Summary
Pat and Woolly discuss industry chaos including Nvidia's controversial DLSS 5 AI upscaling tech that applies beauty filters to game characters, Digital Foundry's technical focus overshadowing artistic concerns, and Street Fighter 6's Alex character reveal that sparked backlash over incestuous relationship implications with Patricia. The episode covers fighting game balance changes, game industry financial pressures, and broader concerns about AI-driven homogenization in gaming.
Insights
- Technical innovation in gaming is increasingly divorced from artistic vision and consumer preferences, with industry leaders dismissing legitimate criticism as ignorance
- Financial pressure from shareholders forces executives to make decisions that contradict game design principles and employee welfare, creating unsustainable development cycles
- AI-generated content is being rebranded with technical terminology to obscure its function as a filter that overwrites developer intent and art direction
- Fighting game communities demonstrate how responsive developers (Arc System Works) can be to feedback when they have experience and creative autonomy, contrasting with corporate-driven projects
- The gaming industry's cost structure is fundamentally broken—expensive hardware, expensive games, and expensive development—making it vulnerable to cost-cutting measures that degrade quality
Trends
AI upscaling and 'neural rendering' being positioned as mandatory features despite universal player backlash and technical concernsShift from exclusive content to technical features (AI co-pilots, upscaling) as console differentiation strategy when gameplay exclusives are unavailableFighting game balance patches becoming more responsive and community-driven, with developers actively reversing unpopular systems within weeksStreaming and cloud gaming infrastructure being positioned as solution to hardware cost barriers, enabling AI processing server-sideCorporate leadership increasingly disconnected from product quality, making decisions based on spreadsheets and competitor imitation rather than design principlesAnime adaptations of games becoming viable when source material has strong visual identity and creator involvement (One Piece, Sekiro) but risky without itLegal precedent establishing AI-generated content cannot be copyrighted, creating uncertainty for companies investing in generative AI workflowsRemasters and re-releases becoming primary vehicle for deploying AI upscaling technology across back catalogsWorkplace culture at major studios deteriorating due to financial pressure, with court-ordered rehiring of fired executives creating hostile work environmentsPlayer communities increasingly sophisticated at identifying and articulating design problems, forcing developers to respond or face reputation damage
Topics
DLSS 5 AI upscaling technology and neural renderingAI-generated character faces and beauty filter homogenizationDigital Foundry's technical analysis versus artistic criticismStreet Fighter 6 character design and narrative problemsTekken 8 balance changes and community feedback responseArc System Works fighting game design philosophyGuilty Gear and Blazblue combat system designGame industry financial pressure and shareholder demandsOverwatch development and monetization strategySubnautica 2 legal dispute and CEO reinstatementOne Piece live-action adaptation and creator involvementSekiro anime adaptation and visual style translationAI copyright precedent and generative content ownershipConsole hardware cost and accessibility barriersGame development crunch culture and employee welfare
Companies
Nvidia
Announced DLSS 5 AI upscaling technology that applies generative AI filters to game visuals, sparking industry backla...
Capcom
Street Fighter 6 developer facing community backlash over Alex character's incestuous relationship reveal; also recei...
Arc System Works
Guilty Gear and Tekken developer praised for responsive balance changes and community feedback integration, demonstra...
Bandai Namco
Tekken 8 developer implementing major system overhauls based on player feedback, including assist mechanics and wall ...
Blizzard Entertainment
Jeff Kaplan revealed CFO threatened layoffs tied to Overwatch revenue targets, exemplifying shareholder-driven decisi...
Bethesda
Todd Howard announced commitment to using DLSS 5 for Starfield and Elder Scrolls, planning to apply AI upscaling filt...
Netflix
Producing One Piece live-action adaptation with strong casting and creator involvement; planning Samurai Champloo ada...
Krafton
Subnautica 2 publisher in legal dispute with Unknown Worlds over $250M bonus, court ordered reinstatement of fired CE...
Unknown Worlds Entertainment
Subnautica 2 developer in legal battle with publisher Krafton over bonus payments and creative control of the game
Microsoft
Announced Xbox Co-Pilot AI feature coming to all Xbox games, positioning AI assistance as console differentiator
Atlus
Praised for raising employee salaries and reducing mandatory overtime, demonstrating alternative approach to game ind...
Tomorrow Studios
One Piece live-action producer learning from Cowboy Bebop failure, now involving original creator Eiichiro Oda in pro...
People
Jeff Kaplan
Revealed CFO threatened layoffs tied to Overwatch revenue targets; announced new game Legend of California and critic...
Jensen Huang
Defended DLSS 5 as 'neural rendering' not a filter, claiming developers have full control despite evidence showing it...
Todd Howard
Announced Bethesda's commitment to using DLSS 5 for Starfield and Elder Scrolls games, planning AI upscaling deployme...
Eiichiro Oda
Original manga creator involved in One Piece live-action adaptation and reportedly consulting on Samurai Champloo ani...
Shinichi Watanabe
Original Samurai Champloo director being brought in to consult on new anime adaptation, ensuring creator involvement ...
D Slugs
Fighting game artist whose Alien vs Predator beat-em-up game pitch was rejected despite exceptional art direction and...
Chris Wolhardt
Posted comparison of Digital Foundry's path tracing coverage to serial killer fixation on methodology, critiquing obs...
John Linneman
Anti-AI advocate at Digital Foundry who expressed concern about DLSS 5 artistic implications, creating workplace tens...
Quotes
"The biggest fuck you moment of my career was when I got called into the CFO's office and he says, if we don't do this amount, we're going to lay off a thousand people and that's going to be on you."
Jeff Kaplan•Mid-episode
"Gamers are completely wrong. It's not post processing, it's generative control at the geometry level. It's neural rendering."
Jensen Huang•Late episode
"I don't believe for a second that the DLSS 5 announcement video is for anyone that's ever going to buy a video card or play a video game. This screams shareholder slop."
Woolly•Mid-episode
"The reason I'm having a better time in player matches is because I'm winning more. There are a lot of great ways to enjoy this dish and a good place should offer many."
Pat•Mid-episode
"Every time you get someone like this who's in a position that can come and describe it behind the scenes, you're only going to find out 10 years later about these insane decisions, but they're as bad, if not worse than you imagine them to be."
Pat•Late episode
Full Transcript
! I'm starting to believe in hello hello hey man what's up hi those are the eyes of a good night you know last week when I at the very end of the podcast I was like okay I got to go real fast me and Pedro streaming the end of shadow of the colossus because I think we're getting sick yes hey guess what yeah okay all right got sick as fuck yeah literally the following night so by the math on that you should be either in the thick of it or a crest I'm on my way out but okay but I had a fun little experience and I'll give you a preview of this experience Willie okay so you put started to get really grumpy like super grumpy like unreasonable outside their personality grumpy news 30 yeah right oh I know what that is they're sleepy mm-hmm all right buddy I can see your eyes rolling back in your head come on it's nap time so you you put them down it's 615 630 right and you're like as you're doing it you're thinking this is pretty late this might not be but he's falling asleep what are you gonna do so you go to wake him up at 8 o'clock because he's got to go to bed around 10 right so he can't sleep to you hey buddy wake up and you like you're shaking them and they're like they're cooked fucking mega dreamland stage four rem not they're not gonna come out of it and if you pull them out of it they're gonna freak out mm-hmm all right it's probably one of those nights where they just go from like 5 p.m. to the next day what are you gonna do go about your night all right everyone's in bed everyone's going to sleep everyone's asleep he just crushed it 1245 a.m. what does bagel mean what is it what a bagel what is a bagel middle of the dark these are the midnight questions yeah what I want to see it okay I want to go downstairs and tell but bagel mean okay down we go bud yeah we go I just every one of these where I'm like oh man I wish you could communicate and like you're basically I'm like what you're describing is worse communication means nothing you get no understanding you get minus understanding because because I go downstairs we go downstairs and you're like hey man here's some milk do you want something to eat you want to eat you want to eat you want to eat you want to here you go and then I show him the bagel and I go this is a bagel it's like a circular piece of bread I eat them in the morning and he goes what's that and he points at the bagel I'm showing me and I go it's a bagel and he goes no and then runs in the living room and one in the morning and I'm like oh yeah this is sick yeah so I'm on I'm on those midnight to to 4 a.m. feeds um and when like there's times where she's waking up go and just like there's there's waking up hungry and then there's waking up like like famished you know and you can hear when the cries are like yo hurry up and when they turn into I'm a kill everybody right now so I've uh I've fully transitioned because like when when you have the the 2 a.m. feed because I basically did that yeah I was up for two ish hours and you have the 2 a.m. feed and you have the potato and you feed the potato and the potato you got to rock the potato back to sleep right but it takes maybe a bit and the whole time you're like don't fall asleep don't don't fall asleep don't fall asleep don't fall asleep don't fall asleep right but now I'm sick right and so I'm watching the boy while Paige is running in Aaron and I'm lying down on the couch and my head's on the pillow and he's playing with his toys and I'm like okay I can just rest and he walks up to me and slaps my stomach and goes I don't like it when you lie down dead death and I'm like what oh you can't and I'm like no I'm just tired he's like I don't like that I'm so so something in terms of just getting across the the concept of like hey I get what you I understand your needs but also like life and time and there are concepts that are happening around us like like the concept of milk needing to be heated a little bit before you drink it for example is one that is that the entirety of everything to do with uh like how the universe requires heat to be transferred into this bottle is the bane of her existence right and you hear so when I'm hearing like shrieking I'm hearing cries that are hitting new pitches of like yeah right so I've tried I tried a couple different things and like the usual things and the shh and the rubbing the stomach etc that when that stops working right and something that actually is like throwing a wrench in is okay like the bottle's in the bottle warmer and like I pick her up and I point at it and it's you know what a bottle is now right so I pick her up and she's like uh and she's like looking at me like what are you doing and I'm like look at it right there it's heating up and she looks and she's looking at my hand and following towards it and she kind of is like paused and there's a little bit of a like so I should stop crying for a moment yeah and I'm like you you see you see right and she's like okay I'm like right and he's just like no I don't trust it man so the finale of that scenario was I sat up and I went come on man yeah and yeah and he looks at me and goes don't say that to me don't say come on man it's not polite and I'm like it's not polite you're right I'm sorry oh god yeah I so I'm sure you've gotten the version of this where um with the whole like okay I'm when I'm if I'm trying to soothe or put her to sleep or something so doing anything and she's like in full on not fuck you dad mode right yeah like um and mom's indisposed and is unable to come at the moment so then the escalation is going up and you're like and there's a number two is here exactly right and there's a level of like like hitting the new again hitting the peaks and eventually there's a like okay I'm just putting you down right now and like we're gonna see if you're gonna be more upset by the put down or by the pulled that's of human being too because you just two situations happening that you have to pick one do you want like to be held more than you hate me right yes exactly exactly right and so there's a point where and it's like the answer is both I actually hate both of these things and I don't I don't so there's a little bit of like what if I have put you down and uh uh uh right and um at one point at the point when mom comes over and it's like okay well here you go right and she's like she settles in and I'm kind of just staring and I'm just like blank face just going like and she and she actually has a look of like yeah what do you want from me man like it's an expression of just kind of like yeah I don't know okay but it's better now yeah and then then I'm turning this way and I'm like I'm looking at her and she's like I don't want to look at you right now you know and I'm like no no I'm over here and she's like no uh I'm not looking I'm not I'm not no eye contact and I'm like okay because you know you know how you feel right now I've um oh man there's a new word in my house and the new word is do da do da do da okay and I was like struggling to understand what do da was because it would it sometimes be the answer to like I would ask him something and he go no dad dad it's do da and I'm like what the fuck does that mean because he's using it like it means something not like it's nonsense right so he's invented a word and I'm trying to piece together the the the language like a fucking scientist and I figured it out and now the word drives me the drives me fucking crazy okay do da origin yeah etymology do da's origin is dad I want some milk how do you ask for milk smirk do da no say please no oh do da and I'm like do da means fuck you do da means rebellion I don't want to do it and I think it's funny that I'm answering you what like in this passive aggressive way do do da means resist do da is rise up against authority and it's so and challenge challenge god anytime he like does something and you're like say sorry buddy he goes no do da and I have oh my god oh man wow the placeholders for fuck you already in place right um okay well that emotion predates any language for oh like super early oh funny oh yeah absolutely I mean yeah uh this is the best shit ever getting roasted by a small person who has no power but has all the power is of really fun experience um so what I was gonna say before is that I feel like it doesn't happen often but every once in a while there are weeks where you know we're like oh it's a doozy we got a whole bunch to cover right um but not all all doozy weeks are built the same sometimes the doozy week's a do da sometimes it sometimes the doozy week is a do da sometimes the news happens evenly distributed sometimes it happens immediately after we turn the lights off sometimes it happens literally all within 24 hours of the beginning of the podcast and sometimes it happens exactly sometimes we enter into the poochy maiden heaven escalation of events where where the week is like yeah it's pretty slow you know and there's like oh a couple things are going on and then the 48 hours coming up to going live are just bang bang bang up to the second up to the very moment of starting where it's just like oh my god like eight things just happened in the last 10 minutes yeah it really like eventually when we I don't remember why we moved the podcast to Tuesdays I think it was for D&D but like that's paid out because Monday Monday announcements Monday news yeah I mean sometimes it's Tuesdays too it's also just you know you never you never know them was this morning certainly many of them were this morning you know um so no let's let's let's get to it but uh I mean look there was there was a week uh to cover a bit before I played Slay the Spire 2 I did a stream it's good it is good played some more and eventually unlocked the the necrobinder as you know you were mentioning and try to run with that fucking rules man super interesting very tricky though I got a bad initial like a set of cards to play with and died real early into the run because I just didn't get anything to make her survivability go up the whole thing with like yeah having her um ostie be the your defense and your offense and everything you have to get a good amount of summon cards to keep him alive and you know keep him doing good damage and um yeah like just the first the initial run I did I was like oh no no good hands right now this is just not gonna work you know um but what I didn't know was that the next character to unlock after that was my boy um right I was waiting the whole time and the redact is here and I'm like oh I forgot that once I got the redact in the first game I just ran that like all the time I love the robusted robot with all this bullshit nonsense all over it go so good so uh excuse me the defect excuse me and um basically uh uh uh the the run immediately just gets more manageable where you're like okay we're doing orbs right and we're and like the the different colored orbs are procking each turn and you're kind of like going this is this character I actually I'm remembering I had more fun with this character than the rest of the game I like I like the version of the game that comes from the the the orbs being a part of it so that was a whole lot of fun um and yeah made made and and I'll also say too that um doing that run and getting a bit further in I was able to see some more of the I guess there's a couple more things that are that are distinct and different from the original but they're definitely not as immediately obvious as we were discussing before but I had a really fun build with just slamming everything with the um I forgot the name of the first character but the the default ironclad ironclad yeah yeah so I had a good run with that giving it giving it more tries I'm I'm warming up to it and especially now that I've got the you know the the defect back like very excited for that um austy build I guess we'll just have to you know try a few more and see but uh I get it in concept from my experience I played a little bit more and it's like the the regent and the necro binder are really cool uh all builds are not created equal like very early access like there are there are some ones that are just like to the fucking moon with this and then there's like multiple others that I'm like I can't make this shit fucking work at all like they just don't have the the synergizing that that I feel like it needs I mean I that that initial slam deck that I was talking about was basically just like throw away all your strikes um I got a slam card upgrade it duplicate it and just hit huge damage for free as often as possible um yeah it was great it was a build up defense and then um your defense is now also how much damage you're gonna do by slamming you know um good stuff there um get working through uh versus drafts um yeah fun fun new concepts some goofy fucking shit in there but um bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop 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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is definitely the joke. Having the piss. Mm hmm. The final boss there is very, very for real, even as somebody who beat up Simon. And and then the freaks over at the tower. Those freaks over the tower are built to deal with whatever you used to take out Simon. Yeah. And then you go into the drafts and go, OK, you need to use the the the busted busted fucking shit in here. But go back out to deal with the freaks. And it's interesting because like it's like, OK, have you built out a bill? Are you a freak that is one and done? Right. Do you have no stamina? Can you can you only get it out once and then you're out for the night? Or can you keep it up? Right. And if so, can you survive at least one volley of bullshit? You know, because that's the thing is like, OK, deplete a life bar. Now, let's see you do it again. And you're like, I can't. I used all my Stendhal energy and all of my pepictos and Luminas were for that first hit to be really good. And it's like, well, then you fucking die, you know. But the freaks at the tower. Yeah, I was really cool to see some of the changes. Some, you know, some of them like, you know, Clea, it's just like, OK, be perfect, right? That's it. Be perfect. All we ask of you is perfection. And then in some other cases, you're like, let's take the most disappointing part of this game, which was how much of a job or the dualist turned out to be and fucking fix it. And just go nuts. Just go completely crazy. Way to fix the dualist. What a cool way to redeem that, you know? Because the energy and design of that and the build up of the of the event are so much higher than the actual fight and its challenge. So have you gotten a bunch of those new pictos that have bizarre alternating effect timing is what matters every fifth hit, six hundred damage. So the game, the base game pushed really hard towards it. You're going to want to build up into like one hit and it's going to go go to space. And now it's like, well, what about every time you get a crit, it'll double the damage of the next non-crit. So you actually want 50 percent crit. What if do some math? What if the first four attacks don't hit at all? Yeah. But the fifth one is really big. And so it's like it completely inverts it back to multi attack. And then you're going and you're looking at that move list going, how many attacks here are hitting five times? How many attacks are doing the fifth hit being the most devastating? Oh, look, burning canvas. OK, perfect. But oh, burning canvas costs five. And I can only go up to four Lumina points, AP points. Let's get a reducer going. And now, you know, and so it's this whole little system that's like, yeah, they want you to sit down and like do the math on it. So clever stuff going on there. And also it's fun to see the at least lore wise, the whole like, it's a kid's playground idea, you know? Like very much so. It's cool to see like, yeah, OK, even in this like even in this greater playground, you have a just this fun stuff of like, what would a kid's doodles of like family and everything? And, you know, those those memories be like so very, very cool stuff there. Checked out. There is there is the the implication that one of the characters played Xeno blade and Persona five is there. Yeah. So the the the the shithead, the the shithead who has the the the the fucking gastrol that does all sorts of fucking jukes on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, like his. His fucking quotes are I'm really feeling it, which is yes. OK. What? Shulk yells out and you'll never see it coming. You're right. Right. And they the other one is a test of your reflexes, which is from FF 14. So that's in in in my mind that does a lot. But like, oh, there's a character here that fucking loves RPGs. OK, absolutely. Japanese RPGs. I mean, yeah, that character is Guillaume. You know, like, I love it when you play a game and the creator like like Kojima or Tartino or Guillaume goes. I really like this band. I really like this other game. I also lost my shit promptly when it's like, you know, the the origins of all evil, Osceo. Hey, it's him. Cuckoo. And then, you know, and then, of course, there was the rematch, right? Boy, yeah. Boy, did they just go, all right, nerds, show me what you've got. Um, I like we went in and took a look and like it was like, all right. What is the actual deal with Cimo at this point? Right. And it's like, let's if you think because the the the the truth behind all difficulty in all video games is memorization beats everything. You can never ever lose if you just lab it enough and internalize it. No, we're going to make a we're going to make a character in this game that has guaranteed inconsistent timings on literally every single attack every single time you're going to have to just fucking wing it every time. The Divergent Star requires your attention on every single swing. Break the rules of your combat system at the dead last second. Oh my God. You know, you've been coasting on memory so far. And even if you're at the top of your fucking game, crushing this with billions or whatever the case is, your defense is all based on. I've seen it before. I know the timing. Well, fuck you. Improvise your only jazz will win this battle. Holy shit, man. And the moment you fuck up once, like, like that was what it was. It was like learning that was the rule. You're getting agent that he activates is like on and off at different whims with each combo. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Like you're just like, what the fuck? You have a second to react to the flash. And then you drop the ball once. Get the fuck out of my canvas. Bitch. Like. Oh. I. That was a proper. But. Those four bosses for when I go back and replay the game. Because. I I loaded into the DLC from six months later, right? Like eight months later. And I struggled pretty good. And I didn't have the build ideas that I had that I even made. So I was like, fuck it, just more damage, more damage. And I brute forced it. And then I went over to those guys and I'm like, this fucking nearly year long fucking break since I was in here. I I this you you guys get to be the top of the mountain for when I replay the game in the future. Yeah, like just you have broken the game. Congratulations. That's your entry ticket. You know, you are you are barely you are barely able to enter. Show us what you got. So that was very cool. Yeah, I should be wrapping that up a little bit later. Oh, yeah, you're you're there if you're talking about this. Indeed. I. I'm some people were wondering like, oh, should you do the DLC after you beat it or whatever? I was like, no, no, no, I like. It's pretty clearly. Yes. Yes. Right. The only thing you would want to do for Reggie is mentally checklist. How high you should juice the final boss. Yeah, exactly. That's which is something I've been thinking about already, just to make it sure that you can see how cool it is. You said a lot after doing that shit. For sure. And, you know, some people were like, oh, why would you do it this way? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because narratively, the coolest things are bookending this whole journey. Right. And it's flaccid. I hate when you have a moment in games where you walk back out after credits, go somewhere, do an interesting thing and then go, all right, well, I'm sitting here on the overworld and I guess that's done now. And it's like, that's so weird and unsatisfying in the game to be rolling credits. And the real DLC, the real thing that you do post game is the fucking five. Well, no, I was going to say is the is the conversation. So that is what you spend your time on. I remember seeing an interview with Guillaume where they were asking him about how so many people got to the end of the game and like massively like fucked up act three, like just took three apart. And he's like, yeah, no, that was on purpose. We wanted we wanted you to be able to go and do anything and just go nuts and go crazy if you wanted. And maybe we let them go a little too far. But like that was definitely intentional. And then they they somewhat rectified that by allowing you to be like have your friend tell you, no, juice the bosses, find juice, the finest, the final bosses, HP by. By a million. So you like a million. No, I mean, by like one million. Give the boss one million times more HP. So I'm so serious knowing where to go was was a challenge on that because we put times ten on Simon and on Cimo and it was too much. And then it was like, should we go for times five? Oh, fuck with Simon. Well, no, we needed to because the one shot initial base, Simon was not enough. Right. And that's tough. And I and I and I and in my my I calculated wrong. I thought that his that stand out against Cimo would result in almost dead, but not quite dead. And then you get to fight a little bit to the end and it wiped him, right? Because roulette roulette can do it. So all this I don't understand math. So roulette's really good, I guess. So in the end, you know, I get that that's the thought. But I'm I'm always in preference of a, you know, like I said, the cool book ending with the exception of something like Citadel, where it's like this is actually perfectly designed for post, right? Where you have like your your. Anyway, if the story is meant to be like an epilogue of sorts, right? That then that works out anyway. So that'll be going on this week. All right. Also checked out a couple of them fighting games. So one you played fighting game. There's one that I've been keeping an eye out on. And I wanted to wait for a little bit more, but I've decided to just pull it now, pull the plug now. Hal versus is the Hal taker fan made fighting game that looked really cool. And I was like, oh, this looks like some fun shit to check out in a minute. Only two characters so far. So just a little demo and versus. Pardon Hal and versus. Unfortunately, not hell and not versus. But for Hal taker, I mean, they they they got they got Zdara in there. So like they know right off the bat who people want. And you know, Hal taker, right? Yeah. Yeah. So so they there. This is a game that for the one hour that the game actually lasts, the effect it's had on just fandom and the impact of its character designs and then overall general attitude are like the perfect just the amount that the effect is so disproportionate for how long the source material is. Yeah, but it made people's dicks hard. It sure did. And like I said, we bring back the kickboosting. All right. Fuck a kick shame. We kick boost. So this game is like, pick what do you what do you what kind of harem are you looking for? And I mean, if you're whole, if you're your baseline is everyone's wearing a suit, then like got my fucking attention. So anyway, the fighting game looks pretty sick. We tried out to we tried out the little demo played that for a bit. So far so good. You know, fun stuff, cooking. It's also funny because it's Hal taker related. It's a two character demo and it has like one stage. The assets are like at the early or they're super early in the in the cycle, but they already have voice acting. They already have that stage with like little cameo, you know, how take her in the background doing stuff. I'm building a game. The new show because I think the game is all about the fan art and the characters and the lore and the love into like the girls and the harem. So you're kind of like, yeah, it's important to put all that right away. You know, you can't build a sub like a normal game. You have to put all the shit that fans are going to freak out and love immediately in your two character demo and work like vertical slice down almost built from the goon up. That is that is that is exactly how it should be put. So, yeah, that was, you know, that's coming along. Keep an eye out on that. And it's a I think it's it seems like it's one of those like one person projects. Um, I also took the opportunity to not only play it, but men came over one day and just decided and just handed me a box and said, here you go, check this out. And I was like, what, what is this? And he hands me this threatening. Oh, the R. Cod. It's called fuck that, dude. Why? It is a controller, PlayStation style on one side and a button like arcade stick set up on the opposite side. Why would you do it? Because some games actually like some are some games are better on arcade stick. Some games are better on pad and sometimes the hybrid is actually ideal. So Tekken fingers, I talk about a lot of the time are when you're playing on a normal PlayStation controller and then you put your hand up, wrist up and then you tap, right? A lot of players play Tekken that way. Because of the way you hit strings and stuff, it actually just, it flows better. It feels better. You feel more accurate for how you got to time things. And, um, for me, I've like Third Strike is a good example of a game where I'm like, I've got more pad experience on Third Strike than stick experience. So I'm way more accurate and I with, I'm and I drop things a lot less on on pad. So let me try this out. Min just brought my body and just said, here you go, give it a shot. And you know what? For the weirdness of what you're looking at, it ain't bad. Um, for starters, you customize the D pad so that it can be PlayStation style, if you'd like, or Xbox style, if you'd like. So there's a couple of different options if you want this full circle or whatever. And then these buttons, I don't think you can replace with Sanwa, but I seem, it seems like there's another model that you potentially can. So if you have a good feeling D pad on one side and good arcade stick buttons on the other side, that's solid, man. That ain't bad. Um, I was like fully going, oh my God, is this, are we going? Are we doing like abomination reviews? And I was surprisingly pleased with this being quite a decent way to go. You know, so if you're somebody out there who's like, you like the feeling of touching the buttons, but the stick accuracy has been an issue or so, or you just prefer your thumb and have gotten used to playing on pads more. Maybe give it a shot. You know, Willie, I would love to sit here and discuss your crimes against God further. But I am required at the home. I will have to be right back. The R.B. Alrighty. Um, that controller looks fucking terrible. I just want to, I just want to finish with that thought. I walked over to help Page with the baby and like, you see this fucking shit on the screen and she's like, I know it looks awful. Look, some people are, if you've gotten experience with a pad and then you're, if you got experience with a stick and you have that moment where you're like, fuck me, I dropped to this one important moment and that feels bad. Sometimes, many times the answer is just like, yeah, if you practice more with any peripheral, you'll get the hang of it. And that's true. But as someone with experience in both with preferences all over the place in that sometimes I'm like, actually in this game, I kind of want this, you know, and someone thought the same thing and they did it. I guarantee you, I know my opponent to retch on the floor when they see me playing the game and this will give me an advantage. Bitch, people are pulling up to tournaments with fucking pianos and DDR pads. Okay. Yeah, but see that's cool and creative. You're just using some pile of shit off a bargain bin. And this is, it's custom built. It's pretty solid. The D pad. You built my fucking asshole. Shit on a button. Okay. All right. Cool. Yep. I'm still a little sick. So you're getting, you're getting good little bit of extra sass today. Good counterpoint. Ultimately, that's the kind of thing where I would look at it and be like, you if what usually happens were to happen, which is it would feel terrible. Right. If you grab this type of peripheral put out by like fucking Liang number one or some shit, you know, performance and then you touch it, you're like, Oh, these are awful buttons. This is an awful pad. They had the idea, but this is terribly executed. That'd be one thing. But the fact that it actually feels solid goes, Oh, well shit. Hey, let me ask you just off the off the top of the dome, the Ouya pad or the original steam controller? I mean, straight dog shit. They're okay bad. Like the steam controller feels bad in a way that it is expensive. It's just not the feeling I want from my at control. Whereas the Ouya pad feels like plastic from Kmart. I think my favorite part about the Ouya pad is that you press like one of the buttons and if you're moving to the side even a little bit, the fucking button goes under the shell and stays there. Yes. Which is what happens with the with the the Toys R Us controllers. Like that's the thing is it fucking crazy. It weighs nothing. It has nothing in there. It's the cheapest plastic possible. Whereas the steam controller was made using real parts that they were bad parts for fucking for gaming. They're just not what I want my controller to feel like, you know? Yeah, I just there's even if you have the mold of a controller, I like and you build it out of the fucking Ouya thing. It's dog shit every time. It's fucking crazy. Anyways, so yeah, no, that's pretty much it. So, you know, this week going to yeah, wrap up on E 33 and Thursday going to be busy. And then Saturday, probably we're going to check out Alex. So come hang out. Should be fun. Um, yeah. Oh, and don't forget that I believe Thursday is a steel ball run day. It is steel ball run day. Going to get that one. Turn. Going to get. Yeah. No, I was just going to say going to get that white man's money on Thursday. Oh, yeah. Don't forget. Do we know how it's going to get released? God, I hope it's a single episode, dude. I'm expecting it to be part one is a drop of multiple. I don't know. We'll find out. What's going on? Me and Paige got sick this week. Most mostly me. Paige seemed to dodge most of it. And so I've I've I canceled my whole week's worth of fucking streams, which is quite rare for me, even when I am sick. Because I'd be like sitting there just leaking and then coughing my shit off. And then like I streamed on Monday, Sunday, briefly. And I was like, I'm coming out of it. I'm coming out of it. And then I start the stream and like literally the first comment I saw was like, whoa, dude, you look like shit. Come like, like, friendly, you know, like, like the kind. And I was like leaking all over myself. And I just ended up doing like a single beat the backlog game, which was Heartworm, which is really cool. It's very classic styled 1998, like fixed camera horror game. Super cool. But then I'm like, oh, I'm still actively dying. And my voice is nasally and my throat hurts. I'm out of here. Yeah. Unfortunately, I like things that you would 100 percent stay home for if you were like punching into an office. You'll just like fight through and click live, go live anyway. Yeah, like I hurt my hand or hurt my foot or whatever. And like whatever, I'm just sitting in a chair. And I'm like, oh, cool. It hurts to talk. Mm. Oh, not a good one. Yeah. And then there's pushing it and then regretting it double hard a few days later when it's like you should have been recovering. You stupid fucking idiot. Recovered. So I didn't I didn't play much. I played a little bit more of my switch than I usually do. I've been playing Xenoblade X, which is. The fakest fake MMO game to ever exist. Like every single thing about Xenoblade Chronicles X. You were mentioning is an MMO, like a classic Japanese style MMO. Other than the fact that it's not an you're not online. It's it's the it's it's more MMO than like some of the fucking dot hack games that were also fake MMOs. Yeah, that's that's what I brought up last time. It's fucking bizarre. It's fucking strange. And I watched the first episode of that. Of that one piece television show. Oh, yeah, season two. The second season came out. I had not followed it super closely in the lead up to the season two. So. They should give whoever is the casting director like an Emmy by default. This this is the best casting for anything I have ever seen in my life. Every single character is like. A nineteen nineties fan casting, not accounting for acting ability. Right. It's like, oh, it's it's them. It's them off the page in the war in real life. And they're doing it and they're all pretty good actor. Like they do they do a good job. Like even more so than the first season because. Season two, the first episode takes place in Loghtown, which is like a very large scale city. And the amount of detail they went into like, hey, people who exist in the one piece universe look like stupid Jagovs, like even pedestrians. All look like stupid cartoon freaks. Everybody in every shot, every extra stupid ass cartoon freak in the background. Absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, I really like that first season. And this is it's it's unfortunate that the whole the whole enjoyment that's coming from the casting being like, holy shit, they nailed it. I don't have any of that. I'm just I'm just judging it on the merits of what it is, you know, for the first time, but enjoyable enough as that. There's also something that this has to be Oda's idea where. So Oda writes like real loose. And like people will pulling out plot hole. Like if you read if you read the manga and you read like every most chapters have like a letter to Oda where he answers like fan questions. And people will point out like massive plot holes that like a year later will become. Oh, actually, this happened because of this. I wasn't a plot hole. I had it in my head the whole time. No, and he actually takes the time to answer that shit. Yeah. Well, no, what he does is like people will like, hey, how come Luffy grew back his teeth after drinking milk? And he'll be like, it's a manga be quiet. But then later. OK, OK. And one of the things that you see even in the first episode is characters from like six hundred chapters later in the manga appearing crazy early, like absolutely insanely early. And you're like, oh, my what? That guy. And the reason is is because upon those characters introduction in the manga, they will flash back to that early chapter and be like, I was there by the way. I was there off screen. I saw that. But also you have to take into consideration, there are not going to be six hundred live action episodes. So the jump to wherever you're talking about is much closer. So if if they wanted to adapt everything they did, I think I saw people say it would take like 14 seasons. Until now. Fuck. Oh, OK. And like you're taking like a butcher's fucking knife to it. Like it's and yeah, they're they're they're like massaging it and like they're cutting this. And what about can you drop like two or three movies to like, you know, fucking Ray's a arc. You know what I mean? Just just just around halfway. Oh, wow. There is a time skip. So you could do six, seven seasons with these guys. And then end it. And then you could then six or seven live action seas. Yeah. Yeah. And then you could be like the one piece live action is returning. And you you recast the whole the whole group and be like, they're older now. You get to where fucking Seinfeld and friends are at and you go, we are now halfway through the story. Well, I remember it was like around like in the thing or whatever it was. Like we're a chapter like twelve hundred. And Oda did an interview. He's like, I think we're starting to see where the where the final arc may start to have or some shit like that. It was very. It was like 15 years and he's like, I'm starting to think about the ending. OK, so divorced from all of that, though, is the reality that. Oh, it's good. It's very fun. But I know I just I don't have faith that like Netflix or any of the shits involved on production at some point won't fuck this up for that many seasons. Like you get a number of competent seasons before someone somewhere fucks it up. You know, season three is confirmed already for sure. For sure. For sure. And season three would be alabasta. And then you could totally like their adventures continue. After the end of the third season. And then if they did the fourth season, it would be the knockup stream and Skypia. And you could totally do their adventures continue after that. It look. It would be nice. It just it would be nice that like a good project could be long running, successful and work and just be untouched by the way everything gets ruined these days. But I'm just how often does that happen? You know, it's so rare, man. And I don't know if you saw, but I mean, I'll pull a docket story out here so that we can relieve the back half of the podcast. Get just let some of the steam out the bus. Let the steam out. But tomorrow, tomorrow studios now with their with their, you know, reinvigorated, you know, egos are like, yo, how about how about that Champloo though? Right. And after the success of One Piece, it's like, yeah, yeah, let's see it. Right. But don't forget, they also did Cowboy Bebop. And so the difference they said in the interview when they're talking about this is we realized that having the creator there in the process was very important. So they reached out to Shinichi Rawa Nabe and he is going to be involved with Sham Samurai Champloo. So that's important. What's important is that the creator has a kill clause in the fucking contract. That's that's why the One Piece live action is good. Yeah, because Oda's walking around with the gun. Like, like getting daily updates. And if he thinks something sucks shit, he's like, yeah, I'll cancel the whole season. I don't even care. So so that's it. Like, OK, can the people that did that they did this and it worked? Can we trust them to go into us? Because you've already botched, you know, this previous franchise from this from the same creator. Welcome to the ouch, motherfucker. Can you fix this? Can you save it? And it's like, yes, by having the creator on board to kick everyone's ass and actually do what he thinks would make make it make sense. You know, you provide the the ability, the production, the talent, etc. And have the person whose vision actually created the fucking thing show up and make the decisions. Maybe you have some. Yeah. I though though sometimes that's not true. Um, you should not have, for example, had Stephen King consult on the shining. Well, made that movie awful. Well, well, thankfully, we have the TV miniseries shining to look at. What an incredible like compare and contrast. No, this is my vision. And it's like, Steve, you're not a good director. You're bad. Like it, there are some things about that miniseries that are interesting, right? There are some twists and and and overall like Stephen King universe pulls that work that are cool, but you have fucking nothing on that movie. Like it's it's just not your baby anymore. It's done. It's cooked. It's over. Anyways, anyways, all that to say that I I yeah, with with the proper guidance, I am looking forward to seeing what they do with Champloo. Yeah, I believe it can be done. And I can't casting is fucking paramount for that, too. You know, so fuck that up. Fuck that up like two seconds. Like Luffy is a very, very specific person. You got a nail and. And Moog and is I'd say as precise, you know, Oda had like super detailed notes and expectations of what the care what these characters would look like in real life if they were real people down to like what countries they would be from in the real world. Yeah, that's that's that's good detail. Maybe if like fucking what would be really sick is if a live action Champloo could even like fix some of the pacing of the original show, which is not perfect. It's fucking cool, but it ain't a perfect show. Towards the end, it does kind of get a bit five more baseball episodes. I mean, just you know what? We've decided to delete the sunflower smelling samurai and we are spending an entire arc on a world series of Japan. You know, baseball. I have a complaint about Samurai Champloo that that I think I've never surfaced to you ever. And this complaint might suck. Like I might be completely wrong. But I actually really strongly disliked the final episode matchups. Like the each character has their final confrontation. No, I don't think that's this is not this is not a wild take. This is not extreme. I most I thought that in the lead up to that episode that the matchups that we got would have actually been switched because instead of fire, fire and ice, ice, I thought it was going to be fire and ice and fire and ice. OK, yeah, I mean, I get it. I get it. Ultimately, I do feel like considering Cowboy Bebop, I do I felt like the first half of Champloo is just way stronger than the second, you know, overall. And and you get a couple of you get your baseball episode in there. You get your beatbox bandits, you know, you get your fucking best of Nujibes tracks dropped in. And like you enjoy a couple of episodes. But a lot of that funds was was like the beginning of the journey. And I yeah, I just remember the the back half of it kind of unfortunately being not as strong and a bit more forgettable in a lot of ways and foos story and arc. And I feel like it's the total opposite of Bebop where all the bottle episodes in the second half of Bebop are like the best parts of the fucking show. Yeah. And so that's the last thing I was going to say is with live action Champloo. Like I wonder what do you do on that music? Because there is now an army of post Nujibes disciples that exist, you know, there are so many people that like have taken up that that style and are killing it. You know, you got your your Marcus D's and you got I mean, Mello is doing that type of shit is crushing it. There's so much like lo-fi sick post Nujibes stuff that is I wonder if you kind of just like get people to come in and kind of homage it. You know, like I'm not sure best still alive. Nujibes is not alive anymore. No, really, I kind of ask that facetiously. No, no, no, it's actually a this is a big deal. This is like he passed away and it was tragic. Oh, well, then, oh, shit. And then I actually have like locked into what you're talking about because it's like, oh, yeah, that is actually. Very difficult and possibly very disrespectful. Yeah. So Fat John was a part of that. You know, there's a couple of people you can put you can 100 percent pull back in. But, you know, I either way, the music choices for this are going to be very, very important because the legacy of how anyone came to know Nujibes was because of I know what they're going to do. Somebody in the chat was right. Shadow Lily's right. They're going to use AI to replicate the feel of the music in honor. Ah, yeah, anyway, I would I would I would like to believe that you can get Shingo to to like choose who he thinks would be the best fucking lineup, you know, to to to handle that. That would be the probably the most appropriate thing, I think. Anyway, anyway, tough. Paul order, tall fucking order. Yeah, rest in peace, Jinsaba. Anyway, so one piece, got to go check that out. It's good. Mm hmm. What else is going on? Character in there that people are mad that they made them look a certain way. And all I could think of is that they're stupid, that they're stupid idiots and didn't read one piece. Uh, anytime, anytime anything has a successful series on Netflix, it's just like you can take bets on how many seasons you're getting. It's two, you're getting two. And then the bet starts at three. Yeah. I mean, OK, so I will say that after I brought up Castlevania, I did see it turns out it's not as much as a Castlevania dropped off consensus as much as it is mixed. And there's a lot of people that were saying, no, no, no, it was actually quite good. You know, so there's debate as to the drop off discussion. I haven't gotten to it, but I can tell you for a fact that the animation is out of fucking control on the the fifth and sixth seasons. OK, OK. I mean, I just I know that it first the first two, like it was universally just like this is fucking fire, you know, and then afterwards there started to be some some noise, but I again, I haven't seen it myself, so I'd have to go find out. Anyway, what else is going on? Watched one piece, did that? Honestly, just been just napping. All right, that's fair. Yeah. Me and me and Paige were nap trading, because someone alive has to to watch the child. I'll tell you what, though. Taking care of a toddler can sometimes be tough, but it's a wonderful experience. But you know what is tough when your kid every now and then goes and is like, they're fine, like they're not in they don't have a fever. They don't. But all the places that you would usually go that have other children are now off limits because you can't have your probably still infectious child cough all over the other children. And then you get to feel, woolly, you get to feel a hatred in your chest. Let's go so deep. Talk about it. Speak on it. Speak on it because what? Because what did you just do? The read what I did was I acted like a response. Oh, oh, and then the kids. Say, I should stay home with the child and just extra hard to entertain them. And it's almost like the fucking sick kids at the daycare that are being brought there by their parents should probably be doing the same thing. Because every time your child gets sick, you usually get to see it happen. You see a child that is obviously ill in the public space, touching things and coughing on people. And you go so good. So like I there is a there is a reality where you're like, OK, is this something where your work or your you have an inability? Oh, yeah. OK, I'll just run down the thing because I see some people already doing it in the thing, which like sometimes people can't do that. No, because my child doesn't go to get this and go to gay care. No, I care. OK. That's for that's for gay baby jail, actually. No, we had a gay baby jail briefly. It was a it was like a big, big playpen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm going to go to daycare because I'm home all the time. There's no reason to put him in daycare, right? They're sending the kids to gay care. What is going on? What I'm talking about is the library. Yeah. Mommy and me style play places that are open for a couple hours a day for the kids to interact with other children and stuff like that. Not child care. Optional child enrichment activities. So when you are at the optional child enrichment activity and a kid comes in and is literally leaking fucking green. And you're like, you don't have to be here. You don't have to be here. There are more for you to be here. There are there are places that are, I mean, depending on where you set up and stuff, I know for we know for a fact that there's places that are free that you take that you can take your kids and such. But no, I would say that if you have serious or emergencies or you have there's lots of situations where you got to be able to like got to go deal with that. Right. Part of being a parent is you don't have the full control. You don't have autonomy over your full schedule anymore because you got to step in for anything going on. And yeah, it feels really, really annoying to know that like for every moment that that same thing that crossed your mind, because we had that as well. Oh, she's a little bit sick. Looks like we're not going to take her anywhere where other kids are going to be. Got to keep her hair until that's over with. Just walk around outside in the open air. And you're just kind of like, like, please also do this other parents so that you don't make it worse. It's just. Yeah, I'm really. I don't think you've you're there. She's not old enough that you've encountered this type of person. But at the same time, you'll be like at this community service and you'll be like looking at the sick child and you'll overhear their mom be like, oh, they couldn't they couldn't have it. I definitely never got them vaccinated. So there's no there's no worry. And then you look back at the child stacking like 400 cars in a circle. Yeah. And you're like, no, ma'am. So that's what I was about to say. I was about to say that like there is like you can you there is a particular situation you can imagine where somebody is like, like, I literally I have to like every single I can't take any time off of work to deal with this. And or if any emergencies happen, I also am shit out of luck. Right. No, that happens. There is that's what I'm saying. Right. There are circumstances you can you can you can envision here where there's like I literally. Yeah, I cannot do anything if my kid gets sick. Right. Your back is against the worker. Be like, I can't believe somebody sent their sick kid to daycare. And then the response is if I don't go to work today, I won't have the food to pay rent and type type shit. So right. What the fuck are they supposed to do? And I don't want to sound like a fucking asshole. Describing that type of scenario here. Right. But then you describe what you just said, which is the like actually. I mean, intentionally neglectful. We are we are we are we are getting our kid to like eat more. Fucking buffs of get we're getting our kids sicker on purpose in the swamps to increase their own natural immunities, you see. And and you'll thank me by getting your kids sick, too. We've sent our child to the bat caves, actually, to just go play in there. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I've been sick. That's that's what's up. Gotcha. And OK. OK. Well, I'm playing a lot of I've been playing. I've played more switch to in handheld mode this week. Yeah. Then I played switch one at all. You hitting that copious because that and Xenoblade X. And it's like, hey, you playing with your sensory bin. All right, I can I can build a little house and put Pocopia before you get distracted from your sensory bin. Can't put it on the TV because you'll just lock on and get all overstimulated and shit, but I can hide over here in this chair. Make sure you don't eat any any sensory bin rice. But I got it. It really is nuts how aware they are of the fact that your phone like exists and is something interesting simply because of the fact that they know they see you around the house looking at it. And like it's it's not just any other random object. It is an object that is worth reaching out to and seeing what is that thing you're looking at over there, you know, and you're like, no, no, no, this is not ignore this. I'm here. I'm looking at them. We're we're we're engaging. And it's like, yeah, but I see you over there looking at this thing. I want to know what's going on. So I feel like we and it is it is glowing like fucking pulp fiction. We've threaded the needle on this because the boy will walk up to Paige's phone, pick Paige's phone up, and then walk over to her and go here, mommy, I found Siri and gives her the phone because when when and he'll do that with me. And it'd be like, Dad, I found Google and he hands me my phone because when we we lose our phones in the house constantly. So we walk around the house saying the activation word and going, where are you? And the phone goes, oh, I'm over here. OK, or you can do that. Yeah, no, it's very useful. I haven't done like mine. I wear the phone's just appear everywhere. I'm still silently listening for a vibrate. But the other thing is that he has so page will be like doing an errand or should be at the doctor or something. And he'll be like, where's mommy? And like, mommy's at the doctor and he says. Take your call mommy on the phone and tell her to come home and he'll pick up my phone and hand it to me. And what he starts to do is he starts to like do this. Tell mommy to come. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I go, OK. And then I text her and was like, the little man is telling you to come home now. I was like, I told her, OK. And look, to be fair to you, he knows it's a communications device. To be fair to these kids, if we were growing up and your parents had the Pulp Fiction Briefcase and every once in a while you'd catch them looking inside of it and you'd go, hey, what is that? And they shut it and go, nothing. You would become obsessed with the briefcase. You know, I understand. You want to hear something absolutely crazy? Yeah. This child has never seen a Mario game in his life ever. Not on the TV, not on a video, nothing. I load up the switch to on the television to like check out the weekly deals. And he looks at the TV goes, I want to see Mario, please. I want Mario, Mario, please. Because Mario is on the fucking. It's in the air. It's in the air, bro. There's like, no, there's there's a Mario book we read to him, like a cute little baby book, like 18 months ago. Oh, man. Mm hmm. Right. Yeah. And like the Mario, blue and red little guy design is like and the name is so strong. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that like Mario Optimus, you know, Superman, Gundam. Nintendo will always win. Red, white, blue console race. Red, white, blue and yellow are like super attractive designs for kids, like one million percent every time. This is studied and known. And the which we call it the we have a one over Tether's that brother in law got was a Super Nintendo controller. It's pretty cute, you know, it's again, it's a nice Tether. And it's it's pretty useful. And a lot of the ones we've the ones you have don't fit properly in her mouth. So like that one actually does. But like, you know, the like the whole like, ah, getting them started early. And it's just like, well, it's a gift and it's a it's an opportune one. And it happens to be the right size. But, you know, everything in due time where there's no rush, I'm sure. I'm sure by simple virtue of the fact that in the house, there is a glowing room with sounds coming out of it. And she's going to be around and be like, what's happening in dad's work room with the purple and green lights and the sounds and all the the curiosity is going to be baked in there, I'm sure at some point. And maybe she'll be like, oh, that's it's lame. Get it away from me. Forbidden glowing box of mystery. It's a big room for dorks. It sucks. I'm out of here. Dad's show is what it is. You know, we'll now I'm in the now I'm in the moment where he goes, I want to go to the office and I want to do dad show. No more dad show. It's my show. He said, no more dad show. It's my show. And they climbed with this chair and said, this is my chair. It's for me. And I'm like, no, not for you. You're going to grow up mentally well. There you go. Mm hmm. So so that's what your week is. Yeah, pretty much. OK, I am coming back this week. Not tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm busy all day. But Thursday I'm going to do going to start the R.E.9 insanity difficulty play through. And then after that, I'm going to play a bunch of Crimson Desert this week because that game still looks fake, even though I have confirmation that it is real. Have you seen any of Crimson Desert? I was excited based on, you know, being like, I thought Black Desert was cool and then seeing what they were doing going on. It was like, oh, cool, building off of that. But the more I learned about Black Desert and stuff, the more I kind of learned that it was like not what it was advertised to be. It's definitely not. Crimson Desert is what Black Desert was advertised to be. Right, right. Maybe it seems fake. It seems really fake. And just at the end of the day, like it taught me that I will hit stop will stop me in my tracks. I will I will look I will look twice at anything with hit stop. You know, cool. All right. Oh, yeah, go down to twitch.tv slash Pat stairs at YouTube.com slash Pat stairs at slash live and I'm streaming. I'll be streaming. All right, there you go. All right. Quick word from our sponsors, whom we love. This week, the podcast is sponsored by A.G. One, which is a daily health drink that you can use to easily get yourself all the greens and nutrition and stuff that nutrition stuff that you need every day. I know that I am trying to figure out the easiest, most efficient way to get multivitamins and probiotics and all that stuff on a regular basis. And I have tried a couple different things and I've dropped off on some of them sometimes because it just is too like annoying to set up or sometimes because it just doesn't taste great. A.G. One tastes really good. 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Um, they showed a demo off and it is supposed to be a more realistic lighting pass added after the fact via AI. Generative. Yeah. Exactly. And, um, it's, uh, the demo they showed off was running on two 50 nineties and uh, 1200 watt power supply. It's apparently supposed to be of something that's coming this year. All right. So, and in order to talk about that, we need to talk about the existence of DLSS. So DLSS was invented back in, I want to say the fucking 2000 series, maybe 3000 series, but the idea behind a deep, uh, deep learning super sampling is the idea that by feeding a bunch of a game's footage at super high resolutions into the robot, it can teach, uh, your video card via drivers how to ballpark what a lower resolution image would look like at a higher resolution. This is used so that what you can do is have the game look like it's 4k and output at 4k, but its internal render, is it like 1080p or something, which frees up a lot of resources and DLSS has gone through multiple transformer models. We're up to DLSS for and DLSS for is really great. It creates like high resolution images that are in a lot of cases superior to, uh, traditional anti-aliasing techniques. It's an existing at much faster frame rates. So the core of it, of DLSS and AMD's FSR is we are using this technology to create better looking results at a much, much faster performance. So when they say, Hey guys, we invented DLSS five to improve lighting by the way it takes 250 90s, right away, the plot is lost immediately. It's like, no, no, this is not what this is for. So they're saying that they're going to get it running on one. Uh, late again, later in this year is what they're, what they're saying, but the demo that they showed off, uh, was using two and a 1200 watt power supply. Again, second of which is the important thing of Nvidia has been pushing ray tracing and path tracing for a while, which is a basically reconstructing light rays to more accurately do something in the scene. The problem with ray tracing and path tracing, despite the fact that if there's a lot of water or reflective surfaces, it can look very nice. It's like the most expensive computational setting on your computer. It's like 20% of your, your, your computer's like energy is going into something that's like 1% visually better. It's a massive waste. It is the, it is the easiest setting to turn off and go, Oh cool. Now the game runs good. So, uh, with all, with all that setup, um, the way that this was revealed is they had digital foundry, check it out. And they got hands on to, uh, demo the tech and they took a look at it, uh, over, um, a couple of different games and the, you know, uh, flagship one was RE nine and nine. It's oblivion remastered. It's, uh, there's a couple others. Um, and right off the bat, what you end up seeing when they're looking at the tech is you're seeing, uh, they turn it on, they turn it off. And you see the, uh, change in lighting to the environments you change. You see the, the change in lighting to, um, uh, the characters. And then you see the faces on the characters become completely different faces that look exactly like every shitty gen AI filter that you've been seeing all over the place for the last year. So what's happening here is, um, they say it's not a filter. They see, yeah. I know it displayed it as a filter. That's, that's what I'm saying. This is the, this is what everyone sees, right? Um, so they, they, the feedback was properly negative because everyone has been getting conditioned into this bullshit for a long time and is getting kind of sick of it. And, uh, what you see when the filter goes on, essentially, which they saying it's not, but when you see what, when they turn it on is it effectively acts as a fuck your art direction button. Um, what, what happens is they yassify. If you want, you sure? Within their purview. Sure. You can go with that. We can go with that or the ads for, um, uh, what is it? We're under fucking attack. Play now for free. Right. And a lot of people kind of went, no thanks, Nvidia. I don't feel like designing my own AI slut right now. Actually, I think I'd rather not. It looks exactly like that shit. So there's, there's more going on here. So like DLSS is biggest thing is that there are some artifacts, but it's being based off of like the game's own footage. So what ends up happening is that you'll have minor artifacts, typically shimmering, um, or may some interface elements when you go too fast. Get a little goofy, but nothing crazy. When you look at the, the DLSS five thing, uh, grace is like the best example, but they also have a screenshot of Leon that shows a similar problem. Yeah. The filter or whatever the fuck they want to call it is adding things that aren't there. Yeah. And when it adds things that aren't there, it adds all the same things that aren't there every time. So the race image looks like a porn actress. And that's because these AI models have been trained on porn, but more than that, you take it, look at, um, Leon Leon's chin gets slightly bigger in the shot that they showed. And what this means is that per frame, the characters are going to look slightly differently per frame. So like there will be like that morphing fucking shit going on at a lower thing. And you know what, there might not even be like that sounds like, like based on the way we see, um, Jen AI stuff look right now that frame by frame, it's going to look like a weird different person thing. Totally possible. But again, Nvidia is saying that, um, it is not, uh, a filter and they specifically went into the comments to talk about how, um, the developers are going to have control to maintain the aesthetic, whatever. Um, you what? So when you see the, the video in particular, it literally has to be a filter. It's a frame buffer going into the model and then being, having changes applied to it, like so as digital fondry is reviewing the tech and you, they're getting very excited about it and they're kind of going, well, I mean, between having it off and having it on, I think it's a no brainer. I know which game I'd rather play and stuff. And you're kind of looking at the, they're zooming in on like grace and you're seeing the details of the close up and such. And it's like, okay. So like it doesn't matter whether the artist, um, and the art direction was dispec- specifically going for a particular look, a particular shading, particular face, et cetera. Every eye must be glassy or every lip must be rouged in the same sort of way. Cheeks are suddenly, they must be shiny. These same sort of just erase whatever the artist did filter drops on. Like it feels like it drops into place and you see that effect on everything else. They do when they showed it off with FIFA and every other game, you're just seeing like whatever the artist did, absolutely out of the picture. Go fuck yourself. Here's something that people are going to glance at and be like, oh, look, it's that pretty, um, Instagram fucking Snapchat filter that you're dropping on top of things. And people are so conditioned at this point to seeing that exact type of thing and being like, ugh, at this point that it doesn't, it doesn't get the reaction. They thought they were going to have what you people going, wow, it looks like we're skipping two or three gens ahead. You know, it feels like we're on PS nine. Holy shit. So there's, there's a lot to break down. So first of all, I don't believe for a second that the DLSS five announcement video is for anyone that's ever going to buy a video card or play a video game. This screams shareholder slop. Keep investing in Nvidia. Look how real it looks. I mean, Nvidia is like one of the most important companies on the planet, but it has to keep going up or else it'll crash. Right. And this has this. And the fact that it requires like whatever they're going to say it requires 50 nineties, guess what? Nobody owns a 40 90. Right. Like nobody, like most people are playing old games. Most people are playing on an old hardware. This is for no one. Like, like on a, on a practical, like people actually using this in their games level, this is actually for no one the same way that past trade path tracing is for no one. They have a streaming thing called GeForce now that they could probably turn it on and show it off, but whatever. Bad ideas have never stopped them from ramming forward, by the way. Nothing in this industry has ever been. There's just like a computational, like hard line to what is actually possible. To what you can sell to the consumer actually never mind that selling to the consumer actually matters anymore. Mind you. Well, they're also like downgrading projections for selling video cards in the future anyway. So like there's this shit is for no one. For digital poor boy. Why don't you just stream the game? If you can't afford to 50s, if you can't afford to video cards, just say so. No, no, no interest. You can't, you can't afford to 50 nineties, then just stream it. We talked about the fucking poor boy. The video game industry has a problem that the movie industry doesn't even have, which is like there's so many good video games that you can get readily available access to with current technology. The average person could easily just play games that have already come out forever. There's there's absolute like the we talk. Yeah. Fuck it. I'm out. We is totally. The drop off for almost every single person. Um, I when I was talking last week about the New Helix box and the angles that they're going to approach this from and how you're going to market the console that can also play steam. And you know, this is going to challenge not just a PlayStation, but also a steam box, etc. All the features describing that, you know, are surely going to get rolled out. I guess I was not really thinking about the one that would just erase the entire artistic intent of the game you're playing. You know, I know that we've seen. I know that we've seen like, again, filter shit dropped in over classic games and we've seen the whole like we're smoothing over the pixels of a game you love and everyone's like, we fucking hate this. It looks like dog shit, you know, play Chrono Trigger with this blur fucking vomit filter on it. Why don't you? Um, but yeah, I guess it's just like of all the things that are going to be in your face, I can easily see this being one of those things that it's like, no matter what you play, look, it just looks better on Helix or whatever. Or like the individual offerings becoming part of this, the bullet points they're trying to sell you on. So the DLSS five thing before I forget, because it's a point that it's important in my head anyway, is like everybody's focusing on Grace's face and the Starfield ladies face and how they're being yassified for their own protection. I mean, it's kind of hard not to when it looks like the tweeter, the Twitter guy post that says, this is how she should have looked. No, well, no, you can choose that. Like what's actually like even like worse is something that happens with AI generated imagery. Um, so are you familiar with the yellow tint in AI imagery? No. Okay. So AI has an issue with its, its output and that is a weirdly disproportionate amount of all images ever have more yellow in them than other colors. Ah, there just happens to be a crazy amount of yellow images. Deus ex piss filters. Okay. As a result, some AI models are skewed yellow compared to whatever their source would be. Interesting. Over and over and over, right? And what you're seeing with the DLSS five thing is every single compare and contrast image made this scene like twice as bright. Yeah. The Assassin's Creed shadows forest. Like was in particular. A dark forest, a dark street under rain and a dark room underground in the Starfield one, all of them are just super brightly, saturatedly lit. And that's even a bigger problem than the fucking AI face shit. A resident was a fucking horror game that takes place in the dark. And I get it. And I think I think the. Yeah, the fact that the faces just came across that fucking like immediately revolting for anyone who's gotten conditioned to this shit was like, like you if it was just something where they only showed environments and or just and such like it probably this probably wouldn't have hit and been as like, oh my God, please fucking stop. But seeing their face look exactly like the you won't last 10 minutes. Playing this game, you know, and you're just like, guys, how did you think this was going to go over well? So the digital fan, like the video and such, like, I mean, yeah, it's everyone is is is rightfully upset, dislikes through the fucking roof. And the the. Yeah, the examples they gave, they can't the comment they said was where it was. Yeah, that basically that the developers will choose what to toggle on and what to toggle off and such. Yeah. And I don't. It I don't again, I don't believe for a second that these types of things are kind of like when you have to go to your your parents' house and turn the TV fucking blur, moving most shit off, right? Or the fact that YouTube shorts automatically run a filter on everybody's face now as soon as it goes on and it makes it look different. Add on me to it. It accentuates all the hairs and lines. It's and you have no say in the matter. There is zero precedent for any of us to believe that this shit is not going to be on by default and pushing its way into your face. And you're going to have to opt out of it more than anything, right? It's it's 100 percent going to be the way that this goes. And yeah, I mean, fucking these, the I feel stupid to keep saying the word art as if it matters as if it means anything, because it doesn't fucking mean anything, right? Is where we get into what's going on with Digital Foundry. And I feel like people haven't been paying attention and literally have never paid attention to Digital Foundry in the history of their thing. Everyone is going. I don't understand how Digital Foundry can find this impressive. When it screws up the art design, Digital Foundry does not. Do fucking exhaustive technical treaties on art design. They're engineering nerds and tech freaks. That's what everyone always went to them for. They're like, I want to know why this thing runs. I want to know what technique this is. I want to know how all this shit works. But if it's bump mapping or fucking ray tracing or whatever the fuck. Right. They're technologists. Right. Like, like at its core, Digital Foundry is like a technologist. Right. Like organization. And so you're, you're biting, you're biting into this big old product right now. This tasty product. So there's a post that I'm going to directly quote from Chris Wolfhardt, who I think summed it up really perfectly. He took a screenshot from a resume, two screenshots from Resident Evil Games in which Digital Foundry was like dick riding the path tracing in it, where it's a fucking, it's a fucking typewriter with like slightly better shadows on one than the other. I'll send it to you. Okay. And it's like the most nothing shit ever. It's like, who gives a fuck? And they say serial killers often fixate on minute improvements to methodology in the desperate hope of mastering their method of choice will make the rush of their first kill return. And I think. Right. We have seen technical guys in the games business go from like the fucking Super Nintendo to like the 360 era and just be completely losing their mind at all the technology advancements. But now we're at the point where we're talking about the fucking reflected resolution of a path traced puddle in the fucking ground. And it doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter. It is the ultimate in fucking splitting hairs now. But as technologists who also rely on industry support to send them for direct footage and devices to test. Yeah, of course, they're going to Dick ride any new technical like development because that's what they do. And these are this is this is a place that you turn to this trustworthy for the like the level of granularity is always going to be to the extremes because it's going to be more granular than you would ever go to find for certain levels of, for example, for finding out like which version of something is dropping more frames, which, you know, or to the point where with the games we play that are higher responsiveness, like certain versions dropping more frames actually feels worse to play and such. These are these are things that, you know, your way you're like the amount that we're looking for is way in the weeds compared to where the average consumer wants to go. And then you you live in that space and then you take it to the end degree with these types of moments. So yeah, what I will say is in the video, right. There's moments where you hear them say something to the effect of I think it's like the the the artistic vision is a question or it's a concern. You know, they're like, they're going, wow, this looks phenomenal. This this tech is really great. Now, the artistic and the inter the interstitial vision, you know, the changes that might have to it, that is a bit of a concern or that is a question to add to be answered. You know, they kind of like, I forgot the exact phrasing of it, right? That gets posed. But overall, it's like, yeah, but Red Crumb of plausible to say that, like, ultimately, yes, this is wiping out what the art direction intention was for all of the things you're looking at here. But ultimately, it looks like we're skipping a generation or four ahead. So wow, right? Yeah, except it turns every white woman into Aubrey. It everything it looks like every everyone has to look the same like at that. The same trained faces, same trained features. And again, like, if you deliberately did something like made someone's eyes not reflective in a moment, you know, in a moment or whatever, fuck all that. Right. So I think I think it's it's crazy because like photo realism as an art style is also an art style. It's a choice. But more than that, different interpretations of photo realism look different. R E nine is going for photo realism. It doesn't look anything like fucking art graders or fucking Call of Duty. Like one of the first things could bring up art, whatever. One of the first things in art school you learn about when you're like, wow, look at the photo realistic, incredible work here. And then it's like, yeah, people learn how to do that so that they then break the rules, right? Like you like you get competent at basically becoming a photo. You are a photographer with your hands, with certain mediums, with Conte or charcoal or whatever. And then you diverge from it after that point. And you develop a style that essentially is something that knows what the rules are so that you can break them in a way that still conveys something. Right. I don't know what this felt. What this this looks like when it runs over anything that's not meant to be realistic. None of the demos they showed. Oh, it probably freaks the fuck out and is not suitable. Right. They didn't drop. We're not seeing this running over high five rush. Right. We're not seeing it running over anything that is going not photo realistic. And like that's an that's an extra element of this, too, where it's like this particular triple A homogenized like, oh, now they're all going to look even more homogenized. That's worse. It gets worse because you made the thing that pushes it even further together. It all looks like the fucking Twitter threads, you know, I want to say it was a Japanese developer that basically talked about how like all the growth in the games business is like games between like 20 and 40 dollars because expensive games are so expensive that they represent multiples of that and that their point was not even that. Their point was like, hey, if you localize your game into a different region, remember that it has to hit this range in other regions also when you convert the prices. Like if you just raw convert things into Brazil dollars, hey, guess what? No one's going to buy it because it's like a house. I find it particularly funny that Ari Knight is the chosen example because it's a current hit game that looks great and is doing very well. And this is, you know, it's topical, right? You know what? Great point in those in those screenshots. They don't show an enemy. That's what I was about to say, Pat. What happens if you show a monster that's supposed to be fucked up and disgusting or anything that's designed to be weirdly sort of human, but not human, right? What does it do to a zombie or a creature that's meant to be dead or anything that has any kind of feature? Like what does it do for that? I would love to know because the only thing it understands, obviously, is the distilled beauty filter that we've trained, you know, every girl to look like and every guy to look like. How do you drop that onto a realistic art style that is also being inhuman on purpose? Show us what a monster looks like. I want to know. The other thing doesn't get rosy cheeks and glossy eyes. We're not even going to spend much time on it because it's obvious every time we talk about AI. But like now that we're past training the the the the model on the game itself and now it's showing us realism looking AI humans. OK, where did that training data come from? Did it come from the same? Slot, oh, oh, oh, assets and you can't anything else. You can't even get into the training data part of this. Like, yeah, you have to just take that and sidestep it entirely. Oh, it looks like a real person. OK, that means you stole the real person's photo. Or probably billions. I mean, look, yesterday, like I was describing just you see this type of shit again. How many posted it? Somebody posted what it would look like here. Well, I'll show it to you. Yeah, OK, so thanks. The yassified creatures that look like. All right, great. I mean, it's just. I'm I'm the wording I used talking to people yesterday about this was that like I'm trying my hardest to not give in to industry crash accelerationism. And it's it's fucking it's coming up on my neck like Sasuke's cursed seal. Like I got a fucking I got a. Oh, so last week, Willie, I think this is a decent segue. Last week, we talked about you. You put your fingers in your ears and you were like, no, no, no, AI stuff for Microsoft. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Did we or no, the new console or whatever. But there wasn't anything actually announced. Did the co-pilot stuff get announced in between last week and now? It must have. OK. So Xbox, having seen you, they said, Willie's right. And they said, you know, here's what the AI shit coming to Xbox is going to be. And they've announced what it is. It's co-pilot co-pilot is coming to all your Xbox games. Of course, it is. Of course. So this means that an AI robot will be hiding in the background of your processes, sucking up frames so that you can ask it a question. And if the question is about the most popular game of all time that you could have solved with a one second Google search, it'll maybe give you the right answer. But if it's about about if it's about fucking Icaruga or some fucking fighting game, it'll tell you some bullshit. And then you'll never use it again. Then you'll like this type of thing for video games. You'll ask it a question and it has one chance to tell you the right answer. And if it gives you the wrong answer once, you'll never use it again. There is no other place this could have gone because you're having you're coming up with a way to sell an expensive piece of hardware to people in an affordable an unaffordable industry and an unaffordable economy, and you're also giving something that you're telling them they can play it elsewhere, that they can play it on their existing platforms, etc. And so you have to come up with a feature to pull people over. And if it's not going to be exclusives, all you have to go on is what is the current bubble based on? What is everything leaning towards? How do we get people to come in and build that and get them for the investment machine going? You tell them that the box has a unique AI thing that they can't get anywhere else. That's that's that's all it is. Robot that's always wrong. How to beat this boss? What? So look, I don't know the full deal with the folks over at Digital Foundry and everything like that. But I do know that all nice people, but I think their heads to to deep in the beast. I see people quote not quoting, but people are mentioning one person in particular, John Lineman, who just wrote dot dot dot on Twitter. And I guess it could mean a lot though. It could mean a lot. So nobody I don't know what any I don't know what any of that is. But like one thing's clear is like, yeah, I don't maybe not everybody's on the same page, you know, with whatever's happening. It's possible. It's definitely possible sometimes. He's an anti AI person who has written about that. I see. I see. Okay. Okay. Stanchley. That's got to be awkward at work. That's got to be awkward. Yeah. Okay. Well, um, well, the other thing is that if like, so even from a like a technologist perspective, the AI stuff is kind of self defeating because like the entire like onus of image generation is just like next neighbors, like, like imagining an image, like essentially at some point, there's no graphical technology in it at all. It's it's just copying existing images. It's like a completely different discipline. Well, this were to replace image generation. Then the whole thing that those guys are into would just disappear and make no mistake. Right. If this is not a filter, but we're seeing this, these effects and this is the end video is putting out who are again, the most important company on the fucking planet at this point. Right. Um, what do all competing companies that are not in video start running to to compete with this tech to do anything if they like they're going to centers. They're of course, but they they are going to be the ones running filters and running the same shit that you see on everything that's awful. Now, on top of these games as a standard feature, like if they can't do this, they're going to just drop back to that. And, um, hey, guess what? Will your cousin be able to? Will my cousin be able to tell the difference or care? Or will it just be like, oh, wow, cool. The latest assassin's creed looks fucking sicker than ever. And I'm sorry to ask my cousin that. I'm too busy getting them pregnant. Alex, what are you doing? What are you doing? Stop it. You see, Samoa Joe, usually when you bang your adoptive step sister, you got a 0% chance of incest, but then you see me, Alex, and I'm the genetic freak, right? So suddenly your chances go up by 33 and a third percent. And then you add Tom, who's Patricia's dad and my mom's cousin. So that increases the chances by 8% eight and a third percent. So you see Samoa Joe, when you bang your second cousin, it's sacrifice. The numbers don't lie. This was the first thing that I saw when I woke up. I'm like, go downstairs. Making myself a bagel and I got him some milk and he wanted. Chariot in a tea cup and I'm having my bagel. I fucking hop on the Internet and I'm like, what a people? What a people? And then like, I'm like, oh, Alex and Patricia got married and I have a baby in the street fighter thing. I'm like, that's weird steps. Fucking it's because they big brother and sister. He's adopted by Tom. So that's the it's a strange choice. That's pretty like step sister incest. He shit, but typical for anime, right? And then I scroll it in. And you could have left it there. You could have left it there out of nowhere. He's like, by the way, my parents and Tom are related. You could like my brain. It's so crazy. I'm like, I'm like googling. OK, and it's like share grandparent. That's second cousin. Like, OK, they could have just left it at he was the adopted. OK, you know, so they grew up together and it's the step sister dynamic or so. You're like, yeah, that's not like everything so far. Everything's bad. Yeah, they're now they're related. It's bad now. And everything was platonic about the energy so far projected to these two characters throughout every other game. And then I see the fucking image and it's part of his arcade mode ending. And on the right side of the screen is him and Patricia getting married. And on the left side of the screen is him as a five year old holding her as an infant. And then in the upper left is her as like a smiling, adorable infant baby. It is just like. It's it's like it's specifically the like we grew up together like all my my little cute, you know, childhood friend, sister, whatever it's specifically going for that. And it's not even and it's not even there. And the other thing too is that like it's also like it's not like, oh, look, there they are in their adult, their grown ups and like now they're like making out or something. It's like, nah, she's already preggers. But she's seven months long. Right. So click the fucking Mugetics train on that to see what kind of Lannister shit is happening. I mean, I I I busted out a fucking chart. So this is the problem. And I fucking I know you. Everyone did. Everyone did. And this we're going to break down all the factors here. Second cousin is the answer. Right. And and and that grandparent that like it sucks that we have to start doing fucking genealogy tracing on a street fighter character. And also all all factors here. And it's also burying like, well, no, this is the lead. But like, it's burying the other story, which is that he has a last name and like nobody cares. Winger, Alex Winger, apparently weird last name, whatever. So they hold on, hold on. Pause. Alex has come out in Street Fighter Six. He's available. OK, and the game updated with him and his patch notes for other stuff. Just that is the story. Oh, oh, and everyone's pretty happy with this this version of Street Fighter Six. Meanwhile, the Tekken players, I know, somehow suicide watch, somehow even more on fire. Tekken is really going through it because they said we're going back to basics and it sounds like they didn't do that. So everyone's losing it. Great. But hey, Lily can do a double Condor Spire. Right. So anyway. All right. So. OK, so they're second cousins because they share a grandparent. All right. This means that they are one thirty second genetically similar. Similar. Right. We're talking a couple percent. Let's do some Steiner math, baby. What this means, what this means is that for future genealogical progress, right, they are at the furthest limit that society would accept. It is. It is like your second cousin. Second. Is you are in the line. Clear. You're. But you are technically medically clear. But the social reality is not the same. Do we enjoy living on the line? Is the line really where we want to build our house? Do we want to? So is this structure sound is from a genetic perspective? This is on the lights. Maybe. Right. All right. Let's move on to family situation. OK. Step siblings. Is raised together. Not illegal. Right on the line. And there's two types of step siblings, too. There's parent married in or like I'm ten and I'm now part of a family. And there's a there's my ten year old sister, right? That's one. But this is not that. This is I'm there from day one. I can't believe they went for a double whammy on this. And either one of those on its own would have. No, we're not. No, it's a triple whammy. You're not you're not you're not thinking with portals enough. OK. So now whammy to is family relationship. Right. Functionally identical to real siblings. But not technically. I think this is over the line. This is if people would be like that's no good. Right. Number three. Ratchet vibes. Age gap. Five years. There is a five year age gap, which as adults is super normal. Right. A 25 and a 30 year old. Yeah. Or I think they're I think they're I think that's that. Yeah, I think they're 25 and 30 in in in when they're in the Street Fighter Six story is like that's normal. Yeah. Right. 30 35 whatever. However, that's not the reality of that age gap. The reality of the age because everybody goes, oh, Leonardo DiCaprio is dating a 25 year old. That means he was 14 when she was zero or whatever. Shit. It's like, well, he didn't know her when she was fucking zero. He's a creep and he met this person when they were 20, but he was their adults. Right. No. OK. It's the growing up together part. I met this person when they were. OK, it's it's the growing up. It's the growing up when they were zero. The zero and five is real for this situation. That did happen. The so that the that you get the this isn't like, oh, you look so cute in your baby pictures. This is I remember when I changed my wife's diapers as a child. So that's fucking weird. It it feels like every checkbox of the emoto like childhood friend thing, you know, it feels like every checkbox like needed to be hit here in one person. And it's almost like they couldn't decide on one or the other or the other. So they just went all of it, actually. All of all of on the line on every single one of them. And it could have just been any one of those and everyone would have been like, they seemed to just be siblings. That's a weird poll. But OK, what are we doing? And you're just like, nah, if you got past any one of those, there was another fucking wall behind it, man. Well, I have I have that. I have the the mental thought that that sums up how we have fucking strange. It wasn't the second impact. It was the third strike all along. So this Alex and Patricia's relationship is the type of relationship that when they have grandkids, they're going to be explaining it to their grandkids and their grandkids are going to be going, oh, what? Like the way we see our grandparents and they're like, how do you and grandpa get together? And they're like, well, grandpa was a 25 year old man and he would hang out outside the high school waiting for me to get out for two years. And eventually my dad said he kept he kept asking and I kept saying no. And eventually I gave in. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex is going to be with his with Patricia helping their daughter take their first steps. Right. And this is one year old. How I met your mother. How I met your mother. And it'll be like I and it'll look over and it's like I remember when I helped you take your first steps. Oh, man. OK, all right. Weird. So this is where I remember when I used to hold your mother like this. Fucking weird. Can are we in a world where patch notes on the story are possible? We are, but it's too late. Can we get a balance passed on the script? I I because this is not what they wanted. This is everyone talking about on Day One of Alex. No rational character slander. I mean, like it's almost never been done. And they're and like at least like they're not even going to be. Oh, he's not even sitting on the iron throne to make up for it. Like if this were a westeros, that'd be one thing. You know, I just I'm watching like the most violent like anti takes on this. Just like sucker punch me. I have a mutual whose response to this was, I guess, people will stop making fun of me as much for playing the gay pedophile in BlazBlue because they're going to play the racist incest guy. And I'm like, what is racist? And then I get linked to the Street Fighter Five story mode where he runs into Dawson on New in New York and Dawson floats over to him to ask him and he goes, oh, what are you a mugger? Oh, and then they fight. And it's like, why? And of course, he's based off of Hulk Hogan. OK, I have I need to see what the fuck that's about. Um, it's fucking weird. That'll sound good. Hey, Alex, Alex is from the mean streets of Metro City. OK, it's I. Yeah, I don't think I don't think this is what they wanted Day One of Alex to be about. And I I'm. I want I feel like we've entered the realm of you can just you can just change that script because there was no problem up until right now. It's too late. Like, well, I was talking to Erie this morning and Erie tells me that they're in the fucking Portland FGC chat and discord and they just hear somebody scream out Groomerang rain. It's too fucking late. It's too late. We can know. No, we could put it back in the bottle. We could put it back in. We can do this like you we can it's not too late. People haven't even updated their copies of the game yet. It's it's fucking crazy like. It was Juna and it was like Kai married a four year old and G and and that chick from the Blaise Blue married a cat. But at least none of them fuck their cousins. And it's like. Yeah, crazy. Well, because the the I'm actually on the gears is their mental growth. Is the. No, here's where it goes. Here's where it goes. OK. You talk about Kai Kiske and Dizzy and you go I'm actually. Oh, she's a gear. It's different. OK, that's one I'm actually you talk about fucking the Blaise Blue shit. You're like, I'm actually like, oh, they're a regular person. They just have the body of a cat or whatever. You talk about Alex. Well, you have to do three. I'm actually you. That's three. I'm actually. Oh, actually, they're not that different in age. I'm actually they only grew up together. They're not they're not brother and sister. I'm actually their only second cousins. That's I just I need to know like why it had to be every box ticked on that. It's nuts. It's it's not even consistent with existing depictions of the characters. The two characters in every comic and every that's what I'm. Everything on did everything, of course. And and like they were going for the heartwarming twist that Alex is walking around trying to figure out his identity and so on. But really back home, he's already grown and his life has advanced and whatever. You know, they were going for this sweet heartwarming moment and just leaned into the fucking the emoto shit. And now you're like, I think the person who there was never an ounce of that energy. I think the person who storyboarded or commissioned the storyboarding for the image of her holding her, him holding her as a baby on the left and them getting married on the right. It should be investigated. That's like that. That shit is so nuts. It is. It is so crazy. Within the same within the same screenshot. There is a visceral reaction that is you can't actually because we're stopping you with it all being here in one. Yeah, man, we can patch. We can patch the plot just like, come on, come on, guys. There has to be some. They can't just know no cell. This response like every it's the only thing people are talking about. What part of it are you going to fucking change? Change one thing. The one thing. The the cousin line. Yeah. OK. So it's like still fucking weird. Yes, yes. But but now there's no blood. You just you remove the blood from the situation. Dude, it's the one so nuts because like, oh, by the way, we're actually related after all. That's that's what I'm saying. Right. Why? Like you didn't have to do that. It was like it was people are already like I would if you edit out the cousin line and then you remove the blood from the equation and then you're just stuck with the other two. But now we're doing a little bit less Steiner math. Bro, this dude turned heel like a fucking motherfucker. Like, wow, dude. Oh, wow. That's heel. That's. Whoa. Oh, whoa. Because I bet I bet Kenny's jam projects morning, dude. Jam project on the theme of incest, bro. They got the sacky ender on the fucking incest track, man. All right. Well, this. Hey, I was so excited to play Alex. And guess what? I'm still excited to play Alex. I'm going to play Alex later today. This is this is. This is I can't think people. I want you to reach out to me with characters that have been I just locked on this hard. Well, it's absolutely insane. I know that there's generational fucking ball drops, but. Oh, yeah. But this is the only one I have right now. The fact that it's like the Street Fighter story, the thing that matters the least in the world. And it's the only thing we can talk about right now. Oh, by the way, yeah, Blake, it got nerfed. Sure. Yeah. His world tour in story mode. And they found the one mention of Street Fighter 3 from Alex is one time I traveled around the world and some of the guys I fought were real weirdos. That's it. That's the end of the Gil storyline. You know, look, Aya, Aya got it pretty bad and Typhlosion got it pretty bad in the lore drops. What was Pokemon? Yeah, but the what I know we talked about this, but what was it? Typhlosion's in the files, bro. Oh, yeah. Typhlosion's in the files. Typhlosion's in the files. Yeah, there's a cave. Don't don't go there. Bad things, bad things in the cave. Um, fuck it's. Uh, yeah, I can't believe just how I started my fucking day. This is the first thing I fucking see. Mm hmm. Um, you excited to play Alex? Here you go. Pat. Is it his new move, the predator stance? Yes, it is. He learned it. Oh, no, sorry. It's the parlor stance. Prowler, prowler stance. The parlor stance, bro. I'm prowling. Where are you prowling my own house? Oh, no. I'm not. I'm not. Oh, no, please. Please. He deserves so much better. You know, this was meant to be the new spotlight. Luke, Alex, Luke took the spotlight and Alex never got that shine. I Alex deserves better, but we need to remember that Alex and storylines do not mix because Alex has maybe the worst storyline ever in Street Fighter. He has to take revenge because over over top winning a match against fair against Tom doesn't even die. And he tells him you don't have to do this. I'm fine actually. And Alex is like, no, I gotta get revenge. Insane storyline. Totally weird. Oh, and and Gill is like, you're a fine specimen. Join my cult, you know, but. No. I just, I mean, it's just, yeah, a torch pass, you know, I just wanted a nice clean torch pass and now we're doing fucking cleanest. Don't get any of that fucking outside the family DNA on this torch. Just all in here. Now we're doing 23 and me on fucking Alex, man. There's a song for this. I posted it earlier, which is like, if they're in your family tree, you have got to let them be. And yeah, it's don't do it. It's not good. It's not good to do. Ancestry comm is not a dating website. Back HP, bro. Get over here. Flash top flash chop to turn you around first. I just. Hey, man, he's got a one wing danger. And he's got a bunch of really cool extensions on his command grabs and Rufal Mager thinks he's probably pretty good. So that's cool. I could see that possible. Yeah. It's not too late. It's not doing some cool stuff for them. OK, well, look, how about, I mean, if it were, I don't know what bearing this has on the situation. However, I can say that I opened up my percentage tracker this week and I did some quick maths when I saw that an additional five percent of Capcom had been acquired by Saudi Arabia, specifically the MISC foundation. And apparently enough, a different part of Saudi Arabia. Yeah, well, because the MISC foundation is specifically the Muhammad bin Salman group, and then the PIF is a public investment fund. So there's different sources for where the money comes from. And the. There's different whatever organizations that ultimately do the investments. But what we're looking at is basically five percent on top of five percent. So 10 percent now, right? So, yeah, that's a 10 percent. And we're talking another, however, many billion, because I believe previously it was somewhere I think it might have been around seven or eight billion or so. But it's still like, you know, that is multiple SNKs in its entirety, because the SNK deal, I believe, was at six hundred million in costs. So we are probably 10 to 12 SNKs deep worth of investment at this point for anyone who's playing the long at home. So that's fun. Now, here's the thing, your your transition was legendary. And that's that's that's a segue that that can't be beat. Much like Scott Steiner at Sacrifice. However, I was going to go with one. I was originally going to go with the one piece of somewhat yay AI news that happened. Oh, please. And it was simply that the Supreme Court. Declined a dispute over copyrights for AI generated material. You know what that is? You know what the genesis of that precedent is? Well, so the case that was specifically brought up by a computer scientist who was denied a copyright for a visual, a piece of visual art made with his AI system. And so they declined to take up the issue on whether it was generated, whether generated AI generated art can be copyrighted under US law. Mm hmm. What what did you so? Back in the tens, a monkey took a selfie of itself. A macaque monkey grabbed a a camera off some British guy and took some photos of itself like legitimate, like this is this monkey made it. And in the attempt to copyright it. The legal decision came down that only human created works can file for copyright, not monkeys. OK, these and birds. OK, dogs and cats are not eligible for copyright. Only human beings. Oh, that also applies to robots. And so the the Supreme Court declining to take up the issue. Why that matters is because the case in particular that was escalated through the lower case, the lower courts, rather, it got to a point where the. Yeah, the lower courts decided that it's an anything that's not human created is ineligible for copyright protection. So that's how to make it. So that's where the case remains. It also makes sense from the original purpose of copyright, which is defend the the desire to create works in the public sphere. Yeah. And and so to quote Owen Dennis on this, actually, which is a pretty good thing to keep in mind with the precedent here is that now companies. This is a huge win because companies would never in their right minds pressure you to use AI if you get to say we can do that as long as you don't want to own the stuff you make. And anyone can use it for any reason without paying you for it. Yeah, they're not going to like that. There's a problem in hey, we made AI to make this TV show. Oops. Every character in this TV show is now. What do you what do you own domain? What likeness do you own? Yeah. Now that we popularize the use of AI, you can use AI to take these characters and make them do whatever the fuck you want, especially things that copyright owners would not like, which and this is hilarious because we were just talking about not long ago, how Disney was like against all of it. And then I was like, why are they against it? Because they're investing in and buying into their own platform or you can generate Disney characters and different scenarios or whatever. Right. So like, how does the how is this all going to apply at large? Now, of course, I think one individual like this is you have a case of precedent here, which is great and can be relied on until it's not or until bigger, larger, more fucking money from the mouse, for example, decides to step in and have something to say about it, at which point this win no longer is a win that's guaranteed anymore. Right. But at the very least in the meantime, until that happens, this is pretty good for the basis of the idea that you cannot copyright anything that you generate. Yeah, legal legal legal obstacles for these freaks is always nice. OK, a couple other things going on. I guess there is the. Yeah, so we talked about what's going on with Alex and Street Fighter Tekken on fire, as we mentioned, you know, and just other fighting game stuff going on. The token account yet. What's going on a couple hours ago or yesterday? I didn't see this. But Todd Howard did a special little announcement going how excited Bethesda is to work with DLSS five going forward, working on Starfield and onwards. And like, that's what they're going to do for fucking elder scrolls. So it doesn't look like shit. They're going to just a high slop filter the whole fucking thing. Oh, man, that's awesome. Oh, fuck them. Oh, geez. Re-releases where you just drop a filter on it and put it back out. Yeah, good. Good. Work. It's the ending to me that that is an appreciate it. And it's literally what old what old pixel rereleases were like 15 years ago. You know, did you see like the the oblivion remastered characters have this thing applied to them? They look fucking bad. I didn't know because they have non human fucking features features. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Fucking terrible. Excuse me. So the other things I was going on. So yeah, Tech Ed is on fire, but Tocon is actually listening to feedback. And I don't know if you heard about any of the changes. I did. They added a huge variety of changes. Oh, too many to get into. So it's like everything that you and me and everyone has complained about. They're like, it's either gone or been added. I can summarize, really. They basically made it so that you can use your assists in more free stylish ways. You're not locked into the same repetitive routes. You can pick any version of the assist to use it any in any way at any route. You can you're not stuck using air assists when you want them to come out on the ground. You can only use them at a certain height. When you mash jab, you don't get the auto combo coming out when you whiff. So now it's only when you confirm. It's a massive big deal. They added and in terms of combos being sort of stagnant, they added a style system effectively, which rewards you with better scaling on combos that are more stylish. So you get more damage, actually, for being less repetitive and for doing more unique setups and such. A lot of and they also sped up the the tagging system itself. They made it so that wall breaking doesn't happen anywhere near as often. You don't get wall break every time you do a super. And when you do get a wall break, it leads to like a hard knockdown, which means you can go get like a nice advantage situation. So they basically are just listening to like everything that everyone was complaining about with that, which is great. Because thank God, you know, this is a fucking cool looking game. And it would suck to have, you know, that feeling be there on an archsist game, no less, mind you. So they went into a ton of it. But like 10 big changes they basically put out in this one video. And yeah, you can see, you know, you can see the demo of what they're going for and how they're like, legit going, OK, this wasn't it. You know, we're going to we're going to make it so that the building blocks of a good game are here, but let's reinvent a bunch of these systems from the ground up. And so I hope that we get another chance to get hands on it to see what it's like now. You know, it's very interesting to me and we'll see see how it goes. But one of the thoughts that I had looking over this enormous list of of like very fundamental changes was that there is a sequence of events in here in which I should apologize to the two XKO developers, which is one of the things that the devs, the two XKO talked about is that a lot of the reason the game took so long to come out was that it's their first fighting game that they've made. And like that you would they would do like a change and then they would do like exhaustive testing to see how that worked. And then I look over at Arc System Works, who've been making fighting games for 100 years. And they see the complaints and the people who've done it forever. Just go, OK, change this, change this, change this, add that, add that, add that. What do you set it to? Set it to this, this, this, this and that from experience. Because they know because they made guilty gear and guilty gear and guilty gear and blaze, blue and blaze, blue and blaze, blue. Yeah, experience matters. It matters. It does matter. I was looking at the amount of changes that they're making. And I was like, I'm fucking bedazzled and the level of they've turned it into a fairly different game with these changes. And the thing is too, as well as, you know, something is said, like there is because Tokon, it's a mixture of like Western and Japanese. But of course, ArcSys, you know, doing most of the work on that. We know that, yeah, it does a lot of folks in Japan, too. A lot of the players that are joining the devs and people that have been in that in the business of making fighting games and designing combat, etc. For literally half their lives are at this point. You know what I mean? Like it's been forever. In North America, you have like fucking less than three or two guys. You got a girl, guys. It's a very small amount, you know? It's so, yeah, it does make a difference. Really happy with that. Very, very cool to see. And, you know, the the fact that like I can see them doing things like you don't want to make a change where you've deleted the assets we made like wall breaking from the game entirely. So how do we make it so that it's actually more rare and doesn't affect the game as much as the pacing doesn't get as fucked up? I don't think there's ever going to be an ArcSystem works fighting game that doesn't have a fucking wall break in it ever again. They love that shit. I wonder, I mean, I like dust combos turning into these cool things where you land in a different stage of that shit looks dope as hell, you know? But though, and again, I think the idea to play with the wall is an interesting one. But I do love that you can live in a world where for everything that Strive says, which is, OK, you got the corner, here's a big reward. Now, the person who's in the corner gets to keep playing. You could have a street fighter that says, die in the corner, bitch. Sit and die in this corner. Do you know? Both can exist and should. Do you want to know something about me that just happened that has shown me up to be the biggest fucking scrub shit bitch ever? I was recently watching a Rufal Manger video about fucked up overheads in history. Overheads that are just fucking lies. Like, hey, we have shit in there that it's like it's a low kick and you're like, what the fuck, that's an overhead. And one of the examples he uses. It's a great video. You should check it out is Testaments dust in Guilty Gear XX, where the fucking red hands come out of the fucking ground. Yeah, yeah. And see, I played a lot of Testament when I first started playing Guilty Gear. And this led to the thought in my mind going. Dosts are overheads. It's just a lie. And like it's just a lie. But like every Guilty Gear match I've ever played. The flashing in my fucking eyes at fast forward like dusts are overheads. Every time the yellow flash went off. That was meant to be a moment to stand up. I've eaten every dust. Oh, my God. OK, yeah, that's the stats. A basic universal overhead that everyone has never says this is an overhead. Or this and I just never. Oh, my God, because I was always like, why does this launcher take so long to come out? I can never hit them. I I believe the command list does say it. No, I but you need to go to a part of the game that is forbidden in order to discover that play put Temkin. You don't need overhead. I will die before I enter the lab, he says. Yeah, there's a couple blind spots, I'll be honest. Yeah, no, that's OK. And you know what? You take those and you accept them to follow through on this philosophy. It's it's, you know, that's what I can. I can I can get to the top of the mountain without fucking doing training mode. I'll I yeah, I'm a dumb guy. Well, we all know the Street Fighter Six doesn't start until you reach High Master. This is insane. The goalposts. This is insane. Excuse me while I grab these goalposts and go on my way. The real game doesn't begin until at least at least 1900 M.R. It was a great video by Sejam about how ranked isn't real, talking about the mental headspace and how fucked up you get. And then Pat the flip put out a great article. Counter to the to the discussion about he basically runs down how he gets frustrated that fighting game products design gourmet fighting game food. But he's forced to turn it into dog food and the dog food is ranked and how bad ranked is for for fucking like everything to do. But it's absolutely mandatory because people just want to hop on and hit matches. And I originally like kind of disagreed with that a little bit because I'm like, I just want ranked, just want right now. I don't want to practice. And then I went to 2x go and I played some player matches and I actually had a better time than I usually do playing ranked. And I was like, maybe there's something here. And then I remembered, wait a second, the reason I'm having a better time in player matches is because I'm winning more. And then I realized that I am. There you go. I sit in that article. Hey, man, guess no, I have more fun in a fighting game when I fucking win more. And whatever mode is going to give you that is going to feel good and leave a good memory. And then that'll be the end of it. Hey, guess what? There are a lot of great ways to enjoy this dish and a good a good place should offer up many so that you can enjoy this game online ranked offline, casual, whatever you need a lot of different ways. Single, you know, it's a great it's a great thing. You can enjoy in many different ways. I actually fantastic tweet about this earlier today, which was me lose it. Well, let me see if I can find the person. But it was me losing a set in person of zero to 30. Oh, you know what? Good game. I guess I guess I have a lot to learn. Me losing a single match in ranked. Oh, I didn't know they let illiterate pedophiles play this game. Yeah, that dude, like the last month has been me basically saying different versions of exactly that. It's like insane. It's my whole thing, my whole thing with the with local couch playing or fighting games being so much better than anything and that energy not being captured by the version that people get into nowadays is that feeling is fucking lost immediately and one match online where you lose and you want to fucking burn your house down. It sucks. It sucks. There is there is we need to make sure that feeling can be captured, man. It's such an important part of why we love the thing. But anyway, like I've already solved this. I believe crushing force was presented as the answer to all our problems. You're right. To stop being cowards about it. Anyway, only other things I was going to touch on there. So I mean, there was a bit of a fun one seconds before we went live. So Jeff Kaplan exited Blizzard and a lot of interesting fucking things to say. One, announced his new game Legend of California. Two, talked about the biggest fuck you moment of his career, which was walking into a meeting at Blizzard and basically hearing the exact, you know, the thing we say every single week. A strong man that we've created out of our perception of CEOs and rich people. And it's an unrealistic depiction of a nonhuman evil entity. We're closer than you'd think. What ultimately broke me in my Blizzard career was when I got called into the CFO's office and he sits me down and he says he gives me a date at the time, which is 2020, and we're going to slip into 2021. And he says, Overwatch has to make this amount of money by 2020. And in every year, then needs a recurring revenue of this amount. And then he says to me, if we don't do this amount, we're going to lay off a thousand people and that's going to be on you. And that was the biggest fucking moment I've ever had in my career. It felt surreal to be in that condition. As someone who's worked on a lot of games, made a lot of games, you get in these meetings where they're going, Fortnite has 1,400 people working on it. So if we hire 1,400 people and make it free to play, we'll make that money, right? I've heard this. I've heard that version of almost every from almost everyone I've ever spoken to in the industry, including you, who I think heard it in person. We have made this quote like we have said quotes exactly like this on this show constantly here, like some financial nerd, literally say that out loud. I need more specifics on the particular one. The Tomb Raider shit with the multiplayer. Maybe not that project, I mean, but there are there's been so much over the years of just the simple basics of, yeah, these guys are doing this. They've got this all going on on the project. Can't we just emulate that? And in many cases, it's the investors going, why don't you just copy what the competition is doing? Right. It's investors in a lot of cases going, you guys, what are you going to start doing what these guys are doing over here? Clearly it works for them. Right. It doesn't matter who's doing anything or what they're doing or who you hired. Shotgang 86 in the chat reminds us of the perfect engineers conundrum, which is the phrase nine pregnant women can make a baby in one month. Like that's how these people fucking think. So it's just, yeah, like you're talking and I mean, I don't know what the fucking the through line, the plot line of this fucking podcast, it feels like over years now has been that the people making these decisions, the brain rot that comes from the greed that makes no fucking sense. Every time you get someone like this, who's in a position that can come and describe it behind the scenes or whatever, you're only going to find out 10 years later, six years later about these insane decisions, but they're as bad, if not worse than you imagine them to be. No matter how hyperbolic you get, it always appears to be like even worse than that. You know, and there's a businessman's sociopathy like side that's gone on in in fucking society where, oh, dude, hold on. Let me get there where the rich people are portrayed as heartless, logical automatons and they go, I don't care what we have to do. The line's got to go up and they're looking at spreadsheets and they're figuring out costs and they're doing all this shit and like they don't live in the real world, but the rest of us, they're only looking at a spreadsheet. And what most people have to realize is they're not looking at the spreadsheet at all. They're just going off of vibes. It's based off of nothing. So we sit talking about video games almost in an insular way where you kind of sometimes think it's its own separate space separate from the rest of what's happening in the market, quote unquote. The same, you know, remember, remember the same shot calls all the time wrong all the time, but we have some hits. You remember the same dudes who were giving out sub crime subprime mortgages that faced zero consequences. Except for that one. Yeah. Right. You remember, remember those people from rich people. Okay. Remember how mother fuckers were suing United Health Care for not denying enough claims? I do remember that. Right. In the wake of like, like literally it was you're not denying enough claims from people. Right. Remember how in the fucking Epstein files, he sent Peter Teal an email that was saying zero percent interest rates are too high. Do you remember that? I didn't know that. I don't even know what that means. Epstein says to Peter Teal in the emails, paying them if they were to be given zero percent interest rates, that's too high. Can you give what you should be paying us to exist and to make money? Oh, yeah. It's interest should be reversed. Right. Remember these people? Remember this thought? These are the same people making decisions in the industry. They're the same people sitting in these suites, making every one of these video game fucking decisions, dude. You have a strange. Why the fuck for a second would you think they weren't? You know what the funnest thing about Kaplan's quote from the CFO is? Hmm. He goes out of his way to not name this person, but says it's the CFO of Blizzard in 2020. And then goes, thankfully, they're no longer there. And it's this very strange thing of like, I just don't want to say they're name. I'll just include the position. Yeah. It's super weird. Also, I'll give I'll give Jeff Kaplan some up some upies because they announced Legend of California and then he streamed it for 10 hours. Oh, wow. Okay. And it's super early. It's super early. And I'm like, that's pretty fucking ballsy. Okay. And then the second thing he said was, uh, I don't know, I don't know. If you're complaining about games that you don't play, shut up, shut the fuck up. No one cares. It's it's interesting that it took this long to hear that from not Nintendo. Do you remember Super Paper Mario? In which do you go on message boards online and complain about games you don't play? Oh, fuck. I mean. Now, listen, we are currently speaking into microphones recorded on the Castle Super Beast podcast. That's true. We are. It's that is true. I have I have at times complained about games I haven't played on this podcast. An opinion may have been shared about a game that you do have not played. It's possible. Perhaps more than once. I would never I would never slander you to hold you to that. But I think it might be possible. I think it's a likely reality. Um, what I will say is, uh, is that I definitely I mean, you've described you. I believe you said you're like, woolly. The thing is, is that you're not a natural born hater. And you're not. You're not a natural born hater. And and but there's there's times where you're like, ooh, that ooh, that heroin, you know, ooh, that's a little tingle in my arm. That's ooh, hey, how about that? Right. But realistically, I know that, um, shit, that means nothing to me. I don't I'm not hating on shit. That means nothing to me because I'm not even bringing it up. Right. Most of the time I feel like when opinions are had, it's often for something where I care about the thing. If it's a studio that I buy games from and they're going downhill. Or if it's a horrible trend in an industry that I care about that I spend money in, I'm going to have opinions on that thing. Right. And I think that like there's, you know, I'm sure he's talking about like he's announcing his new game and the specifics of you're working on overwatch. It's the it's the fucking dead center middle of the bullseye target. But, um, I think that the the opinions you can have about the things you do care about are extraordinarily valid. And if you are somebody who knows and or cares about that thing and therefore represents the consumer base that they're probably trying to appeal to, what you're saying about that thing is extraordinarily valid and underlined and makes a ton of sense, you know. So if you're if you're talking about it and it's like completely out of your range, wheelhouse and interest, that's a separate thing from something that is within your wheelhouse of interest. And maybe you have and you if you have not played it or so you're talking about it, it's coming from a place of I care about what this overall through line is, be it a trend or a studio or whatever the case. Does that make sense? OK. So, you know, I think I think that that's an important distinction that is not maybe what he was getting at in that quote. But I read it and I was like, OK, true asterisk. No, what he's what he's talking about is what I look at a fucking a Res evil nine video on Tick Tock and I click comments because I want to see what people thought about it. And the top comment is Red Dead Redemption two is more realistic. Sure. OK. Sure. He's talking about the full on full on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and there is there is nothing in life. I mean, I mean, admittedly, I just like I can't think of times where maybe having a having a microphone in front of me puts gets my opinion out there often enough that I just I just don't leave comments really anywhere on things that I'm going through a medium watching. Oh, that's my most I was talking to my chat about that for a really long period. And I was talking about the self selection process of personalities that leave comments. Hmm. But like what I'm getting at here is if I feel like indifference towards something like you couldn't pay me to drop a comment on that because it's it. I mean, I picked the wrong idiom. Sure. I'm just saying that like it's so nothing to me. I don't engage. I don't engage. I barely I barely engage with things that are relevant to me at times, you know. So that's it. That that's that's where I'm at. Is that like you can be very, very much somebody who is not playing the thing, but care a lot about what thing is pointing at, where thing represents, what thing is where things going, etc., etc. Anyways. Beyond that, there was a trailer for the Sekiro anime. Sure. Saw some screenshots initially and had a very bright style that was like does I was confused by but seeing it in motion. It looks fantastic. I think it looks cool. I like I like what it looks like in motion. The screenshots were not conveying it as well. But like what they're going for is not dark. It's just it's it's a bright kind of not pastelli, but there's a quality to it that is very unique, I would say. And it also feels like just watching the characters and trailer and everything going on, I'm like, oh, I pop this right on after watching Ninja Scroll back in the day as a kid, like it feels like the kind of story that'll lend itself strongly to just a tight short story with some some cool fights. And there's enough dialogue in it compared to there's enough there's enough guiding of the plot compared to the average from soft story that they have more beats to go off of. Right. So yeah, I'm super interested to see how they're going to do an anime based off of a game in which the main character doesn't talk and nothing happens. I mean, like it's it's it's very it's very weird of a pick. There's I mean, the other there's the kid and the the owl and there's a bunch of other characters that are going to do all the talking, you know, but he's around there and and he had they have conversations. I can't he's not a silent protagonist. No, he does talk. He does talk. But the game has more of a linear story than the other from soft games do, for sure. But there's enough it's there's enough to go off of that. I think this anime can work. It makes sense to make an anime out of the fucking Elgin ring manga. Full gags and all full. Yeah, absolutely. Hell yeah. Expensive expensive gag anime. Yeah, no. There's there's you hear him in the trailer, you know, going back and forth and stuff. So it looks cool. And then in other adaptations, there's some extended cast info about the Mario Galaxy movie, including Louise Guzman as Wart. Good. Issa Ray as Honey Queen and Yoshi is Donald Glover. Is Yoshi going to do a rap? Well, I mean, listen, much like knuckles, Yoshi now has the pass. So. Who knows? He might sing. He might start acting. Yoshi might start doing stand up comedy. Yeah, he's he's multifaceted. Stay woke. Yoshi's creeping. Shag has gone find you. Catch you sleeping. Have you do you have the Krafton shit on the docket? By the way. So if you remember the Krafton, so Krafton had their kerfuffle with Subnautica, where they thought that Subnautica two was going to have one one hundred ninety one million sales, whatever. But they owed them two hundred fifty million for the bonus. So I typed into chat, G.P.T. Hey, how do I get out of paying this two hundred fifty million bonus? Because that will make me look like a bitch ass pushover. So they've been going at it in court. Oh, my God. The judge was like, hey, you have to rehire the CEO that you fired. The guy you fired. We can actually see when you like decided to fire him to fuck up this deal and then started going back through employee information to try and find something to fire him with and then you found it and then you fired him for some bullshit, but like we can see the timeline of events. That's a no no. Well, that to do. Surely this will lead to a very awkward standup meeting. And the the the crux of it is that Subnautica, two's devs, whose names I can't remember are like, you know, the game's good to go. It's good to go, which the unknown world and is like, no, it's not good to go. That's why we had to delay it and the bonus and all this shit and all this nonsense back and forth like the game exists in an early access state right now, but has yet to hit because of the stupid fucking lawsuit. And even then they have to hit certain sales targets to get the bonus. So the whole reason the guy's afraid is he's afraid they're going to hit the targets to get the bonus, but not make anything more than that. So fucking stupid. You must rehire someone is kind of fucking crazy work though. Crazy. Because like now you work under hostile terms. It's like what what is that working professional relationship look like? It sucks. You know, how about this? Are you still or someone while you're actively suing each other still? You know, are you writing emails going? Can you can we double back on that? Thanks. You know, like the court says you must get back together with your ex-girlfriend. What the like? Absolutely mandatory. Oh, man. You must find a better reason for breaking up or else. And, you know, I mean, nine times like in most cases, you imagine someone wants to work somewhere that's enjoyable and professionally fulfilling and hopefully, you know, like the vibes are good enough that you can see a future, you know, that you you you built, you know, or you look to go elsewhere. So like a fucking gunpoint, I'm taking my job back. And now we have to I don't know. I just how long can you stay there and what how far can you push it? You know, I don't know. That's crazy. So some malicious compliance incoming. Oh, well, I need to take a break. I just realized this guy is two hours late for his food. Be sorry, buddy. I'm so sorry. All right. Oh, I don't have any video from you, by the way. What the OK. You're just a one. Well, we are well, we're live. What is happening? OK, I did that. That was me. Can you still not see me? No, I can't see you. Huh. What about now? No. All right. Hold on. You're just your own logo. Oh, boy. OK. Did it. How about there you are? I found you. Great. Wonderful. I found you. Two buzzer beaters. Oh, fuck it. Are you serious? Literally, as you're on break, two things here. One, apparently there's a Firefly animated series and the return to the cast is coming back. It's called fucking L.L. Star. Well, that happened first in the timeline, actually. So technically, L.L. Star is the beginning and then came part two. Interesting. I'm curious to see what's up with that. Man, this took way too long. This fucking war. I liked Firefly when I watched it and I enjoyed, you know, the movie and stuff. And a lot of time and life has happened since back then. Things have happened since then. But yeah, Joss, we're just not involved as well. Why not? Apparently, people didn't enjoy working with him. Oh, is he busy? I don't think he is. I just sounds like he he treated people kind of shitty and they don't want to work with him anymore. So what? But yeah, I'm you know, it's been a while and I'm curious to see. From Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the finance here. Yeah. What? And this joke is good every time. It's awesome. I love it. That said, I liked Firefly and I'm like, oh, shit, more is that let's see what what's going on there. Animated is a format I wouldn't have expected. I would because they want to keep it going right after. But everybody's old now. It's been a while. It's been a while. But yeah, cool. Let's see what's up, man. I'm seeing some it doesn't hold up well. And I'm like, I haven't revisited. I don't know. There's like a couple parts of it that just hold up like dog turd. I've got positive memories in the brain. And I'm curious to see how this is going to work. And if it if it follows through on, you know, yeah, I mean, hey, if if it doesn't hold up well, like, maybe this new thing can, you know, like, I don't know. But yeah, cool. And I guess the other thing in terms of shit that ain't coming back. So D slugs is a fucking awesome artist, really fucking amazing, dude. That's done a bunch of cool shit for fighting game art and everything. I kind of marked out when I saw him at a convention. And he's also the person who has been literally all the art on the back of my laptop, like it's all just this is all D slugs. All of it. Amazing. So he makes amazing fucking cool shit. He was working on a alien versus predator game beat him up game pitch that was apparently going for some time. And it never got greenlit. However, the art from it is fucking dope as hell. Here's a thread. And you go check it out. And it's kind of like, OK, his style applied to the old beat him up idea. And they don't have the Capcom license necessarily. But what you can see on this character select screen is old man Dutch. Nauru from prey. And we can't get Lynn Kurosawa. So how about Ripley? A security waiver. Just Ripley right there. And then the three and then the three playable predators as well of different styles and, oh, god damn it. We don't live in a world where this is getting. Yeah, that's not going to get. But fuck me, man. And like his style in particular is perfect for capturing kind of the old arcade game art style as well. He still wants it to happen. And if anyone can fucking do it, I mean, again, his his art's incredible. But. The the that trio of playable characters like Dutch, Nauru and Ripley is come on, man, even if it's just an arcade game random thing to happen, like the predator license and the alien license has gone out to dumber shit, you know, please, guys, please. Every time I feel like one of these posts goes up, it's almost like a flare for like fan attention to be like, hey, maybe we can pressure it into happening through everyone marking the fuck out. You know what, you could also pressure everybody in happening. Well, you know, you know what screams confidence when we put something out and everyone's like this sucks. And then you come out the next day going, no, you guys are wrong about how it sucks. I have some quotes from Jensen Huang about DLSS five from a couple hours ago. Oh my god, we are dude. The Poochie made in heaven cast just continues. OK, as we're live going. OK, what's going on? Also, who is that? Jensen Huang is the CEO of Nvidia. OK, the man with the leather jacket. Gotcha. What did he say? Well, first of all, gamers are completely wrong. These are slightly paraphrased quotes for clarity. Huang said in response to a question from Tom's hardware editor chief. The reason for that is because as I have explained very carefully, DLSS five fuses controllability of the geometry and textures and everything about the game with generative AI. He, oh, the Belbers can still fine tune the gen AI. Oh, the thing they said it wasn't is it actually is. Hold on. This is where he gets offended. It's not post processing, a.k.a. a filter, it's not post processing at the frame level. It's generative control at the geometry level. Also said the developers can try the tool and see if they want to use it, suggesting it's up to a developer to make a tune shader or see if the game should be made of glass. Quote, all of that is in the control, direct control of the game developer. This is very different than gen AI. It's content control, gen AI. That's why we call neural rendering. See, it's not the thing. It's the thing I said before in earlier in the same interview where I said that it was, it's not that it's that with the new word. Hi there, Willie Castle Super Beast podcast. How are you? Are you full of shit? Yes. Oh, OK, cool. Just checking. Thank you. Gamers completely wrong. Um, customers, you're all wrong. It's actually awesome. Well, I'll tell you what, it is awesome because I am looking forward to playing Cult of the Lamb with this new DLSS filter on. And I don't know if you've seen what Cult of the Lamb looks like with the filter on. But don't put it in the newspaper that I got mad. OK, can you know? Oh. Oh. You put it in the newspaper. I'm not mad, though. You know, the funny part is that like Path B is Nvidia can just completely give up on doing anything video game related and just like fuck out of here. They're on their way. They can just take the money and fuck off like it's the bubble will eventually burst. And when it does, they need to have a business that still exists. But you see if you again, again, business now is Konami's non-Pachinko divisions that right, right, right. But but but this bag, I'm currently holding it. What do you suggest I do with it? I don't know. I just it's so heavy. My arms are getting tired. I genuinely my arms are getting tired. I can't even imagine CEO of the most valuable company in the world going on and interview a day later going, no, it's everybody's wrong. It's great. Like. To be fair, you got me. You got me. You're right. To be fair, I feel like most of the flak that Nvidia has gotten has been post market shit and not directly at them over the years. Right. It has been in the distribution and the fucking scalping process and the insanity of the prices and the fucking again, the the market going towards farms. Don't get. It has never been this direct and lightning targeted specifically on a feature that represents everything we fucking hate right now in this moment. It is the most zeitgeist lightning feature you could have dropped that everyone hates. But you're glazing it up to be a prediction for this is where games are going. Inevitably, you know, I don't get about this arguing about this is how it works. This is no, it's this is like in a month or two, maybe longer. People are going to start working with this at the technical level. It places that aren't in video. And someone, even like a like a glaze post, is going to describe how it actually fucking works. And it'll not. It's be a fucking filter. It's like, yeah, no. Well, going off the comment, they dropped in the video earlier. It's probably going to be like there's going to be an artist on a team that's going to be like, OK, so can we take the feature and make it not apply to the faces, but have it apply to other stuff? And then they're going to get into a fight with the, you know, the higher ups that are going to be like, no, this feature needs to run this way. And it's like, OK, so can we just run it on everything below the neck? Or, you know, you're going to get into these weird, like what will be OK? And what will not be OK to apply it to and how that's going to look? Well, or or or you just go the Skyrim wrote of what you were talking about and just be like, do whatever you want. We don't care. It's all getting dropped on top of it. And he even keep his language consistent because he says that it's up to developers to try and make something like a tune shader. It's like, you mean like a fucking filter? Because it's a fucking filter. I don't want like this. Remember, well, you remember when we used to go in and have remember the discussions about how like amazing the artwork in Castlevania was that Kojima would do the other Kojima and how I found out relatively recently that they're actually all big paintings. They're glorious paintings. One of the best wall scrolls I ever got was from the PS2 game. Super nice. They're amazing and how much the translation into 3D. It's like, ah, they didn't capture the same energy of that. But how could you? It's an amazing painting. And we're so far beyond the pale at this point of like how much of that model captures the original concept art and we're just full on like fuck the concept art and artists and everyone at all entirely. Your protagonist can be a blank faced fucking low poly insert and you can just run this over it. And to say in to be to claim that, hey, no, it's not Jenna. It's not Jenna. It's not a filter, etc. And then come out and clarify this after the fact. I'm like, you're this is getting forced. You're not going to have the ability to like it doesn't matter that you could that they're saying developers are going to have the option to do or to be used this as much as they want to or whatever the case is because we know that people making decisions are going to force them to use it and it's going to be part of the product and it's going to be a sticker on the back of the box. And it's going to be included with each each hardware is I think major bullet point list of shit that's going to be remasters are going to be the poster childs for this new tech. Because I think Bethesda games would actually benefit massively from it because their characters always look like shit. Now, here's the real question, of course, is when this gets running beyond the echo chamber, whatever the the incident, whatever the when you take the part where we're here, we think this sucks. A lot of people that we talk to thinks it sucks. Most of our audience thinks that shit sucks. You go online. I'm seeing Susie going what the fuck. I'm seeing Max going what the fuck. I'm seeing just about everybody. Universal from the content creator space and people that are paying attention to the industry in general that give a shit about the art of whatever the thing is or like this is doctrine, right? OK, so where does that fade out? How quickly will that fade off into? Yeah, we don't care, right? Ball and gun, whatever, etc. And how and will the money will the profitability line like elapsed? You know, like when the sand runs out and you start hitting water, you know what I mean, does the money so you jumped? You've jumped to the horse changing midstream on the river, which is no consoles going to run this shit. Well, run it. It's too intensive, requires two 40 50 90s. Let's say they cut that fucking computational need in half. It requires 150 90, but that's on top of path tracing, which no console. Like this shit, this shit is high in the sky nonsense for insane PC people and insane PC people are fucking crazy about their hardware. And and want like they don't even like a fucking frame generation because it's not real frames. But what I mentioned earlier is it's not about the ability to have an actual Nvidia 50 90 running this shit. I think it also is emblematic of this is what Microsoft is going to try to emulate. This is now streaming. Yes, this is now what you're going to see as a for it. We like because because you and I had about Stadia are the same. It is. It doesn't change. It doesn't change. Nothing changes, right? But but I just mean to say that like with this reveal, intent has been placed on the board and anyone that is trying to again compete to keep up with this bubble to keep it to keep inflating it, etc. Are going to go. We have to lean our games, our products, our hardware into this or emulating this tech. And if you're not actually doing DLSS five, but you can do a simple, stupid porn, AI filter on your shit and pitch that instead as a more affordable way to go, I don't think it's going to it's going to hit because it has to be adopted and has to work on hardware that people have. It's like this field, this whole thing feels like shareholder slop. And someone just said GTA six with this shit. Oh, GTA six is only the the the the the the people over at Rockstar actually did an interview today talking about how if GTA six in which they are very anti AI, if any part of them leans towards any of this, that's a tectonic plate fucking shifting on the ground underneath us. No question that is the market right there. Motherfuckers are diving off the bridge to do everything they can, hoping that GTA six sets all the trends. I have to say, I am actually kind of glad that we've we've moved from a world in which everyone's like we have to be just like GTA six to a world in which it's we have to get away from you to get away, get the fuck away from it. I think it's genuinely a much smarter way. And it's funny because like we see everybody trying to copy everybody everywhere except for Grand Theft Auto. Everyone's like, fuck it. No, they have that get away from it. Yeah. No, I just every single one of these stories, every time we talk about something like this, one of these subjects. Yeah, I need to just go, OK, what about people who are not online? What about people who are like, like at what point does the integrity argument slash any of the shit we're saying eventually hit a. You can lie and make and get money. Yeah, but what about what about guys who don't know shit? Ball and Gun gamers, right? Right. And what you're describing is a technical argument for why it won't even get to that. Sure. Ball and Gun gamers buy their ball and gun game every year and none of no discussion matters at all because that's the game that they buy to play their ball and or gun game, whereas and that represents an enormous proportion of yearly sales. But those ball and gun games are already picked. Like Fortnite, adding AI or removing AI or whatever the fuck doesn't matter because it's Fortnite and it's for the fortnight. It's the fucking game now. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. And as we just established with Overwatch, like the expectation that you of the profitability you're hitting, it's like you need to you need to hit this every year. We know we expect ball and gun money to be this high. And how do we get to this? It's like Gatch is doing well. You know what Gatch is super vulnerable to this nonsense, but they'll do anything. And then you have like the growth, the fucking the trends are for games like fucking Mugenics and Slay the Spire, which do crazy fucking numbers and look like a fucking toddler to them. It doesn't matter because they're fucking cheap. Yeah. You know, like I was talking to Paige about this or going somewhere. And I was just like, it's so fucking frustrating. Almost every discussion we have about video games to some degree is always ignoring the elephant in the room, which is they're too fucking expensive. I mean, I'm watching. I'm watching like guys who in the restaurant business talking about how the restaurant industry is in trouble. You want to get fucking hazarded? Guess why the red just restaurant industries in trouble? Because it's not fucking cheap enough because food's too expensive. Like fucking fucking so stupid. The whole fucking thing is so stupid. Tap the sign, tap the sign, shorter games, worst graphics, etc. Hey, hey, you know what? We're going to fucking AI slot filter your shit all over the place. The game is going to cost half as much. That's an argument to be made. But no, it's not. Instead, it's we're going to AI slot filter this shit all over the place. By the way, we've made PC parts cost 600 percent more because fuck you. Oh, no, the energy, the energy is being displaced from the the the people, the cost, etc. of the man hours into the fucking render farm. Yeah, you want to fucking feed me? Slop. OK, I'll pay slop prices. Oh, no, I'm paying fucking top shelf for fuck you. Anyways, shout outs to Atlas for raising salaries and reducing fixed overtime. Nice. Based on crunch it going on. That's fucking quote from a water is so perfect all the time where he's like, you know, if profits are down, you might be tempted to cut staff. But I don't think people who are afraid of being laid off will have the energy and like inspiration to make, you know, world class software. Yeah. People who are people who are doing just enough to not get fired. Don't do great work. What about employees who are reinstated at gunpoint? Dude, this makes me so interested in Subnautica, too, man. Oh, all right. Even though that game makes me vomit. Oh, the movement. No, Subnautica one was a game I played on a on a goof. And I had such an intense panic attack that it's why I came up with the mind Goblin series. Do you have a phallophobia? A little, but it was also the infinite expanse of like nonlinear resources. OK, that I was like, but what do I do? No, what do I do next? No, but what would do on the ocean? Like it was very intense. What if your decision is wrong? Yeah. Yeah. You could do anything. Oh, I'm going to vomit. Uh, emails. Hey, if you want to send in an email, send it to Castle Superbeast Mail, gmail.com. That's Castle Superbeast Mail at gmail.com. Dear Sigma, Willie and Epsilon Pat. I write to you a question because I'm not sure whether it's right or what the response is at my work, one of the men's bathroom stalls is fucked up. The door is misaligned and in order to properly lock it, you got to lift the door a bit. Customers don't know that. So anytime I'm on a bathroom break, a customer will always pick that stall. Instead of giving up after a few tries, I hear banging and slamming like they're trying to fight the thing. Do I tell them about how the door works despite their rage or do I just wait and see how it plays out? Because nine times out of 10, they'll wrestle with the door for a minute and then either give up or just hold the door closed. At what point would you just admit defeat and try another stall? Um, I OK, so there's two questions here. One is, should I help them? No, fuck them. No, this is really funny. This is insane. This is this is so insane. I don't go ahead to if I'm going to shit in a public restroom. It's where we're past the point of dignity. I'll just if the door doesn't close, I'll just shit open. OK, I need to take a dump in a public restroom. It's over for me. OK, I mean, you've got your own criteria, but I think it's specific. It's called a piece of fucking paper with words on it. No, just put a sign on the door. Holy shit, this is not a difficult thing that. Well, you have just outed yourself as having never worked in a store. Do you think customers read sign? Oh, no, I get that part. But if you're at the point of fighting with the door at that point, no, no, OK, well, never. Well, like I understand your desire to roll your eyes and think this is never. I have never in my life seen a customer read a sign. OK, even if it would prevent their injury. Well, I mean, I get if it's if actually calling someone in to fix the door is completely out of the question and like leave them in there trapped. If the world will end before we fix that door. No, no, enjoy their struggle. OK, I say put a fucking thing on the on the door to the bathroom or the door to the stall, whatever, pick one. I mean, shit, I've seen. Well, you're talking. So once a customer enters a store, they turn into the customer. Right. You're talking about people. Who would walk into the back of the store while you're taking a shit in the break room bathroom and start banging on the door and trying to open it. Oh, yeah. When you open it. Yeah, they're shocked and embarrassed that there was someone in there. Yeah. No, again, I've seen I've seen signs in in situ. I've seen I've walked into a bathroom, bathrooms with signs that were like, OK, don't don't squat on top of the toilet and use it or whatever and things like. I know that there is a large, vast you are not going to communicate anything to anybody by doing this, but I imagine there is a trimming off of the of the numbers for the few that do, right? There might be zero customers will read the sign. I can't even I can't even get across to you how it's like actually no one. Literally no one, not a single soul. Yeah, it defies me. I remember mopping a floor and setting up three. It was like a little intersection. Three signs, yellow paint, like walk around the sign to get in. Like five people fell. To put yellow paint on the bathroom door. Could be mopping a floor and they would have to walk around you and fall on the floor that you're actively mopping that they had to go around you. It's it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And I will say again, the more you've got to go the worse your decision making slash, you know, you see a sign that says bathrooms closed and then you hate it because you're like, I maybe it's not, you know, or whatever the case. But I don't think anything tops like in in in a standard public bathroom, somebody trying the door after you say, hey, I'm in here. And they continue to try the door. Yeah, yeah. And like their their their brain isn't the front part of their brain isn't activating, it's all gorilla. It's it's it's so bad guy trying to get into the fucking toilet. I mean, I can imagine it being like at normal circumstances, it's already brutal and then you're adding like bathroom urge, go, you know, to the to the situation. So OK, and that guy wants to sit on your lap and shit between your legs. Think about toilet. Think about wife. Toilet fight back. Toilet dead. Miss toilet. And let's take one over here. From not the emperor's finest says, Deer, shake and bake. Yeah, a few weeks ago, a co-worker lost her mom at my office. Everyone wrote a card and their condolences and passed it through each station, reaching me in the middle of my workflow. I'm already a poor writer when it comes to random birthday cards, let alone having words of comfort for those undergoing heavy turmoil. To add to this, I listen to audio books, usually warhammer related, as I work to keep me focused with these factors in play. I decided to trust my gut and let my heart do the talking. It wrote, the emperor protects. What are your fumbles that keep you up at night? When I don't mean to cast too broad a paint with too broad a brush. But when you when you started this email from not the emperor's finest and then they described a scenario at work, I'm going to be like this motherfucking warhammer dork is going to do weird shit. I just fucking know it. So I just know it. P.S. The lady doesn't speak English and doesn't care much what was written. It was the rest of my team that got mad at me. OK, well, dodged half a bullet there. That's a red check right there. That's a red. Oh, that is a disco. That is a click and fame. Like, yeah. Like, there's a version of this where it's like maybe if you and the person had some sort of warhammer rapport. And even then, it would not be appropriate, but it would be. It wouldn't be a one on the d 20. Right. I'm sorry. My brain is failing me. What was the turmoil this person was going through? What? No, they said that they are not good at having words of comfort for people under going turmoil. Yeah. So what's what's the what's the parent died, the mother her mother died? Fuck off. The emperor protects. Sidebar. She just written happy birthday. Smiley face. Sidebar. Not fully caught up on my warhammer lore. That's like indoctrination speak that's meant to be taken ironically, right? Because the emperor of mankind is not actually protecting shit. No, the emperor of mankind is actively protecting shit constantly. Oh, really? OK. So, you know, he's his ghost is doing all sorts of crazy psychic show all the time. Is a force for good that would be that's that part. That's that's sorry. That's what I'm kind of I never heard anyone describing the emperor of mankind as a force for good because I didn't think there was a force for good. Anywhere in this world. So the idea. Higher. OK. So I guess what I'm saying is like evoking this idea in this context. Is this even contextually correct? Given that the emperor is not somebody or that force is not devil. Protect you kind of like thing. It's weird. It's it's not it's not good to say it is a force and it protects a particular faction here. Yeah, it's this. But is that the right sentiment to go for from this setting? It's not even good in that. No, that's that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to say. Right. It's not saying it's not the same as may the force be with you. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's not. It's it's shit. It's it's bad. It's bad in its own context. It's it's is it not more akin to Hurrah. It's not. I'm doing my part. I don't I don't know. Like. It's like make King Charles bless you. Like, yeah. I was like, yeah. You know, you don't do you want it? No, it's Zeke's Eon. Yeah. Yeah. OK, got it. Because I just I'm just it's it's like let's look past the, you know, just take that energy, hold on to it and and and compress it. But I'm like, even within the context of quoting Orhammer, is this not the wrong energy to be using in this moment? You know. Damn. That's rough, buddy. Which would have been a better quote to drop if the person was maybe into avatar that you could write on the condolences card. It's you could have you could have gone for that's rough, buddy. Yeah, no, this is a this is a this is a botch all the way around. It's not good. And that's the energy I like to end a podcast on.