No Surprise: Another Trans Lunatic Mass Shooter - PLUS Under Secretary of State Sarah Rogers

Stop, Gerald. Don't make me happy, then I can't do the show. Glad to be with you. Gerald likes to make me miserable before I do the show because he thinks I'm sharper. He thinks the hate keeps me warm. And today that's going to come in handy because I'm getting too old for this. Here we go again, whatever sequel cliche line you need. Another trans shooter. But don't worry, it has nothing to do with being trans and there's no association with mental illness. And as of Mission Control, make sure that I'm still correct. as of the time of this broadcast, still no mention at many of the major outlets that this shooter was trans and deranged. So we're going to get into that, the ins and outs, what you need to know. There is fake news out there, as is the case with all of these events now, unfortunately. Outside of that, we have a very special guest today, the Undersecretary of State, Sarah Rogers, who has been on a mission, really over there in Europe, tidings of free speech and some initiatives that are important. And you're also going to hear her quote somebody else and use the word, which is how I like my undersecretaries to be. I really like it when they use the word. So enjoy the show. What is overpaying on your taxes feel like? Hey, good job this morning, Billy. About like that. Don't let the IRS bust your balls. Visit tnusa.com slash Crowder or call 1-800-958-1000 for immediate relief and expert guidance. Move. I'm going to speed it. Glad to be with you. We have to keep good time today because we have the Undersecretary of State, Sarah Rogers, on the show. She's hilarious. She is hilarious. It's funny. It's a very serious position. It's a very serious title. And she's actually funnier than many guests we've had who are supposed to be funny. So we'll see. At least in the clips. I don't know. Maybe she has to be more subdued today. But let me ask you this. With the shooting, question of the day, what patterns are you noticing with the shooters? Nothing. We'll go through that today as we do all weekdays, 11 a.m. Eastern. Captain Morgan, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm doing well. Yeah. Huge. Yeah. I was going to say, your missus had a question for you last night, and so did my lady. I said, yes, noodles is a problem. Weird, yeah. I don't know. We had to lower the water in the toilets because he kept complaining. Every time he sits down, that thing just dips right in. Yeah, we had to change the right angle of the pipes. Yeah, that's awful. We were like, it's a submarine. It's my cross to bear. We had to install urinals with a stepladder. So he can get all the way up there. He has to wear Ipsy hammer pants. That's enough, guys. We went fishing last week. I used noodles as an angle. Oh, come on. Hey, now. Head the bait. Ew. That was out of line. That was out of line. Just dangles a glow worm. Yeah, exactly. All right. Friday, Saturday, March 20th, 21st at the, oh, Summit Comedy, Summit City Comedy Club in Fort Wayne, Indiana, not underscore Firestein. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. And, Billy, we do have the other mic, because I know we had several people in the studio we had off, right? Is that other? I'm just making sure. You want me to use two mics? No, no. I don't need you. You don't need it. No. Come on. It's one mic per person. Yeah. That's it. All right. Don't be selfish. All right. So this first thing, though, and I want you to comment below, particularly if you are a Christian, particularly if you're a Protestant Christian in the United States. Have you noticed the wolves in sheep's clothing? And we talked about Nala Ray, for example. There's a real trend now for people to sort of build, in some cases, what may be false testimonies. It used to be you went through a transformative experience. experience, you sat in the pew for a while, you learned, and then you may be able to reach people who had similar experiences or had walked a similar path of sin before redemption. Now there's a really quick turnaround to sell a course that leads people down a distinctly anti-biblical road. So this is one that I found, I don't even know how I stumbled across it. It does all of those things as well as embarrasses a real life husband on social media in the name of modern Christianity. See if you can spot the problem. What my husband did to bring me back after I cheated on him for another man for another man. Yes. and here's what she wrote on her profile. She wrote, Here's what many people get wrong. Yes, God restores, he heals, he renews. And as much as there's a part only God can do, there's a part we have to do. My husband didn't just pray and wait. He obeyed. He sought godly counsel. He invested in mentorship and support. He allowed himself to be stretched, corrected, and refined. You almost think he's the one who's out there cheating. Yeah. He confronted himself with discomfort, the discomfort that you were committing adultery, and learned how to lead me away from committing adultery. Love me in spite of your adultery and stand firm in truth in ways he never had before in the face of adultery. It wasn't easy, she writes, because he committed adultery. It was humbling, I guess, because he committed adultery, so it was embarrassing. It's deeply uncomfortable adultery does that, but his obedience didn't just restore a marriage. It saved our family from your adultery. Now, to be clear... That's a much better synopsis of what happened. If you scroll down the lunchbook, And then he was going to, he was using prostitutes, and that would seem. She also discussed how they had an open marriage. So they had an open marriage, both of them making mistakes, but then she was going to leave and fell in love with another man, and it's incumbent upon the man to correct it. This brings us to the bio there. By the way, I think she actually got divorced, right? They did. They divorced. Got divorced and then got back together. So it was like she didn't just like go and like, you know, have an adulterous affair or something like that. Or so she like actually left divorced, gone, done. And their kids, by the way. And fell in love with another man. She made sure to mention that a lot on her page that she fell in love with another man. Never mentions falling out of love, which is interesting. Yes, is very interesting. And mentions that, you know, she was the one who left him repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly. And the good news is you can there's some kind of a course. Yeah, she sells a course. Yeah, there's some kind of a course. She can teach your husband how to give good massages and how to keep his wife. Yeah. Because, you know, this is the man's job to fix, just to be clear. The bio reads, restoring marriages after adultery that she committed, supporting women to soften after, I guess, the woman commits adultery, equipping men to lead after the woman commits adultery on him, equipping men to lead after you committed adultery and posted about it. equipping them so like like a two by four with a nail in it she means by equipping men to lead she means you know telling him hey when i cheat you have to bring me back right right yeah how about um how about you work this is a thing too with with marriages how about you work on you and he'll work on him it's really a simple equation now the thing that most women in the church or many women in the church don't like is that even if he's not working on himself, it's still not, if you subscribe to the Bible, still not your place to tell him how to work on him. And it's certainly not your job to equip him with the tools that's between him and God and the men who hold him accountable. And it's certainly not your job to equip him after you have repeatedly committed adultery and embarrassed him all over social media in spite of the courses that you want to sell. Are any women buying this? Are you understanding why men are checking out of the dating pool. Comment below. Do you guys, do you guys see this? This is the problem with the modern sort of feel good self-help. You can say it's a non-denominational church. Yeah. The Protestant church really does get a lot of things wrong. Unfortunately, I like the idea of a Protestant church that has a little bit more freedom, but I hate it when you completely run away from tradition and you completely go for stuff like this, like this new age idea of what a relationship with God is. By the way, I scrolled and I tried to find, I don't, I don't have an Instagram account personally but i tried to find so maybe it's there and i couldn't her saying here's what i did to work on me oh it's not there here's my problem that it's either joint with or him it seems it's joint everything was for him related yeah it's mostly him related well like we made mistakes but he had to go work on him i'm like what wait wait a minute what you literally divorced your husband and left for another man where is the i screwed up part right she fell in love with another man she didn't just leave for another man she fell in love she's still in love well the good news is she has if you find yourself in a situation like this where a woman cheats on you falls in love with another man abandons you and your family the good news is there is hope for you if you uh subscribe to this course and if you follow her advice for example here is some advice that she gives to men on how to prevent cheating or the withholding of sex should your wife be doing so yeah make sure you get the yeah make sure you get the breast in there uh she writes and she's like half german has your wife ever shut down when you approached her or even when you were in the middle of being close to each other there are many reasons for this i will not get into it right now but here are three things you can do as a loving husband to tend your relationship so it can be long-lasting fruitful covenant you both desire number one during the day no matter if you are at work or some this is this is advice towards men by the way during the day no matter if you are at work providing a roof and protection which i will abandon and take half somewhere away or if you are both in the same place make sure to create moments of connection and safety for her a hug a smile a deep gaze into each other's eyes or prayer this is part of your intimacy that will set the tone for many more things you experience together he's coming home getting the bedroom. Now that's an extreme example to make a point, but which one would be more biblical? Let's go, all of it is advice to men. Men work on men and then women work on men. Here's another one about the biggest lies about sex, according to her, biblically, that you shouldn't fall for. The biggest lie about sex and marriage, and you probably believe that, Oh, boy. She writes, the biggest lie about sex in marriage, and you probably believe it. Okay, here are four. Number one, sex is a duty for the wife or husband. Number two, these are lies, according to her. Oh. Number two, sex is a transactional thing. You do X and I give, get Y. Number three, it isn't so important and totally overrated. Number four, the wife gives her husband sex, and if not, he goes somewhere else to get it. Well, no one said that. Well, that's the opposite. Let's deal with the first one, because she doubles down on that. So first of all, it is not a duty, but designed for you to be a gift in your marriage. If you don't want to do it, but somehow feel like you have to, you're doing something wrong. Let me take you to 1 Corinthians 7, verse 3 through 5. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife. And likewise, the wife to her husband. Does that say feeling? Oh, it says marital duty. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but yields it to her husband. Getting kind of clear now. in the same way the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time so that you may devote yourself to prayer then come together again i mean like that immediately come back together so that satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control so not only is it described as a duty not only is it reiterated as a duty it's contextually reiterated without even using the word duty saying that your own body is not under your authority but your husband's and vice versa then then the Bible goes on to say, and contextually, if you both agree to it, for example, maybe a time of prayer and fasting, just like denying yourself sweets, which isn't in and of itself evil, of course, these things God can create for good. If you both agree, immediately go back, because pragmatically, you are more likely to stumble or be tempted if you're denying either of your spouse sex. It is a duty. You need to do it. So let me just take... That sounds awful, by the way. I know. Coming together and agreeing to have a sex fast. like that's like that's like coming together and asking hey you want to have leftovers tonight yeah no sometimes you come together you make the game sometimes there's also a coach play things out women we can likes you're like all right um i love that by the way i just want to go back to her quote the first thing she starts off with is a complete biblical lie it's a lie it's not a duty it's not it's not an accident it's not something that she mistook and she misunderstood it is a 100 biblical life somebody does something like this immediately discount everything they say after that and move on down the road yeah don't sign up for the course if it's 49.99 but wait it literally says ignore god's command yes and go with your feeling and by the way your feeling is dependent on does he create moments of safety and intimacy while he's at work and he should be working so i'll give you two examples sex is a gift actually it's not a duty if you don't feel it something's wrong okay that's hers i'm gonna give you an extreme example to make a point i'm gonna ask you a question okay he says he wants to do it open your legs and show your husband sexual gratification which one is more in line with the biblical description of a sexual duty of a spouse and the same for she comes home she's into it you're not sorry brother you gotta you gotta go you gotta pony up dude you gotta go yep which one is more biblical because only one is offensive to almost half the protestant congregation yeah the people who buy these courses this is a bigger problem than uh leftism in a lot of ways because the enemy is inside the house and i show you this too you know you know by fruits of the tree and i i get it people can make mistakes and they can be redeemed But that what they hoping as you get hooked with The Lord can restore marriages So someone goes well great I'm listening, and none of it is your fault. He has to do all of it. Ah, that is as anti-biblical as it gets. But we can also look at some other bangers she has on her profile, like this one about falling for another dude. Again, very public and describing and embarrassing her husband. what i wish i knew as a wife in the season of not wanting sex with my husband almost divorcing and falling out of love with a man i thought she was terrible and then the chorus in the caption is all about how he needs to do something better and then here's another one by the way um because she wants you to know that she had the jezebel spirit yes and it left her but what a nice excuse that is yeah it was oh i was i wasn't a skank no no i was possessed oh don't shut the hell up don't jezebel shame me i didn't like any of the sex i had i don't think about it anymore the man i fell in love with and never talk about anymore. It's Jezebel liberation. It was Jezebel's fault, not mine. But then she even shows you, like right now, this Christian woman who offers up these courses or whatever it is, email, newsletters. She wants you to really see the new Christian she is by showing you the transformation of Jezebel leaving her body. Watch the Jezebel spirit leave me. I didn't know what I was playing around. Then I got saved and I became a disciple of Jesus Christ. now I can only share the gospel and expose and destroy the enemy's work all glory to our Lord and his grace amen your tits aren't the gospel I can only share the gospel I usually don't have to issue a warning if you have children there for a gospel message yeah not typically I mean be warned the Jezebel's spirits are in the room I don't see twerking and gospel typically not so much I mean even at this point I'm like you know what bring back snake handling. That's better. Everybody puts on a facade for social media. We know that because it's not reality. Here's how the Jezebel spirit really left her body. What did you do that? Oh, my God. See, that doesn't go over as well on the gram. That was something else. Or the talk. But, you know, here's the thing. If she really did change her ways, remember, like, Nala Ray had her OnlyFans open for a long time i think i don't even know if she still does but until she started her online uh her online course yeah she was still going to like only fans events and stuff too after being saying she was preaching the gospel to proselytize guys sure to proselytize can you imagine if early missionaries they went into like well you know went in rome and they're just being cannibals like how am i gonna relate to them otherwise well i work at the whorehouse and the nunnery yes she's one of those brothel nuns yeah plays and plays a mean organ here's some other examples i'll take everything sister yes here are examples of this is still on her instagram page you know right beneath the new newsletter or course you can get on how to tell your husband to woo you back after you've cheated this is still there fruits the fruits of the spirit Oh, couldn't hit the delete button? Devil horns, literally. Was it covered in holy water? They have a lot of views. Can't delete them. Is the remedy Jesus Christ? Oh, she is possessed. Yeah, maybe she was. Oh, that's see-through undies. That's cool. Opening infernal ceremony in the sex bomb goddess container. Wow. Again, if your kids are watching, they shouldn't be. But this is still on her page. It's a Bible study. The hell? After she said, the only thing I can share is the gospel. Yeah. And my ass cheeks slamming down on stage. And I behold, a pale ass. and syphilis followed with it and jesus wept yeah um you guys you guys see the problem and then you'll get all these the sisterhood who come out and go you're a chauvinist this isn't red pill by the way no no one here is advocating for promiscuity and going out and sleeping with a bunch of women we are saying avoid women like this eve you're no longer safe even seeking in the church this is a cancer to be clear hey delete those i want to show them me and my sin no no no no no you can talk about it what kind of message do you think is being sent out there we we had an open relationship for a very long time by the way these are all my videos here are my nipples uh also here's jesus how about no how about we go back to like traditionalism really needs to make a comeback as it relates to faith this is a serious problem young women how many you believe this is it more offensive to you for slut shaming and for false prophet shaming if that applies here like it's just it's just evil this is evil straight from the pit of hell everything she says is wrong and just so you know it's always the man's fault and to me it's not even the promiscuity of of her past that that that is the bothersome thing it's the fact that she leaves it up there and then says all the stuff about how she left and how god saved her marriage and here oh by the way buy it yeah by the course you know i have 4 000 followers hopefully one of you buys my course yeah yeah that's that we shouldn't have to wonder if your conversion is genuine yeah and now more are fake than not well and we we have strong evidence and this was a critique i i don't remember what conference it was but when nala ray went and spoke was it at the tp usa women's conference last year was it she was scheduled for it i don't know if she if if she was there or not because there was a lot of criticism about it before him and other things and i'm just like guys, what are we doing here? Like she's selling classes online. I don't, listen, I don't care if the conversion is 100% genuine. Like you said, you sit in the pew for a little while. You have a little bit of seasoning and time. Like we've gotten away from that. How many pastors do we need to see rise to stardom and fall? How many people do we need to see come into Christ and then run away from it because they don't have any idea what it is. We cannot put these people out there and we cannot listen to them as experts on Christianity. And I think the problem, Stephen, that you're pointing out is that the Protestant church doesn't know how to distinguish between somebody who's seasoned and somebody who should be listened to and somebody who's doing just like this because they're like, it feels good. So therefore, it must be real. Get them on stage. Let's hear that fresh testimony. The problem is the Protestant church fears feminism. They think it's a foe they can't overcome. They're afraid of it because it's the women of the church who bring kids to Sunday school. It's the women who get involved and overly involved in many ways. And they're afraid of losing them. They're afraid of offending them. And so these testimonies are brilliant. Can you imagine genuinely any church that would host a man who had his old Chippendales video still up saying, I divorced my wife, cheated on her, but you know what? She really put in the work, and I was willing to give her a second chance. Can you imagine that man's testimony at a church? No. Boo! Boo! Not even the church leadership. The men in the congregation would not allow it. No. They would boo him or run him off the stage by any means necessary. Yeah. The problem is the Jezebel spirit has been taking over the modern Christian Protestant church. And you can't blame secularism when you have failed your people in trying to moderate, in trying to pander to an audience who, by the way, will never actually care about the gospel and the truth. They actually are repelled by it. And so they turn God into an idol. They turn God into an idol. they worship a false god because it makes them feel better and uh go to tnusa.com or call 1-800-958-1000 to get a 100 free consultation because don't get piped on taxes it's almost as bad as the subversion of the church i am repelled by paying more in taxes me too should so am i how dare they i always wish everyone i'm like i'm gonna do it this year i'm gonna protest i'm not gonna get my taxes i'm like i don't want to go to jail and you call me like charlie we gotta do this stuff Don't let me get Mike Tyson. You can do your taxes, just lie. No, no, this is really... Take TNUSA. You can't say that! No, no, that was a softball. You're supposed to go, No, Josh, that's dumb. Call Tax Network USA. Call Tax Network USA. You're going to go. Right, right, right. Gerald panicked. That's the beauty of Foundation. It's the only other company I write you down Foundation Daily. like no CEO is going to disapprove the ads because it's me. Oh, boy. Oh, he already tried. Yeah. He already tried to disapprove one. It's not happening. No, no. We can do anything. All right. This is obviously the story right now. It's the story that's everywhere in the news, and for good reason, yesterday in Rhode Island. Well, the tally of trans shooters increased to eight since 2018, and two within the last week. Yeah. two within the last week. So that's the new tally. It has nothing to do with trans, though. No, no. Now, let me go through those. For those of you who missed it, references available. Link in the description. 2018, Aberdeen. Trans shooter killed four. 2019, Highlands Ranch, Colorado. Trans shooter killed one, injured four. Colorado Springs in 2022. The non-binary shooter, I include it. A lot of these other stats don't. Killed five at a gay nightclub. 2023, Nashville, of course. You remember Audrey Hale, Covenant School. 2024, Perry, Iowa. a gender fluid shooter killed one injured five at a high school 2025 minneapolis minnesota the trans shooter killed two injured 29 um at annunciation church and then 20 uh well yeah this is 2026 tumblr ridge british columbia the trans shooter killed eight injured 25 at home and of course at the tumblr ridge secondary school and now you can add to that list now this technically wouldn't be a mass shooting but i'm i'm i'm going to include it as relevance because the left does it they massage these numbers anyway this brings us to paw tuckett rhode island This is the moment gunshots rang out at a high school hockey game in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. Student athletes and people in the stands fleeing for safety. It was a bang. I thought it was a pops. I thought it was balloons at first, but it was not balloons. In the end, two victims and the suspected shooter were dead. Three others were left in critical condition. Police say a brave bystander was able to subdue the gunman and prevent even more bloodshed. A good Samaritan stepped in and interjected in this scene, and that's probably what led to a swift end of this tragic event. Police identifying the shooter as 56-year-old Robert Dorgan, who also went by the name Roberta. Right. So a couple of things here. I'm going to get to who this person is, what we actually know, dispelled maybe some of the fake news out there um this i guess would fall under the reverse nirvana fallacy where people on the left would say well we haven't really had a we haven't had a huge number of trans shooters uh or anything like we haven't had a bunch of men and women's sports that used to be in the change my mind in 2016 it's like well okay just because this hasn't been the norm yet you are assuming that it'll all be great we're looking at warning signs and saying well considering the comorbidities considering the domestic violence race considering the suicidal ideation and attempts at suicide that are seen nowhere else in nature. Maybe these people are showing us some warning signs as to mental instability, and we don't actually want to accelerate it. And now we are seeing these acts of mass violence occur at a very rapidly accelerating rate. It's hard to find empirical data on that because the powers that be don't want you to. So first, who is this man? Robert Dorgan also goes by Roberta Dorgan. So Robert Roberta Dorgan, not to be confused with Roberta Dorgan, noted boxer of the infamous No Cox debacle fight. It was shameful for the people of Panama. The family. She's enough people around to remember Roberto Duran. He's OK with it. The family says that the shooter targeted other members of his family and that surprise had mental health issues. I'm not sure if they sort of uncouple the mental health issues, like had mental health issues aside from being, you know, trans and believing that he was something that he couldn't possibly be. I'm not sure, but this is how it was described. My father was a shooter. What happened? He shot my family. And he's dead now. This woman leaving the police station, speaking with reporters, saying her father was the one who opened fire inside of the hockey rink. He has mental health issues. Any idea why he would have done this? He's sick. He's very sick. Yeah. Clearly. Yes. And this has been going on for a while. So 2019, 2020, Dorgan underwent gender reassignment surgery. The father-in-law threatened to kick him out of the home. He called him a slur. He threatened to have him killed by an Asian street gang. Wow. Oddly specific. but quickly changed his mind once he saw said Asian street gang. I would have just pushed him over. I'm going to watch a battle drop tonight. Now, and our guest is backed up. It's funny that. No, no, no. I'm kidding. It's funny that we have to say this. and there is an argument over this person being mentally disturbed. Now, the argument takes place over, like I said, if this person was mentally disturbed regardless or in spite of this transgenderism. Once upon a time, you would have gone, well, here's a picture, so clearly mentally disturbed, right? You see how the lipsticks up the cheek? Yeah, that's what it would have been. Look at this picture. See? This boy's sick. See? Sick in the head. See? That's what it would have been if James Cagney was the one presenting it. But let me just ask you, does this person look normal to you if you knew nothing else? Goodbye, penis. Ooh, ooh. Goodbye, penis. Ooh, ooh. Goodbye, penis. I'm getting rid of you. Penis. Sometimes I'm trying to avoid copyright. It turns out better than something. But what I also do find funny about this particularly disturbed transy is that they decided to do spreads that look like an early 90s moto mag. like that is their niche in front of the Lambo in the female thong in front of the motorcycle right on the heels by the way of his upcoming motocross special on Disney Plus for people on audio you're missing out in none of those photos did he look like he was doing anything Latina no he did not yet his name is Roberta yeah I don know Roberta I like the name It a very manly name Say it loud that my penis is shrinking That's gone. Jeez. So let me outline you. I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing him in a thong. I know, but you didn't. But yeah, now you get that. So, Legacy Media. Let's go to them. As of the time of this broadcast, or at least when we started, several outlets made no mention of the trans ideation here after it was well known meaning it was reported everywhere else on new media uh you know social media and confirmed so places that didn't mention it at all because even though their job is to inform you they didn't think this was pertinent information the new york times cbs politico since the identity has been revealed there's been no mention from on social media uh the Krasenstein brothers, Harry Sisson, Brooklyn Dad, David Hogg, Hassan Piker, no mention of it, because it's not relevant. It's not relevant, even though this is the second in a week. And this is a thing that matters, too. I understand, it's not lost on me, I understand that there are domestic disputes. I understand, you know, once upon a time, the expression going postal, someone just had it and snapped. Those do happen. And sometimes there are white male, that would be most common, you'd imagine, because it's the largest demographic in this country. the reason that it matters if it's an islamic terror attack or the reason that it matters if it involves a trans individual is because these people have told you their ideology you you don't have to go to the detective work of figuring out the motivation when they tell you there are plenty of outliers and there are plenty of single you know incidents of violence so probably more they're probably more numerous because they happen more frequently heat of the moment right passion crimes But as far as ideologically motivated crimes, if there's a pattern that is important information, if your duty is to keep the public informed and safe. Does that make sense? You guys can comment below and we'll be back tomorrow as we are every day, 11 a.m. Eastern. Just tune in live. We still do this show live and we can talk about it. Here is the Rhode Island Governor Dan McKee addressing this. Again, his job is to inform his citizens, make sure there are any other threats. What would keep you safe? Focused on gun violence, no mention of the outlying condition of the suspect. Our state is grieving again. As governor, a parent and a former coach, my heart breaks for the victims, families and everyone impacted by the devastating shooting at Lynch Arena in Pawtucket. I want to talk to the families out there right now. Too many Rhode Islanders know what it feels like to lose a loved one, a neighbor, or a friend to gun violence. And a tragedy like this is incredibly difficult for people of any age to process. today we are praying for rhode island and those who are suffering from this tragedy well good you have all the need to knows you can thank your governor rhode islanders let's go through some of the claims that are out there right now and narratives that people are trying to champion here's the first narrative or narrative claim he did it because of nick fuentes or thomas massey or alex jones or something uh here's the truth he did it uh because he's a lunatic and how do i know he's a lunatic i've seen pictures that's enough yeah but there's more yeah and here's something else he may by the way be a fan of some right-wing commentators i'm sure if you took all the trans shooters and there are many if you took all of the violent trans people some would like country some would like hip-hop they all like share i'm sure you would see that but that's not what unites them you know what is most important well the good news is you know what's most important because the left has defined it as gender identity this person is a lunatic because of their identity how is it described gender identity you made it central to their identity not us it's not a preference it's not just something they do when they're off time It's not a hobby. It's their central identity. You have nonprofits to preserving, protecting and spreading said identity that needs to be addressed before the podcast that he may or may not listen to. And also, it's misleading by itself. Let me give you this ex conversation that involves those players who are being mentioned. So Kevin Sorbo posted this. He posted Tim McBride is a man community. Note this if I'm wrong about that person. you remember tim mcbride the shooter roberta as he likes to be called um wrote keep bashing us but do not wonder why we go berserk and that also by the way stems from feminism right it's it's it's a it's not your fault someone made you feel therefore yeah if you go berserk well that's on them then alex jones in the same thread referred to sarah mcbride as so creepy the shooter said shut the f up alex don't be so butthurt over somebody different then wonder why trans people go effing berserk seems to like that phrase he loves the berserk element of it all caps yeah and so that i would say is a sign of instability also dressing in ladies panties also mutilating your body also just before you get to this before you get to this like the buzzword out there is narcissist that's what all these women will say yeah where are you in a relationship with a narcissist and that means like if a guy combs his hair how about a guy who gets off on people seeing him in a dress and he's willing to sacrifice his family the leftist said that's a virtue by the way it goes back to feminism it goes back to eat pray love you can go just leave your folks just leave your abandon your children finding yourself spiritually across India, which by the way is bereft of any spirituality. They poop wherever it falls, to be clear. So now it's, hey, how I feel is more important. We mock things that used to be seen as virtues, right? It used to be like, hey, stay together for the kids. Then people go, oh, what, so we're supposed to stay together for the kids? Well, if the choice is that, or leaving and getting a sex change operation, and then living a life of complete depravity, why is it so silly for people to stay together for the kids? Why is the notion so silly of, you know what, it's not about me. it's not about me. That's how it used to be, you know, under patriarchy. It's not about me. We're going to stay together for the kids. Okay, we'll have some twin beds and, you know, we'll just keep this cordial if that's the best that you can do. Two, I don't like it, so I'm leaving. I'm going to follow my truth. And would we see this kind of mindset manifest itself in other statistical realities that tell us we are going the wrong direction? well let's look at the the transgender whatever it is domestic violence the relationships death so 43 of those in trans relationships admitted perpetrating intimate partner violence oh that seems pretty high that's a lot 43 that's higher than the false bill of goods that feminists sold you well back in the day men used to just come home and beat all their wives and nothing was done it was never true it was a small minority that's where whipping post comes from because it was never acceptable to beat women there were men who did it it was never acceptable you didn't get a 43 percent rate that's admitting to perpetrating it that's admitting that's not admitting to being a victim of it which you think would be higher like you think that number would be a lot lower for perpetrators like hey i didn't do that but no they willfully admit it i would also i would wager that if 43 admitted it probably more have done it yes that's what yeah exactly not everybody admits to their crimes yeah it appears yeah i smacked a bitch he deserved it uh also 42 percent of trans adults have attempted suicide 81 percent have thought about suicide 56 percent have engaged in non-suicidal self-injury 31 percent have drug abuse or substance abuse problems and again the suicide or attempted suicide rates don't really get any better after having an operation keep in mind keep in mind that's because of the mistreatment um it's higher than and i've been making this point for years it's higher than jews and nazi concentration camps it's higher than american slaves let's let's it's higher than than blacks under jim crow laws you think they're treated more poorly this no the only other place where you can find a rate that even approaches this paranoid schizophrenics and even that's debatable and this isn't to make fun or to tease this is This is concerning that medical professionals are allowed to practice medicine the proper way and they're not allowed to give these people treatment. They're supposed to just go, yep, yep, yeah, sure. Affirm, affirm, affirm. You're not crazy. Yep, a background check for a gun, totally fine. Go shoot up your family in an ice hockey rink. Anytime a guy is looking at doing something that's a little different, you look around to your friend group like, okay, is this acceptable? Can I wear this color shirt or something like that? It's pink. I don't know if my friends are going to mess with me. Something small like that. I want every trans person in America, when they look around to their friend group, they find loving people that tell them the truth that that is not okay. Something is wrong. That is not who you are. I don't want them to find safe quarter because then they end up like this person. If they had had somebody earlier on say, hey, look, this is not the way to go, instead of, hey, this is just how they feel. You got to let them go through this. No, you don't. Because it's not just their gender. They actually have a mental disorder. I want every single person who comes out. More than one. This is the problem, too, with people on the right who go, oh, you can do whatever you want as an adult. I have said that an individual interactions on, you know, let's say an acquaintance basis. I'll use the name that you legally have, because at that point, I probably don't even know what your other name is. But I'm not going to act like you are the gender that you claim to be if you very clearly are not. I don't believe adults can do whatever they want to do so long as you stay away from kids, because I believe you have no leg to stand on. I believe, as everyone did up until the DSM five, every single person who identifies or claims to be transgender needs to be classified as having a mental illness. That's the only solution. And that's it. Some way. And treat it the same way you would treat any other mental illness. You comment if you think that's too harsh. And by the way, doesn't mean that I hate you. I don't hate people who are bipolar. I don't hate people who are schizophrenic. I've known people. I don't hate people who are drug addicts. They're very hard to get along with. but I don't hate them. And I would be willing to try and help you get some assistance. I am not going along with this. I have not gone along with this. We as a society need to declare trans mental illness. It's not allowed in public spaces. These are people who get a sexual thrill, get a sexual thrill through being seen in ladies clothing. This guy didn't even try, by the way. No, I'm sure this guy went from a cycle of steroids to I'm a trick. Yeah. Yeah, and then he's wearing a lady's thong and a bra for some reason. What's the bra about? Yeah. What are you covering? It's a little ambitious. This is where we are. This is where we are. There'll be more information that comes out. Hey, hey, I want to make sure I get these right so that they don't sue me. It was, hold on, I'm going. It was, was it CBS, Politico, New York Times? CBS, Politico, New York Times. No mention? None? hey maybe we can go in there and also see uh if they have write-ups about domestic violence uh in trans households and really in lesbian households that's the only place where it's really high um maybe we can see if they write about the suicide rates maybe we can see if they write about the self-harm rates maybe we could see if these same places uh write about the comorbidity rates that you see with no other mental illness maybe they do that i'm willing to bet that they don't you would think that the feminists and the left would be uh you know all on board on these studies like hey we need to we need to learn about this yeah you would think so but they can't and you'll get some women the the jk rowlings who go like well i guess i'm a turf because you're taking over women's spaces yeah but here's the thing you need to go full conservative otherwise you are of no value because guess what to try and roll back the trans thing but then continue with all the other feminist bullshit takes us nowhere you you bitch about patriarchy it's what protected women from this because women cannot protect women from men it's not a thing that's why we had me too that's why feminists complain about rape culture and not in the same way regarding men women cannot protect women from men only men can and men this entire time Let's go through it. Every single piece of feminist messaging. Women's sexual liberation. You know what the dads are saying? Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't care if you have birth control. Don't do that. How's that working out for you? OnlyFans. Men going, wait a second. Trans, hold on. I don't want them in women's spaces. Kicked out of the PTA meeting. Fired. Hate speech. You look at the voting bloc. Until it hit a little too close to home, the majority of women thought, it's fine. And even half of women thought, yeah, yeah, we can let them compete in sports. It doesn't affect anybody. Only when it negatively affects their feels. A woman cannot protect women from the transgender ideology any more than a woman can protect another woman from an angry 250-pound rapist on PCP. It's not possible. Patriarchy, as you define it, protected you from these animals. And I say that in no uncertain terms. The animals have to go back to where we house animals, prisons or mental institutions, until they are reformed and no longer animals. And it doesn't need to be a mass shooting. It doesn't need to be a shooting. It just needs to be something that violates basic foundational principles of our country that women have the right to be protected from men. and it's men's job to do it. But by God, men are afraid to do it. Now, why? Well, because we've been told, sit down and shut up. If you want us to stand up for you, then guess what? You're going to have to acknowledge that there's only one person who can stand up for you. There's only one group who can. And you don't get to put them back on the shelf when you're no longer facing a threat. It's like having a pilot, you know, having a plane in the hangar. You don't need it all the time, but when you need it, you need it. That's men. That's patriarchy. They're the ones who've been fighting this for a very long time. 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So this next lady who we going to have on the show Sarah Rogers she is she is the undersecretary of state for public diplomacy since October 2025 I believe So she really kind of in charge of informing sort of foreign bodies foreign publics of the state department policy So almost like an ambassador type role, to be clear. And she's really been championing freedom of speech. I know we covered this yesterday, the RSF list, as far as freedom of the press index. And did you say that we have her on? I believe so. I believe we have her on. So please, what you can follow her undersecpd on X. but let's welcome for the very first time the undersecretary of state sarah rogers oh sorry miss rogers your mic was muted there i don't know if we can hear you one second there noodles can you uh does she need to unmute her mic uh it appears to be unmuted on our end uh yes oh no maybe unfortunate um all right well then how about this you you work with her there and I'll, sorry, one moment, Ms. Rogers, we'll get you going. I'm going to read actually some statements from you as we get ready. So she's made quite a name on X with some theaters out there like this one she wrote. Germany infamously retains very few twos, yet imported barbarian rapist hordes. As an American, I'm allowed to call them that, under Merkel, even today, Germany suppresses political opposition who point this out. That's, I love, it's hilarious that she's like, as an American, I can actually say this. as opposed to your citizens who cannot say this, even if it's true. We just covered this yesterday. This is very important because it's central, it's foundational to our actual freedom of the press, the First Amendment. I wanted to play this clip that Sarah Rogers recorded while she was in Europe in December. I got off my European train and checked into my European hotel and noticed that a member of European Parliament called Helmut Bronstetter tweeted, quote, There's no censorship in Europe. Everyone has to follow our rules. Well, I'm traveling here on a diplomatic passport, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to say a few things that ordinary Europeans can't by revisiting some remarks for which people in Europe and also the UK have been investigated or arrested or jailed by their governments over the past few years. Similarly, a British woman was dragged out of her bath by 11 police officers after she referred in a private text message to a man who allegedly violently assaulted her as, quote, a faggot. And victims of violent crime aren't the only people who lack free speech rights in Europe. In Sweden, an activist called Rasmus Paladin was jailed after he burned a Koran and referred to Islam as gay Islam. Finally, in Germany, a man faced a criminal investigation for referring to Green Party leader Riccardo Lange as, quote, fat. There are many more I could go on. And I will say I appreciate her creative choices there. Yes. Because usually you would go in order of least offensive to most offensive. Yes. Fat. I'm quoting other people here as she was. Gay Islam. And then faggot. But she led with faggot. Which I very much appreciate. It was the pause. The delivery was perfect. Yeah. And I quote, faggot. I like the way she did it. She set the tone. It was, you know, the most extreme. You know? Then even this. Even this. You know, this they got in trouble for. but even fat yeah i can't say fat and it's literally what you are yeah if you are not skinny you are fat yeah it's well we can't say that because we had fat pride but we also by the way have an obesity epidemic and uh also all those uh prideful fat people um well they discovered ozempic and they're not proud anymore well they're proud now but of being skinny yes i don't i don't really think these people understand what free speech really is no no they don't at all they they don't and this is why we talked about this you know um reporters without borders the the press freedom index they have us where do they have us right next to they had estonia number two they had us right next to oh yeah sierra leone that's right sierra leone we were just we were just worse than sierra leone of free press what so stupid think of the era that we're living in yeah where some people out there actually believe that we have less press freedom than the place that has i mean just record number of journalists being killed for covering killing god i hope there's a retarded leftist out there somewhere going you know what i gotta move to Sierra Leone. Yes. Yes. I got to, you know, I can't say the things I want to say here. Yeah. So I'm going to go to Sierra Leone. Well, and you know, like all the hate speech stuff that was being talked about, all the bannings, all the shadow bannings, all the demonetization that was all going on under it. Primarily, let's look at the Biden years. Under the Biden years, we're only two spots better. It doesn't matter what we do. There's no, there's no way they're going to ever, like you said, it's just as far left as you can go. Yeah. And if we don't go as far left as they are, then we have no freedom. And it's like, well that's that's actually not the case no we just don't arrest our citizens for private text messages can't imagine that imagine you send a private text messages a private text message and you're like i think that guy might be a fag and the next thing you know you're being hauled out of the bath naked by 11 police officers yeah that happened in great britain and it's just no small thing because the left goes yeah but they have free health care they're more free yeah but they have more vacation time i think cuba was rated ahead of us i think cuba was like in the top hundred here's a really important question because i also see these people these black pillars who you know because they've they've kind of gotten in bed with populace even like bernie sanders um i've even even seen people talking about universal basic income and kind of using the talking points of the left let me ask you this genuine question would you trade or would you accept a scenario where if you say the wrong thing you can be hauled out of the bathtub by 11 officers for example like fat via text like fag via text would you trade that for more government subsidized paternity and maternity leave would you make that trade yeah would you make that trade would you trade being jailed for example like uh doing a cover of kung fu fighting because it's a violation of hate speech would you trade all right i'll take the jailing for offensive speech if i get socialized health care would you trade it would you trade your second amendment rights for free internet like Germany? Would you make that trade? These are questions that really help you define where you line up. And a lot of people act as though they are on the right. And they're not because they would make that trade. And I know that we have technical difficulties with our guests. So do you want to let me know? Yeah, we'll do that. She's trying to call back in in just a minute. We're trying to figure out maybe you're in airplane mode. Maybe check that setting just to make sure that we can get it. It was working fine just a little while ago. Sometimes this happens. I apologize for that. But as soon as we get her back on, we'll do that. But we can take some chat. I did want to make one quick point about the free speech thing. These countries are arguing. And we said this here in the United States a long time ago. And when Pam Bondi came out and made some comments about hate speech, we immediately jumped on those comments like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You have to understand what you're saying because there lies the path to not having free speech. And that's what Europe has done. They're like, no, we have. What are you talking about? We have free speech here in Europe. that's what they were saying no they argue they have more they go we have more freedom of speech because people aren't afraid of being offended right people aren't afraid of being marginalized so really when speech is limited that actually means that speech is more free right exactly they say it's like what they laughed at us and they were like yes of course unless it's hate speech and i'm like yes but who defines that nobody ever asked the follow-up question like who defines that because that is a moving target anybody can take that and run with it even with the purest of motivations it does not take long before everything is hate speech right and now you have no leg to stand on because you never had free speech to begin with yeah you might say you shouldn't say faggot fine granted but fat makes people say it more yeah fat was the one that's just like that's insane to me that is the craziest one because faggot yes it can be hurtful people take it as a really bad insulting hurtful thing and i get it fat you are it yeah i what do you want me to say like i've never offended somebody calls me the only time i've offended somebody call me fat is if they're not funny about it right uh you're fat yeah yeah was there an insult there or were you just described i also have brown hair what what are you gonna do with that is it brown is it i guess it's dark brown yeah it's really dark brown it's really yeah yeah all right well let's grab some chat while we're waiting for our guest here uh and for those of you by the way who are not rumble premium we're gonna try and get sarah rogers on the chat and uh we'll upload the clip if we get her going on uh on rumble premium uh you can click that button right there join because that's what keeps the lights on, the investigative journalism, the free show that you see every day, and the 100% more show, as well as the lineup and everything else that you get. It's $99 a year, hand etched mug. You join the club, or you can try for $9 a month, and we'll continue on Rumble Premium. Let's grab some chat. Noodle. Mr. Noodle Tammer. All right. First chat from... That's his name. It's got to be his name now, right? Yes. First chat from Wandering in Exodus. Question for the crew. How do I deal with the burnout of countering the media talking points to coworkers and friends? I've proven points so many times and still they default to talking points. I live in Virginia. If these are people where you're revisiting these conversations, and I probably should do a better job of explaining this to you, there's rhetoric, there's debate, and there's trying to eliminate the continuation of a conversation. So the first time you speak with these people, use a Socratic method. Try and get them to rationalize their position. Try and walk through the reason process. Then if you find them continuing to use the same talking points, well, they don't have ears to hear, just find the shortest, most direct path to shutting it down and move on dismissively. Like, just do that. That's what you do. There's, well, why do you think that? Let's take any position. Like, you go, oh, so why do you think we should limit Second Amendment rights? What do you base that on? And they'll often, if they're willing to have this conversation, they'll find out it's based on nothing most of the time. But if it's someone with whom you've already had this conversation, you just go, yeah. Well, you know, 15 to 25,000 homicides a year with firearms versus two to three million defensive uses. It's not even close. So, yeah, I'm done with it. And you may not like it, but, you know, private ships have the right to use cannons. You can go read the letter of market reprisal from, I believe it was Jefferson or Madison. You can find it. Yeah. If they say, oh, yeah, it's just for muskets, except for the pepper box revolver, except for the Gatling gun, except for the Girondoni air rifle. No, none of that stuff holds any water. You just don't like guns. That's fine. You just don't like guns. I support the Second Amendment. High five. Move on. That's what you do. Once you've had the conversation, it's an exercise in utility. Or you draw your pistol on them. Yes, you do. I'm just kidding. Don't do that. That was all. That was ingest. No, you meant like with a marker, like you draw it on their face. Yes, draw. Yeah. I meant with a pistol. Get a whiteboard. Get a pistol, put a marker in the barrel, and then go on the whiteboard. Now, I want to make sure, too, that people don't delude yourself either. Or dilute? Delude. Delude. Delude. Don't do that and say, well, I've made the case, when you really haven't made the case. Right. When you really haven't done a good job of articulating the point, because a lot of times we think, well, it's because you know it. You think you're communicating it and you're not. Make sure you're doing a great job of delivering that point. If it takes a conversation with somebody who agrees, hey, did I make that point really well because I'm hearing these arguments over and over and I want to do this effectively. That's the way you do it. Don't muddle through something and think, well, I gave them the information. They're just too dumb. Always assume that you're the first part of the problem. Fix that. Get it right. Make sure you do. and then exactly what you said. And I hate to be self-promoting here, but that's actually why we created the three and three podcast. Three key facts in three minutes or less. There's Department of Education. There's a second amendment. There's a separate one on gun control. There's immigration. I think there's about 15 topics and you can go wherever you listen to podcasts. You can go and listen to them. Three minutes, three key facts. We make those references available so you can check them out. And generally speaking, if you know those three cold, you can make the case. And that's the end of it. That's why we designed that. And it takes three minutes on any given topic. Let's grab another chat before we go to Rumble Premium, Mr. Noodle Tamer. All right. Next chat from Caligali. Question for the crew. Should I still go to church if the only churches I can reach except female ministry? I'm reluctant to support a church that ignores 1 Timothy 2. Well, okay. So a couple of things to be clear. Female ministry, like there can be women's groups where there can be female senior elders, obviously, in charge of women. But people don't necessarily, people don't like this. There is no situation in which a woman in the Christian church, in God's church, the one that we believe in the Bible, is supposed to be an authority over a man. Just to be clear. And that's not even just about wives submitting to husbands. That's about women in church submitting to the authority of men who are called to lead the church. So that means even if you have a disagreement, it is the duty of a woman to communicate privately with the man so that he may advocate on her behalf. And that is to discourage a spirit of chaos and of gossip where the same thing happens with men, by the way. Men are told, we're commanded to have designated leaders who will speak on behalf of us and to represent us so that you kind of have a conclave. You have a huddle and then one person determines the direction because that exists in any other structure of hierarchy in nature, whether it's the military, whether it's a company, whether it's a sports team, you have a coach, you have a captain. So I would say, first off, be really sure that those are the only churches you can reach. And second, I understand your grievance. And I would say, hey, you could probably find a church online at that point. There are some churches now that exist online that then have groups in your area. Look for something like that. But I don't think that you're wrong to have a crisis of conscience and to say it's inconsistent and to look for something different. I think that's actually well advised. Yeah, I 100% agree. There should not be, and listen, I'm sorry if this offends people, but this is just biblical gospel. like just there shouldn't be female pastors i'm sorry that's just not that's just not how god set up his church it's not like saying your last time we had different roles different responsibilities were held to different account for different things and so that's how god set it up you have a problem with that take it up with god not me i'm just communicating the message also maybe it's an opportunity if there are enough people that think like hey there's there's no like actual like male led churches around me maybe it's time to start one and i'm not for starting a bunch of churches i think there's too many churches in some cases because people split over every single possible thing and then move on so i'm like but but maybe in this case there is maybe there's an opportunity for you guys to do that in your area if you really truly can't find something that's well and by the way i know that we've run late so i'm going to direct all of you right now uh if you are not a member hey click join because i know that we'll have sarah rogers on a little bit we'll upload the clip after uh but we'll do it live on rumble premium and if not you are going to continue watching Tim Puglio. 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