the scenes as you run the country. That would be the best television show of all time. It would it would absolutely dominate in the ratings. Everybody would pay attention. Everyone tell him like you're so great on TV. He would appreciate that too. But that's actually what Alex Jones is suggesting that we do now. And when you've lost the Alex Joneses of your coalition, it seems like it seems like things aren't going so well for you. Well, let me jump in here because I think I have a unique perspective as the only person in this room who doesn't like just out and out hate Trump. I do think he has squandered the best momentum the Republican parties had in my lifetime, at least then I can remember. Like when when Trump was elected, it seemed like there there was a real force that was that was I think he's totally squandered that. Now, the Dems could never get me, Tim, no matter what happens, they'll never get me. But I have never never, but I have friends that I not even like John Bell Edwards, who couldn't give you like one. So that's where I'm going though, because I they could never get me, but I have friends that I think they probably could under the right circumstances. But I think Trump has driven them further like instead of trying to come to more toward the middle, I think they're going further toward the left, which just creates a further chasm and more fights and whatever. So and you have an interesting perspective on this as well as someone who worked in Republican politics. And now I guess you'd say you're an independent. Yeah, people try it always like I'm technically an independent. I voted for the normal Republican who had no chance to win the Louisiana Governor race against Jeff Landry last time. But like, I don't know, man, I voted for Hillary and and Biden and Kamala. So I'm kind of functionally a Democrat at this point. So I so I just don't know like where where do the Democrats go in response? And where do we've kind of talked about the Republican Party after Trump, whatever that looks like. I just don't know that it seems as ineffectual as Trump has been, it seems that the other side may not have an incredible strategy either. Yeah. I just want to say at the start, I totally agree with you like had Trump done nothing like after Doge Trump just like they just Trump just chilled golfed, right, like, you know, done press conferences, right? Like they the Republic like the momentum he had in the spring of last year was like very real, like the cultural shift, you know, focused on like random executive orders about DEI, like, like this has been a mess of his own making like the tariffs, this war, like the Epstein stuff, like it was like he didn't have to do this to himself. I don't, I guess kind of before I answer the Democratic question about where I think the Democrats are going to go, can I ask you like why it's they're not why there's no way they could ever get you like is there a specific issue? Several I just I don't feel there is any common ground anymore between myself and anyone running on a Democratic platform. Can I can I try to be a big T whisper here? I think the reason boils down to the fact that they're annoying. No, which I don't disagree with big T. They are. Republicans are annoying. But like all politicians are annoying. Like there's a lot of losers. I guess. Let me ask you, let me ask you about it this way, like just looking back, like what we're sitting today, like I'm not asking you to like join the k-high, put on a hat, like Democrats are going to get you forever, like you're going to be going to the convention. It's like that. I just mean like when you're just making choices, I mean the two parties, like you have to make a choice between two candidates, right? Like a lot of times they're not perfect choices. Like looking back, you don't feel like man, maybe just sitting it out would have been better than Trump at this point. I mean, personally, I don't think, you know, I vote, but I don't think it makes a difference. Yeah, I don't think, but not necessarily. Do you think you'd feel like things would be worse with Kamala or better? I'm not trying to do it. Gotcha. I'm like just trying to understand your perspective so I can answer the question. I think worse, but not tangibly, probably about the same. I could never vote for a Democrat who like, I just, I could never vote for someone like that. What? A Democrat who what? Who is vehemently opposed to my worldview. On what topics though? Like on social issues, economic foreign policy? I think economically it all kind of comes out in the wash at the end, but I, as an evangelical Christian, I find the current state of the Democratic Party just totally opposed to everything I believe. Got it. Yeah, no, they're probably not going to win you back then. That's where I wanted to get out. Which like, which, which element of the Democrats? I think that, I think that it is decently likely that the Democrats lesson from this last decade of losing to Trump is that the party becomes more economically populist like towards, maybe not all the way to like Bernie, but like that no matter who it is, they have more of a, you know, big government economic populist viewpoint. I think that they have a fight about this and I'm hoping that the side that tries to move to the middle unlike public safety stuff wins. Like I think the fund is gone. I think open borders are gone. Like I think it will obviously be more liberal immigration regime than this horrific one that Trump is doing. We're like deporting the wife of a fucking soldier. We deported the wife of a soldier this week. Crazy. And so they're not going to do that kind of stuff. But I think that like back to more of a more pro-border security type thing that the Democrats had 20 years ago, 30 years ago. But I think there's social issues and cultural issues stay the same. I just don't think it's possible for the Democrats to moderate on any of the, you know, whatever LGBT religious like anything that you put in that bucket, I think they'll stay progressive. So I think I don't exactly know, you know how that looks, there'll be different kinds of Democrats will be different in fighting. But to me, that seems like the most likely kind of reaction to what has happened like moving a little left on economy, moving a little right on like immigration and crime. That's actually what I wanted to ask you about. I saw a clip of you talking to, I don't remember her name. It was a lady where you were defending, I'm not necessarily defending, but you were kind of going back and forth on Hassan. Yeah. Yeah. So, along those was an intra-boltwork fight. I was like, I'm not, well, I'm not like pro-Hassan, but I was saying like the Democrats need to like listen to the critiques and engage with the critiques from like the anti-war left. And she was like, nah, that guy's anti-Semitic and engaged with it. And that's, I don't know where she lands on the political spectrum. I figure she was somewhere moderate to right. Yeah. Well, she's like a moderate, I mean, she's a moderate. She's a centrist. She's a functioning Democrat now because I think that a lot of like the center, there are two types of moderate. Here's the thing where this conversation gets broken down. There's like the breaking points type of moderate. It's like I'm left on war, you know, and like left on economic stuff, but like I'm right on social stuff. You know what I mean? Like that kind of viewpoint. And then there's like the more traditional what people think of as moderate. It's like, fiscally conservative, socially liberal, you know, strong military. Like that's really more Sarah. Got you. Okay. So, so what was interesting about the discussion, which is it's kind of my viewpoint about because I'm like way farther left than you are. But what I found intriguing about what you were telling her was you were like, it's what it's kind of it's kind of what I say. Like, none of the candidates are ever going to satiate any of my political beliefs, right? But I think it's a very myopic worldview to think that every single one of your viewpoints is going to be massaged with a single candidate. It's just not going to happen, right? And so, and so I always play the lesser of two evils. And I feel like that's that's the goal of a society is to continually herd, you know, creep towards whatever it is that you feel is the betterment of society. And what I feel like has happened on the left is you have moderate Democrats that refuse to engage with somebody who's left as a son. And I feel like that's what made Trump the populist that he is, is that he brought the far right and the moderate right in a way that they can have a conversation with each other and and converge and say, Hey, we need to win these elections. And I think that we don't have that on the left. And I don't really see that happening. So I was going to kind of get your your viewpoint on that. Yeah, I worry about it too, man. And I do think that I think both sides are to blame. I think like the far left, I don't know exactly what do you mean why your views are far left like you're socialist or something like socialist. So I I'm not a capitalist. I'm probably anti capitalist. But I understand I work like I'm not like anti capitalist in a sense of like a demonized business owners and stuff like that. We all have to operate under the system. So you're not like pro Luigi. No, I don't think you should murder people. No, Tim, remember when you went on you went on KFC show and you were very surprised to learn that everyone who works here aside like four people are radical leftist. This is the thunderdome. Okay, you're in you're in it. No, I'm loving it. I mean, I think KFC was was was milking things. I promise you he's not a fair way to describe would be like most people here don't care. Most people don't want to like, they don't want to think about it. They don't want to think about politics, which I completely and totally understand. And then outside of the people that are ambivalent about it, you have people that it's probably like pretty equal. I'd say like 5050 that I think about 50. Yeah, but I'd say you have a majority. I can name you every conservative at this company on my hands. It's because you got a banger of a group chat. A couple of them are a couple of them are in secret. So I won't name them. Let's just make tea. What was the Trump Kamala percentage? Like if if if Barstool decided 70, 30, like who would 70 30, I don't I don't think so. 100. I also think that you'd have like 65 70 percent of people abstaining from voting. Like I'd say the that's probably that might be accurate, but of the ones who voted she was in the lead for sure. I think it'd be close. I would answer Aaron's question because like I think that my view and I feel like I can do this because I'm an outsider. I was like never a blib. And so like I'm just looking at this as an analyst. Like both sides are fucking to blame in the Democratic Coalition. Like the DSA lefty types are so mean to the establishment Dems. Like they give them no credit for fucking anything. Like Joe Biden and Kamala could not have done anything and gotten credit. Like they just shit on them all the time. And so like obviously the listeners of those shows don't think the Democrats are weak because they get shit on all the time. And then the moderate Dems like won't even engage with the far left Dems. And like they just call names and you know whatever. And like say they're terrorists and anti-Semites. So it's like so it's it's happening in both ways. And you got to figure out how to make it work. And like my view is that Kamala got into the sour spot and like the Democratic Coalition were like lefty types thought that she was a corporate shill and like centrist types like my people like thought she was like a California liberal and were like holding their nose for her and they're like whatever. And so she was kind of in the wrong place for both. And like to be six like Obama ended up being on the right place for both because he was so skilled. Right. Like the lefty people were like oh he was the anti-war cool. Like he's a lefty. And then the moderate people were like oh he's doing the there's there's no red states. There's no blue states or the United States thing. He's like a uniter guy. That's cool. You know. And so it didn't work on everybody like that in full big T or Fox people. But like within the coalition everybody was like felt like they were represented. You know. And like that has not happened since him. Hillary or Kamala can do that. And I think that that's the challenge for the next Dem is like figure out how to do that in a weird way. Like Zoran is kind of doing it. Like Zoran again. He's not right wing people aren't. He's not winning over any of them. Like within the coalition like the DSA types like hell yeah Zoran. And I'm just noticing in my world a lot of centrists are like man like he's doing some like Yimbi stuff and like cutting red tape. And like he is like trying to sound normal anytime somebody like asks him about whatever from the river to the sea and all the stuff like he's going out of his way to like reach out. And like he came on my show and like talked a lot like you know did some shit where he sounded like fucking he could have sounded like Jeb in 2015 talking about cutting red tape and making things more efficient. And you know so like he's it's only been three months like he might end up doing some crazy shit that that undermines this. But I do think that's like the challenge like figuring out if you're a Democrat like how do you let the left wing people say no that like maybe you don't agree with them on everything but like they can be excited about you because you really agree with them on Medicare for all or Israel or whatever while also not coming off like an insane woke you know extreme leftist to the people in the middle. That's tough. I think a lot of people's problem with Kamala was the fact that nobody really had a true sense of what she actually believed in. It always seemed like her finger was in the air like checking and making sure that she was saying the right thing. Like she was very concerned about like the results of her last focus group. Right. And I think people are willing to overlook certain things in candidates as long as we believe that the person that's running authentically believes the stuff that they're saying that can go a long way to covering up a bad candidate. And speaking for myself at least I never got that sense from Kamala that she had like a set ideology that she truly believed in. I always felt like everything that she said was liable to change if somebody told her that it would gain her five points. Yeah man. And some people just have that and some people don't like is being able to like Trump is obviously a bullshitter you know. But yet some people feel like in some way they're getting his real sense you know essence right. Like even though he's bullshitting them like he has. He's a good performer. And like she just didn't have that. But like even when she was being genuine I think the people like you had that perception. There's maybe some misogyny there but other women candidates have not had that problem. Jeb kind of had that problem. He's a man you know. So it's like I don't know. But I hear that man. And I got to hang out there a little bit in private. And I say this like I do not mean this as slagging her because like I liked Kamala. Like I liked her. I understand people's complaints about her but like I personally liked her. And it was the easiest vote I ever made picking her over Trump. But like even in private sometimes with politicians like people always said about Hillary I've never met her in private. That like in public she was very stiff and seemed fake and then in private like she was cool and chill and she just couldn't figure out how to do it. And like I had some candidates like that. That was not Kamala. Like in private she was the same. Like I just think that she's kind of like a kind of maybe maybe in private with loved ones she's different or something. But like I just think she's kind of a cautious person. And it presented that way. And I don't know. I don't know if that's fixable. You know. Yeah. I don't think that is. It's funny to hear people talk about Hillary Clinton the same way that we talked about Belichick for years. Like he's actually really funny if you get him behind the scenes like you said in meeting and now we're seeing now we're seeing the truth. Like you know Belichick lets it rip behind the scenes. If she stepped out with like a 24 year old hunk of a man in this part of this era that would be funny. Big T do you have anything else like any other topics that you wanted to get into with him because I know you were you had a few things you were looking for. A few more. What issue will define the next election now that Trump is gone. Because now that that cult of personality to whatever extent it's removed is removed from the ballot at least like you said he's still posting. But yeah like it seems like there will have to be more issues based discussions. Yeah. I think number one we don't exactly know what's going on with AI and like the and how much that develops and changes like big tech tech oligarch stuff tech control of our society I think is going to be one of them. And then the other one this is really an issue. So I don't try to duck your question because it could be a couple of different things but it's like I think the big fissure the big fight will be over like the America first voter next time. And in the tradition in the sense of not like capital America first Trump fan but like I care about the American homeland like you see this lot in Manusphere stuff Tim Dillon type strogan types like I want to I want us I want the president care about Americans first. Like I thought that Trump was going to do that. He got us into all that he ended up caring about like himself and other rich guys and Venezuela and Iran and the ballroom and and I think that like the Democrats are going to put up somebody to try to like you know maybe pitch a different type of America first. It's more like you know I want health care for people. I want you know people to be able to have childcare you know that that side of it. And so I don't exactly know like where the fault lines will be on that maybe it'll be on health care maybe it'll be on war. A lot of it will depend on like how the next two years ago. But like I think that that will be the new like my people were the swing voter for a while like the college educated suburban Republican you know the Democrats are trying to win over. I think that the new swing voter will be kind of like the Marjorie Taylor Green Tim Dillon world. And then if you've never interviewed Trump right. No we shouted at each other in a spin room one time. He told me I give a job with Jeb and then yeah I was asking him about how he was about how this was in 16. So it was like he was still a business guy back then about how all of his ties and products were made in China and how he's fake America first and he started shouting at me and I shouted at him. So no we never actually had an interview. So if you could interview him just totally off the record not even to put out you're just talking to him. What would you want to ask him? Man this is interesting. I thought about this the other day because his phone number was going around and somebody gave me his phone number and like random people are calling him. And I was just like I don't want to call him because he's gonna bullshit and like I don't you know if I don't have time like it would only be worth it if I could really sit down and like do 45 minutes and like dig in with him on one topic and like just be like you know hey like try to get through his bullshit because he's so good at bullshitting. What topic? He's just so good and I think it would be right now like the family business like the crypto. I just think there are so many fucking questions. I think we don't know anything like about how that's going and he might not even really know a lot but like that's the thing you know why is he letting Jared you know Jared is running around making his kids are running around. You can't tell me he doesn't know. You can't tell me he doesn't care about all that stuff so I probably want to interview him about that. I reserve the right to change my mind on this because I'm just going off the top of my head but that's what I would think. What would you pick Big T? What would you pick? I guess I like you said if he had just sat here for the last year and kind of just hung out like what is the need to do all this? Like the war in Iran nobody's for it. Like I don't know anyone that's in favor so like if I know plenty of you know Trump policies that were unpopular that I knew people who were in favor of them. This one I don't I've I've yet to see a person so I just I would want to know why because it seems like you're doing yourself and your party and the country an incredible disservice that's totally self-inflicted. Yeah yeah I mean if I was talking to him today yeah that's him that feels like that feels right too. So yeah I don't know I'd be more interested in debating JD. He's less or interviewing him because he's less good of a bullshitter and I feel like we could really you know I feel like JD would try to at least engage me. Like I feel like we could have a real back and forth for like if I had to pick between the two I'd definitely pick him because I feel like we could sit down for 90 minutes and like really like hash shit out and like I just think Trump is a wall of bullshit. I don't know people get mad like Maggie Haberman or some of these guys like liberals get mad at them for like you're not harder on him in these interviews and it's just like how do you how do you deal with it you know I mean he's just a force and like just says whatever he wants and so it's like I don't know the value of the interview is a little lower with that. Next time his cell phone goes around you can feel free to send it to me. I might still be the same one. I'd be happy to reach out to President Trump and and entertain a dialogue with him. Well how would your interview compare with Josh Pates? I think it'd probably be pretty similar we'd cover a lot of the same stuff actually it's probably pretty pointless for me to do it because I think yeah Pates did most of my shit already so no I mean I love that people I love that he was like I love the Bros like I just he's really he's a serious college football fan and so I just really want to talk to him about college football. I was like man like Trump Trump isn't a fucking serious you know like come on man like Trump can't talk to you about the depth. He doesn't like Army Navy says it's bad football and he's got notions he has the TV on in the background like but I think I probably just talked to him. He probably just talked Masters which by the way I tweeted this out. He could talk golf dude. Yeah he could talk golf. I tweeted out yesterday but it should have been a big big red sign for everybody to not panic on Monday that like he is not going to blow up the world before the Masters. He is at the very he's going to wait till after they put the green jacket on maybe he's probably going to take a nap wake up Monday morning then he's gonna be like okay now we can start the war like that man is locked in on golf. It was never going to happen this week. Dude that was such a good choice. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it when I'm jealous. I think it's true though because that's that's my artistic canvas is X.com and so when somebody just really mocks me like that on on Twitter I get jealous. I think that one is actually 100% true and also you look a little bit like Rory McElroy. Has anyone ever told you that? Dude I hear this all the time and it's I have two reactions to it like number one like my initial reaction is I am so flattered because like Rory's hot but then when I say that like my next reaction is like that's kind of weird. Do I love myself? Like do I want to kiss my you know what I mean? Like do I need to see therapy about this that I find Rory detractive and so I get a lot. My younger brother youngest brother like even looks more like him. Like my youngest brother is like very Rory. We're half Irish half Lebanese so I guess he got more of the Irish side but yeah there's something there's something there somewhere up there in the chain. I think you're allowed to be attracted to yourself. Nothing or Arod was very attracted to himself he did well. Yeah that's true but that's not nobody's trying to aspire to be like Arod. I don't know I look down at the gay couples that are twinsy couples. I don't know there's just something that feels wrong about it to me. I can't put my finger on why it's kind of like you're both not in it for each other. You're kind of both in it for yourself and this is the best you can do. Yeah because cloning doesn't exist yet. All right well Aaron you got anything else for Tim that you want to get into? Um no uh I appreciate you coming on brother. Dude guys this is so great um and yeah get on down here. I didn't know big detail in the green room. I've been so locked in on the LSU home schedule this year because we got Bama, we got Texas. That's just an unbelievable home slate Clemson to open the season that I really like hadn't thought about the away schedule but we're in Tennessee so maybe we can do a hell of a man on the street video at that game if you want to go. Yeah I'm interested or you could do one of the or you could do one of Baton Rouge we should talk about it but I'm interested and I would love to hang out with you guys. I would love to get back down to Baton Rouge. I think I'm going to be there for it might be Alabama week. Is Alabama in Baton Rouge this year? Bama's in Baton Rouge November 7th. We got Bama, Texas, Clemson and I pick A&M on the home slate. At Ole Miss with the lame payback. Dude I mean it's like it's an unbelievable schedule this year. I wish that we had a more boring president so I could like really focus on my tailgating and just like LSU podcast content rather than politics. I think I'm going to be down there for Alabama week. I think we might be doing something at Fred's. Yeah I don't it might not be set in Stonia but that's the week that we're looking at so if uh if we're down. Keep me posted. I want to do I've been like um well this is a little dark. I don't mean to end on a dark thing but like after the Charlie thing like I got I got really I was like really affected by Charlie getting shot and like a couple months later I was like you know I want to do the inverse like in like not like in his honor but like I think it would be cool because you don't have that. There's not really an example of like a lib going to Ole Miss and letting Ole Miss kids yell at him in the way that Charlie did on live camp is this and I think I feel like that would be fun but I don't exactly know how to execute it uh and so I don't know I'll take thoughts on you from that. I'm gonna uh make an overlap overlap that with one of the games. I'm gonna think through on that one. That could be very funny. That could be funny. All right well I'll pull up on you. Thank you thank you for joining us Tim. You can find him the bowl. Guys. Check him out uh online. He's everywhere. YouTube shorts. He's probably already affected your algorithm uh so you know more ready. If not uh if not I've infected it now. All right appreciate you all. Go Tigers. All right go Tigers. Thank you Tim. Stell Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here crafted with 100% Colombian coffee. 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But I mean he said more or less. Yeah but this was what I was confused about was I wanted to ask him. I was like okay are you just anti-Trump in the sense that you banging for anybody else on the left right now and so like when he has a Republican candidate that he feels like representing more are you gonna go back to that side or have your ideals changed to the sense of like economically I'm left leaning socially I'm left leaning like whatever. I was gonna ask that too but it sounded to me like he was not just you know waiting on another Republican. I think he's I did that's what I'm the other side. Also you don't name your publication The Bulwark and like what is that I don't even know what that means. It's like a like a fortress like a wall. Make the correlation. I don't like like like stopping Trump like we are the fortress. That's what I'm saying is it is how like political identity is kind of built on anti-Trump with Trump's regress. I have too but I like him though. Good guy. I would love to love to go to the UT LSU game. That would be a fun little street if we could do that though for sure. Well you're in good to have you back. Me too. Great master's jacket. Yep fun weekend. I can't I can't wait to partake in the festivities this week. It's gonna be fun. All right who you got do we say who you got. Well I have I have a future I've said on this show before but I had it it was the U.S. to win the hockey gold medal Michigan to win the national title and Scotty Masters 65 to one. Did you do that. Did you do that parlay. Yeah so we're two for three. So if Scotty wins I win a nice chunk of money. Yeah should be fun. Have a good weekend. We'll see you back here on Tuesday I presume. Yeah man. Yeah apologies to the Macadosh. I had a lot going on. We didn't get it too into it too much of this show but I was in my own golf tournament had to prep for that. I had some NFL business I had to take care of some like exams I had to go through. 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