Hour 4-What does Emerson's deal mean for JP?, Schneider and Macdonald from NFL meetings, and Answer the Question Jerk

Get in the freaking arrow! From the Quantum Fiber Studio, this is Brock and Salk on Seattle Sports. I don't read the internet guy. Take the bowl by the hands. And Brooke, you are. And Brooke, you are. Now, here are your hosts, Brock Deward and Mike Saul. Cut that fire! I was pretty powerhouse, 25 minutes or so with Jeff Pass, and right until the end when he flexed on being from Cleveland. But other than that, tremendous information on the story of the day, which is the huge new deal that the Mariners have signed Colt Emerson to eight years, 95 million guaranteed and an opportunity for that to be nine years and maybe up to 130 plus million dollars. So I love his points on it, Brock. Why you get a deal like this done, why he's different from some of the other guys that have been through here. I would have added to his answer on Jared Kalnick and those guys and just said, well, there's also the mentality element. He just, it's just an easier investment in him than it would have been in Kalnick, given where he was at emotionally. This kid's a little bit more regulated. He's a little bit more mature. He's a little bit more ready, I think, to handle all of this than Jared would. But they didn't know that. I mean, the reason they were wrong on that one. Yeah, they've recently put that in front of Jared is I don't know if he expressed that until really the failure at the big league level. Yep. So you really don't fully know until... Well, you say that, but there was, if you think back and remember, Kalnick with his camera crew that he was bringing around. Oh, yeah. You know, some of the attitude of the, what was it, when he hit the fastball? Smell me later, bro. Smell me later, bro. Like, yeah, it was almost as flexy as a passing. Is it noxious as a passing? Yeah. So there were red flags, whether they saw them or not or ignored them or not, is a separate issue. Two or three of the... You just don't have those red flags here with Colt Emerson. Two or three of your biggest takeaways from Jeff, from his insight. I'll start number one, and it's a tiny little snippet. But, you know, the reason he didn't break this story was because this happened really quickly. He's usually the one that's going to break all these stories. But Mr. Murray broke it because, and you heard from, you know, that's, Jeff didn't say that, but I'm reading between the lines when Jeff said, yeah, this happened really quickly. There was not a lot of teeth pulling both sides. And from his perspective, very much player driven. Yeah. Like, yep, I want to get this done. And he and his agent approach team, and this is where I want to be. And I've seen enough and I love it here and I don't need anything else. And I want to be a Seattle Mariners. So let's put together an eight or nine year deal. I think that's a good observation, Brock. And when you combine it with the deals for Cal and Julio, it's like, yeah, he looks around and says, I want to be around this nucleus for a long time. I think that's a really, really good sign. Also that deals like this tend to work for the most part, when it's this type of contract that buys out multiple free agent years at the end before guys, they do, they've tended to be pretty successful. And whether it's Jackson, Turia or San Baccio, there's still a lot of hope. You know, the, the brewers think the Turia deal is a huge win. And the side has a chance to be really, really good. And the, the Orioles bet on that in the same way that the Mariners are betting on Colt Emerson. So there's, there's that element of, Hey, usually when these guys like this sign deals, it works out because there's enough info available on who they are coming up through the minor leagues. And then secondly, you know, my question of, Hey, what happens if there's a change to the system in baseball? Is this still a good deal? And his answer is great. It's an even better deal. Well, that's the thing. If there's a salary cap in place, then the, and again, I, I don't think there's going to be a salary cap in place. But let's just, the like, let's try and work through what it would take for players to theoretically accept something like that. The first thing that they would say is, okay, we're going to be free agents after five years. Yeah. So potentially the Mariners could be getting an extra year of free agency on top of what they're getting right now already. Yep. Good deal. And you know what? It was a good deal for Julio, four years in the bank for the buck that he produces from a wins above replacement in the money that each of those wins just statistically cost. It's been a good deal for Cal Raleigh last year. Well, it was pretty, pretty, pretty good deal. All right. So getting 60 home runs in second in the end bill. Yeah, that worked out. Okay. So, okay. So let's walk through this because his answer on JP Crawford was short and according to you, sweet, but it actually is a little bit, I think more complex. How is JP Crawford feeling today? So by the way, I was out there yesterday before the game saw JP on the infield taking, taking ground balls at short and having fun. He looked like he was in great spirits, throwing across the diamond. He took batting practice. I think he's got some triple A games ahead of him and we'll see where it goes from there. So, you know, that's kind of where JP is at health wise. But if you're JP Crawford and you see this today, you probably have to assume that your longterm future in Seattle is done as a shortstop. Yes. It's a shortstop, but you're also looking around this diamond and going, all right. Well, Cole Young is another young player that they really like, who they have club control over. I mean, he's not going to make any money for five years. So, I mean, like Cole Young's not going anywhere. He's a better defensive player right now at second base and all likelihood than JP is he's, he's hitting like there's a whole bunch of reasons to think that that's not going anywhere and you're both left handed. So it's not like there's a platoon situation. They've just traded for Brendan Donovan. It was another year after this one on his deal and the early indications are obviously very favorable, both for him as a person and for him as a player. Like if Colt Emerson is going to be here for nine years, you're not. Like I, well, you're in the final year of your deal. I mean, this is just the final piece of clarity. And you're also a grown up. You're also 30. You've also made a ton of money. You've also, you know, it's been, let me keep walking. Let me just walk through this for a moment. I'm just, I'm, I'm speculating here again, just like you said earlier, you and I are not always the best at breaking news because we generally want, it's one of the reasons I think we like morning drive is that we get some time at night to kind of noodle on these things, process, think a little bit, talk to people we know, kind of, you know, do things to, to bring you guys the most insight we can. And this is hard for us. This is not our strength, but I'm just trying to put myself in JP's shoes and trying to figure it out. If this kid's going to come up this year is it's not going to be an all likelihood to play second or third. It's going to be to play shortstop. And especially give now, look, I don't know what happens with Randy Rosarana and left field. He had another just, I thought miserable defensive night last night. I thought that there was not so much the double that got past him. I thought he actually, I thought he made, did made the right decision there. Just couldn't get there. There was it hard, but the, the ball to short right field that he did. He got called everybody off. Like that's your ball, man. Yes. And you heard Goldsmith kind of ask about it as well. Like, isn't that the right fielder's call? Like, where are you at Randy? That was, that was disturbing. So I am, I'll have my eye on Randy, of course, as you know, all year long. But unless you think that Brennan Donovan is moving to the outfield at some point this year, Colton Emerson's playing shortstop JP Crawford make it through the year. Or JP's, Hey man, this is finally your my deal anyway. Like I gotta go, I gotta go produce. Maybe I want another deal. And I don't think that I don't play. Yeah. And I don't, I'm not saying Brock that this, that this means they're going to bring Colton Emerson up any, any sooner than they would have. If anything, this gives them a lot of leeway to wait till he's really ready. Yep. But you're going to do this and not bring him up at all this year. Like at some point when they bring him up, everyone seems to think he's up to stay. So I do have some questions about how this affects JP Crawford, not just for the future. I agree with Jeff, his long-term future with Seattle is probably over. I'm all curious for what it means this year. I still think he's going to play third. Colt and they'll just move down of it around. I don't think you're trading right when player off your team when you're trying to compete for a world. I would certainly would certainly seem odd. Wouldn't it? Yeah. No, I think you're probably right. The beauty of baseball is these things tend to, and I don't like to say as much as you do, I don't just baseball, but I totally understand where that's coming from. I like to think that man, over time, this will work itself out. Maybe maybe Donovan, it just isn't a fit. Yeah. Third base every single day. Right. I mean, it's it's been a little, it's been cold. It's been tough. There's adjustments. He's trying to do this full time and we'll just see how it all works. Maybe it's not the most natural thing for him and it will be for Colt when he comes out. Yeah, it is. It has not been a smooth transition to third base, at least through the first five games of the season. It has not been the strength of Donovan's game. I think we'll see how JP's shoulder plays out and we'll see how all of that works itself out. Like the beauty of 162 data points is it gives you a lot of information, like a lot, a lot. And many times these things kind of like last year with Jorge Polanco at third base, how is this? Well, it's not going to work out and it's going to work out in a different way, in a different vein. It's going to take a different. Whatever. These are, these are good problems to have, right? Having too many good players and trying to figure out how to play them all. Dan can figure all that out. This is a good problem to have and one that we're not all that familiar with here in Seattle. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock Heard and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP, CRMs and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. Marquis IQ brings all your data together into one clear view. Even if it lives in disconnected systems or offline so you can see what's really happening and act faster, stop running your business on highlights, get the full picture, visit data. The wins.com to see what Marquis IQ can do. Stream every Seattle sports show with the Seattle Sports app brought to you by Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center. Get new videos, podcasts and articles on the Seahawks and Mariners from your favorite Seattle Sports personalities daily. Old windows, costume, money and security. Lake Washington Windows and doors installs energy efficient, high security windows that lower your bills and increase protection. With leak armor installation and lifetime warranties, you're protected for life. Choose LakeWashingtonWindows.com today. Need to know. 15 minutes past every hour with Brock and Solk. Presented by Marquis data. Here's what you need to know. Up first. Well, huge new contract for no, not Logan Gilbert, not Brian Woo. It's actually Colt Emerson, a guy who's never played a single game in the big leagues. He gets $95 million. $95 million over an eight year deal could extend to nine years with a club option, could extend over $130 million. It is a, I think great deal for the Mariners and for Colt Emerson. I really think this is a win, win for everybody. Jeff Passon joined us last hour. The idea is very simple guys. Three-agent years are incredibly valuable, especially when those pre-agent years are in the prime of a player's career. And if you can get those locked up, if you can get those at a discount to what the price is going to be for top end players and you believe that this guy is going to be a frontline player, then you're willing to guarantee him the sort of money up front that teams in the past just simply weren't willing to. Okay. So that's why they make a deal like this Brock. And I kind of went through it from Colt Emerson's point of view earlier of like, yeah, if anything happens, I make a hundred million dollars. If I outplay the contract, I have a chance to go make even more money. And maybe I haven't maximized every single cent that I'm capable of. But in the meantime, I've protected myself by ensuring I make at least a hundred million dollars in my career. That's a pretty good deal. The bigger issue may actually be what it says about who the Mariners are right now. But when you, when you have Julio Rodriguez and Cal Raleigh and Colt Emerson, three of your four of the middle players locked up for the better part of half a decade. You're in a really good spot. And when Colt Emerson showed a willingness to do this, this deal came together pretty quickly. Like there was not a whole lot of teeth pulling in this process. There was not, you know, there's back and forth in any dealmaking scenario, of course, but this one, it was much more pleasant than most. And talking up the middle, you've got that pitching staff and the guys on the who are on the way and and Cole Young, who I mean, like. It's become a destination, ma'am. It's become a destination. It became a destination for Josh Naylor. He wanted to be here, signed a nearly hundred million dollar deal. It's become a destination for Brendan Donovan that's loved every aspect of it and the team and the leadership and the resources and the commitment and all of it. And now a first round pick that, as you said, has flown through the system in his right on the precipice of the big leagues and is smelling it. Yeah, he decides I want to I want to I want to buy into this thing too. Well, and this is not him on this deal necessarily, Brock, but this was Colt Emerson during spring training. And I think it just shows another part of the reason why they wanted to get a deal done like this with him. I just I have a love for the game that that is just I don't know how to describe. I just love the game so much and I love every aspect and coming out here and being able to practice my craft has just been amazing. And and I can't wait to do it for longer. You know, I mean, now assuming he's he's that that's accurate. If you were looking for one thing that you would say that Julio, Cal, Donovan, Naylor, all have in common, isn't it that these guys that they've signed up to these long deals, isn't it just a true love of the game? Yeah, and everybody loves to say, oh, I love to play. I love the game. And you know what I like to say? Show me show me discipline. Show me how dedicated you are. Show me how much you're willing to work towards your craft and all those guys. Check that box significantly, too. Here's the second thing you need to know. So look in by Blackbird. Here we go. The stretch of the right handers to one to Cal. Swing and a shot over the back at first fair ball. The Mariners win it. Here comes Leo Rivas to score. Cal Raleigh with a walk off single and the Mariners beat the Yankees tonight. Two to one in the bottom of the ninth inning. Cal Raleigh with a run batted in a shot over the back at first down the right field line. And the Mariners with their first walk off win of the 2026 season. And the big dumper comes through on the clutch. For those wondering, Randy Rosarana was out there celebrating in high five in Cal. Got text about that earlier this morning. Somebody wanted us to know. Just go through that inning for a moment, right? Starts off with a ground ball single for Leo Rivas. Not great defense. Is that Bellinger at first base at that point? Not a. Who was a first base? Oh, it's probably Ben. Yeah, looks like his name. Not a great defender. Yeah, not a great defender. Yeah. And and it's hard enough to get a pie. Absolutely. And then credit to, you know, the end up with an out will pop up from Cole Young, who had had a really good day up until that point. OK, fine. But then Don, I thought I had a great at bat and driving it not just up the middle, but to the right side of second base, allowing Rivas, who's a good athlete to scamper over to third. And now you've got them in a jam because it's Cal and then Julio with a man on third already. Yeah, I think they probably should have walked Cal to get to Julio. But I think I really don't know if I'm Eric. He didn't bring the infield in. He tried to go for a double play ball. And I think that you get a much better chance of that with Cal than you do with Julio. So I guess I understand what he's doing there. And the previous at bat, Cal got three swings and misses with a runner third and less than two outs, right? And he's been in a real rut and real struggle. And you hope to see from a mirror perspective, that one go through the net and that does nothing. And I thought, you know, pretty good move by Dan to pinch hit when he hit him then to give him an opportunity. It doesn't happen then. And then by good fortune, he comes around a second time runner on third, less than two outs and Cal does what Cal often does. He delivers when it matters. All right. One more, two more rather with the Yankees. They go tonight. Logan Gilbert against Max Fried in a battle of two guys that started on opening day. Here's the third day you need to know. Well, I'm definitely looking forward to Brock, what we are all going to get an opportunity to see. This summer. You'll hear this theme song with shots of the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. As the Seahawks are going to be on hard knocks. Of all the things that the Colt Emerson story surprised me, this story shocked me when Moore sent it over last night. Yeah, wait, it's taken forever to get to the best part of the song. It's the best part. Yeah, is this like an older? No, this is what I've got here. Hang on. Pause that. I feel like that's not what they play right now. Yeah, it's here. Yes. Coming up out of the water. The world champions. Another Lombardi trophy that Chase begins. Hurt yourself there. Oh, J.S.S. Saint-Garne Cooper, Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones. You think I, J. Barnard in the barn yard. Me, E.K. and Mo Kelly end up becoming like the stars of this thing. For all of the all of the credit those guys get behind the scenes. Do you think this is their big moment? How about Sammy? How about Sammy? Or Hamston? Maybe. Sammy going to have an opportunity. We'll see. I have a diamond. They might be a lot of shadow boxing. I hope we get a whole like segment on Dave Pearson where we go to his house. How about NASA? How about all those behind the scenes? Oh, my gosh. NASA's going to be a star. I didn't even think about that. You're right. You know what is a shame is that Matt Stratts-Johnson doesn't work there anymore because when the producers discovered that weirdo, think about where that could have gone. How about Stacey and Bump, the tables out there set up, watching every practice around. We're going to be nowhere to be found. We're just here. I'm going to try to be so over the top when I hand that. You know, J's going to find his way onto it. Obviously. He's probably already plotting. Oh, my God. She's going to bring his videographer out there with him to chronicle his life and trying to be on hard knocks. That's everything you need to know. Crack and play tonight, by the way, they're in Edmonton. Ten games left to play there. OK. Johnny Schneider, Trent Kirschner, the whole crew. Yeah. Behind the scenes. Good. Let me get it. It is. We're going to get like Mike McDonald's wife and kid. Are we going to get Tracy Schneider, who's great? Like, I mean, like there's so many characters in and around that building. It should be fascinating. I'm definitely I'm definitely looking forward to it. That's for sure. I, you know, I've sort of given up on hard knocks because it's just I don't know, like at some point, it's just kind of been the same thing over and over again. It's not my team, but I'm ready for it to be my team. The only one I watched really was the Giants one for the offseason, but they never do that again, because it's the most embarrassing thing we've ever seen. All right. I was going to do answer the question, Jerk Brock, but let's do answer the question. Jerk, I would love to do that. You want to? I'm a part of the show. I would like to do that. Are you? That means, yeah, you got to text questions now. So I'll curate them. You have to do it right now. Like right now. You can't wait to eight, six, six, nine, seven, nine, three, seven, seven, six, eight, six, six, nine, seven, nine, three, seven, seven, six. We will do it at nine forty five. But you got to you got to send in questions right now. Any question on any subject. And I'll put that together here in our break. Yes. What else? I want to play that Mike McDonald cut talking about next season. Okay. And the thoughtfulness behind some of that, because that will be different for old hard knocks. All right. So we'll do all of that next. Brock, I think we went, bro. Thank you, Jeff. Seattle Sports on seven ten. Highlights don't win games. The full box score does. I'm Brock cured and most business leaders aren't short on data. They're short on clarity. Numbers are scattered across ERP, CRM and spreadsheets, making decisions reactive instead of confident. And that's not how great businesses are built. 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So all right. So some stuff to think about as we get ready for our regular version on Thursday. Sounds like we will chat with Robert Murray tomorrow. He broke the story on Cold Emerson and that'll be 7 30 at 8 30 on Thursday will have Daniel Jeremiah for the first of six appearances leading up to and immediately after the draft. Generally, they'll be on Wednesdays, but we had to move some things around. So we can do that tomorrow. I'm sorry, on Thursday with with with DJ, but looking forward to those as we start getting ready for the draft. All of the league is at the owners meetings this week. Brock Brady Henderson is down there reporting and some others. And we saw Mike McDonald and John Schneider both meet with the media and talk a little bit. I mean, not great. It's not quite as like a whole press conference thing, but they sit at a table and chat a little bit. Here was Mike. This is thanks to Bob Condota's sound. I think the focus is like, let's double down back on the process. So we want to get steps on where we need to go. I remember having the conversations really on that. Sure. You guys like, hey, what in order for us to be, you know, have those conversations about the vision and playoff and things we have to become a championship team. Oh, we're a new team. We have to kind of re become the team that we're kind of like guessing to be without doing to appreciate a lot of new pieces. And I think that's where the focus is. I I I've grown to so appreciate so much of that messaging sulk because kind of like Pete Carroll, it's not just slogans. It's not just words. They have power. And then when you actually live it out and the genesis of that was, hey, you know, how are you going to go about defending your championship? And like, that's not the way we that's just not even, you know, when we would ask Pete questions and he'd be like, what are you even talking about? Like, we don't even ever approach it that way. You're going to have Earl Thomas return punts. What if he gets hurt? Like, we don't worry. We don't even think about that. Like we're in our lane. We've, you know, and we really have conviction about it. And, you know, I think that's why there is such a tremendous amount of buy-in. Cause it's not just, hey, let's, let's throw these things out there. Let's, let's say these things. Let's, let's put these things on the wall here. Like they live it. They breathe it. They eat it. They devour it. And hard knocks is going to get a chance to, I think, see a lot of it and learn a bunch of it. I think there will be a fine line. Cause I think John Schneider was in that peak Carol camp of, I don't know how much of the secret sauce behind the walls. We really want to give away, you know, and how much we want others to see. And that will be, I think, a line to walk through this hard knocks because, you know what hard knocks wants? I want this drama. I want drama, but I want this thoughtfulness. I want this like lived out. I want you, you know, you do it a little differently because you're actually walking all of this talk and let's put this to this. And, Hey man, these are your things that are on the wall here. And here's how you live it. And I think there will be a little bit of a, a little bit of a, maybe a palm up seriously from the Seahawk side that does get to control what exactly in the editing of that and what goes out. Cause I don't know if they want all their secret sauce totally out. There's not a lot of sound Brock from the conversations for Schneider and McDonald, but, but thanks to Seahawks.com. They wrote some of it up. So let me read you a few of them and get some reaction here. Here's Schneider on returning the entire offensive line. It's huge. You look at continuity. It's so hard to have that continuity these days. We had it in Green Bay and those guys that were together for like eight years to have that continuity is rare. Cosine and John Benton comes back and then what is it? 14 guys. So you're not even talking about your five starters. It's everybody. It's everybody. I was even looking at some training the other day, like last week of who was the guy that started the one game, Amari Kite. No, is that right? Yep. Is that right? Yeah. I could hardly even know his name. Yes. And he's back and he's rehabbing along with everybody else. So to not only get your five back or your eight back or your 10 back, but to get all 14 back on top of your Olaan coach, kind of the, you know, the brain trust behind all that big deal, man, big deal. Even some little ones. D'Anthony Bell is not a name we talk about a lot, but I think this is somewhat interesting from a what they value standpoint. This is Mike McDonald saying that the Panthers quote kind of stole safety. D'Anthony Bell from them last year. He's a guy that gives us safety flexibility, but also some big nickel flex as a backup to Nickyman worry. So that's going to be something we want to make sure that if Nick can't find his helmet for a series or two, we can still go in and operate our defense. I think it's interesting more just on how important and valuable Nickyman worry is and how they'd like to be able to replicate it if he gets hurt. Yep. That's that's right. And he was a guy signed off the practice squad and signed to the other teams roster and they did that. And he's also an excellent special teamer to go along with every other special teamer they re signed and take care of. Quite a few picks in training camp. Yeah. He was definitely one of those guys. Mike McDonald here on Jalen Milrow. Remember Jalen Milrow. He was a big conversation after they drafted him and throughout training camp and then not so much once the season got going and he had a couple of tough fumbles. I believe he could have last year. It's the way things shook out. It was best for the team for him not to be active on game day and have a larger role, but plenty of ability to do so throughout the year. I was really excited about his development. I know he's going to work his tail off. What do you think happens with Jalen Milrow? Yeah, that I think there's a couple of things involved there. And this goes back to our JP conversation earlier of like, you know, eventually kind of time plays some of these things out. And when they went into last offseason salt, the first offseason with a new staff, a new quarterback, all these new pieces. I don't think they knew that AJ Barnard in the barnyard in the barnyard push would be as unbelievably efficient. Well, they missed one time all season long. It was it. And, you know, I mean, that really took a life of its own and became a really dominant short yardage piece. I think there were elements in April and May that were like, Hey, man, let's let's get this guy in here. It's an unbelievable runner. And maybe he can do some of this push push with his great strength. And then the third preseason game happened and it's sped up on him. Right. I mean, it was just too much kind of fumbled and stumbled a little bit in Green Bay. And it just was like, yep, let's slow it. And then, as you mentioned, even what, the first game or so or a couple of games. I think there were two fumbles earlier. Just that broke clean. Just yep. Yep. Little overwhelming. And by the way, maybe that would have worked better, worked better for him if he had been playing, like if he came in for a series at quarterback or two. Seren like it would. But coming in for a down, it really seemed to mess him up and mess them up. And, and you know what? It's such a small thing. But kudos to Mike McDonald and the rest of the staff for being like, look, that's not working. Let's stop doing that. We tried it. We there was a there was an opportunity here to get a talented athletic guy on the field and try to take advantage of some unique skill sets. Mm hmm. But it didn't work. So let's move on. Mm hmm. And I thought that was that was really well done. That was pretty smart thing that they did. But what happens best case scenario, he has an amazing preseason. He's wonderful in all the OTAs. He continues to develop. He goes in these preseason games and he plays absolutely lights out and, you know, I don't know if a trade is in order necessarily for this off season or whatever, but the following year. Yeah. Or maybe he evolves and Drew locks down on his two year deal and he really feel great about having Jalen there and, and yeah. So time will work a lot of that out, but he does need to continue to develop. No question on Riley Mills. You remember the sack, obviously, and what he did in the Super Bowl. I don't think everybody else saw the things that we saw from him on a day to day basis. I think that's why the guys are so excited for him to make the play finally in the Super Bowl. Just find a sweet spot on his role and where he's going to go. But the sky's the limit. Yep. If Riley Mills is a dude, that kind of changes things up front, doesn't it? Do you think? Yeah. I do. Kind of makes you feel maybe a little better about the age and stage that Leonard Williams is at. And Leonard will be back this year. But how much more, you know, I think Leonard's best, best football is more in the rear view mirror. I think you could still play great and be a difference maker, but it would kind of ease some of that transition. Would Jaren Reed eventually as well? And, you know, like this is why draft, develop, trade, why those things. And when you can draft your own, develop your own, and they're a fifth rounder and they're a fourth rounder and they're cost controlled. That helps offset salt, the 200 million you gave to JSN and you gave to Rashid Shakir. That's kind of how the checks and balances all got to work. Yeah. You've got to find offsets to it. And it's why I was thinking more about your, your thought earlier this morning, Brock, about, you know, maybe trading up in this year's draft or even trading back in this year's draft. Mm hmm. I'm not really that into either idea. I'm not saying that, like, there aren't scenarios in which it works. And obviously, I don't know all of the players in great detail the way you do or the way DJ will. And even as much as I will in a few weeks by the time we get to the draft. But I'm just, I'm looking at what they're doing. They're spending a lot of money on these guys on the outside and they're going to end up spending even more on Devon witherspoon. And those things make me nervous. I think you can do it. But one of the things it kind of mandates is that you get a bunch of hits in the draft. And if this year's draft stinks and next year's draft is great, I want to see as many of those 12 picks next year as possible. You're putting a lot of pressure on next year's draft. But that's when you really need those players to start hitting. So I really don't want to see them trade anything from next year to help them this year. I really don't. Well, you know what else you need? You know, you need the Drake Thomas is the undrafted free agent, the Doug Baldwin. You need those guys to develop. And that is an O tool. That is a sheriff. That is those guys that with a season under their belt, you expect a whole bunch more for and from 2026. All right. Some fun Seahawks conversation, a day of Mariner conversation, much of it centered around the new deal for Colt. Emerson will talk more to Robert Murray who broke the story about that tomorrow morning at 7 30. Bump and Stacy will be all over it right now, though. We're just going to answer your dumb questions. This is Brock and socks. Answer the question, jerk. He's asking questions. Come on, I'll answer them. Come on, I'm here. I'm going to answer your questions. Dang it. That's my question. The question, jerk. Well, don't just stand there. Answer the question, jerk. Are a lot of behind the scenes questions today. People have behind the scenes questions. Those are my kind of questions like this one. Jerks, can you not increase the font size to 200 percent on the text toy? Or is there another reason? Salc has to piece things into word. No, you can increase the font. I've done that. It's more because when you like, I want to I want to choose the best questions and the text machine keeps scrolling. So once the more texts come in, the texts, you know, all down lower and lower, they scroll lower. So if I put them in Word document or in this case, a notepad document, because for whatever reason, this computer isn't a word on it, then I can, you know, read them. That's all. OK. Thanks for the clarification. No problem. I was at the Mariner game on Sunday and my daughter asked why the Mariner moose doesn't have a tail. Hey, Brocker, Salc, do you think Mortimer should have a tail? I don't know whether he needs a tail. Does he think the moose is just fine? He's been doing just fine. I would think it'd be hard to have a tail as a mascot. You think so? Seems like something that could get stepped on. You're walking around. You're up on top of the dugout where the moose likes to go. I got the ground, but yeah, but it's just I feel like it would awkwardly balance you. And it's not like the moose is doing backflips and anything to crazy. It's true. That's fair. I don't think the most needs a tail. No. Who was at the gorilla, the Phoenix Suns gorilla that was just a. Well, I think a jump out of the gym. Yeah. Brock, how was your, how was your stretch this morning? Decent. It was better yesterday. Yeah. You getting into the stretching? Yeah. It's good for you, Sal. I'm sure. Deep knee bends. Sure. Deep lunges with rotational spinal. Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun. All right. Answer the question, Jer. Coach Brock, it's rivalry week for our high school baseball team. Winner will most likely win the league. Does coach Brock build that up? Or is he Mike McDonald? We don't really care. It's just about us go one and out. It's a great question. I know. I think the rivalry, especially if it's a strong one. I mean, if we're talking hope we am Aberdeen, right? If we're talking peninsula, legic harbor, we're talking Rogers, Pialup. It just goes without saying. Don't need to speak to those kind of rubber. You just know them. You feel them in your core. I think you have to speak about it. But do I like a good pregame? Oh, well, I have. We'll ever forget my keywords pregame with the Rams. What Vikings do now? I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that. I think that you're in high school. Build it up, man. Rivalry is your phone. Like it's a fun opportunity to build that thing up, especially if they're all talking about it. They all know it. So I'm looking at all these pictures of Moose, because people are saying Moose don't have tails. They have like kind of little mini tail kind of like a little appendage. Yeah, it's like a little cropped thing. Almost. They're not. They're not. It's not like a long dangly tail for sure. I don't know if I'd call that a tail or not. Let me take a look. Let me be the ultimate voice for you. I mean, if you just search it, it says, yes, Moose have tails, but they're very small, short and inconspicuous. Yeah. Yeah. Usually about two to four inches. They are inconspicuous. You're right. Maybe the Moose actually has a tail. It's just inconspicuous. Yep. I'm looking at it. I see a little tail. Little, but it's not like a whole. It's not like a, you know what they call it? They call it a stumpy tail. Yeah. And they're vestigial, meaning they're too small for functionalities, such as swatting insects. That's too bad. Somebody should get the Moose a more user friendly, useful. More pronounced. Yeah. Something, a tail that he could really, you know, use. Because I really enjoy when horses lift their tails. Do you? No. Poor, poor Gertie. Frenchies don't really have tails. So when she tries to wag her tail, she just shakes her whole body. It's very sad. Oh, it's great. You don't talk about Gertie as much. Oh, she's great. She's pretty funny. She likes to grow. We met a dog. I'll tell you, it's not a Gertie story, but I was telling more. We met a dog up in Canada that was a working dog, working golden retrievers, like a service dog. But we got to see it right when it took its vest off, when it got done with work. Oh my God. It was so happy. Jumping around and lying on the ground, like arms and legs flying and paws everywhere. This dog had a. I think that's how it works for service dogs. Absolutely. What's her work is done? And is this party? Yeah, they're dogs. Yeah, they can only work for like a certain amount of time and then they get time off to go be dogs. And so this dog had like a stuffed squirrel that it had in its mouth that I'd like to walk around with, which Gertie likes to do too. She's got her squid and her octopus and her pumpkin that she likes to carry around and show to people. But this dog, when it puts its squirrel in its mouth, sings. But it only sings when the squirrel's in its mouth. Yeah, pretty hilarious things. It was awesome. Jerks on a scale of one to Kyle Tucker, how excited is Lyle about the Colt Emerson signing today? Six. Pretty excited. All right. It's a good deal. I'm happy about it. Yeah. It's not Kyle Tucker. Doesn't it make you even more excited to see him finally play at the big league level though? Like they thought enough of this kid that they just gave him a hundred million dollars. Like, yeah, I want to see him because Lyle and I see everything on socials together. What am I seeing with Kyle Tucker's helmet? Is there something? What am I missing? It's not his helmet. What is it? It's his tail. Oh. Stumpy little tail. I think people are making reference to his facial structure. Some people have said a thing or two about it. I don't know. Is it like they call him ugly? I don't even know what people are getting at. No. All right. It's mean spirited. Did you all not stand for it? Yeah. Lyle will not have this Kyle Tucker slaps. Absolutely not. All right. Nope. Who's more likely to be a Mariner next season? Randy, JP or Kirby? Well, I'd say Kirby. Kirby. Because both Randy and JP are free agents at the end of the year. Kirby's under contract. Yep. Oh, it's pretty easy. Always wondered, Salk, what time do you go to bed and what time do you have to wake up and how do you fit watching the Mariners game into all of that? Thanks for all you do. You're welcome. Thank you for thinking of me. I generally go to bed later than I should. It's probably 10 30 to 11 11 30. It's when I fall asleep and then I wake up at 4 30. So it's actually pretty easy. I nap and then I watch the Mariners game. Right. And then you go to bed from 11 a.m. to sometimes 3 30 p.m. That's too much. No, it's like noon to 3 30. It's not four and a half hours. It's like three and a half hours. But I set the alarm yesterday for like two 30 to wake up and go to the Mariner. Mariner. I almost didn't make it, man. I was like dragging myself out of off the couch. It took like an extra half hour. I do like a good nap. All right. What is the superior cone waffle cake or sugar? I mean, let's be clear. The cake cone is disgusting. My wife is the only person in the world who likes that thing. It is nasty. Cake cones are the worst. What is a cake? What is a cake? It's that piece of styrofoam that is round and they they call it a cone, but it's basically styrofoam. Oh, that's terrible. The little short stubby cone. It looks like a moose's tail. That thing is worthless. Throw it out. That thing is free for a reason. Okay. Sugar cone is that sugar cones are good, but they're just cheap versions of waffle cones. Yeah. Waffle cone is there's a reason they charge you like $4 extra for a waffle cone. It's that good. Yeah, it kind of adds a texture you need. Do you like when the waffle cone has like some chocolate or dipped like it's dipped in something or, you know, yeah, I like that. Or chocolate at the bottom of the cone. Oh, that's good too. Yes. Get a little Oreo dipped around there. I'll take that. Went to Dairy Queen this week and they had Dairy Queen up at the mall up there. It is just so hard to say no to a Dairy Queen Blizzard, man. They are so good. They're so good. But I tried to do something new. I went and got a, you had a Choco Strawberry or something. So it was like strawberry Blizzard with a little bit of chocolate in it. It was actually really good. But afterwards, when I went back for my next one, I was like, okay, the next day, not the not later that day, two days later, I was like, you know, Reese's. Yeah, Reese's with a banana. Yeah. And the guy had never heard of it. He'd never thought of putting a banana in with the Reese's. Was that big Canada? Yeah. And he was like, I think I'm going to have to try that. I was like, dude, you can't beat it. It is. It is the best way to do a Blizzard. You ever do that, Lyle? I don't think so. I think I just usually get the normal Reese's Blizzard back when I get on. Which are great. Don't get me wrong. I mean, that is a go to statement. This is the last time you had a Reese's Blizzard, Lyle. Ten years ago. Something like that. I mean, I get Reese's or Oreo, but Reese's is better than Oreo. I got to live a little, but you should next time you do it. It says Lee tells me it's healthy because it's a bit. He's got a banana. I haven't all this talk is making me miss eating ice cream cones, but it's been a long time. All right. We got to go. Bump and Stacy up next. More conversation. I'm sure about Colt Emerson and the walkoff Mariner win last night. We'll catch you guys tomorrow morning. 8am until then Brock. They hey, you know where it is. So it gets into bar. Sure. See everybody. Yard. This is a job.