"Olivia Colman"

Good morning, Jason. Good morning to you. Or afternoon or wherever our listeners are. Wherever we find you, sure. Does anybody have big plans today at all for anything? I mean, I'm doing a pretty smoking podcast in the next couple of minutes. It's called Smartless. Oh. Cue the music. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. Smart. How's Seattle? Will, how's Seattle? I'm in Seattle. I'm visiting family or? I'm doing a little thing tonight with our friend Ed Vetter tonight. We're just doing a little. Is it Ed now? He's just growing up a little bit. Eddie and I are doing a little thing tonight. He's going to perform. He claims that I might help him sing a song on stage. That's not going to happen. Because he's heard your impression of him? No, he hasn't yet. And I plan on doing it. But he said, he was like, hey, do you want to, you know, what song do you want to hear? I was like, well, what song do you not want to play? And he was like, well, anything I don't know. And I was like, well, I don't know what you don't know. And he goes, well, you get up here and you'll sing. And I was like, no, Eddie, nobody wants to hear me sing. You have to do it. Unless it's low. Riesler. You know what? I couldn't love him more. He's up on that level of those dudes that I just absolutely adore. Include him. I include our friend, William Pitt and William Bradley Pitt in that. Whom I just adore. I just have like massive man crush. He's got the middle name down and everything. Do you know a sign? I think it's exit. Meaning get out of my face. They don't want me around, but that's okay. Wait, do you remember when he was on and then afterwards he sent us all ukuleles or something? Remember that? Yeah, he did. I know. Yeah, so nice. He's such a class act. He's such a great dude. And anyway, so yeah, that's why I'm up here. I'm doing this thing tonight with him, which is, which is going to be fun. I got my, my buddy, Kutch is coming in from Calgary because he's such a fan. So I said, why don't you come and join? You can hang out. What's a kutch? My buddy, Dave McCutcheon is one of my oldest friends. I cut myself. His name is Kutch. Oh, hey, Kutch. Yeah, how's it going? Is he a dirty flames fan? Well, no, he's from Calgary, but originally from Kenora, Ontario. Oh, so that makes him a dirty leaf fan. Yeah, we got room for the leaf. So we got room for the leaf. We got room for the leaf. It's a really catchy nickname. You know what, Sean? Wait until the guest gets it here. Save some of that. Anyway, so I'm up here. JB, what are we going to see? Are we going to see you on the East Coast? Are you going to come to London to see Sean's play? That's the big question. Of course I am. Yeah, isn't that nice? Oh, I didn't know that. Are they coming to stay with you guys? We're staying with you for like three or four days. Aren't we, Seanie? Yeah, yeah, it's going to be great. Oh, that's fun. It's going to be super fun. So, yeah, you know, go ahead, Willie. You go. No, just, Jason reminded me of staying with me in the house. I was talking to a friend that said, we were talking about like grocery shopping and what to get. And he's like, I go, where can I get some good milk? And he's like, cow. And I was like, yeah, cow's milk. Did we talk about this? And I was like, it just sounded gross when he said it because I forgot that, you know, that's where like that milk comes out of a tea. Like, I know now he meant like almond milk, oat milk. I was like, because I didn't think there was any other milk. Anyway, let's just back. Let's go to the very, very beginning of the great story. I want where, when's the last, wait, Will, I'll just ask you, Will, when's the last time you approached somebody and asked them where you could get some good milk? Right? That was the question. Not milk, just general, but this is somebody you know, not a stranger, right? This is correct. Because, because, What is the context of like where you guys mid conversation or is it? No, I was like, no, I was talking about, because I'm like, where do we go grocery shopping? Where's the new latest in London because I don't know what the, if they have like American stuff, like what's the equivalent. And you hear a good milk, sorry to find. Well, I didn't know. Yes, I want really good nonfat milk. Geez. Anyway, let's get to the gas. No, we're not getting there. We're going to stay here for a minute until we knock it out of you. Sean, you asked somebody, where in London you could get good milk to find some good nonfat cow milk. Honestly, and I love you and I know a lot of people here, but honestly, what the fuck are you talking about? I drink it every day because I don't, I don't really drink soda anymore. I tell you what, it's a good segue because our guests might be able to help you locate some good milk in England. When it comes to finding good teats. Yeah, she, well, she, she lives, yeah, take that back. You only want to take it back also because she's a really classy guest. You're really going to want to take it back. You put me up to that. She's a, it's a phenomenal guest that we have today and, and she's, she hails from London. She lives in London. She's an Academy Award winner, three nominations, three time Golden Globe winner, seven nominations, taking home two Emmys out of five nominations. You might remember her from her turn in confetti or as the hairdresser in I could Never Be Your Woman. He's trying to throw us in. Or even as Ian's mother in 2005's One Day, I remember her from one of my all time favorite TV shows, Broadchurch films like The Father for which she was nominated for Academy Award. And of course the favorite for which she won an Academy Award. She has a new film called The Roses Witchy Coast. Benedict Cumberbatch comes out on 29th. Give it up for a huge welcome. Oh my God. This is a real pleasure. This is a real treat. This is a real pleasure. Hi guys. Hello, good morning. Hello. Hello. I'm your Coleman. Oh, it's so nice to be here. Look how bright and cheery you are. I know. It's very sunny here. This is this really classing up Will's List. Will's List was really starting to sink a little bit. Was it? Yeah. But you really buoyed it. I needed to turn around. And thanks for the teets comment. Yeah. Jason, that's great. Jason, sure. Well. I retract that with all apologies. But do you know where to find good nonfat milk there? I know some excellent teets in London. Really well. Yeah. Don't you worry. Good. Are you in London right now? No. I'm out in the countryside in the states. Okay, great. Lovely. Yeah. Really nice. In my shit. But you do live in England full time. I do, yes. Lucky. Yeah. Do you like it? I love it. I love it. Thanks. It's very nice. Yes, it's very lovely. JBD, do you ever consider getting your UK passport? I haven't. Should I or things? Why, what have you heard about America? Is something? No, all good things, all good things. No, okay, good. Don't look up the window. Don't look up the window. Just look up the window. I don't get much here in the hostage cell. Yes, we're all big fans. We all love England. We spent time there. Sean's on his way there in a couple of days. Yeah, I heard. For a while. I'm going to come and see you. You should. I would love it. This guy can play piano, watch out, get ready to be impressed. So Olivia Coleman, you know, it's funny. I went through your awards that you've won in nominations. You've been nominated for like, I think it was like 156 international acting awards and you've won like 65. Did you know this? I didn't know that. Congratulations, you won. Thanks. But what staggering is, is the breadth of your work, and by that I mean, not just the actual amount, but the actual, you know, you've done comedy, you've done drama and everything in between. And it's really remarkable how you're able to sort of go back and forth between the two. So my first question to you is, do you at your heart consider yourself to be a comedic actor? Do you consider yourself to be a dramatic actor or none of the above? A little bit of all of it. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's funny talking to all of you guys about it because you all, you know, you all know. My first work was in comedy and I loved it. And sometimes you just need someone to take a punt to give you a chance to do the other thing. Right, right, right. Comedy has my heart, because that's where I, you know, got work. But I always wanted to do something dramatic and I was so pleased with something. What was that punt? What was that punt you're talking about? What was the first? It was, Paddy Considine gave me the chance to do a film called Taranasaur. Sure, yeah. It started as a short film and then he decided he wanted to know what happened to these characters and made it a longer film. That was, what was that? There was a, I want to say 20 years ago, longer. Yeah, I think we filmed it in 2011. Okay. 2011, and it was a huge, and it was like a big Sundance hit, wasn't it? It was a huge, I mean, it was like, it made a lot of waves. It was a, you know, you were... And it sort of, at the time, yeah, Sundance loved it, which makes me love Sundance very much. Yeah. And then, and then it sort of built as the years went by. So now, film lovers have seen it, but at the time it was quite a slow burn, I think. But you didn't just get incredible 20 years ago. I, you know, like I imagined that there's been a real, you're just, you're such a special magical actor. I mean, that is why you can do comedy and drama. So well, it's because it doesn't, it doesn't ever seem like you're asking for a laugh. You're never doing a comedy. You're playing a character that is eccentric or whatever, such that it makes us all sort of giggle and then the same for drama. So when... This is nice, I'm loving this. Well, you won't like this question. I'm very shallow, it's great. You know, you know, like, when did you realize that you were special? And I know that that takes admitting that you think that you don't suck, but you're allowed to admit that you don't suck. And when did it start? Was it, was it, was it acting school? Did somebody tell you you're great? Or did you see yourself do something and go, oh, that works for you? I can do this. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, do you all remember the moment when you went, okay, don't suck? Yeah, I guess I don't. Wait, Sean, you had a moment where you thought you didn't suck? Giggle Giggle Giggle Many of them. I'm like, oh my God. No, my first one was, my first one was really just really quick and then maybe it'll turn to me. Great to have you on the show, Sean. Thank you so much. You're welcome. No, I remember like, you know, the pilot of this show, I did Will and Grace for many, many years. And yeah. We love this show. It's so complicated. Giggle Giggle It's actually not the opposite of complicated. She's gay, she's gay, they are gay. Giggle Wait, wait, wait, wait. Was the pilot, Seany? It was the pilot that I didn't really, I'd never done a TV show. So it was like a pilot. And I walked in not knowing how cameras were anything, right? And I walked in and I got a laugh on just like some benign line. Like, hey Will, can I borrow your blank? I don't know what it was. And people laughed. In my head, I'm like, why are they laughing? I just said something. And then at the end of the pilot that night, this first assistant director came up to me and she was like, you're great, you're amazing. I'm like, really? Like I didn't understand any of it. It does take hearing it from the outside, doesn't it? I mean, Olivia, was there a moment there where somebody, I mean, sometimes it's a parent, you know, that goes, hey, you've done good or a teacher or was it, do you remember, was there a moment like that? Yeah, maybe, I did my first ever school play when I was 16. And that's the first time I'd done any acting. And yeah, I've got to say I really enjoyed afterwards, people clapping, that was brilliant. Yeah, at that age too. That's such a tricky age. You're sort of, you're just coming on. Oh, so shit it's everything. So rubbish. Finally thought, oh, and my mom and dad, who just couldn't really speak afterwards went, oh, fuck. Yeah. And I go, oh, I think that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. I know, that's interesting. I know it's very English to not want to, you know, sort of pat yourself on the back and I get it, but there are those moments that you have, there's undeniable where you go like, yeah, okay. I was kind of, JB, I remember when we were doing Arrested Development 20 years ago, over 20 years ago. And remember that there was a guy, one of the first editors, and I remember you and I were walking and he came down the stairs, you and I were on the old Culver Lot. And he said, do you remember that guy? And he came over and he goes, guys, I've been cutting the show and had it air. We'd only made like three episodes. And he was like, guys, the show is really funny. We're like, really? I know you never know. We had no idea because we were in a vacuum. And he's like, that's really good. I remember doing a 12th night, the Shakespeare play 12th night in high school. Olivia, we're going to be to you in one second. Yeah, no, I would, because I want to know about your high school experience, the play that you said you had a response to. And I didn't know what, I didn't understand what I was saying. It shakes literally Shakespeare. And I got a laugh on some, I'm like, why are they laughing? And I was 16 years old, same thing. But what was yours? Oh, the prime of Miss Jean Brody. Which I obviously didn't have a clue what it meant at the time. And looking back now, it was all sort of about fascism. So at that age, that's the age where you start to think about college, right? And picking a career. And so it was kind of timely that you kind of got this pad on the back. And did you then, at that moment, choose, this is the direction I'm going to go? Well, I sort of, I never really admitted it to anyone out loud. But in my head, I thought, I wonder if I'm allowed to be an actor. Because I didn't come from that. So I didn't know. A loud. Yeah. And so I didn't tell, I went off to teacher training college. And which I left after a term and then worked as a cleaner for a long time. And still sort of secretly thinking, I really want to try the acting thing. Yeah. What did you teach in the training? But you went to Bristol, sorry, you went to Old Vic Theatre School though, yeah? Bristol Old Vic afterwards, yes. So, yes. I went to the teacher training college where I met my husband who was at the university. And we were 20, we were doing a play then. And I walked into the rehearsal room and saw him and got thunderbolts. And then we did a play together. And he was doing law, but was sort of didn't really like it. And then I said, run away with me and we'll go and be artists and join the circus. And so he did. It was nice. He finished his degree because he's no proper clever. And then what was that first, what was that first job or moment where you go, okay, this is something I think I'm gonna be able to do. And then I got a job just before my last term, which was a sketch show. And I don't think it was particularly great. I wasn't very particularly good at it. But the fact that I'd got a job, I was so excited. And then I felt like I'd earned some money and I could actually put actor on my passport. Yeah, that's great. And then I got a job. I was a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit and just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just just kind of just kind of just kind of just kind of just Oh, it's so good. Well, that was Robin David, who I'd met when I was, when I'd left my teacher training college, Rob Webb, David Mitchell. Yeah. They had, you know, spent the interim time writing and working hard. And then they met Sam and Jesse who wrote, Peepshow, Sam Bain, Jesse Armstrong. And, Yeah. And they said, we need a woman. And they went, oh, our mate, Collie, we could try her. And, and it was great. And I went, I was called into the BBC for an audition. I was so excited and I couldn't work out why. And, Excited, not nervous. And they'd also, yeah, so nervous. Yeah, so nervous. And they'd also got me in for the sketch show, which was. Did you, did you, did that, it must have helped sort of shape your, your sort of your comedic point of view a little bit, working on that show with those guys. Yeah. And I mean, I couldn't write for shit. If her gun was to my head, I couldn't write anything funny, but they can. And so they sort of make it easy to say their words. And, you know, you appear to be funny, which was nice. I would, I would, I would imagine working in, in that environment with those guys, you know, and, and, and you with your talent and, and, and working for the, I know it's not too embarrassing. We just, these are, these are just facts. Olivia, so you have to accept them. Okay. So we have to, but, but taking that, and I think working in that way with those guys who are so funny and you're so funny. And, and, and as you guys developed that show and worked on peep show over the years, wonder if that sort of that spontaneity and that, that ability to work in comedy helped you later on as you sort of gravitated towards more dramatic roles. Yeah, maybe. I think, and to know you, I don't know how you feel about it. You have to sort of be, have an enormous dollop of humility, I think, to be able to, for people to laugh at you. Yeah. And with you, I think. Yeah, you gotta really pull your pants down. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And some people aren't comfortable. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think some people aren't comfortable with it. And I think that helps with, you've got to show vulnerability in the drama side. And maybe, cause quite brave to, to show yourself, to be an idiot in front of people and for them to laugh. And to be broken. Yeah, it is. And to be broken, but also because as you know so much, there, you know, timing plays a big part of it in comedy, right? And so, so when you, and you really have to in comedy for the most, you really have to listen. I mean, if ever there was a discipline, you know, an area in our world that you have to listen is comedy because you have to, it's so important to be able to land stuff. And so that, if you bring that into dramatic work, you know, you are really listening and you really understand rhythm. There is a sort of almost a musicality to it, you know? Yeah, totally. You're explaining it really well. Yeah. Done. Yeah. First time. Thanks a lot. First time I've done it right. I'm always surprised that people are still shocked when people in comedy can do drama. It's like, oh my God, what? I know. It's like, well, what do you, where does it come from? It doesn't work the other way though, does it? Yeah. No, it doesn't. Yeah. Well, often it doesn't, yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously plenty can, but it is audio. It's easier to make the move from comedy to drama than the other way around. I think that it does have something to do with that, with that rhythm and that listening and all that stuff and being present. Like you're forced to, Oh, look, oh look, somebody's just delivering. So my husband's just brought me a massive gin and tonic. There we go. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's so nice. What is that? That time of the evening. It is massive. Hi. Sorry. That's Ed. I don't know. That's Ed the bartender. Thanks, Ed. Thanks, Ed. We'll be right back. And now back to the show. Didn't I just see a trailer for, there's a, you've got a hilarious comedy coming out. Oh, excellent segue. Yeah. But what is it? I want to say it's like, War of the Roses, yes? Yes. It was in my introduction, Jason. You see, you weren't present and listening. I was either. Maybe I was busy clapping. Too busy trying to guess this. Yeah. Wait, wait, is it War of the Roses? Yes. So, well, that was a jumping off point. Yes. So, yes, you know, Tony McNamara, amazing. Tony McNamara writer. He has loved War of the Roses as we all did and he's slightly changed it a bit. So it's called the Roses, but that was definitely a big influence. Gotcha, gotcha. Wow. Who's the fella? Benedict Cumberbatch. Oh, that's great. That part I remember. Yeah, remember? Yeah, something hearing about Cumberbatch in your... You know, and you know, you've probably heard this all the time. Americans, I think a lot of us were so, and are still enamored with British comedy, right? And the... That's nice. Even the most, even the most crass, vulgar, like sketch shows or comedy shows that come out of it, there's still like a sophistication to the crass, you know what I mean? There's still like a slickness to it. Sorry, I love you. He's getting to, he always gets to, he wants to know your views on Benny Hill. Go ahead, John. No, no, but there is, there is like, so who growing up made you go like, was there anybody you'd watched on the telly or the movies that you were like, oh, that's really interesting? Well, I think it works the other way too. I mean, we, I'm obsessed with American comedy and on channel four here every morning, we have Cheers and Frasier and King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond, all those lovely comedies that I remember. Any others or? No. No, no, no. No, no, no. Will and Grace. Oh, shoot. Only the good ones. Only the good ones. Yeah, but literally, and Friends and Arrested Development and, you know, and we are all, we can sort of quote most of, you know, all my friends, excuse me, Adore American Comedy and I find American comedy very sophisticated. It's so funny. It's so funny. We all sort of look longingly. I've always, my favorite film of all time is with Nell and I and I've said it a million times. Oh my God, yes. That's fantastic. And to me, it is the gold standard of, because it's not just a comedy, it's quite dramatic. Everything about it is so perfect and I just find it so hard to believe that somebody can make something like that here. It's hard to believe that I have still not seen it. I'm putting it right in your mouth right now. Say it again, Will. Oh, it's such a treat. I'm so jealous that you haven't seen it. I know, say it. What's the title again? Oh, Nell and I. With Nell and I. It's the most perfect film. Richard E. Grant, Bruce Robinson, wrote and directed it. Amazing. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Like with, like with a Nell, like with Nell. Oh God, this is so embarrassing. It's one word. It's one word. It's the guy's name. Oh, okay, well that's why I asked. It's his name. It's a fair question, Sean. I've got you. Thank you, thank you. You're welcome. I don't know, there's something, but there is like British humor tends to be to sort of lean back just a little bit and let you kind of discover it. Whereas I think we in America, along with everything, we kind of want to show it to you a little bit quicker than you, than you might see it. But you know, we're a little bit more earnest, a little louder, a little more obvious. I find is the difference. And I kind of like having to lean in to find it a little bit more. I love that the dryness and the no winking of British humor so much. I think that's lovely of you, but I do sort of feel that way about watching all of you perform. You know? Yeah, yeah, there is, there is, yeah. I wonder, you know, I listed off your credits and I'm such a fan of so many of these things. First of all, you know, Broadchurch. Again, that's what an example of a show that is like the gold standard to me. I mean, if every show could, for every once in a while, I look, you know, I go into one of my streaming services that I subscribe to and go like, is there, is there, is there a way, yeah, is there a way that there's a new series of Broadchurch and I've just missed it and now it's gonna be on and no, there's not. Because, but you've done so many things. And I think once in an interview, you said you don't really, that you're, you say that you're bad at choosing jobs, you just kind of do the next job that comes along that can't possibly be true. Well, I feel guilty saying no. Yeah. And I think in the early years, you know, not working very often was actually brilliant because it's made me very grateful for work. Yeah. And same, same, same, same. Yeah. And I think it's better that way round than doing really well straight away, I think. But you've had, you've, but you've had to sharpen your, your, your scissors a bit, right? Because I imagine you get a ton of offers and submissions and scripts to read and incoming calls because of all the obvious reasons. So you can't possibly say yes to everything. And so your, your picker does need to become somewhat refined. Yeah. And is there something that you really look for that, that starts to have you lean one particular way? Is it, is it character? Is it script? Is it director? Co-star location? Location. I don't know. Right, right near home. I'm getting slightly better at saying no, because I, I want to be at home a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Up until COVID, I had never been away from Ed for longer than two weeks. Yeah. Which in our world is quite unusual. Yeah. Yeah. We take jobs away from home and I made sure I got back. Yeah. Cause I get quite homesick. And you've got, and you've got a family. You've also managed to somehow have three kids in there as well. Yeah. That's cool. And they're really nice. I like them. Yeah. I bet. I bet. That's the best. Right. It is sort of, I was talking with a friend about this last night. You know, you could be a great parent, but it's still, you're just still crossing your fingers that you get good ones because it's not really in your control. You can move your kid just a little bit. Right. We've talked about it in the show before and this nature versus nurture. What's your experience been like with that? You've got a great sample. There were three. How you never get two of the same. Now you've got three there. Are they wildly different? They must be. Well, two of boys, one's a girl. Got it. That's a good start. So it's a bit of difference there. But also not really, you know. No? No. And I feel, when people talk about difference between genders, I sort of, I don't really see it between them. They all arrived nice. They were so nice when they turned up. Yeah. And they're all equally emotional and funny. How old are they? So nearly 20, nearly 18 and nearly 10. So there was a bit of a gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were home and dry and went back in and had another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good for you. Yeah, we are. So is that, sorry, Willie, is the eldest out of the house yet? Is the second eldest about to go out? Because I'm dealing with that in our house Emptiness thing, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, so our big one is in his second year of uni. Okay. And second one is, literally did his last A level today. So he's at the beach now with his friends. How'd it go? Celebrating. He said it was good. Yeah. Which is words that never came out of my mouth after an exam. And yeah, the eldest one, when he was about to go to uni, so he knew for a year, obviously, he was going to go to uni. And I pre-greaved and every time he walked past me, I'd burst into tears and I just imagined him going, whoosh, back to being a baby in my arms. And he was so sweet, he would just give me a cuddle. Just knew I needed it. And then my husband was going, it'll be great. You know, it's exciting. This is what you want for them. And then on the day that we were driving him to uni, our youngest came out of the gate and watched us drive down the road and just stood there waving and Ed burst into tears. And I went, are you fucking kidding? We've got five hours in the car. Yeah. We can't stop. Call it together. Yeah. You know, speaking of being a good mom, you and Heartstopper, like, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, like I wish my mom at the time she turned around was great when I came out. But that scene that they used in the promo of you listening to your son come out and your response and your reaction, that scene was so powerful. I'm like, it's just incredible. And I wish everybody's experience was like... Shonix, give me a little bit of context. What's the context? So Heartstopper was about a lot of things, but it was, Olivia played the mom of a kid who came out of the closet and his journey in high school and all of that stuff. Oh. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's coming of age. Yeah. And I think just so beautifully written is like the blueprint for, you know, hopefully parents will reply in that way. And a huge hit. Massive hit. Yeah, huge hit. People have really loved it. That's been a lovely response, actually, whenever anyone, often men over the age of 40 get really teared up and go, I mean, thank you so much for that. Yeah, I wish it was that. Really nice. That nice when we were all coming out in the 80s. But anyway. How are you able to keep your two week thing going with as much work that you do away from it? What happened since? You haven't. Yeah. Is Ed able to come with you? Does he do something that he can do remotely? We do try to do that. Yeah, so he is a writer and we have a production company and he sort of runs that. I am useless in that. And you guys produce, you produce the roses, you and Ed, right? Ed did. Yeah, OK, OK. Ed and Sonny March, that's Benedict's company. Yeah, and Fox Searchlight and yeah. Can't wait to see it. But not me. I'm called an EP on it, but I did absolutely fuck all. Yeah, you get a fee. What about, where'd you shoot that, in England or out here? No, in England. So we were, our characters live in America, but we did forgive me, UK, for getting Devon and Dawson in a model. I mean, that's sacrilege, but we filmed in one of those. And it was very beautiful. I've done it. I'm going to have to come over and live in America with you now. I miss that. What'd you say? I just got two counties in a model and they'll get really upset by that. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Oh, wait, so then you both play, you're both British actors, you played Americans. No, we played English because they thought, I think Tony liked the idea of our Englishness in America. And the way we we've properly slag each other off and the American incredible American cast, by the way, Kate McKinnon, Andy Sandberg, Zoe Chow. Yeah, amazing. Sunita Mani, just brilliant. How directed the film? Jay Roach. Oh, Jay Roach. Yeah, I love him. Yeah, lovely. Oh my God, Paul saying he was like herding cat. This is kind of like an all-star, this is an all-star movie, all-star director, all-star cast. Yes, he is. August 29th. Oh, nice, nice, thanks. I'm just giving you some. Yeah, of course. Thank you. We all realize it's a business at the end of the day. Listen, you may have got two. You should all come to the premiere, come to New York. Let's do it. We're definitely going to come to the premiere. Will you? Yeah. Oh my God, we should have gin and tonics in the flesh. How do you like that part of it, doing the chat and giggle tour, doing the talk shows and things like that, and stuff like this? Like, does it come naturally? It's never really to me. Do you like it? Do you enjoy it? No. There's no point lying. I don't. Yeah, right? Did Michelle Pfeiffer named Dropsade? She does the film for free. It's the press they pay her for. Yeah, yeah. I kind of feel the same. Yeah, I know that. I love Michelle Pfeiffer. You know, I was going to say, you mixed up two English counties for which you may never be forgiven. However, you've got so much credit. You've built up so much credit because you played arguably the most iconic English person of all time when you played the queen in the crown. And I got to ask. I know. I just want to know. The weight. First of all, you were so, Sean, no, sorry. It's not the show. It's not the queen that you're thinking of. It's the sequel to Heartstopper. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not that queen. No, it's not. It's not. Oh my God, you're here. It's, it's, it's, it's. What are you wearing? How very dare you. No, it's, it's, you must have been when, how did, well, a couple of questions. How did that come into your world? How did you, how did that offer come around? And when you got it and the weight of playing the queen as an English person, what you felt when you got the offer like, wait, what? All of that. Well, I've been watching Claire Foy. They'd advertised it so, so much here, you know, big posters everywhere. And, and everyone loved it, which made me go, I'm not going to watch it. I don't want to be pushed into. Right. I like to discover things. Yes. Yeah. But then of course I watched it and absolutely loved it. I was obsessed with Claire Foy. And then my agent called me once I was driving and said, they'd like to see you for, she called, she said the crown. No, she said the queen. That's it. And I went, oh, the play. We're, oh. And she said, no, no, the telly. What's it called? I went, oh, the crown. Are you kidding? And I went, absolutely yes. She went, oh, you should think about it. Went, no, no, it's yes. And I said, absolutely yes. And I hadn't really thought about the weight of what it would be. So you just, you're like, I'm all in. I was so excited. Also, to be fair, I had a huge tax bill as well. That, that, yes. Really came at a good time. After they saw the cut or. Yeah. I thought you were gonna say, I thought you were gonna say, to be fair, I just had a huge gin and tonic, which I'm like. Yeah. I mean, that's often the case. Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. But I was driving. So, well, right. So it was a smaller gin and tonic. So when you, so you get this or your agent calls and says, and you say, yeah, straight away. Okay, great. Okay, fantastic. Now there's the lead up, whatever it is, the months leading up to doing it. And you've got to get your head around playing the Queen. So you're going in, you meet everybody. Yeah, I did start to regret my decision a bit because I thought, oh, actually, this is massive. And yeah, and everyone knows what she looks like. Everyone knows what she sounds like. And yeah. Yeah. And I did start to go, oh, fuck, I shouldn't have done this. Also, I can't walk posh. You can't walk posh. No. Is there a walk? Is there a posh walk? Yeah, I walk like a farmer. And, and the director did shout out, he's not pleased that I keep reminding him of this, but he did say, more Queen, less farmer. I said, more Queen. Take your flats off and the heels on. Yeah, right. Oh, that's funny. Wait a second. Wait a second. I love that so much. So you get there and then it's day one. We've asked this before, which is like that, that moment when you're going to do your first take and you're rolling for the first time and like, Oh God, yeah. And you've got to, and like, okay, I'm now about to- And then that first time you open your mouth and you can sense everyone going, oh my. And everybody's watching, right? The video. The crew is having all the wrong choice. Oh really? Let's see her, let's see her version of the Queen. You know what I mean? And I can watch back that first scene I did and I can tell that I wasn't. We want to talk about it. Talk about it, talk about it. Yeah. But it was the, I think they did try to do things chronologically. So it was my, the stamp reveal that know of the, when they, they update our stamps with the, as the monarch ages. And so they went from Clairefoy's face, beautiful young Clairefoy to me. And I guess I've really felt incredibly nervous. I think I had quite a skirt below my knees, but my knees were absolutely going up and down. You know that wobbly knees thing. Yeah. And I sounded quite, it was really quite tight in the back of the situation. I wonder if that worked though. I wonder if that worked like maybe, you know. I don't know. I don't ever look either. I don't want to know when people, people might have been writing and going, what the fuck? Why is she doing it? All right. So then two questions. So does that sound like yes is the answer to the first one, which is do you watch, you know, playback on set or once the job is done? Not on set. No. You can't. So once it's, I think it takes too much time. I just want to get the day down. Yeah. Well, but exactly. But maybe once they've, once they've moved on, you know, they're setting up the next shot. I've always found that it's helpful for me to look at like, just the first couple of days to see if I'm there, quietly off track or not, right? To see how it's kind of coming across. But you don't. So you wait, you wait until it's all done. And then, I didn't really want to on that first day. I think I would have unraveled. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of just like, oh, just gotta keep going. It's going to get better. I'll relax as we go. Right. And then once it's done. So J.B., you're watching, you're watching first couple of days, you're watching dailies or you're watching playback? Yeah, to see, either, both. Really? Yeah. Just to see if I'm kind of in the same movie, like dailies, I'll look at, I'll see scenes that I wasn't on the set for, to see if I'm in the same tone, the same project as they are. Oh, that's a good idea. But then, once it's out, do you not look at reviews? Well, my husband will show me if it's a good one. Gotcha. And if anyone's been mean, I don't want to see it. Gotcha. That's all you think about. You never remember the good bits. You remember the bad bits that people say. I know it. I know it. I know. But I always struggle with like, well, but we're making this for the public and it'd be helpful to see if what I think is working works for the masses, right? Cause you are looking for a consensus. But don't you ask someone else, a trusted friend to look for you? Yeah, but also, but also you are making it for public consumption, but I'm not making it for them. I'm making, I always think like, I'm making it for me. Yeah, you have to want to watch it, don't you? It's tricky. Yeah, it is tricky. Yeah. We'll be right back. All right, back to the show. So you were talking about this great cast that you worked with on the roses and Kate McKinnon and No, you're acting all too curved. Sean was nominated once when we first started. Sean was nominated for Best Interviewer and Jason and I were snubbed. Is this why you're all in separate rooms? Yeah, we can't be together. This is why I went to Seattle. But I was gonna say with those great people and the, did you, was there a lot of, there must have been a lot of fun, Mr. McKinnon. Cause Kate McKinnon and Andy in particular, they're so funny and so, such great improvisers. And Benedict is wonderful, right? I don't know Benedict at all. Oh my God, yeah. Yeah, just a tiny bit. I just met him a couple of times, but he seems to have an incredibly good sense of humor. Really does. And just so enthusiastic. Yeah. And like a great big intelligent human Labrador. I saw him once repacking his suitcase in the lobby of the Greenwich Hotel. That's the only time ever. I didn't say hi cause he looked like he was really, he's really trying to jam something in. This is a true story. He's really trying to jam. You know, in that little part right there between the restaurant and the thing. Wasn't he mumbling something like, no, the dogs will smell it here. I could hear it. I could hear it. I could hear it. I should have just swallowed it. I should have just swallowed it. Oh, you're lying. But it must have been, it must have been a lot of laughs on it. Like a lot of improvising and maybe. There were some scenes where we were all together, like a dinner table scene. And it was so hard to get through the day. Yeah. And I really felt for poor Jay Roach. Yeah. No. Yeah. And the crew waiting for you guys to finish giggling. I know. To stop finding ourselves so funny. I know. Yeah. The, well, did the, I've worked with some really incredible actors that are great at improvising and coming up with alternate jokes and stuff. Oh, thanks man. And it, it, it, it makes, it made me go back to my dressing room in between setups and try to catch up and look at my scene and try to come up with other lines so that I was being as sort of creative as, as, as they are. Did, did you find, did you find that kind of, not pressure, it's not like a bad thing. I, I think because I've never written comedy. Yeah. And we were talking about this, Benedict and I, we're very much, Tony McNamara's written it and our job is to do the script. And then we're sort of, it's quite, fairly boring of us. But then you're in the, you know, in a room with Andy Sandberg and Kate McKinnon, for example. Yeah. Oh, fuck. I mean, I can't do that. I don't think I can do that. Which is also fine. Yeah. And I think know your, know your strengths, know your limits. Exactly. And, and I'm so thrilled to have, to have seen them do what they do. You know, SNL alumni and, Yeah. So fast. Did I say, did I go around? Yeah, that's right. That's right. SNL. Yeah, yeah. Can we, can we, can we change lanes for a second? Just talk about the favorite for a minute. It was such a brilliant film. Yeah. How did that, how did that come into your world? I think it was, because I'd done the lobster with your Gos Lanthimos. Oh, right. Yeah. Yes, yes, right. I love it. And so then. What a film he is, my goodness. Oh my God, he's amazing. Your Gos Lanthimos, say if you do. If he asks you, say yes. Please, I'd pull cable on his set. So you could make. Oh, Jason emails him every day. Every day, Jason emails him. Yeah, I think, I might not have the right address. I'm still alive. No, so, so right. So you did the lobster. So then the favorite comes along. God, that film is remarkable. Oh my God. And I read the script and I, you know, when you get proper sometimes you go, I think I like it, but this one you go, oh my God, I could potentially try and run someone over if they were up for the same job, you know, I want it so much. Right, because that, it's so clear on the page what a colorful character that is. You must have like, I would imagine your only challenge was like, what version of color should I do on this character? Cause it was just, it's just so spicy, right? Yeah. Or was it clear to you from right from the beginning? Yeah, sort, yeah. It was so, you know, clear on the page, I thought. Also, some actor friends of mine, they read a script and they, they read it as one thing and then they read it again in another way and they read it again, they see all this and I've never had that. And I sort of, you know, when they talk about their way of doing things, I panic. I think, oh my God, I think I'm a very simple person. I just can't really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know you mean. And so that, that reading the favorite, I thought, oh God, I can picture exactly, I really want to do it. And then I was doing broad church, I think the third season and I couldn't fit it in. And I sort of, you know, it lump in your throat when you go, I'm not available. And he said, okay, well, we'll wait. It was amazing. Wow, wow. So he waited for me, which was, I mean. What a voter confidence. Oh God, love him forever for that. Did you, when was the first time you gave him like a little taste of the character? Was that, it was that scary? Like were you sitting around a table? Were you guys refreshing at all? Well, he did, he's from theater background and he does, we did, I think three weeks of rehearsal. Oh great. What a luxury. I know. Amazing. He thinks for a better product. Yeah. And also he does it with sort of theater games. So you might do, he loves to do the whole script from start to finish, but without maybe saying it, you might go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, in the sort of gist of what you're saying. And you all just go, blah, blah, blah, blah, to each other and get through the whole story. Or you do it all holding hands and you're tying yourselves in a massive knot. So you end up with your face near someone's bum and you know, someone's foot in your armpit. And so you end up. With no inhibitions, pissing yourselves, laughing together. So you start your first day on set, you know the film inside out, you know each other, totally at ease with each other. I've never done anything like it, it was amazing. It was lovely. It's the best. It's like astonishing that not every director does that. It's like, don't you want the whole cast to feel like they know each other and like there's history there. Otherwise it's like, hi, nice to meet you, ready to go. Well, I don't know, we haven't had even a dinner together. Oh nice to meet you, you were in a sexy and hoot. Yeah, yeah. I don't understand why it's not always like that. Oh, I'd love to know more about that. Yeah, that whole rehearsal process. That's amazing. It was really nice. Jason's gonna come in London, go ahead. Thank you, oh yeah. We'll all come, we'll all come to your rehearsals. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that. And do the games and do the stuff so that Jason's face ends up near Ashon's bum. There we go. For a second time. Wait, Olivia, what were you gonna say? I cut you off, I'm sorry. I have no idea, sorry. My attention's banished, no, sorry. So then you went, again, at risk of embarrassing you would further, but you win the Academy Award for the favorite. And... Great speech, by the way. Thanks. Great speech. I did, I loved the speech. I did so memorable. Thanks so much. And then the next, so then the next day, so you win the Academy Award, Ashon's right, great speech, and then it's the next morning and you wake up. And then it's like, I just get a cup of coffee like every other day, like how, you know? Or a couple of ibuprofen and a few coffees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, yeah, kind of bonkers. Yeah, and then you've got to fly home with it, right? So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I put it in my hand luggage because I didn't want it to go into the hold of the plane. That's how, yeah, of course. And then Stuart and Stuart S is asking, can we see it, have you got it? Yeah, I've got it in my bag. And let's, really? How about that going through the, you know, the metal detector? The metal detector. The beeper. Yeah, yeah. Did they see it? Yeah, I suppose so. They must have done. Just like going by the screen, there's an Oscar going through the screen. Yeah, imagine that shape comes up pretty clear on the, on the, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and you don't want to, you don't want to check it in the luggage and put it in the hold because if they lose it, then it's good night Oscar, you know? Oh, my goodness, Will. That's one of the most wonderful. That's Sean's play, good night Oscar. Oh my God. It's a terrible tie back. So you take it out and are you showing it around the cabin there with the stewardesses and whatnot? Or is it just kind of just unzip and just take a look in the bag? Just a little look in the bag. Cause I find, I don't have anything out on show at home. I find it a little bit. So, God, you're so English. You're so English in the bag. It's delightful. It's absolutely delightful. Is it hidden in a closet somewhere? Yeah, it was in a cupboard in our sitting room. Yeah. Just because I, but we've discovered the cupboard's a bit damp. So we live in a very old house. So our whole house is front of it's 1600. Wow. I know. But it's so pretty, but it is a bit damp. Yeah. And our lovely Darren, who's a carpenter, a handyman painter, he opened the cupboard and went, are you fucking kidding? I went, you know, I'm stamping here. And so he made me take it out and I've now got it on a bookshelf, but behind a book. So that I know it's there and I can say hello to him. No, that's nice. It's really nice. That's very good. So Darren rescued him. You get another one, you bake bookends, you know? Then you're gonna have to look at it. So before we let you go, I mean, you got a very busy life. You're working all the time. You're just, I mean, you could almost. And a mom. And you're a mom. And you're a mom. And you have, and you're doing all, and you're out in the countryside. What do you do? Is your, we always ask people, is there one sort of guilty pleasure thing that you do? Like little like sort of TV that you watch, that you enjoy. What's the dumbest thing you do? What's the dumb, do you do anything dumb as a sort of hobby that's kind of secret nobody knows about? I think I tell everybody everything. So nothing's really very secret. Good for you. I really love shit reality telly. Yeah. Right? My God, have you seen Too Hot to Handle? No. It's fucking brilliant. What is that? Is that up there with like Love Island and Below Deck and stuff like that? I've never really, Below Deck, I love Below Deck. Love Island I've never seen, but Too Hot to Handle is, please watch it. So it's all these really over sexed, incredibly hot, beautiful people that were on this island. They're told they're there for a show, a dating show. And then it's great. And then the presenter comes on and says, actually you're all here for Too Hot to Handle. And you can see them going, oh God, because it means that they're not allowed to touch each other. And they start with a money pot of like a hundred grand and they forget that there's a million cameras in this house. And anyone so, masturbation is like five grand and a snog is two grand. It's hilarious. Or it's so funny. I've got to watch it. It's so good. And then the next morning, this sort of, it's like a, what are those? I don't have one. Those gadgets in the house that you can talk to. Oh yeah, like Alexa. Oh, like an Alexa. So the Alexa type thing goes, let's all meet on the sofa. And they'll go, what, I haven't, I haven't, didn't view who's lost us some money. And then she says, the money pot is now down to 90 grand. Someone was being shared. And they're all looking at each other. And you got to figure out who did it. So someone, and then they go to like a hand moving under the duvet and it's so funny. That's really funny. Wait, I've got to see it. 10 grand, but it's only five grand. Yeah, no, Gary, Gary jerked off twice. Oh, that's so good. Wait, is that on British? And sometimes I think totally worth it. I'll tell you. Is it a British show or is it on like Netflix or something like that? I have a feeling it's, I've seen it with Americans and in English. I think it, yeah. What about the, what about the traders? Have you seen the traders? Do you know that show? Love traders, love it. I love it. We had gone holiday every year with four families and we play mafia every night. Yeah, during the pandemic. Yes, now listen to this. During the pandemic, we were playing mafia on Zoom with like 20 people, right? And after like 10 times, I'm like, I feel like this is a TV show, but I didn't do anything about it. And then cut to one of the biggest shows in the history of the world, the traders. I mean, it's exactly the same thing. Where do I find that? Well, Sean. On Peacock is at the Alan Cumming, the American version. And then I think the- I haven't seen the American one yet. Oh yeah, I've seen the UK version as well, which is- And then what's your name? Claudia- Claudia Winckelman. Yeah. Which is great. Who's my friend Chris's wife. She does the UK version. Oh my God, she's incredible. You know her? I do. My friend Chris TK's wife. I would love to meet her. Yeah. But JB, remember we played mafia every night at New Year's this past year. Yeah, I'm always playing. With the kids and with every, we had all our kids, we had every- Yeah, the kids all play. 25 of us. Do you find if you get murdered, you know it's your kids that have done it? Yeah. It's every time. It happened a lot. It happened a lot. Kids always murdered their parents. I ended up, I tell you what, I ended up having to run it most of the times. I only got to play like twice of like the 20 times we did it. Right. Which was a bummer. Yeah, and if I get, if I pick the killer card and I'm the murderer, I start laughing immediately. Like I'm the worst. What, you do a killer, you guys do cards that you pick? Or somebody is, yeah. Yeah, you pick it. We assign, we assign. Everybody close their eyes and we go around and whoever's running it assigns. Okay. Oh, we do cards. Yeah, we do cards. Same as Sean. And we have the same guy called Guy who is the best guy at running it. And he loves it. He likes to run it. He's got a gentle Welsh accent and it really works. He loves it. That would be so fun. Olivia, if we see each other in London, we should play. Oh my God, I'll get Guy along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can run it. Do it while me and Amanda are there, Shawnee. Yeah, yeah, we should. That'd be so fun. Let me know. Oh, well, Olivia Coleman. I'm so thrilled to meet you. I had such a nice time. What an absolute thrill. What a huge, massive fan. You're the glory of your, oh, massive fans. Me too, I was incredibly nervous. For the first half of this, my heart was going like mad. Oh, and then Ed came in with the lubrication. I bless Ed to be able to tell that I needed a little, a little card. You were fantastic. You were awesome. You were terrific. Very nice of you to do this. Nice to meet you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for having me. Have a great summer. I'll see you in London and we'll play Matthew. Yes, we would love it. In London and a lot of success with the roses, August 29th once again. Thank you. Very happy for you and your success. Yeah. Thank you so much. I'm a huge fan of all of you and I'm really grateful you had me on. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, honey. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. What a nice, you know, it was like a strawberry Wimbledon breakfast, you know? Sure. What's a strawberry Wimbledon? Wimbledon, I don't know, the creams. It just feels so refreshing and European, you know, first thing in the morning. Yeah, it was really nice. You know, people who are that joyful work a lot, I like that. You think that's the key? Well, I think it's part of it, don't you think? Sure, exactly. I mean, nobody wants to hire assholes. No, exactly. This is what I keep telling you, Sean, from the straight out. Get in line. I mean, yeah, she does work a lot. She's in so many different things and so many different types of roles. I've got to tell you, she's in the bear. She also recurring. She's in the bear, yeah. Yeah, in no way. Yeah. What's she doing on that show? I don't know, man. She's poking the bear. I guess she pokes the bear. Sounds like a dream. What about where she lives? Is it in the middle of the countryside in England? I mean, doesn't that sound amazing? And you can just sort of see her like, just kind of children laughing in the wind, just sort of gentle breeze through the trees and the birds and stuff. The ice clattering against the side of the glass. A large genitonic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With something grilling on the thing outside and friends over, maybe some maffia late in the night. Is he trying to get closer to a bye? You know, I don't know. When did Rob just send, what does that word mean? Well, he's trying to, he's pitching a bye here and it's something like bye col- Rob Arm Yerv is trying to pitch a bye. This is a for you. Yeah, it's like bucolic, but bye col- Yeah, like bucolic, but bye col- What does that even mean, bucolic? Bucolic is sort of country. Leafy and tree, you know, outdoors. So she's a pretty good one. But it's you and not bye. Yeah, but it is- I'll tell you what, it would be good if you could somehow work in the word combined into something like that. You could really lean on the bye section to combine. Right, if you took the two, but then you were saying, you put two things together. Right. So, oh, I know, she's an actress that can do comedy and drama. So, I don't know. Yeah, so what if she found the perfect role where you- Oh, what, what? Oh, she took the two things and she was able to come by. Wow! Bye, you guys. Yes, come by col- Smart, lost. Smart, lost. SmartLess is 100% organic and artisanly handcrafted by Michael Grant Terry, Rob Armjalf and Bennett Barbicó. Smart, lost. Smart, lost.