NFL Legend Cris Carter GOES OFF on Jerry Jones, Rips Ceedee Lamb, & Picks Packers To Win Super Bowl
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•Sep 11, 20257 months agoSummary
NFL Hall of Famer Cris Carter joins the Double Coverage Podcast to discuss Week 1 NFL performances, criticize CeeDee Lamb's drops and Jalen Carter's spitting incident, and make bold predictions including Green Bay Packers winning the Super Bowl. The hosts and Carter analyze quarterback rankings, draft strategy, and betting picks for upcoming games.
Insights
- Drops are unacceptable at elite receiver level—Carter emphasizes that CeeDee Lamb's two crucial drops in Week 1 represent a fundamental skill failure, not just a bad game
- Draft capital creates lane assignments in NFL success—higher draft picks receive better coaching attention and game plan integration than later-round selections
- Quarterback evaluation should prioritize 'getting on the winning bus' over pure statistics—team construction and coaching matter as much as individual QB talent
- Running game resurgence driven by undersized defenses—teams are exploiting smaller linebackers with ground attacks, making unders a betting trend to watch
- New kickoff rule fundamentally changes field position strategy—offenses starting at the 29-yard line (furthest in NFL history) creates first-half scoring opportunities
Trends
NFL running game renaissance due to undersized defensive schemes prioritizing pass coverageFirst-half overs becoming more valuable with new kickoff rule creating better offensive field positionYounger quarterbacks (Daniel Jones, CJ Stroud) proving doubters wrong early in seasonDraft position directly correlating to coaching investment and game plan integrationDefensive undersizing trend creating offensive line and running back valueScouting service spending disparities affecting franchise competitiveness (Bengals example)Marijuana legalization influencing NFL player recovery and league policy evolutionReceiver drop rates becoming more scrutinized and penalized in modern NFL analysisCoaching quality (Andy Reid, Dan Quinn) becoming primary differentiator in QB successSuper Bowl contention increasingly dependent on offensive line protection and run game balance
Topics
CeeDee Lamb Week 1 Performance and Drop AnalysisJalen Carter Spitting Incident and NFL DisciplineQuarterback Rankings and Evaluation MethodologyDraft Capital and Player Development StrategyNFL Running Game ResurgenceNew Kickoff Rule Impact on ScoringGreen Bay Packers Super Bowl PredictionKansas City Chiefs Receiver InjuriesDaniel Jones and Indianapolis Colts UpsetNFL Betting Trends and Unders StrategyDefensive Undersizing and Pass CoverageOffensive Line Protection IssuesHall of Fame Selection CriteriaChad Johnson Hall of Fame DebateFantasy Football Week 1 Results
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Cris Carter
NFL Hall of Famer and primary guest; provides expert analysis on receiver play, QB evaluation, and Super Bowl predict...
CeeDee Lamb
Dallas Cowboys receiver criticized for two crucial drops in Week 1 against Philadelphia Eagles
Jalen Carter
Philadelphia Eagles lineman who spat on Dak Prescott; Carter argues for harsher suspension
Daniel Jones
Indianapolis Colts QB praised for silencing doubters with dominant Week 1 performance vs Miami
CJ Stroud
Houston Texans QB ranked highly by Carter despite poor Week 1 due to offensive line issues
Patrick Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs QB ranked #1 by Carter despite Week 1 loss to Chargers
Jalen Hurts
Philadelphia Eagles QB ranked in top 5 by Carter for 'getting on the winning bus' despite lower stats
Joe Burrow
Cincinnati Bengals QB compared to Troy Aikman; ranked top 5 but limited by franchise spending
Josh Allen
Buffalo Bills QB ranked #3 overall by Carter in current quarterback hierarchy
Lamar Jackson
Baltimore Ravens QB ranked #2 overall; Carter believes he's better than Josh Allen
Jerry Jones
Dallas Cowboys owner criticized for Michael Parsons trade as 'one of worst trades in NFL history'
Michael Parsons
Dallas Cowboys pass rusher; Carter praises his talent despite team's poor trade management
Randy Moss
Former Vikings receiver; Carter acknowledges him as better receiver than himself
Jerry Rice
Hall of Famer receiver; Carter ranks him among best receivers ever alongside himself
Larry Fitzgerald
Hall of Famer receiver; Carter notes they share unique stat distinction of more tackles than drops
Dak Prescott
Dallas Cowboys QB; involved in spitting incident with Jalen Carter
Ray Lewis
Former Ravens linebacker; Carter recalls being hit by him and rates him among greatest defenders
Chad Johnson
Former Bengals receiver; Carter argues he shouldn't be in Hall of Fame based on statistics
Asante Samuel Jr.
Defensive back who defended Chad Johnson in Hall of Fame debate with Carter
Terrell Owens
Hall of Famer who agreed with Asante Samuel in Chad Johnson Hall of Fame debate
Quotes
"Dropping the football's unacceptable to me because that's all you learn from dropper the balls how to drop the ball"
Cris Carter•Mid-episode receiver discussion
"There's levels to this. So when you see a guy have drops or you're just like trying to wrap your head around it"
Cris Carter•CeeDee Lamb analysis
"Green Bay is legit and if you've never been to Green Bay you talking about a home field advantage like I couldn't man if I was betting man I'm betting money on Green Bay"
Cris Carter•Super Bowl prediction
"The quarterback the number one thing is do I get my team on the winning bus? That's what matters most"
Cris Carter•QB evaluation discussion
"It's one of the worst trades in the history of the NFL. If you're gonna trade them you should trade them before the draft where you could have gotten multiple"
Cris Carter•Michael Parsons trade criticism
Full Transcript
How have you been seeing all these things going through the news especially entertainment everything people compromising They sell for the sake of money or a frame be careful what you say now Because the first thing is let me spit on you for that and the next thing is A was shit I sent you down there Well, what else would you do for? You was good What's up guys missed exact here welcome back to double coverage Adventure what's up guys? Hi, all doing so man. How are you doing well bro? Pretty sad from last week But you know hoping to bounce back this week because bros a very interesting week it was it was really just work Why the story the closest Bats of week one games we've ever had what was your favorite game of the week my favorite game of the week was definitely bills Ravens I couldn't watch out streaming that did see dare carry fun with the ball. It was fucking crazy I wish I bet bro like in the fourth quarter I would want to shit ton of money you want to want a fuck ton of money if you bet on Buffalo's money line in the fourth quarter Josh Allen to go also the best offensive lineman ever touch the game Dion dockens. I love you bro They subbed him out, but did you yeah no they subbed him out in the game But it was just like it was both shit. It shouldn't sub about yeah, how about zo posting I can't believe how bad the Ravens killed the bill he was secure He was doing security at the time so he didn't really see what happened at the end of the game, but It was a fucking crazy. I would have paid to watch his face when you read the box for though. I was in front of him He was like how the fuck is he's impossible? Yeah, I think a lot of people like fell asleep at half time woke up to see that A lot of shocked faces. Yeah, how about the start of the week Cowboys Eagles gets chippy We got lineman throwing punches. We got Jalen Carter spitting on DAC That's what makes a sport fun though. I'm out of football player, but Looking third person like brush it's very entertaining bro, and then you come later and you see DAC spit on him first No, he's been on the ground. Well, all right. If a guy spits on the ground next to what are you doing? Nothing? You serious? Yeah, it wasn't targeted at him. Yes, we were he looked in the eyes and spit right on the ground Yeah, but it was like to him like always being even when he was a basketball game He's got like a spit cup in front of him for real. Yeah, how do you know this much bro? Yeah, well DAC's like he's a Walter Payton man of the year winner Yeah, good guy. He's not trying to spit on anyone Yeah, Jalen Carter took it very far Very far We got our our upcoming guest pointed at me making me feel good. He liked that little little knowledge right there How do you know that DAC has a spit cup in NBA game bro? I gotta do your research. I'm a free. Yeah, bro It's like some like you're like watching him court side Kind of brief. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy. Um, but yeah, obviously DAC's not ever gonna be an ill-attended guy You know, yeah for sure you'll DAC up on the hop on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, DAC we're trying to get you on We even defended you again shady who looked a little silly after that game true And I was supposed to have DAC in an fantasy. I didn't have him bro real quick now that we're talking about the Cowboys Michael fucking Parsons, bro That sack right there. I probably felt like crazy after that, bro. He did But you gotta remember it chaired golf. It's it's blinds that right you can't you think Jared golf's a good quarterback He's a system quarterback. There's like a static. Oh, in 19 under certain like without getting play calls from certain people I don't know. I think he's great in certain conditions. Yeah, um, he's great with certain play callers He's great in certain situations if he has a strong one game you can get the play action going you can get an arid them But under pressure under the rest. He's not the quarterback So who do you think played the best last week? Who was I the most benched Herbert impressed, but why would you bench Herbert? Because my fucking child bro know my chat. They're like oh play stride your Texan span. We got shit on bro You think you think the neon chat should decide no, they're done. They're done. They suck. They don't know they're done. Yeah, I don't know what the Abba down bro. I love it. I love it. It was just Here's my thing, but as a Texans we don't have like targets, bro Like we don't have enough receivers for it's us even Fucking have a good game, bro. And offensive line sucks. It was just it was terrible. We're so sad. I supposed to go to the game Thank God I didn't I think the most impressive I mean you gotta give it to Daniel Jones in the Indianapolis Colts Going out there steam rolling the Miami dolphins like that Daniel Jones silencing all the doubters probably been more hated on than Almost any other player than NFL. I don't think anyone expected him to come out like that. It is one week though It's one week, but I think he's probably the biggest winner of week one Because all the sudden a guy who has been shit on by every single analyst players etc Goes out there and does that right especially after the coach granted in the starting job over Anthony Richardson What's also got a lot of hate? Crazy I bet on the chiefs and they lost bro. How did that even happen bro? Yeah, also Wu bet on the chiefs I know that's how I got the bet from why would you take a bet from whoo? I don't know worse than your chat. Yeah, no, it's pretty fun. Whoo. Can we put up a picture of whoo? Thank you It was a bad bet bro. It was bad shout to woo though I kept giving him winning picks and then you would blow it all on his pitch I'm following your shit next week. Yeah, yeah, he's like I'm only gonna listen to you Zach You're the best and then he's like I bet it on the chiefs. I'm like what are you doing? I'm like that's like a good bet bro What about that was good? I didn't think the charges are gonna come out like that at all They're a well-coached scene. They got a great quarterback. I think they have they the charge are dangerous. You think so yeah Who surprised me? Herbert Harbaugh. They draft Hampton like there's a lot of pieces there who surprised you other than the cool It's oh man the cold shock the hell out of me Who surprised you let me think about this fucking Texans bro that we lost That was shocking for you. It was pretty sure bro. It's low scoring game only field goals. I was pissed bro For you. I mean yeah, no I'm not happy because I had the Rams Yeah, you told me to even like look to the camera and smile and pose remember that I do remember that yeah Didn't age very well not at all fucking ears falcons. I was a classic. Yeah Browns almost knock off the bangles. What a week? IT he gets a fantasy to not do good my fantasy team shit the bed bro. Hmm. Shit the bed. I'm shocked. You didn't draft a good team Well, you didn't help me bro. You didn't ask I was using my fucking chat. Yeah Well, maybe you need to you know do fancy for a different sport. Yeah, I lost 5k Yeah, I'm I need I need to take a bet plus 5k. Yeah, bro. There's a 5k bro winter gets 60k You had to put 5k in that we went sponsored. I didn't pay you at those. I'm not gonna. Yeah, no don't pay it Yeah, no, well, it's other streamers. I don't want to like you know piss them off. Yeah, not good They were probably featured on the the Friday night game though It's had to bring it up, huh? You know, I'm seeing everyone you know Malfa grissin. They're the commissioner and shit. I'm just sitting at home watching. It's kind of yeah Yeah, they didn't show any love the double coverage. It's okay. They got to bring us out. Yeah next time. Yeah, yeah We're gonna email Gado we're gonna make sure double coverage is live. I don't think he's reading our email, bro He might read our email. We're number seven on the podcast. That's true. That is fire Yep Congratulations to us and the team we put it all together and we did our thing one episode in I'm still learning you do that You've done a thousand of these I've done ten of these Mm-hmm. I'm still learning. Thank you for believing in us. Well, we were talking about it like streaming Compared to podcasts is so different like streaming. It's to me easier to you. It's harder. Yeah, podcasts are it's like We have the gift of editing. Yeah, they have no idea what we said that we cut out I don't like that though. I mean remember the last episode I think they could do no Max the producer and we cut it out. Yeah, yeah, like you yellows Explosives Adam and we had a deal. We can't cut anything from now on okay deal. It's like the most natural organic shit I but we can't cut no cuts. Okay cool. Yeah Last time we opened up the show like they messed up your drink order and you started like smacking like I was like to chill Neal we're gonna cut it out. How do you lie like this bro? I what now? Have you ever spoken to an NFL Hall of Famer an active one? No, I have not Today today wait, let's not McCoy. He's not a Hall of Famer real. Nope. Oh, that's fuck. He's actually eligible this coming here Yeah, he got to get it. He could be a future one. Yeah, he's on the cost But the guy we're having on was more of a surefire one. Let's bring them in let's go Eight-time pro-buller NFL Hall of Famer Mr. Chris Carter What's up guys? It's Miss exact here from the double coverage podcast our leave sponsor my bookie.adj is running a promo right now Where you can deposit up to five hundred dollars and get a bet back bonus token That means if you make a play and it doesn't hit you're still in the game But I've got a play for this Saturday that I think will help ensure that you stay in the game when Sao O'Kinello Alvarez takes on Terrence Bud Crawford Canelo is a 16-time world champion Crawford a 13-time world champion Both these guys are a pound per pound Giants and they're colliding for an epic clash Crawford a champion at 147 pounds 140 pounds Canelo the current champion at 168 pounds Crawford did last contest at 154 pounds So it is a two-way class jump for them and I think that's just too much Canelo for this camp seems very locked in he brought in boots and it's to help ensure that he gets that best look for Crawford And when I look at these two guys I see Canelo Alvarez coming out on top and when you make that bet use code double That's DOU BL3 at mybookie.ag and that's endorsed by Miss exact from double coverage Now we are welcome by the man the myth the legend eight-time pro-bullars 130 career touch-challens and a fall of famer mr. Chris Carter Are you doing very good? How you guys doing? Never been around a Hall of Famer ever okay. Well, you said you were doing an interview with shady McCoy. Yeah, potentially eventually he'll be a Hall of Famer For sure, but current yeah, right. It's not a discussion for sure. Yes. I live in Florida, but I sleep in Ken Yes, okay, that's where the Hall of Famous oh shit. Yeah, and if you'll Hall of Famers in Ken, Ohio Birthplace of football Be kind of Hall of Famers. I want to ask you this off the bat. We're gonna go We're just gonna get right into it. Okay. I saw a post a sauntei Samuel had some choice words and then I saw Mr. Trell Owens chime in and agree with him well me and to our Owens have never been friends from way back in the day and And Asante Samuels was basically trying to come to the rescue of Chad Johnson Because I had said Chad Johnson was not a Hall of Famer But then all of a sudden the sauntei who never played against me and no one ever told him that The Chris Carter was overrated. Yeah, then he chimed in So he's trying to fight a fight for Chad Johnson, but which was really child's play because the facts are what they are Why is so you and you have never gotten along? No So if you saw him right now like it wouldn't be like a daff up handshake. No, no, no, we wouldn't speak to each other seriously Yeah, this should get deep. Oh my god. You know problem. I mean her whole world is 350 million people in the United States Yeah, no function without one person now he might not think so, but it's still spinning damn Hall of Fam dinner if they sat you guys next to each other would you be like now? No, we wouldn't say next year and he doesn't show up the Hall of Famers like he doesn't recognize the Hall of Fam But you do oh, absolutely Yeah, it's the it's the greatest honor as an athlete. Yeah, it's the it's the most respectful thing and anybody can say it's the It's to answer to all the questions at the barber shop when you go get your hair cut and ask, hey man. How good was that guy? Oh, he was a Hall of Fam. Oh, okay And that goes to any decade that goes to any conversation that makes it simple enough So they're like a twitch Hall of Fame Please you make one eventually just gonna be one Yeah, are you talking to streaming at all or not really and not like you got no okay? No, not like that. Would you ever like do your own stream? I wouldn't do it. I'd have to be Drug into something okay like like you guys world like you guys were talking about doing like McAfee Yeah, then I'd like to be one the old OGs on the side and everything been like on that. That was stupid You know I got a weird random question for you go in now that I have you here like who's the worst quarterback you got to play with Like in my last year with the Vikings his name was spurgin win I think he has the lowest quarterback rate in the history of the NFL And my last game with the Minnesota Vikings We are playing the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore And we put a play in the coach swirping down. I was gonna be open going across the middle They haven't have a linebacker though by a number of 52 by the name of Ray Lewis And I knew Ray when he saw the play he would recognize it and he wouldn't go on the undercover He would come on me because I'm a primary guy And spurgin win I tell him when they put the play in don't listen to the coach do not throw me the ball on that play Go to the underneath coverage because Ray is gonna take me He didn't listen to me look the way from under coverage through it right to me And then Ray Lewis smack me right across the face going across the middle Hardest you've ever been hit it was definitely one of the hardest When I got back to the huddle I had a few choice words for spurgin win Has there ever been a defender that you were your teammates feared more than Ray Lewis? I don't I I think that respect would probably be the right word Um, there's not a lot of guys planning NFL that are fearful You have to be able to respect their talent. Yeah, we'll be able to put in a game plan to make sure they don't wreck the game plan But he is a ridiculously great player even amongst great players He's a great player like if the Hall of Fame had an extra level of Hall of Fame. I think he would I mean you can say that we don't like to debate the Hall of Fame because we all we're all on the same team now Yeah, yeah, like all centuries. We let we let other people you know do that But there's no doubt that Ray Lewis was a special special football player and And that's what the Hall of Fame the recognition for that is is is worthy Nowadays in the NFL who do you think is like the most underrated player on the defensive end right now? Because there's a lot of people that like their names go unknown, but they're doing We know really good word. Okay as far as the The most underrated it's hard to be underrated in the NFL You know like especially now because there's so many sats there's so many people looking at the game and there's so many coaches that will get you in a specific Situation for the talent that you have And build a isolated now there might be a couple guys that you didn't necessarily know about and then they pop on the screen And then to end up having a big year and then in the pebbin of a good career, but That's what the NFL is about accumulating the maximum amount of talent and then highlighting that talent by seeing what you can do What you can't do and then putting you in situations with the things that you can do and doing well And try to get you to repeat that So it is a it's it. I mean, there's still underrated players. I would say Baker may feel is an underrated player I mean there's even players in the Hall of Fame that I do believe are still underrated players receiver Isaac Bruce Underrated player defensive back rendez barber, you know underrated player when when they played in league played on big Just see the teams that accumulate a number of Hall of Famers Troy Aigman underrated, you know as a Hall of Famers So they're still out there and there's a still a handful of guys that you target I believe that Danny Don's you picked him up Indy being the best quarterback this week He had him like he looked like a totally different guy. Yeah, totally dropback not the dual threat that they were trying to do with the giants He looked like that game when the giants beat the Vikings in the playoffs like he looked that good plan for the coach But there's a few guys flying under the radar, but those are a couple offensively defensive. Yeah, I rate you Tim Brown, Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin as the four best receivers to enter the NFL in the late 80s You guys came in had instant impacts lit it up Who would you say are the top four guys in the league today at the receiver position? Well, um, well first of all I appreciate the compliment and all those guys great guys all little Myself Tim Brown and Michael Irvin were all on the same high school all-american team. Are you serious? Yeah, that's crazy Yeah, USA today December like the second we get to send for addition we were the three receivers And then when we went to college Timmy at Notre Dame from Dallas Michael from down here for Lauderdale with the Miami and me from Ohio went to Ohio State We were all all America first team all America. I'm not having that newspaper Fuck With those three aims on it and then we had multiple provoles that we were together and then now teammates in In the Hall of Fame, but today's game is really centered around okay. Who are the other two because Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson Ellis you boys are clearly The best two receivers in the league now to me there's a handful of guys After that that you know, I'm on St. Brown um Tyrick Hill AJ Brown, you know those guys right there are kind of in that collection of You know the next guys those are the guys depending on what kind of flavor ice cream that you like But those are the guys when I look at and I talk about and when I watch them weaken and weak out the those are the guys to me that have the highest skill level and a lot of Young receivers coming up you omitted a name he had a really rough week one CD lamb Yeah, CD lamb's in there. Okay. Yeah, I didn't I didn't admit him by no there wasn't by choice. No, he's definitely one of the top ones What did you take bad week bro? Yeah, wait. What do you take away from his week one? I mean every receiver is obviously No, I've never had a wish they didn't like that you've never had a game like that no So so you didn't know Hey, I mean he didn't got one crucial pay he dropped two crucial passes. Yeah, he's gonna come back strong though But we weren't talking about that. Yeah, we were talking about yeah, what he what happened in the game I just soft subjects my boy, but no, it's I mean, you're gonna be a player like it They were brutal. They're dope bro drops. That's unacceptable Dropping the football's unacceptable to me because that's all you learn from dropper the balls how to drop the ball Like it's against the law to me not loud. So he has two big-time drops myself in Larry Fitzgerald I know you don't know this we're the only two players in the history of the NFL have more tackles and drops Yeah, you knew Larry you didn't know I was in there because someone printed Larry lately Yes, we have more tackles on interception then we have dropped pass There's levels to this So when you see a guy have draw or you're just like trying to wrap your head around it No, I know in the moment there's two things that happened and one he saw the other defender and he took his eyes off the ball And the second one down the sideline like that's just if you're gonna be in all time or you're gonna make that catch Like you're gonna make that play because his arms weren't totally extended if they're totally extended No, it's like only maybe a 5% chance But his arms were partially extended which meant he had a enough margin on the ball in judging it that he could have pulled an in and he hit both of his hands He can go off his fingertips or anything like that. Yeah, like this is just a fax at the game like It's done again. I'd love CD CD came down here for his Pre-combine workout and we got him ready did all of his drafting did all his interview did all his coverage got him ready for his interview Everything got him in shape put some extra pounds of muscle on him like CD. He's a ball No, no, he's a baller, but he had a horrific Game because he had a chance to be the her hero like yeah But he said after the game immediately he said no, I dream about it like I want to be in that that position No, Mike. He's a stand-up guy like he yeah, he's not trying to hide They said he was um after the game he was catching passes from the drugs. Absolutely. He should it. Yeah You've been like stuff curry if stuff curry had gone five for 30 like I guarantee you Would if you drop two deep passes in the four quarter that yeah, what do you think that is you think that's five for two and five for 15 That's five for fucking 30. Let's go get to back to the gym and get some j's up Hmm That yeah, and you want to get those bad thoughts out of there So you don't want to go to practice. He don't want to go. I'm getting this out of here right now See the ball catch it in your hands all those things. Yeah, that's a professional approach about it So prior prior to the game we spoke last a little bit, but I want to get your take on it jalen Carter Spits on Dak Prescott Did you ever have an incident like that and what would your reaction be if like a DB came up to you before the game and spit on you No, if the first of all if the DB would have ever done that I wouldn't I wouldn't made it to the Hall of Fame Like I would I still be looking for Like no, that's not getting ready to happen man Like you're not getting ready to spit on me, but also I'm not getting ready to get into somebody's face That they're gonna think that spitting would be appropriate. Oh, I'm not gonna make any gestures that they would think that I was spitting on them Because it's probably the nastiest thing you can do as a human being. Yeah It's like the biggest time disrespect. Yeah, like so you know that I thought the league should have suspended him another game Even though he missed this whole game. They should have suspended him another game because You got too many people you got too many young people watching the game And shit guess what Florida look at what three or four days later kid from florida spits on the kid from south Florida in the game in college So they could have nip they could have if they would give him a two game suspension Send down the hammer because all these kids look to the NFL for everything. Yeah, then maybe this dummy at Florida Wouldn't spit on this other kid from south Florida Like no, that's that's this is someone tried you like that. There would have been no stopping you from No, no, that's really not man Like no, I would never do anything to deserve that yeah, even if I had done something to deserve that you shouldn't have done that to me I still be looking for you I mean no no one's no one's No one's spitting stressy on a quarterback man But I was looking at it in this hard to see really on the video and everything But back on his jersey. He's got the NFL logo right there in the middle He's got the captain over here on this shoulder on the right one and he's got the NFL man of the year logo on the other one Do spit right in between them everything we stand for This is one of our pillar Yeah, but these guys got my damn care about the fine money is still hurts No, the money doesn't know that It's different If you have to take money say out of your pocket, okay, let's just say this I just happen to have a little money. God damn let's just say this let's just say Okay, let's just say Chris we're getting ready to find you for being late to the show a thousand dollars But I gotta count it out. Oh shit man. Oh man you oh There he goes. I'm sorry I promise I promise next time you know, I'm being on time. Yeah compared to Electronic withdrawals and this is what they take from your check So when you see your check stuff. It's like oh they find me if you don't necessarily see the money coming out So it's not quite as painful even though it's gone. Yeah It's not quite as painful. That's why we have seen through the years when you find guys Sometimes it doesn't have the sting That it really should have because they don't see the money anyway. No, they don't Like it's just it's just like based in editing on a counting era like Like they don't see it's it if it was physically like coming out of their pocket or it was a amount 100,000, 150,000 200,000 that would get their attention. Yeah, would you get spit on for 60k? Fuck yeah, bro But like Hey, you're looking at me like that like not on my face like My hoodie pants if I know I'm getting money and it's like you split the money, you know, it's not like that There's other ways to make money man didn't degrade in yourself bro. How old are you man? Yes. No, how old are you 21? I mean you're gonna have to make up your how have you been seeing all these things going through the news especially an entertainment and everything People compromising they sell for the sake of money or a frame be careful what you say now Because the first thing is let me spit on you for that and then next thing is a worship I'll send you down there Well, what else would you do for my You Shit, come on you got me The way extra couple stacks and a couple thousand what I mean come on bro. No, no, no Quick question man, you know you're obviously more knowledgeable than me. I'm a diehard Texan spin. Yeah die hard You please tell me what what went wrong? They didn't rebuild the offensive line All right, this offseason. Now when Joe mixing comes back things will be fixed a little bit better But don't panic CJ Stroud is that guy I'm panicking He's gonna high-speed guy CJ Stroud's that guy man great guy great character Man his family his dad being locked up being away like he is a grown man Like he's maturity been through some hard stuff. This is not going to alter his career It's only gonna make him better, but you got to be able to protect him up front They got the right guy Joe mixing gets back be a little more physical But that divisions up in there watch out for the coast Is there deep The coach if we don't make the playoffs I'm gonna be hurt bro So watch out for the cool thing about the division tank does out for the season two right yeah Yeah, his small guys get hurt. Yeah, 165 cars Don't get in accidents and do well What's the worst injury you add in when you're in the league? I was very very fortunate that in my 16 years 13 of those years I played at least 15 games. That's crazy. So I broke my collarbone Um, and I was out four weeks. I was the most significant thing. Wow only four weeks. Yeah Great conditioning genetics genetics and you got to get lucky with genetics you go good. Yeah, you coach you coach a team correct Yeah, I coach it for it. How do I apply to be a walk on? I Think you're gonna do better in the getting spit on business and other I think you're gonna wonder I think you want to hike the ball to the the punter For the kicker the long time then what are you gonna do? I'm a hand out the waters to the team You know, I got a block the but when you hike it the play is still going how are you gonna protect yourself? I'm just hope for the best I think there's a lot of I love to come to a game though and watch I think yeah, yeah, that would be good You should come to the game maybe stream live or something like that. That would be cool. Yeah, you might be a better fit for like Yeah, the computer programming it. Yeah, that football is not cut out for everyone I'm more of a mess up your hair and everything. Yeah, I feel like you're not gonna know where you're like there Okay, I like that. Yeah, one day if you would be down if you could put us through a NFL workout I think that would be like just so people could see like how intense it really is Or NFL practice that'd be cool. Pads helmet hold on I don't think he went or do you have insurance? What are your parents live? I use my mom's insurance because she has benefits Okay, but it just expired, but it's okay. You know, I'm just worried about the death benefit. You fucking die on me And then you know, you don't know faith in me, bro No, no, you don't have faith in yourself. What's the last time you ran full speed? Oh, that's too long. That's too long Anytime you have to think about um That's too long, but what do you be allowed to bring is inhaler? And I don't know anything you want to bring your faith p into whatever you want I don't make you get that bait. I don't make you There are a lot of people in that NFL smoke smoke weed of course, seriously, but then you know with your lungs and shit, don't you Where have you ever seen a study that says marijuana smoke and hurts your ability to build to breathe Just experience no one but we're already have trouble breathing. I've asthma. Yeah. Okay, so that's different Yeah, no, if you have a condition Yeah, I mean Yes, but I think for not only the medical reasons the ability to build a relax and get away from the fame and everything at this point in this stage I think with so many states legalizing it The league is looking at more the benefits for the player Compared to the old stereotypes that society and other sports teams have did you smoke marijuana during your career? For earlier in my career I did and then my last 13 years I didn't drink didn't Because I couldn't handle it. I couldn't handle it. I didn't do well Drugs of me didn't do well with that stage in my life Yeah What was your favorite part about being in that NFL like I've asked a lot of NBA players They say like the money other than the money obviously you made a lot of money. You're very rich and successful for like other than that What did you enjoy? I mean versus the money though. Yeah, yeah I mean the the money's life changing hmm. So which in turn Your brain changes like the things you think about change because what's actually capable now has changed and I think that It really allows you to dream Or visualize all the things you saw as a young person That I could actually do this Like because a lot of famous people I've talked to they visualize their life and their life was a Very similar to the life their living So but once you see it happen you get a picture of a snapshot. It's like Wow, I've seen this like I know this can happen and then then let's just give you enough energy to keep grinding at it Whatever the craft is to become better at it and then which in turn is going to bring you more success would bring you more confidence Confidence breeds success Like if you want to get caught you need success and if you want to as far as if you have a team of people If you want them to have more confidence, you need to make them successful A player nann and I talk about a lot was a former team of yours. He was very confident very successful Mr. Randy Moss. What's your best Randy Moss story? Oh Man, Randy's Randy is it's a he's truly like Like an American support you led you Like he's I've never really seen anyone that has that size. He's six four legitimate six four and a half and can move Laterally jumping ability and pure speed I'm human deon Sanders with the fastest two football players I ever seen and and Seeing that and seeing how different it was in the NFL like it was just it was just so fun to watch Like football was already fun for me. I was already very successful at it But to see him and to see what level he could take the why receiver position Like two like he's one of the guys that I openly admit was a better receiver than me Like he was that kind of guy and I have no problem in admitting that But that's right. I mean his pure talent. I mean, he's funny to oh my god. He's country funny um In Randy Moss legend legend great athlete. He's one of the only few that you would put ahead of yourself Yeah, there's a handful of guys. Yeah For a couple others Jerry Rice is definitely always say Jerry Rice. I would say um Larry Fitzgerald Larry Fitzgerald And then I think all the rest of us are very very close together, but not true. Oh, it's with two realms with very good receiver I don't think it makes sense to me to like his numbers and my numbers are very very compatible Like I don't I don't get anything in life, but tell him the truth like I'm not gonna like that I'm not gonna be like oh no to real orange was not no. He was a great player. Yeah, like he people He people had to create a defense around him like to real orange is not Chad Johnson Okay, like they did play on the same team, but they are not the same species of beast Like to real was a special special player that big that fast the Chad Johnson's on a guy that Could ever you could see could make in the Hall of Fame No, there's a better chance that you guys get in than him. Oh wow. Wow. I'm sure they've been like a week He's not gonna That's not my fault. He's doing nothing to with me. Mm-hmm. It's a numbers game Yeah, because when the people talk about him that they kind of hold him in like very high esteem Do you think that's like perhaps too high? There's rooms in every building. Yeah, but he's just not in the top room with a hall of famous He's in the building. Yeah, put you downstairs podcasting Whatever I don't care when I'm like I think I got nothing to do with the football. Yeah This is about what you did in your NFL career has nothing to do what you do on the mic or anything else No Zero zip zero I asked about the week Yeah, I'll bring it up. I mean it's not it's The Chad knows there's not any debate Now Chad might try to create a circus type atmosphere to create something but Just look at the number Look how many seasons he played look how many balls he called how many yards he had look at how many thousand yards He's yet look at how many touchdowns yet look at how many seasons he had over 10 touchdowns Which was one I had 10 touchdowns six seasons how many pro goals he went just look at Yeah, there's a guy who plays in the same division as him Neon was asking me why he's not getting on the field For our Sanders for the Cleveland Browns Well for one the draft situation put him in a bad spot Like when you mess that up because now They're like lane assignments The draft is just lane assignment the people drafted in in one round one and round two They're gonna have the best lane the people in lane three are gonna have a better assignment than people drafted in round four and five So if we're running the 200 meters in its own occur the people in the first round are getting lanes four and five And the people in the other rounds are getting lanes one and two and seven and eight And they are not going to have they're not gonna win the race It's the same distance, but it's a tougher race And his race is gonna be tougher He can get there. He's gonna get a chance this year to play because I do believe they're not gonna be successful I'm gonna get off to a bad start. They're gonna pull flakko They're gonna put Dylan Gabriel in why because I paid him more money than I paid you And I drafted him higher because Supposedly I had a higher draft grade on now we don't know that I don't think he was on The Browns draft board when they got to the third round because I don't think the Browns would have drafted should do Behind Dylan Gabriel if he was on their board And I do believe when they got back to the fifth round they put him back on the board Yeah, and they said for draft capital He's too good of a player we should take him. Yeah. What did you think of his performance in the preseason? It was up and down what really heard him was that he couldn't follow up the great performance in Carolina the next week because he's heard So then he sits out practice Then he misses the second preseason game and then he comes back in the third preseason game and didn't look good Everybody wants to blame everyone always the coaches fault always the third team was strong man You're a backup in the NFL those guys aren't any good That's why they're backups with you But typically the best of the backups look the best yeah Yeah, a lot of people are like oh he had the Thursday offensive line, but they also the third string defensive ends in people are stupid At the beginning of the day people are stupid. They're idiotic. They see what they want to see and they wanted him to play well But he didn't so that's what you typically see in younger players their performance has go up and down now It's only the preseason and because he went in the fifth round it really you don't have a voice Like he can't go to the coach obviously be like man I really didn't think you guys gave me a chance No, he can't he can't do that So Dylan Gabriel's gonna get in. I think between weeks four and six They're gonna give him a chance. They're gonna give him a few games And then Shador is gonna get a chance before the end of the year Like it's not the best look in the world And then the Browns are gonna be right back in the draft next year with a very good good group of college quarterbacks coming out to see Okay Do we take one of these kids with these other two kids that we have that we drafted from last year? Yeah, that's what the Browns are gonna do because that's what the Browns do What's up with the chiefs you think they're able to bounce back? Could this be another super bowl season for them? Do you think they took a step back? Well people are overreacting to a very good loss To the Chargers now what happened to them in the Superbow we hope they got fixed as far as their offensive line But when you lose right six weeks suspension for something that he deserved Something happened about a year and a half ago It's finally got judicated and everything finally got suspended six game That's gonna hurt him because he's their best receiver then the second third play of the game you lose worthy You have a whole game plan Kelsey takes him out. Yeah, so you have the whole game plan and wrapped around him So you really can't judge them on this game Because they had to adapt in the game with the short receiver list so No, I don't I don't think it's it's Kansas City They have the best coach in the league and they have the best individual player That's an Andy Reed and Patrick my home So they're gonna try to figure out now When the receivers aren't doing well Travis Kelsey can't dominate the game like he does not have that skill level to the used to have a couple years ago Yeah, he could take over game have 150 seven 150 two just a he's his game is not quite right there We kind of like ranked our top five quarterbacks going to the season. I had my homes number one Neon had my homes at five and CJ straddle four Okay, so who's two three four Did Jane Daniels up there? Yeah, number one was I think what do I have a number one? Josh Allen? Josh Allen? Jackson three we're Jane Daniels four straddle five my homes. What would be like your instant reaction to that? Well, I'm not gonna over react to you kids Child's play but Patrick and home is number one because of his accomplishment and his head-to-head against all these guys Right, he's number one and then immediately you got to go to the previous three MVPs Lamar one two of those and Josh Allen I believe Lamar is a better player than Josh Allen his ability to throw the ball anywhere on the field And run Spectacular now Josh Allen being the third quarterback. We're in the age work This might be the best group of quarterbacks that we've ever had top to bottom. So being number three You know, it it's not a bad thing now after that You're really gonna start to have some some real like real real problems to me You know I'm going with Jalen hers All right, he's one he's one at every level And it's not gonna be a numbers game. It's about the quarterback the number one thing is do I get my team on the winning bus? Yeah, they have a great roster in Philly. Yes, do they have great personnel offensively? Yes So if you were starting NFL franchise you would have Jalen first leading your team over Joe Burrow No, no, I didn't say that. I didn't say that we're talking about like right now I believe what he can do in his effect on the game. Yeah, I do believe Joe Burrows at top five and Joe Burrows one of the most spectacular throw was ever but it's about where do you work? But Jalen hurts to getting on the winning bus more It's about where you work. It's about okay Howie Roseman works in Philadelphia. Yeah, where Jalen works So guess what how he works me. He's gonna give him better groceries and better talent to build a work with and shop with Then the Bengals the Bengals spend less money than anyone on scouting and going out and searching for players They've always been one of the lowest spenders and one of the worst as far as overall facilities and taking care of players So it's not the Joe Burrow man. I love Joe. Joe. Joe. Joe. Burrow reminds me of Troy. Aikman. That's what Troy Aikman used to look like Hmm straight dropback and that ball Coming out night. No, I love Joe Burrow, but I think that Jalen People don't respect his game. He's been the two Superbow Joe Burrows been to one Jalen's been to two and then his resume as a champion Joe in college Jalen in college what happened to him in Alabama getting bitch going to Oklahoma that resume I mean that's a strong strong at some point we got to give the kids some credit Yeah, like the kid has a champion championship mentality and he should be not based on the stats in the top five quarterbacks if we have His quarterback the only position you evaluate that way or getting on the winning bus as My it has the biggest quarterback has the biggest role in wins and loss well He's the only one that you can really talk to about that besides the head coach because he's the only one That touches the ball every single offensive play. Yeah, so say we have 120 plays in the game Maybe 135 given special teams typically don't have 60 plays offensively 60 plays defensively 20 play 15 plays special teams If I touch the ball every fucking time. Yeah, yeah, you don't get more credit and more blame. Yeah, yeah, you should I'm a white out. I'm way out there. I might touch it seven times five times No, I can't get all the credit art of blame. I mean we'd like to we talk about it like we are but we'd not and they make the most We make the most noise. Yeah, we like the little yard dog Yeah, we make the most noise Let's talk with your dog. You're telling me a little bit about him. Oh, yeah, I got a couple. I got um I got a little I got a dog out of Russia Name Pablo Pablo Escobar we broke him out of there. Oh, sure. Yeah, he's a little mini palm. He's probably we work like 25,000 but no one he's He's bad. Oh, I feel treated you great. Yeah, and then um I'll just dogs and then I have another one Lola. That's my wife's dog. We got him during the pandemic And she's a normal palm ring and both the white So yes, love my dog. What did you do with your first NFL check? Can I pop your watchin? Um, no, no you could um Actually, I tried to go through one of the sponsors of the team the bank was drawn on that sponsor So typically and NFL you get paid on Monday. Yeah, so we practiced got our paychecks. I mean we're young 21 We heading down on broad street and Philly we I tried to go through the drive through Check was 14,000 not not my signing bonus. This is just my work my first weekly paycheck. It was 14,000 back then Yeah, and um Ladies like sorry, you can't catch this kind of check coming through the drive through us And you have to have an account. No, I said no, this bank this name is on this check I know I play for this team down the street. You guys got the money. I they told me come down here and get it So then I go inside meet the manager tells us it was Carter. Can you open up an account? I was like yeah, I can open up an account. It's like what do you want to do? You want to deposit? I was like no, I want all cash Straight up So I left a straight cash homie Yes, I just leave a little bit just have the The account opening everything. I said don't I need all the cash for the most part leave a little bit They'll count because I'll be back next week. We get paid next week. I'll be back next week. We'll put that one in there Yeah, man I went straight to Atlantic City man. We have one of the nicest rooms at Atlantic City a big heart shaped bed All kind of mirrors apparatus is up in that thing like You got city when Donald Trump was spending the money to revamp Atlantic City. We was trying to help him too So just a short car ride from Philly there. That's the NFL first check Yep Okay, that money got spent fast Nothing much changes in life. Yeah go buy a house go buy a car and then somewhere along the way some ladies are in ball Nothing changes We appreciate your time many any closing thoughts and then you want to get off your chest? No I'm looking forward to the NFL. There's definitely some trends out there that I believe can help people I know this is a betting show and if you're trying to bet a couple things that you should watch The running game has made a resurgence in the national football league because the scouting services have seen That the defenses are very undersized now. They might have a couple big guys defensive tackle But the linebackers are smaller so they can play more past coverage So now you can you can run on them So especially the beginning of the season watch for the unders I know everybody likes betting over and everything watch for the unders in the game And then also watch for if there's more one more time in the game where more points can be scored Watch the first half Because feel position is changed with the new kickoff rule. Yeah, like they're starting closer a better position I think that did you mention that they're starting at the 29 yard line historically Oh, you mentioned the the margin being closer But this is one of the The starting For the offense at the 29 yard line Is probably the furthest offense have ever started NFL history Now they're not scoring more points, but it's allowing the offenses to be on the shorter field So you get two first downs you can kick a field go. Yeah, you know, so that's something that's much better than ever so watch teams try to Get better returners in the return game to take advantage of the new rules and kick it I think Jacksonville traded they're they're running back and a returner to Philadelphia Yeah, and people say why are they trading they got barkley? No, they traded for the return ability Yeah, so there's gonna be a few things going on this year I do believe there's gonna be a few teams of sleepers watch the coach the coach have been very very good The last few years defensively now with Danny Dimes with their new coach They seem like they've matched up a lot like Baker mayfield has done down there in Tampa and that's gonna be interesting I believe right now green base probably the best team in NFL and a lot of people don't want to hear that But green bay the youngest team had a Michael Parsons that young receiving court starting to come along And I do believe that love is gonna play a full season, but green bay to me. That's a hot take The eyeball tests and Michael Parsons is only gonna get better thanks to Jerry Jones You didn't like that trade for the Cowboys. It's one of the worst trades in the history of the NFL If you're gonna trade them you should trade them before the draft where you could have gotten multiple There's a guy um Seattle the Jets remember the jet safety atoms He got traded for three first round picks Small atoms. Yeah, three first-room pick. That's good. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah safety less valuable position Now Jerry keeps it because he's the he's the carnival act. He's the circus guy. Hey come look at the lady with three heads Hey, don't look at our team over there come over here. Hey look over here distraction That's an awful trade and to do it in the NFC Like you're gonna make another team better another franchise better This gonna be in your way of going to the Super Bowl Yeah, like it's it's crazy you do not Let that kind of player go in his prime and now the Packers at late Trutton I mean where I'm with the Vikings man We play him twice a year and that I was not happy at all I was not happy because green Bay is legit and if you've never been the green Bay You talking about a home field advantage Like did you see them get off the ball out of the office line with slow getting off the ball and then and then micro partial was I mean he made so look so was one of the best And this after missing all the training camp when you get that crowd He's gonna be coming off that edge like I couldn't man if I was betting man I'm betting money on green Bay green Bay green Bay especially for the first half of the season Here that and then when it gets cold And then when it gets cold back to under yeah green Bay isn't in that very top echelon either they're underbuff You can still get them over at my bookie dot AG. Yeah, you can still get them absolutely and the Vikings have a really good team Yeah, well, I love what Ryan Flores does with the defense And watch out for um Hardgrave did you see him dominate the first fourth quarter a defensive tackle? I'm blank on the attack pronunciation of his aim but the Vikings GM and the talent that he's brought in javon hardgrave was a great signing Yes, he does a great job. Yes. Yes. He really does him and the head coach Koc. They do a great job there But them in the Indianapolis men or so the people say all Chris is on the purple Yeah, I'm always on some purple drugs always yes And green Bay Packers those are teams that I'll be putting a little if I had a couple of shackles or something Yeah, and you want to use a code double that yes. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah far away Far away. Appreciate you so much man No, you guys gotta get get me back. I gotta come back here. We gotta do something together. We have to stream all three of us We gotta do that workout. I'm I'm gonna really lock it. I'm done. Okay. Get your insurance paid. Okay Tell your mom make sure we get some waiver. Yeah, make sure her black dress is is ironed and dry clean Because she might go into a You said in a fail workout man, do you think I just did NBA workout with Patrick Beverly and I felt I felt great after he put He need to talk to Patrick because Patrick Beverly did not give you the full Patrick Beverly no, no, he was screaming at me. He was on my ass That's he didn't give you the he didn't give you the whole thing of him because man that dude he could be planning an NFL Patrick Beverly like he has that type of mentality. There's only a few NBA guys. It's not the body Yeah, but he has that mentality that I'm better than you. I can stop you. I can yeah He's one of my favorite players, you know as you watch the NBA through the years and everything because he's self-made. Yeah He got it out the dirt back Rock and paper Beverly. I'm done plus this, you know Yeah, that's nice. Oh, thank you That's what does it mean us as a homza is like the hand of peace. Okay, and then in between I got the star of David Okay, yeah, I saw that okay. Yeah nice combination very nice My boy Pat bad was playing over there. Yeah, he was he told me he was about to get signed with the rockets last two weeks He was in Houston and then that he just didn't work out. He didn't have cap space Hmm, they got a good squad Now that's a Houston team. That's winning at all. I know this isn't an NBA thing, but like a man You need to stop winning at all. What about they're gonna be much improved? What about they got a chance to get out of it? I'm going all in. I'm betting on the new one the championship. It's guaranteed That is financial advice by the way That's not financial advice That's so you might as well get where's my lighter just my burn the money Like I think the better bet is for them to make it to the NBA finals That would be a nice wager in the offseason. Yeah, the rockets Now I love their owner um fatada. He does it the right way. Yeah, he does it the right way. I love their coach His resurrection there. They got some good players. Oh, yeah, I love they made that trade though. They're sure I love that without the KD main KD is you relate legend man. You got the same attention. Ladies legend legend Yeah, I appreciate it, man. Of course it's been awesome. Yeah, it's always welcome Now it's time for us to give our my bookie dot AG picks of the week Neon thursday football. We're starting with Chris Carter's Super Bowl pick We got the commanders taking on the Packers acrobat Green Bay minus three and a half the total is at 48 and a half. What do you like here? I'm gonna be honest I would personally go Green Bay money line. I want to go out. I hate the spread. I hate going spread Unless it's like a plus the minus I was get fucked over. I there's always this one better remember With a kicker mr. Fulgo and had the spread and it just fucked me so bad So I'm never going spreads again. I would just go straight up green Bay money line Yeah, I'm gonna go with a teaser here. I'm gonna tease Washington And I'm gonna tease the under so I'm gonna go Washington plus nine and a half We're gonna give Jayden has a lot of points and then we're gonna go under 48 and a half 54 and a half okay, so less than 54 Daniel's nine and a half. I think it's a safe bet Are you always going opposite bro? I Sometimes we can still both win. Yeah. Well, this next one is the one where we both degree. Okay. All right The Super Bowl rematch chiefs and eagles eagles minus one and a half The total is 46 and a half I think we both see these offenses doing a lot better than last week So we want to tease the chiefs and the over so you're gonna get the chiefs plus seven and a half So that way the lose by touchdown you still cash out. We're gonna take over 40 and a half It's not a lot of points both off into slow. I think they heat up this week. I like that. Yeah, we go to the Texans game Yeah, Monday night football Bucks Texans. What do you like here? I'm going bucks money line. All right The Texans fuck me last week. I still love you guys so much But um, I think the bucks take it, you know, Baker Mayfield Texans defense is very good Our old line just sucks dick right now. Um, no offense to all them my bad shit. Putty shouldn't say that um, it's okay But yeah, I'm going I'm going bucks money line. I know it's like minus one one 40. Yeah, still going them. Yeah, yeah I think we take it. Yeah, yeah Texans are favored here. I'm gonna take them. I don't think Houston starts off Oh, and two. I think I think they get it back on track here. We'll see It conclude we gotta go with the drip jack. I'll go first. Let me know what you got on That were these slides last time. I think you did is my favorite slide Most comfortable slides on sponsor. Mary slides are great Target pants. I got this hoodie for free and then a target black shirt under my shit your turn bro Yours is a lot more extravagant um, yeah, I got the rough riders full of chi tea I don't know what they are APs Oh How much of those costs? seriously I just would never like why put 12k to step on fucking the ground. We'll just make it back this week on my bookie. That's true Tap in on my bookie Tap in appreciate y'all watching God bless enjoy the rest of the days