The Best Weekend Talk Show In America April Week One Hour One
37 min
•Apr 3, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Armstrong and Getty discuss the ongoing military conflict with Iran, including a heroic helicopter pilot's actions, Trump's Supreme Court appearance at the birthright citizenship case, and various political developments including Kristi Noem's personal scandal and criticism of Mark Wayne Mullen's plumbing background.
Insights
- Military operations depend on countless small variables going right; a single casualty or equipment failure can doom entire missions despite overwhelming force advantage
- Public opinion and media narrative management are critical constraints on sustained military operations; Trump privately acknowledged the public won't tolerate long timelines for objectives like securing oil
- The 14th Amendment birthright citizenship debate hinges on originalist interpretation of 19th-century intent versus modern realities of global travel and birth tourism
- Cultural contempt for skilled trades and business ownership versus white-collar credentials represents a significant societal attitude problem with economic consequences
- Iran's internal power dynamics likely involve hardliners competing to appear strongest while pragmatists recognize the military situation is untenable
Trends
Originalist constitutional interpretation gaining traction in Supreme Court decisions, shifting from precedent-based jurisprudenceBirth tourism and citizenship arbitrage becoming material policy concern as global mobility increasesErosion of institutional norms around presidential separation of powers (sitting president attending oral arguments)Growing cultural reevaluation of skilled trades and entrepreneurship versus credentialed but unproductive white-collar workMilitary operations increasingly dependent on specialized personnel and vulnerable to single-point-of-failure scenariosPublic fatigue with extended military commitments limiting strategic options despite military superiorityMedia and entertainment industry contempt for non-credentialed business success creating cultural friction
Topics
Iran military conflict and strategic objectivesHelicopter pilot heroism and mission-critical personnelSupreme Court birthright citizenship case and 14th Amendment interpretationBirth tourism and citizenship policyOriginalism vs. precedent in constitutional lawTrump's unprecedented Supreme Court appearancePublic opinion constraints on military operationsMiddle East geopolitics and regional stabilityKristi Noem scandal and personal conductMark Wayne Mullen confirmation and skilled trades perceptionNATO alliance commitments and burden-sharingStrait of Hormuz strategic importanceIran's internal political power strugglesApril Fools Day radio pranks and ethicsTiger Woods DUI arrest and pain management
Companies
iHeartMedia
Podcast distribution platform hosting Armstrong and Getty on demand
People
Donald Trump
Attended Supreme Court oral arguments on birthright citizenship case; discussed military strategy and negotiations wi...
Neil Gorsuch
Questioned attorney about domicile requirements and constitutional interpretation during birthright citizenship oral ...
John Sauer
Argued for Trump administration position on birthright citizenship case at Supreme Court oral arguments
Marco Rubio
Discussed on Hannity regarding NATO burden-sharing and base access for military operations
Kristi Noem
Discussed personal scandal involving husband's bimbification fetish and alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski
Corey Lewandowski
Alleged to have had affair with Kristi Noem during her DHS tenure
Mark Wayne Mullen
Criticized by Jimmy Kimmel for plumbing background; defended as successful business operator by hosts
Emmanuel Macron
Referenced in Trump's private remarks about refusing to send naval support to Gulf operations
Tiger Woods
Trump discussed his recent DUI arrest and pain management issues in conversation with New York Post
Jimmy Kimmel
Criticized Mark Wayne Mullen's plumbing background on his show; criticized for class contempt
Jack Armstrong
Co-host of the Armstrong and Getty show
Joe Getty
Co-host of the Armstrong and Getty show
Quotes
"The success or failure of these military missions hangs on so many tiny little things going right."
Joe Getty•Early segment
"I just don't think people are going to put up with the stock market hit and everything long enough for us to take the oil."
Donald Trump (from leaked private remarks)•Mid-episode
"It's a new world but we have the same constitution."
Neil Gorsuch•Supreme Court oral arguments
"The contempt for regular jobs and the adoration of getting a degree and not even having a job. It's weird."
Jack Armstrong•Mark Wayne Mullen discussion
"He lives a life of pain due to physical injuries, but he's doing great."
Donald Trump (regarding Tiger Woods)•Final segment
Full Transcript
This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington broadcast center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here is Armstrong and Getty. You've tuned in to the best weekend talk show in America. So much to cover this week as always the ongoing conflict with Iraq. The blast off of the Artemis mission. The Scotis Birthright Citizenship case. All pivotal moments in history in all this week. So we do 20 hours of live radio every single week. If you want more of us, Armstrong and Getty, find our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on demand. Now let's get back to the best weekend talk show in America. Iraq went on for eight years, eight months and 28 days. We are in this military operation. So powerful, so brilliant against one of the most powerful countries for 32 days. And the country has been eviscerated and essentially is really no longer a threat. Yeah, I heard somebody make the point yesterday that Iran is a top 20 military in the world. They're nowhere near the United States, but they're not nothing. And we've been like the NCAA tournament. You rarely see a 12-5 upset though in the military rankings. Right, but the idea that it should be over in, I don't know what mainstream media thought or the public, maybe I don't know what the public, how long the public thought the war should last if you go to war with Iran. Of course, there's a number of people have pointed out maybe you should have given the speech selling the war like day one. Absolutely legit point of view. Yeah, I think so too. Maybe I'll do this later, but for instance, I wasn't aware until yesterday how close the whole Venezuela thing came to go in completely sideways and being a disaster. I mean, it came really, really close to being a entirely failed effort. And if that had happened, In what way? Just a nickel version. Well, I can go through it here. Why not? It's pretty damn interesting. It's pretty damn interesting. And the point of that being, if it had, first of all, all military operations, even when you got the upper hand by far can go south because they're very, very complicated and there's lots of moving parts. And secondly, if it had not worked out, I think pretty damned obviously, we wouldn't have been going into Iran. There would have been no public mood for going into Iran. Sure. See if I can find this. There ain't much of one now. I don't know. Well, here's what I got. Oh, you got it. Okay. So and this is the army chief officer that got the presidential medal of freedom at the state of the union address. And Trump gave an abbreviated story about what he did, but he was the lead Chinook helicopter pilot going in with the special forces troops that were going to run in and secure the ground and set up the whole thing. They started firing on us, fired on that helicopter. He took four bullets in the leg and continued to fly his helicopter on the mission, landed it, got the guys off so they could secure the ground so the next helicopters could come in and complete the mission. Then he went up and flew over and his gunman took out the dudes that were shooting at him that almost killed him. He then said to his co-pilot, you need to take over. I'm about to pass out. And they got the helicopter out of there. If one of those bullets had hit him in the stomach or the head or the chest, he goes down, mission's over. Mission is over. I read some analysis of it by a variety of experts that it almost certainly would have failed spectacularly if one of those bullets had killed him or if he wasn't able to continue to fly with four bullets in his legs and everything else like that. And it's just a point that the success or failure of these military missions hangs on so many tiny little things going right. Yeah. Yeah. And at some point we're going to have that in Iran. Maybe we already have. Honestly, four bullets all missing the big arteries in the leg is a bit of a miracle. I find myself surprised that the loss of one helicopter could have doomed the mission like that. But it was a fairly small hit and run mission, so I get it, I guess. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, I could read the whole thing if you want to, but the military people explaining on how that helicopter, getting in there, landing, the guy's getting off to secure this so the next helicopters could land blah, blah, blah. It just, it all hinged on him getting through there and landing. They also didn't know, they didn't think there was any chance he was going to get shot at. Again, the point being that things could go sideways so fast. And as we get further into trying to secure various islands or chunks of land or landing an expeditionary force to get the uranium back or anything like that, we got a long way to go in this war. And if we're already at the, why isn't this overall ready period? I don't know if you can sell a war in the TikTok world lasting very long. You know, this is a bit of a tangent. I think Trump may be a little complicit in that having sold the Euroescapade as a perfect flawless easy and easy out. Don't do that. Tell the people, all right, look, you to, because, you know, the phrase going sideways when you're talking about war, it's, it will. It's just a question of how much and in what way. Have you seen the thing that leaked out yesterday as Trump speaking to a private group? Don't think so. Yeah. I hadn't heard about it until last night and I started watching and it's about an hour long. I got about a halfway through it. It's pretty darned interesting. So he's, it's not like private, private, like he's at a dinner with four other people. He's in a like a ballroom, little room there at the White House with what looks like, I don't know, 60 people and he's standing at a podium talking to him, but it's a private thing of all friends. Vance is there and Bondi and then staffers and then Erica Kirk is there and just, it's all friendly. It's supposed to be behind closed doors, private. They recorded it because they record everything, I guess, and somehow posted it to the public site very briefly. Some journalist grabbed it, downloaded it, and then it disappeared from the public site. So it wasn't meant for public eyes. And it's really interesting to hear Trump talk in a completely different voice. Just his manner is so different. Halpern posted it on his newsletter today and he said, it's both interesting how different he sounds when he's speaking to friends privately and how the same he sounds. I mean, both are true. His information was the same. The way he talks was a lot different. But anyway, at one point, the reason I brought this up was he said, we really should take the oil. I mean, he said, that was my big complaint with Bush is that we went to Iraq and we didn't take the oil. Why didn't we take the oil? He said, I think we'd take the oil and Iran, but I'm not sure the country's got the stomach for the timetable. He said, I just don't think people are going to put up with the stock market hit and everything long enough for us to take the oil. So I guess we'll see. I thought that was pretty interesting. He's aware that public opinion is not on the side of this and that the timetable is really short. Michael, let's hear 54 from the speech last night. Our armed forces have been extraordinary. There's never been anything like it militarily. Everyone is talking about it. And tonight I'm pleased to say that these core strategic objectives are nearing completion. And then he continues the thought. And we are going to finish the job and we're going to finish it very fast. We're getting very close. I want to thank our allies in the Middle East, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, Kuwait, and Bahrain. They've been great and we will not let them get hurt or fail in any way, shape, or form. So how did Iran think of the speech? Well, here you go. Meanwhile, Iran is responding to the president's speech last night by really doubling down, firing several missiles at Israel overnight, ballistic missiles. So far, most have been intercepted. However, we do know that some injuries have been reported. Iranian officials are also rejecting any ceasefire and vowing further retaliation after President Trump warned the U.S. will hit the country. And I quote, extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. You're going to bomb them back to the Stone Age, but you got to open the Strait of Hormuz, which came up in the news yesterday. The UK prime minister is leading a virtual summit today of 35 countries to try to build some kind of consensus on military or diplomatic efforts to reopen the Strait. Obviously, a response to that strong pressure from President Trump. But you heard Secretary Rubio say on Hannity the other night that, you know, if these countries are not going to allow the U.S. to use those bases when it needs to, then NATO is a one-way street and the troops are only in Europe for the defense of Europe, not for American interests. That's the message here from the White House. We have had troops in Europe for a very, very long time, specifically to defend your countries from being invaded. It wasn't for our benefit. Yeah, I also have a reference to the humiliation that the Brits are experiencing right now because they can't get their aircraft carrier, either one of them, up and running. They're in such terrible shape. They spend 60% of their time in dry dock getting fixed or in wet dock being fixed, but they don't have parts. They don't have the expertise to fix it. Their navy has been reduced, according to British media accounts, to utterly unable to project force in any significant way. That's a quote. Just sad. I thought this was darn interesting because, you know, the conversation of is there negotiation going on? Oh, wait, wait, wait. Before we move on for that, because that's very important. Can't resist this. Speaking of NATO and our allies, 18, Michael. Then I call up France, Macron, whose wife treats him extremely badly, and still recovering from the right to the jaw. And I say, Emmanuel, we'd love to have some help in the Gulf, even though we're setting records and knocking out bad people and knocking out ballistic missiles. We'd love to have some help. If you could, could you please send ships immediately? No, no, no. Can not do that. Don't know. We can, we can do that after the war is won. I said, no, no, I don't need after the war is won, Emmanuel. Many of them said we'll be there after the war is completed. That's from that thing I was talking about, that private leaked out luncheon thing that he had. We made a joke about Macron, so a lady beaten him up. Still recovering from that right to the jaw. And then he says, he sees Erica Kirk sitting there and he says, oh, hey, Erica, I didn't know you're here. He said, I'll tell you what, what they're saying about you is awful. I'd sue their asses off if I were you. Sue their asses off. That's what Trump told her. I've got some examples of that for later, but back to your. Uh, so. A lot of mainstream media claiming that Trump's lying about this whole negotiating thing that there's not actually any negotiations going on and who's with all that. And I don't know who it's with, but this came out yesterday. It was just a few hours before the address Iran's president penned a letter to the American people saying that Iran is not a threat. In fact, he called the United States the aggressor. And he says continuing along the path of confrontation is more costly and futile than ever before. President Trump earlier, he claims that the Iranian president wants a ceasefire, but a spokesperson for Iran's president says their country is determined to fight on. He penned a letter. Did he saying that they're not a threat to the United States? Can I pen a letter back to him? I don't know his address. Dearest president of Iran, you have been chanting death to America from your podium. My entire life signed me. What do you mean? Actually killing Americans every chance you get. So shut up. Well, I heard one of my favorite pundits talking about running into some military guys in the bar and he was interested that all of the former Iraq, Afghanistan veterans of those wars were gung ho about this because they all had had friends hurt or killed by Iranians. All of right. So they were gung ho about this. Yeah, that is interesting. All those roadside bombs and you know all the lost limbs and lost life and everything like that. Those were bombs either developed by or completely made by and helped by Iran all those years. Yeah. Yeah. I wish there were any sort of honest discussion about this going on in a way that people would actually hear and think about because you know it to say this is going to happen is ridiculously premature. But if this is successful, even like substantially successful, it could usher in an ear of peace and stability in the Middle East for decades to come decades to come in a way that we've never seen before. All the stars are aligned for that. And the last thing that needs to be accomplished is to neuter Iran and make them cut it out. For what it's worth in discussing the President of Iran's letter and everything, the book may never be written. But man, I would like to know what the internal power struggles are like right now. As I would guess, everybody is trying to come off as the hardest, hard ass that's ever hard ass. Meanwhile, but I still think maybe we should talk to the Americans, but I'm a hard ass. I'm a serious hard ass, but we're getting killed. So I mean, that's got to be vexing. I don't envy them. Yeah, we're probably the bombs falling on their heads. I don't envy that either. I saw any news coverage yesterday of the Kristi Noem's husband, Bimbification story. Apparently we still have some decorum and standards where we just don't get into stuff like that on the serious shows because I didn't. I didn't see it anywhere. Did you? I don't think it's of any great significance other than being interesting from sexual kink perspectives. There's lots of stuff that makes the news of no, no great significance. Like most of it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, almost all of it. Yeah. So I just was surprised nobody did it. So apparently the meme is going around the Marco Rubio finding out meme that has been going for quite some time. Marco Rubio finding out he's now the quarterback of the, you know, the Green Bay Packers. The New York Jets. And I'm sitting on the couch in his uniform. We're not finding out he's the new Shah of Iran. Marco Rubio finding out he's now Kristi Noem's husband, but it's a picture of him in pink spandex looking at a giant bra, confused. I've seen a couple of different versions of that. Yeah. Uh, Bimbification. So Kristi Noem, who was the Department of Homeland Security Secretary up until a couple of weeks ago. Ice Barbie. And there are all the rumors, which seem to be pretty fact based that she was having an affair with Corey Lewandowski, which was Trump's original campaign manager that got him elected way back in 2016. Anyhoo. And then you had the weird thing of Kristi Noem being grilled by Congress and her husband sitting right behind her. As Congress asked her about the affair. Well, she, he had left at that point to catch a plane to probably a Bimbification conference. More on that, stay with us. And that's why we know anything about Kristi Noem's husband really is that he was sitting behind her at that grilling, just awkward all the way around. Anyway, story breaks yesterday and whether or not Kristi Noem knew about it herself, I'm still skeptical. She's claiming the family had no idea they were completely blindsided when all these pictures came out of him dressed in really tight tops with giant, giant balloons or something under his shirt to look like enormous boobs and his tiny little shorts. And it's some sort of kink called Bimbification, which I don't know that I'd ever heard of. And he corresponded hundreds and hundreds of messages with adult performers with massively augmented breasts to achieve a Barbie dial like appearance. No, it's Barbie dial like it doesn't begin to describe it. No, and he didn't try to hide who he was at all. And these proclaim he coveted huge, huge, ridiculous boobs. That's a quote. He was willing to share these pictures with his face well lit and very clear who he was with all kinds of random people who were into Bimbification. Jack, his face is fully visible in several of the photos, one with a completely straight visage and others making a flirtatious kissy face with pursed lips. Back to you. I feel like the tiny little pink shorts are more offensive than the giant bazoombas. Guy's successful insurance executive. He sent some of these performers over $25,000 via cash app and PayPal as tips as they would, you know, do whatever he bid or engage in whatever conversation. Ian Christie been married for 34 years, like high school sweetheart, sort of couple. He traded selfies with one woman. He pledged to worship like a goddess telling her, quote, you turn me into a girl. Before asking if he should put on leggings. But he's straight. Wish he's straight as far as we can tell. I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's not really a straight guy thing to do. Those little pink shorts don't seem very straight, but I don't I might not fully understand Bimbification. This is the best weekend talk show in America. Trump has left the Supreme Court. CNN says Trump leaves Supreme Court as just as just as express deep skepticism of his birthright citizenship case, which we'll get into more of that in a second. But apparently that's the first time a sitting president has ever attended the Royal arguments ever in our nation's history. Wow. You're not supposed to be able to leave unless I mean, you can't once you're in there, you have to stay in there. Yeah, you can't come and go from the Supreme Court. You've got to assume that doesn't apply to a president during wartime. What if I go make some decisions on the whole war? You got to stay till lunchtime. Sorry. Just the rules. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is texting me. Your phone's supposed to be off, buddy. Okay. What did you have to go really, really bad? What if you raise your hand and say, excuse me, Mr. Chief Justice, I got to go bad. It's going to be, I mean, it's either here or in the bathroom. I'll leave that critical decision up to you, Your Honor. I wonder if Trump is going to say something about what he was hearing from some of the justices he appointed. He's going to, you said he said some bad things about the justices last night. I didn't hear any of that. Oh, it was terrible. I think we have, I thought we had that tape at audio. I don't see it. They're arguing whether over the whole birthright citizenship thing applies the way it is being applied. Anybody that comes to this country, you have a baby here. They're a U.S. citizen with all the rights and services, taxpayer-funded services that come with that for the rest of their lives. Up to and including some birth tourist, Chinese oligarchs surrogate, who as I put it in delicately earlier in the show, gets off a plane, squats on the tarmac at LAX, pops a kid, and then gets back on the plane, goes back to China. That kid's a U.S. citizen. I would care a lot less if we weren't such a welfare state. But you get into this country any way you can, and you have a kid here, that kid now, I have to feed in the house and Medicaid and take care of their medical bills for the rest of their life as a taxpayer. Correct. What kind of deal is that? Well, we take care of illegals too in the blue states, but what are you going to do? You're going to vote in the next election. Anyway, are we ready for a little audio? Just to give you a sampling of what it sounded like, this is my man, Neil Gorsuch, with the advocate for the administration's position. Whose domicile matters? I mean, it's not the child, obviously. It's the parents you'd have us focus on. What if, is it the husband? Is it the wife? What if they're unmarried? Whose domicile? In the executive order, it draws a distinction between the mother and the father. That's really the mother's domicile. I think that would matter. Well, but 1868 matters, you're telling us. So what's the answer? The 1868 sources talk about parental, not aware of them drugging a signature between mother or father, but they say that the domicile, the child follows the domicile of the parents. And how are we going to determine domicile? I mean, would we use contemporary sources on what qualifies as domicile in a state, or do we look in 1868? And do we have to do this for every single person? And again, I don't see a strong distinction between those because, of course, domicile is a high level concept has been pretty consistent over centuries, which is lawful presence with the intent to remain permanently that domicile. When you've come to a new nation, you say, I'm here for it to stay, you become part of their political community and you become akin to a citizen. And that's reflected very strongly in the case I cited before. John Sauer is a brilliant attorney with a terrible voice. He really needs some sort of AI system. The concept of domicile is a high level theory. Between his voice and my not being particularly bright, I didn't really get much out of that. Well, yeah, it's not a question of bright. I was regretting not setting it up more thoroughly as I was listening to that. The question, oh man, I don't even want to get into the weeds. The question is, is the person passing through or do they live here? And that's a distinction that the lawyers are saying matters. Because the law was never, or I'm sorry, the 14th Amendment was never intended to reflect somebody who like came into do business with a cotton company and then immediately sale back to England. I'm sorry, the guy with the horrible voice, was he arguing for the president's side or for the other side? So he's arguing for the president's side that people shouldn't be able to come here. And that it was all about slavery and we don't have slaves anymore. So this is all stupid. Right. Yeah, essentially. Let's go with clip 103 where he's explaining that there are all sorts of weird wrinkles in how people come to have kids in this country. There are 500, 500 birth tourism companies in the People's Republic of China whose what business is to bring people here to give birth and return to that nation. Having said all that, you do agree that that has no impact on the legal analysis before us? I think it's, I'd quote what Justice Glea said in his Hamdan dissent where they had, like their interpretation has these implications that could not possibly have been approved by the 19th century framers of this amendment. I think that shows that they made a mess, their interpretation has made a mess in the provision. Well, it certainly wasn't a problem in the 19th century. No, but of course we're in a new world now, Justice Glea pointed out to where 8 billion people are one plane right away from having a child who's a US citizen. Well, it's a new world. It's the same constitution. It is and as Justice Glea said, I think in the case that Justice Lido was referring to, you've got a constitutional provision that addresses certain evils and it should be extended to reasonably comparable evils. He said that about statutory interpretation, I think the same principle applies here and I think we quote that in our brief. So Gersh is saying it's a new world but we have the same constitution. He's making the argument that drastic changes in, for instance, the ability to travel shouldn't matter? No, it's funny. It struck me and I'm learning more and more about law school because my daughter is in it right now that a lot of classes, you do your reading and there might be a lecture or whatever, then the professor says, Mr. Armstrong and you stand up and you're like, oh boy, they say and they ask you a proper question like that. You know, it's still the same constitution. Why would we change the interpretation just because of the presence of air flights? And you've got to explain yourself and your understanding of law and that sort of thing. And so it strikes me that the oral arguments are like a law school class a lot of the time. They're just quizzing the lawyer on, help me think through this. Think, you know, think through this. I didn't get Robert's point, honestly. What the administration is saying is that the world has changed so wildly that the court decision subsequent to the 14th Amendment in 1898 and 1910 and whatever else, they're irrelevant now. We've got to go originalist and look at the framing of the 14th Amendment. What did they mean? Not what some court in 1898 thought they probably kind of meant in the modern world. No, we've got to go back to the source and look at the source as the only lens through which we look at the modern interpretation. Why do you think Trump was in the courtroom today? I don't know. Part of me thinks he was, he wanted to intimidate a little bit or remind some of those justices. I appointed you. All right. I'm your daddy. I just wouldn't. Who's your daddy? I'm your daddy. And part of me just thinks he thinks it's really, really important and he wanted to hear it. That second part could be true, although that would have been true for lots of presidents in cases they wanted to turn out a certain way and they didn't show up over there. Yeah. The tradition was you would never do that because it could be seen as one branch interfering with the other branch or intimidation or whatever. I can't imagine that. I'm not sure I buy it entirely. He doesn't have any power to intimidate anybody though. He can't remove them. He can't damage them in any way. Well, if he whips up like the MAGA base against them, it could physically be dangerous or undermine the court, which I know Roberts is really concerned about. I don't know how he could whip up the MAGA base against them any more than the people who hate Trump have whipped it up against justices on the conservative side already. You know, the funny thing about Trump is he's so precedent upsetting in a lot of ways that when he upsets precedent, it's just, it's not that big a deal. I mean, no sitting president has ever attended Supreme Court oral arguments on a case that he was party to. Yeah, well, he does all sorts of crap. Yeah. And it just happened and how shaken does the world seem to be? I'm looking around. I think we're okay. I'm not saying I like it, but... So it's April 1st. You know, you do on April 1st, you go to a loved one who you have earned their trust over many, many years of being a certain kind of person. Then you say something crazy to them that's a lie that causes them... Perhaps disturbing, frightening, sickening. Yes, it causes them some unpleasant feeling. And then you say April Fools. You say to your husband, I've been thinking about it and I want a divorce. And then when he's done crying or whatever, you say April Fools. Right. It's funny. Maybe tell your little kid, maybe tell your little kid you're moving and you're gonna have, you're never gonna see your friends again. And then you say April Fools. I'm just doing this routine because I've, from a child, I've never understood April Fools. I just have never understood why if you do something and I react scared or hurt or whatever, that I'm a fool. I'm the fool for believing you. You're only introducing terrible things that turn out not to be true because that's almost a happy ending. How about really good things that you then reveal? Nope, it's not happening. You fool. Schools out today, kids. Schools out today. You can play all day. Ah-ha, April Fools. Get ready for school. Katie, do you ever work in any radio stations where it was sort of obligatory that you did some sort of April Fools prank? I feel like Joe and I did that way back in the day. I don't even hardly remember though. 103 Rock is now 103 country playing all your country. Meanwhile, the country station across the street is 103 country and 101 country is now 101 Rock. And all your linters are outraged and they call and they're angry and you say, ah-ha, we're kidding. I worked for a station that decided to fire the morning show on April 1st though and being the phone screener during that debacle and trying to explain, no, this isn't a joke. What? Yeah. That was bad timing. Yeah, no kidding. You're giving the history of morning radio. Didn't we do the fake parade thing once? That's kind of a thing lots of people did. Oh, yes, we did. I think we did that once. It was kind of fun. Have you ever heard that before, Katie? No. We pretend there's a big April Fools parade downtown and you go live down there and there's bands and all this and there's no parade. We describe the floats going by. Are you serious? It's kind of fun. This was years ago, yeah. Yes, Michael. You guys don't remember the April Fools joke you did? Oh, right. I actually do. Yeah. Michael tell the story before we go to break. I had just started with the show. And what happened? Okay, thank you. Glad I asked to go. Yeah, I had to reach over to Craigs. Michael Henry's over in nudge glad I said that. She fell asleep. I'm sure she's alive. I was with the show maybe eight weeks and I'm running the board for them and they're doing their thing and they pretend to get in a fight, I believe. And they said- Better argument. Better argument and they storm out. They said that's it. We're not doing this anymore. They just left me there. Right in the middle of a segment. Yeah. Forgotten that. What did you end up doing? I can't remember. I don't know if I cracked the mic or if I went to a commercial or just I just I can't remember. Oh my gosh, this audio has to be somewhere. It's on a reel somewhere. Oh, yeah, like really a reel of tape. But that is similar to what I was mocking before. So here's some people that I work for. We're now going to make it clear that you can't believe anything we say or that we think cruelty to you causing emotional pain for our for our pleasure is perfectly on the table. This stress. Terrible stress, gut wrenching stress. You're a young person. You've got a job. Oh my god. I just met you guys. I really I didn't know them very well at all. Well, we were horrible people. Now you feel like coming you guys knock it off. We are much better people now I think. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Less fun, evidently, listening to you. We're less fun people. Oh my god. But I apologize on behalf of younger me. Oh, I still look back at it with joy. There you go. Decided to call this the best weekend talk show in America. And if you like it, download Armstrong and Getty on demand. So I actually haven't heard this. I've only read people's complaints about it. So we're about to hear it. Last week, Jimmy Kimmel, who has a late night talk show, I guess was making cracks about the fact that Senator, former Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is now the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and comes from a plumbing background, which I guess is mockable in Jimmy Kimmel's world. Here's what it sounded like. Don't worry, Trump's got a whole new generation of thinkers lined up, including his newly confirmed Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave, Mullen. Mount maybe Mellon's better. He is the now former Senator of Oklahoma. Before he was elected to the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullen was a low-level MMA fighter and a plumber. That's right. We have a plumber protecting us from terrorism now. Mark Wayne Mullen took over his family plumbing business when his dad was sick and turned it into a business from, I think it was three employees, something like that, to 200 or 300, managing changes in technology, personnel, regulation, growth, blah, blah, blah. He's an idiot, Jimmy. You're way smarter. Well, this is the backlash that it received from certain quarters. Even if Mark Wayne Mullen was just a regular plumber, who I think on average they make like $200,000 a year, what? Your bachelor's degree in something or other that nobody's ever heard of and you've done nothing with would be better somehow. What does that come from? Well, in a clever entertainer having contempt for a guy who ran a huge plumbing business, explain that one to me, Jimmy. Go ahead. I have time. Well, the tittering of the crowd though also, it's just that we, we all know we've talked about this for years. The contempt for regular jobs and the adoration of getting a degree and not even having a job. It's weird how not even having a job is held up above a lot of jobs. Well, in getting a useless degree at a grade-inflated university that doesn't teach you anything and then getting some sort of low-paying cubicle job as a result is admirable and lauded and the guy running a giant plumbing business is a fool. That's just, I just, I can't dislike these people enough. Yeah. A lot of things, it doesn't matter to me. You know, think that all you want. Enjoy your life. You're going, you're wrong. But as a cultural attitude, it's really bad for the country. So that, that's where, that's where it bothers me. It needs to, it needs to be changed. I think Mike, Mike wrote it a lot of good work on that over the last couple of decades. Just changing that attitude of how is preparing yourself for nothing than doing nothing better than going out and doing an actual job. Right. Right. Yeah. I agree. Obviously. Coming up a little final dissection of the No Kings rallies, which I think were a ridiculous exercise in virtually nothing, but Jack tells me there is pushback. But first, inexplicable, are you kidding me? Trump slash Tiger Woods news. President Trump has told the New York Post that he spoke with Gullfer Tiger Woods following his latest DUI arrest in Florida, saying the legendary athlete lives a life of pain due to physical injuries, but it's doing great. I've talked to him. I think he's doing great. He's doing good. He said he tested negative for alcohol, as you know, and he is under a tremendous physical pressure from his various ailments. You know, the back and the leg, he lives a life of pain. He has a lot of pain. He's an amazing guy. He's an amazing athlete. He does have pain. He doesn't have an alcohol problem, but he does have pain. Don't drive, dude. Do whatever you want. Anything you want. Just don't kill a little kid on her bike, all right? And you don't know in advance when you're going to do that. So stay the F out from behind the wheel, Tiggy.