We Weren’t Lucky, We Were Prepared: Drea Nicole and Lex P Share Their Success Secrets

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. This week, we're catching up with the masterminds behind Poor Minds, Lex and Drea. Lex and Drea have built a media empire through their humor, candor, authenticity, and work ethic. And even as their success has blossomed, they've been able to keep their friendship front and center growing together. Today, we're sitting down to talk about friendship, business, and how to prepare for the luck you're creating to keep you inspired throughout your lucky girl summer and beyond. Lex and Trey, welcome to She's So Lucky. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. We're happy to be here. I'm so excited to have you. Thank you for making the time while you're in New York. Of course. So I would love to start off by hearing about a moment each of you felt lucky recently. You know what? For me, I felt lucky whenever the tour tickets went on sale and they sold out very quickly because I think one of the hardest parts about touring is selling the tickets. And I know last tour that we went on, it was like a lot of marketing that we had to do because like once you drop the tickets, the second step is marketing and making sure the tickets are selling. So honestly, we saved a lot of time and stress by just the listeners supporting us because a lot of the cities sold out almost immediately. So that was my moment of like feeling lucky because I'm like, oh, we don't got to do a lot of promotion. Yeah. So, yeah. I would say for me, it's something non-business related, but I have been contemplating for like the past few months about upgrading my car. And then my 35th birthday came up and I was kind of like, hmm, do I want to do that as like a birthday gift to myself? And I was thinking about it and I was about to hit up my homeboy that works at the car dealership. And I ended up looking through my email and I had already got a pre-approval. Yeah, I had already got a pre-approval from Lane Rover. So I was like, oh, my God, this is a sign. And sometimes I be going back and forth about like, OK, is it lucky or am I just blessed? You know, yeah. Or maybe both. Both for sure. But yes, I wanted to do that. And then, yeah, so I just upgraded my car and I pick it up when I get back to it. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. We love a new car moment. Yes, girl. Thank you. Yes. Also love selling out shows because it's like one thing to put something out there on the internet and it's like, okay, yeah, people like it. That's cool. But when people are willing to show up in person, it just is so much more special. Right. When the community really shows up like that. Yeah. I think like seeing the people and actually getting to talk to them face to face and them letting us know how much we mean to them and just showing like the impact that we've made on a lot of women's well just people in general a lot of their lives it just it means a lot to us it does yeah I definitely think that sometimes like when I'm running into people because I'm always going on walks outside in Atlanta in my area that I live in and I stay running into people that listen to the show and I literally am always thinking wow how lucky am I that I get to encounter people on a daily basis who are always pouring into me and telling me how much I impact their lives. Because I think, you know, we're all human. So sometimes we're not in the best mood or you might be having a rough day. And so when you can run into people and they constantly remind you, they're like, OK, maybe I am doing something right and I am on the right path. Yeah, it's the best feeling. It is. Yeah. Have you guys ever had somebody stop you and be like, oh, I love the show? And it's kind of unexpected because I've had that happen with like dudes where they're like, oh I and I'm like she's so like I'm not talking to you but if you like it I love it yeah yeah that definitely happens to us a lot now like I think in the earlier stages of the show it was more women that were listening to the show than men but now I honestly think that it's balanced out a lot because we get so many men that are walking up to us telling us that they love the show and even women will tell us girl my man put me on to y'all like he was listening to y'all first because I think that a lot of men like the show because it gives them insight into how women think and things that we wouldn't necessarily tell them or say to them like locker room girl locker room talk and I think that that's why they enjoy it a lot oh they do it gives them good insight it does and I feel like men who are willing to engage in media led by women are actually really smart in that way like I'm a big romance novel reader I love and I'm like more of you men need to be reading these romance novels because you will learn so much about what we think and what we like and what we want. So it's like the smart ones. And I think it helps with their emotional intelligence as well to understand like how women feel and our emotional responses to things and why we react to things that way. And it makes them a little more, maybe compassionate as well when they like hear our sides to things. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. So I would love to go back a bit because with the work that you two do, your friendship is really at the core of it. And I think for a lot of people have this idea of I would love to start something with my best friend. I would love to work with my friend. But there can be a lot of dynamics that can be challenging in that. So I'd love to hear more about how you maintain having such a healthy friendship while also working together so closely. I think for us, we always say this, like we're OK with having uncomfortable conversations. And I think a lot of times what people try to do online is put up a front, just like how they have relationship goals. Everybody wants to be friendship goals and they want to pretend to be something that they're really not. And I think me and Dre have always been honest. We talk about the times we didn't get along in the past and we talk about friendship a lot on the show. It's not just so, oh, driven for relationships and things like that. So I think for us, we've just always been honest and real and people can respect that. And we've done a good job of separating the business and our friendship. Like if we're going through something personally, we're not going to get on in front of the cameras and be like, oh, I'm not talking to her. No, we're going to still have these conversations and create the poor mind's energy that we always do. Or if we're having a disagreement with the business, we're still going to happy hour, child. We got drinks to drink, you know what I'm saying? So we just don't let one bleed into the other. And I think we're at the point now where we're like family. Like this is like my sister. We always say it's like a marriage, you know, we have our ups and our downs. But for me, I don't want to speak for Drea, but for me, the ups have completely outweighed the downs. So it's an easy decision And it's fun for me to continue to do this, you know, and I think we don't have any ego when it comes to each other either. But kind of piggyback off of that, too. I think it's just important to like not be afraid to have the hard conversations with your friends as well. A lot of times people shy away from that. They're like, oh, I don't want to have like any confrontation or I don't want to have any difficult discussions because I feel like it's going to affect the friendship. I actually think it affects your friendship more when you don't talk about things because it's a lot of resentment and like feelings that people are harboring on the inside that they're not getting out. So one thing that I think that's really important that we both do is that whenever we're having an issue with one another, we have the conversation. Yeah, it's super important because I feel like that also makes your friendship stronger when you're actually able to work through conflict. I know when I like fall out or fight with my friends, when we come out on the other side, we're such better friends. But when you just avoid it altogether, there is like a lack of depth. You just never reach. And it's like, I don't know. I don't like being around my friends and feeling like I got to walk on eggshells or it's like, ooh, I didn't tell her or she didn't tell me something. And I think another component, too, is like we both have businesses outside of Poor Minds. And I see a lot of times when friends have a business together and they each start other endeavors like they don't support their other businesses. And I think we've always been super supportive of what we do outside of Poor Minds as well. And it's like a lot of times you see people be in competition with their friends secretly. And I don't think that, well, not I don't think, I know that's not the dynamic here with us. It's like we're not a competition. We're a team. Yeah. I also feel like the secret competition thing, it's like never secret. Because even if they don't say it, you can always feel it. You can tell. Yeah, it's obvious. You can always feel it. Like, I feel like I've had definitely my share of a lot of friendships that are like that. And like, no matter how much people try to make it seem like it's not like you said, it's like you could tell in the energy. You could tell by how they move. You could tell by when they don't really be happy for you and certain things happen. It's just always there. And I think us as women, naturally, we're just, you know, very intuitive. So we be knowing men sometimes. I don't know if they be knowing when they friends be jealous of them as much as we do. But we be knowing because we had a women's instinct in our good. Exactly. We're able to watch, too, because it's like when somebody else is winning, that doesn't take away from your shine at all. It's like there's enough wins to go around. So I never understood like being jealous or not clapping for somebody when they're doing well in life is very obvious. Like she said, you can tell when somebody is like not happy for somebody close in their circle. Yeah. And it's like, don't you want to see your friends also winning? Like you want good things for them as much as you want it for yourself. And I also don't want to be around people that are like losers. That's what I'm saying. I don't like being around no loser ass people. Like, yes, I want everybody to be doing something. I want everybody to be winning. We should all be supporting each other. But sadly, like, no, it's a lot of people out there that don't want people around them doing well. Or they want you to do well until you're doing better than them. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they be clapping until you get to a point to where y'all even either on the same playing field or you moving up. Yeah. Have you had experiences like that with people? And how do you navigate it when you get that feeling? I have. And it's sad to say. And I think sometimes that's why it takes a lot for me to make new friendships, not in a way of it's not hard for me to become cool with people, Like obviously in passing or surface level friendships, but like relationships that have a lot of depth and we're really getting to know each other, spending a lot of time together. I'm telling you my business. I'm being vulnerable with you. It takes a lot for me to be that way in a lot of my friendships because I've had so many of those experiences in the past. So I think it kind of makes it easy for you to shut it off and close yourself off emotionally. but honestly I don't know if I've handled it the best in the past because my way to handle it was always to just cut people off yeah but then I also kind of feel like if people are showing you those type of signs isn't that the best thing to do yeah like what what do you keep them around what's the other option right but you know some people love to say like cutting people off all the time isn't always the answer like maybe having a conversation with someone but I think that if it's a deeper rooted jealousy and envy inside of people and they're not really happy for you I don't think that's something that could be healed with a conversation because I don't think it's going to change. Even if they tell you it will, maybe they'll stop showing it so much, but I don't think the feelings internally for them are going to change. And you got to watch people like that because those are the type of people that will hurt you. It's true. It's true. I had a situation like that. I don't think I've dealt with that as much as she has in her friendships. You know what? Maybe I have or haven't. I feel like sometimes I'm very green when it comes to things like that because I just be happy to be around. I'd be happy to have my friends and things. So I had a friendship that kind of dissolved whenever the podcast started doing well. And it was just, it was, it was weird for me because it was like somebody I was constantly clapping for, like constantly. And when it was time for, you know, this person to clap for me, like it wasn't reciprocated and it was very, it was hurtful, you know? And for me, it was kind of like everybody around me was kind of like, I told you so because I told you this person was going to do that. It was like multiple people and you'd be thinking, okay, they're not going to do that to me though. I'm different. They're not going to do that to me until it was done to me. So for me, it was kind of like a situation where like she had cut me off and I don't even do nothing, you know? So it was definitely an adjustment and I'm learning to create those boundaries and just pay attention to the red flags. You know, we always talk about red flags and relationships, but we don't really talk about them in friendships as well. So it was definitely a lesson learned for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Red flags and friendships is a hard one. I feel like I'm still learning how to spot that. Really? Yeah. Yeah, girl. Because the signs be there. I think we all just kind of dismiss it and be like, oh, well, maybe they're not so bad. Or maybe they're just going through something. But then sometimes, no, that's just how the person is. And you're just giving them the benefit of the doubt. You need to start doubting the benefit of the person. It's true. They haven't earned the benefit of the They had me. 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And I was like, that was really weird. And it was just like, oh, you want to be on the phone? And it was like, I guess because the guy she was dating wasn't answering the phone. It was just, it was so weird. But at the time I just kind of like brushed it off. I think a red flag is like watching their reactions to whenever you're happy, having happy moments, watch how they treat their other friends. Because I was watching this person kind of talk to her other friends crazy. And I was like, that's kind of weird, you know? so I think it's like you have to definitely watch how they treat you and they try to cover it up with jokes and watch how they treat their other friends for sure yeah yeah that's a good one I would say like lack of support lack of support for sure but then you supporting your other friend like your other friend she done started a business she done sold two bottles of whatever it is that she selling and you on your story like yes girl I love it boss bitch but then you know I'm over here selling out shows and you're not saying nothing is quiet and that's like a hypothetical situation but just saying you know I think it's a lot of people that are in friendships where the support isn't being reciprocated and you have to pay attention to that especially if you are a supportive friend and you always show up for your friends you buy whatever they're selling you promote whatever they're doing and then when it comes to you the energy not there that's a major red flag and when I was younger I didn't pay as much attention to those things as I needed to, because I think it's just my moral compass and who I am as a person to just show up for my friends. Like if you my friend and you somebody that I consider to be close and you my girl and I fuck with you, I'm going to always show up for you in any way that I can. But I've noticed over the years, just because I'm that friend, it isn't going to automatically make other people that same way. And so I've just learned to start telling people no more too. Yeah. Because I think that's when you start to feel burnt out. When you're constantly like, okay, yeah, I'll do it. Even when you don't feel like it and you know they might not want to do it and they just say no. So it's like, okay, I'm going to start saying no too. Yeah. Yeah. When you're overextending. Yeah. I feel like one of the most helpful things for me in learning boundaries is being around people with boundaries. I'm like, oh, okay, say less. Yeah. I can say no too. Exactly. I can do that too. Yeah. Yeah. Lesson learned. Exactly. But it's easier said than done too. When you love people, you just be like, okay, I'm going to start setting more boundaries. Yeah. And then when I ask you, be like, all right, not to eat. Yeah, exactly. I feel like it's also hard to be that person who people always assume is good. It's like, oh, she's good. She got it. That's why I'm not like celebrating that thing because she always has so much to celebrate or she always has whatever X, Y, Z. And it's like even the person who you think has it or is always winning or still behind the scenes, there's always something. Everybody wants to still feel appreciated. And I think we deal with that a lot just because, I mean, not to toot our own horn, but, you know, we've been experiencing a lot of wins lately. But, you know, all this love that we're getting, it still feels nice for our friends to be like, man, I see you and I'm proud of you. Like one of my best friends, shout out to B. Lynn, she sent me this like sweet paragraph this morning. And it's like stuff like that means a lot because we get caught up in work a lot, like traveling, filming in between, doing press, doing interviews and stuff. So it's nice to somebody be like, man, you work so hard. Just know that I see you and I'm proud of you. So that means a lot coming from our friends and our family versus, you know, of course, the listeners are going to be like, oh, my gosh, they're going on tour. They're doing amazing things like that. But when people close to you recognize that versus being like, oh, they get enough love. They don't need to hear it from me. It's a different feeling for sure. Yeah, especially if they saw what it took or they saw what season you were in before that, you know, you would think that they would appreciate where you've gotten that much more. But then sometimes it can be like a mirror to people who are maybe still in that place, which is why I think sometimes when people feel like they're in a season of winning and the people closest to them aren't as happy for them. I think that's a lot of what it is. Oh, 100 percent. You hit the nail on the head when you said that, because I've been through those situations as well where I knew for a fact it was just the season that the person was in. It made it hard for them to be happy for what I had going on. But then also, what does that say about you internally as a person? Because you should still be able to clap for others even when it's not your winning season, because just because it's mine, it doesn't mean that yours isn't coming. and I don't believe that a lot of people recognize how important it is to have that mentality to get to your winning season if you're constantly unhappy for people it's never gonna happen for you because you have that negative energy why is God gonna bless that yeah it's so true yeah and I can attest to that because when I was at my lowest with my three dollars in my account job wasn't going nowhere I mean I had nothing relationship was bad everything was just going bad I was still showing up for people, clapping for people, reposting me like, man, I'm so proud. I was showing up for everybody constantly. And I always like my mom always told me when you put good energy in the world, you have it has no choice but to give that back to you. I've always clapped for people no matter where I'm at mentally, because I always knew that my time was coming. You know what I mean? So if you can't clap for people like it's like she said, it's never going to be your turn. So it's like I try to understand that like, oh, maybe they're not in a good space in their life. That's why they can't clap for me. But I was that person at one time. So it's kind of like you want to give people grace. But at the same time, I've been there. So it's like you're just a nasty person at that point. I would love to also talk to you guys about this idea of creating our own luck, because that's like what the show is really about. This idea that the same way we put good energy out there and it can come back to us, there's also like a lot of things that we can do to kind of position ourselves. or luck. So I would also love to hear about earlier in your journey, if you felt like there was a moment that was really a catalyst of either something that you did or decisions that you made that you feel like really set you up to be where you are now. And that can be individually or together. I've always been an overly optimistic person to the point of delusion. I truly believe most people around me have always thought I was delusional just because of the things that I truly believe that I could attain and no real foundation for believing that I could attain it other than just believing that I could do it. It's nothing that I can't have. It's nothing that I can't get, especially if I put my mind to it. And having that mindset has got me really far in life because I always believe that I can get whatever it is that I want. I always attract the things that I want. Of course, working hard and being diligent about my goals as well. But it's also just the belief in self and the confidence that I have in myself to know that it's nothing in this world that I can see and that I can visualize that I can't actually grasp in real life if I put my mind to it. And I truly believe my life is a testament of that. It's a lot of people on my Instagram page who have been following me since high school, since college, since my early 20s. And they're always like, girl, you have always said that you wanted to live a certain life and you wanted to do certain things and you're doing everything that you said you would do. Because I put my mind to it and I never let outside noise deter me. I think that's very important. It's going to be a lot of people around you that are going to try to tell you what you can't accomplish. And sometimes it's not even because they hating, it's projection because they don't believe that they can do it. They don't have enough belief in self. And so people are always constantly projecting, trying to tell you what you can't do. Don't pay attention to none of that because while you can't do it, you have all of the tools that you need within yourself to accomplish everything that you want to accomplish. And God didn't give them the vision. He gave it to you. So state of course. And I think I'm kind of the same. I can't pinpoint one thing, but I think just because this is my path I was supposed to be on. And whenever the opportunity presented itself, everything from us going on 85 South or me moving to Atlanta, you know, me figuring out how to edit things and conversations that we've had that went viral or whatever the case. I think whenever that opportunity presented itself to us, we were prepared for it because God prepared us for this our entire lives, you know. So I just believe that it's a little bit of luck and blessing mixed with hard work because if the opportunity presents itself and you're not ready, it's not going to happen. And I think that we were just ready. We are very driven individuals and we both know what we wanted out of life, like always wanted to be in media and doing something. So I think for me, I was just always prepared. Whenever my moment came, I always believed, OK, I'm gonna get one shot. And when I get that one shot, I just need an opportunity. And once somebody gives me a chance, I'm going to bust that door down and make it happen. That's the mindset I've always had. So when me and Dre had got the opportunity to show the world what we had, they let us in the door and we're like, oh, we're here now. You know what I'm saying? So it was a lot of opportunities that we had that it was more so of being prepared rather than luck, I would say. We've always been prepared. Yeah. I love that way. I love both of your responses. I'm like, I want to dig into both of this. I'm like, let me readjust in my booster seat. My feet still aren't touching the ground. Y'all are just kicking with excitement. Y'all are excited. I know. I'm like, this is my favorite stuff to talk about. Okay, Lex, let's start with you. Can we talk a little bit more about this idea of preparation and what preparation looked like for you? It's funny because I think with me, it's just how I was raised. Like, I grew up around a family. I grew up in a small town and I was the kid that was like, okay, y'all, everybody sit down. I'm finna perform for y'all. And then my mom's like, go ahead, baby. Y'all better pay attention to my baby. She finna perform for y'all. So I think just growing up around people who nurtured that about me and my sister was kind of like, OK, girl, what you're going to sing for me today or what you're going to perform for me today? Like they were always nurturing my creativeness and me being outgoing. So I was just always ready when me and Drea became friends. She was just always laughing at me, being like, girl, you are so funny. Don't let people tell you that you're not funny. So having a village around me that just was like, yes, Lex, you can everything that you think you are. You're exactly that. So whenever these opportunities came, I was ready because they built that confidence up in me. I had people around me pouring into me, you know, and on top of that, I went to school for this. We both have our degrees in mass communications and journalism. So I was very prepared when the cameras came on. I was there. And also, a lot of times people don't realize where they feel like we're popping up everywhere. If you go online and look at our oldest video, we've been filming on YouTube since 2017. So it's not like we just started and we popped up here overnight. We have been working consistently for almost 10 years. So we were very prepared for the opportunities by just simply working, being consistent and showing up even when nobody was watching. So I think the point of being prepared was just I've literally been putting in work my entire life. Yeah. Putting in those reps. Yes. It's so important. You very, very, it's a skill. Everything is a skill that can be learned. And I think conversation is a skill. And we have mastered that. It's like if there's something, any kind of element that we want to add to the show, we're like, OK, we want to do this. Let's get good at it. Let's figure it out and work it out. You know what I mean? Even with performing on stage, being on stage and sitting on a couch is two totally different beasts. So that's another element that we were like, okay, we want to do this, but we want to make sure we can do it right. So a lot of times people just see us on the camera having fun, but it's like a lot of work goes into every little thing that we do, for sure. Exactly, exactly. And then, Drea, I want to come back to what you said about how you always had this sense of really strong self-belief. And you said a really good point in there where people who may try to knock you off of that aren't even necessarily hating per se, but it's just like they're speaking from their limited point of view. I think a lot of people let that get to them. Do you feel like you have kind of advice for people who feel like, oh man, these other people are getting in my head, but I know I have this vision for who I want to be. How would you encourage them to stick with it? I would just say, honestly, pray a lie. I mean, and obviously everybody isn't religious. So, I mean, that's my advice to people who are. I think you should pray a lot, be tuned in with God, but also write things down all the time. Like you have to write in your journal. You have to write your goals out because then a lot of time people don't realize the small progress that they're making because they're not tracking their progress. So it's like if you're writing down your goals, you will realize a year from now I did all of this that I didn't even realize that I did and that I set out to accomplish, but I wrote it down and I was checking it off as I was going. And so then when you have people around you, people don't, a lot of the time, people don't like to count the small wins. They only look at the big wins. So you could have like, if your goal was to start a podcast, okay, this year you started it. This year you ended up doing 52 episodes. You didn't miss a week. Your podcast might not have taken off yet, but you've stayed consistent and you stayed the course, that's still a step to get to where you're trying to go. So don't discredit yourself for that. Other people around you might be like, girl, you've been doing that for a year, but you still ain't making no money. The money gonna come. Just stay the course and just keep in mind what you have already done and give yourself a pat on the back for that because being consistent is the hardest thing that most people struggle with. That's why most people can't become successful because they can't stay consistent. So give yourself a pat on the back for the small wins and reward yourself for it too like if you check something off of your checklist go buy yourself something nice go take yourself to the spa go get a facial go do something nice for yourself because you are really I know that we do need community us as people we definitely need community but you also need to believe in yourself first community is nothing if you don't believe in yourself first that's so true yeah I also feel like that was a very tourist answer with the treat yourself. Because girl, let me tell you something. I don't deny myself any of the pleasures of life. Whatever I want, I'm going to go get it. Yes, I'm going to go get it. Because it makes me feel good. Because I'm like, yes, I checked off this big girl goal. I deserve a treat. And I'm going to go get it. It keeps you motivated. I need to be better about that. I tend to be a little too like frugal and too. I think like I could be served from like not being so strict. What's your sign? With myself. I'm a Leo. I was going to say, I'm the same way. And I've just started kind of like, okay, you deserve to do this for yourself. Because that's me. I'm the frugal one. I'm always like, I'm not doing that. I'm not spinning that. Let me see. So I've just started to do what Drea said. And just like, you know what? You deserve this. Clap for yourself. Pat on the back. Because I'm extremely hard on myself. And I'm like, okay, you're not doing enough. and like I'm like oh my gosh six months ago I was wanting to do what I'm doing now or reach this milestone that I wanted to reach now and I forgot because you know I wasn't writing it down I wasn't patting myself on the back so I'm the same way and I think we're like the exact same age we might be just like a couple days apart yeah I'll be 37 me too okay yeah 89 baby I know look at us but yes I don't know. I just I and I only I say that because I started doing that, I think, back in like 2020. After my dad passed away, I became really intentional about writing my goals down every quarter and then checking things off once, you know, I accomplished the goal. And it was 2021. I had wrote something down in my journal and then I went back and I checked it maybe six months later and I had accomplished it. And I didn't even realize until I went back and looked in my journal. You get what I'm saying? So that's why I think it's so important. And as far as like being frugal, too, I get where y'all coming from. Because I could be it's not that I'm cheap, but I like to put my money into things where it's going to grow, where it's going to make me more money. So what I like to do is as long as I handle my financial goals for that month and I've saved up a certain amount of money or I put a certain amount of money in the stock market, then I'm like, OK, I got a little money to play with. But I handled a business first and it makes me feel better about spending on leisure. Yeah. Because I'm like, I know I put this away so I can go play with this little money that I got live. Yeah. I feel like that's a good way to go about it, though. Because then it's like, OK, you're still hitting your goal. Right. You're not depriving yourself of, you know, first things first, but then you can still enjoy. Yeah. You got to handle the business first. I think that's where a lot of people mess up. They want to just go splurge and they don't be putting nothing to the side for a rainy day. You got to put some money to the side and make sure that you straight. You do. Because this economy, whoo, don't even get me started. It rough out here It is Especially when you entrepreneurial and it like things are up one minute down and you don know you have to like create that stability for yourself which is hard yeah because we've had months like that like I mean like you said being an entrepreneur it'll be months where you'll make like eight I mean not eight figures I was like what might we have like that we ain't there yet we ain't there yet but we have had six figure months we've had months where we've made six figures and then we've had months where we've made like five yeah and then when we made that five figures we had to pay everybody so we were like with zero yeah because you gotta make sure you pay your staff first we come last so yeah that's the thing about entrepreneurship the money fluctuates there's no set amount every month that you can depend on and that is part of the stability that I miss about having an actual job like you know you're gonna get that check every two weeks and you know exactly how much it's gonna be yeah exactly over and over like creating that stability for yourself. Right. It's really hard. It is. Yeah. Yeah. But I do enjoy it. I will say like me going back into the theme of feeling so lucky, like it's a lot of like scariness and, you know, being prepared and all this work. But when I say like every morning, like every morning, I just wake up and I really I thank God because I'm so blessed to be able to be doing what I love. And like sometimes and I mean, I don't mean to like be bragging or anything, but like sometimes we'll get a check. And I'm like, I used to literally work for two years to get a check like this. Like everything that I will make in two years is like this check that I'm getting for like one payment for something. So, you know, all the blood, sweat and tears and the stress and the anxiety is so worth it because I feel like me and Dre are doing what we were called to do. And it's like, all we want to do is just make people feel good and create a safe space for, you know, women and I guess men now because they're listening. 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I would also love to talk more about this tour that you're on right now and the real people that you're impacting, how that's been for you. Why touring and meeting your community is important to you? it's just a very surreal experience because it is one thing to post online and get the love and the comments and stuff but then the thing about online is just as much as you get good comments you get some bad ones sprinkled in there too and I don't know what it is about us as humans but we tend to focus on the bad more than the good so you can get a hundred good comments but you're gonna see them two bad ones you're gonna be like damn they hate me and so when you get to meet people in real life at a live show that you curated and that you produced and you put, like you said, your blood, sweat and tears into it. And then for people to show up and they paid their hard earned money, like I said, in this economy, that means so much to us that people would spend $70 to come see us at a show because I know times it's hard for a lot of people, but that's how much people support us. And it just feels really good because Lex and I really started this without a plan. Like we was just on the floor winging it. We didn't really know what it was going to be. You know, we didn't have much going on at the time professionally ourselves. So we was just like, what does it hurt to try this out and see where it goes? Because we would always run into people and they would tell us how entertaining our conversations were and how animated we were and that we needed to record it. So we was like, okay, we're going to sit down and recorded and then just to see eight almost eight years later that it's turned into this huge community of people it's just amazing when I meet people in real life and they're telling me how much we've impacted their life like it's nothing like it nothing I don't even know how to compare it to any other feeling it's just a different experience I think it's like two things for me it's like growing up it was like I was popular but I always kind of felt like I didn't fit in And it was just like, I never knew where I fit in in society because I was like, OK, I'm a beautiful woman, but I would rather hoot and holler like, you know, and it was just like I didn't know where I fit in. So for me, Andrea, when we created, you know, Poor Minds, it was like I found my community of people. Like I finally found a place where I fit in and I didn't have to be anything else. I could just be me. And people understood that. And I think even like she said with the negative comments, it's like we'll get online and we get a lot of love. But, you know, we do get some hate sometimes and we've had moments where we were getting canceled or whatever. And I was like, you know what? Let me just log off. And I went to an event and I was like, it was just so much love. And I think being in person with our community and people that are there for us, it reminds us, OK, you know what? We need to log off and touch grass because people love us in real life. And sometimes you need to feel that because we're still human. You know, like it's just like if you're in a long distance relationship and then you finally go and meet your man and get to see your man and hug your man like the poor crew, they my man. I love them down. So it's just like it's kind of like we're reunited again. I get to see them because we haven't been on tour in a while. So it's good to really gather and feel that love and that energy from, you know, the community that we've created. Yeah. Yeah. It's so true that especially on the Internet, in the comments, it's like people can say anything or it's very easy. if somebody like wants to leave like a nasty comment or whatever. But if someone is going to take the effort to come see you, it's because they really care and they want to be there and they want to be a part of what you're doing. Right. Which feels special. And I think sometimes when people leave comments, like you don't even know what type of day this person is having. Like that could be their last straw. Like you, and it's crazy because I feel like the internet is just like, y'all say y'all care about mental health, but do you really? Because you're leaving such nasty and vile things about a person that you don't even know. Mind you, me and Drea have never sat on any platform spewing hate. We make jokes, we laugh, we keep things lighthearted. So we've never even warranted the kind of comments that we get. But I understand that comes with the territory. You know, I feel like everybody great has a lot of haters. So I feel like if we don't have people going against us, that means we're not doing something right. So I'm still working on getting my tough skin because I'm still very sensitive, but it's still hurtful, you know, because I'm still a human. But I've learned to, you know, like I said, go out and touch grass and realize we are way more loved than we are hated, for sure. Always, for sure. I feel like I more recently started getting people being a little nastier to me. I saw that when you went by. That made me so mad. Oh, yeah. Because I feel like you were... Because I can't even believe that. You just feel so pleased. I mind my business. I don't do anything crazy. It was the moment you were having. And they ripped you apart. People were like making up all kinds of stuff. Yes. So there was part of me that felt sensitive of like, oh, people are being mean. But then I was like, oh, I'm up. Yeah. I was like, but actually, that means this is actually good. Yeah, it is. That's that Leo coming out. I know, I know. That is. But now I see the opportunity. But also, even with that whole experience, so much of the stuff that people were saying when they were being crazy was like made up things that like weren't even true. And that also gave the perspective of like, okay, now I really don't care because that's not even come with something accurate. At least if you're going to say something, speak some truth. Exactly. So it just goes to show that people sometimes just just say stuff. Yeah, just be saying anything, girl. We don't see some crazy stuff that people have said about us, too. And it's be like, huh, where do you even get that from? And I know this might sound really, really, really bad. So everybody just bear with me here. But I think a lot of times when you go through something online of being canceled and you're just kind of like when you're like when you look a certain way, people are like, oh, my gosh, I'm so pretty. Oh, my gosh, I'm crying. Feel bad for me. Like they do that a lot. Like they feel like if you're pretty or you look a certain way that you shouldn't have any issues and you're not allowed to feel things or feel bad for it. So I think that's another thing, another layer that probably added on top of it. Like you're a beautiful woman. So they're like, OK, she just complaining just to complain. You know what I mean? So, I mean, we've dealt with that, too. It's like they feel like we're not supposed to feel anything. Like boohoo, sad story. It's so hard to be all. Sometimes. Yeah, it is. It actually really is. Like, that's me. I don't care how I look. I still have feelings. You know what I mean? I know. One of the comments that actually did make me laugh when I went viral for that moment was somebody was like, you're in your early 20s. You still have time? I'm like, you think I'm in my early 40s? I'm like, okay. If you think that, period. I'm not and I don't. But if you think that, I'll take it. You know what I mean? That's funny. I would also, speaking of going back to podcasting, I'd love to talk to you all about kind of the business side of podcasting. Because I think it's something that people get very curious about. And you two have built such a beautiful platform. And you also have the empire behind it, which has been like really beautiful to see, especially over the years. Can we talk a little bit more about the different points where you realized with poor minds like, OK, this is this is more than us having conversations. This is a real business and the different milestones along the way. OK, we always say the first milestone was the $86 check. Yeah, that was the first time we made a little money from ads. We got fired by the company a few months later. I know. They missed out. Regret it. Regret. I hope they see this. But yes, they fired us maybe like four or five months later because we were putting the ad, we were placing the ads in the wrong areas. So, but we got the $86 check and we was like, okay, we own something like we can actually make money from this. So we kept going. And then I think maybe eight or nine months later, we went on 85 South and then they wanted to sign us. And then we ended up starting working with this ad agency in L.A. called Paragon. We started working with Paragon and then we started making ad money. But like nice little checks, you know, like four figure checks. And we was like, OK, now we make it enough money to pay part of our ring. Not the whole thing, but we get in there. And so then it was the ad money. then of course you know signing with 85 their merch portion of their company is huge like they make so much revenue for merch but they taught us about the merch game we started coming out with rap tees yeah the rap tees sold out and the rap tees used to sell out really quickly girl because we used to be on there naked almost we used to have on it was a different time we don't we don't be posting pictures like that no more but yes so we used to have on like our little bikinis and stuff and they had this idea for us to start coming out with these rap tees and so they used to sell out every time we were making money for merch then so those were like the two streams of income we weren't really making money from youtube for a while because we hadn't figured out that you have to like bleep certain words out and so majority of our videos although they were getting to a point where we should have been making money they weren't getting monetized so we probably figured that out like two or three years ago we started capitalizing off of our YouTube channel. And before the YouTube channel, we had Patreon. Yeah, we were always on Patreon. It was like a little source of income, but it was just something because in the beginning, early stages, when we started making money, we immediately started hiring people and paying people because we wanted to grow it. So we went from... And because we didn't want to do nothing. Yeah, we didn't want to do anything anymore. But also, like, we didn't have the skill or the capacity to edit any longer. Like, if our audience is growing, they... And audiences now, versus from when we first started, they used to be like, we don't care. We just give us the content. Now you got to have a studio, you got to have a set, audio engineer, and you have to have everything. So as soon as we really started making money, we started immediately putting it back in the business and hiring producers and editors and things like that. So, but yeah, the Patreon money. But yeah, so then it was the Patreon money. And so it was honestly just a community of people that we had around us that was putting us on different revenue streams because people don't realize there's so many different ways that you can make money from podcasting. Like Lex and I make money about six or seven different ways now. And so it was really, like I said, the people around us that was just putting us on game because we didn't know. And I believe that that's why a lot of people don't succeed in podcasting when it comes to monetizing it and making a lot of money from it because they don't recognize all of the different ways that there is to make money. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think also, like going back to what I was saying earlier, a lot of times people don't want to invest back in their business. They get their money and they just want to pocket it and they want to continue to do everything on their own. Like we had to get somebody to clip our clips correctly and do our social media because we're waking up at like seven o'clock in the morning. We're like, hey, we came out from last night. When are we supposed to post? So it's like you need a social media manager. You need somebody that is going to really take your business to the next level so you can focus on the content. So I think that's why our content has remained so good, because we're allowed to focus on that while everybody else kind of does the technical stuff. for sure. And I think that's a really good point, just upping your production quality. At first, I think people gave us a lot of grace and realized that we were just a two-man band. Yeah, they gave us a lot of grace. The sound was horrible. It sounded like we was underwater. The camera quality was bad, but we were also in my apartment. Sharing a mic. Sharing a mic. Yeah, all I need is one mic. That's all we need. That's all we need. Word and eyes. But I think people gave us so much grace. But as the show started to grow, we started to realize, OK, we have to start putting money into different areas because this quality is terrible. And that's what's going to help with gaining even more listeners and gaining more of an audience. And so we got a clip editor. We got a social media manager. We got a audio person. Yeah. We got a photographer to take our pictures when we're at the studio to make sure our thumbnails look right. So all of that and I know sometimes I think that that stuff overwhelms people when we talk about it because they like well girl how we gonna pay for that because we ain even made three dollars from the podcast yet but you gotta do what you can until you get to a point to where you can pay for it and like she used to do our she tried to start tweaking our audio for a while before we could pay for it she got she used to get on youtube and she used to watch the videos and try to teach herself because it's like we gotta get this audio right I was trying it helped a little bit It did. It did. But yeah, so I feel like we got off topic. We're supposed to be talking about money. No, yeah. But that's all part of it. That's a big part of it. But that's one point because when you make those little tweaks, when we first started getting into a studio and our audio got better, YouTube money grew. So once the YouTube money grows, okay, now we can hire a social media manager. Social media grew. The show was growing. YouTube money is going up. Okay, now we can hire an audio engineer. When you put that money back in and you're able to outsource people, you're going to make more money every time. It's going to come back. Yes. One thousand percent. Especially when you can bring people on to operate in their zone of genius. The audio engineer who knows how sound sounds or the video editor who knows how to make the video. And then you get to be in your zone of genius instead of like trying to do all these other things. It just it makes everything better. Yes. You'll always win once you learn how to delegate. You can't do everything yourself. And I am big on it. I like to focus on what I'm good at. And that's what's going to keep the business running me doing my part. And then I'm going to bring you in so you could do your part because I don't enjoy doing that part of it. But you're really good at it. So let's hire you. Exactly. Exactly. What was your very first hire? Was it like editing or producer? It was Tahir, wasn't it? It was. And he was like multi-purpose. He used to do everything. So we could only afford, we could afford at the time. So we had Tahir. Shout out to Tahir. He was absolutely amazing. We hired him with the Red and Black background day. So he was our producer, our editor, and he was doing the audio. No, Deebo was doing the audio. No, Deebo was doing the audio, but he was producing and editing. Would he do clips too? Was he doing our clips? Yeah, I think he was. Yeah, he was doing our clips as well. So he was kind of like a one-man band as well, but he definitely helped. He was in our era of getting the show to the growth, the real big growth of it. And then once we moved studios, we got like a whole, we have a whole entire team now. We have a bartender. We got a whole shebang. So, yeah, our first hire was definitely the producer director, though, like that definitely upped the production quality by a million. It did. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So helpful. Yes. I remember my when I first I think I had the Blue Yeti back when I first started. Like the little white plastic, like the snowball. Yes. And I was editing in GarageBand. My son was like the second I had two nickels. I was like, if I get on Upwork, anybody, anybody else do this to edit it and get, you know, get it together. So I wholeheartedly understand. You get it, girl. And look at you now. You like us with a whole set and everything. You know, blood, sweat and tears. Blood, sweat and tears. Started from the bottom now we're here. Exactly. Exactly. But I do really appreciate you breaking down those different streams and just the different areas that it takes to grow. And once you get something from one area and you've invested in the other, like those are the types of conversations that I love. And I think that's the stuff that people who are curious about what we do don't get to hear. Right. So it's really helpful. Yeah. Yeah, I would say for sure to the people out there, if you have a podcast and you're trying to figure out how to monetize it, try to at least get your views up to 10,000 views a week. Once you do that, you can start working with ad agents. But then you got to hit that 10,000. Yeah, you have to hit that $10,000 and you'll have income coming in, but they always say that $50,000 is the sweet spot. Yeah. Like when you get that $50,000, that's when you can really start. Like you'll see some checks that are. But when you hit that $100,000, that's when you can probably quit your job if you're getting $100,000 consistently. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah. But $10,000 is like you can have money to invest back in, you know. And then for podcasts, who I always tell people, you have to have a video element. Podcasting is, I know it's traditionally just audio, but you have to have audio and video. Like, absolutely have to. You have to at this point, because we're like the new TV shows. In the year of our Lord, 2026. You definitely do. You have to. I started podcasting because I didn't want to be on video. So it took me a long time to really wrap my head around that because I didn't want videos. I did it because I like purely wanted audio and I'm so resistant, but I couldn't. It was either Venn or go back to corporate. And so I had to make a choice. I had to turn on the ring light and say, there we go. And that's funny that you said that because surprisingly enough, we went through a phase where we weren't posting videos either. Like we started with Wind Down Wednesday. And then when we transitioned and we changed it to a podcast and changed the name Support Minds, that first year we weren't dropping visuals on YouTube. because I think so many people around us that had popular podcasts at the time was like, y'all need to focus on audio. So we were just strictly focusing on audio. And then we decided to bring the video element back because we just felt like we had to. It's just so us. We're so animated. Like you need to see us in real time while we're talking. So we decided to bring it back, but we didn't do it for a year. Yeah. And I'm not gonna lie. When our video started popping off, a lot of people were like, oh, we need to bring videos in. Like a lot of people did. I'm not saying that we started because we didn't. But when we started adding our video element heavy and they started seeing our numbers, they're like, oh, yeah, we need to do video. It's worth it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's definitely worth it. And in a lot of ways, it is kind of like the new TV because a lot of shows on YouTube and stuff like that have way more reach than things that are like traditional network. Like I even think about talk shows and I'm like, I've never watched. I see the clip. I see the spirit tunnel. because we don't have cable. We stream everything. We got Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max. Like nobody really, I don't know anybody of my friends that has cable. Like nobody I know has cable. Yeah. No, I don't know where to watch it. It's no point. Yeah. We stream everything. Like you said. Like people, well, I know people like they have YouTube TV, so maybe they'll catch things there, but you know, people watch YouTube. It is. It's where you can reach anybody. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So before we get into rapid fire, I would love to hear something that each of you is looking forward to, especially this episode. We're heading into like lucky girl summer. What would a lucky girl summer look like for each of you? Oh, something that I'm looking forward to the whole tour being sold out. I'm looking forward to the tour in general just because we haven't went on tour in almost three years. So I'm excited to get back out and like interact with our listeners and our supporters. So I'm really excited about that. and we finally on tour when it's hot outside. Thank God. The last two tours that we went on, it was in the winter, the fall and the winter girl. So it was so cold. We was in Detroit in the cold, in the cold months, in Chicago, in the cold months. So I'm glad that it's like summertime. It's going to be nice everywhere. We can enjoy the weather while we're out there. So I'm just looking forward to the tour. But I would feel like a very lucky girl if the whole tour sold out. So far, I think it's eight cities and then we still have five that haven't sold out yet. But yeah, fingers crossed. Okay. Yeah. For the sold out tour. I love it. Something that I'm looking forward to do and feeling like a lucky girl is after tour is over, I'm going to take the most luxurious vacation. I promise myself that. I mean, I know tour is going to go great because we have been, you know, working hard and preparing for it. So that's what I'm looking forward to. I'm going to have a lucky girl vacation. I want to say like I have taken some really, really nice vacations, but I want to do like a very luxurious vacation, like something I've never done before. So that's something I'm looking forward to do after tour for sure. Where do you want to go? You know, I'm thinking of a little Italy, you know, because around the time tour is going to be around. Tuscany. You know what I'm saying? You know, you eat some pasta and float down the river on a boat. And I think tour should be ending around my birthday. If we add or I mean, I think I'm like 90 percent sure we're going to add another date. You know, I don't want to say nothing. I'm already saying it. Oh, well, if we add the London date. Yeah, if we add the London date, I was like, did we say that or not? So, you know, I'm 90% sure we are going to do a London date. So it'll probably be like after the London date. I might just stay over there. Yeah. I might just stay over there after tour and just start my vacation. But I'm definitely going to take a week. Yes. Do not disturb and just have a good time. Phone off. Yes. And just enjoy. Absolutely. I love it. That's giving lucky girl summer for sure. So before we go, I got to do a rapid fire. Okay. Poor Minds rapid fire. A moment when you knew Poor Minds was changing your life. The first tour. The first tour. Yeah. Yeah. When I quit my job. That's a big one. One thing people misunderstand about podcasting. That it's real business that's getting handled behind the scenes. We don't just sit in front of the camera and talk. And everybody else is handling things. Like, no, we running a business. and I'll say not just about podcasting more specific to us that we're independent and we fund everything ourselves like we don't have this big corporate company behind us me and Dre are very much in every single meeting handling everything for ourselves so I think a lot of people don't know that either like we're funding this whole tour by ourselves yeah truly creating your own love that's what that means when you're writing the check a lesson that friendship has taught you the hard way let people go when they disappoint you the first time because they're going to disappoint you again and it's going to be worse the second time. But keep your friends close that have always shown up for you. Like, we're going to take bumps in the road. Nobody's perfect. We're all human. But there's a difference between somebody deliberately doing things and somebody just, you know, being human and kind of slipping up and falling. So I think, like, giving the people that deserve grace, grace. Yeah. The funniest misconception people have about you? That I'm extroverted. I think people think I'm like outside, loud, crazy all the time when I'm like, I'll be at home. I love being at home so bad. Like I just bought a house last year and I've been like redecorating and renovating. So I've actually made my house too comfortable. When I tell you I love to be at home, I have my Bartesian. I get home, make me a little dirty martini and I sit on my couch. I love to rewatch how to get away with murder. And I sit on my couch and I have a grand old time. I'm a homebody. I love it. That sounds nice. Yes. For me, I would say probably that I'm bougie. Like, girl, I love a good hood rat tom. Thanks. I'm so serious. Like, girl, I be on my head. Like, when I say I be having a ball when I'm outside. So I think even too that people probably think I'm more introverted when I'm very social and I'm more extroverted. So, yeah. I love it. I love it. Something success didn't solve. Oh, grief. Oh, I was going to say that, too. Yeah. Grief. Losing my dad is something that it doesn't matter how much money I make. I still it still comes in waves at the times that I least expect it to. Yeah, that's the same for me. I lost my mom in 2022 right before we went on our second tour. So as much as success that, you know, we get. I know my mom is so proud of me, but it still doesn't make up for the fact that she's not here. So it's the same for me. Thank you for sharing. A green flag in friends who are business partners. A hustler. A go-getter. Yeah, like somebody who's not lazy. And even if like, because I've had my times or she's had her times where we're not picking up our slack. We should be like, hey, friend. I'd be like, okay, let me get on it again. Like, you know, so we can always pick each other up and we're not. But we always have the same goal in mind. Because a lot of times you'll see podcasts, they fall apart because one person is just letting the other person do 100% of the work. So I think as long as you have somebody who is hustling and y'all have the same goal that that y'all want to reach, y'all going to get there for sure. Yeah. So important. I agree with that. I'll also say somebody that's not greedy. Oh, yeah. You want to be you want your business partner to be money motivated and we want to go get this. We don't go get this money. We don't figure out how to get these checks. but somebody who greedy and money is the sole motivation all the time I think you gotta watch that because they might cross you later in the end if that throw you under the bus mm-hmm what's harder than people think about entrepreneurship paying them invoices girl I be sad sometimes like I be like dang I could've went and bought some shoes I paid this invoice I agree honestly too about them taxes the taxes I oh my god shout out to Johan. He has completely got us together. Make sure you pay them taxes and get on top of it because it can get real ugly real quick. And I'm just so thankful that we have a great accountant that has gotten all our stuff together. But when you run a business and you getting that money, put some money to the side for that tax bill because it's coming, babe. And they do not be playing. So I think that everybody that has a business and you start making a lot of money, you have to get an accountant. Stop getting on, what's it called, TurboTax and trying to do it yourself. No, don't get you an accountant. I agree. Yeah. And like Lex was saying earlier too, people always want to split the money up. You got people that you got to pay. Yeah. And sometimes people split the money up before they pay people and then they be scratching their head trying to figure out how they're going to pay people. You got to pay them invoice. That's the only way your business is going to keep running smoothly. You got bills and the business has bills. And you're in charge of both. Yeah. What feels most important to you right now? just taking care of myself mentally and physically and just making sure I'm the best version of myself, of the woman that I can be. I think it's making sure I show up for everybody around me. I think I had a long time. Like I said, I was dealing with grief and I had to understand that this is a new Lex. I'm not the same person I was before my mom passed away. And I kept trying to get back to that. Like, oh, I got to get back to me. And I realized, you know what? That version of me passed away with her and that's OK. And so now I have to learn how to show up for my friends and my family and still be present in this new life that I have now that she's gone. So that's something that, you know, like I'm embracing and getting back to for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then last one, what does being lucky mean to you today? Being lucky to me just means living the life that I want to live, whatever that looks like, waking up every day and choosing my own destiny and choosing what I want to do and being lucky enough and blessed enough to be able to do that. I think being lucky for me is just when you see somebody's life and you're like, man, she's so lucky. You're looking at somebody who, like I said, put good energy in the world and also hard work into the world. And they're literally just getting back what they've put in. So I do believe in luck. I believe in blessings. I just believe in good people being blessed. Like I'm not a person that believes like, oh, you see good thing or good things happen in the bad people or whatever. I'm not believing in that because a lot of things are temporary, you know, and I feel like for me, Andrea, like this, this is the path that we're going to stay on. It's going to be an abundance of blessings forever just because we're good people and that's what we put into the world. And, you know, we deserve it. And I think that's okay to say like we deserve this life that we're living for sure. Absolutely. I love that. Lex, Drea, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you. This was fun. It was. I loved having you. Let the girls know where they can find you and where they can get more information about the tour if you're coming to a city near them. Okay. Y'all can go to www.poorminds.com and get your tour tickets. And of course, y'all can find us on all platforms at P-O-U-R underscore M-I-N-D-A. Thank you so much for tuning into this week's episode of She's So Lucky. If you enjoyed, make sure you like, make sure you subscribe. I heard that if you subscribe to the channel, something lucky happens. So I recommend testing that theory. Thank you for tuning in and I will see you next week. 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