Spittin' Chiclets Episode 620: Featuring T.J. Oshie

Hey, Spittin' Chicklets listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle at the Barstool Sports. I brought it towards the Coyotes and I asked them if it was okay if I joined the Spittin' Chicklets podcast full-time. I'm a little bit old. Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. I have this on. Stand back or get that on camera. He can. The song man. Keith is a full-time member. Marley just got this from Chris Bates. Whoa, we're buzzing right now. Smoke. Welcome everyone to episode 620 of the Spittin' Chicklets podcast presented by Pink Whitney. Keith is in the middle of Colorado skiing his absolute balls off, drinking Pink Whitney up top of the hill. I've done the same. Biz is pointing to Canada, which I don't believe has Pink Whitney, so we can talk about that later. Check him out and get your middle finger out of the screen. It does in Quebec. Okay, Quebec. You don't have one player from Quebec on your team, but Pink Whitney's always there. Pink Whitney's in Italy, I believe, because a couple people maybe dragged it over in their bags from North America or the United States of Quebec, I should say. Everyone is out there drinking it. We thank you. We love you. And thank you so much to New Hampshire for making Pink Whitney. What, Biz? What? What? It stinks, we're kind of at war again, and I didn't like last four nations, it got real ugly, but it's that time of year. It's okay, I think that we should embrace the hate for one another, it got really snarky online very early, and it's like, you know what, fuck you, I'm not the 51st state, fuck you, lick my nuts, and congratulations on your win against Latvia. Thank you. Congrats on your win against Czechia. And I didn't think I got that snarky. And listen, we're going to go kind of what's happened most recent. It is Monday, 549 Eastern. The U.S. just wrapped up their win. We're going to go to the games today, and then we'll go back into tomorrow, the games that kicked off the tournament. In terms of the snarkiness, listen, this news broke about Team Canada not staying in the Olympic Village. and whatever. Least surprising thing I've ever heard. It's not surprising, but I will admit. I know it's not surprising because that's what they did the last two times they won the gold. I'm pretty sure in 2010 they were in the village. I'm almost positive they were. But I'm not going to talk shit. Now, if you guys don't win, I will talk endless amounts of shit. Of prima donnas. That would be regardless of that. What do you mean? Yeah, but this will be like my biggest talking point. Too good for the Olympic Village. Like that would be one of my fucking virus going around. I think chlamydia is fucking buzzing. They're not supplying the rubbers, I guess. So why were you over there? Coronavirus or something. Coronavirus. Is that what they're calling it? I think it's G. I'm not a doctor, but I just I'd rather than not get something that like the Swedish women's team got and that they were snapping around. It was the Finnish women's team. who then like they delayed the game against Canada women. And I was like, that kind of should be a forfeit. I think if Canada was sick, like they would have been like, no, you're playing. So shout out Canada. Very classy. I heard. Listen, I'm not trying to create any fucking drama. I heard that they were getting bunked up next to the long jump skiers. And these guys have been injecting their cocks with fucking whatever steroid that's on the market. The new steroid. Beyond peptides. we're talking i don't know i don't even know the name of it so they didn't want any association so they booked themselves into the four seasons in italy so i don't know what else to tell you now now g is saying according to yahoo sports in 2010 they were at a hotel as well that's why i just wanted to get too quick would you change anything up no if you were winning okay so so one i got you there yans you used to fucking get a new pair of socks put them on the same exact way before every goddamn game, you used to step on each individual mat that you had to on the way out. If there's a man of routine that's on this podcast, I'm staring at him right fucking now with that USA hat. I stayed at the same hotel as my teammates and my country mates. Okay. No, you stayed at the same hotel as your teammates. Your teammates. If it was a big deal, I would have stayed at a different hotel because back then we were at Weston's. Why aren't the Canadian women team at that nice, beautiful five-star? Listen. Are they not? I wasn't going to spill the beans, but the reason they're staying at the fucking hotel is because all of Jarvis' buddies took off all the bunks in the Olympic Village. Okay. That makes sense. All right. All right. I got that out there. But you're fucking grilling me now. Okay. Okay. Thanks for coming clean. The quick... Oh, is that the Jarvard University? That's hilarious. I got this sent to me after he corrected my word on national television. What did I say? I don't even remember. I don't remember that. Oh, advantageous. I added a couple of things. So imagine if Jarvis did apply to Harvard. I'd pay to see that application and, like, the essay you have to write. Just to see the guy reading his application, being like, is this guy serious? His thesis is how I built a fence in my parents' backyard. Got all my buddies to do it, and then I paid for it. so the hatred between us did begin, because I just tweeted you, Pete, you're not on Twitter, I retweeted the New York Post article about Team Canada decided to stay away from all the other athletes in the Olympics, and I said, Biz, not your style, Biz will stay at Motel 6 gladly, like, he'll ask us to do it, and Biz came back, he brought up Bad Bunny, he brought up, like, I was like, whoa, what the fuck's going on? Look at Yanz's face as if you haven't already teed him up for it. come on swear to god he hasn't i swear swear swear on your kids you have not read the tweets where are my children where to god okay all right fair enough yeah no no no no hands are truly off twitter we never go like back channels to then like i plan anything against you that is not an honorable podcast move like if i'm gonna come at you or he's gonna come you i'll never tell him prior and that's another square that's another square that's not fair so i need to hear this beef. He came back at me. I'm going to fucking subpoena your phones. He's like, we're not fucking, our country's not falling apart because a guy sang at the Super Bowl. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. But you know what? No, that's not what it said. That's not what it said. I said, if you want to make an issue out of nothing, like you guys always fucking do, it's always something you're making an issue out of, go do it. I said, they did this the last two times. It's a nothing burger story that they're trying to make it as if they'll, oh, team Canada's too cool. It's like, You're right. If you watch that fucking game today, we are fucking too cool. And we're in a different fucking class than you. And if you watch with your eyeballs and you turn your brain on, you would see that we're an absolute fucking force. And if we met in the finals, we're going to fucking bend you so fucking far over. No spit, no lube, sandpaper finish. I saw it with my own fucking eyes today. Everybody who's listening, watch those two. Chex's a better team. You guys were tied after one against Latvia. Don't even know what all the time is. You're bumping in a goalie like you're Sam Bennett trying to score goals. That one was brutal. Okay, so I want to get into that. Well, we'll get into that when we get to the U.S. I got your mind in a pretzel, baby. No, you don't. I wanted to pump your tires. They look incredible today, Team Canada. Now, when we get to U.S., I thought they looked phenomenal as well. The Canadian team, those lines that they keep throwing over the boards, it's pretty fucked up. I'm not going to lie. It's very, very insane to see like, oh, here comes the fourth line. You're like Stanley Cup, Conn Smythe. You're just like, boy, your head's spinning around. And the Czechs who, yeah, a team who I think could maybe upset some people. It was close a little bit early on. It was a great first period, just like the U.S. laughing game. And that's what made me happy. I was like, oh, fuck. They started taking over the last five minutes. Until McKinnon zinged one through with Celebrini, who we'll get to. But keep going, Woody. So that was Makar, actually. Yeah, that was the first goal. Oh, Makar, sorry. And the tweet you sent over, incredible. So Macklin Celebrini has scored in his first USHL game, his first college hockey game, his first NHL game, and his first Olympic game. That's a resume. He's playing on the wing with, sorry, McDavid's his center. He's on the wing. Then we got Tom Wilson. We talked about those lines on last episode. And what happens early on? I look in the corner and see a Czech guy getting completely hammered through the glass. I'm like, oh, Wilson's already doing his thing. It was McJesus. McJesus, baby. Everybody, all hands on deck, boys. All hands on. Freight train coming through. I didn't plan on seeing McDavid running people's head through the wall. But once that happened, and then Wilson, I think in the next period, or maybe that period, I mean, he got Gutis. And you don't see Gutis get got. You really don't. You see him just hammering guys left and right. And Wilson's doing his thing and runs him over. And then the one thing I did want to say. So I believe one goal was scored. Was it McKinnon assisted by McDavid and Crosby, right? I think it was McCarr. Who got it? It was on the power play. The one back door. Yeah, but wasn't there also a goal? Unless they changed it, I saw someone basically like, I'm cumming my jeans right now, and they showed the stat bar. And it was those three guys. Was it you? Okay, there was. I was like, you know what? I don't really need you today. This is far dirtier and more explicit. The first goal was Celebrini from McCarr and McDavid. and the fourth goal was McKinnon from McDavid and Crosby. You're literally looking at guys who may go down as some of the best players to ever play, just connecting on goals. So in that aspect, Canada, they're unlike anyone else. We all know it. We all saw it today. You can puff your chest as big as you want because you're from Canada and you have the right to. They should kick the fucking Prime Minister out of his house and be sleeping in his fucking bed the way that they're playing. Like, come on. After one game, just right into the ambassador's suite. Oh. So I did notice at one point in the first period, Bennett, in the most classic Sam Bennett accidentally on purpose, like ran into Dostal, who Dostal was the wary, right? He's like, this guy could, in a one game, and when we get into the elimination round, like, I don't really want to face him. I think that they'll look way better. They just had to play Canada. But Bennett with a classic, just like, oh, whoopsie-daisy. And, Biz, you said it already. Like, Stolarz, he still hasn't recovered from what he did to him in the playoffs. So you have that aspect. Well, he's healed. He just has PTSD. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, when he sees people come through the crease, it's just like. Anywhere near it. The tune's a little different with Biz, too. When you talk about Bennett, if he hits someone on his Toronto Maple Leafs, he's causing a scene. But if he's doing it for Canada, that's fine. And then he's staying in a suite by himself. No, I still think he's Hannibal Lecter and he needs to be wheeled out there with a face mask on. I am not. I do not agree with your statement right there. If they put him in an Italian prison right now, I would be like, ah, I kind of get it. That's where he's staying in between games. He came into the Super Bowl. I mean, he came in like Matt Collins did to the Super Bowl, to the first game of the Olympics. But, Biz, a bummer in that Josh Morrissey left the game. I know. Did you see what happened to him? No, didn't really see it. No. Sucks though because I love his game. He's very quick to close. Good long stick. Good first pass. Normally leaned on to provide offense for his team, but doesn't have to there. So I feel like he's matched up perfectly. So definitely a tough loss. But if it's something that's day-to-day, the few games they got left in this division aren't exactly fucking going up against. It's a U.S., Sweden, or Finland type thing. But to me, you mentioned it first, it's all about that forward group. Like that is scary. They are driving. You could throw them a grenade and they'll make it work. Like just the chemistry they have. I didn't know how the Marner Crosby chemistry in stone, like that looked unbelievable. They're just all dialed in. And then you see this first line, and clearly McDavid, he was very appreciative of Wilson's game afterward, just saying, like, you know, creating so many turnovers. Four-check God, he called him. Four-check God. I thought that maybe that was like AI or something. He looked more happy and cheerful. And granted, they just won 5-0, and he had three assists. I've never seen McDavid, like, do an interview like that. It was like, yeah, I guess playing with like 14 Hall of Famers possibly makes you that happy. Because, yeah, 4-Check God is like an Eddie Murphy level comedy line by McDavid. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to pass off the duties of being with Jesus. He's like, no, he's now your God, Canada. And then Celebrini, he even pumped his tires saying how many, like how unreal he is and how he was just keeping so many different plays alive. like Celebrini like say what you want about all of his flashy skill set but he's so sticky on the walls he's able to just like the way he positions his feet sometimes he's got his heels against the boards and you're just like he just always finds a way to come up with the puck um but uh but then once you've gotten past Wilson on the forecheck you're like okay but then as you mentioned then you got the fourth line coming out and you're like oh no just coming at you in waves and waves And when a guy like McDavid's bought in and he's throwing the body early, it, it just like, it puts a big smile on your face. You're like, Oh, okay. These guys aren't fucking easing into this thing, dipping their toe. How's the water? They're going full steam ahead. And then when they were up, they did not let off the gas and just kind of roll four lines. And I think the one question mark, dull coming in boys was Bennington. He was tested in that one. That was 26 shots on net. And I would say that in the first half of the game, there was probably, you know, three four grade a opportunities and you see how they were testing them from the wall like they were just kind of throwing the shit burgers on net so very happy with the way that turned out and um it was pretty cool i read something i sent it to the group chat about how a few weeks ago uh tampa was in st louis and he reached out to bennington and he went for a couple guinnesses or whatever bar they were at or maybe it was the other way around uh bennington in st louis was in Tampa and either way they met up had a couple beers and just how much like um Coop wanted to communicate to Bennington it's like we have all the confidence in the world in you like I know it's been a topic of conversation and we're just talking shop here like everybody else would right I was like ah you know probably the worst stats going as far as like goaltenders in the NHL who are lugging big minutes and like that's no it's not a good barometer coming in but uh big game goalie showed you why and pretty funny uh quotes from coop after like how long did you know that he's your starter and i think he said 358 days ago i knew that he was going to be my starter at the olympics so he left the media to last minute to tell them who was starting but he knew a year ago so pretty cool great first day and very proud of the way the boys played let's stay humble here i know we were fucking around off the top biz go just going back to the you know mcdavid pumping Wilson's tires and Bennett and guys like that. Like when people complain about guys like Bennett and Wilson making an Olympic team like that, it's when you see comments like that, when the best player in the world, those guys know what it takes to win. They know they need players like that on your team. And how cool is it for a guy like Tom Wilson, who, you know, obviously he's an amazing player, but he's not at that level. Right. And he's getting complimented by those guys. That's going to make him want to be even better than he already is. So unreal leadership job by McDavid. They're just even getting guys to buy in even more. And then they can, you know, enjoy themselves at the four seasons tonight. Yeah. I just kind of wanted to keep that conversation going. Like, I think that these guys appreciate guys that aren't just like them. Like, they need something that's different. It's the same reason that McDavid would be saying the same thing every game, post-game, about Hyman, right? These guys are willing to do things that other guys aren't, and also that's not easy. Like Tom Wilson, he's skating the red line in warm-up. Every scrum where they're on the ice, he's making sure he's the one who's visible, he's the one joshing back and forth, so McDavid could just worry about what the fuck his job is once the puck drops. So pretty remarkable, and that's just a great point by you, Yance, I'm picking that out. You're the best. You were complimenting. I think if you ask Marchand, his pass to Horvat, beautiful move by Horvat. He was flying through the middle. You were really raving about the pass. I think even Brad Marchand would say it was probably the most standard, like, 20-foot pass he's ever made in his life. Like, I'm more blame Horonic there. Even Brian Boucher did a great job. Or Edzo did a great job. Like, what's he doing there? Like it was kind of like that was Ronick getting sucked in. But the reason, so the reason I complimented the pass was it started before that he shoulder checked, gotten a perfect spot for when the defenseman rounded the net. So he created his own separation when he got it. He did have time to just kind of hang out and stay still. He didn't, he started sprinting to the red line. So if he didn't have the option to pass, he could have dumped it in. And then I think that that, That him challenging the red line is why Roenick decided to go up and try to close and to get him before the red line, hoping that that guy would swing and support underneath. So by Brad Marshall getting low, shoulder checking, and then taking his ice when he needed to, that's what created the confusion between that four checker forward swinging across and that defenseman trying to get up and close the gap. As a defenseman, you feel like a loser when you have that much separation, and all of a sudden he's just kind of skating up. Should he have stayed patient and stayed within the dots? Sure. But it's just that kind of like, okay, nobody's there, nobody's there. All right, I guess I'll go. And boom. And then he laid it in perfectly. And then I think McDavid also complimented Horvat. We're saying, that's like some sneaky speed because he was fucking flying. I didn't realize he was that fast. So that's kind of what I meant by that. So sometimes things get misconstrued via the tweets, as you know, about my bad bunny, bad bunny one. OK, also, Crosby was talking about the Marshawn pass to stone. I'm sorry, Marner passed the stone. And that was to get to get that thing in the air, but then also have it land that quick. He had to get it pretty high, and then to get it to come down that quick to stone, that was an insane pass. Beautiful play there. I think he went forehand quick to backhand, too. Yeah, he did. So he had to kind of move it fast and still execute it. That's the type of pass where I felt like I walked in on my wife getting slammed. But it was your country that scored. I know, but you get what I'm saying. Kind of like the one that got away. just like oh oh i'll bring it up okay you're going back to nhl you're going back to nhl yeah just kind of like right it benefits me yeah because i because i had the prenup but i still lose my girl still walked in lose kind of like yes lost the dog but those those are those plays like especially in these type of tournaments best on best at like those are the most fun plays to watch when these guys make those because they're always in the right position when the best are playing with the best like even like the goal with my no we'll get to it matthew and brady could check like little plays like that where you you don't see those as much in a regular season nhl game as you do here you're seeing them pretty much every shift because it's best players on the ice at all times so those to me are the funnest plays to watch during tournaments like this um one other thing the the post from one of the flyers fan i think he's the producer of the nasty knuckles podcast like obviously the flyers fans have been hilarious through this whole Meechkov thing. It's the best thing on Twitter right now. By the way, Hook, Line, and Sinker, I have you fucking guys fucking tweeting at me the minute you wake up to the minute you go to bed. Thank you for all your engagement. Oh, this is what Pronger was saying on the Spittin' Chicklets podcast. I thought Prongs was saying... Whatever, go ahead. Sorry. No, I think he was kind of defending them. They want Prongs as their GM now. President and GM, I believe. Prongs did say, just call the guy. I can't do the Meachcock talk anymore. I can't. I can't do it. But when they showed Talkit with the whiteboard, is that what you're going to mention? Talkit has the whiteboard talking across me, and then the nasty knuckles producer has a quotation. Did you see that Meachcock showed up at camp out of shape? Oh, fuck. This is a gift that keeps on giving. I hope that he plays under 10 minutes the rest of the season, and I'm going to be like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm going to be beating the goddamn drum. I think it would be more entertaining for us if he played like 22 minutes a game and didn't light it up because then they would have nothing. And then you actually may get some Flyers fans coming to you and being like, I can't believe we went from Team Canada dominating Czech to Miechkov already. Or we go to Tocq. How are we talking? And I'm in the beat writer room when Tocq walks in. I got a Miechkov jersey on and I'm just laying into him like, why didn't you play him 20 minutes? I don't give a fuck. why is he playing his offside? We're not talking about Mishkov in Russia. They're not in the tournament. Or some insane journalist somehow cracks the code of your phone and sees that you and Toc have actually been in conversation about you really carving them and that's the real story that you've been doing what Toc said and they were all right. I'm Petey. I put a mask on and I'm doing the video breakdowns. He asked the question in the chat to talk about Bennington. Do you think this makes teams more likely to trade for him at the deadline? No doubt. If I was Edmonton, I'd be fine. I would be doing anything. No, I want the Italian. But I didn't know that he's, like, signed or drafted by the Ducks. And then right after I tweeted, can the Oilers get this guy? He got hurt. So that was a classic. The way the Italians get things done, he'll be getting to you by June once the run's over. He shows up as the cup's being handed out to another team. He's like, Italian air was supposed to have the airplane done 18 months ago. The ring does look good on TV, though. It does. They actually should have had the Olympics there and not brought the players in North America. I can admit when I'm wrong. Okay, good. If Binnington goes on and they do win the gold and he looks like that, yeah, there had to be GMs even before this saying he's a big game goalie, like, yeah, I've got to take a risk, but if he does that, now, granted, he's playing in front of the fucking Harlem Globetrotters, but still, he made a bunch of big saves today. If he's able to win a gold medal as a starter, yes, G, I think that makes teams way more likely to want to trade for him. Yeah, I don't think teams ever wouldn't want him just because of what you said earlier, even about Coop, knowing that he's going to be his guide, just because St. Louis hasn't been great this year, maybe he wasn't great last year, not great this year, he's still got that dog DNA in him that any team would want. How many other fucking goalies worse than him are making $6 million? He's not even making that much for a guy you know can get it done. And somebody actually posted a tweet saying, I think it was, God, it was a Toronto media guy. He just started back up a podcast. He's great. Illuminati. I'll get his name. I think it's Shapiro or something. I'll get it. But he said, if he gets, why are you laughing? He said Illuminati. sometimes when my my wheels are cranking and my hamster's going i can't hear what you're speaking of that keith and i we had a big time moment of that and not listening to you you called okay we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that but the tweet said if if bennington wins olympic gold i think he's a hall of famer and i agree fuck what buddy stanley cup champion. He was fucking electric during playoffs. Probably could have easily just got the Conn Smythe as Ryan O'Reilly. And now he's going to win a gold medal if he goes on to be. Chris Osgood won a Stanley Cup. You're saying the gold medal doesn't? I don't know. Fucking Carey Price is going to be a Hall of Famer. He doesn't have a cup. He's got a cup of gold. Carey Price, he got a gold medal. He was unbeatable in 2014. I don't think you could compare those two. No. If he plays another six years, you can. Yeah, not with the stats from this year, though. I mean, buddy, what do people care more about? Do they care more about a couple bad off years, but then they outweigh it with a Stanley Cup run and a gold medal? I don't know. It's hard. It's what you value more, man. I mean there's guys who have had 3-4 years of pure domination and got into the Hall of Fame. Anyway we're kind of getting sidetracked. I said Harvey or not Harvey I said Walker I said Bernie Sanders instead of Barry Sanders last podcast. We missed that Keith. He goes he looks like he's running like Bernie Sanders. And a politician. I fucked up. I'm so mad I missed that one too. Bernie Sanders could buzz too. I remember seeing his 40 when he came out of college. Yeah, he was flying around. Me and Bernie. Me and Bernie hitting the hash pipe. He was a burner. He was a burner when he played on and off the field. But that was very funny. So Canada looks great. That's their toughest game of the round, Robin. Gee, do me a quick favor while I go over to the United States game and look up, because it's going to matter. If the U.S. and Canada both go 3-0, that's nine points, right? But to get the number one seed, it's more points. And then what is the next tiebreaker, G? Check that out for me. It might be goal differential, goal four, because that's going to make a big difference. So our room's bunked in the Olympic Village. Who stays at the nicest hotel away from every other athlete in the Olympics? I think it goes by thread count. Who do you think makes that call, by the way, the players or the Team Canada? I think Team Canada gave the players the option, is what I read. By the way, they're brutal rooms. But Canadians being like, well, I get Canadians saying, listen, all we do is win. Why would we change anything up? 100% get that. But then I see people chirping, let the Kachuk brothers put their beds together, like Eichel had mentioned. I also really enjoyed the Olympic Village. It is not five-star living. It is tiny little beds. So the argument of sleeping well and getting the rest and being physically and mentally where you need to be to win the gold medal, like, yeah, there's an argument for that. But I don't respect or understand the chirping of the United States being there. No. What about the noise? Is there a noise thing? Like, is it loud in there? Who's chirping them for staying at the fucking village? I saw a couple things chirping the Kachuk brothers about putting them together. Yeah, the people bitching about Meechkov's ice time. Same guys. hey and let let a let it be known if i was on team canada which you know would never happen i would be staying with jarvis's buddies at the olympic village like i would be there so i'm not like we talked about i would stay at a motel six yes i would like to do that but probably a lot different for like team canada guys getting bothered by other canadians like they're they're Elvis like Sidney Crosby is Elvis to them so that would just be hard and a little bit wearing where you're trying to make everybody's like hello to them the you know the best experience of their life which that's how those guys are it would suck the living life out of you man they got hockey to worry about so that's the the pushback and if you're saying that that's soft then sure whatever um but hey to glaze the United States before we even get to the men's the the the Canadian men's beat down Czech like the United States women beat down the Canadian women the other day. That was bad. I think that whole rivalry has flipped. It's done. I think, yeah, we are trying to get to the top of the mountain with the men, and we're close, but we haven't done it. I think we flipped it on the women's side, and we went young. We went with the young legs. We're flying around out there, and Canada went with a little more veteran team. but that was I mean you didn't have Poulain in the game lower body injury from the game before I think that those girls would have a good chance against the Latvian men they might be some of them might be bigger that Layla Edwards who do you think would beat the Latvian men I was just I was just fucking around I was going to maybe ask that too but it's that Abby Murphy girl is it Murphy who had that assist for Minnesota, too. She's dominant. I saw a funny tweet because Billy G was pumping her tires. That's my new favorite player. There was a tweet like, he would have left her at home for JT Miller and Trocek. The people can't get over that. I thought JT Miller looked good today, too, besides getting that goal called back. But yeah, U.S. women could see a rematch in that game for the gold medal. They might have flipped this thing on its head. The U.S. women are staying at the Four Seasons. Oh, they are? Yep. Good for them. That's where they're at right now. Okay, so, yeah, when you dominate everyone else like the way Canada has in men's, you get the five-star in Italy. You don't get – now, the Village does have a 24-7 McDonald's. I don't know – or they did in Vancouver. I don't know how many Canadian men's hockey players are crushing Mickey D's that often, but I certainly was. I was hammering that place nonstop. Probably explains why I played about a minute. I was the Philippe Forsberg, Oliver Ekman Larson of the United States. Yeah, what's that about? Well, we'll get into that. First, I want to talk about our country business. Okay. I want to talk about a great effort. Yeah. Crazy to see the goals called back. The first one that was called back, offsides by Nelson. I believe that was the Quinn Hughes snipe. I get it. Although the camera angle, you couldn't really tell. I don't know if they had a different one in Canada in that broadcast, but it was like there was almost the stick of I don't know who it was. The Latvian player was like blocking if Nelson's foot was in before the puck. They decided that it was. That goal was taken off to make it 2-0. They come right back down and score. It's like, whoa, okay. I mean, that's a huge difference right there. And then the next one, this is the issue that we could kind of have moving forward is the difference in how they're calling the around the crease parts of the game. Well, we don't know in the NHL either, so pump the brakes. No, very true. We don't know, but I think this is just that much more strict where they can even blow the play dead right away if they see a guy in the crease bumping the goalie. So I did see a tweet here that face-offs and crease play may look different. This is IHF rules where around the net, referees may stop play if an attacking player establishes position. So I just said that. Good job, Witt. But I didn't really see Miller do that much there. Maybe just the fact that he's in the crease. But there was no, like, bumping into Merzlikens, I didn't think. Biz, did you like that call? You look like you're fucking smirking. No, no, buddy, I'm not smirking at all. I assumed that it was going to be called back. Really? Which is kind of tight, though, because, buddy, you're asking me my opinion. I was about to tweet a stonk gif on top of you posting about it and then I'm like no I don't want to get too cocky and I need to let you guys enjoy your moment and your game so I was the better person there pat on the back to me but yes I did think it was going to be and definitely think it's a little bit softer than NHL so that's where I'll leave it because it didn't look like he like bumped into him and didn't allow him to get to his spot. I guess it was more like he was just there. Those rules I don't understand because at the end of the day, in the NHL, to score goals, you have to go to the net. You have to have guys in front of the net. I didn't think Nosey was really impeding the goalies' way to be able to save or to get to his position. I thought it was going to be a goal 100%, but obviously wrong once again. But U.S., they looked great. Even when it was 1-1 at the end of the first, I'm like, oh, they looked awesome. They had two goals called back. Yeah, the one goal kind of guy busts in into the middle, and Eichel went to clear it and hit one. I think he might have hit Faber or whoever the defenders was, skate. Guy buries it. All right, good job. I do think it was insane. That hit that Matthews, I don't know how that – I kind of was scared right away. He might be concussed. Later on, he whiffed on a one-timer. And then that Smiths kid, that 18-year-old defenseman, kind of buried him a little bit. Albert Smiths, I guess he could be a very high pick. Looked pretty good, actually. Yeah, he looked like he had a busy brain there. He had a five-minute shift at one point. He was dying. But the U.S. cycle game. And we don't have the forwards the United States has, but we got some players. And Jack Hughes. Now, Devilsman. He looked great. Pasha, hop on here quick, Pasha. Oh, no. He looked great, man. Oh, no. He looked fucking awesome. He looked awesome. He was light in another tunnel here. Devils fans are furious that he wasn't playing. And then I imagine even more angry seeing how good he looked today. Do you not see where he's coming from a little bit? Yes, I get paid millions of dollars. But my team's a dumpster fire. They stink. I heard he unfollowed them on Instagram. This is the Olympics best on best. I'm not going to deal with this garbage team that can't score goals. I'm going to take these final few games off and then be ready for Milan. Do you agree with that? I heard he was poopy pants about the crop job online. Okay, there's a lot of things to address here. First of all, I think it was just like the timing of it, like a day-to-day injury leading up to the Olympics. I think optically it looks bad. I don't think he was like, I'm pulling a shoot on the devil's season, saving it for the Olympics. Okay, so most fans saying that, you're like, stop, guys, stop. Yes. I don't know what this is. I'm going to sore groin from changing Tate McCrae's nationality. How would he get a soy ground from that? But, listen, I mean, even if he was somewhat playing it safe to save himself for the Olympics, like, no, I don't blame him. I'm not mad at him. The Devils are a complete fucking joke. Why would he want to play one more shift under Sheldon Keefe? Guy's a fucking joke. Whoa. No. Jesus Christ. I mean, that's nothing new. I asked you a month ago, and he did Keefe's The Issue, and he was like, no, no. He's completely off his... The group chat lately could have him in an insane asylum. This is nice. Yeah, no, I did defend Keith, but that's changed a lot. But no, I'm not mad at Jack. The fans chirping Jack. I think it was just unfortunate timing with the day-to-day thing. I'm happy he's there. He looks incredible. And this is the guy that you and Yan said that shouldn't be on the fucking team. So he's going to continue making it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. He looked a little out of place according to you. Never. Ever said that. Do you want me to quote the text? Do you want me to pull up the text? I'll pull up the video. I'll pull up the video saying at one point that this is a guy that is so good, so skilled, so fast, that to win the gold medal, we need him to be an elite level, the Jack Hughes we've all seen. That's how good he is. Okay? There was times with the injuries and last year's Four Nations where even you said he did not look great. He looked a little bit overwhelmed in those games. I never said that. He was playing against Latvia today. that's fair I just want to keep bringing you guys back down to planet earth that is fair you never said he looked overwhelmed in the four nations that year no I never said he looked overwhelmed that was you I'll pull up the tape on that too I said his under the hood metrics were quite solid defensively and he was putting pucks on a platter for guys who weren't burying today they happened to bury he was I would say middle of the pack in terms of their forwards Everyone was acting like, oh, my God, he was terrible, overwhelmed. No, he was middle of the pack. Was he elite like he can be? No, definitely not. But I never said he was overwhelmed. And I think he was actually solid. If guys could bury the chances that he put on a platter, he'd be better. Just like on the Devils, no one could fucking bury a chance that he tees up for them. I love how we planted Pasha the Mole in this USA talk. Yeah. To kind of disrupt it. Just like we planted Tate McRae. This was fucking gorgeous. Don't forget, this is a guy born and raised in Vancouver, correct? who, when Canada won a World Junior game last year, said, Fuck! So this is not a guy who can sit there and say he's rooting for Canada. A World Junior game? Oh, this is just getting ugly. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can I go to the bathroom? Walking into the 7-Eleven next to the hotel. Don't even fucking start this, Pasha. Can we get surveillance? Pasha? Pasha? Pasha? Pasha? Look me in the eye and tell me that you didn't do that. Pasha? No, he's the guy behind the register that looked like Pasha. We're keeping that. Yeah, he had money on check. Oh, fuck. Listen, Pasha, the other thing we want to bring up. Okay. So the Devils retweet a picture that I believe USA Hockey tweeted of the Kachuk brothers and the Hughes brothers. All right. Beautiful picture. I mean, when Matthew gave that pass to Brady, I actually said to my wife, imagine playing with your brother in the Olympics. That's awesome. It's so cool. And they got this picture of the two brothers playing together, two sets, and the devil's retweeted and Quinn Hughes is cut out of the picture, but he's not even – it's a hack job where his left leg is still in the picture. I was like, what is going on here? Now it turns out this is a running – maybe the worst running joke. I don't even get it where any picture that Quinn is with Jack, the devils don't include Quinn. So, gosh, I'm asking as a fan. He's so funny. Can you explain the joke? No wonder the trade didn't go down. Thanks the media team When it was first posted yeah I had a bunch of people text me and say what is this And I was like what the fuck Like this is very strange especially the fact that like they didn even try to make it look realistic So I was with you. I was like, this is really weird. Bush League. But then I came to found out it's a running joke, which I don't think is funny whatsoever. But also, like, read the room. Like, you just fumbled a trade for him. He's still, like, you're still holding out hope for him to come sign there. So, like, the joke wasn't funny before. It's especially not funny now. So, like, honestly, you know, right now my fire list is Keith, Fitzy, new ownership. Their social media team might have to be out of that list. Oh, wow. No. Hey. Gaffing the admin, boys. Hey. What about this gap and stuff? Everybody at New Jersey Devils admin, I do not speak for this podcast. This guy is unhinged. No, he wants everyone fired. I've seen him edit sandbaggers. I thought maybe it was him who edited the photo. I thought he was working Devils admin. but yeah not not a funny read the room devil's admin not that was not funny public knowledge that they fumbled the quinn hughes trade is that public have we discussed that in pasha world like well i mean i think it's obvious like the guy wanted to play for the devils like literally the devils just couldn't make the trade out but like i mean on what planet is that not a fumble i believe we gotta get back to team usa guys yeah yeah thanks Thank you so much. That was highly entertaining. Who were the three most impressive players for you guys on USA Today, just from watching dominance, who you're more excited to watch moving forward against a harder competition? I'll go Thompson, Brock Nelson, and I really like Noah Hannafin. Didn't do anything crazy, but I thought he was good defensively. He's a big hit on the boards at one point. Huge hit. Yeah, so I thought I'd take those. because, yeah, I mean, you can always choose the big dogs. I need Eichel to shoot the puck a little more. Oh, dude, I know. And the announcer said it. Did that? Yeah, the TB I have didn't have the announcing on, but he needs to be a threat. He's got such a good shot. Obviously, he's a great facilitator too, but, yeah, I thought those guys were great. I thought the goal that Tate Thompson scored on the power play was incredible. You know, his big body getting in the way. I think he's going to be one of those guys too when you're playing the bigger and better teams. he's going to get even better. Brock Nelson is just one of those guys, man. Like, if you have the hockey IQ, he obviously isn't the fastest guy, hardest shot, whatever. This is nothing against him. But he is just so smart. He makes everybody better. And he's probably one of those guys that everyone in that locker room wants to play with. And I thought he was great. I mean, he got two goals or one goal called back and had two. So could have had the Hattie, right? So, yeah, I thought those were my three guys that were great. and Noah made a ton of good defensive zone plays, good passes. I thought he was stellar. A couple clicks for Yaz on that fucking breakdown with full respect. I thought that just leading into the games, it's like, please, can he continue this? I'm sure he will. Quinn Hughes is ridiculous. It is watching him skate with the puck and the plays he makes, it is unreal what he could do. He just controls everything when he's out on the ice. We've seen him do it for years in the NHL. But as the game began and you see him buzzing around, getting point shots through, it's like I totally forgot. We didn't even have him last year, right? We didn't even get the chance to see him play in Montreal and Boston. And the difference of having him, and he is the guy that's kind of starting that first unit power play. And then Wierenski, too. He wheels the net a couple times. I texted the group. He fucking flies as well. Merle said he skates like me. Merle. So that is true. I've seen and heard people say, yeah, he skates like Matt Murley, just floating out there on the ice. Murl's invented skating, so why wouldn't Quinn Hughes skate like him? And also, like, I think that the Kachuk brothers playing together with Eichel in the middle, it's just that they're so smart. They're so good out there. Like, the little pass on the Brady goal was beautiful. A couple other little plays that they make that don't look like anything crazy but create, like, tons of time and space for the other guy. It's really cool to see. We don't have the forwards of Canada, but I thought the line combinations looked awesome. JT Miller was doing well. He got in there. I mean, obviously, he gets that goal taken away, but it was a sick pass he made to Quinn Hughes on that goal that got taken away. So everyone looked good. I mean, there isn't one guy. I was like, ah, he's kind of not fitting in here. I think that JT and Troach kind of fall in that place, like we talked about, the Bennett and the Wilson. A lot of people on the outside are just trying to vouch for their guys, like Dallas Stars fans and probably Canadians fans. Would you say that those are the two biggest uproars, Cole Caulfield and Jason Robertson? Yeah, and then Lane Hudson was in there. Yeah, but as far as the forwards, I just think that against Canada in a final, I think that those guys are maybe a little less intimidated and can fill a need that you don't have to combat what now, You have to play for who you're playing against, too. So if you're looking at Bennett and Wilson in the eye, you're saying, who are the two guys that are just going to be pieces of shit that, yeah, JT Miller might get beat up by Tom Wilson, but he doesn't really give a fuck. He's still going to go at them second, third time. He's a dog, right? So, yeah, I was very impressed with those guys and completely understand the move. So a little tire pump there. Was there anything else I was going to ask you guys, Team USA? say well that that Larkin line is great and Boosh was talking about them or Edzo um like Larkin and Thompson and then right now it's Kyle Connor who looked really good and he's so fast right that it like fits in well with Larkin the way he plays Larkin probably he ended up he might have been the best player on the U.S. last year in the four nations so having that is like an incredibly skilled like checking line in quotations that's awesome I also could maybe see because obviously there's some parts of Connor's game that maybe Mike Sullivan isn't a fan of. The only reason I say it is him not playing the final game. Maybe you see Clayton Keller, like, slide in there if he's looking at anything. But Connor was great today. No reason to switch anything up. But that line. I think Kells is also just happy being there. I know that he doesn't feel slighted. You know, hey, man, I'd fill the water bottles if I had to to be here kind of mentality. And what's that? That was what Horvat said after the game. No, I know, buddy. That's why I said type of mentality. Everybody says that. I fucking literally did that for five fucking years. I invented that fucking quote, man. I am the living embodiment of that quote. Girls invented that, dude. Come on. You're on fire today. Now I forgot what I was going to fucking say. I'm sorry. You were saying about that line. But Kells would be a great... If you need a guy to just slide into your top six to play with the puck and snap it around, he's a guy that you could trust to do that. So happy that he got the nod. And, yeah, what a beauty. And Boldy made that save. I believe it was, was it 1-1 or 2-1? It would have made a 2-1 for Latvia. Yeah, it was tied at that point. Boldy had a great, like, legit, I mean, saved the goal. He also had a little mini breakaway that I kind of, you know, thought he would make a better move based on what we've seen this year. But he's going to be a big part of this team. And Gensel was quiet, fine by me. Fine by me. It was Latvia, no problem. The bigger the game, the better. He plays, so we know he'll be there when the games get more important. But a great first game, an awesome first game. Hellebuck, some nice saves. So very excited for you, Bid, and for us here after the first game. Oh, big time, big time. And you guys already touched on the Kachuks, and we talked about the Canadian side of it and the fact that they look at Crosby like Elvis, and he might need a little bit more privacy, where in the United States, there's still a lot of growing in the game to happen. So for them to not only stay in the village, but you see all the commercials on Peacock and like these guys are probably sitting down throughout the season, like adding even more onto their plate where fuck man, these guys are, it's so cool that these guys get to play together and they're growing the game and, and, and taking all the extra on their plate as opposed to just having to worry about leading their teams and going to fucking three Stanley cup finals in a row and Brady trying to write the ship and, and, and Ottawa and dealing with what he's dealt with. So man, it's like seeing them connect on that goal and then like seeing them fucking on all those commercials and and really helping move the needle and i mean you guys have seen the espn numbers like like what what has happened in the last five years and the growth of american hockey is is is massive obviously fucking pittsburgh buffalo and detroit being back in the mix is nice but these guys have done so much to to take a shoulder a lot of it off other guys as well so how's that for a double risk they don't look like they're afraid of it right like they want to Like most guys, especially the way hockey guys are wired, it's like, I don't want to put myself out there, but they're just so comfortable in their own skin. They know what they mean to the game and help getting it to where it, you know, even gets. And it's got to come from having a dad that played in the league and what his dad meant to especially Americans like us. Like, yeah, couldn't agree with you more. Very nice words you said about those fellas, Biz. And, yeah, they're awesome to watch out there. Also a friendly reminder, Whit, is my mother was born in Chicago. Really? There is some American in me, some African-American. Okay, yeah, you got everything covered. Do you want to call the cup? There is a difference in mentality between how the Kachuks are kind of approaching it. They're everywhere. They're all over the Olympics. And McKinnon saying, I'm not here to have a good time. I think that was the quote. It was basically like, yeah, I want to have a good time. I can't. He's like, Bo, get me a water. Okay, okay. Biz told him we just fill up the water bottle, do anything to be here. But the dog made it clear that he is there on a business trip. And the Canucks, I mean, geez, the Canucks, the Kachucks are approaching it just a little bit different. My other, before we get to the games yesterday on Wednesday, my favorite moments of the Olympics so far is, I don't know if you saw Snoop Dogg sledding. It was fucking, you got to look this clip up, Keith. He was bombing down the hill. He's everywhere. he's got an enormous usa jacket that says snoop in like size 47 font on the back it's it's classic put him sledding he was probably going 25 miles how about that where's he getting his weed over there i don't know but how about how about the fact like he beat a murder charge in like 94 and now he's just and now he's interviewing 20 to go smoke dope at the olympics and be himself what a fucking gig that he's like dancing with the figure skaters and it was like yes He had a murder charge a couple years ago, and fuck, what a life. Good for him. People can change. So we got to shout out Slovakia, guys. They had no expectations. Ranked ninth internationally. They're below Denmark, actually. I couldn't believe that. But nobody gave them a chance. I didn't, at least, against Finland. They looked phenomenal. Carried by Slavkovsky, who we saw in the Olympics in 2022. I think he was 18. He had seven goals. Definitely had a big part of him going first overall. And he came out flying. Beautiful goal. Kind of like waits out the goalie on the first one. Then his shot on the second goal barred down. Saros, like, he didn't even react by the time that thing hit the crossbar and went in. He looked great. Slovakia, I don't know, gee, if you can look at how many NHLers do they have. But they put a beat down on Finland. I don't know what was going on. And with these European countries, some of the ice time, it's so confusing. And Ronson, in a game that Finland never led for one second, played like 15 minutes. It's like, I don't get that. I don't understand what the thinking is. But Slovakia just kept coming and coming. A couple bad turnovers by Finland. I don't know if either one of you guys had a takeaway from that game besides a little bit of shock. At least that's where I was. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think it's like some of those, the teams that don't have all NHL guys where there's some European guys, maybe the coaches have had these guys for a couple of months or a couple of years where they're like, nah, these guys haven't been playing with the same guys that are playing in the NHL. We're going to like the Philip Forsberg situation. Like I think it's so fucking crazy to me. You have the best players in the world playing in the NHL. If you have guys on your team that play in the NHL, they need to be playing the most on your team. 100%. almost in that type of matchup where you take Barkov out of the lineup and then you take more guys who are more familiar with playing with one another from Slovakia, I'd say advantage to them being on the same page and if they're like, hey boys let's fucking come in there and stun these guys and that's what they did. That's such a huge win for them and man, now Finland has to play Sweden next game. If they go 0-2 are they essentially out of No, because everyone moves on. really? Yeah. So the top 14, the three division winners get a bye, and then the fourth team with the most points, and then the tiebreakers get involved. Okay. I just assumed. So if they came in like last, they could be playing USA or Canada or whoever rolls the table first game, which that's a suck first game. Yeah, second game, basically. They'd have to get through that to get to the quarterfinals. So five through 12, like five will play 12, six will play 11, and so on and so forth. Yeah. And then those winning four teams end up playing against the top four teams who got buys in the quarters. I wonder what the lowest Finland has ever finished. I feel like they're always at least in the top four. Yeah, and that was the first game, but no Barkov. It's like, I'd have Rontan out there 23 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that there's no greater loss to a team than Barkov is to Finland because then he can, it frees up everybody. So that's devastating, and we'll see where that ends up going. You said favorite moments from the Olympics. You mentioned that, the one before we started that conversation. How about the guy who won a bronze medal and then was like, yeah, I fucking cheated on my girlfriend three months into our relationship and got busted. Hey, after, did you hear about after? He was like, hey, actually, that wasn't live, right? we're not gonna i a lot of a lot of emotion coming at you in that moment you you metal maybe you have no expectation to and you tell the whole world that you fucking three months in you you got you you dipped your pen i mean i thought they were together 10 years it was a six month relationship i'm like jesus bro i think he was just trying to get his dog back i really do i I think he was trying to get his dog back. She took the dog, and he's like, I got to get that fucking beagle back. Let me tell you. I started dating her. I lost two, but I added one. A fucking hell of a trade. Do you think that that girl takes him back? She commented after Basie's being like, Basie's saying, like, not only did I not ask to get cheated on, I didn't ask to be kind of like dragged into this publicly about how this whole situation. So double whammy. Yeah. Double whammy. I think he's getting hit with a restraining order. He might lose his bronze. He's like, this will get her back. I'll show her. I'll show the world how much I fucked up. She's like, I never even met him. All of a sudden, he's catching a charge. This guy won't leave her alone, for Christ's sake. Did he get a new dog collar? No, that's your bronze medal. his coach is like dude i've been helping you out for like years planning for this like maybe chuck a compliment my way no you're bringing up the girl you cheated on three months ago yeah that was that was it was with the coach um fuck man that was crazy odd but positive more positive the the downhill skiing uh the luge The two-man luge with the guys sitting on each other. With just like a dick in your butt the whole way down the mountain. Crazy sports. Nuts to butts, baby. Crazy sports. I saw Brandon Walker and I think it was tight. Well, that's the name of the sport. It's called nuts to butts. Mostly sports barstool. They kind of like recreated one, I think, on set in their studio. It definitely looked awkward, let alone going like 70 miles an hour. there's one where there's three guys is it and that's and the other and he's and he's like toe to toe to mouth so it's like the 69 triangle one where they do the reverse 69 okay yeah down too that's we should have our own luge comps but what the reason i was getting to that was the the drone footage and how it's able to follow it so especially on the downhill skiing you get this perspective we were like oh my god like fucking one wrong turn and and i mean you saw it with lindsey vaughn and that could be another topic of conversation that was pretty sad we'll we'll get to the lindsey vaughn stuff later but i wanted to tire pump the drone the drone stuff yeah the drones is sick and i do have a um an issue with some judges uh maybe we'll get to that in ra's world but we do have to bring up sweden italy um and i didn't see any before that i didn't see any I saw Germany won 3-1 today over Denmark. Leon had a goal. Stutzel had the other two goals kind of what we were talking about. So I don't I can't even give anything on that game because it was the same time as the U.S. game. So Germany kind of expected them to win that game. That'll be a fun one. U.S. versus them. Just seeing the stars Germany has. But Sweden Italy. Shout out Italy. I mean unbelievable. The atmosphere in there was crazy. They go down 1-0. Sweden did 1-1. They make it 2-1. Italy ties it again. That's when I was like, what is going on? Then I got the goalie injured. So the goalie putting on a performance of a lifetime. And I don't think Sweden should panic by any means. They won 5-2. But it was kind of crazy where I think maybe they went into the game like, this is going to be a cakewalk. You think something like that? Now, the first goal was a horrible rebound by Gustafsson. But surprising. Damian Cora? Is it Cora or Clara? Damien Clara, I believe. He got part of the Ducks organization. Second rounder. Pretty cool. He was actually the first Italian ever drafted to the NHL to sign an NHL contract. Really? Wow. Cool, yeah. Also helped build the rink. Yes. That was cool. That's why he got hurt because he was tired. He was over the work. But there's nothing better when the host teams, especially in a sport where they're not going to be looked at to win or medal or anything. When they can put on a good show for their audiences, put up a good fight, just show the pride because Italy's been crushing it in other sports. But yeah, it reminded me of, was it Latvia a couple of years ago when Teddy Nolan was coaching Latvia and they had a goalie make like 60-something saves and just the way that a team or a country can rally behind those guys because we talked about it, I think, with prongs where it's like These guys who don't play in the NHL and never will, I mean, I know it's the Olympics, but it's their Super Bowl beyond Super Bowl. It's their time to show. It's awesome. And you've got to be happy for them. I hope they play well the whole tournament and at least keep their fans into it and give teams good fights. Fucking nice. The atmosphere in the rink seems awesome for all these games. The Czech crowd seemed crazy during the beginning of the Canada Czech game. Canada's locker rooms at the Four Seasons. They go in those seats. They luge over. They go back to intermissions, too. They do the two-man luge. Crosby and McKinney get to ride nuts-to-butts back to the hotel. This is your nuts-to-butts intermission report. How big is it? It didn't even reach the hole. Because my glutes are too big. Back to the Forsberg thing. It was crazy. I think he played a minute, one shift, and OEL, Oliver, didn't play one second of that game. He got Whitney'd? Got Whitney'd. I never sat on the bench all game. I got a shift. And, like, to see OEL and how he's played. Now, Sweden's D is good. But that decision is so bizarre. Like, I don't even know why you wouldn't. Like, say there's injuries. I mean, you see Morrissey go down. You kind of want everyone involved. There's going to be a 7th D, but he could play five, six minutes. I don't really get it. The coach, when asked about it, he brought up that in 2006 when Sweden won that the Sedins were on the third line. They were also young in 2006. Yeah, and it's a little different than Forsberg playing one minute when he's, I mean, if not the best, one of the best goal scorers on that Swedish roster. Maybe there's an injury with the Forsberg situation. Who knows? He declined to talk to the media after, so I don't know. It almost seemed like the coach was being a little bitchy about it. He didn't want to even talk about it, where it's like, hey, guy, this is one of the best players in the world, and you're not playing him. You've got to answer some questions. Well, he also got asked why Meechkov was out of shape. He did. He did. Yeah. No, but, and, buddy, fucking Oliver, Stanley Cup champion. and he's represented his country before, I feel like that's a slap in the face. That's a slap in the face. But do you think it's one of those things where they came to him before and was like, hey, you're probably not going to play a lot, but would you rather be sitting on the bench or be the guy in the locker room? And he's like, I want to be on the bench just in case something happens and then they can put him in. I hope they just relayed the message to him. But in a game like that, I mean. I know. I know. That's a good question. Like, going into that game, are both of them, like, sitting there, like, waiting for the call? And then they're like, after, like, four minutes, they're like, uh, oh, wait, I'm not playing at all? Did you have a buddy on the bench next to you? Yeah, Bobby Ryan. Okay, so it was just you and him shooting the shit the whole game? And then every TV time out, we would go out and do what we called meat laps. You know, like the laps you used to do. Oh, yeah, loser laps. Yeah, loser laps to keep your legs loose. And we'd be yelling, meat lap, meat lap. And the guys would be laughing. I'm like, job well done, Bobby. Good job. And, Biz, you brought this up. Speaking of TV timeouts, incredible to see the difference with less TV timeouts. Don't even get me fucking started. Holy shit. Don't even get me started. The flow of the game, so much better. So much better. All these people, the owners will never go for it. Like, Gary Bettman and whoever's making the overall decisions need to watch that product. It gets more people involved. The flow of the game gets everybody into it. there's no need for three TV timeouts with the way that they're changing out the ads on the boards and on the ice in like when is the last time you sat on your couch watch the commercial didn't grab your phone and or but bought something off of a commercial like commercials should be done I do who buys things from commercials and speaking of the board ads they're not there either kind of nice it's like oh I kind of forgot what this looked like but bitch you going back to last year I think you brought this up, make the intermission longer, one TV timeout during the game. Better for the concessions. You're not rushing up and trying to rush through lines. I think the ice will get nasty though. You don't realize how nasty it gets after... If it was only one straight period, it would be brutal. Here's my rebuttal to that. I don't think they let the ice dry enough. That's part of the problem. If you have longer, if you have two Zambonis, get out there right away. Listen, I love the game stuff, but I don't need to see the fucking sumo wrestlers out there. I don't. I don't need to see the game we played when we were in Pittsburgh. Well, you've been ranting and raving about the Blackhawks bringing back the smoke shows for the center ice. That is one stipulation. That's one. That should be fair. Stay in the hallway? Yeah. So, yeah, it is pretty cool though. The lack of there's one break after the 10 minute mark. You don't grab your phone like Jan says. You're engaged the whole time. It's going. The commentators can get in flow. The fact that in NHL games, I would say through the 82, there's probably about 15 to 20 of the games that you play in a year where you'll have a TV timeout and then two and a half, three minutes of gameplay later, you have another TV timeout. It's the dumbest thing in the world. Everybody's just bored, takes the flow, fuck off I agree with you guys as well so do you think they should implement that in the NHL right now? 100% unfortunately I don't see it happening but I love your idea I think it's like the idea of playing less games if anything they might add a fourth fucking TV timeout everybody keeps going money money money when that's the answer you're doing more in between periods to make up for it and even if you don't get there the Pittsburgh Penguins were bought for fucking six or seven hundred million dollars less five or six years ago fuck off with fucking telling me the money shit like literally shoving up your fucking ass it was like 900 million to 1.8 billion it was it doubled and and and then they and then they did the the switcherouski to utah so the owners could all get that right yeah yeah and then now they're going to go two more expansion at 1.7 billion minimum to more of the owners. So I don't want to hear about this fucking TV timeout money, money, money. Come on. Come on. And you get to control another best on best. And we were talking about Slovak and Chechia. All the politics aside, imagine those two nations were still together and you had Russia. You'd have six powerhouses. Right? We should play them together. I thought the Czechs played the Canadians very hard, where if all of a sudden you mix in the slowbacks, that's how it used to be, right? That's six fucking powerhouses, man. So with that, I think we could throw it over to a good friend of ours, a guy who's crushing it on the intermission and broadcast with NBC, TJ Oshie, Olympic hero back in the day against Russia in Sochi in 2014. He came on. This was a great chat. Did it, I want to say, about 10 days ago. 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I still feel the same, but I'm actually dumb, so there's a difference. I know, but I feel like you're so good at it. I don't think you're dumb. I think you're smart, and I do. Fooled it again. I don't know. Fooled it again. That should be nice. Yeah. I was going to ask you, oh, since it's the Olympics, and I'm sure there's a lot of players that are listening that are going, what are some must needs to pack for an Olympics? Like give me your handful, maybe top five things that you need to pack before you go over there. Oh, I mean, for me it was like a pack of cards and a bunch of cash. That's it. They kind of give you everything you need, right? And you're just wearing like the team sweats and whatever. If I could have redone it, I would have brought a lot of snacks because we just had all the Russian food. They made Americanized stuff, but it's still not what we're used to. I would have brought frozen hamburgers, some pizzas. I ate McDonald's, I think, every day of the Olympics. That's why you scored on the shootout like that. But Italy food is going to be a little different than... True. That would probably be a little... Yeah. It's probably going to be pretty good. They're going to have some good pastas. So I was in Vancouver and still eating McDonald's. That's probably a tough look for me. That's why Torx had you parked right in the middle of the bench. Yeah, sit down. What's cool is that, so how many games have you done in between the benches or color now? Is it like three or four? It's three games between the benches, and then I've done three in the booth, two with Monumental, so with the caps, but it was three of us in the booth. So that's, I did that two nights ago here in D.C. And I definitely prefer between the benches. It's unbelievable how much easier it is to see, like, the little things going on. And, like, we're used to watching it from there, right? So, like, that's, when you see plays develop, like, that's where you are. When you're up top, you're like, God, these guys suck. Like, look how much space is out there. I know. It's crazy, man. It's easy to pick apart the game from up there. When you're down at the bottom, you're like, oh, gosh. I'm convinced that's why GMs Who often time played End up being like This guy sucks It's like dude I don't know And all of us are guilty I think to a certain extent As you get out of the game and you watch up top You're like what's wrong with this guy But you get down there And Biz said it because he did the Buffalo game Down close you're just blown away by the speed I was amazed And even though you're only a little bit removed Are you still overwhelmed At the speed like you feel like every year just kicks up another notch i think it's like the the uh i don't know if it's necessarily it's like the acceleration that these kids have when they like get the puck so i don't know if like top speed really makes a difference but like it's like when they get the puck and like there's a transition like everyone is just gone and i don't know like there's a little bit less hitting so i don't i don't really love that but um yeah like down there like right when it started my first game and you and you know biz like being down there like if you have to like speak to like what's going on and things are happening and you're waiting for your time to get in but then like three things have happened since that one thing you want to say you're like oh i guess i guess i can't talk about that anymore yeah put that on back i'm saying that too i mean there's so many i've i'd say a majority of the things that i want to say never get on air because, like, so much stuff happens that you just can't do it. But it's, man, these kids are, like, they move nowhere near what I remember it being like. I noticed, I think you're right. Besides a few guys, like, top speed has always been pretty incredible. But guys get it standing still now or barely moving. And just back in our day, at least for, you know, me and me, Biz, like, you'd get caught. Now, boom, it's those first three strides with the puck that you're like, how did he create separation there? Like, he didn't even have any momentum when he got the biscuit, and he's still, like, creating a chance, so that's a good call. I think the, it seems to me like the way that they're, like, able to get on, like, edges in, like, weird positions, like, for me, it was, like, if I tried to do that, I would just come to a stop. If they, like, keep moving, you know? I don't know. Like, my hips, I mean, I would have three hip surgeries if I skated, like, these guys. Now, are you doing any TV work for Olympics you going over there what's your plan as an American hero I don't go that far but I uh I am working for NBC I'll be uh in Stanford Connecticut 15 days um I think it's like 15 14 days um so I got I probably got to get going on my homework for like some of the last names for some of the guys that aren't in the NHL but you know I'm a rookie so I'm coming in I think I got like 4, 6, 10 a.m. puck drops. And we'll be calling the game. So, yeah. It's going to be difficult, but it's going to be super cool just to be involved with it. And NBC was actually so good to me after the Olympics. Get me to the American Century Championship and things like that. And I'm just holding on for dear life, trying to stay in it. But, yeah. So it'll be cool to be back and see that. and I had hoped when I originally like applied for it that I get to bring the kids out there and my wife was uh Lauren was eight months pregnant with our first one high-risk pregnancy she was born with gastroschisis so like to go out there and and be born there was like a little risky um because we had all of our doctors um because that's when like they're born with their intestines outside their body and but she's doing good she's like the fastest kid alive now she's she's great but yeah so like my family Lauren didn't get to go my kids obviously weren't born yet and so that was like I was like this is my chance like get them out there show them dad's like what's cool at one point but we'll be doing it from Stanford and it's still great I'm super super honored and blessed to be able to do it I really really was hoping you were going to then describe to biz what a doctor was so that I mean that's what I thought was coming I was like this is going to be the best sorry biz I'm not like that. I don't do that. I don't do that. No, I'm used to being these guys doormat. I mentioned how addicted I am to fly fishing. Yeah, it's keeping me honest, though. The other day I said that I'd been fly fishing one time, and then they proceeded to roast me for about five minutes. Would you consider being addicted to something if you've done it one time? I think it depends on what it is. I've never thought about it after. Thanks, Josh. I appreciate you. I needed you on this pod today. I have a hard – I'm not one of those chirping guys. when I so if you don't I feel like if you don't come in starting chirping guys if you wait like 10 years or something you say something people like god I was rude like yeah you know what I mean and so I was always I was extremely shy when I was younger and so now like even if I try to do something they're like god oh this is an asshole and then you feel terrible for like a week because you yeah oh yeah and it's like it eats away at you forever I still think about something I said to one of my high school teammates like back in war like I still think about it and you took it the wrong way and I'm like, God, I'm just like the worst human being. But I don't want to talk about it. I'm embarrassed. I'm still embarrassed. I should lay down on the bed. Yeah. Actually, speaking of laying down on the bed, so we had Barrett Jackman on and you talk about how, you know, you weren't a chirper. You were just a good guy, good teammate. You actually warming up his bed is one of the nicest things that I've ever heard. I, so I was, when I came into the league, we had like, you know, we had Kinger, Cam Jansen, Jax. And Jax has those eyebrows and that stare. He's just a scary look at. And I was scared of everyone. So I was like a super rookie in a good sense. I will do anything to you guys. You're checking yourself. Yeah. Who did that? So yeah, but Jax, he's like my, ended up being my big brother. Kept me out of a lot of trouble in the younger years and uh yeah he was he made it like a joke like yeah i go warm up my bed or whatever and i went up and did it and uh and he like wiped it i'm more of like a cold bed kind of guy but too and so every pregame skate i was like all right jacks is yeah he's on his ice cream i'm going would you would he make you do the toilet too yans has been like sitting on a cold toilet no i would do that that like i'm in for that yeah that's a good call warm toilet is if you don't know who was before you go like an airport you're like i don't know oh yeah i don't know i'm more like a day warmer though but you know how oh yeah it's with the bidet i can't if i go on the road and have a cold butt cheeks i'm done can't do it doesn't come out doesn't come out get shy shy booty the funniest part about hearing it was you're you're doing like the snow angels in there fast and you're gonna cover all of it i get friction you don't know where he's gonna get in And then by the time you came in, I'd get out and I'd get that nice full triangle fold, you know, so you can just slide right in there. Hey, there's a bacon strip in the middle of the bed. That's a white good. I made sure I was close, but that would have been. Yeah, that's something one of the other guys would have done. Did you just check into your hotel or do you make your bed like an absolute legend? No, I knew I was coming on spitting checklist. So I was like, you know, I better get this thing dialed. Oh, this does the episodes in the bed with it messy with, like, you know, those towels. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I was walking around the room. Oh, I'm a, I walk in and it's a absolute, I throw everything everywhere. Like, look at this desk. Like, I just kind of tossed everything in, like, one little corner. Look at all those vitamins, dude. Yeah, is that on supplements? Yeah, just, like, you know, I did, like, the, you know, like, the blood test stuff. I'm not a big, like, pill guy, so, like, these are... what are they called row robot it's just like little liquid so i just like quick shot quick shot quick shot go through you know try to stay up on the health i can't really work out so i'm just trying to you know yeah you look good i was a great workout i know the back and stuff but you look great yeah thanks i yeah just eating and stuff okay do you do like anything other than just like regular supplements like do you do any uh like are the peptides with quickly mentioned it i don't do no honestly like i'm this is like the most busy i've ever been in my entire i don't have time for like i mean i only have time to work out like i can maybe do push-ups before bed or something but um no i'm and i'm not if anyone anyone that knows me i'm like a very like go with the flow no plan kind of guy and i'm just i'm like just i'm drowning boys like with all the you know just like the different uh i'm working for the caps too and like business upside too with like sponsorships and things like that and all the and Waro going on and so I just I just trying to keep up So but no working out Uh and I I don do any of the cool the cool health things. I just try to eat somewhat healthy and, uh, that's it. Do you have an assistant that's like helping you out and planning your weeks and stuff like that? No. Yeah. Yeah. The boss lady, she's, you know, she helps, she helps like try to keep me on track. Um, I got a, I got a great agency and I had to switch from my hockey agent with the Montag group, but no, and they try to help me stay on schedule too, but just, you know, it's like the prep, like in the getting things ready and then the meetings and all that stuff. So I'm just, I'm like a, I'm like strictly an athlete. And so I'm trying to be a professional and it's, I'm not great at it. It's, it's, yeah, it's a little bit of an adjustment, but do you enjoy the fact that you're, you're dabbling in a little bit of everything? and do you think that maybe you'll eventually narrow it down and choose a lane and do you think that will be media or would you rather be on the management side i i don't know i i do like that i'm trying everything and that was kind of my thing like well i'm still relevant like let's just like let's get on tv let's do this other stuff actually my uh it was my wife lauren that she just like loved my interviews which interviews are so much easier than like having to have an opinion and say something but um and so we kind of i was like oh give it a try and uh I'm liking it. I like trying to make players look good. And so, like, I won't get super negative. I'll just, I really want to show that, like, these NHL players are just as good at hockey as, like, NFL players are at football. You know what I mean? But they get a lot of positive, you know, they never show the mistakes. They always show the great throw and, like, the catch with, like, dragging your feet. So that's kind of, like, my goal for there. But I do like that I'm trying everything. I think my dream job would be to be like an assistant coach and like power play forwards, skill stuff. But I got four young kids and those guys, they have no time, right? And the video is what is like insane to me. I mean, it's hours and hours a day along with the travel. So it's like you're a player with the travel and how much you're gone, but it's actually even more because you're at the rink way longer. yeah you're there you know an hour before the players you leave like a couple hours after i don't know what they're there's gotta be there's no way that there's you can watch that much video no there's no way it has to be simpler than that yeah i would think but i would love to help players with like the like almost like the mental side of the game and like what to think when where to look when i think it would make like a lot of these skilled players it doesn't seem like there's like a ton of like the really smart hockey players anymore. I don't know if you guys noticed that or not. Everyone seems incredibly skilled and incredibly fast and can score and create offense but like it's someone like the even like guys like getting like ran over by Tom the other night like just don't in that moment like don't do that. Or know who's on the ice. But like if you're going to make a play or whatever it is and you're going to whip around like your head can't be the first thing that turns in that moment like if your body and you're like this right so if you're you might get hammered still but at least they hit you and like go like over you they don't like you know are you talking about the stankhoven hit against carolina yeah i feel like the nhl and player safety has done a way better job over the last like three four years putting more of the onus back on the guy who's getting hit rather than just throwing sussies at guys they've cleaned that up yeah any of those hit i mean i got rocked plenty of times and i was like even the ref would come on like hey dude that was like that was my bad i i can't do that i can't put myself in position one i'm gonna get hurt you were really good at like baiting guys to think that they had a chance to hit you and you'd see them before and then just reverse show them but guys don't do that even like stankhoven could have looked saw him faked and then brought the i mean you're not going to knock over tom wilson but well you're the right leverage though because he's big right and so you let him come to you and if you're low you explode up and then his momentum you just have to lift him off his skates a little and then they it looks like a massive hit but really you just lifted his skates up and then they they like flip right so that's i always love hitting the big guys because it wasn't you don't try to run through them you try to get their feet off the ice and then they just flip over do you think there should be more hockey schools like with with situational stuff like how do you think that we improve that like how i think they've done a great job in the way that they're now allowing um junior players to go to college like i think that that's a great transition before you end up getting a pro to where basically i feel like college has become like a mini ahl yeah like what do you think they can do to continue to maybe because now the skill set has has taken that next step and the skating and all that how do you match the intelligence you know i think i think it's like it's like older like from all my a lot of my stuff was like my the older guys like talking like teaching me or like the coach would pull me aside and do like a quick little one-on-one video session not like hours but like for like a wall play for example like if the puck's rimming around the wall like and you have a d-man pinching down on you like before that rim happened you should already like be seeing where's my centerman is their f3 above or below him who is it is it someone like mcmichael who loves to get out of the zone well then i gotta tip the puck more diagonally to like the the neutral zone face off by the blue line if it's someone like stromer who likes staying low then i know i gotta come below and like all that information like if you just show them like where to look the more information you have the easier it'll be to like make plays you know what i mean but i feel like these kids they they're they're so skilled so fast they just their their heads they don't know everything that's going on and so i think it's like little things like that that like all that information you teach them how to like absorb that and what to look for and then their skill i mean they're gonna make way better plays than i made you know what i mean because they have the ability to do it and like open their hips up and do this all the all this other stuff but it's like little things like that like the like the rim wall play i mean i i thought like at least 75 of the time I should either get out of the zone and get to my centerman. If I did my job, which means I know where everyone's coming and what they're doing, if the D-man's on the wall, if the skates are open, if it sticks to the middle or not, like little things like that. So just like helping them gather all that information without overloading it, but you can go one piece at a time. Whit, I think you were the one who pointed it out. It was the Will Smith one in the offensive zone last week where he did the shoulder check and then found Celebrini. So some of these guys are good at where they turn their head and they can, it's like they have a, they take a photograph. And even if they're not looking, they can make the play blind because they know exactly where that guy's going to end up. So that's a great point. Will Smith actually, he's almost uncommon that he's very, super skilled, but he's not a burner and he's not enormous, but he's like the hockey IQ guy. Yes, the skill is out of control and stuff, But it's more likely you're going to find a guy who, you know, is 210, 215, flies, and maybe doesn't have the same type vision and stuff. Like, more of those guys are going to be making it. Now the toothpaste is out of the tube where I don't really know if it ever goes back to super smart hockey players all over the ice on all these different teams when you're like, hey, I can get a guy who is faster than anyone else, he's physically strong, and he's going to be north-south. That's kind of where the league has gone. and you miss certain plays, plays like Will Smith, or just passes to open ice where a guy's skating into it as opposed to just cycling it down low, which is great. And then you get Celebrini, who does it all, and then that's the true superstar. Celebrini is my, honestly, I think he's my favorite player. I've covered him like three games this year, and so each game I watch back a couple games or watch all the shifts, and I'm like, man, this kid is... I would have loved to play with this kid. He looks like he's always trying to do the right thing, but then his skill level, he's unbelievable. Or even saying it looks like he's always trying. Yeah. You were saying at BU, you marveled at how every single drill and every single practice, he was going 110%, where sometimes these kids who are the highly skilled ones think it's a, I'm too cool to go full bore all the time. And Ose, you were like that. like no joke I remember like every practice it was like fuck you do you're going to drill against Oshie like he's bringing it like it's playoffs that was what Celebrini he was 17 at BU and you know even a three on oh at the beginning of practice he's like he's bearing down he's bearing rebounds he's sprinting out of the zone after when some guys are just like you see it you could tell right away like fuck it this this kid's a little little bit different yeah he's got to compete right he's yep he just wants to win wants to be the best whether it's you know a simple drill or in game or he they were in minnesota i think it was the first game i covered and so i went to pregame skate and he was like the first one on the ice like 10 minutes before everyone else you know that's like that's the good shit i was gonna ask i mean you talked about how it's sometimes hard given your opinion where you rather talk and about that type of stuff what do you make of Team USA heading in? I'm sure you've been asked the question, are you maybe a little disappointed that one or two guys were left off the roster? What's your overall view of what you feel for Team USA heading into these games? I think they're probably I'd say as close as they've ever been on paper to hang with Canada. I look at this tournament as a like these short tournaments, single elimination I really look at like Stanley Cup wins, like playoff mentality, like elimination game type, who shows up in those moments. And when you look at Canada, I don't know the exact number, but they have like 24 Stanley Cups between them. A couple guys have multiple, right? I think USA has like six. Wow. And so if you think about it that way, like every game, once you get to the playoff round, is like a game seven. and so who's going to show up in those big moments? Obviously, Chucky for the Americans. He's not going to shy away from any of that stuff. A lot of players on Canada are going to be super comfortable in those situations and be able to elevate themselves to a different level without letting the moment get to him. I don't know if that has anything to do with Robertson or not. I think with how good he's been this year, and I covered him last week, Just like he is working. He looks like he really is working for the defensive side too. So that could be a miss. And I know everyone's talking about it and the goals and stuff. But I think Team USA is going to be right there. I hope the hype hasn't gotten so big that they don't think they have to work for it. Because on paper, they're not on Canada's level yet. But they are right there. And so it's going to come down to those big moments, I think. You can't grind a team down for seven games. It's different if on an NHL sheet, I think Team USA has, in a seven-game series, I think they might have a better chance, you know, using physicality and stuff like that. But, yeah, I think Canada's still the top dog, but U.S. is right there. I think even last night, who scored in the shootout in the outdoor game? Cancel. Cancel, maybe? you i think like everyone keeps asking me about like the shootout stuff and i think gensel i don't know what it is about i think he's just so solid that was a seed too yeah so like if it comes down to a moment like him boldy i think is having a great year he's really good on the shootout so those are my two kind of shootout picks i mean even for you like that realistically probably changed your life in some capacity right like is there a message you would give to these guys about going into the Olympics and like what it would mean for the rest of your life. Like we, we spoke with David Andrews and he talked about just like winning, being a part of a winning team and what it can mean for your future and all that stuff. Like what would you give to those guys going in? I would say, uh, like at the, at that time it felt like, all right, I finally made it. I don't think I'm really quite as good as I can be. So like, I'm going to like enjoy the moment. I'm going to go as hard as I can, but like 2018 will come around the corner. I'll have another, you know what I mean? And it never came. Yeah. And so like, if I was these kids, I would say like the, from the moment you guys get on the plane together, wherever you meet, like bond as fast as you can, like add beers together, swap stories, like build that kind of chemistry, which I think will come over from the four nations a little bit. but, um, and just like absolutely leave it all out there. Cause like, you never know what's going to happen. Like it, or what could change your life. Right. I was a fourth liner and we had four guys on the fourth line dress. And so like, it's me, patch ready, Paul Stasny, and Blake Wheeler all like taking turns playing. Right. So I didn't actually play that much. Um, but then the shootout happened and like he's mentioned and changed my life. I mean, that's something that sticks with me. All the opportunities I've gotten, for the most part, are from that and the Stanley Cup. So I would say just enjoy it. Like, you know, us old guys, we always talk like you never know when it's going to be your last, you know, all that stuff. But I really didn't think that was the last time I was going to play in the Olympics, and it was. What kind of card games do you play to build camaraderie? I mean, I'm a big seven-up, seven-down guy. but I mean in Washington we played past the ace on the bus win or lose and at times it was like you know you have some tough losses go through some tough stretches and you have to do the whole team like everybody would get a card or just the guys at the table oh no the whole team that's also a long run go all the way up by the coaches that is awesome you know maybe you have a tough stretch and someone gets like two aces and everyone's like oh yeah you like cheering and the coaches are like oh no because we're still having fun even though we had like the worst game of the year so uh that that's like the stuff like the little things you know like that that bring you together no better feeling than then uh you see an ace just flying around and then you know you got the king just to shove it in somebody's face yeah just like you're just so happy to just oh yeah you throw it right on your hat you know so they come around you're like you know because it comes around so you don't know who's behind you and you like or what they have behind you you look around you see a big king there and you just all right out again yeah i will say i'm probably one of the worst past the ace players of all time i'm on like three games in like 15 years but what does every guy throw in per game are usually like 20 bucks a guy usually 20 bucks and then uh two side all-tie automatic re-up. Oh, that's the best. That's the best feeling when you're out of it. You got the ace and then it's the two-tie all-tie. Oh, yeah. If you get the two-tie all-tie, I think we had one game that went two-two-tie all-tie. So it was game three and we had to move it to the next game. Oh, carry over. We were already sitting there. Everyone's already in the hotel. The young guys, hopefully you're still waiting, even though we're not in there, to go up on the bus. You flip like jack-jack. and your boys are like roaring. You come into the lobby like, boys, two-tied, all-tied again. They're like, yes. Yes, yes. Oh, Team USA question for you. Kind of a no-lose situation, but if they do go four forwards on the power play, are you having Hughes run the first unit or Wierenski? I'm having Hughes run it. Okay. Because I think Wierenski is going to play bigger minutes five on five. And not that Hughes can. I mean, I can play like 30 minutes a night. But I think you want Wierenski on the ice more five on five. And so you kind of almost, they're all superstars, right? So you kind of like, all right, this is your time. This will be a lot of your ice time right here. And I mean, he doesn't seem like he loves to come with the ice either on the power play. So I think you throw him out there for that. His ability, I know Wierenski is really good too, but his ability to keep pucks alive and hold the puck for a long time we'll let some of these other guys like just you know get into that position to score um and so I think I think five on five especially against teams like Canada that like are going to be able to get to the net you want Wierenski in those big moments five on five to be boxing out and to be playing those guys a little bit more like even as a power play guy myself like I really hope they just let them play and it's a ton of five on five one or two power plays a game if it's like in world juniors and stuff like that when there's so many penalties like you can lose the flow of the game and guys aren't getting into it so i really hope they let them play but you never know with those officials right i don't i think there's gonna be i think there's gonna be a lot of penalties i know it's it i feel like every international tournament it's just like i don't know is it all nhl refs they're actually doing a good job of having a few most of them yeah so like those games i think will be tighter when you get the European refs that aren't used to maybe some of the physicality, especially on the NHL sheet, things are going to happen a little faster. They're actually sending the refs who did the NHL Stadium Series game the ones who just did the Tampa game, Tampa and Boston. You didn't like their performance last night? If Wilson hit Stanko or a player like he hit Stanko with European refs, they're probably like looking for handcuffs in the front. 100%. There's too much sound. Like, you're in the box or you're gone. Like, we talked about how fast and how skilled the game is. Like, how would you describe when you went to the Olympics, like, how much of another jump that is? Like, what should these guys who have never played in the Olympics be prepared for? Like, I mean, a guy like, you know, Tom Wilson, he deserves to be there, got the nod. Like, what is it like all of a sudden stepping in on the best on best? I think the way I kind of looked at it is, so back then, I'm not sure when exactly Detroit went to the Eastern Conference, but I played against Datsuk a lot back then, like that line. And I kind of compared it to like, you're almost like in a shutdown, like you're always playing against the first line. It's just like a constant, there's like very little room for error. you kind of have to be safe a little bit offensively, but you also got to try to create offense. So it's like your biggest playoff game, and the coach comes up, he's like, hey, you're going to get the first line tonight. Except for no matter what line's on the ice, that's who you're going to get. So it's tough. It's a completely different level. We were also on an Olympic sheet, and so I think that changes things a little bit, even like visually where the blue lines were and the net was further away and it kind of messed me up shooting pucks. You get over the blue line and you're like, oh my gosh. There's like a scoring chance. Barely getting there. But that's kind of the biggest. Everything is just so much harder. There's no space. Everyone's real good. You don't have that one seventh defenseman that's in the game that you can somehow dangle and feel good about yourself like everyone's just so good and i know i mean obviously a lot of talk about canada usa but like what do these other team bring because i mean they're no slouches either right they're going in they want to win like there's no easy games anymore is there no i don't think so and like i i even look at finland like i think they're going to be really good i don't know how how the injuries are going to shake out for sweden but like i have sweden and you know depending on how it lines up Like, if they were all healthy, like, they're probably have a good chance of winning the gold medal, you know what I mean? Or at least getting there to the gold medal game. So, yeah, you go up and down the line, like, even Germany. That's what I was going to say about Germany. Like, I saw a thing, U.S. schedule. I think it's Germany, Denmark. The last game is relatively, Latvia. Like, all right, so Leon and Stutzl and Seider start playing awesome. It's like, ah. Yeah. This game isn't like a shoe-in. Well, Andy, it's probably going to come down to, some of us are going to come down to goaltenders, right? Yeah. Yeah. If you get a hot goaltender, I mean, you only get one game. Yep. He plays out of his mind. He could be going home early. And you've watched Logan Thompson a lot, and, you know, you know Binner. Like, we talked to Fleury. It was interesting because we kind of put it on him a little bit, and he's like, I think it's Binnington's net based on his past. And I know you're a Caps guy, but are you kind of seeing a similar vibe there with Canada? Yeah. So the one thing about like Benner is he just seems like a gamer. You know what I mean? In those big moments. And so you can't really like throw like numbers or analytics at someone that just in the big moments, like they're going to show up. And so, I mean, I think it's probably his net to lose. I think they're probably not they're probably not shy though to like if he's not doing well I think they're gonna be super comfortable with LT in there because he's a little bit of a gamer too he's not like to me I guess I don't know but he doesn't seem like a crazy crazy technical but like reads the game really well and can kind of like follow the puck and follow where the puck's gonna go and he kind of just ends up just getting his body in a way so I'd love it for LT to get a shot but I think it's Benner's net. I'm a little rattled that we're not going to see Ovi and the Russians in there. I feel like that's such a big miss. That's a... They'd be stacked. Yeah. The goaltending alone is a joke. Yeah, I don't know. And for Ovi too, this stage in his career to go play in one more Olympics, knowing his kids, to have the boys there, you know, Yeah, that's a tough one. And then just seeing Kucherov, what he's been doing. Kucherov, I think, I don't know if this is exact, and I know we're interviewing February 2nd, you right now. It'll be out maybe in a week, but Kucherov has like 30 points in his last 12 games. I want to say 34 or 36 points in 14 games since the start of the year. He's reaching a different level again, and he's nipping at the heels for the Art Ross now. I don't think there's anyone in the game that makes it look easier than him. Like, McDavid, like, he is McDavid, but it looks like he's trying really hard to, like, you know, his feet are flying, like, his stick's moving everywhere. Same with McKinnon. Like, he's like, I don't know, but Kucherov, he almost looks, like, disrespectful to the other team. You know what I mean? He's almost like an and-one player that's, like, so smooth, and, like, somehow the guy still breaks his ankle and falls down. I don't know. That's the only way I can subscribe it. Yeah, the professor. This is Roback, last question. Use code CHICKLITS on roback.com for 20% off your order for the end of this week. C-H-I-C-L-E-T-S on R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. 20% off all pants, joggers, more with code CHICKLITS. We've been told that you're doing stuff with Michelob and it involves commercial. Is this like, are we going to get to see you on the greatest commercial day of the year? I so when I got this call from Michelob Ultra that I was going to be in a have a cameo in the Super Bowl commercial I was like wait a second holy shit I made it right like does this surpass the shootout at the Olympics I mean both one percenters I mean it's it's probably more rare I don't know like I like I don't know that was pretty fucked up in Russia I'd say more people are in commercials than in shootouts in the Olympics. Yeah, I guess Super Bowl. But the what was awesome was when they brought it to me, I read like the script and I was like, this is straight out of my life. It's probably out of your guys' lives, too. So I'll just walk you like briefly walk you through it. It's out on social media. But so there's there's Lewis Pullman who he was in like the Maverick. You'll like remember from there um he's with his buddies at the top of the hill right and uh they're like all right racing to the bottom for for an ultra and they go and this guy he always loses so he's like the butt of all the like he's always paying for the ultras and kurt russell is at the end of yeah yeah her brooks kurt russell's at the end at the end of the the bar and he like pulls him over and the guy's the name is greg he's like get over here greg and he like runs him through like this like all this testing he's like he was even sharpening his skis and and kurt russell's like again again dressed as erb brooks in the commercial but he's like no he's like uh like this instructor like this mythical guy um and so sure enough just like me and my buddies would you know you do everything whoever loses pays for the beers and he gets to the top and goes again goes off the jump uh to like win the race and me and i'm standing next to chloe kim and kurt russell and we're just like in a maze just like And, like, that's the only part I'm in. But, still, like, really cool, really cool, like, to just, like, be in the Super Bowl commercial. I think it's in, like, the last TV time out of the first quarter, so people won't be too crazy yet. I think they'll still remember what's going on. And then Michelob Ultra is the beer sponsor of Team USA. So, it kind of ties in the whole Olympics. We got Super Bowl Olympics. I mean, this lineup coming up of events is unbelievable. So, super thankful to Michelob Ultra and, like, meeting Kurt Russell. he's like the nicest human being I've ever met and to me I never met Herb Brooks so to me he's like it's kind of like Herb Brooks I had dinner with Herb Brooks one time when I was in Pittsburgh when I was drafted there it was amazing him and Craig Patrick they were the guys that drafted us that year but to go back to the commercial the Michelob Ultra, the non-alcs they're pretty good like they're they got great stuff i mean i i've been my dad's favorite beer was michelow golden light and he would show up to my house like in st louis unannounced i didn't know he was in town and he'd just walk in and he'd have a grocery bag full of michelow golden light like i'm like what are you doing where'd you get those they only held those in st louis right i feel like i've never seen them any two i think right minnie is a big they're good But the Michelob Ultras and beer is phenomenal. They're great. The whole team, the whole experience was, I mean, it was like a real movie set, right? Where was it filmed? We were in Salt Lake City. Okay, so that Chloe Kim, she's the snowboarder and she dates Miles Garrett, right? Yeah. She's pretty cool? Has she won gold? She was great. I think she's going for her third half-pipe gold medal in a row. Wow. And so, like, she's, like, I was standing next to her, and, you know, like, people are like, oh, great shootout, great shootout. And they're like, oh, congratulations on all your gold medals. I'm like, oh, I didn't even win. Just a lot of didn't even win, yeah. I didn't even have no medals. How long was the day when you were shooting? Because those days can be long. Yeah. Well, I didn't have too much in it, so I was, you know, they were a little longer, but it ended up being like six hours or so um with all the social content and things like that i had like my own team right i didn't know that i was like i just show up and just you know whatever you need wherever you need me there was like there was like a guy to hold my jacket there was like a makeup person it's almost uncomfortable like how many people are doing things for you you're like i'm good they were because we were in the mountains right in there snow and so it's like a little cold unless we had like a jacket on like in between takes and this guy I just kept taking my jacket. And finally I was like, you know what, dude, you're just, you can just set the jacket down. I'm going to go no jacket. I feel weird with someone like helping me this much, but they were, they were phenomenal. And the whole Michelob team was unbelievable. And, and yeah, it was, it's going to be really cool. So like being a super welcome. I mean, that wasn't on the, that wasn't on the dream list, right? That's not, you just didn't think it's possible. No, that came extra. Yeah. By next year's commercial, you'll be like, who the fuck put the blue M&Ms? I told you I don't like you. Never. I can never. Yeah, this Sochi guy. Yeah. And they call you the talent. I'm like, you guys are going way too far. Yeah. Yeah. When you were there last time in Sochi, did you go get to see other sports? Like, did you find yourself, like, intrigued by any sports maybe you hadn't checked out before? Yeah, so we, our schedules were super compressed. And so there's not, like, a ton of time. but I did go up to the mountain one time and watch Sean White and the Half-Bite. On the way back, we stayed a little too late. I don't remember. It was an hour bus ride maybe. We stayed so late that we missed the last bus going back. We're in Russia. There's checkpoints every couple miles with guys with machine guns. I don't know how. There's no Uber. We don't know how to get back. We just sat there asking like, could someone help us get back to the Olympic Village? And somehow, I don't remember, someone just gave us a ride, and we ended up making our way back. But that was like literally the only time. And Sean White, man, you watch everyone go, and then he would go twice as high as everyone else. And you're like, oh, that must be him. Isn't it crazy how downhill, like on TV, it looks like it's like this, the half pipe, but it's like that. It's straight downhill. I don't know. Like a 45 degree angle? I'm not good with angles, but... Well, 45 would be like... Yeah. Maybe more. I don't know. It's like... They're way up there. It's like a black diamond straight down. It's like straight down. We had Mark McMorris on who does that as well. I want to say he just won something, and he's qualified to go to the Olympics. So those guys are... Oh, is he going this year? I believe so. Those guys got a screw loose. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You've got to be a psychopath to be doing that shit. Where are you right now? I'm in D.C., so I'm working for the Caps this weekend. So I did the game a couple nights ago. I got the game tonight versus the Islanders. What are the little birdies saying about Panarin possibly going there? And what are you kind of seeing? Like, it's weird. Everyone's kind of waiting for the Caps to get going. It's been a little bit of a sludge. Yeah, I think that they're just so banged up with injuries. and they're not a team that, they're not going to have a guy getting 100 points, right? And so their strength is their depth and when you lose that depth because guys are hurt, you're kind of in a tough spot. I've heard about the talks about Panarin. I think the, I would assume anyways, I don't know, but the problem is anyone that's going to trade, they're probably going to want some of these prospects that they've built. They're going to want you know, Protus, Protus, or I heard McMichael's name come up. I wouldn't give up. I wouldn't give him up. Even Mikey. Right. So like he's like these players are finally, they finally got their shot and they're finally to where they're like NHL. Like they can make a difference out there. And so I don't know. It's hard. Like for me, I'm like a loyal person. I just be like, no, whatever. I'm like, I'm keeping my boys, but that's probably why I'll never be a GM. Cause I, I got too much. I get connected like way too much. Your olds on your team. It's like, Tom Wilson's 54 years old. Osh, you've got to let him go. No, I can't, man. I can't do it. I'm going down with the ship. Can't we get him a better cane out there? I heard RA's got a nice one. Let's give him that version. But this has been unreal, dude. We're so happy to get you on. Fuck, man. It's going to be great hearing you at the Olympics. Congrats on all your endeavors post-career, man. You're buzzing right now. Yeah, thanks, brother. I appreciate you guys. Like I mentioned all the time, you guys are so good. You guys have brought so many fans to hockey that don't see the character of what the guys are. And so I love it. Buddy, with the fact that they're bracing these goalie fights now, you have the NHL post in it. Hockey's on a heater. I could see hockey doubling, tripling the size in the next 5, 10 years, man. It's doing so well. And the game's at a different level. And hey, once they start getting a little smarter out there, we're really going to take over. Did you see Cooch call Vasilevsky White Tyson? Unbelievable. It's so good. It's so good. Oh, man. I think hockey guys are just the best people in the world, the funniest, most down to earth. And so, yeah. But like I said, you guys have a lot of that showing the character. My last thing, Ocean, thank you for that, is kind of some questionable times at North Dakota last year. they lose one of their top players to BU and now they have just revamped like any chance you'd be in Vegas for the Frozen Four if they get there I mean I would absolutely love love to go um the one time they won the national championship I had this run of like sending a messages watching the game and I get superstitious and I was like I'm not watching this one and they won and so now I'm like I don't think I can watch so I don't watch anymore every time Warroad has been to the state championship since I last won I've watched and they've lost and so I don't know I got like this little superstition in me that if I go I spoke to North Dakota in Denver one time when we were there playing I spoke to him before the period or before the game they got off like 6-1 no that's the worst feeling Oh, I know. And so it's like, I don't know if I can do it. But Dane Jackson has him playing hard. I will say, Jackson was my assistant coach for two of the years, my sophomore and junior year there. And when he got the job, he immediately went around to all of us older guys that have gone. And I think I had a three hour face to face meeting with him at Interlochen. And he's like, oh, she talked to me about the culture. How did you talk to me about the culture, what you guys did, how you built that, why everyone loved and played so hard for each other. because back in the day we would you know and college hockey you know everything's a little bit different but in north dakota we were like we're gonna hit you as hard as possible we're gonna work harder than everyone and we have some skill to back it up and he's like i want that like that family culture mentality like i feel like we might be missing that a little bit man he went around not just me some of the other players that went to north dakota too and talked it was a lot of culture stuff a little x and o's but mostly like why were you guys so tight why did you love each other so much what did you do off the ice how what was the living situations all this other stuff and and uh he's just trying to soak it all in and looks like it's working because they're they're buzzing i love to see it north dakota i feel like just with the history like they should be up there you know with the michigans the boston teams um so i use this word lightly i'm addicted to college hockey now after that experience at penn state i've been to one i've been to one program every I man it's so funny like all the junior guys like anytime they ask about college and you get like gosh man that would have been awesome oh I would never have played pro if I went to college zero percent yeah yeah I would have been I would have been the experience you would have been addicted yeah it's easier to be like Van Wylander yeah I know I can't believe I made it out if I would have been over a year I might not have if you had NIL money you wouldn't know no no unreal well gosh thanks so much for joining us again you're the man dude and uh we'll see you on tv during the olympics yeah i appreciate you boys be good thanks osha babe all right gang before we go any further i want to talk to you about noble you guys know exactly what noble is we got the tom brady interview he's a big big backer in it one of the best athletic brands out there right now. 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Very funny tweet this morning, or PR release, from the Oswego Generals. Have you seen this one? No. No. Why are you fucking smirking like that? the Auschwitz Generals felt the need to address their fan base and basically paraphrasing here say that you guys gotta start taking showers our arena smells so bad we're gonna need you guys to take care of your BO to help ensure a clean comfortable and enjoyable experience for everyone we kindly ask for your cooperation with a few simple hygiene practices is please make use of the hand sanitizing stations located throughout the arena, cover coughs and sneezes, and be mindful of personal cleanliness while sharing our space with fellow fans. If you went to the gym or did something that produced body odor, please shower before attending the game. Oh, my God. By the way, this PR guy will be hired by the New Jersey Devils at some point, but what a fucking ridiculous imagine how bad it's already embarrassing to be known as the stinkiest fan base in hockey for a team to have to release that was it an email or was it a tweet? it was like an email it was an email it was an email to all season ticket holders the tweet I saw said very curious about what prompted a personal hygiene email from the Oshawa generals to their season ticket holders And I can't imagine walking into that barn and the stench and the odor that must have hit you right as the doors open for the team to have to send an email out to their fans. Because it couldn't happen overnight, right? It had to happen in their life. This is probably like they got enough complaints over the course of the season. What starts in September, right? We're six, seven months into this thing, and we got people that are not using deodorant, going to Oxford General's games. do you remember their barn being stinky? Carol is in shambles. No adult. No adult. Because everyone who is a season ticket holder is an adult. No adult should have to be told to shower. Or brush your teeth. Or wash your ass. Bring Bernie in. Bring Bernie up. You know, and this goes into Biz peeing in the middle of pods into the bottle. No, no, no. Actually, it's funny you say that. I was literally going to dump the rest of this. The one that I got the sodium in. That's his pee. A hose? That's the way you use the drink. Wide nozzle? Not a big deal. Oh, man, it's just a bad, like, imagine, like, your wife seeing that email, and it's like, oh, shit, babe, I got a shower. Well, it's not everybody. There's a select few, as I put my. I know, but it's way more than we think. If the email's going on, it's not like there's seven fans in Section 7. Mind you, a junior game, like, it's not like everyone's, like, They're pretty spread out, unless Oshawa's getting $12,000 a night where you're sitting there. But, I mean, if that's a spread out junior barn stinking like that, the team should lose all rights. The team should have to fold. You know, we've chirped players before that have gotten drafted by teams, Eric Lindros, Eli Manning. I'm not playing there. If a kid gets drafted by the Oshawa Generals this year in the first round, I get it. If he's like, I'm not dealing with that. My game will go downhill fast if my nose is disgustingly trying to figure out a four check, and I can't get the puck off my stick quick enough to change and get into my fours. Oh, they're not at the fours. He's that's Team Canada. My apologies. But crazy, crazy. They should bring back the, remember the little Dracod Noir things they tell in the bathrooms at the movie theater? They've got to bring those back. Right next to the rubbers. All right. no but I think that well one personal hygiene like I shower minimum twice a day I use skin care products like I use a face cloth every time I'm in this they weren't emailing you no I know but I'm talking about personal hygiene and how it's something that I think that is overlooked a little bit yeah it's an important thing I'm ranting here so I'm talking to all the guys out there you know who we need to get on to talk about this Who? Come on. No. Leon. Fuck no. Leon. No offense, RA. Hold on. Hold on. I want to think who you're thinking about. Come on, guys. I bet you he would have a 20-minute rant about this. Avery. Avery. Sean fucking Avery. And I'm on board with him, man. Boys, men, take care of yourself. Clip your toenails. Okay? Wash your ass. I wash with a face cloth every single time I go in the shower. fucking head to toe between my toes when i get out of the shower i dry between my toes make sure you're putting lotion on your body make sure you're using good deodorant brush your teeth i i probably brush my teeth three times a day now and i do it with the like one toothpaste to start and then i move to like a whitener okay it's just little shit i don't floss enough i gotta floss more too man they say that when the food like the bacteria between your teeth like the food if it builds up it affects your brain like if you know so you should be flossing way more like that's what tends to remind me like oh my guys with my brain being fucked up enough so guys out there especially you oshawa general season ticket holders like come on yeah they should get the outdoor showers and just hose them down before they come in the building yeah they might they it might turn into that but it's like austin towers line that's not what the commissioner of the OHL was looking for this morning was an email to season ticket holders about just taking showers. Should I do a video trying to teach hygiene? You have a shower video. There is one out there. Your commercial that's always on, DraftKings. Yeah, but I wasn't really scrubbing between the toes. Those were the general fans screaming at them outside the shower. Get out! Get out! Drop that soap! You don't want its poison. Alright, let's bring on R.A. Hello, everybody. Welcome to R.A.'s World here on the Spittin' Chicklets Podcast. Pointing at that USA. Keith, I see that. Biz, you shower twice a day, brother. That's a little OCD, no? Oh, you think? Twice a day, all right. I got the worst OCD going. You should see my... Twice is normal. All right. In the morning and then before bed. Not like, great. R.A.'s World Live from Oshawa. R.A., are you a season ticket holder of Oshawa General? No, but like, I'm not like a skim. I don't shower every single day. I mean, I don't feel like I need to every single day. I mean, obviously, business has much more things going on than I do, but I don't, you know. I think what the thing is, R.A., is most people, if you don't even know it, you're sweating while you sleep. Oh, dude. I like a nice, cool place, but my duvet is so fucking heavy. I swept my balls up underneath it, even though my house is like 48 degrees. I think you're proving it. All right, he's going to be at the picket line going on strike with the Osher General. I do shout before I go to the games. But anyways, it's been a 12-year away, boys. It's great to have these guys back. The 2,900 athletes all together. There's at least one rep from all 32 teams in the NHL. But I think one thing that hasn't really been talked about is the gold medal game. No more shootouts. They're going to go 20 minutes overtime, three on three. I mean, I can't imagine they're going to go more than one overtime, but that's unbelievable. Did you know this, Whit, that they're going three on three? I did. I saw it. I kind of wish it was five on five. I love the fact that the shootout's gone. Three on three for a gold medal. I remember first seeing it at the World Juniors. I'm like, ah. Now, it was four on four in 2010, but that's a little bit more legit than three on three to me. It would be electric. You know, don't get me wrong. it's more just like fuck that's like a kind of a tough way to go down but i do love the no shoot out all right that's not how you yeah i think the boys they should do they should go five on five for for for ten minutes maybe flood or scrape it then go four on four just scrape the ice four on four and then and then the three on three going right to three on three is a fucking deal that's not hockey well but if we're gonna get if we're gonna get rid of shootouts like i'll take that, right? Deal. Well, I got you. I want to ask, what's the difference in pressure if any between, say, NHL playoffs versus the Olympics? You know, took five in both. So I played the cup finals, game five in Detroit, and then the gold medal was overtime. That was double overtime when Talbot scored, and then the gold medal game overtime. It was pretty similar based on the fact that if Detroit scored, they won the cup. So I don't feel like it was that like one more than the other but I do remember after being like wow like and this is not trying to sound like a hard or anything like I didn't feel that nervous you know what I'll try in the Detroit Pittsburgh game I didn't I was playing a lot the U.S. game I was nervous shit because I knew I wasn't seeing the ice so I felt like a fan I felt like how everyone else felt watching the game but when I was getting a regular shift in that um game five Detroit Pittsburgh 08 I I was I was calm I was just like very focused and the whole team was and it wasn't it wasn't a feeling of like panic as as fans have or as I did in the gold medal game in 2020 just just 2010 just watching did you think that there was a chance also that you would be thrown in at any point or zero they could have been down to 3d in that overtime against Canada and they were rolling three and I kind of got at that point I gave that goal Perry scored I was done after that after that goal Perry scored in the gold medal game I was done it's always worse when you don't have that control right yeah that's exactly it like in the Pittsburgh game it's like you're out there you're making plays you're not thinking of how big the moment is you're just doing what you did in the first period as a fan and as a guy on the bench you were just like ass puckered up please score please score please score so but it was it was incredible either way just like knowing the moment and how big it was all right i would assume like less like way less margin for error right you could play probably going into game one of the stanley cup finals you're probably nervous you know you haven't seen this team since the regular season you know new matchup like what's it going to look like but you're also familiar with all your teammates you've been playing with them all year so not only playing with new teammates and having to get adjusted so quickly i mean if you reach the gold medal game it's going to be your sixth game together and fucking you better you better adjust quick and you might not have even seen them throughout the tournament i'm not sure if you saw the drew dowdy quote earlier i think it was uh after the kid in the game he said this is the first time i've been nervous in like 10 15 years like you know nate was too forever yeah nate said he couldn't pre-game that which is shocking to hear yeah he said it was a good thing too. I know you guys shouted out the U.S. ladies earlier. I think they're maybe the most dominant hockey program on the planet right now. Like from the top down. Like I said, we mentioned they won the, I think it was under 17 world championships a couple weeks back. But I'll throw in the opposition 20-1 so far. So I just want to give those ladies a shout out. I can't believe how good girls are now. I shouldn't say I can't believe, but I remember 98, that team, and like listen, they were good players. It was a great win for the U.S. I see these girls now in the town I live in, Milton, they have an incredible girls program. They like the U12, U14. And then just seeing some how skilled these these women are now, it's wild. I think could be wrong here. Fastest growing women's sport in the country. The amount of skill, it's more the speed that's different now. And that is the same. You know, the men are way faster than they were in 98. But girls hockey is so popular now. and the girls have turned into truly incredible players. And, yeah, the United States, it seems like they, like I said earlier, have really turned a corner and taken over this thing. And youth, too. I believe what are eight of the current players on Team USA are under the age of 24 for the women's. And Canada elected a goal for an older group this year, and it looked like they were playing different fucking leagues. Yeah, the skill, like you said, just like, I mean, it's all heads. You don't have to be big or muscular or whatever. It's just all dexterity with the hands. And what we see now, these young ladies is awesome. But they also let them play. They're hard. The physicality has ramped up big time in the last couple of years of watching it. There's no more where they don't hit each other at all. If they're on the boards, they finish checks. Not as much open ice hitting, I don't think, or if any. But the on-the-board stuff is pretty gnarly. Yeah, the PWHL, they do smack each other around quite a bit out there. You know, I know it used to be illegal to check, but they've kind of, like, I don't know if they took that rule away, but they definitely, like, let up on it. They kind of let these girls beat the shit out of each other, which is hockey. I've got to give a shout-out, like, again, to the Slovaks. Huge upset over the Finns. What's the Finns behind the eight-ball, man? They've got to play the Swedes. But, like I said, I had 80-1 to them before the Olympics started. They went down to, I think, 65. They're at 50-1 right now. A lot of hockey to be played, but I just want to give those boys a shout-out. And how about Sweden? I know, you know, Italy gave them a good punch. Sweden was $20,000 to make $100,000 in that game. Yes, Dave. Absolutely insane. You're a sick prick if you're doing that. Yeah. Is there a person that would make that bet? Yeah, just come on, Miles. We can bet on coin flips in my basement if you want to fucking, if you're that much of a D-gen. But we've got to give a shout-out. 38-year-old Leonardo Giannone became the oldest goalie in the NHL Olympic era with a shout-out for Switzerland, 27 saves. I want to give the old man a little shout-out there. Against France, right? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. enough. We've got to talk about this. The Norwegian biathlete crash out. Bro, I don't know if you saw this. Norwegian biathlete, Sterla Holm Legreed. Sorry if I butchered the name, buddy. He did an interview after winning bronze and he proceeds to tell the world that the moment wasn't complete without his ex-girlfriend because he cheated on her. He said it to the whole fucking world. Six months ago, I met the love of my life, the world's most beautiful, sweetest person. And three months ago, I made the biggest mistake of my life and cheated on her. No. I was like, what he had done in the hopes that she might recognize what she means to me. It's like, bro, you already humiliated her once in personal life. Now you did it to the whole fucking world. Was it a live hit? You guys hear the Auschwitz Generals sent out an email to shower before the games? No fucking way. Are you serious? Did you guys talk about this really? No. What do you think about it? he's not happy what if your girl went off to the Olympics and did that to you would you be like you fucking cunt well dude it's a double humiliation for it first you get cheated on then this guy sends it to the whole fucking world that's just brutal absolutely fucking brutal I don't know what he was thinking and then the Norwegian team put out a statement and he apologized to the guy who won the gold for taking all the attention away from him but I hope she's doing well I cannot undo this but I will put it behind He had focused on the Olympics. But right now, if there's a donkey of Milan award for the Olympics, this guy is the fucking front runner right now. I think he was just trying to get his fucking dog back, boys. Jesus Christ, lay off the guy. The donkey of the Olympics, all right, did you catch what the French judges did to the pairs figure skating? Did you catch that? Oh, my God. Gee, get the names of the U.S. They're heads and shoulders, the best dancing team in figure skating in the world. They're incredible. I think his last name is like Block or something, the man. They were dead even going into the second night, U.S. and France, okay? Actually, U.S. was like half a point down, but basically dead even. The only reason they were half a point down is because the French judges had had these ridiculous scores. You know how most of the judges, it's all pretty similar, right, the scoring? So they go into the second night, same exact thing. The French judges, they crucify the American team by like a ridiculous amount. It's blatant cheating. It's an absolute joke. The French team won the gold medal. It was completely ridiculous. I'm telling you, there needs to be an inquiry or there needs to be. How much was the difference where it was obvious? It was like 10 points or something like that. Like I'm kind of guessing, but something that was so evident and obvious from the French judges only. And then the French team ended up winning. Like it was blatant. Did they interview the American pair after? and did they have any comments? I don't know. I was just, I was, I couldn't believe it. I was disgusted. It was, it was, it was cheating the first night and then it was even more blatant, a stolen gold medal from these two Americans. It was a joke. I would love to see what the French judge looks like right now. I gotta see a picture of the French judge. Absolutely. All right, we need this. Fuck you, Americanos, if I could beg it. Joke. Conversely, though, we did have a pretty cool moment. I'm not really familiar with the rules of curling, but the U.S. men's curling team, they were down 8-2. But instead of conceding the match, they got their 54-year-old alternate, Rich Ruhonen, I hope I'm pronouncing his name right. They brought him in so he can officially be an Olympian. He's the oldest member of the U.S. contingent. He's been part of the senior team for a long time. He's almost like another coach. So I thought that was a pretty cool moment that they could have just conceded the game and it's over, but instead they brought this guy in just to make him an official Olympian. So I thought that was pretty good stuff. A little counterbalance. Classy. The guy fucking throwing his extra open down the fucking stool. Listen, next thing, I know a lot of our crowd doesn't give a shit about the Barstool's character. All right, do you think he did it because he was trying to get her back? Awful way to do it, bro. Like, tell the whole word you cheated on. No, I think he just probably had a lot of emotions. He probably was feeling guilty, and he just made an awful decision. And, yeah, he could have kept that private. Like I said, he took the steam away from the guy who won the gold on his team. He thought it was going to go different. Oh, the guy who won the gold was also from his country. Yeah, and everyone kind of focused on that, him fucking being a peck ahead instead of the guy who won the gold. So, yeah, like I said, the girl, man, it's like, yeah, he already screwed over once, and now you literally tell the whole fucking planet, oh, fuck it, I cheated on him. Yeah, yeah, the discrepancy of him being his teammate I was not aware of. Did you mention that earlier? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, kind of like you guys mentioned that. I need to throw Witt's ears on for next pod. But, like, I know, like I said, I know a lot of our audience doesn't give a shit about the Bostu character stuff, but we got to talk about this mincy fucking plane stuff. Like, did you guys talk about it earlier before I got on? No, no, no. Witt has gotten kind of sucked into the middle of it. Oh, I put myself into the middle of it. No, and honestly, like, of all that, like, Biz, you were part of the Arizona trip. Of all that shit, though, you know what he was, you know, of all the, like, sort of dirtbag stuff he did then, it was to people in his own orbit. You know, it was, like, people who were involved with him as friends or associates or whatever. But to splay yourself out on two seats of a plane so that your legs are dangling outside. If I was on the plane, I would have been praying for turbulence and the fucking beverage cat gets away from the stewardess and fucking Joe Theismann's his fucking leg. Like, I'm a tall guy. If I sit in the aisle, I get to watch my knee just going into the thing. The fact that he fucking sways out like that, leaves his legs dangling, puts the fucking seat back on the guy next to him for no absolute reason. And then Donnie caught up with him in a Turkish fucking bath, and he just, like, offered the worst excuse ever. Like, oh, I thought I could lay there. Bro, you're fucking six feet tall. You think your legs shrink when you're 35,000 feet up? Dude, just this guy, man. I don't know, man. Like, wait, you and Adam called him fucking whatever you call him. Like, look at that. Like, who the fuck does that? He's just the most inconsiderate person in the world. And it's very funny that he released a statement today. I'll call it a statement with Donnie does where he just went after me and I'm a miserable guy and I'm a dickhead and I'm living. I must be living a heavy life to be this miserable. Mintz, I'm just somebody that will actually call you up because all these barstool goons, they just laugh at him and they're not laughing with him. They're laughing right at him. Right. And Dan just loves it. It's literally Dan's entertainment. It's like this clown in the circus. I thought Dave hired him. Well, Dave can't stand him. Dan said he hopes. Dave would have stabbed him. Dave legit can't stand him. Dan, I believe, said he hopes he gets kidnapped in Turkey. And then Mincy comes at me because he's obviously not going to go with them. But he came at me. Wait, does he know the guy who's next to him? I think he does. I think he does know him. But I was actually like, I would be like, oh, I wish I was that guy woke up and had his like head in my lap and just like, boom, elbow right to the temple. Like, get out of my space. The middle space is shared by both of us. I'm not going to have you laying down on me. And Mipsy is just, he's so, like, infuriating. Like, it's just a guy who never seems to apologize, or he doesn't. They're like these half-ass apologies. And why do I care he doesn't do anything to me? I don't really know. I guess maybe, you know, I love the fact Brandon Walker's the one guy there. Brandon Walker could almost be like a Massachusetts guy because he just can be a real prick sometimes, but in a funny way. He's been saying for years, this guy sucks. This guy. He is. This guy. And I was always like, wow, he really can't stand this guy. And the more mincy content, and I'll call it content. That is the most disgusting term of the word content. It's a guy whose content is to act a fool and then just be laughed at. He never. Dan. I'm like, Dan, he doesn't make content. His content. Is he doing it on purpose? I don't even know. Sometimes I do think it's on purpose, though. Is he dumb as a fox? Like, what are those type of things? Yeah, I don't know. But, like, he came at me where there had to be, I don't know, 2,000 tweets about him laying on the plane right now, and I just said, this guy flat out sucks. And he came at me, and he said, I'm Missy. Mincy, I can't get by seeing what you do and seeing you get away with it. It's the Jesse Pinkman in Breaking Bad. He can't keep getting away with this. I know what Vince is doing right now. Let's see your $4,000 ruined wall that he laid a wet bathing suit on. I would say $1,500. $1,500 wet bathing suit on. And then, like, look at that. So I kind of actually, like. You're so nice, Vince. I don't take into what you're going to say here because you're a nice guy. I feel like he's added value to my home, so I can't really judge selfishly. It's like Babe Ruth's shit in his bathroom. And what sucks already is I wish we had a barstool person on to say all the things that this guy has done, dude. And Brandon Walker, he retweeted that. Been telling you all fears. Like he just said, like, you know, Walker has been beating this drum. And the ironic thing, well, no, he's going there for bald school. Like, I don't, like, once on done, they go to Turkey. I guess they're the redound for doing these, you know, wonderful hair transplants. And he's like, wait a minute. He's not even fucking bald. Like, he's like, oh, he got a little bit of a bald spot. It's like, bro got a good head of hair for 42 years old. So it's like, I think he's, is he going there just for the free trip? And then today, I don't think he's a free trip. 42 years old acting like this? Yeah. And then did you see the clip? I think it was today, like the Turkish ice cream guy. Like, you know, he plays like tricks with the ice cream. Those are funny. And then he gives it to him. And then he starts walking away. And someone behind him goes, uh, Mitzi, are you going to pay for that? It's like, it's like, bro, like just, you know what I mean? Like, I have limited interaction with the guy. I have no real beef on him. How the fuck would I pay money to fight him in a rough and rowdy? R.A. would punch his eyes shut. And paid is a very strong word. I do not hate Minty at all. I don't even really know him. That doesn't sound it. He just drives me nuts. He drives me nuts. Everything that he does is just inconsiderate to others constantly. And he has the greatest job in the world. And I don't get how he has it. And he's just there being. I just want to understand the burden Ron Whitney must carry around to Earth every day being that negative. Just to you. I've never heard him say anything positive. Not about you. He's been known for five years. Talk about his butt cheeky. Look, I mean, I don't know what I ever did to that guy. Who said that? Who said that? It's just like, it's just got to be heavy just being negative everywhere you go, putting that kind of energy into the world. I don't know. And it's crazy. It's all bad for him. He was the one who once told Dave Portnoy to choose love. Donnie does look in the mirror Ryan have you ever chosen one? I just want to hear something positive once out of his mouth say something positive about that video Donnie looks great White Sox Dave cracks me up always kind of gone to battle with him but he's funny but White Sox Dave works and he makes content he's on a show I think it's a daily show he's on the dog he does stuff and Mincy I'll tell you right now please God, please God, don't ever say you feel bad for me again, Minty. I'm a grown adult with a wife and children and a job, and I show up to work and I do my job, and I don't lay my feet across seats on an airplane, and I don't lay wet bathing suits on my friend's house and ruin the $1,500 finishing of his wall, and I don't look around and walk around searching for free gifts and free items, and I do not grift my way through life. So you can't feel bad for me, Mincy. I feel for you. I feel for the lack of ability that you have to ever notice that you're just ruining people's days. And people get very, they get a ton of laughs out of his content. And once again, I do not dislike this guy. I don't know him. It's just the things I see. I have to say something at some point, R.A. I have to help Brandon Walker. And I have to wonder, all these people in Chicago, you sit around and you're just laughing at him. Why don't you speak up and say, grow up, Ben Mintz. Grow up. You have the job of a lifetime. Once again, I don't know how. Pull it together one time. Bring some money to this company. Why don't you just choose love with Mintz? I can't. I can't. Maybe that's me. I would say, as far as rants slash speeches, I would say Martin Luther King and then Ryan Whitney. You just went on that. And Martin Luther King, you think he'd be a fan of Mincy? He wasn't looking for handouts. He was looking to go out there and grind and earn your way and don't let anyone shut you down. Mincy doesn't let anyone shut him down, but it's just stupidity. He's not funny anymore. What is the term? Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to go through life. R.A., name your price. How much would it cost to get you in a ring with Mincy? $250. Okay, Dave. Done. Done. The ball is in your court, Dave Portnoy. But 250 G to Minty for fighting. No, for the winner. Winner gets it. Okay. I would say that R.A. has to be guaranteed a certain amount, given he's 10 years older than Minty. What if losers guaranteed 50, winner gets 250? I think that R.A. should be guaranteed. I think it should go based off pay-per-views, Because I think R.A. could outsell Canseco. Oh, yeah. R.A., could you imagine? He would sell, too, dude. He would sell a lot. A lot of people would want to do that. That would be the first thing he's done for the company. That would be like King Hippo versus Glass Joe from fucking Mike Tyson. But R.A., man, you could start out with power walking every day for a couple weeks and then build up to a light jaw. Let me train him. I'll fucking stick needles in your ass. Hey, I'll tell you this. Mincy, once again, Mincy, I'll speak to you to the camera. I don't hate you, buddy. I don't dislike you. It's just the way you go through life. It's just, and this is my sense of humor, right? Like I can come off as a miserable guy. I'm not a miserable guy. Yeah, but you guys are good at doing it. You guys are good miserable. I think if you ask these guys, they know I'm not a miserable guy. I come off miserable. It's just your antics. They drive me crazy. Yeah, exactly. it's one thing when you're affecting people in your orbit, but when you're, like, you know, banging your legs out on fucking Delta flight, fucking 718, waiting to get them chopped off by a beverage car. That was a cross-country flight, by the way. No, it was a cross-country flight. That was cross-Atlantic. Or, I mean, yeah, that's what I meant. Fuck me. We're getting late. Well, speaking of how sleep his legs were when he woke up, hanging off the side. And when Donnie got him in the Turkish bathroom, he was like, well, I thought I could lay down. It's like, bro, you're fucking, even if you had all three seats, something's going to be dangling. The idea that he would, like, not be dangling in the aisle with fucking on two seats, man. But enough of Mitchie. Talking about things in space, we talked a couple episodes ago about my Twitter header, the picture from space. A lot of folks were asking why the interview was never posted. Just want to follow up on that. It wasn't actually a Chicklets interview. It was Colonel Mike Hopkins, by the way. He said, call me Hopper. It was Hopper's request to get a taste of home while he was in space. And like I said, I couldn't believe of all the 7 billion people below him. He picked us three Pekka heads. And the Artemis launched the next NASA mission, first time in 50 years. They're going by the moon. It got delayed because of weather, so he's going to be covering it on CBS. Said two of his classmates were aboard and one he flew with on last mission. So I just want to give a shout-out to Colonel Mike Hopkins. He checked in after. Just a great guy, and it was legit one of my favorite experiences. Yeah, I was blown away. I thought Foley was back to his nonsense when we heard that we were going to be talking to an astronaut from space. I think that a lot of people would probably love to hear about that experience, and maybe we get them on, maybe even during the Olympics. Absolutely, man. Yeah, I mean, we haven't followed up yet, but it was just, like, unreal. I'll never forget, I was sitting in my living room, and, like, when he popped up on that Zoom, and just to see, like, the Earth below him, and we're, like, down there, it was just amazing. I think we started the interview looking at, like, Thailand, and the next thing you know, we were back in North America by the time it ended. We were above Vancouver, and then we finished. We were above Vietnam. That's how it started. Okay. Hey, why don't we do that for next RA's world? Bring them in for, like, an interview with all of us. That would be awesome. That would be fun. I mean, there is a planet on your intro. Yeah. Which one is it? Yeah. Yeah, and then we'll add him to the new intro. Or I just had to shower before that interview. That's true. That's the deal. I smell like a fucking Martian right now. No picture, obviously. I gave my Olympic pics, no more NFL. But my classic recommendation for the week, Witness, 1985 movie, Harrison Ford's not in it. It's the only acting nomination in Harrison Ford's career. It was also nominated for Best Picture. It's about a little Amish boy who witnesses a murder, and he's the witness of the movie. and then Harrison Ford has to kind of tuck him away and then they're kind of coming after him. Legit, awesome movie. Harrison Ford, like everyone's used to, you know, Indiana Jones, Han Solo, all that stuff. This is him in a little more subdued role. Again, his only actor nomination in his awesome career. So witness, give it a whirl, you will not be disappointed. Great stuff. I love it, R.A. I also want to say having the best-on-best back, you kind of forgot how sick this is. Even when you look at teams like Italy and that they're not going to do anything, It's still just so sick to see all these guys playing together. And then all these dudes on the teams that don't, you know, have much expectations, how hard they're going. It is, I kind of forgot. We got a little taste last year, but having 12 countries opposed to four, it is special. Looking forward to these next 10 days or whatever it is. And, boys, next podcast dropping on Monday morning, correct? Yes, Monday morning. We're going to get together. We're all going down to Florida. So we'll be streaming. Gee, hop on here. I know we're streaming the gold medal game. Are we streaming other games? Yeah, so the plan is to stream the 20th and the 22nd. We'll be doing that from Yann's house down in Florida. So we're going to stream some of the semifinal games, and then we'll do the gold medal game on the 22nd. And then we're actually going to record a pod right after that, and then that will also drop the following morning. So right after the gold medal game, you'll have our reactions the next morning. And we're going down, we're recording Sunday for this next episode and dropping Monday because Monday afternoon we got a sandbagger. with Coach John Gruden. I cannot wait for this. The guy just put on a clinic in content at the Super Bowl. He's a machine. I believe right before we started recording, he dropped an interview with Bo Jackson. So that's probably must-see TV right there. And we're going to get to spend four hours on the golf course with him. That'll be coming out at some point in the next month or two. What's your snap count? Can I hear your snap count? I need to work on it. I want to do it in front of Coach. I'm not wasting it right now. We all have to work on our snap counts. I don't have to work on mine. Oh, you have yours already? Okay, don't give it down. Don't give it down. That needs to be part of the sandbagger. That needs to be part of the sandbagger. A lot of people wondering why we didn't end up going to the Olympics. I just thought that we're going to get a lot done when we're in Florida. We're going to be banking three sandbaggers down there. We're going to be getting some of the Toronto Blue Jays. We're going to get Ernie Clement. They were trying to get Springer, but I think his wrist isn't up to snuff right now, and he wants to stay focused on baseball. So I believe Hoffman is another name. Oh, there's your Bo Jackson jersey. And then I think we have Schneider as well. And then we're going to move over to Lauderdale, Yann's house and Yann's bunker. We're going to be doing tons of interviews and we will be doing the Bob Does sequel. The Bob Does Sports. We're going to be taking them on back-to-back, one on our channel, one on theirs. So we have so many amazing interviews planned, a lot of content that we could get during this break. And, yeah, it sucks not to be there, but, fuck, watching on TV is awesome too, man. It's nice being at the comfort of your own home. Why do you have that look on your face? These Bob Doz guys, they just don't stop coming at me. It's unbelievable. I told – I was speaking to them the other day. If we sweep them, it's getting changed to biz, the sports. These fucking guys. We owe these guys. It's unbelievable. Hey, speaking of the schoolboy, Jens, How about my mother ended up hanging out with your uncle? Oh, how crazy was that? I already sent me a picture of me, his mom, and my uncle, one of my mom's brother who has lived in Florida for 40 years, just randomly hanging out. Yeah, they both did the same square. Yeah, I'm not a huge Jersey guy, but Bo Jackson's one of the only people I own. Last thing I wanted to say, Ari, I don't know if you saw the Lindsey Vonn stuff. Yeah. And Yann's. So there was one lady who came out with a critical video and it kind of went viral. I think a lot of people were dumping on her, basically saying, my gosh, she's doing this for attention, blah, blah, blah. Just some fucking idiot who's probably never accomplished one thing in her life. And it just so happens, Lindsey Vonn got injured right before the Olympics. She got a chair lifted out of there or like whatever, a helicopter evac and ruptured her ACL. So essentially, fuck, man, this is probably going to be her last kick at the can for the Olympics. Well, you see her like the next couple of days. She's back in the saddle where she's training, doing leg exercises and probably trying to prehab her knee to prepare to give it her last kick at the can. And buddy, I experienced the same fucking thing where in my last year I tore my one ACL, tried to prehab it. And like it had everything to do with the fact that Lindsey Vonn is a fucking such a decorated athlete for the United States. She qualifies for this Olympics and she gets her last kick at the can and all of a sudden she ruptures her ACL right before the Olympics games. How about having the jam to still represent your country and go out swinging on a goal? And I just talked earlier about the drone shots. These guys and girls are essentially risking their lives every time they're heading down the mountain with how fast they're going. and she's doing it on a one ACL. So, heck, maybe she could put together the run of a lifetime and steal a gold medal, and it would probably go down as one of the greatest Olympic stories of all time. The fact that she had the jam to do that and then is facing criticism from donkeys online saying that she's doing it for attention, she's put her entire life into downhill skiing. And she's one of the most decorated American, well-known athletes of all time and has done so much even away from skiing. So I commend Lindsey Vonn for having the jam to do that sport on one leg and ends up crashing out again. And obviously her career is over. I think she's had two if not three surgeries since that crash at the Olympics. And I just wanted to make sure we gave her her flowers and her love because that's probably the last time she's going to compete at that level. And what a way to go out. and I have all the respect in the world for you, Lindsay, and what a career. And, Biz, I want to jump on that too. I don't know if you saw Ray Ferraro's tweet. He said, I see a lot of people on here criticizing Lindsay Vaughn today. I don't know her, never met her. I had damage to my right knee as I closed out my career in 0-2, got hit in my last series against Detroit, and as I sat in the locker room, I thought, there is no way I want my career to end here. ACL gone. I was able to brace it and play the remainder of the series. was it the right thing to do for me and many others 100% yes unless you're in the arena you can never really know the fact of the matter is that Vaughn wanted to go out on her own terms I thought that was a great tweet by Ray what a fucking find by you Ray that's incredible and that's not even the same sport so what she's doing is raising awareness just for athletes in general being tough wanting to represent your country wanting to be there to I mean she's probably helped coaching half of these girls right Like she's the head figure there. She's probably taken on a captaincy role as the, for the U.S. Wim ski team. So if you are criticizing her or think that she's doing that for her own benefit, she's done everything. She's accomplished everything she needs to. She was showing what it's like to be a true Olympian, a true American and hats off to her and complete, complete warrior for even showing up and knowing like she knew, right. And just like you knew, just like Ray for our new, When this is over, I'm going to have to have eight months of recovery time. My knee's never going to be the same, but fuck that. I'm going out on my own terms. So hats off to you, Lindsay. You're a G. Fucking A. Well said, Yans. And great job pulling up that tweet, RA. And that does it for RA's world, man. That was maybe my funnest one yet. Good to hear, buddy. Love to hear it, pal. Great energy, buddy. Yeah, love to hear it. Boys, well, enjoy the games over the weekend. We'll be in touch. And go USA. Biz, good luck with Canada. Arrivederci. 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