Crazy Cousin Carnage - Depoy, Kentucky

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DePoy, I believe is how you say it. How do you spell that? De-P-O-Y. So it might be DePoy. It might be DePoy. Maybe it's like Patrick Wah, the goalie. Maybe it's, we don't know. But it's so small and it's only six minutes from Greenville. So Greenville is where like if you wanted to go get a Snickers bar, you'd go to Greenville for it, which is also a very tiny town. None of these places are big. Greenville, Kentucky? Greenville, Kentucky. So the murder happened in DePoy. Well, when we have DePoy information, I'll give you that, but otherwise it's going to be for Greenville here. Greenville, Kentucky, they're both, it's Western Kentucky either way, about an hour and 45 to Nashville, about two hours to Louisville, and about 35 minutes to Madisonville, Kentucky, which was our last Kentucky episode, episode 655, which was the murder of the queen, which was the Dairy Queen lady, if you remember that. Wow. We were so hungry after that show. Does she own one, right? Yeah. For years and years, like she had it since like the 50s, she was like an original Dairy Queen. She's one of the only ones that had like an original recipe ice cream. Yeah, it was pretty cool. So yeah, we wanted Dilly Bars bad after that. This is in Muhlenburg County, which I don't think we've ever talked about before, because I was like, Muhlenburg County. What's that? That's the county. I don't know, Muhlenburg, like the German spelling with an H. Area codes 270 and 364. Population here, 4507. So that is not much. It's a tiny place. Median household income here, about half the national average, which is not good, 34,295. But luckily for them, median home cost is also insanely low, $127,300, which is like a third of the national average, basically. Find somewhere in the country. Yeah. God damn. It's gonna be in a place that you've never heard of. That's the only place you're gonna find that. Now a little bit of history on DePoy. I hope I'm saying that right. It was a stop on the Illinois Central Gulf Railroad and was named for a railroad agent named Elmer DePoyster. He's the DePoyster. And they were like, let's make it just DePoy after him. Now on Greenville, it was settled in about 1799 here on an estate donated by a local land owner named William Campbell to establish a new seat of government for a new county. So there you go. Now it was incorporated as a city in 1848. So it took a while. It took 50 years. They think it maybe was named for the Revolutionary War General Nathaniel Green. That's the best they can do. Otherwise, they don't know. Also it's pretty green around there. Who knows? Sure. Now in 1987, the Encyclopedia of Kentucky refers to Greenville as the quote, unofficial capital of the black belt. What is that? They don't mean people. They mean production of coal and quote, dark tobacco. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Well, things that are great for us. Anything that's going to fuck up your breathing apparatus. The cancer belt. They make it here. Yeah, because of the cancer belt. A couple reviews of this town here. There isn't much. Here is one. Five stars. The job market here is very slim. I believe that. The middle of nowhere. Yeah. The company has been dependent upon the coal industry and with the government applying stricter laws and regulations, many companies have either chosen to close or find different means to fuel their business. That in turn leads to the job loss across the board. Yeah, they're terrible jobs and then terrible jobs go away and then there's no job. So it's like, well, I guess it's one of those terrible jobs. It sounds like the CEO of a company is noticing some loss and he started an old leafing. Yeah. He's like, well, I guess I'll sell pictures of my feet. Now, four stars here. The area is great because of how friendly and welcoming everyone is. It is a beautiful town that is growing. Is it? It's growing? How much is it growing? I mean, yeah. We had, well, we only have. To move here, it's growing. We had 4,800 like 10 years ago. Now it's 5,100. So 4,800, 4,900. We're doing great. Three stars here. One thing I like about Greenville is the fact that everyone knows everyone. I don't like that. It's a small town and I always love going to Walmart and seeing people reunite with the people they haven't seen in a while. This is their social center here is Walmart. Literally, I go there. Oh, I saw that. My buddy from high school, like what a, that's strange, right? My balls came through my undies. I'm going to go see Tom down at the Walmart. See if he can sell me some new ones. However, I've met a lot of ignorant people in this town and that saddens me. People who yell racial slurs, I'd like to see change in the future. Yeah, you know, less people just indiscriminately yelling racial slurs would probably be better for everyone. Sure do hope down the road of peace. Yeah. Recognize the error of that? Maybe in the 2100s, we'll figure that out down here. We don't know. I don't wish for anyone to feel uncomfortable and unsafe in any town. However, it's a problem in Greenville, Kentucky and it has to change. Okay. So in this town, ooh, it is the hogs, H A W G S because Harley is very litigious, by the way. You can't name an event at a bar, something with hog in it. They will fucking sue you. They will send you a cease and desist. They're crazy. The word hog, they own that shit and you're not allowed to use it. They better tell that to Arkansas. Well, that they have actual hogs there. I'm talking when if you're referring to a motorcycle and you're calling it hogs, hogs, bogs and brews, bike and Jeep night. It's called. Oh, yeah. Like W C W wrestling used to have a show called hog wild that was at Sturgis. They had to change it to road wild because Harley said pursuing you. What? You can't use the word hog. We own it. Yeah. They don't own a hog. Do they? Yeah. That's a real American old time. Sue you for using hog. It's so funny. They're corporate as shit and everybody acts like they're like some. What a stupid thing to sue about. A bunch of guys get out of prison and then put a Harley shirt on and they're like, cool, right? Yeah, they're really cool. They're not corporate at all. Hog. Yep. So this is on May 30th here. So you can still have time. There's motorcycles, Jeeps, cold beers and live music. That's everything there, I would say. And then this next one, not a lot to do here, but I just like the name of it, the squash and gobble arts and crafts festival. What is that? Squash and gobble. I don't know. It looks like crafts. It's a bunch of crafts. It's a gobble about. I don't know. And Brian Wiggins and Swift Silver will be playing there along with the local honeys and Evan Galen. So galleon. So there you go. That said. This is not good. No, it's small. So you're not, it's going to be tough there. But if you don't have a Jeep or a Harley, you're asked out on everything. You got, well, I just assume if you live here, you have a four wheel drive vehicle or motorcycle or both. I think that's what they're assuming. I don't know in place. So I don't know. Both of them are vehicles that wave at each other if they see the other. Absolutely. Yeah. They all do it to each other. Those are waivers. That's one thing I never want any vehicle that puts me in a club. That's the wave community. Never ever. If I'm looking at cars, what are you looking for? Something that no one will wave at me in. That's what I'm looking for. Something I'm not a part of a fucking anything. I don't want to be a part of your community. I think the Subaru community has an acknowledgement of some sort. I don't know what it is. I don't know what the lesbian hand signal is. Yeah. I don't know. There's a some sort of, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm one of these. I'm not positive of what it is exactly. I think that's the wave. I'm not sure. Yeah. We can say that because lesbians love us by the way. We have tons of lesbian listeners and they're laughing the hardest at that. That's why we don't mind saying it. But there's also, I'll bet you, dollars to donuts, the forerunner community is the next one that does it. Oh no. Well, that's so bad. Because that community is fucking deep. There's a lot of them now. There's a very common car. Oh boy. That's, it's got to be top five leading. The Jeep wave is to try to get you to come over to the side of the road and help them because they're broken down. Yeah. Hey, I can eat a. Hi, my name's C. Doesn't work either. I'm stuck here. Yeah. All right, let's talk about a murder here. All right. Now as of, we're going to go to 1999 here. Yeah. Okay. So in this place, picture about 1963. That's about the equivalent here. You know what I mean? Now, DePoy at this point, it's an unincorporated community. It is, and I'll describe it from this article here, sitting just down the gravel road from Greenville. Oh boy. So I mean, there's, you got to take a gravel road. It's so small that it has, you know, not a lot. It has no city government, no, you know, welcome sign, no mayor, none of that shit here. It's just basically a bunch of some mobile homes, a railroad bed running through the woods and a restaurant called John and Sue's. That's the town. Wow. That's the entire town. Some trailers, the tracks that used to be more active and a restaurant. The loyalty of John and Sue. Now there's a road here called Wimberley Lane. Not really a road. It's a gravel, about an eighth of a mile long gravel path, essentially. And it's named for a family that's lived there for two generations or the only people that live on this gravel path is this family. And that's, it's called Wimberley Lane. Yes. And there are three households that we'll talk about here. Now the matriarch and patriarch here are Dell and Eugene Wimberley. They have a small house where they live. Their house is actually like attached to the ground and everything. They raise two daughters there, Beverly and Jean. And we're going to have to remember all these names here. Now, Beverly married, this will be easy to remember, married a guy named Wedding. So that's easy. We know she got married. So again? Yeah. She married Todd Wedding. Oh, last name, God. Last name, yeah. Beverly married, so she's now Beverly Wedding. Todd is a newspaper guy. Oh. Okay. And not, he's like an editor for the local newspaper. Yeah. Delivers newspapers. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Not, he's a, he's not a journalist or anything. Jimmy went, oh, look at that. He was like, no, no, no, hold on a minute. No, no, no. You back it up. He's got a sunroof that he cut in the top of his car. Of his Jeep. Hux paper. Yeah. Yeah, he takes the teets off. Yeah, he just, he throws them out. So they get married. Then Jean marries Johnny Vincent, who works for a local food distributor. So, so we got, they're both married off Jean and Johnny and Beverly and Todd. Okay. Both daughters each had a son. All right. Now, Beverly had a son named Terry and Jean and Johnny Vincent had a son named Joey. Okay. Okay. Now, Jean and Johnny got a son named Joey. Jean and Johnny got Joey and Beverly and Todd have Terry. Okay. Now by the late nineties, these are grown men, the sons, they've grown into grown men. They have their own houses on the same gravel path. Yep. The way the road. Yeah. You just put another trailer down at the end, I think is a lot of the kind of family roads. It's kind of what they do. They had another mobile home or they'll build a small house or whatever. Now Adele, the matriarch here described this. She said, it was a village raising all that, all the children and everybody relied on each other, trusted each other a lot with that. Terry, a little bit younger, she's watching a video of the kids and she said, Terry doesn't look like he quite knows what to do. He looks like he's trying to find somebody to help him figure out what to do all the time. Oh, a little lost. A little lost. And so as of 1999, living on Wimberley here, we have Beverly Wedding, who is like we said, Adele and Eugene's daughter. Manville Todd Wedding. His name is Manville Wedding. That's Todd. That's much easier to deal with. Now Beverly's 56 years old in 1999. So imagine Adele and Eugene, they're like 112. You got it. Terry's very old. Maryville, or Manville Wedding here is 59, Todd. And then Terry Wedding, their son is 27 at this point. Yeah. Okay. So they all live in the same house here. Now Beverly here, she has worked for 15 years as a district circulation manager for the Evansville Courier. Which is, she's the manager of the distribution of the papers. She tells you which houses to throw a paper at. I feel like that's what that is. Tells us who's paid up so that they can get a paper. Exactly. She was reportedly at this point trying to retire, but the paper wouldn't let her retire, which I don't understand. Wouldn't let you. Here's what you do. You don't go there anymore. And now you're retired. I don't know what. No one can force you not to retire. You're going to have to train your replacement and then you can go. Yeah, she's not playing for the Lakers. It's not like she's under contract or something. You got two more years on your deal, pal. We gave you a signing bonus. We're taking a salary cap hit this year. You're sticking around. Come on. The cap hits huge this year. Got to help us out here. Now Adele said here, she said, Beverly was a really likable person, a lovable person, never had a care in the world. She wanted to retire last year, but they wouldn't let her. I said, Beverly, don't be such a good hand and maybe they'll get rid of you. Stop being so good at your job and then we'll find somebody else. Stop performing. Oh, I can't retire. Okay. I made a few mistakes this week. Sorry about that. How about now? Yeah, quiet strategy. Yeah, exactly. Just a Kentucky style in a long time ago. Stop showing up. Yeah, that's it. I did that. I've done that many times. Just, hey, guess what? I guess I don't work here anymore. Didn't have to formally put any paperwork in. So she is a, the family goofball is how her family describes her in a good way. She likes to sing Christmas songs in a funny way and shit like that and around Christmas and everything like that. Also very sentimental. She kept Terry's very, her first stuffed animal that she gave to him when he was a baby. She kept that in her bedroom. He's 27 now. So that's very sentimental. She's got his teddy. Yeah. Now she has been married to Todd for about 40 years and he helped, he helped Beverly deliver the Sunday edition of the Evansville courier. He's described as quiet and honorable. His older sister said, quote, Todd was my younger brother. There was only two of us. Everybody liked my brother. He's friendly. He's honorable and just a very fine man. Honorable. Honorable. Very honorable. Yeah, that paper is square on your porch every morning. He's an honorable man. He's 59 so they've been married. 40 years. It's it. Yeah, they got married 18, 19 years old and that's it. Stuck together. Yeah. Stuck together and from what I understand everybody likes Todd. Great guy. He's honorable James. Honorable man. What do you want? June 15th, 1999, Beverly called her younger sister's daughter. Okay. All right. This calls her, so her niece that would be. Yeah. Her niece Amy in tears, asking for a ride to the courthouse. Yeah. Okay. Now, Beverly had decided Amy by the way is Joey's wife. Yeah. Jean and Johnny's son's son, Joey's wife. Okay. So there you go. So her niece in law, I guess would be the best to say here and asking for a ride to the courthouse because Beverly and Todd decided they had to take out a quote mental health on their own son, Terry. Basically, they called for some help. Got to come pick them up in an ambulance and take them somewhere basically. That's what they call that, huh? I guess. I never heard of a mental health warrant before. I've never heard of that either. But I guess, I mean, I get what they're getting at though. Yeah. They need help. He's not doing well. Yeah. Terry is born about 1971. He's the only, or 72, I mean, he's the only child of Todd and Beverly. He graduated high school at Madisonville, North Hopkins high school and went to also Life Christian Academy in Madisonville. So by 1990, he's 27. He is described as this. He's a big guy. Oh. But relatives describe him having a very high pitched voice. Oh really? I love those guys. And they said basically his family said it was a feminine voice. He had a very feminine voice. And it doesn't match his... I'm a character from the Howard Stern show. It's weird. It's strange. It doesn't match his frame at all. It's just one of those things. He's like Mike Tyson you look at. You're like, oh my God, he's the scariest man ever. And you're like, oh my God, he talks like someone's little sister whose teeth haven't come in yet. Who's this little lady? Yeah. He also took a lot of karate, big into karate. His uncle said this, quote, he had kind of a feminine type of voice. He was a big, big guy, well built and his voice certainly didn't fit his size. And I'm almost positive that's gotten him into trouble. He probably was bullied. Terry took karate, martial arts, probably for self-defense. I guess he got very good at it. Somebody would say it didn't... Somebody would say it didn't... They didn't like the tone of his voice or something and they would be sorry to say that later. Oh. So yeah, if you made fun of his voice, which probably they was made fun of all through school, it's like Colin Marty McFly a chicken. He's just not having it. Now it's fighting words. That's the one, yeah. His family described him as, quote, almost like an incredible Hulk. His other uncle said they were very muscular. I don't know, they, it's just him. They were very muscular. Well, I guess he could... He's very ahead of his time, I guess, this guy in Kentucky in 1998. About 40 years. He's like, listen, I don't want to... He said they were very muscular. He sure was lifted weights, but he sure was built, almost like an incredible Hulk. He's got some priors, fourth degree assault charge in 1993, which was dismissed. Got cited for no insurance in 1996, but that... What's the fourth degree? Thinking about it? Fourth degree, yeah, I think it's to go... You can say that. The person didn't like your breath, I think, is how it works there. What'd you have for lunch? Jesus, that's a salt. What was that, onions? That's bad. Also, a guilty plea to improperly displaying registration tags in 1996, where he had the... I mean, he was really hit hard by the courts with a $67.50 fine. So, he's that small dumb shit that really maybe got in a fight in a bar, you know, drove around with no insurance when he was in his early 20s, who cares? He's a deer and turkey hunter, and he also... I don't know how he did this in the middle of nowhere, but he sold knickknacks out of his parents' house. I don't know how you do that pre-etsy, like, in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. No one's driving by. It's dead-end gravel road. I guess that's theft, innit? Because you don't have knickknacks at your mom's shit. He, like, makes shit, I guess. Really? Yeah, like, or goes to junkyards, he does all sorts of weird shit. Weird. He had at least one time, we know, he had a girlfriend at one point. So, he's not a complete social, you know, pariah or whatever. Yeah, he actually had somebody be able to be good enough to have sex with him, so that's nice. Yeah. By 1998, they're sorting out Terry's problems. They're figuring out that he's got some issues. Yeah. And doctors diagnose him with bipolar disorder. Oh, I know. Which is tough. And that makes more sense to everybody now, because he has some swings and, you know, he's happy for three days. He's depressed. You know, he's got the typical kind of manic thing going on here. His mother, I guess, here came home crying, Beverly, and told the news to a relative. One of the family members said, Beverly came to my house, tears streaming down her face. And Beverly said, he has a chemical imbalance of the brain, which makes it sound even worse. That sounds terrible. And that's, well, I mean, that's what she probably said, what is that? And the doctor said, it's a chemical imbalance of your brain. And then she just took that. And that makes sense, you know. So Terry was prescribed lithium for his bipolar disorder. And that was a, that's kind of the, that's usually they'd hit you with that when it was bad, because lithium is strong. That's an extreme one. That's really strong. Also in 98, when you got diagnosed, that's when the new, there's a lot of new drugs coming out at that point that treated this and stuff like that. But lithium was still, I don't know if that got to Kentucky yet, you know what I mean? Got to the Hills yet. Yeah. The pro's acts and such. I'm not sure. So they still use it as a mood stabilizer. Yeah. It's still in use. It's a very common thing. It's just, it's a stronger one. Hey everybody, just going to take a quick break from the show to tell you how to get the best broth that's ever been with Brodo. Brodo, brodo.com. Absolutely. Love Brodo. Delicious stuff. By the way, Brodo is Italian for broth in case you didn't know. Is that right? That is the truth. Delicious. It's amazing. 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And that's why a lot of bipolar people, known a lot of bipolar people and read a lot about this, a lot of bipolar people stop taking their medication because they miss the highs. Being medic is fucking great. It's great. It's like. In your brain, it feels great. Things you're doing aren't perfect, but you feel great. You're up for days. You're feeling good. You feel like you're accomplishing things. Your brain's snapping and then you take this and everything slows down and you don't feel like yourself and you want that high of the mania again. That's why a lot of bipolar people will stop taking medications to get the manias back. They like the manic periods of it, which I guess makes sense. They feel like everything's clicking for them in there. I don't know that I have that. I know that I don't have that. No, you're unipolar. You're just depressed. Yeah. I got a baseline of bottom. Yeah. You're unipolar. But the medications that I was prescribed just numb and you feel nothing. That's the problem. I'm incapable of being like that. One thing bipolar people have is they feel things. They feel up. They feel down. To go from that to feeling as hard for people sometimes. To have that just heart chart baseline is that's not fun. It's tough. That makes sense. When you're manic, you feel invincible. So I mean, it's like, you feel good. Now by Christmas 1998, he's on his medication and things are looking. It looks like a different person now. Now that his brain has slowed down and can process and everything, things are working. It's what's working out supposed to for him. Then by early to mid June 99, nobody knows why he just stopped taking his medication. Couldn't do it anymore. A lot of people also, if they feel good, they'll go, well, I don't need it anymore. I feel good now. They don't realize that that's the reason they feel good. So it's tough. See the forest beyond the trees thing. Exactly. So Terry, he has a favorite cousin and that's Joey. That is Jean and Johnny's kid. Joey Vincent. He's born September 30th, 1969. He's 29 years old in June of 99. And he's got a wife and he's doing great. He's got a wife named Amy. She's 22. And yeah, so he's 29, 22. Yeah. They live about 100 yards across the yard from the weddings. OK. So they're there. They have a gray mobile home where Joey lives with Amy and they have a little baby who is one to two years old, little toddler named Brooklyn. So he's got to look at them and be like, what the fuck? Why can't I get it together? Yeah, Joey's only two years older than me, but he has a wife and a kid in his own place. And I live with my parents and don't have anything. And that's that's yeah, you do get jealous of same age cousins. Sometimes I would think, I don't know. I'm not. I'm not. I don't really care. I'm not. I could see it. I could see it, though. Yeah, for sure. I have seen it. I've seen it happen. I'm the oldest cousin, so I don't have anybody to gauge mine against it. Yeah. The next one is like 10 years younger than me. So fucking I don't care what they're doing. Yeah, I don't know. We tend to root for each other. My my cousin is eight years older than me and he works for us. And he's happy as can be and couldn't be more thrilled for anything that happens with us. You know what I mean? I go on 10 years younger than me and I'm just going, you're going to get divorced any day now. You're just thrusting your shit upon him. I like that. That's fun. Good luck, fucker. I know the bad shit. That's the voice in his head. That's great. So Joey and Terry, they're like best friend cousins growing up. You have the cousin that you're closest to and that's them. There's home videos of those two from toddlers to tricycles to always together, always hanging out. Now Joey here, he apparently Joey is a very as a teen. He really hit a stride. He was very confident and a lot of friends had girlfriends. He went to four high school proms. God damn Joe. Yeah, Joey had it. It was a ladies man. He played basketball at Graham High School. So he was an athlete. He had kind of all the stuff Terry didn't have basically. Right. So it's one of those things that was Joey's Terry's cool cousin. Right. Now, 1999, by that time, Joey had been on the Greenville Police Department for eight years. And he's a cop. He started in 91. A fellow officer said Joey and I were at one of our softball games one evening and Joey explained to me that he had applied for the Greenville Police Department. And you know, I wasn't surprised because I knew Joey had the personality and the love for his community and the love for the people. All right. And small town police force, too, is a different kind of thing. You're mainly talking to people in that. You know what I mean? It's not a, you know, there's not so much crime that you're just trying to catalog. It's mainly just, oh, they're fighting again. Let's make sure they don't hit each other. You know, it's kind of that more of that thing when it's only four or five hundred people. Let's go calm down and give Peter ride to his mom's house. Yeah. You I assume you're you're probably spending a lot of your times at the same trailers. You know what I mean? Well, that again. Okay. He's also a pastor or the pastor of the new Cyprus Baptist Church in the community of Graham nearby. Off with young fella. Yeah. He wanted to train as a chaplain as well. And a Greenville City Council member said he's laid back an easy going and just just gone back to full time work from the baby being born and all that. He's very good at his job. We never had a minute's trouble with him. Joey's a good guy. A friend tells a story of asking Joey to officiate his wedding as well. After me and my wife became engaged, I asked Joey if he would care to officiate the wedding at the time he was joking about it, but he told me he said it would be an honor for him to do it. Did an exceptional job. I believe it. Yeah. Why not? Everybody likes him basically in the whole community. He's good at everything. He was a kid. He actually, as we'll talk about it, he has to take Terry into custody at one point and then cries his eyes out afterwards because he didn't want to do that. And then he told his partner he'd do it again though because it was the right thing to do. Have to. Let's keep him in the community safe. That's the honorable thing to do. Type of guy he is. He's an honorable man, Jimmy. Yeah. That's right. He met his wife, Amy. This is a little odd here. A fellow office. She's seven years younger. And a fellow officer came to the house one or Joey said, as a fellow officer talking, Joey came to the house one day and he said, and I quote, I think I found the one. And I said, Joey, what are you talking about? And he said, I'm in love. I found the person I'm going to marry. Oh, no, don't say it. Okay. Well, Amy Hambrick, as was her maiden name here, they met in 1995. So four years earlier when she was 18 and he was 25. That's fine. He was on duty and he was called to break up a party at the hill, which is a hill in DePoy where everybody, the kids go to drink. So high school kids. Yeah. Underage drinking. Well, just underage drinking. That's where they go. And that's where Amy was. That's how he met her. He was called to break up a party and he didn't arrest her or write her a ticket. He let her off with a warning. And then a couple of weeks later, he asked her out, which seems not completely honorable. If you look at it like a little unethical, right? Put it this way. If they don't get married and live happily ever after you go, ooh, that's not great. But if they get married and they live happily ever after, then it's fine, I guess. Right? I don't know. I mean, then it's okay. It's not a beauty. It's not like predatory because she's reciprocating and they have a baby. It's fine. I guess it's a weird, did take two years for him to make her pregnant, which is good. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, that back. He took it, took her two years to have the baby. They may have. Uh, I don't know. They met in 95 and they had a baby in 98, 97, 97, right? It's two years old. So probably pregnant in 98, probably pregnant in 97. So two years, I think they got married 96. So they got married in August of 96, as a matter of fact. So they only knew each other for a year. Um, uh, Terry did not attend the wedding. Oh, no one really understood what he just had. Basically they kind of said he had social anxiety, but. There's something there. Um, uh, one of the relatives said, I do know that a lot of times socially, Terry had more anxieties and he definitely preferred to be by himself or around smaller groups of people, probably just with his mom and dad. Yeah. He's a little more, you know, not as outgoing as Joey here. Now after the wedding, Joey and decide, Joey and Amy decided to live on a Delan Eugene's land on Wimberley Lane because Joey wanted to be close to the family. Yeah. Um, so they put up, they put a mobile home in there directly across the road from Beverly and Todd and Terry. Um, there they are. So 1997 in July is when Brooklyn is born. So they, that's, they, they got pregnant right now, two months after they got married. They walked down the aisle and said, let's start trying. Yeah. And there they are. So good for them. They had the daughter Brooklyn and Beverly and Todd are always babies sitting here and they love her and, uh, you know, always playing with her and all that kind of thing. Um, June of 1999, Amy is pregnant with their second child. She's four months pregnant. Going again. Yeah. Going again. Now, Amy has a job too. She's a waitress at John and Sue's restaurant. Restaurant. Yeah. These people are deployed through and through. They are the town. Um, so she's a waitress there and very popular. Everybody knows her because she's the waitress in the only diner and only restaurant in town. Um, her coworker said she's always joking and loving on everybody and that kind of thing. Uh, they said the owner of John and Sue's said that Amy was the type of person that on a Friday night shift, she'd give half of her $20 in tips to a fundraiser collecting for cancer research. She's a 10 box home tonight. Yeah. And that's all she'd take home because she was just nice like that. So Terry on the other hand, talked about Joey, Joey's thriving wife, baby, another kid on the way, job, church, he's got all sorts of things. Terry, his uncle said is a little bit of a loner. And when asked if what Terry wanted to be when he grew up, his uncle said, I'm not aware that Terry really wanted to do anything. I don't think Terry wanted to grow up. He didn't. Yeah. That's what it is. He's still living at home. Um, mom and dad are providing for him. And one relative said, I thought it was strange that he was still at home at his age. I don't know if Beverly and Todd ever encouraged Terry to get out on his own or not. Yeah. I don't think he's capable of it because I think he's too unstable. I think they want to keep an eye on and make sure he takes his medication and things like that. It was odd. Mind your own fucking business. Yeah. All right. Now Joey started to get mad at Terry for how Terry treated his parents. Oh, started to get pissed off that he was mean to his aunt and uncle here. You know, Joey's aunt and uncle. Yeah. Uh, one of the relatives said Joey would get a little upset at the way Terry would treat his mother and father, Beverly and Todd. Terry wasn't showing them any respect. He was unpredictable. His behavior was erratic and he could go from almost hot to cold just like in the snap of a finger. Yeah. And Terry, you don't own this place. No. And he's off his medication. Yeah. That's what happens. Um, so the day, before they knew he was bipolar, they just called him weird all the time. They're just like, Terry's a fucking weirdo. Like, well, he's got some mental illness is the problem, but uh, Tuesday, June 15th, 1999, Beverly wedding, uh, picks up the phone and calls Amy at home. Okay. Beverly is terrified. That's the problem. Um, Terry's been off his meds for over two weeks and he's starting to really be a wacky here. Um, that's when Beverly said she needs a ride to the courthouse and Amy said, okay, and took her to the courthouse. Now this is, she went to the courthouse to take out a 72 hour mental health warrant known in Kentucky as an emergency protection slash involuntary admission order against her own son. Wow. Um, an officer involved said for Beverly and Todd to see the need to have a mental health warrant signed against Terry. I mean, I knew it had to be bad for them to go that far. They saw that there, uh, they saw that there was a threat to himself or somebody else. So the warrant gets signed by a judge. Now it has to be served by a member of law enforcement. Oh, so it's an actual, it's like a, yeah, it's a welfare check with an involuntary with the place to go. Yeah. Yeah. So they're taking you. Yeah. Exactly. So Joey says he'd do it because he knows him and he doesn't want Terry to get hurt. He doesn't want anything to go down. His cousin's going to serve it. Yeah. Which makes sense for Joey because he's thinking this is, this is the right thing to do because I don't want him freaking out and having officers having to beat him up or anything like that. Cause he's a big guy too. And he knows karate and all this shit. They might have to shoot him. He's like, if I go over there, he'll come with me. You know, is there a way he can do this plain clothes so that it just feels like a family's taking him for a ride somewhere? I mean, I'm sure he can. I'm sure he doesn't have to go over there and introduce himself as officer Vincent. I'm sure he can say, yeah, he can say, Terry. So Joey's shift partner said, quote, I enjoy, and then he stops. Joey called me right at, right at time for him to come to work and said that Beverly and Todd had signed a mental health warrant against Terry and that he was going to help serve it. He felt like things would go smoother if he was in there. Yeah. Cause he can make a, you know, contact. Family. Yeah. So he does, he thinks it'll help diffuse the situation. So he goes with a deputy from the Mulenburg County Sheriff's office. They knock on the door. They tell Terry has to come with them. The sheriff, Jerry Mayhew, said there was a small altercation. He resisted right away, but we have this with the mentally ill all the time. It's common, quite common. So even with his cousin there, resisted, it need to be a Joey needed to physically restrain him and put him in handcuffs. He wouldn't come just voluntarily. He was going to just have him come with them, but they had to actually cuff him down and everything. Terry threatens Joey during the arrest and, you know, he's freaking out. Um, they said threats, the sheriff said during a mental health pickup, threats are the routine. They're, they're, they're not together. So they're just throwing out things, you know what I mean? Um, so they said that, uh, basically Joey had to chase Terry down. Terry tried to run, you know, Joey was chased him down, helped cuff him and all that kind of shit. And, um, Joey called his, uh, his officer friend back that night and said that, uh, the guy said he called me back and he said it got quite physical. How Terry didn't want to go, but he needed it. Um, now Adele grandma here, she said that I do know, um, oh, this is from somebody else talking about Adele. I do know that Adele and Joey's grandmother told me, uh, that he just stood in the yard and bald, meaning Joey did, uh, like he just saw because he had to do that. So that's tough. So then they drove him to grandfather. The, I guess, yeah. Yeah. So they then drive him to the Western state hospital in Hopkinsville. She's at the hospital from June 15th to June 23rd. Dang. Now he's, you can only hold him for 72 hours. After 72 hours, the patient is entitled to a hearing to determine whether they should be held longer. Now Terry was completely pissed off the entire time he was in there, mad at his parents. He refused to see anybody. His family tried to see him. He wouldn't see anybody. Uh, grandma Adele said Terry was angry all the time. He was up there at Western state and he didn't want to see any of the family. Yeah. So he gets a hearing. Um, Adele doesn't attend. Uh, now the hospital determines that he's no longer, no longer meets the legal threshold of imminent danger to himself or others. Okay. So they had to let him go. So they let him go after a week there. Um, so now Wednesday, June 23rd, 1999, Terry's brought home to his parents' house where he, who he's pissed off at. Right. And Joey's across the street and he's not real thrilled with him either. Sure. So Joey shows up at work June 24th and his shift partner asks him how, how it went. Basically, you know, Terry coming home and everything. He said, I asked him, I said, well, do you think he's made any progress? And Joey's exact words was he seems a little bit frustrated. I said, how do you feel knowing that you were a part of serving this warrant? And he said, I'd do it again. Okay. But then he said, but Amy's concerned. She was scared that something was going to happen. She's scared of Terry. So Amy's like, well, I don't want to be home and then he's across the street and he's mad at us and all that. Uh, so that day, the 24th of June, Amy is worried. Um, she shows up unannounced at a friend's house and sits down and her friends said, um, I was at my house and Amy came in that night. She said, I want to come see you because I'm not going to live much longer. Wow. She said, we're not going to live much longer. And this is probably going to be the last time I see you. And I just want to sit here and have some coffee and tell you, I love you. What's that about? That is crazy. I, I'd be, I'd do like, I was going to say, do you have postpartum or something? Like this is, she seems like she needs a hold. This is, this is, let's go to the courthouse and get that warrant. That sounds sad. Like, are you going to hurt yourself or someone else going to hurt you? They said, she never said specifically her concerns regarding Terry, but Amy was scared to be by herself. She felt like somebody was watching her and that was Amy's conversation. That's when she came, that, that was why she came to see me. She felt like she was being watched and she was just uncomfortable. Now around that same time, Amy's telling coworkers at the restaurant that she's afraid of Terry because Terry's mad at Joey basically, and he's right across the street. Yeah. The owner of the restaurant said though that they, that he and Joey had discussed the situation and Joey didn't think there was any imminent danger. You know, he just thought she was, you know, there's a baby around. She gets scared and, you know, go around a nest and see how the mother animal acts when you go near their babies. They don't like it. So understandable. Not very chill. They get a little uptight about it. So in late June, like we said, he's off his meds. He got out of the, out of the place and he's off his meds and it's not great. Now it's bad stuff. He said that basically he had the delusional belief that he was telling people that we're not family. Like he was, he had his belief that like these weren't his, this wasn't his family anymore and like they've been replaced by pod people or some shit. Like he was, he was spinning out. It was what it was. Really having a tough time here. Basically like this is like a psychotic mania. Like he's just out of it. Oh, good. So Sunday, June 27th, 1999 at six 15 a.m. Okay. Joey officer, officer, pastor Joey here. Sure, sure. He is taking Brooklyn to the hospital. Okay. She's been, she's been sick all night. So they're taking her to the hospital here. There she's, he's carrying the kid out to the family car. So Amy can drive her to the emergency room because he has to work. So Amy's going to drive her to the emergency room and he's going to them go to work, I believe she's been sick all night, the baby. Um, now they said, you know, they should be home by lunch. You know, it won't be that busy at the, it's fine. It's a Thursday morning and, um, there you go. Now Terry is across the street and joey's walks out the front door of his trailer. Terry here, uh, is sitting in his kitchen window about a hundred yards away watching. Okay. And he's watching for Joey. He's pissed off for Joey and he has a high powered deer hunting rifle in his hand. Yeah. And he's very, he's very good at shooting. One thing he's a good, he's a hunter. And that's what he does. So he's in shit, doesn't he? Yeah. Turkey's in deer. Yeah. So when Joey comes out from a hundred yards away, Joey shoots, Tara, or Terry shoots Joey through the window. Wow. Shoot him and drops him. Hit him. Hits him. Joey collapses next to the car. Oh, fuck. Amy comes running out of the house, uh-huh. Toward the car when she hears this and sees this and jumps into the car. And we'll talk about this here. Um, a 911 call comes in at this point. Okay. Um, it's been a, it's pretty quiet this day. It's a summer day and you know, not a, not a busy day here. Uh, what is it? A Sunday? I believe it's a Sunday today. So it's an easy day. Um, uh, mainly like welfare checks and shit like that. They're getting calls for, but they get a call saying the shots fired, uh, on Wimberley Lane. So Derek Hembrick, um, here is Amy's brother. He was staying overnight with Joey and Amy that night because Brooklyn was sick and they needed help. Yeah. He heard the gunshots, looked outside, saw Terry and saw how he had a big long gun and he was walking toward them after he heard the shot. So he called 911. Now the police arrive and the state troopers, they cut off the lane, they converge on it and close it down. And, uh, the chiefs or assistant chiefs that I saw Joey lying between the door and the car with the car door forward. And I ran to Joey to check a pulse on him and didn't find one. I knew in my heart he was gone. Hmm. He said, then I got inside the car and checked on Amy. She was leaning across her, uh, across her arm was leaned on the console. Kind of like she was trying to start to be, but she didn't have a pulse either. No. Been shot either. Now the main question is, what do you think? What do you mean? What do I think? Where's the baby? Fuck it. Yeah. And that I was going to say where the fuck is, is Terry too. They're looking at, you know, victims here. Where's the one year old? She's not in the car. No. So Derek, the brother runs out and tells the cops he's got her. The, Terry came over, shot Amy in the car and then took the fucking baby and took off. He's gone with the baby. Oh my God. So he said he shocked Joey through the window and then he walked to the car and shot Amy, then he took Brooklyn, then he went back to the house. Oh Jesus. Just picked her up and fucking walked away. So this is terrifying. They're like, holy fuck, this is crazy. They killed a cop, his wife and then stole the baby. This is insane. And her unborn. And well, yeah, the child too, but I'm more worried about the fucking. Yeah, the one that's. The one that's alive and actually a person at this point. Yeah, has a name. Yeah. Has a name and a social security number. Yeah. Get me some paperwork on that. And yeah, we'll worry about the, we'll worry about that one later, but this one is, you know, it's alive and missing at this point, this poor child. So at this point, they barricaded everything. They know where he is. He's in his house and he has possession of a one year old and they don't know if the one year old's okay. So the state police start arriving in bunches here. I mean, this is a big deal. Huge big deal. They said that they said, quote, probably one of the scariest parts of my life was there wasn't a whole lot of cover between where me and the officers, other officers were and the house. We didn't know which window he'd shot Joey through. So we ended up taking cover until the state police got there. Yeah, we're just sitting out here and we have no idea what St. Ducks has on us. Or turkeys for this matter. Yeah. One of them said they had guns drawn because we didn't know exactly what kind of weapons Terry had. So yes, they were prepared if he decided to shoot at them to shoot back. Um, then once that I was concerned that Terry might try to use Brooklyn as a hostage. I mean he had just killed her parents and taken her in the house with him and we have no idea what he will or won't do at that point Yeah, what the fuck other reason would he have to have her? It's crazy. So it's 7 20 in the morning. Yeah, this is going on At one point not very long after this. I mean under an hour Terry just comes out He comes out of the house and he's holding Brooklyn. Okay holding the baby They don't tell him the officers just everybody pauses because he's got a baby So they're like, oh shit, you can do anything at this point So until they get him to put the kid down, they're not gonna arrest it rush him or do anything Look one cop said I didn't tell him that he was going to be arrested. I just told him that we needed to talk to him and so he walked out the front door and stands there for a second with the baby and then just puts the baby down and Surrenders without any resistance, but he does ask for a cigarette. Yeah, I'd like a cigarette, please Turns out the cops said biggest concern when he came out of the house is that Brooklyn was in the line of fire When he came out he actually placed Brooklyn down and he surrendered I went straight for Brooke Brooklyn I wrapped her up in a raincoat and actually took her to the ambulance and just the sense of relief to see that she was Okay, and for a brief what moment then reality hit you again turns out he Gave the baby snacks gave her some ice cream and a banana He took her in the house just started babysitting. Yeah, put the cartoons on and put here's a banana and some ice cream Like just like nothing happened. It was weird as shit They said then the chief when he gets inside chief Darren Harvey of Greenville Said when we moved the portable fireplace, that's where the weapons were and We found the combat rounds were set up in every room. He had it set up to he was ready to use this Yeah, yeah, this was he was gonna go down. This was gonna be his Alamo. Yeah, basically it The world moves fast you work day even faster pitching products drafting reports analyzing data Microsoft 365 co-pilot is your AI assistant for work built into word Excel powerpoint and other Microsoft 365 apps you use Helping you quickly write analyze create and summarize So you can cut through clutter and clear a path to your best work learn more at Microsoft comm slash and 365 co-pilot They said combat rounds are where you set up two bullets or ammo side by side where you can pick them up and load them quickly And then you have them in every room so you don't ever run out you can fire walk by grab it and put that in He was prepared for basically war With a with a bolt action. I guess so if you have cover and you're a good shot. Yeah, and why not? So the other question is where the fucker Todd and Beverly? Yeah, where are they at his parents? Yeah, they enter the house. They don't find Todd. They don't find Beverly They find all these you know Weapons and they find ammo positioned everywhere and the vehicle which is a Dodge and trepid. Oh They find that outside it has a wet interior Like someone tried to hose out the interior of the car. It's all wet so that's that's very strange and The phone at the parents house kept ringing while they're processing all this. Yeah, so the officer who was answering the phone Said it was crazy because they have two dead people Including a cop and a pregnant woman They have a cop and a pregnant woman a baby that was just held hostage Yeah, this guy who was planning a shootout with the cops and the phone is ringing every five minutes because people are pissed off Their paper hasn't come this morning So they're calling Beverly to be bitch about it. I don't worry tomorrow's paper will have the reason oh You're gonna find out a whole lot tomorrow. Don't you worry about that shit? Because they delivered the paper early in the morning. It's Sunday. You don't get your Sunday paper. You're pissed Oh, yeah, yeah, the people were calling and saying they hadn't gotten it yet So they were like where the fuck are Beverly and Todd? Yeah, they go 5 a.m. To do this They've been doing it for 15 years and they said at that point we realized we now had two missing people also Right, there are nowhere to be found So they sit Todd down at 11 o'clock in the morning for about 15 to 20 minutes Yeah, does not sign the waiver relinquishing his rights, but he does agree to talk without a lawyer, but he won't sign anything Okay It was at that point that he admitted to everything he did admitted to the killings He'd said yeah, I shot my cousin. I shot Amy The detect well, yeah, if you don't you can't force people to sign things But if they physically ready to record it, yeah, if we read it to you and you did it I mean there's workarounds there especially in rural Kentucky in 1999 it might be a little more, you know Precisely, so do you have to establish that they that they know it or that they heard it? I don't yeah, exactly that they've that they're understand and they were told is essentially all it is now the Police officer said he was cooperative. He was not upset So he was very kind of matter-of-fact Then the second interrogation they talked to him more at about 4 30 and he deke detailed the sequence of how everything happened And so the cop says quote he went through how he killed his mom and dad and then how he killed the Vincent's Yeah, they said when we talked about his mother His voice would break and he cried on and off. I felt bad about that one Yeah, they said the rights thing by the way They said first of all you understand what your rights are and you're in agreement with you still talk to me, right? And he said yes, and they said Terry we need to find your mom and dad They said he didn't say much of about that in the beginning and I said Terry Where's your mom and dad so he begins to tell me that his mom and dad? They were at what they were at what he called a wildlife refuge Okay, they're not place where he hunts and he left him out there Yeah, and they're not just like taking in the animals and taking pictures and shit. They're there Well, not looking at whatever foul is there this year. No, no, they're like let's move the new turkey babies. They're so cute He had beat his father with a baseball bat and he had shot his mother in the head with a ten gauge Well, she was sitting in the truck. That's why he feels bad That's why he feels bad. Yeah, and then he shot Joey because he said fucking if I already killed them Yeah, now I'm gonna kill Joey because I'm pissed off at him and fucking were Amy tried to get in the car to drive away And he shot her in the goddamn car. That's crazy That's fucking ridiculous Trooper in the room steps out of the room to dispatch a search team to the wetland area that they described and 15 feet off the road in standing water a state trooper finds Beverly weddings body 12 feet from her is Todd as well They're both obviously pronounced dead at the scene Terry Just talks about it with they said a surreal calm just completely calm The cops said he told me that he took his father out to the cemetery. He said that I beat him with the baseball bat and He had asked his mom He asked his dad to take him out to the cemetery to see his grandmother or something Yeah, you wanted to go see family so Todd said alright fine goddamn. I'll take you out to the fucking cemetery And he's taking him out there for this. Yeah Then they said how many times did you hit him with the bat? And they said so after you put your dad in the cemetery Did you go home and get your mother then and he said yes? And they said you were you in the truck when you shot your mom and he said quote She never they said you know she never saw what you were going to do when he said no so Terry had said Quote Joey first now I was watching for him. That's when I put it on and I sat there and She said she was sorry. She said Don't you hear me and I put Brooklyn behind the car and I shot her twice. Oh, so Amy was in the car saying whatever it is I'm sorry. I'm sorry And he said he calmly went and put Brooklyn behind the car came back and shot her which is cold blood of this fuck When they said were you angry that Joey helped were you mad at Joey and he said They said he said no No, he said he would get at one point He said he would get very angry during the interview and say no, that's not the reason That's not the reason because they kept saying because Joey took you in and he kept saying no like you don't you're not listening to me so What's the reason they don't know that's the thing he in his mind who the fuck knows he I guess it makes no sense Maybe he's his my list. Yeah, I don't know in his mind He he's articulated what the reason is but nobody can gather what the fuck he's saying But the way they look at it is all these are the four people who were involved in committing him last time it was Todd helped Joey chase Terry down Beverly was the one who called and Amy was the one who drove her to the courthouse Those four people are the cabal against him is the way he's looking at it So they said Terry was very angry that he had to go to Western State Joey was one of the officers who had chased him down because he ran and his father helped chase him down Amy and the mom went to the county's attorney's office to get the warrant. So he was upset with the whole bunch It was just a big revenge plot essentially here So they said that That's by the way, he didn't know Amy was pregnant either They hadn't even told they hadn't told that they hadn't told people yet about it So it was it was still I think maybe three months. So they hadn't told anybody yet. So he didn't know So they didn't and they didn't financially did the autopsy essentially Wow So apparently on Saturday June 26th Terry had approached his father and said he wanted to drive over to a nearby cemetery to visit his grandmother's grave So Todd agrees they get out and go in there Terry stayed home Terry had an aluminum baseball bat already put in the car ahead of time that Todd didn't know about It's isolated. He attacked him with the bat he then dumped Terry's body in the wetland and You know that was it. He said he'd been hit Terry told us he hit his father with a baseball bat and he shot his mother in the head with the 10 gauge Well, she sat in the truck then he drove back to Wimberley Lane and got Beverly He tells his mother he that he needs to she needs to come with him That's basically said you got to come with me. You got to come with me So they said that Beverly was already in her dodge pickup when Terry approached He shot his mother while she sat there and then took her to the Preserve and threw her in the wetland and threw her in the water as well and That was right. So yeah He drove at least one of the family vehicles the dodge and trepid back to the property and washed it out because he had shot his mother in there He stole about $1,200 in cash from his mother's belonging that inside the house set up all these rounds throughout the house and Concealed firearms behind a portable fireplace and stashed an additional weapon in the trunk of a geo prism parked at the house I bet yeah, let's see. But you haven't heard of that in a while 97 that was a useful vehicle. That was a very yeah, I just got a hatchback on that bad boy so yeah, he said he just shot him through the parents kitchen and from his from his Confession he said quote. I just I sat there. This is about Amy. She said she was sorry She was I said, don't you hear me and I put Brooklyn behind the car and I shot twice So That's fucking rough. He said I waited for the cops. They broke me through He said I gave her a banana. I gave her some ice cream. She was crying Now years later Brooklyn who survived this obviously said I think this Blurry like a dark hue over that day. Well, I don't remember I was told that not only did he spare me in a sense But he cared for me that day just like any family member would Which is strange, you know, and he still had like love for this baby They said that they're right now the cops said we're working on a motive We're trying to nail down anything that may be more obvious to those in the community So it just doesn't make sense. He said Joey's about as nice a person as you'd ever meet and he'd do anything for you So it doesn't make sense Adele said this quote this is grandma I kind of feel hard towards Terry and that's an awful thing for a grandmother to say we blame Western state We don't understand They shouldn't let him out, huh? We put him in there and then he came out and needed this so we don't know, you know what I mean They held all four funerals together on the same day Yeah, all the police officers came and they had flags and all that stuff. It was a big thing This is very much similar to the X tell Texas case. We had a couple weeks ago except a lot different See, I I liked it because it was a similar type of thing, but it could happen in a different way And it was yeah really really weird One of the library employees said I think everyone's just in shock You hear something like this about such a good bunch of people and you just don't believe it You know deep down. It's the truth, but your mind just won't let you believe it And Adele said I did go to the funeral on the visitation, but I didn't stay I went home to keep Brooklyn because we kept Brooklyn while all this was going on and I was sitting there rocking her I watched her mom and dad pass by the house and hers Meaning So she Terry's charged with four counts of murder. Yeah That's it. So four counts, um, he's arraigned here and also on one count of theft because he stole $1,200 He pleads innocent And there's that now Beverly's younger sister and Joey's mother Jean Here Jean and Johnny they end up raising Brooklyn. Yeah, by the way And basically they said they don't want the death penalty for Terry's they're like, we're gonna put them in the death penalty and This is the quote quote. Nothing is going to bring them back no matter what they do What's the point? I agree. So Terry wants a change of venue. He's like, oh my god Everyone in this town and everyone in this county knows about this shit. Uh, the judge denied the change of venue All right, we gonna keep it right here. Yeah now there's several basically During all this Once they decide that the trial is going to go forward in this county, terry decides he wants a plea Oh, he doesn't want to do that, huh? No, so they're gonna they're gonna have a plea They have several mental health people look him over and pretty much everybody said the same exact thing defense people prosecution people he's got bipolar. He's had two prior involuntary hospitalizations. Oh The defense one said he's not criminally responsible But as we know the it's a real thin line of what that is in court um, so basically they all said yeah, he's nuts, but You know, he's not doesn't know where not nowhere. He is not this type of thing doesn't not understand the You know consequences of his actions type of deal But they all say bipolar one disorder psychotic features That's what they all get. Um So he pleads guilty but mentally ill Which is distinct from not guilty by reason of of insanity Yeah, is it? Yeah, because this is a finding of guilt with full criminal liability plus a court determination that he's suffering a mental illness as well um, okay So there you go. He pleads guilty but mentally ill to four counts of murder and the commonwealth withdraws its death penalty notice and um, basically in in 1999 in kentucky, they uh, they said insanity defenses succeeded a national rate of well under one percent Yeah, you gotta be Which think about how very wary of using that think about how many bat shit crazy people they are It's way more than less than one percent. It's just people want vengeance and I get it. But you know, it's also Not really Words have definitions and mentally ill if they're mentally ill they're mentally ill. So what are we talking about at the same time? People also get a bad rap because there are lots of people that are just fine And they utilize that fucking defense because they just don't want the harsh Oh, yeah, that's what you gotta you gotta parse out between what's the problem Yep, um, so basically The uh, here comes down to sentencing you sir may fuck off life without parole on each of the four counts Oh boy, and then they also add in the theft count too. He's never getting out never getting out. No, wow um after the hearing um One of the officials here said he's a very sad and emotionally young man. He's lost so many members of his family that he loved That's a sacrifice so many I mean he shot them all. Yeah Now his uncle William Wedding, which is Todd's brother said he doesn't buy it And he doesn't buy the defense that he killed him because of mental illness either He says that's just something for terry to grab on to He said then and this guy's wife Oh, he also said that terry Terry had threatened to quote get him in march of 98. So he said he threatened me too Okay, and his wife said quote. This is his aunt quote. He's just mean he had the best parents anyone could ask for He's just mean is what they said Yeah, but then he also said if my brother could speak from the grave, I'm sure he'd say terry didn't mean it don't do nothing to him Yeah, so Yeah, um, you can't have both ways No, um Brooklyn said that, uh, you know, she was very thankful that he didn't kill her Um, she watched old footage on a documentary and said that's always such a weird clip for me to watch because you want to look at them and go Oh, yeah, that's just cousin terry, but instead you look at it and almost feel sick to your stomach Um, he goes for some appeals ineffective assistance of counsel not getting the appeal Uh, the failure to appeal the venue denial, which they probably should have also Some sat some statutory shit, but it's affirmed. He's staying in there Um, and she said this is brooklyn saying quote. I was born in july of 97 To two really excited parents. They were constantly doting over me. They were constantly playing with me I think surprising themselves with how much they could love a little human Yeah, and uh, she said this if I could talk to joey now, this is her father. I would say I miss you I hope uh, I hope i'm doing well. I hope i'm trying to help Um, and we're okay and thanks for the memories. So terry here, um incarcerated He basically yeah, they said he's been unstable. He's been stable and on medication since they arrested him. He's been fine I'm not gonna let him not take his shit. Yeah, um, but he's expressed remorse Saying that once he got put on medication. He quote realized what he had done at that point He was like, oh fuck. They said terry reportedly realized what he had done and immediately accepted responsibility The trailer's gone on wimberley lane joey and amy's trailer. Um, So everything else is still standing. Um, It's crazy man. Uh greenville police department had not had another officer killed in the line of duty Since then that's the first time and he wasn't even in the line of duty. He was right taking his kid to the hospital So there was a documentary called a wedding and four funerals Um investigation discovery. That was the oh, this was an investigation discovery episode of american monster title A wedding and four funerals here, which isn't a bad title. That's pretty good. Um, so there you go There is greenville depoit, whatever kentucky That shit is crazy That's what I mean. And this is just these little things that can just pop up that you don't even know about and uh In the middle of nowhere like that and yeah, it's just scary shit and uh Yeah, it was similar like I said had a similar kind of thing to the ax tell texas case and I was like, man That's just interest me that Similar but different. So if you go back and listen to that one, this is why you got to take care of your head, man This is crazy. Oh, it's yeah. I mean mental health is tough and and even if you are taking care But even if you're on the medication sometimes things happen, you know, and he went off his meds and then they couldn't get him back on and It's difficult mental health is done is tough. Yeah, take care of your shit everybody. So there you go. Anyway, there is kentucky If you enjoyed that crazy ass episode Definitely definitely give us five stars and whatever after you're listening on Absolutely, give a thumbs up or whatever on netflix do all that good stuff for us Head over to shut up and give me murder.com tickets for live shows here I don't think royal oak on may 30th has any left. 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