How Did This Get Made?

The Forbidden Dance

69 min
Mar 27, 202623 days ago
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Summary

The hosts of 'How Did This Get Made?' analyze the 1990 film 'The Forbidden Dance,' a hastily-produced dance film about a Brazilian princess using the erotic Lambada dance to save the rainforest. The episode explores the film's production chaos, its simultaneous release with a competing Lambada movie, and its surprisingly prescient environmental messaging wrapped in questionable dance sequences and racial stereotypes.

Insights
  • Rapid production timelines (90 days from conception to release) can result in narrative gaps and disconnected scenes, yet the film maintains structural coherence through montage-heavy editing
  • Dance films of the 1980s-90s used eroticism as a vehicle for social messaging, positioning transgressive movement as a tool for cultural and environmental activism
  • Corporate rivalry between producers Golan and Globus led to simultaneous competing Lambada films, demonstrating how market timing and IP disputes can drive production decisions over creative merit
  • Environmental messaging in mainstream entertainment can succeed through emotional/sensual appeal rather than explicit policy education, though specificity about corporate wrongdoing remains absent
  • Casting and performance quality disparities (lead dancer vs. supporting character Carmen) reveal how production constraints affect narrative coherence and audience engagement
Trends
Exploitation of cultural dances for Western commercial appeal with minimal cultural context or authenticityEnvironmental activism in mainstream cinema during late 1980s-early 1990s focused on rainforest preservation as primary climate concernRapid-turnaround film production driven by trending cultural phenomena (Lambada dance craze) prioritizing speed-to-market over script developmentUse of dance sequences as substitute for explicit sexual content in PG-13 rated films to circumvent rating restrictionsDual competing productions of identical concepts revealing industry patterns of simultaneous development and IP litigationRacial and class stereotyping in films positioning non-white protagonists as exotic/hypnotic rather than fully realized charactersCorporate villainy in 1990s cinema portrayed as abstract and undefined rather than tied to specific industries or practicesBrat Pack aesthetic and casting conventions persisting into early 1990s despite cultural shifts
Topics
Lambada dance cultural phenomenon and 1990 market timingFilm production timelines and script development under extreme time pressureEnvironmental messaging in mainstream entertainmentRainforest preservation as 1990s climate concernPG-13 rating constraints and creative workaroundsGolan-Globus Productions and Canon Films business modelRacial representation and stereotyping in 1990s cinemaDance as narrative and emotional device in filmCorporate villainy characterization in action/drama filmsCasting and performance quality in low-budget productionsIP disputes and simultaneous competing film releasesCultural appropriation in dance-centered narrativesClass dynamics in Beverly Hills-set narrativesWitch doctor/magical character tropes in mainstream filmTraining montage conventions in dance films
Companies
Golan-Globus Productions (Cannon Films)
Producer Menim Golan's company that created The Forbidden Dance; Golan split from cousin Globus in 1987 and raced to ...
Columbia Pictures
Distributor that received The Forbidden Dance one day before release to beat competing Lombada film to market
Petramco (fictional)
Fictional corporation in the film portrayed as destroying Brazilian rainforest; serves as the film's primary antagonist
People
Menim Golan
Producer who split from cousin Globus in 1987 and rushed The Forbidden Dance into production to capitalize on Lambada...
Yoram Globus
Co-founder of Golan-Globus who produced competing Lombada film; split with Golan in 1987 over business disagreements
Roger Ebert
Visited The Forbidden Dance set during production to document the unusually rapid filmmaking process
August Darnell
Lead singer of Kid Creole and the Coconuts, the real band featured in the film's climactic audition sequence
Eva Tudor Jones
Performed as 'Mama Coconut' in the film; now manages all operations for Kid Creole and the Coconuts
Quotes
"December of 1989. The producers said, hey, we need to make a Lombada dance movie. Ten days later, they get a script. In January, they start shooting. The movie is released in March."
Paul (host)Early in episode
"The dance scenes are the sex scenes. In order to make this PG-13, the sex scenes are dance scenes."
Host discussing film structureMid-episode analysis
"Jason is baby. Don't ever say that again. And don't ever put him in a corner."
HostCharacter analysis segment
"The rainforest is too important. I say, if Petramco is destroying the rainforest, well, then we should just boycott their ass."
Kid Creole (character, from film)Film climax
"This movie is about a company from California that is just destroying the rainforest in Brazil. They are coming through, letting all the natives know, hey, get out of here because we're burning this."
Host summarizing plotPlot overview
Full Transcript
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He said, this is the wrong movie. We're supposed to be watching Lombada. Wait. Well, no, no. We were supposed to be watching The Forbidden Dance. No, I know. But you got confused. Yes. Did I watch the right movie? Did you watch a movie with a character named Nisa? Yes. OK. Then we have watched the right movie. Holy cow, because there was a lot of Lombada in it. A lot of Lombada. Amazing Lombada. But this isn't the movie that was called Lombada. Oh, wow. OK, I'm sorry. I've already jumped in all over this. But this is a wild reveal. OK, great. There was a lawsuit that happened. So there are posters that label this movie Lombada, The Forbidden Dance, but then an injunction made them take away Lombada and just be the Forbidden Dance. But then there was another movie that came out like the same weekend called Lombada. Wait, the same week came out. They came out the same. It was they were around the same time. Yes, the exact same day. God, what was going on? What can you imagine? As a people that we needed. It was taking over the nation. I know, but you know, it reminds me of, do you remember when Paul Blart, Mall Cop and also I think Mall Cop came out like there were. There are two Mall Cop movies. I remember like Volcano and Dante's Peak. I remember like, I don't know why I'm remembering Mall Cop's, but I feel like there is a bunch of like why are these? Exactly. It was an observant report with Seth Rogen. Thank you. And Paul Blart, Mall Cop with Kevin James. Thank you. Two films about small cops. The exact same time. And it feels just as obscure and just as random as two films about a forbidden dance. I mean, I mean, I was going to. Do you guys, I'll let me ask you this just because you guys are younger. Do you remember the phenomenon that was like like the Lombada and the forbidden dance, all this stuff like close dancing, crotch touching, dancing was like truly like so risque and so outrageous that like it needed to be foregrounded in people needed to be like, there needs to be a movie about this. Well, I just looked up the term Lombada. Yeah. Because I'm getting really turned around here. Lombada means a fast erotic Brazilian dance that couples perform with their stomachs touching. Cool. OK. But stomachs touching is interesting because I actually I don't. I that's not what I saw really. Here is what I'll say. I mean, that feels like a sanitized way of saying what's also touching is what's right below you. Well, and that, you know what I mean? This was like a dance when I understood it. It was a dirty dance. It was like a fucking dance. Like that's what I understood Lombada. She says it's erotic and you know, and part of it is like the in order for your stomachs to touch while dancing, your legs need to be. In. Yes. What you're doing is putting is putting your legs in between each other. So you're crotch to crotch. I think this is more of a grind like the advent of grinding in dance, right? Because really what I'm I'm looking at another definition of Lombada and it's saying that dancers generally dance with arched legs. The steps are side to side, even swaying at a time that the dance became popular, which is 1990. Short skirts for women were in fashion and men were wearing long trousers. And so it was like this idea that like the women's skirts are swirling up as she spins around and kind of having thong underwear on was a part of this as well. So I think it was just you're seeing a lot. This is like this is like again, when the end, there's a perfect. There's perfect examples of it shown early on of how like Jason and Ashley dance right and how like all the white people dance is like that's how people danced in this time, you know, just like all upper body nonsense. You know, yeah. But here's my issue, though, is, oh, God, I so I don't honestly, I don't even know where to get. I'm I'm glad we're starting with just the pure definition of Lombada. Because this is important. This is important. This is actually important context and an important, you know, setting of the stage because to me, what I'm seeing is the Lombada is a couple's dance. Talking about some exceptions are my crotch is touching for a lot of this movie. Our main character, Nisha, is dancing the Lombada on her own. Well, she's doing like solo Lombada. It's a kind of masturbation in my mind. That's what I feel like the movie. I feel like what the movie, this is a go a Golan and Globus movie. Yes, yes. Am I right? Like, I feel like very much in this movie, the dance scenes are the sex scenes. Right. They are. In order to make this PG 13, the sex scenes are or instead, dance scenes, whether it's solo dancing, quote unquote, or not. Like they are that is and it's and let's be clear. She says that it is forbidden in Brazil to dance this dance because it's so erotically charged. And what we see over and over and over again is when she dances the Lombada, it causes men to go feral. Men begin to just attack like throughout the entire movie. It is absolutely every every man is correctly portrayed as a true predator villain in this movie. Unable to control themselves. Yes. I mean, the idea because they need that rainforest to get burned. I mean, now this is a climate change movie. Yes, we're going to get into all of this. Now, I just want to say that while this movie is called The Forbidden Dance, there were no formal government bands on this dancing. Right. It was the idea, though, I think that we were in a conservative time. This dance then kind of broke through those barriers. And it became like the number one song on the pop charts for a couple of weeks. So, I mean, again, I just I was going to save this for the end, but I think it's worth bringing up here in December of 1989. The producers said, hey, we need to make a Lombada dance. I really want you to keep these numbers in your head. December of 89. I was just going to turn 10. OK, I'm putting myself there. I wasn't born and they go, we need a script. Ten days later, they get a script. OK, ten days later, they get a script. It's a quick. In January, they start shooting. The movie is released in March. It feels like a rush job. It is the quickest film ever to be basically conceived, written, shot and released. So much so that Roger Ebert like visited the set to be like, this is the craziest thing ever. It was delivered to Columbia Pictures one day before the film's release, just to be out the day of the other movie. Then you know what? They did a great job. I'm even more impressed than before, because because I will say there is many times in my notes where I'm like, why are they dance? They haven't yet met. Why are they already at a dance club together? There's so much connective tissue. That the movie just does not give you. It just cuts from basically set piece to set piece, montage to montage. But given the information you just told me, by the way, well done. It's still holds together and they save the rainforest at the end. Well, I mean, that's the movie is dedicated to the rainforest. Now, without this movie, to be honest, I don't know that we would have for a breathable air progressive plot for 1990. If you are wondering what we are talking about, I'll quickly tell you that this movie is about Nisa, a native Brazilian princess who travels to LA to stop an American corporation from destroying her rainforest home. When Nisa gets to LA, she winds up working as a maid for Beverly Hills family where they have a son who loves dance. Jason, Jason and Nisa go out dancing, but Jason's friends hate Nisa because she's simply different. I mean, no, they are big. They're very they are a hateful, hateful racist bigots. Yes, with if within every single way, they are villains. And everyone really in this movie is a straight up racist. I will we can dig into all this just if you've not seen it. I will say Nisa then is disregarded by this group. She's out on the street. She starts working in a club that's also like a brothel, but she's not doing the brothel stuff. She's just doing dancing. And it's also like a leather club. But we'll get into that. And then finally, Jason rescues rescue Nisa from the brothel. And they decide that they need to work together to stop this company from destroying the rainforest. The only way to do that is to get on a television dance contest so they can spread the word, spread the word. And that that's like the brief overview. We're going to get into the witch doctors. We're going to get into his, you know, Jason's girlfriend, Ashley. But that's just a little bit of the plot of the forbidden dance. Again, not Lombada. Yeah, not Lombada, the movie, but the Lombada. That is blowing my mind. I thought I just watched Lombada. Also, did you watch Lomba? Oh, I've I've watched Lomba. Don't worry about it. They played the song Lombada. I'm going to say conservatively 35 times. No, it was when it came on at the end, I was like, wow. They it is it is the music in the movie, the song, rather, is relentless. Like you said, it's just like this is a movie that was conceived and released within 90 days. So it is truly like filling time, filling, filling time. And I mean, so tough because I'm going to read. I'm going to be so for real right now. I'm going to be so for real. Oh, God. All right. Hold on. There, the dancing from our lead, Anissa, is terrible. Wow. You know, and she may be doing a wonderful portrayal of the Lombada. That might be just exactly what that looks like. I don't I don't care. It's it's so horrible and strange. And there's nothing to me. I mean, I guess you're both might you can speak to it, but there was nothing. Yes, there was one scene with her in the curtain. Yes, very good. Yeah, where she's grinding into the curtain. I remember that scene very well. She had more chemistry with that curtain. Unlike Paul, I don't watch our movies on like two times speed. But I didn't watch this on. Yeah, there's some scenes I will watch at point five. And that one I. Well, by the way, sometimes this movie is slowed down to point five when they want to show something like a glass. Like this movie slows down. Be like, hey, we're going to if we're going to run through a hut, we're going to do it in slow. Like we need to get every thing that blew my mind to June's point is there's a point in the movie where there is the quintessential training montage where they are meeting day after day after day after day to rehearse the Lombada. They're in different outfits. They're rehearsing to the song. Please. So same place so that they can get on the kid Creole in the coconuts audition and get passed by Mama Coconut wearing an Amy Sherman Palladino hat. And but can I just say the kid Creole in the coconuts does not speak to me as a large televised audience, but yet they are treating this as if it's the finale of one of the biggest shows on television. American Idol. Yeah, like at its height. I loved the small stakes of it, though. I loved the small stakes the movie had that no room ever has more than about 15 people in it, even crowded clubs. But anyway, sorry, my point was to June's point, we see them training for what appears to be weeks working on the dance and they never get better. And in fact, when they do the audition, they seem to be worse. Like I was like, and then they've gotten worse at this. Yeah, the final product is pretty bad as well. The funniest thing about that training montage, though, is, you know, I was thinking back to like the training montage and dirty dancing, which to me is one of the finest training montage was in any movie. I carried the watermelon there. And they're on the log and they're, you know, we know the move that they're going for, right? We know that that's the big lift coming up at the end. Right. And they're going over it and they're going over it. And there's frustration sometimes she's laughing sometimes she gets tickled. There's so many ways in which they deal with that big lift and that whole dance sequence in this, they get frustrated by a turn in and a turn out. And then they get both of them very mad at each other. And it's not like, oh, it's like they're fucking pissed. Yeah, they're so mad at each other. It's also interesting. What's all. Yes. And but what's also interesting is she's a master. He's a learner. Right. And it's not framed like that. It's not framed like that. It's almost like there's equals and they're not. He needs to be learning from her so that the catharsis of the movie, he's baby. Let's be clear. He's baby. Don't ever say that again. And don't ever put him in a corner. Ever say that again and don't put him in the corner for baby. Jason is baby. Jason is not baby. You don't want me to say Jason is baby? Jason is not baby. I just want to I just want to give it to people so they can clip it. Jason is baby. OK, cool. Thank you. Crisp, vibrant and bursting with citrus. 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More, oh, that looks good. Food options from poolside snacks to ala cart dining. Book on app, in store or online. You book it, Tuui sort it. At all and after protected, keys and seas apply, selected hotels only see website for details. Well, I mean, look, again, this movie is about a company from California that is just destroying the rainforest in Brazil. They are coming through, letting all the natives know, hey, get out of here because we're burning this. We're burning it to the ground, not shopping it down. They're burning down the rainforest. For what end we don't know. It's Rucker Hauer's like Twin Brawlers. Oh, my God, I wrote American Rutger Hauer, too. Yeah, I wrote American Rutger Hauer. I love that thing. That guy. And so he comes in very harshly drives his Jeep through one of their huts. And then to me, my favorite part is when they are leaving out of anger, they just drive over a small tree like the equivalent of like what the what like the the sag Christmas tree is in the peanuts Christmas special. Like it's like they clearly work. Well, we could do that. We could drive. We could we could hit that tree and it won't be that big. Well, by the way, though, when they're driving through that hut, I see this is where I was getting so confused because I thought that that that looked like a bridal hut that looks like, you know, she was maybe in there to get ready or to go after. Yeah, Nisa is, I think, getting married. That's what I thought. God, who is that guy? We he she never mentions him again. No, I mean, look, no, we are told that Nisa has spent a lot of time in the States studying the white man. I wouldn't like that's her own choice of words. Yeah, she goes, I've been there because she's like, let me deal with this, guys. I'll talk to Rucker Hauer. Hey, I know the white man. But then when she does come to LA, it does seem like she's never studied the white man because the way that she says and I don't want to be one of these races in the movie, but the way that she says chair man, it felt to me like she was saying a man that is also a chair like I enjoy it. I really enjoyed. Now, here's the thing, you know, I need to discuss Jason, Jason, because Jason, not me, not Jason. Thank you, Jason, because rarely do we find Jason's in our movies. Yeah, this is a good one. And this one, this was a good one. Well, this Jason was presented when he was first in that bed and she gets a job in that house and the woman's walking her through. And, you know, she opens the door and says, hey, don't clean in here if he's in here. And and he's passed out on that bed. Yeah, that's my son. He's, you know, near do well. It's I thought, OK, he's eight. He's 18 if he's 19. He's just out of school. I also have this question. Got wonderful. Young buck. Ideally, yeah. And because she's very young. Now, Paul, I'm watching these movies and in post the last Epstein email drop. I'm very I'm not like, OK, as a person after reading all of them. And I was like, how young is she? She looks too young. She looks like I'm quickly googling twenty six or twenty six. OK, great. But I was like, oh, OK, he's going to be he's going to be a teenager. He the next shot we see of him. He looks like a middle aged man. It's it's inappropriate that he still lives at home and is being treated like a child by his parents. He's a grown man in the movie Wall Street. Like he looks. That's how he carries himself. It looks like he doesn't have the hair of they've been a teenager. He doesn't have a bit. He doesn't even have a baby face. He know, you know what it is? Him and all his friends, Ashley and Weed. And I wrote the names down somewhere. They all have a bunch of shitty names. They look like they are the runoff of the brat pack. Yes, they look like they're in a St. Elmo's Fire ripoff movie. They look like they are adults. They should not be. They they seem to be portraying high school kids and they are not at all. You know what it was? It was, you know, Jessica and I were talking about how the young kids, if they think someone's unattractive, they'll call them chopped. You know, their faces kind of chopped. And then if they think they look like a celebrity, but like not as good looking, they'll call them a chopper ganger. And that's what I felt like about all of the guys in this movie. They all looked like chopper gangers, like that they should be those guys we remember from that time. And they are so not. I mean, our Jason, I want to talk about his hair. And I'm so glad you brought it up because the the infrastructure. Yeah, go for it. The infrastructure of his hair is. I spent the entire movie just trying to figure it out. The highways and the byways, the mainframe was so so confused. It's interesting when it's what's interesting about watching old stuff, both for this and also when I'm watching old episodes of Law and Order or old whatever's that, you know, I'm old movies and stuff is you really are shocked to remember. We've become so desensitized. Everybody now has some version of the same hairline. Everybody now has some version of the same. Right. Some version of the same stuff. We now have figured enough things out that you forget that even then back then, young people, you had to reckon with receding hairlines in their 20s. And I will you watch it on moon lighting so much so that they have to start making jokes in the show about David Addison losing his hair because he can't. He can't go to Turkey and get a get a hair plug. I told you the story, I think, but I'll I'll tell it quickly here that when I was a child, I was such a fan of moon lighting that I went to my barber hairstylist and I said, can you make me look like this? And I gave him a picture of Bruce Willis from Moon Lighting and they said, that's a receding hair. And I was like, I want it. And luckily, my babysitter was like, don't know, we have to make sure his mom is OK. But that's the thing is like the many of the sex symbols of the time. Bruce Willis, Corbin Bernstein, like people had. Receiving hairline. Yeah, that's wonderful. And and you're right. I I do think there is definitely a diversity to hairline that that that we don't see anymore. And that's too bad. And I totally get that. I think what what I'm also saying, though, is like what we're talking about the front. I'm also talking about the back. It's both very long and it and sometimes quite short. It's so confusing. And there are times where he's he's dancing and dancing and you'll see the back lift up. Yeah. You know, it is so strange. Oh, yeah, I whole situation. But you know that whole thing for someone who's in constant motion. So here I'm going to say, like I can speak to this as a man who is bald. Like when you are losing it, you don't want to cut it from any other spot. You're like this. I'm disguising it like I like. And you see it all the time. You see that all the time. You see it for the puffed out the sides. It's the long the back. It's like, no, no, no. Trump. Yeah. You got it all over the place. Now, look, do you think it's his hair? But wait, no, he has a good hair. Yeah, before he got great hair, great, great hair, right? All right, well, we'll leave that on the side. Here's what I'll say. The hair that I loved is, of course, the witch doctor who just said, you know what, I'm losing it and I am going to go to me. This looks like a Fred Armisen character. You know, yes, great. He was amazing. That is Joe is his name. Joe. Yeah. Joe. Joe is the tribal shaman who is do is up to a lot of stuff. I mean, he's got straight up magic. Yes, he is literally doing magic and everybody's just like, oh, cool. He does magic. OK, we're in. Why not? Well, what I was fascinated by, I mean, so the character, I can't remember her name. She finds Nisha like a starman by a fountain. Carmen, thank you. Carmen is her name. So it's like the horniest character in the movie. And by the way, I'm going to be I'm going to be so for real again. The best dancing in the movie, as far as I'm concerned, Carmen, by Carmen in his own apartment, just vibing out and seducing Joe. Joe, because she's so she's so free with her movement. She feels like she's moving to a song and everybody else feels like they're trying to remember steps. I mean, does that make sense? Yes, yes, she had energy and it was interesting. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I'm enjoying this. And it was surprising. And she was giving everything she had. You're right. Everybody else was like marking the beats. Yes. And trying to remember what the steps are. You know, it felt like they were they had been taught stuff versus Carmen. Just felt like she was living her best life. And I was like, give me the Carmen movie. But by the way, is that part of the black magic of Joe? Because we do know that Joe has got he can shoot fireworks out of his hand. He's got black. He's got a little sack that freezes you. He, you know, and so he starts air drumming there. And it seems like oh, he's just keeping himself entertained. But maybe he's like possessing the air. Like he's kind of puppeteering Carmen. I don't know because when he's air drumming, she gets so into it. That's an interesting read. It's I feel like he's more powerful than we even know. Oh, yeah, he is like making love, you know, he's like making love. Yes. Big, big cat sounds. He's roaring like a tiger at points or something. He's he's doing all sorts of stuff that's that. And when he leaves, when they somehow I couldn't figure out why they needed to raise money to send him back home. No idea. They do. They do. And he shows back up at the end. Yes. And I'm like, I have a lot of expendable cash. And why would Carmen want to get rid of him? Aren't they in love now? I'm rooting for them more than I am. Jason and I think I think they needed to send him home to get the king because that's it does make the appearance at the end of the movie. Yes. On the Creole and the coconuts show. Yes. So we got to get that. We got to get the king because I guess. Planned the original plan was let's send Nisa, our daughter, who knows the way of the white man to break in to the corporation of Petra Macau and a name that just kind of falls off the tongue. And she was I don't know what her plan was, besides just kind of breaking into his office and saying talk to him. Yes. And so when that plan goes awry, Joa gets arrested. She is now left just alone in the city. They have no plan. The plan is over the minute they don't get into the CEO's office. So then the plan is let's win a dance contest to get the word out about the destruction of the rainforest. Even that's not a plan until much later, because first she becomes a maid. Then she loses that job, but meets Jason. Then she works in the dance club slash brothel. By the way, that's so I need to talk about the I need to talk about the woman who has a switchblade in her bra. Yeah, I was obsessed with I'm obsessed with seventies and eighties movies obsession with switch blades, which I think is a 1950s nostalgia for like grease switch blades. You know, it feels dirty. The gangs, the gangs of the fifties, you know, like Fonzie switchblade type stuff. But like her having a switchblade just like click as if that's the most threatening thing that's ever existed. Well, I think that that guy thinks that he's, you know, she's going to chop off his dick. Oh, because by the way, that guy who just gets out of the one of the brothel rooms, like is immediately done, comes out shirt off, looking like like again, like a real poor man's albundi stomach out just kind of goes up to me. He says like you're next. Speaking, speaking of June, this might as well have been filmed on Little St. James. I don't know what this I don't know where this was. Very terrible. But it is. I'm pretty sure some of our cabinet members were in there. Yeah. And that main lady was a real Ghislaine Maxwell. I mean, it was real. It was really like she'll get comfortable when she's comfortable. You can come back. Yeah. God. I mean, but just because I just found it, his friends' names are Dave Kurt and weed. Oh my God. And by the way, they are all, like we said, they are all straight up racist. Like they meet Nisa. My rapists, their rapists and racist. And yes, honestly, one of the big problems I had in this movie was their apology at the end, which is such a non-apology. It's like, yeah, I'm sorry that happened. I'm sorry we lost control. And then she says no problem. Yeah. No problem. And we move on. I was well, she's forgiving. I mean, she saw them for what they are and she'll never trust them again. How about this? You know, who never apologizes and never gets their comeuppance is fucking Ashley, who sucks so hard and is the worst villain of the entire movie. When she's in the car with American Rutger, Howard, and and she's he says, you're just like your mother and she says, I'm outside like her, but inside I'm all daddy and he like holds her face in his hand. I was like, I want this car to blow up. I hated every second of it. Well, it looks like you've taken after your mother. Only on the outside. Inside I am all daddy. You must be one confused little girl. Hardly. Now you're still the hired gun for the tram go, aren't you? What do you want? It seems we have a mutual acquaintance, a certain Indian princess. I know an Indian princess. Oh, please save your act for the unwashed. I know she's as big a pain in the ass for the tram go as she is for me. So I thought it's about time we do something about her. Where can I find her? At this club creation, Jason and Nisa have been rehearsing here every afternoon. They're preparing a dance audition for the Kid Creole show. And if they make the audition, they're on national TV. I won't allow that to happen. Well, I didn't think you would. You can't let them go on TV and preach anti-American propaganda. Now, can we actually? What are you going to do to her? Let's just say I wouldn't do anything you wouldn't approve of. Awful. And I was like, she's a real villain and nothing. She never has any. Well, she doesn't win. She doesn't get to perform on Kid Creole and the coconuts. No, she doesn't. She doesn't have the talent to even do that. I do believe she is someone who now would be like full maga. Well, I mean, she also she does hire somebody, right? That guy, does she hire that cowboy guy like the common, like, kind of wreck the show at the end? I think what she does, I couldn't I couldn't actually hear. She sells them out. She sells them out to to American. Rutger Hauer, who works for Petra Company, right? So that he then gets them kidnapped. And how is she getting a line into Petra Miko or whatever? Like her dad, you know, her dad used to work with him. OK, and then why is why is Rutger Hauer back in the States? He's behind the scenes fixer. He's like a villain fixer who works with all the big corporate, you know, villains to to help them make the ozone worse, I guess. I mean, this is the look. We can't dig in on the climate change is very hard to kind of break down. This is why people don't believe it exists. You know, this movie, I think, simplifies. We didn't move the cause forward with this. Well, look, I mean, I mean, so much of the so many of the clumsy themes of this movie could not be more prescient for right now. It is chilling. Oh, by the way, I did feel like everyone in this movie was Maca, though. Yes. I mean, there are so many like slurs in this movie. First of all, she's brazilian. Casual casual slurs. Casual. And like she's brazilian. At times, though, before she opens her mouth and has any sort of like Portuguese accent before there, they all are like scum. Trash. I'm like, if you are right, well, you are racist, we're going to find out in two seconds. But on what basis right now in this moment, she has brown hair. By the way, they are so wild. They are also in Beverly Hills. They are in Los Angeles, right? Even in the 90s, I have to imagine that these people live in a diversity and they treat like Beverly like take that shit to the Eastside clubs as if like. You surprised how Maca Beverly. I get it. But I know that I'm not surprised. Paul's always defending the rich. I mean, I try to, you know, because they keep me they keep me fed. I will. There was a really funny line when they went, you know, she gets all those like slurs out, but she doesn't really take them in. And then she starts dancing. But she does say to Nisa does say to Jason, she said, I wrote this then. Fifty years ago, the government of Brazil forbid this dance because it's too sexy for Brazil to be used for to be that's like for Brazil in the forties. That's pretty amazing. I guess maybe in the forties, I guess in the forties, you couldn't do this dance. Yeah. And but when she does it, like, I guess I've again, I feel like the dance with the curtain was sexier than what we ever see on TV. But it never feels like a terrible dance. It's a it's it is a it's not a dance. It's sort of like a hip movement. It's completely soulless and joyless. I I I hated it. You want to feel like you're watching two people? Fuck. And I guess we answered the first question, which is like, I don't know if I want to watch Jason. Fuck. And I don't think that she is as good as a dancer to come. Like she was best when she was alone. It's interesting because we have existed. Most of our lives have existed in what I would say is like a renaissance of dance movies. Right. Subsequent to this movie, we have a lot of very good dance movies that have populated the 90s and 2000s. Prior to this, I think, Junior, mentioning dirty dancing, there really were very few movies that had dance as a component to it. And I do think these this movie and I'm I'm I suspect a Lombada, which I thought we had watched, were really all about the erotic nature of dance being transgressive. You know, yeah. And also, dance is usually usually in most dance movies, dance is a class issue. Dance is an economic differentiator. And it is sort of in this movie, too. Although I couldn't. I know you're saying, Jason, like the white Beverly Hills people in the dance cover, sort of just using their arms. I actually couldn't quite figure out what the real difference was in the dancing even. It didn't seem like what actually happened. It was just the closeness of their crotches. I feel like the camera is telling you what's different. Yeah, the camera is telling you by focusing on their midsections. It's saying this is the controversial thing we are willing to show. This movie is about this and it's this is so outrageous that it's making people in the crowd want to reach out and touch them because they want they are so absolutely turned on by this crazy dancing. You know, but now I think what they're trying to tell you, that's what I think. I'm doing a little work for the movie, but I think that's what it's. It's unsuccessful, but that's what it's trying to show. But the Calypso or King Clam or whatever his name is, he is also Calpley. OK, King Creel on the coconuts. Very real band, very real band. How dare you? I'm not kidding. King Creel and the coconuts, which they do perform a song that I had a lot of problems with. Was it called The Horror? Where I love that song. That was the best song in the movie. I mean, that was well. I feel like they're they're kind of like Latin, disco, Caribbean. So they're open to this kind of music. Like, I guess the idea is like, King Creel is the only person that will accept this kind of dancing. I don't even know if I don't know. I mean, yeah, I think this is just the audition that's happening. And I would say that that could be true if our other dancers like Ashley, et cetera, weren't trying so desperately to also win a spot on the Kid Creel competition. Yeah, because if Nisa hadn't shown up, Jason and Ashley would have been doing regular dancing. Oh, they're trying to still try and get in on Kid Creel and the coconuts. You know, that is the audition that's available that is going to, I guess, be the platform that changes the world. I mean, I will say, I will say, I'll be one kid Creel like takes the information from the king and from our witch doctor and from Nisha and Jason. Oh, like, oh, yeah, this company and they're making plastic. You know, they're neither on every product and they're causing this and they're taking over and, you know, kid Creel is like kind of takes it in like, oh, wow. OK, and then he's like, yeah, I mean, man, I guess I'm not going to buy any of those products anymore. The same Petrampco that we find on the supermarket shelves. That's the one we buy products they make every day. Not me, not anymore. The rainforest is too important. I say, if Petrampco is destroying the rainforest, well, then we should just boycott their ass. OK, back to Dan. We should boy he goes. He says we should boycott. We should boycott their stuff. Their stuff. And that is the last line of the movie. And then more dialogue. No, it's just dancing. And it's also like, I guess my point is it feels like for all that, the end moment is like, yeah, maybe. Right. It's so. Wouldn't you love to live in that world? Wouldn't you love to live in a world in which people can win a dance contest, get on kid Creel and the coconuts on TV. He calls for a boycott and substantial change happens. But to me, I'm also like, we don't know what this company even does. I'd love to know what their products are. Like we don't know what they like. It feels to me like they could be drilling for oil. We don't know what they are doing. So to boycott their products, it does feel like like, oh, OK, well, I wonder what they're behind. Like, you know, because it doesn't say, hey, we should stop buying their toilet paper and they're this and they're that. He just says, let's stop. And I guess I don't know for an audience of what, six to seven hundred people. Again, this looks like a very local show. It looks like a very local show, although I did say to June while we were watching it. Are those cue cards intentional or are they indicative of the shorter period of time of making this film? I think they were trying to show this. That is there's a TV show filming. You know, I mean, like a visual cue to tell you this is a TV show. Got it. Because there weren't a lot of other visual cues to tell you this was the TV show. Right. Because it looks exactly like the same club. It just looks like another scene in the dance club. Yes. Oh, my God. I have a question. Do you how did the shaman fly back from Brazil with a snake in his bag? Well, I mean, using black magic. I mean, yeah, very big snake. I mean, is that bag like a like a Hermione Granger bag that has like a limitless volume inside of it? I mean, let's even go to it. Let's go. Let's ask one question before that. How did they both get here without passports? They don't seem to have any ID, any money. 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He gets what she's doing with the curtain dance, but then he gets on the phone with Ashley and Ash is like, I can't go tonight. And he's like, oh, he's so mad. And cut to. Yeah. Nisha walking in with him. We never see what happened there and how she got his mom's dress. Yeah. And also how it fits her so good. That mom's body must be incredible. And then it also then she marches back into the house like like ain't nothing happened here. Yeah. That was a bad look for Nisa. The mom's real concern seems to be dry cleaning. She's like, I just had to. Oh, now I got to bring her back to the dry cleaner like as if she sweats so much in it. Well, I mean, they did go dancing. Yeah, I would bring it to the dry cleaner. Paul, she they never look like they're catching a sweat. And we've watched plenty. I've watched to save the last dance. I mean, I'm getting that dress dry cleaned. Oh, you have to get it dry. Yeah, you got to get it. Drag queen, drag queen drag queen drag queen. We got to get that dress drag queen. You got to get the drag queens back in it. Man, oh, man. So all right. So I loved I loved how scared the parents were that he was dancing so much. He Jason repeatedly turns down alcohol because he's driving. We never see them doing drugs. We he's nothing. He's portrayed as nothing but a genuinely good boy whose only vice is dancing. Yeah, the best the best line was at one point. But during this conversation where he's his parents are really going after him for dancing, he says, Mother, I dance. Your father and I don't feel it's fair to us that you spend your time running in and out of dance clubs. Mother, I dance. I like it and I'm good at it. I mean, this is very loose coated. Like, yes, they're like, we're from Beverly Hills. We don't dance, which would then also if I'm writing this movie. And again, if they only wrote in 10 days, so give him a lot of credit. Like he should be leaving Beverly Hills to go downtown to go to different clubs. See how they had a family dancing. Well, that's the thing. Baby goes to where the where the other people are dancing sexy, not how Patrick's. Patrick Swayze is teaching like proper like ballroom dancing at the resort. But they're doing dirty dancing by night at night. And and baby has to go there. Jason Baby doesn't go anywhere to learn the Lombada. The Lombada just comes to him. And he's basically dancing. Jason Baby needs a Swayze. We do. Jason Baby needs a Swayze. That's the T-shirt. I mean, there it is, Molly. It's a personal ad. It's a personal ad. Jason Baby needs a Swayze. Oh, I love that. I do believe that like even the club that they're at is essentially like the max from Save by the Bell at night. Right. It's like, it's, you know, it looks just like the max. And there's nothing going on. But then when the DJ plays, hey, I'm going to play the Lombada. The entire dance floor clears out. Yeah. Like no one's on the dance floor but them. And I'm like, at that point, you're a bad DJ because you're playing a song that clears the dance floor and you don't change a damn thing. So the DJ. What's also interesting is then then Nisa and Jason step out and they start dancing and it's going so well that everybody jumps in and is like turned on by the music. Like the movies trying to tell us, I feel like the rest of the movies plot wants us to believe they're the underdogs. But like every time they do the dance, it catches on. So they are nothing but like they're not being held down. They're only being lifted up in every one of the dance sequences. You know. So I guess the idea is like it is taking everybody by storm. But we never really get that because even his friends at the end, they apologize for being racist, but I think they're really apologizing just because they won the contest and rapist. But I do also want to talk about the power of this dance because I do think there is something to be said for like how it hypnotizes men. When we see those men, look, they're creepy, but they also seem completely hypnotized by her. Like I mean, do you mean the three or four men in a dance circle? Yes, in the business suits, just staring at her. Yeah. While people in leather, people in leather, it's a leather club. I mean, there are people in full like SNM gear on a stage and on platforms. She's on the dance floor. I will say there's a confusing amount of contradictory subcultures represented in very few number of people in this club. Yes. That's why we might be reading too much because there's not a lot of people to look at. Yeah. And everybody seems to represent a different subsect of the culture or of a subculture, which was I just felt like the movie just were throwing everything at the movie. And in a lot of ways, nothing ends up sticking because you're just like, what what am I following exactly? And boy, do I wish they would be getting better at dancing and they are just not. Yeah, they are just not. You know, that now I am. I mean, this movie, look, did it make me question, you know, what these companies are doing to the rainforest? Absolutely. Why? Because I was brought in through sex, sex cells. Why aren't we doing more sex with our PSAs? Like, that's what I think that that I'm getting from this movie. Let's make a sexy PSAs from now on. You know, show a little show a little butt. Show a little leg. Show a little chest. You know what I'm saying? Let's get the war out. This is like this is a movie that is like that is a about an an erotically charged dance at a time that is very conservative. Like we were coming out of the very conservative 80s, very the religious right, the the Reagan era kind of conservatism that is, you know, and we're about to be in the period of the PMRC and and and and labeling music and finally talking about what this movie is trying to get out there. Yes. And the Lombada was the thing that broke is about to get out of jail. Manuel Noriega is finally captured, right? And Germany was reunified. I guess I just wish it was a sexy dance. I love it. I would love it. I would love it as well. She was. I do too. You know, you know what confounded me when when they arrive at Carmen's apartment and she offers that she and Nisa sleep on the couches in the living room. And that Jason has the bed. And I was so and now I know he's just been beat up, right? Like that's fine. He's always throwing punches though. That's fine. But you're not going to catch me offering a man a bed while I sleep on the couch. Like that was just so. So tall for the couch, June. The movie both wants Jason to be. He needs to learn from Nisa. But also it's a white savior movie for him. You know what I mean? Like it is. Yes, it is. It's trying to have it both ways, which is, you know, just terrible. And he is like the prince who is like, Oh, well, you're the man. So you get the bed and we'll be out here. But but I couldn't then figure out and I'll just push back one level is is Carmen trying to carve out space for Jason and Nisa to have the bed together. Is she like, is she for see it? She's like, because she's basically like, why don't you go get in there? And then she slides a condom under the door. So maybe part of it in my mind. I'm Carmen. I'm doing a lot of physical labor during the day. I'm I'm I'm going to sleep in my own bedroom. OK, I'm a brown fucking woman. I'm going to sleep in my own bedroom and I will I will retire early and let you to young but the foul. My couch. Yeah. Have the couch and do what you need to do out there. But I'm not offering up my bed for a stranger to have sex in a strange man. Is it so strange? But June, but doesn't she don't you think that she's doing that for the good of the rainforest? She's like, they have to fuck so they win the contest. Can save the day. So what? Can save the day? Yeah, I mean, this is the movie has, you know what this movie interestingly in contrast to so, so, so, so, so many of our other movies. This movie has no zero exposition dumps. This movie has no plot recaps. This move. No characters ever say what their plan is or what they're trying to do or recap where they are in the process. It is just happening to it. It feels as though the movie is happening to them in real time. Well, you said this. You said this thing about, you know, you said, oh, well, you know, they're practicing for weeks. I believe that they this whole movie takes place over the course of, you know, four or five days. Yeah. Same. And I just based that on outfit changes. Oh, yeah, I know. But it did. It also I had the same thought as Paul. I think this is maybe the 48 hour period. But maybe I also couldn't understand how much time went by at the club because I kind of think we were supposed to believe that because of the lumbata because for prize lumbata lady, that business was booming because they had a sign out there. Well, right. There's more. And they're making a lot of money there. Switching lady, you mean switch lady. Yeah. And then our security guard is in a really nice suit all of us. And so I'm like, oh, is she I love that security guard. You know, she the big well, like is she really like making coin here? She's in demand. They're setting her up to both be this incredibly desired dancer who is also pure. She has not. She doesn't do any of the upstairs work. They say so many times that she hasn't yet taken anybody upstairs into like the bedrooms, you know, and then she says to Jason, I'll take you upstairs. So you're my first, you know, which I was like, what is happening in this movie? The only scene, though, that was at least now I didn't understand it because she switches like seconds later and is like trying to save him. But at least in that moment where she's like so angry with him and angry about everything that's happened and she's telling him she's going to take him upstairs and he's like, no, no, no, I don't want you to. I don't want you to at least I was like, oh, something interesting is happening between these two people. It's I don't really understand why, but I am engaged in whatever conflict this is. Well, wouldn't it have been interesting if the movie? I mean, and this isn't the movie we watched, obviously, but right. If the movie was interrogating him, Richie Rich, Beverly Hills kid, really having to go into another world because of meeting and encountering this woman. And really, it is about like you were saying, June class and it is about, you know, race and it is about all these elements that are that are in this movie, but are just really not being spoken to really. Yeah. Right. No, no, he doesn't. He doesn't have time for that, guys. It doesn't have time for that. All right. Yeah, we got to do the Lombada again. I mean, this guy, we're realizing that through dance, he's not a racist like all of his friends. He's also not a rapist like all of his friends. Yeah, he's in Beverly Hills, but maybe sleeping during the day and he's a vampire. Like, you know, he's he's getting his life force or something different. And I don't know. I would love if it turned out that he was a vampire. I would love to see. I mean, he is he's more physically violent than I would assume for a character like this. He breaks the traditional mold of a Beverly Hills rich kid. He doesn't have any of those things like, you know, and I feel like he's always throwing punches in fights that he is not going to win. And what does he break his ankle from like a four foot drop falling? Yeah, falling like so little. Yes, so little like a curb is like a double curb. You know, a short way. And luckily it's like he hangs. He's hanging there for like maybe six or seven seconds. He has zero upper body strength. Like he could have he could have held on for a long. He is what you're talking because so much of his Beverly Hills dancing is upper body is just upper body. You know, his shoulders and and arms would be just jacked. I laughed so hard when he fell. I mean, it was truly such a short distance. Well, I know that I was also like, you knew you were falling that distance. Like if I was up there, I would look down. You have you have the time to kind of cushion that fall as best as possible. I did not think there was any reason he should have broken ankles. Yeah, especially as a dancer. Oh, yeah. But thank God, the shaman is there with the snake to heal him. Thank God. With a venomous snake bite, I assume. I mean, incredible stuff. I think it's interesting. I what it's something that I find captivating about this is she is positioned in a way that is people are captivated by her. People cannot take their eyes off of her. Her movement is hypnotic. Everything people are driven feral by her presence. And what is it? Twenty years later, she plays such a similar role in Mulholland Drive. Oh, Laura Herring. You know, like like still has this magnetic appeal that is that David Lynch uses to be like, oh, I cannot this person is entrancing in some way. This person is somehow I cannot is captivating me in some way. There's a link there that I was like, oh, wait a minute. This is Laura Herring from Mulholland Drive. Yeah. Well, listen, she is captivating. She is. Oh, yeah. She's like a five time Miss America, right? Like she's got like a crazy. Pass here's the problem with the movie. Laura Herring is absolutely captivating and I could I could watch her all day. But she's not captivating as a dancer. And if we had just photographed her and filmed her in this movie, doing something else and leaving the, you know, I think she would be captivating. But in here, inside this movie, once she's dancing and we're not really just on her face, it falls apart. No, we need the movie needed because dance is the transaction that needs to like emotionally get you there. The dancing just doesn't seal the deal. I would I would be curious and perhaps forgive me, Paul, if this research has already been done, please, I would be curious for us to do the other Lombada movie. Well, this is viewed as the worst of the two, but I am so down to take you up on that because again, maybe it's not worth it. And I genuinely mean that. I'm not saying we should. I'm sure I'm just curious as a as a comparison. I would I would love to see. I would actually love to see the Lombada. I would love to see a better Lombada. Well, let me tell you some. Let me tell you something about the other Lombada film. They do not use the song Lombada, nor do they dance the Lombada in the other Lombada because they had the name, but not the song. And this one has the song, but not the name. Exactly. And I mean, the story here, I'll just give you a little bit more of it here. You said that this is, you know, a golden, gobless, you know, kind of thing. So basically the producer writer of this is Menem Golan. And, you know, he comes, obviously, with Yoram Globus. And so they have that studio we've done a lot of different movies about. And they basically him and his cousin, they turned out like 125 movies in the 80s. Right. So it's like all the Chuck Norris movies, everything that we've really done on the show, but in 87 things start going bad for Canon films. They kind of have all these flops like Superman 4 and Master of the Universe, which we also did on the show. They are facing bankruptcy. And and basically Golan says, you know what? It's all Globus' fault. And he leaves to start his own company and they don't the cousins don't speak anymore. But then when Lombada becomes this phenomenon, both of them are racing into production to make this their savior movie. Like there's so wait a minute. So the two Lombada movies, one is Golan and one is Globus. Yes, exactly. Oh, that's incredible. So then Globus goes, my film is going to be released on May 4th. And then Golan's like mine will be released on April 6th. And then they're like these lawsuits. That's how Lombada is pulled from the name. And then Golan gets the song. And then Globus does not get the song. And then Golan takes out a two page add in variety, announcing that the forbidden dance is going to open in March. And and then I love it. And it's in variety. It says I'm proud and honored to have had the opportunity to create the one and only original Lombada film that truly depicts the Lombada dance. And then Globus is like, fuck, I got to release mine at the same time. And so, yeah. Yeah, so that makes this so that makes so much more sense than why these exist. It's because it seems like it's personal. Yes. You know, it feels like it feels like antagonistic towards each other, not just randomly two people came up with the same. No, it's a guy who basically have created trash, both chasing the same trash. It's ethics and basically Lombada, I think because of the name recognition, makes two point nine million on opening weekend opening at number eight. Meanwhile, the forbidden dance makes seven hundred and twenty one thousand and comes in fourteenth place. So like so, you know, Lombada wins. Lombada always is winning. I mean, here's the reality. Here's the reality. The audience wins. The audience wins. Two different Lombada movies. Obviously, look, there's so much to break down here. But I think that what we understand is this movie worked. It stopped and protected the rainforest. It is created so many great things. And we had some problems with it, but there are people out there that think this is a perfect movie. It is now time for second opinions. The movie was a piece of shit. Yet this person recommends it. Tell me what is the message? Maybe that art is subjective. I need a second opinion. You'll be happy to know that there are less than a thousand reviews for this film. So this is not a film that's really broken through, but 82 percent of them are five star reviews and Mischie in 2018 writes, I love this movie as a teen as an adult, still a good movie touches on a few ecological issues, too, which is what pulled me to it as a teen. Recommend watching five stars. A few ecological issues. What are the I mean, one that just seems like don't destroy the. It doesn't seem like it gets into the nitty gritty in any in any way beyond. We're not getting into like fossil fuels or anything else other than just like the Amazon rainforest. Yeah, it really is the ozone layer and the destruction of the rainforest, which in this time period is the only climate change level event. You know, we're not talking about clean coal here. No, yeah. This is I don't even really understand the plan just to burn it all down. It does seem like that's a waste of. Well, that's the thing that's so funny is like this kind of a movie like, you know, your Saturday Night Fever's your, you know, your dance type, your dirty dancing. It really is about the dance that really allows you to become yourself or to reach to dance your own steps or to win the contest. But in this case, winning the contest means saving the rainforest. It is the stakes are so big. The movie exists on such a small street level that the that it's its message is massive. Well, and that's in the idea. Ideally, if things are burning it down, my thought is that it's primarily probably for like cattle ranching or agriculture in some way. So this is the company of their boycotting. They're like, don't eat meat. So is it also a movie that they say that the company, you know, that company, there's their products are in are in your supermarkets. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, are they a food company? I mean, like again, it's when I'm looking at why you're burning down the rainforest, you're talking about mining for gold or copper or oil agriculture. It doesn't seem like. But again, we have to. That's why we need the prequel about Petricho with the Rosencrantz and Guilders turn of this film. This movie from Akbar is a little sexually charged, written in April 14th of 2002. Akbar writes, this was the most sensuous movie I've ever seen. When you try to be sensuous, it often doesn't work. But when you make a movie like this one and allow a talent to express, the results are here. OK, and this movie. Bow Wow. Oh, five stars. I wish it hadn't ended with Bow Wow. Five stars. I can't right now. And I will just end with Sweet Cherry for you on IMDB, who gave it 10 out of 10 stars. And Sweet Cherry says, although this movie obviously didn't attract many viewers, it's one of the best movies I've ever seen with music and dance. The forbidden dance is not only entertaining for the viewers, but it also lets everyone know that there are problems in the world that people need to think about, such as the rainforest issue. Ten stars. The rainforest issue. Yes, we are not talking about the rainforest issue. So I mean, I will say on some level, releasing a mainstream movie as the like that is the message is not to say, like you said, not to save the rec center, not to save something. It's like it's a big issue. And and I do think that that's probably the boldest part of it. Oh, I mean, I mean, for I would say for for a globus and Golem kind of movie to have it have a an ecological message is kind of shocking. Yeah. And, you know, the ozone hole has been healed. Yes. So there we go. Way to healing. We did. I guess now, I guess because of this movie, I guess this movie's mission accomplished on the on the aircraft carrier. I will say I did hear the Joa did fly in an F-16 jet with a snake and put the snake to where the hole in the ozone was and sucked it close. I mean, that snake can you can suck out venom. They can suck out broken bones and can fix the ozone layer. We get Joe up there with the snake. I do just want to one more time. Please remind everybody that at the audition, not at the final, but at the audition, the judge, the judge's name is Mama Coconut. I really, I really that was important to me. I was, I don't want, I want to foreground that. And I know I said she's wearing an Amy Sherman Paladino hat earlier because this character appears to be dropped in. I believe she is genuinely a kid Creole's manager or something because. First of all, her energy, Mama Coconut's energy while watching that and also like looking at kid Creole, like it was so fascinating. In fact, like it was like she was so happy. Yes. Yes. She was so lit up inside that I couldn't to your point, it felt like she never been on screen before. She just looked so happy to be there. Certainly wasn't playing any sort of discernment or like it wasn't sort of reminding us of the stakes of this really intense audition. Once again, the dance captivated everyone, including Mama Coconut. Right. But Mama Coconut was also seen captivated by our villains dance. She was just seemed so like there was no critical eye from her. I think she was happy to be in a movie. I let me tell you, can I just tell you just again, you know, we're talking about a real person here, Mama Coconut is now is the lead singer of this band is August Darnell. All right. And Mama Coconut is now Darnell's wife. You know, sorry. The coconut, I believe the coconuts were the kid Creoles, kid Creole. And the coconuts, I believe are the female singers. OK, so Darnell's now wife, Eva Tudor Jones, was Mama Coconut for more than 20 years. And now she manages all of their operations. And they're still on tour. They can go see them this year, as a matter of fact, they're they're in Europe right now, as we speak. So, you know, there's a lot. There's a lot going on in the coconut world. I will say this, June, I know that you said you needed to speak a little bit about the sexiest kiss you've ever seen on film. When Jason and Nisa kiss and how they really are sucking in lips there. It was disgusting. Wait, when? I don't remember. They're on a bet. Maybe it was maybe it was when they were in time and it's a part. Yeah, I think that's when it happens, right? Oh, OK. It was so disgusting. And it was like, there's no tongue because they kept on. There was like a side view. And so we just kept on watching their faces, their lips smashed into each other, open, open mouths, like sort of like, you know, to fish like to fish going at each other. Sure. But I'm going to use this word. I hate to say this, but it looked so dry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look like two dry mouths, like fish, fish on the sand kind of like. The kiss that I got that I was very disturbed by. There's a kiss during the dance sequence where why so much kissing during the day he puts her on to the ground of the laser down on the floor of a nightclub and kisses her on the ground. I was like, this is disgusting. This is get out of there. You guys both need a shower now. Jesus, it was so gross. So gross. Would you recommend people watch this film? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've enjoyed talking to you two about it. And Paul, I do feel like we we enjoyed it last. Yeah, absolutely. I said the wrong word to use, but we watched it and we had some laughs. Definitely watched the movie. Definitely watched it and it wasn't too long. It wasn't too long at one hour. If it if it if it had been even 10 more minutes longer, I would have hated it. But it really is the right length. It really was the right length and it wasn't, you know, and I'd say most of the movie is a montage. Yeah. So you really don't have to pay attention. No, and then sometimes that's when characters will say something is like, was that established? No, it wasn't. And again, the MVP for me is, of course, Joe, today's episode, of course, is, you know, to support the rainforest, just like the movie. I think we need to start, you know, kind of putting a post credits tag on our show. You know, it's dedicated to the rainforest. 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