Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Jennifer Lawrence

56 min
Jan 20, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Amy Poehler interviews actress Jennifer Lawrence about her career trajectory, production company Excellent Cadaver with partner Justine Cherokee, recent film work including Causeway, and personal reflections on fame, motherhood, and creative control in Hollywood.

Insights
  • Female friendships and creative partnerships in entertainment can drive sustained career success and authentic storytelling when built on shared values and mutual growth
  • Early exposure to female directors as a teenager shaped Lawrence's understanding of directorial possibilities and influenced her career trajectory toward production and creative control
  • Authenticity and transparency in public-facing roles creates deeper audience connection than carefully curated personas, despite the risks of misquotation and media distortion
  • Production partnerships between actors and creative collaborators can democratize filmmaking and enable more meaningful, character-driven projects than traditional studio models
  • The logistics and infrastructure of filmmaking (call sheets, set dynamics, post-production involvement) matter as much to creative fulfillment as performance itself
Trends
Female-led production companies gaining prominence in independent and prestige film productionActors increasingly seeking directorial and production roles to control narrative and creative outputShift toward stripped-back, introspective performances in prestige cinema over high-profile blockbuster rolesLong-term creative partnerships between actors and producers replacing transactional project-based relationshipsTransparency and authenticity in celebrity communication becoming competitive advantage in parasocial relationshipsFemale directors breaking through in prestige film with debut features gaining industry recognitionGenerational shift in how millennials approach work-life balance and creative fulfillment in entertainment
Topics
Female-led production companies and creative partnershipsDirectorial ambitions and creative control in acting careersPrestige film production and independent cinemaAuthentic celebrity communication and media managementMotherhood and career balance in entertainmentFemale directors in film industryCharacter-driven performances and acting craftProduction logistics and set dynamicsGenerational differences in career approachFashion and personal style as self-expressionReality television consumption and cultural trendsSurvival and competition reality TV formatsChildhood influences on career trajectoryFriendship dynamics in professional partnershipsPost-production involvement and creative oversight
Companies
Excellent Cadaver
Production company co-founded by Jennifer Lawrence and Justine Cherokee that produced films including Causeway and Di...
People
Justine Cherokee
Producer and co-founder of Excellent Cadaver production company; longtime best friend and creative partner of Jennife...
Brian Tyree Henry
Actor who starred alongside Jennifer Lawrence in the film Causeway, praised for his performance as a physically and s...
Lila Neugebauer
Director of Causeway, making her feature film directorial debut after working as a theater director
Aubrey Plaza
Childhood friend of Justine Cherokee from Wilmington, Delaware; performed together in community theater as children
Josh Hutcherson
Actor who worked with Jennifer Lawrence and developed a brother-like relationship with her during collaborations
Robert Pattinson
Actor who worked with Jennifer Lawrence and developed a brother-like relationship with her during collaborations
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Comedian and actress described by Amy Poehler as the 'LeBron James of comedy' for her success across multiple comedy ...
Lily Allen
Music artist whose recent album was recommended by Jennifer Lawrence as current music she is enjoying
Quotes
"My first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast. And also that she had this like abandoned and lack of self-consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends."
Justine CherokeeEarly in episode
"I think that when I do press, I should do half than what normal people do. Because I see my quotes and they, like, they're insane."
Jennifer LawrenceMid-episode
"Big goes with big. If it's going to be tight, if you're going to have a baggie and a tight, you cannot ever have tight on the bottom baggie on the top."
Jennifer LawrenceFashion discussion
"I think she's going to really show us she's going to save things. So chop chop."
Jennifer LawrenceGenerational discussion
"You like women. And it shows. What you do all the time that I think women do for each other is you like, you tell the real, real behind something."
Amy PoehlerMid-episode
Full Transcript
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today, Jennifer Lawrence. Jen and I, we have a good time, man. We laugh a lot in this episode and we talk about a lot of great things, her incredible career, the surprising parts of parenthood. Her long torso, my short legs. And we do what we always like to do here in Good Hang. We sing along to Shania Twain. But before we get started, we want to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who can speak well behind her back and give me a question to ask this guest. And we are joined by Justine Cherokee. Justine is a producer. She runs Excellent Cadaver, the production company that's produced films like Causeway and Die My Love and her and Jen have been friends forever. So Justine, are you there? Let's get started. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Nespresso for those who never compromise on their morning rituals, especially their coffee ritual. Nespresso's new Virtuo Up makes your first cup irresistible. With a three second start, easy open lever and dedicated coffee creations mode button, it's even easier to brew bold coffee over ice or milk. It's your coffee your way. Nespresso. Shop now exclusively at nespresso.com and use code Amy to receive a set of Lumay coffee mugs when you spend $50 or more while supplies last. Hey girl. Hi. I'm really happy to talk to you today because I mean, I think the stuff that you guys have done together is really, really special, but also you just shared a long history together as people in the world and friends. Well, that's very generous of you to say. Obviously, we've been enormous fans for 100 years. So it's like such an honor to talk to you and I'm like pinching myself. And she's too that she's coming on the podcast. Oh my God. She's so good at podcasts. I mean, she's so good at talking. That's that's her shit. Too late. Now, before we start talking about Jennifer, I do want to talk about you. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. I actually think we have Aubrey Plaza in common. I grew up with Aubrey and did community theater with her. You did? Your childhood, yes. Yes. You guys went to the same, like you were in the same town. Yeah, we went to the same elementary school and we both were any community theater at the Wilmington Drone League in a steamed venue for like most of our, most of our childhood. Oh my gosh. What was baby Plaza like? Exactly the same as adult Plaza. Yeah. It hasn't changed a bit. The greatest, the greatest. That's what a small world. And so the two of you are like, they're doing shows and performing. And then where does that take you after you graduate? I didn't really know where I would fit in film. And so I, you know, took a bunch of odd jobs and explored and during that period, I met Jen. And what was your first impression of her when you met? My first impression of Jen was that she was a wild beast. And also that she had, because Jen didn't have like a traditional education, she also swirled a lot of the like social anxiety that I think a lot of people our age had been plagued with. So Jen had this like abandoned and lack of self-consciousness that was really unfamiliar to all of our friends. So we were sort of like wide eyed by her. And I think that that's something that she still possesses all these years later. It's something that she hasn't outgrown her. She's never, yeah, she's, she has not become jaded by her totally surreal lifestyle. So how do you go from two young women like sitting on a couch in a small LA apartment to running this big company and making these big movies? Like how does that work? Oh, man. I mean, it's a loaded question. I think that we met as young women and obviously developed our taste together. We were discovering film together. Everything from long car Y to sex in the city, you know, like it ran the gamut. And I also think that we became best friends. And so what we care about similar things were moved by similar things. We have similar reactions to life and what's happening in the world. And that really is the basis for our decision making around what we take on as producers. So I think the obviously like extraordinary happenstance of Jen Jen's young success and her being in this incredible position to get things made. And then Jen and I continuing to like care for our relationship and continuing to grow together. And so I think the Odyssey has involved a ton of hard work and care and all the things you would imagine. And also us continuing to grow and being excited to elevate each other. And also I loved Causeway. Oh, thank you. Such a beautiful movie. I want to talk to Jen about it. I just, it's just a great, great movie. Beautiful director, Lila. I love Lila. Brian is so, Brian Tyree Henry is so good. Jen is so convincing as the character that she plays like a physically and kind of spiritually wounded vet who's returning home. It's so good. Such a good movie. It's, it's always so nice to see Jen in those roles where the kind of like stripped back quieter performances where it's so much of it is just happening in her eyes, you know? I don't, I mean, I don't, I don't know how to act like that. Like I mean, we were kind of talking about, we were talking about interviewing her and you know, it's hard and I'd be like, you're so good at acting. But she is so good at acting. She's, she's good. How you fucking good? Like, are there times when you're watching her and you're like, damn, she's really good at acting. Every time, every time. Like I, I sat on probably 11 sets with Jen and every time my mind just is like blowing out of my face, I'm like still, like it does not get old. She just levels up every time. You know her really well. You know, sometimes we, we ask people to talk well behind our guests back and they've worked with them or they kind of know that, but you, you know her really, really well. You've known her for a really long time and your deep partners in, in, in work and your loving friends in life. And what do you think I should ask her today? What do you want to know about here about or what do you think she'd want to talk about or a story she'd want to tell? Oh, man. I mean, with Jen, it's funny because she is so like transparent in the faces. Like I don't think that she's somebody who, where there are like a ton of subjects that are off limits. Well, it's okay. That's really helpful because I've been prepping for the interview and I don't want to put her in an uncomfortable position ever to ask her something she doesn't want to talk about, but she also feels really well aware of what she feels comfortable talking about, I guess. I think she is. And I think she'll also like tell you. Like I think that she, I think like she'll pivot. If she needs to, you never have to answer a question if you don't want to answer. And it is, and it's a magic trick to not answer it. And people often forget that what question they asked. I mean, this is a good thing to tell a guest. Probably. This is probably not a good thing to get. But anyway, do you have, it doesn't have to be a heavy question. It can be something small, anything that you think we should ask her today. I mean, gosh, like maybe because she's in a position of constantly being asked questions and she is never in charge of what is being asked. Like maybe it's asking her, like what would you like to talk more about that you don't feel? Whoa, that's a good friend. And if you don't have the opportunity to declare, you know, maybe she is a big announcement. Or just something that she'd like to like reflect on. You know what, that's a really good friend because what you're basically saying is just check in with her and see if there's anything else she wants to talk about. Yeah, it's so true. What she like is tired of talking about, you know, not to. Yeah. What are you, what do you want? It's basically like you're at the TSA and it's like what do you want to declare? And what perishables would you like to get rid of? Totally. Yeah. Well, no, but thank you so much. And I will give your best to Aubrey Plaza. I like picturing you guys being weird together in Wilmington. Yeah, that's the right picture. Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for having me have a question. All right. Nice talking to you. I can watch her. See you later. Okay. Take care. Bye. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking that your car is in park before getting out. 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Oh my God, that's the only thing you need to say to me. And what is your, I want to know how do you pick clothes? What is your relationship to clothes? Thank you so much. We'd love to talk about this. I'll just. Because I'm fascinated because I'm struggling with mine. I, well, I have a very opinionated friends one in particular, very opinionated friend. And we, we, I do, I do a lot of closet cleanouts, I think living in New York helps with that. Yeah. I don't have a lot of excess stuff that confuses me. I have things that I really like. Do you think about, do you plan your outfits for the, I mean, obviously with press, it's different. I mean, I, I, I do it like mentally. I like start kind of planning something. And I, I take my kid to school. And I know that I'm going to get photographed. Right. So I, I do kind of do like a mental like, like, like, what do I, how do I want to present today? No. No. Because, because the answer is always the same. Today I want to present this like, effortless, but, you know, like, I don't need to. I don't need to. How should we get the name? I don't know what I put on. And you know, it also is really important to remember. Tell me. You can write it down. I'm ready. Big goes with big. Okay. This is a tall girl. This is tall. This is tall. If it's going to be, if it's, no, but if it's going to be, if it's going to be tight, if you're going to have a baggie and a tight, you cannot ever have tight on the bottom baggie on the top. Are you look like a lamp? You can have baggie on the bottom and tight on the top. But you cannot do the other way around. Tell you something about baggie on the bottom. I wore a baggie on the bottom for you today. You did? Yeah. I'll show you later. I've, I've baggie pants. I'm so sure it's like it's tough. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough to go baggie on the bottom. But I have shots for a really long torso. Yeah. And big thick meaty arms. So okay, it's a long torso. I see. Then that silhouette. You know your silhouette. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, I mean, I know. You got great. Knowing is not loving. Do you have a great style? I mean, I, and I, and, and like you, like, I'm always just looking to see how women are dressing. Yeah. Like not, not, like, just truly like, how do we not just the style? I try to take mental notes. Yeah. When I see something. And when I actually feel comfortable, it feels like such a wind. Yeah. To wear something that you feel like you look good in and you also feel good in. It's like a hard thing to think. Yeah. You feel like you're like representing yourself accurately. Yeah. Yeah. Or the worst thing is like when you're like, I think I nailed it. You see the picture years later. I'm not even years later. Oh my god. You're like, I remember feeling really good. Yeah. I had that recently because I was postpartum, but I was like, but I, but I had like, and in my, with my second, I had like bad postpartum. So like I wasn't eating. So I felt really skinny. Right. But I wasn't inside. Yeah. I was like strapless. Let's do this. And my baby was like three weeks old. I mean, you, like, a lot of people, like we're working through a lot of your pregnancies. And that's also a weird thing too because you're like, your, your body is kind of, you're like bringing your body along for the ride. Well, I was surprised more people haven't talked about how skinny I am and I my love because I'm pregnant. And I've been waiting in the week. Nobody's like, wow, you were pregnant. You looked so skinny. Like I've never had a nose epic rumor. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. After this, after this, we're going to take this frame and we're going to squeeze it down. No, but it is true. It's like, when you talk about no, but I, I love what you've been talking about. We're going to, we have so many things to talk about today. And I just want to start by saying, this is what I've gleaned from meeting you briefly and, and feeling like I, and I know people who know you really well and just like, I don't, I don't want to talk about them. They ask me to be loved. I'm best friends with your mom. You seem, and I know it's going to sound cheesy, but you like women. Oh, yeah. I know, but I do. You do. And it shows what do you think I like love white men? Oh, my God. I can't just be their champion. There's so many misunderstood. You always like, wait, think about the other side. Not all men. I have it at tattoo. But you know, you, and the reason why, to me, it's not what you say. It's not what one says is what they do. What you do all the time that I think women do for each other is you like, you tell the real, real behind something. Like you, you, you, you talk about like, this was difficult. Or I'm thinking about this or like, you basically, I think when people stay mysterious, it's like a disservice to women. It's just like, okay, you know, and you do this thing that I really appreciate that comes through, which is you're trying to be honest in real time and trying to connect. And I think that's, I think that's what women do for other women when they like women. It's the best way to say things. And so like today, when I was thinking about our interviews, like, I've been really hearing you talk about how you're trying to figure out the balance between who do I want to be and what, like what parts of me do I want to give out to the rest of the world? And what parts do I want to keep for myself, which feels like very like 30s? Totally. Where are you at right now with the balance of that? Because you are so famous and so real. Oh, thank you. And those two things are not always the case. Right. I think that when I do press, I should do half than what normal people do. Because I see my quotes and they, like, they're insane. Like Jennifer Lawrence calls it corny a carnation, annoying. It's just two, you know. Yeah, it's, you're right. It's, it's, but it carries. It carries. But it's, well, first of all, honestly, it's funny because it's, you're so funny. Thank you. And the third piece of the puzzle will say is that you're very, you feel like a real Protestant. You're very, very, very, you've had your hand on my knee this entire interview. It's, and it's a long stretch. You've really long these pants are back. No, you're, you're, you're famous and, uh, erotic and real and deeply funny. Like, oh my god, you know, I do that. That's like coming from you. You're my hero, dude. But I don't say that to everybody. And you know, god is fair. Like, usually you don't have all those things going at once. Usually you have like very like important interesting actor who's like really good at acting, but maybe like, you know, maybe not the funniest or you have a deeply funny person who you wouldn't maybe believe in a scene, but you can do both. Thank you. I can do this all day. Well, I'm glazing as the kids like to say. What's, is that what they say? You don't know. Glazing. We've got kids. What do you want to know about teens? I know everything. You have two boys. I have two boys. I'm, I, you know, I missed my window to really ask about six, seven. I know that it's like, it's over now. I know. I missed the window. So I don't even actually anything that we know is over. Right. By the time we know, like your mom, yeah. Like if the New York Times is writing about it, it's, it's over. Okay. No one's saying it anymore. But to explain, I really really like boots. Like, like, like, like instead of period boots, but that's from drag race. I'm deceased. Boots like, like a, like a, like, well, like period end of boots. Right. I feel like period still around. I feel like you're supposed to replace it with boots. I think, or that's just a gay culture thing. I don't actually know. Yeah. Um, we could, I have a laptop. We could look it up. We could spend. We care. Chechy PT. Hello. Do we still say boots? Young culture. Just gay monoculture. But I'm asking for a friend. But what is it for? You're, in your mid 30s now. You are, I bet you're starting to feel just, just what you just expressed, which is like old old. Oh, yeah. But it's weird, right? Because you're, you do not feel old and one does not really feel old in their 20s. My assistant is 23. Okay. And so like, I was doing like a closet clean out yesterday. And she was like, oh, my God, these are like real skinny jeans. Like, like, she was like, she was like, wow, they really do go in at the bottom. And I'm like, and we were talking about baby mama. I don't make so funny. So funny. She was like, that was probably like the first comedy I ever saw. And I was like, how old were you? Seven. You're millennial? Yeah. Like mid millennial. Like, I don't know when it begins or ends. But I mean, I was born in 90. You know, there's this, I feel like you would like this, but we'll probably cut it. But there's this book that I'm obsessed with called the fourth turning. And it's all about how 80 years of history just keep repeating itself. And we're kind of getting at the end of the chaos era, which makes sense, right? For the past like 20, whatever years. But it's like each generation throughout the years have come forward to save like, you know, different eras from peril. And the millennials are going to be the heroes in the next, the next good luck. I'm so tired. I would believe in you. And I wish you the best of life. I was hoping that these kids would save us. It's you guys. And I feel like that makes sense because we've really, you know, I'm Gen X, we everybody like really gave it to millennials and like rolled their eyes at how well-parented they were or how blah, blah, we just like thought that they were. And I think they're going to really show us they're going to save things. So chop chop. Okay. All right. I'll try. That is funny when you see like what gentle parenting is going to do. Yeah. Yeah. But okay, speaking of gentle parenting, this is a good segue. I want to get to you go from I'm blown away by the story and I'm sure you've told it before, but I just need to know the details, which is Louisville. You're on a trip to New York with your mom. Yeah. And a guy comes up on the street and says, can I take your picture? Can I take your picture? Yeah, tell us the story. Well, he took, okay, I will tell you the story. And I just, I feel like I'm lying. It's an amazing story. Okay, but it's it's it is the truth, but it's just one of those, I'm like a woman. So I feel like I have to like apologize and then I'm like, I was in New York. I'm sorry. First spring break and I was watching street dancing and union square. I've never seen that before. Not a lot of street dancing in Louisville. And a man named Daniel, who was a talent scout, came up to me and my mom. I was like, can I take her picture? I'm like a model scout. And we were just like, cool. Okay, you know, no sense of danger. Yeah. If he had like told us to meet him at a hotel room, we 100% won't have totally. And then you took my picture on the street. Joe Jonas actually wore the picture on his t-shirt at a concert one time. And it was the first time I had seen that picture since it happened. I was like, how did Joe Jonas get it? That's so weird. Weird. I've since seen it. I don't really know what to do with it. I'm not going to like print it out. And so then I went and started being interviewed by like modeling agencies and what was becoming like really apparent was like, if you're a model, you're a model. Like if you're a model, you're traveling, you're not acting. Like there's no commercials. There's no, you know, so somewhere in those interviews, I decided that I would only sign with an agency that would also let me act. Even though it hadn't been like an actual. Did you know any actors growing up? Did you think you would do that as a job? No, never. But then once it kind of like was brought up as a possibility, I mean, I did. I would always watch like Hillary Doth like when I got home from school. And then I would like do Hillary Doth like in the mirror. So it kind of all came together. But it is really random that someone came up and was like, Hey kid, throw this pitch. And you like have the most amazing fastball. You're so good at acting. Oh, thank you. And the fact that someone was like, Hey, do you want to go do this acting thing? I mean, I guess it was through modeling. But like they were like, Hey, you, I mean, it's so wild. It's it's a needle in a haystack kind of. Yeah, I would have pursued it if that didn't happen. I don't think so. I don't think I would have been aware that that was possible. Although like being in the big city, I was like, Oh, I want to live in a little of here. I want to live here. I want to live here. Did you have a vibe? Yeah, like, you know, when you look back at your life sometimes and you see like Christmas cards where people say, you know, hope you make it to New York someday. And you think like, did you ever feel like you had that version of like, I want to get out of Louisville. I want to be go somewhere else. Yeah, I think like when it was happening, I think like, I mean, I really wasn't there for that long. When I think about it like 1314, that's normally like before you even start getting those like, yeah. So once I came back, it was just like an impossible fever. It was just like, I got to get back there. I got to do it. I got to, you know, and I had made money. I used to train horses and I would babysit. So I had like $3,000. So I was like, yeah, you're not here. Let's get out of here. Yeah. You trained horses. Wow. You proved my point that I feel like women and young girls that like horses usually have great hair. Wow. Always, I don't know. I have a bunch of theories. And one of them is that if you like horses and make sure hair grow really thick. Oh my god. Because you know what a friend of mine, every time she's on mushrooms, things that I look like my little pony. You have fantastic. This is for you. Rachel. I know. Because your mind is going to be blown. Yeah. But when I was looking at your life and career, and I was kind of blown away by how much stuff happened so fast and young in the years of like 19 to 22. Yeah. That was a lot. That's why I was emotional over those skinny jeans. They were my 23 year old rag and bones. Yes. And I was a tender time. That was. Because you how old what year were you 20 2000 and 2012? 2012. Because you did Wintersbone in a beautiful movie. Incredible performance when you're 19. Then you do SNL close to that time too. Like the following year maybe? Did I, yeah, 20. Yeah, because it was before Oscars for silver linings. And Wintersbone I remember being too young to drink. But at the Oscars. And what were your memories of doing SNL at that time? Skewed. Skewed. I've read. You weren't on the cast then. No, 2012. I had left in 20. 2008. And then by 2012 I was joining Parks and Rec. Okay. I don't I think I have to go back and do it again because I had walk in ammonia. I was like under a lot of pressure and doing that. And I was shooting one of the Hunger Games movies. I was shooting I think the second one while doing all of this camp and I would like fly go to a party shake hands and then land and you know shoot like bar me. But I was very tired. And so I think I was just I remember I was also at that bad age. I don't know if other people were like this at this age. But we're like, you know when you get you get asked like can you do any impressions or anything? And I was like, no. Yeah. You know, like I don't want to be like, and I can do this and I can do that. I just kind of made everything like everybody else's problem. I was like, I don't know how to do that. I can do that. Totally. I know. And also I mean, it's hard to be young in on that show. It's just hard. But your relationship to comedy, what is it like now? Do you want to make more? Do more direct more? Write more? I would love I wrote a comedy. And I would love to direct that. And I'll start. Oh my god. You should. Thank you. And no hard feelings was great. You were hilarious in it. Thank you. Well, I did not write and direct that one. I guess I could tell people that I did. I always could. They don't pay attention. After I wrote and directed no hard feelings, it really got me thinking. But thank you. I had a lot of fun doing it. And you want to direct as well. Yeah. Yeah. Right on. Yeah. Great. I mean, everybody does. I think that's true. Like I feel sometimes people are not into it. But I feel like, I mean, are you finding that like having worked now and done a lot of stuff now that you're realizing? Like, oh, I want more control in what I what I do and how I like to do. But I also, I had my first movie ever was a female director. And then I actually ended up working with more female directors than male directors. As a teenager, it was like really like not formidable. Formable. Yeah. Formable. Formable. Formable. It was a farming culture for me. That made me realize. I got to get this word. It's formidable. No, it's like formative. Formative. Informative? Well, it's a formative. What I mean is like, formative. Is that what it is formative? Yeah. Here we go. Formative. Something that relates to formation or development is shaping and influencing something else. That is precisely what I mean. Yeah, we did it. Yeah. So it was formative that I realized that that was even like possible from the do it. So I had wanted to do it since I was a teenager. So then when I went into movies and like my 20s and now, yeah, I always tell the director. And then they include me in a lot of them. I've been really nice and like included me in the process and let me see like post and all that stuff. What is it? What's important for you when you work? Like what's the thing you like to do? For example, like do you feel like once I'm on set, I want to escape and just like dive in and I want some other people to handle the stuff to you like to do like the logistics of the work. Yeah, I do like the logistics. You do. Yeah. Like you like a call sheet and you like knowing what's going to happen. I think that's like that's a woman's brain. Yeah. You know, it's just it's really my producing partner and I've been on sets together since we were 21 and we fuck up a call sheet. I mean, we and when I have like a friend that's going to go do something, I'm like semi-archal sheet. I'll get you two days. We just know how to make it make sense. It's divine. Okay. So I like the logistics. I also I need to connect and have friends immediately. Like I got to dive in and find, you know, the camera guys, the like I got to find like who my, you know, people are going to be. That's so interesting. You got to yeah, because you're like we're going to do. Just not a photo shoot. Right. Photo shoot. I don't want you to talk to me. I just want. I just want totally. I just want it to be over as fast as possible. And it's just all of it so embarrassing, you know, like put your hand like this. Or if you're considered a funny person, the worst part is they're like we have a bunch of props. Oh no. You have this in your house clown. She was for you fucking clown. Put on the shoes. You fucking clown. But it's so true. I mean, I've been in many shoes where like a chill goes down to spend they're like just it's always a whisper. There's a bunch of fun props. If you want to play with them in any way, you would have played with them. You would go over and eat all. No, yeah. I'm like, I'm not going to come naturally. Like if you want me to pull on the rubber chicken, I will. But you have to direct me to pull on. I mean, the other thing is like we have a really fun idea. You have all this barbecue sauce on your face. Oh no. It's always like we're going to humiliate you. Yeah. And you're going to just, you're going to smile your way through it. You're such a good time. Right. Oh, okay. But mine aren't that bad. I'm kind of shocked to hear that. I mean, you're well, I'm not shocked. I mean, honestly, we were thinking you wouldn't wear a bra for this. I mean, like I've had two children. And they're like, you know, yeah, you want me to show you something? Come here. I'm going to show you something. All your pictures are you just flashing. Yeah. Yeah. Because of good hang, we're always looking for a good hang. I have questions I want to ask you. I want your opinion about things. Oh, okay. I want your hot takes. Okay. Oh, yeah. No problem. I know you like to give hot takes. Yeah. And I want, and these are important things. Okay. I got to take it easy on the housewives. So I always get, I get like, okay, I'm going to tell you something about I don't know that much. No, no, no, no, it's fine. I mean, that's good. I like below deck. Yeah, I do. First question. If you were on below deck, what would you want your job to be? Which, which is a steal? Cheesy. Oh, no. No, no, I would go into that laundry and I'd fuck that laundry up. I'd put a podcast in. I'd steam. I'd fold. I'd have a system. I'd have a color coded system. I don't want any people. Never want to go down into the laundry and below deck. And it's like, why you don't have to talk to any of the people. You're there by yourself. Yeah. I'm alone. And again, I would put one in your pot. I'd listen to some murder and I just fucking fuck that shit up. It'd be so satisfying. Yeah. And also doing like, doing turn down would be one of the most satisfying thing, getting the lines in the vacuum perfectly. Do you have like, are you a earth sign? What's your, what, what, what, you've got like a, um, I'm a Leo. Oh, so, okay. So you've got, but you have a lot of ground, did you like organizing? You like straight, straight, not organized. Your house neat? Well, it's, I mean, my, if you look at my bedside table and then you look at my husband's bedside table, okay, mine is an explosion. Pills everywhere. I mean, I look like I'm not what is hermality? And my husband's like, just a bottle of water. Yeah. Okay. But you like, but I do, I get, I get satisfied once it's like time to clean up. You like a good, you get, like a good system. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense to me. And then, okay, another question is, do you have a nickname? Fluffin, nitro, boobs, boobs, Lawrence, the full government name. Um, nitro. Yeah. What a nitro come from. My brother is, because I was really hyper and they called me nitro. Um, I love that you, oh, and my friends call me Ken from the Barbie movie, because I'm just Ken. I think it's their way of calling me stupid. It's whenever I have something stupid. They're like, she's just Ken. Um, you're, you have two older brothers. Yeah. And what was it like growing up like with older brothers? What do you feel like there's a thing that happens to, like what's the good part about having two older brothers? Is there one? Um, there, I mean, I mean, they were great. They were really protective, you know, not with themselves. Because they're, they're like, you know, I mean, did it make you like tough? Yeah. I think it made me tough. As the mother of sons, I will say, and you're, you're gonna eventually notice this too, because you had brothers, the way boys and young boys talk to each other won't be a shocking. Like you're, you're gonna, you choose to it. And again, I find myself doing, I do too. And that's kind of a love language. Like, yeah, when I've noticed the way that you interact with people that you work with, it also feels like you turn people into brothers. Like, feels like, I think I do. Josh Hutchison was a brother. It feels like Robert Pattinson feels like a brother like, oh, you're so right. Okay. Um, Doritos, your opinion. Love them. Me too. Cool. I mean, but now I'm like older and I like think about like what in it? I mean, not if I'm like on a plane, if I'm on a plane, and I see him, I'm gonna, I was going to get eight, but yeah, but I do think about it more. Okay. Do you do any impressions? No. Do I? No, I don't think so. I feel like I've seen you do. I feel like I've seen you do. Um, who do I have? Five some impressions, but now I have to text. Do you want to do the game that we do? We do, we do this game in SNL, which is it's like, you like do it or die. And it's basically, you don't have to do it. We can cut it. But it's really fun to play. And you can do it to me too, which you just give someone a name and they have to do it. I have to do an impression in 10 seconds. It doesn't have to be good. Okay. If you don't do it, you'll die. Okay. Okay. You're ready. And Robert J'Nero. We. You did it. You didn't die. We? I would love to see a recut version of him not saying, are you talking to me, but just go and me. I mean, what's the coldest day you've ever had on set and the hottest day I've ever had on set? Coldest was, I mean, I know like the real answer was like, you know, one of the Hunger Games movies where I was like on a frozen lake, but it was actually in Calgary doing die my love because it was August. So it was supposed to be warm. And so there wasn't like, there weren't like warming coats or anything. And I, you know, I'm just in like a t-shirt or whatever. And so that was the coldest. That broke my heart like made me want to cry. This proves my theory that Marty Short, you did cry because you were so cold. Yeah. This proves my theory that I said to Marty Short, like it's never warm in Canada. Never. And it's always fucking freezing and it's freezing in August always. And Canadians pretend like, oh, we had a really nice day. And it's like, you did not have a nice day. And if you were very cold. It's really cold. When you're cold and you cry on set and it's like, why? I cry on set. I cried in my trailer to Justine. She was like, what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just feeling really cold. But I was pregnant. I just remembered. Yeah. Yeah. Of course I cried. I probably cried every day. Yeah. That movie seems like there was a lot of tears. That was fun. It was fun to like play somebody that's like, but you have to do some stuff, man. You have to go for it in some movies and I'm like, this is hard. Screaming all day crying all day. All day. Woo! Hard, but you're so blessed. I'm blessed. Me? A hot... Best. I'm talking about... Me? Best one over here? Hotest day on set. Hotest day on set. How does time you remember working and it was really hot? No, I know what you mean. I answered the first one. I obviously get the con. Put the context together. I thought maybe you were thinking about something more than the run. I think it was the first Hunger Games. The first Hunger Games were shooting in North Carolina. It was humid and we had those jackets on. Oh yeah. And you had to run in the jackets. And running in the jackets. Speaking of running, I feel like my next question, what I love about you is how you don't feel like you're competitive with other actresses and you really wish for other people's success. But in a foot race, who would win between you and Emma Stone? She's got like really tiny bones and I just have very thick bones. So what does that mean for running? That's hard to know because... It just depends on the distance. You might be faster out of the gate. I think if I like got a clock in, I'd knock her out. Like two seconds. A whole hundred percent. No offense. Emma, if you're listening, but there's... You would definitely knock her out. No, I could take her out. I mean, I can take her out. If it was like a fight or a wrestle, she'd done it. Me? But running, I don't know because I don't know if her hollow bones give her an advantage. Yeah. Karaoke, what'd you go to? Any man of mine, Shania Twain. I don't know that one. This is where your Kentucky comes in. Any man of mine. Yeah. Look how cute she is. I still don't know this. Oh, but you like it, right? You do the woo? Yes, of course. This is where I want the loves. Any man of mine better be, for a man, even when a mug lay still better loved me. And I can be late for a date that's fine, but he better be on time. Any man of mine say it's just fine when a lift here's just a little too tight. Anything about it to say better be okay when I'm high to buy her day. And if I change my mind, a million times, I want to hear him say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a thought way. Any man of mine. What the hell? You're good. I know. Really good. Very good. I love karaoke. Yeah, and I'm on key. You want a key? Did you ever sit and did you ever, you're good singer? No. That's not true. I just heard it. I just heard it. I know you said. I know you're right. Okay, anyway, moving on. All right, all right. Have you ever been awarded a middle or high school superlative? Middle school or high school superlative? Most talkative. Most two years in a row. Thirty or I had left. I was a hero. You're going to get out. Talk my way right out of the building. Most talkative. Yeah. Most talkative. And for me, the three that were like cousins were talkative, like class clown and mischievous. Like they all were like together. We didn't have those. We had talkative best smile. Because I remember not getting that one. You were going for that one. And like, no, I was going for Miss Camer. Miss what? Miss Camer. Camer's the name of the school. This is like the world, or the merger. Miss Camer. Camer. Camer's school. Was it a K-A-M-M-E-R-E-R. Camer's school. That's where I went to school. Okay. We kind of went over this already. Horses, yes or no? Yes. Okay. Um, do you do that crazy thing where you insist on doing your own stents? No. And have you ever? I feel like, okay, great. Just keep that up. Okay. Best album or song of the year. What are you listening to that you love? Oh, I don't know any current music. I once they got rid of the radio. I really, I didn't know. I mean, how am I supposed to know what's coming out of my phone? But what part of my phone my phone has podcast? I mean, playlists. You don't listen to, do you not? I don't listen to like, you don't listen to live music on your phone. Honestly, I usually learn about new music from Instagram or TikTok that I then go and buy. I have a Lily Allen. I don't know when this podcast is coming out in the future. But the Lily Allen album dropped a couple of weeks ago. And, whoo, wee, wee, wee. Oh, I love it. So good. Yeah. So good. I didn't know I was a pussy ballast. I know. And um, monogamami. Monogamami. So good. So good. Yeah, and tennis. Tennis might be my favorite. She is so, so, so town. I mean, I feel like this, I was just saying to some like, I feel like the pop stars, like they're just, the female pops, like they're just dominating. I know. Every area. I know Charlie XCX. I know. It's so cool. I know. Do you know her? I feel like you guys would hang out. I don't know her. I mean, would she hang out with me? I don't know. I don't know. She would just call her up. I would, well. Okay, so let me talk about your movie, Die My Love, which looks amazing. And you once again, like, you're, if I haven't made it clear, you're so good at acting. Thank you very much. That's really, really nice. And you really are doing the thing you're meant to do. Thank you. And do you feel that? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Do you feel like it was wherever time when you thought there's anything else I would want to do? It just feels like every time I'm on a press store. I feel like, do you want to do it? I'm going to give it. Yes. Yeah. It just doesn't feel, like, how does anybody like that? Yeah. But do you feel like when you get on set, do you feel, or when you're working, when you're really in the work, you feel super relaxed? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's hard and you're tired and, you know, you'd rather be like home. Yeah. But, um, but it's like, yeah, so this process seemed really cool. Like, Lin and you and Robert seem like you guys. Lin Ramsey, the director, seem like you three had some kind of way of working that seemed really creative and cool. Was that true? Yeah. It was cool because Lin and I talked about it for like years before we like really had a script. So I felt like we had had so many conversations like about this person and about her circumstances that by the time we got there, there was just like a lot of freedom. It was like kind of scary, you know, like, like an improv you type of situation when it's just like, go. Yeah. It's kind of like, uh, under what terms? I know. The circumstances, but, um, but it was really, really fulfilling. I was like challenging in a nice way. And you're playing somebody's kind of like descending into madness. Madness. Mm-hmm. And do you, when you're playing something like that, do you track, you know, are you always trying to figure out like where is she at in this scene? Like how far has she gone? Kind of. I thought that I was going to have to do that a little bit more, but it ended up just being like, finding the truth of what she was saying, like in the moment, which I think sometimes it didn't end up being as, um, I don't know, like, crazy, as I thought. But the costumes helped with that, because I think they like move from a different place. And so they, at first, she dresses really differently and sticks out. And then as she stays there, she starts to blend in with the community. And so that was a good way that I could mark kind of like where the head, my head space would be. That's a, that's a very cool idea. Right. That you're realizing I'm wearing this, this pair of pants, which reminds me that I'm in this but I've been here for like eight months. And it's kind of getting back full circle of what we're talking about, but close. Like I do feel like close. Like there are certain outfits, for example, that I wore during COVID that I cannot wear again. Because they just, Oh, because of COVID. Oh, it's like when you wear like work pants, and then they get ruined because they're work pants. Are you get broken up with in a shirt that you can never wear it again? Like close, hold some memory. Yeah. Yeah. But you gotta just get them right out of there. You gotta get them out of there. Yeah. Okay, we've mentioned your producing partner, Justine a few times. We have? You have. You mentioned your twice. Oh my god. Yeah. And she's like your best, like a really long time friend, tell us about her. She's yeah, my best friend. We met right after I did winter's bond. So I was 19. And we fell in love with movies. We like read together. We like discovered Walt Whitman. Hannah. So we like I think are like consciousness, like woke up together. And we were like, and she was always like, she was my like roommate when I started getting really famous. And she was really, I think I credit her a lot, but like why I didn't start kind of getting too big for my bridges or anything, because everything was really real with her. Yeah. And she's just, I'm really lucky to have her. I feel really, I love her a lot. I feel loved by her. I trust her completely. I trust her taste. She's also a really hard worker. She likes hard work. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I'm really lucky. I wouldn't normally recommend working with friends, but in our case, work down next. You guys started a production company, Excellent Kedavar. Yeah. You produced about six or seven years ago. A bunch, you've been working together for a long time, and your company's produced a bunch of amazing films, including Causeway, which I think was one of my most favorite things I've ever seen you do. I love that. Thank you. So good. Thanks. For people who haven't seen it, check it out. It's you and Brian Tyree Henry. Brian Tyree Henry, incredible from Atlanta. Many other things, incredible actor. And you two play vets who are kind of physically and spiritually struggling and back home. And it's such a good and Lila is an amazing director. Lila knew about it. It was her first film, but she's big theater director, and she's great. So I didn't decide my ear was itching. She's the scrolls. No, but you know, itchy ears are a sign of Perry Manipaz. So congrats. Congrats, babe. We'll cut that. Oh, no, we'll double that. We're going to make it really loud. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to underline it with me. We're here with Perry Manipaz. Suffer a Jennifer. All right. I always thought there'd be a good drag name, by the way, is Perry Manipaz. Oh, it is. That really is. But anyway, we talked to Justine. You did? Yes. Oh, because we do this thing where we have people talk about our guests and like talk well behind their back and give me a question to ask them. And I talked to Justine today. I should have known. I listened to this podcast. I don't know why I'm so excited. Besides, I'm surprised. What did she say? She had a really good question. I thought, which was basically like, what do you want to talk about? She was like, ask Jen what she wants to talk about and what she's sick of talking about. Oh, that's nice. I know. I thought that was a good friend question. I'm sick of talking about the movie. Yeah, great. We won't. We're going to cut it out. And I want to talk about. What are we not talked about that you want to talk about? Oh, I think we've covered it. We've talked about things that I would have never known that I wanted to talk about that I wanted to talk about. Yeah. So I don't, I can't answer it. Okay. Okay. What do you listen to? Watch. What do you, what makes you laugh? How do you get yourself up up the elevator? Well, you make me laugh. Thank you. You're on my algorithm a lot in the Uintina. And you guys hosted a golden gloves that I was at and you were the funniest people I've ever seen in my life. You made me proud to be a woman. Was that when we said that American hustle was the title of the original title was explosion at the wig factory? Yeah. But what, okay, but what do you listen to read, watch, who makes you laugh? I watch Veepe. So we interviewed Julia recently. You did? I called her the LeBron James of comedy. She has won so many championships with different teams and she rejected that. She wouldn't accept that title. That's so her. I mean, what if she was like, thank you. I know. Yeah, she's a hero of mine. I love modern family. Are you like a true millennial and you watch things that you've watched before just like go to sleep? Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm Gen Z and I don't know what they do. I just love your blood. I love your blood. I'm so online. You kiss me. I love your clothes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I feel like we covered so much good stuff. I feel great about this interview. I do too. I can't wait for it to come out. I'm going to be the first to watch it. Last question is, I know you do like a lot of reality TV. What show would you want to be on of all of them? Well, I mean, want to be on them. I guess the Kardashians. Because then I'd be like on a private plane going to like Fiji. Like that's true for a close. Because the other ones like they're not, they're not like having a good time. Yeah, like just no comfort. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Maybe, maybe, yeah, because you just mentioned amazing race. And I feel like sometimes there's like a little part of me that things I would do. Of course, I tried to go on Bear Girls. You did? And they would like you? No, I what happened was I was like, I was determined to do it. I ended up getting pregnant. And I, but I was still going to do it. And then I texted my OBGYN. I was like, hey, so I'm going to be doing Bear Girls on like the 17th. Is there anything I should like tell them? And he was like, you're not doing that. But I was like, I don't know. And then I just after do you know the show alone? Have you? Are you? I love alone. Oh my God, building the fortresses, building the cabins. Oh, isn't building the houses? Isn't that the part that you want to do the most? And if I may, the amount of energy that people build on their houses is fascinating. Because some people you're like, you're going to get way too tired. This house is too nice. Yeah, they're burning a lot of calories. A lot of calories. Yeah. Other people, it's like, you're sleeping under a tarp for six weeks. Like you're going to get your house together. What's wrong with you? I know. The in-between of that is fascinating to me. Yeah, the bugs. It was really satisfying when you're a guy, white man, didn't bring a fire starter because he was just like, I can do it. I saw that one. That was really satisfying. That changed it. And that's a shawnton-froid, if you will. I also love the men that come on really strong and immediately like twist and ankle. Yeah. I do like that. Or the other thing that takes them down, they're stomachs. I'm surprised that they don't have them just go with sipper- Oh, like sipper-o isn't just like in there. Maybe they do. Maybe they do. But I mean they- But I mean they- They do? The di- Diarrhea tastes like- They get diarrhea down. Immediately. Immediately. I mean, diarrhea immediately. But they- And men are just, they cannot handle. They don't feel good, they just everything falls apart. So they're just like, I don't feel good. And you're like, see a little dude in the way of energised weaving baskets saying they're for 100 days. Yeah. Anyway, Jennifer Lawrence, thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Thank you for spending time here today. I think I have overstayed my welcome. If you want any food from the bath board. What if I just grabbed your favourite, they just grabbed the soup template, it was like, thank you, boys! It's something. Thank you so much, Jennifer. Jennifer Lawrence that was so fun and and thanks for being here and you know for this polar plunge I always like to dig a little deeper on something that we spoke of in the podcast and I would just highly recommend that you watch Causeway it's such a great film. Jennifer's so good in it. Brian Tyree Henry is so good in it an incredible actor directed by Lila Neugabar and it's just really really good um it's just uh I don't know I just loved it I think you will too check it out thank you for listening please come back soon bye you've been listening to Good Hang the executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons Jenna Weissberman and me Amy Poler the show is produced by the ringer and paperkite for the ringer production by Jack Wilson Katz Belaine, Kaya McMollan and Alayezaneras for paperkite production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weissberman original music by Amy Miles