#650 - Jake Paul

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Just a reminder that tickets for bus boys, the movie with myself and David Spade are on sale right now. Pre-sale tickets, you can get them. It's in theaters April 17th. But if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're going to sell them or that they are selling and then we can expand to more theaters. So if you know when you're going to go and you can support, that would be great. And no pressure if you can't. Again, the pre-sale tickets are available, busboysmovie.com. I'm excited. Thank you. Today's guest is a Renaissance man. He's a content creator, an entrepreneur. He's a professional boxer and he has political aspirations possibly. We'll find out. This is my first time getting to sit down with him and really have a talk. So I'm grateful for that. Today's guest is the problem child, Jake Paul. It's pro-creating name for everybody. Can you believe that anybody make a kid? That's wild. I think it's a massive problem. Just like anyone could have a kid. It is crazy, bro. Like when I look at people, I'm like, yo, what the fuck is this guy doing? He's got a fucking kid. He's going to raise this kid. The kid's going to be worse. Like, well, we'll talk about Logan after a while, dude, but I'm talking about just in general. I'm just joking, Logan. I'm talking just about in general, dude. Yeah, the fact that they don't put birth control in the suboxone, first of all, or something like methadone with birth control, you think they're just, and if you don't finish school, you shouldn't get more than one kid. I don't think. There should be like a certificate that you got to fill out some paperwork for to get a kid, bro, to be honest. You got to pass IQ test, honestly, or some shit like that. Even a low IQ test would feel bad. These people, and by the way, it's like the movie Idiocracy, which by the way, it's like fully coming to life. Yeah. You mean the historical drama Idiocracy? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I agree. It was like a, it used to be a comedy movie, but now it's like, it's art now. Yeah. It's like, oh my god, we're here. Yeah. Like, and by the way, Brondo, like the electrolyte drink in it is like prime. Bring it up. It has electrolytes. Bring up Brondo. That's weird. Bring up a clip from that. Yeah. Bron, look at the president with the machine gun. This looks fucking good. The Brondo's not working. Now, I'm no botanist, but I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow. Well, I've never seen no plants grow out of no toilet. That's good. Yeah, this is where we are. Yeah, that's a prime business meeting right there. Or that's no, I'm joking. But that, yeah, it's where we are. And by the way, we're Celsius partners. Yeah. We love Celsius. Are you Celsius partner? Yeah. Yeah. Me and you both. I'll have a little, I gave a little of my buddies cat the other day. Yeah. How did it do? He likes kind of the chocola flavor. He didn't have a lot. Did it like do something cooler? I mean, we haven't seen him. So this cat is really, it's a wild cat. He's a BLM activist. That cat was living fit, bro. Like he just disappeared. He hit a gym like 30 miles away. He turned into a fucking iron marathoner. Dude, he's dating a dog now. He's fucking, he's crushing it, dude. Yeah, it's changing. It's changing the animal sex order, dude. Dude, good to see you. Dude, I saw this picture of you the other day. See if you can pull this out. There was a picture of a pet that we saved. He was picking up pets that one of them looked like you. And tell me if you think it's fair or not. And this is, I'm not, that's pretty good. That one? Yeah. I would say that's a, that's a, that's a great compliment. Yeah, that's, I thought it was gonna be much worse. I thought you were gonna show like a fucking lemur or something. Something on his last leg or something. I was like, I'm honored that this is, he thought of me, bro. Because every time I look at you, I just see Joe dirt. So it's just like the soil's rich. Yeah, dude. I do feel like Joe dirt. Me and Spade have a movie that we made that's coming out. I'm so excited for it. Bus boys. Yeah, bus boys. So we made it ourselves and everything. So that's exciting. Was that hard, by the way, to make it harder to like self fund and stuff like that? To make the movie? Like what part of making it? Getting it done or getting it in theaters or getting it? All, yeah, theaters, I think. Yeah, all of it. Getting it theaters, I think people were, some people called and were like, dude, how'd you guys get it into theaters? You know? And so that part, I think was kind of tough. The tough part toward us, all the spaces you have to stay involved with, you think like, oh, somebody else does that. And you're like, Oh no, there's no, there's nobody else. And so it just falls back on you. I'm sure it's, yeah, are you nervous? Like for the outcome? Because I think, you know, like you just see a lot of movies with the biggest names these days, with super big budgets and the, you know, all the people behind them. And then it flops. Like, are you nervous about that? Yeah, because it's public. Like even I've had a couple of fights where it's like the pay per views weren't as good, but it's private info. Yeah, I think there's a part of me like, I like to be like kind of in control of what I do, right? And so that's why I was waiting to do something where it's like, we wrote it, we made it's our own thing. So at least in the end, I do feel like we did a good job. And I got to do it with somebody really like, who's amazing and like, established in that universe. Yeah, I think it is scary because you don't want it to affect the how people think about you or feel about you. They may just not be like, I care about seeing a movie this weekend. And it's almost to the weekend. Like nobody buys a ticket for a movie three weeks in advance. I thought we'd put it out and be like, Oh, it'll all sell out like a like you like maybe with a comedy show. But with a movie, it's like you kind of have to wait till that weekend. It's probably similar with like a pay per view. No, 100%. And we actually like base our fights around making sure there's no other big events. Like the last fight on Netflix, like third, third biggest fight ever with Joshua, 35 million viewers live. But it was the same weekend as Avatar, the same day. So it plays into it like would we have gotten a 5 million more viewers? It's just something interesting to think about. But sometimes you can't choose another date. So Yeah, we just yeah, I think I'm definitely a little bit spooked about it. I'm a little I'm nervous, but I'm also kind of excited about it. And if I think if it doesn't go great, it's okay. It's like, you know, I hope it does. Because we want to be able to make more stuff and help other people make more stuff that don't get like, like there's no studio attest to it. It's like, nobody told us anything we could put in or out of the script. So it's all our own thing. So so it's not woke. Yeah, it's not woke, dude. We got an eight year old saying it in it, you know. And I don't, you know, bro, and he didn't mean it. Yeah. And by the way, you paid him to say it. So you're you're invoking abuse. Yeah. Theo. But we paid him handsomely, you know, Hey, we didn't talk to him. Honestly, though, honestly, like, he better than the half of them. My problem with people saying the word fact. Yeah, is that like, I would never say it. Like so fucked up to say fact. Oh yeah, I don't say it. So, but yeah, let's uh, what else is going on? What don't you say? I don't say it. I'll say it. I will say it very fast because some people are wondering what I don't say. And I'm not going to be, and you won't even know when I'm going to say it. So that was it. And I didn't even say it. So and who knows, I might be a homosexual when I get older after I get married and lead my wife. So and that's why you're fucking smart because you're hedging like you're saving, you're an investor, you're a forward thinker. Yeah, you're literally a Renaissance man. Because at least you can fucking admit that you might be a f*** later in life. Whoa, bro. I'm not going to be some crazy I will be just a guy who is doing his best, who fucking is pissed off at one of his friends, and lets him fucking jerk him off one time. I'm not going to be some guy who's holding hands and going to like a market or something. So anyway, now that our careers are both over. Now we still got Celsius. They'll never leave us. Oh dude, two sips of this, you'll come on your buddy's back. Did you see that? Did you see that Drusky skit? What do you think? You know what's so funny is that I wanted to talk about this with you. Really? Yeah. I mean this s*** is crazy. When she starts doing that. Oh my god. What are your thoughts? I thought it's so bizarre. It's one of his more bizarre videos. I mean it's hilarious dude. She's in this space. I wish she had gone a little more into like the stuff with the husband and what could have happened, but I don't think black people like mess with people's families and s*** that much. They don't go into that kind of area very much. Yeah. I mean Drusky's just, you never know what he's going to do, bro. And this sets that precedent like nothing else. I mean look at this, bro. This could be f***ing you were Logan in 40 years, dude. You know what I'm saying? And not in a bad way dude. Y'all look good. Yeah, no, honestly. Dude, this is Hulk Hogan's whole family in one picture, dude. This is Hulk Hogan. Yeah, no, honestly it's f***ing hilarious. I loved it. And I'm obviously Republican and like all the Republicans being mad about this s*** is like a f***ing L for Republicans because this is f***ing hilarious. And even though it's f***ing dark and twisted and it's not maybe the, this is what comedy f***ing is. Yes. I agree. We are f***ing humans. Let's make fun of ourselves and there's truth in this. Yes. And extreme truth and people weren't ready for that but I think it's f***ing hilarious. And I want to ask you something because I've been over the last couple of days calling makeup artists and I was going to do a response to this and like go and do like the fool on darker. Yeah. And do it and just do it back because why not? Yeah. Like are we on the same plane field? Like I think if you, if there's a way to do it, oh this thing in in well this even the sentence, but if there's a way to do it, I've been here many times, if there's a way to do it, I think yeah. I think there needs to be some black support for the character I think. Like I'm saying like say if Druski or I'm trying to think of somebody else. Charles Barclay. Charles Barclay. If you got one of those guys to be like, hey, do you want you to do this skit with me? Let's do this. But still that's that's pussy now. You think it is? Yeah. To me, there's a level of like doesn't that make us more like prejudice? Oh, like more prejudice? That makes us, if we have to partner with someone, Druski just dropped this and he's done it a couple of times. Exactly. I fucking love it. This is great. This is how humans should be. I agree. We should fucking make fun of each other. And I don't see in color I see in truth and comedy. So like, what are we talking about? So you're saying that what era are we living in? You know, Justin Trudeau didn't he's he's fricking dating Katy Perry. You see that Justin Trudeau the mayor of Canada. I was with them. I was just with them. No, you were not. Yeah, the JP Morgan summit. He was be facing looking at him right there in the middle. Look at the one in the middle. He got caught for this before. Yeah, look how dark he went. I mean, he went but but to be fair, that picture is in black and white. So we can't tell how dark you went. But that's fair. That's kind of fair. What about Jimmy Kimmel when he was blacking around over there? Bring that up, huh? Hey, hey, look at him just blacking. I mean, look at that even the cross eyes. That's Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. That's not Shaq. That ain't fucking Shaq, dude. That looks healthier than Shaq. There's no way that's Jimmy Kimmel. Oh, God. Bro, Shaq is selling everything now. And look, bro. And look, by the way, that is Jimmy Kimmel. Look at fucking Jimmy Kimmel. Fucking on the left, untouchable. Yeah. What the fuck, bro? Yeah. How can they get away with this shit? The shit that pisses me off. It's like, like kids can't be black for Halloween, dude. You know, like a kid, it's his favorite athlete. He never grew up with anything racist and it's hard or anything. Yeah. And he wants to he wants to be LeBron. Yeah. And the Halloween. This kid is just like fucking getting penetrated by haters. That's the problem. There's too many haters out there. But look, Druski is doing this shit. Craziest when he did was the one where he spit on a black guy out of a car dressed as a white guy. You see that one? Bring up that country. I didn't see that one. He drives up. But bro, honestly, bro, no, I know more. This is insane. No more honesty from you, dude. No, I got a lot more. Oh, hold on. There's another look at this part right here. Yeah. After this, bro, how many right here? Watch this. You lost more? No, it goes to the race. What race? NASCAR race. You going to NASCAR? He ain't lost, is he? What the fuck is going? Sure about that? Okay, so this brings up the actual point of like, it's time. This is what we need to do. You know what time it is. You know what time it is. What time is it? 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I think it's a good discussion, and I'm glad that you brought it up, because sometimes, yeah, it's like I don't even have anybody that's even semi-bullying. You're like the kind of the blackest guy we've had in here in a while. People tell me that a lot. You're blacker than Logan. That guy is white. Yeah. I mean, he's basically Hulk Hogan. Oh, dude, he is probably. I went to Hulk Hogan's funeral, which is pretty crazy. But anyway, did you, uh, oh, dude, at his funeral, nobody knew Jim McMahon was there. And, uh, who's Jim McMahon? Vince McMahon? Vince McMahon. Jim McMahon showed me his asshole one night. He used to play for the Bears. He showed me his asshole one night at a, uh, yeah, yeah. And shout out Jim. He showed me his asshole, and I didn't even ask about it. And he's. So, how did he show you his asshole? It was outdoors. He was reenacting something, and, uh, and he showed me his asshole, but he's awesome. Honestly, the, the, the more people I meet in life and like he showed me his Richard Dent, you know, that's just an old Bears player who played at the same time. And that's just such a crazy statement. Okay, go on. The more people. No, yeah. The more, the more people I meet, the more weird, like I think that, yeah, like people are fucking weird, bro. Yeah. And they want to show asshole. People do. Like, bro. It's the 11th thing. So this is the problem is like, I was raised right in a sense, but like, what? Bro, I'm saying, I'm saying like, the, the richer you get, the less, um, normal experiences become for you. So you have to do something different to feel something. And I don't fall under that category, but a lot of these people do. Oh, you seem like you're trying to like take yourself out of the files right now or something. But dude, you gotta run into some wild shit. I'm just saying caught me. You fucking caught me, bro. You're good. You're good. You're good. He's a mall that I think it makes you smarter. Fuck, bro. You caught that's my new character. It's a black detective. He figures it out. Yeah. Encyclopedia brown is fucked. You're fucking genius, bro. No, you caught me, bro. Dude, you and I should not be declaring anybody a genius. We are fucking wrong. Now you're just saying something wrong. You're just saying something. Hey, bring up that fish that's in a wheelchair. Have you seen that? Bring up that wheelchair fist. Somebody build up. Bro, if you don't think you're a genius, then you should like have some self reflection. Do you actually not think you're a genius? No, not at all. That's a big problem for yourself. Look at this. Look at this, bitch. They got, you don't think anything's possible, dude? Look at this bitch. You trying to fight that thing next? Look at that motherfucker. This is a perfect opponent for me. Wheelchair and two IQ is who I'm looking to fight. You can tell it's a one fight deal with UFC, but you gotta fucking, we'll get them out. We'll face. But this is what we're fucking living in, dude. People can't eat and we're fucking building fish wheelchairs, bro. So anyway, and that's also, I'm not gonna lie though. Like, you know what the fish's name is, dude? Joe Biden. That's the craziest part. That makes sense. Why is it a fucking wheelchair? This is comedy gold. Like, it's comedy gold fish, dude. We're fucked. We're fucked, dude. This is horrible. All we've done is lobby for fucking blackface. This whole pod and nothing else, dude. But we're going to keep it moving, man. Do you think, um, okay, let's start over. Okay. Do you think Erica Kirk had anything to do with the husband's death? Let's switch it up. Let's switch it up. And that's mouthwash, you know, but yeah, keep having some. Do you think? I love Listerine, bro. It's a fucking good stuff. That's a new Listerine Green Apple. Bro, you're funny. I don't know if you can ask that question. You're pretty funny. Okay. I don't know. I'll talk about a lot of things, but I don't think I'll talk about Charlie Kirk and his assassination. Okay. The sensitive details around it. Oh, dude, I don't even want to fucking talk about it. This is on our list of stuff. So I'll keep it moving. Some AI, you chat GBT, what the ass, Jake Paul. It told you this. It was like, we'll go most viral. It said things, a fuck at handle. And yeah, one of them was FrizzGolf. One of them was, oh, the Tiger Woods DUI. That was kind of crazy. Let's talk, let's, let's, let's brush on that because people deal with addiction. People deal with that stuff. It's something I've dealt with. That was kind of a surprise to me. I was kind of surprised to see that. Have you ever played golf with Tiger? No, I don't, no, I don't play golf. I mean, bro, like it's a second time thing for him, right? But it's been like a decade since the last time. So it just seems like maybe he was going through a tough patch. Yeah, it's tough, bro. It's tough. Did you ever struggle with anything like that? Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like, especially when I was younger, there was a phase where I was just like going through a really rough time in a lot of ways in life. Suicidal lost a lot of money and had terrible people around me. And so that was a, that was a time that you were what, were drinking or was like a thing, because I've been in, you know, like I've been in sobriety, in and out of sobriety over the past like 10 years. It's a fucking tough road, you know, and you try your best. I've been in like shit for like sex, love addiction, intimacy disorder, all of that shit, you know, I should probably be in like a fucking wheelchair or whatever, you know? And that's real talk, man. Praise God. No, but see how you're healing with it, and you're sitting here today doing great things in life, and people love you and I love you, and you're a genius and you're an amazing guy, and you just like worked through it, but you're like honestly healing with it. It goes back to like comedy. Yeah. That's why you're funny as fuck. And you're making fun of yourself, and it makes it acceptable to your traumatized version of yourself. So yeah, but I've been in dark places as a kid. Like it's the funny like Disney star, crash out, bankrupt, money, money, money, bad people around you, drugs, alcohol, party, LA, girls, girls, girls. Yeah. And it just like, it's like a fucking cycle out there. So my biggest advice to people is don't fucking live in LA and like go into that ecosystem. Because I'm a product of it, but it's not me. I had to heal from it, and like, but it just was going to happen that way. So no matter who goes out there, no matter who they are, it's not their fault, but like they become looped into that system and will end up unhappy and most likely addicted to a bunch of shit. And yeah, it's a sad thing chasing validation. I met this person at this party. I want to be famous. I met this guy, I took a photo with them. It's just like a fucking dead end. So yeah, I think that energy overall in society is starting to change a little bit. I think we're starting to realize that there's not like all this like collection of moments and even items and even finances while we're here. There's not a really the depth of value to it isn't it's a kiddie pool, you know. So, so yes, I was at the summit this past weekend in Montana, and I was taking a piss next to Jeff Bezos. And my dad always said to me like, since I was a kid, famous people put their pants on the same way. One leg at a time. Yeah. And so I realized like, bro, he's, I love him by the way. Really? He's a neat guy. I can't even imagine what his voice sounds like. He's just fucking, he's awesome, bro. He like shaped the world and he's going to continue to do that. But I just realized when we were peeing next to each other, like, bro, we're just peeing next to each other. Just my fucking, just my homie essentially. But you fucking piss pot number, oh yeah. We're just like, Jeffrey, Jeffrey Bezos. I was going to start singing it out loud, but I didn't have the confidence. I was about to start singing his song. And then I texted my friends like, yeah, I just pissed next to Jeffrey and they were like, did you grab his dick? Like, it's just all this typical friendship. It's just all a joke. Did you fucking same day deliver that cock? How prime was it? Like, bro, like at the end of the day, was it Logan or was it KSI? That's just a further on the prime joke. But I got it. Thanks, dude. But I remember one time I pissed next to fucking kid rock, dude. And I was like, fuck, I thought I'd made it, dude. That's what I mean. But it's also funny to like these people like that are so in the media and I like find myself in this in this category. Often like people think they know me, they have so many ideas about who I am or what I am. But like, bro, at the end of the day, we're all fucking humans and like seeing these people like eat, like even just seeing Jeff Bezos eat was just like funny. It's like, yeah, okay. Yeah. Or watching him whisper to somebody. Yeah, exactly. Like he has to whisper, he has to eat. Bro, he's just one of us. Yeah, he's just a guy's guy. Yeah. But it's interesting. Does he seem like a guy's guy kind of for sure. Yeah, he seems super cool. Somebody said he seems kind of Asian. One of my buddies met him a couple times. They said he seems kind of Asian. Did he seem like that to you? At all? Not fully or not? Yeah. Yeah. So I couldn't tell when he was peeing like how tight he had to grip it. Oh, yeah. If you had a headlamp on. So yeah. That's crazy, bro. I don't know. That's the only way I could tell if he was Asian. Is he tall? He's like, he's like five, eight, five, nine. Okay. So he's probably a well-fraud. Also his wife like I think has a weird like public persona. And their whole relationship, bro, it just goes back to fucking media, but she was awesome and smart and nice and very intelligent. And I don't know, just weird how the media paints everyone. And it's actually sad because I even had a preconceived notion of these people because it's just like indoctrination. And you see enough things where you just like start to conform to that idea. But then you could just be so wrong. Yeah. Oh, I think that that happens a lot. You know, it's easy to get addicted to that too. One of the things that I think is most important right now is the value of our own attention. What do we put our attention on? You know, because it's easy to sit there and just absorb all the bullshit and be like, here's a picture of Lauren Bezos or Jeff Bezos. And, you know, there's just an article and there's no even repercussions or anything more. It's like, she just got her tits done. He just got his head done or whatever. And you're just like, okay. But you don't say, but most people just, we believe it. It's like, I've found myself believing stuff. And it's like, this is you know, I'm sure you've read things about yourself that are astronomically outrageous. No, 100%. This is, I think the word you said that is key is like repercussions. Like there needs to be some form of punishment for invalid commentary on anything. Yeah. And this is why I started suing people because have you had a lot of NIL type like that sort of issues? Or just people saying stuff? People mostly like rigged fights and steroids and fake fights and like this type of thing. It's like, bro, do I look like I'm on steroids? Like, no, I'm a chubby kid. Like, do you know how legal it is within all of these commissions to rig fights? Like you guys are actually fucking stupid. But I can't say that to them. And then even when I'm like sitting here now, defending myself, it feels like they're going to look at it and be like, of course he would say that. Right. So I'm just suing people because that's when the truth comes out is like, let's go to court. Yeah, let's actually look at the documents and see if my fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it. And I know I'll come out on top because they're not. And so yeah, and this is I'm going to go delete an old tweet as well as you're saying this. But oh yeah, you did say that thing. I was like, you first. I was mad at you. But I was mad at you for saying that. Yeah, I can't remember if I did say it though. Because I think yeah, I think it's exactly what you're saying. It was like, well, let me think about it. I don't know exactly what I said, but it was something like, yeah, I don't or yeah, some actually remember this. It was a jab like that. Yeah, you did. It was a verbal jab like that. You said that. I'm sorry, man. Don't sue me also, please. I will take it down. But like, um, but what it's fine by the way, it's fine. It's fine. But why? Like what was the because I look at it to be honest as another male who's insecure about me being successful, trying to take me down. Hmm. Let me think about that for just a second. Let me really think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Why would I say it was probably it was like, it felt like probably a bandwagony type of thing, you know, I'm not using that as an excuse. I'm just saying that was probably part of it. Let me think. Oh yeah, it's easy for me now in hindsight. Yeah, it's easy for me to like, just say something from here where I'm sitting here. I don't have to say it to his face. I don't have to be around him and say it because I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't do that unless I felt like it was a joking environment that was like safe. Um, yeah. So those are probably the things to be honest with you. And, and, um, and I think it would take us longer for me to sit here and, or, you know, it took me longer to really probably sit and like kind of think out what all the small parts were, but those honestly are the things that I'm thinking of off the back. Yep. No, and then, uh, like appreciate your honesty and candidness around that. Like, and it's, it is annoying for me because I fucking work my ass off in the gym, like all the fucking time. I think, I mean, you came, I mean, you're like, there was a, there was a time where it was like, yeah, this, this guy isn't a real fighter. These are things that people would say. And then there's no, there's no person now, like you disproved, but, but that's the thing is I could handle the not a real fighter because I'm like, fuck you. Haha. Right. I could handle the, um, like most of the things that people said, but then when I got so good that people couldn't believe what I was doing, that it turned to fake fight steroids. That really bothered me, to be honest. Um, I don't know why, like it just like seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove it all. Um, so it was so far from truth. And I think that's why I'm blessed by God and like such a, uh, pivotal person in today's society is because I live by truth. And I think that when you do that, God continues to bless you. And I think the, the fake fights thing like is so far from the truth that it really bothered me. Yeah. I could see that. I could see that it would. Well, yeah, man, I'm sorry if I could be able to that. Bro, it's fine. It's fine. No problem. But I'm glad that we're talking about this because I do think that it's interesting. I think that, um, yeah, I think there's something like, uh, yeah, why, like, yeah, why does that kind of like, why do we, or why have I acted? Why do we act? Like, why is, you know, sometimes it's in just, it's getting involved in the conversation. But yeah, to think that there's not like, um, real repercussions or real like just things that happen, feelings that happen. Do you, I think sometimes people, you guys are such good promoters over the years, right? And you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in, uh, entertainment and society. Like there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment. It may be longer. I don't know. I'm not sure how old you are. It's, yeah, it's been like 13 years. Yeah. I mean, to keep that and have a level that is like one of the highest levels in different mediums. And then also I think people don't know, like, um, I don't know if people don't know, but it's tough to get people to reframe you into something that's different. I'm not using those as excuses. I'm just saying that there could be some of that in there, bro. I'm not going to lie. Like if I might have a little, if I, um, like saw me as another like young and up and coming male, I would like have jealousy of myself and be like, fuck this guy. He's got a jet and a gold medal, fiance and the perfect life in 6,000 acre ranch. I would have jealousy. It's human nature. Right. So I like get it. Like it just is what it is. I just think there could be some of that in there. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's like, um, it's weird and also like, does it help keep going? No. Is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder? Because I got an, I'm not, I don't know what I'm motivated by anymore, to be honest. Yeah. What's interesting. I feel that sometimes I think it's, I think it goes back to like helping others and like community. I'm a, I'm a big fan of Marcus Aurelius and I mean, the biggest thing he just says is like your duty to society is the most important thing. And so I think that's where I've landed recently because I have like everything and like you have enough for yourself. You mean you have what you need. Yeah. And, and, and my family and all of that. So like I, I just go back to like the leader of the Roman empire should probably listen to what he had to say. And one of his biggest sayings is I should, you know, your biggest thing is to be a part of society and make it a better place. So I think that's, that's maybe where I'm at these days. One thing that really kind of like touched me was the way your reaction and involvement with your fiance at the Olympics. I thought that was really cool, man. I think there was something like just as a guy like a lot of guys, I think don't probably do a lot of supporting of their girlfriends or spouses in certain ways. And I thought something like that was really beautiful to see. I think we have, do you have anything of it? His wife won a gold. And they're cruising out there. Are they cruising? Bro, they're cooking. This is awesome, bro. How are you feeling? What was bro? So, yeah, so like honestly, yeah, it's the greatest moment I've ever witnessed as a human. Just like everything that happened and the way it played out was just nuts. And I know how hard she works and like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's putting so much detail into her work. And the girl right before her, like two races before, set, sorry, set the Olympic record. So we were all like looking at each other like, oh my god, that was a fast time. She might not win right now. Like what the fuck? And then she just fucking calms out and sets the new Olympic record and fucking wins. And I could tell that she was going to win like before everyone else because I like see her times. And so that's why I was like already crying. And I was like, I don't cry. There was some more build up to it. It wasn't like just that exact moment. You could feel it coming on. Yeah, no, I could, you could see the speed and the times on the, on the, you know, digital board. So I knew maybe before anyone else and bro, like I'm the one that has to like deal with her stress and problems and thoughts around the whole sport on a daily basis. So I knew how much it meant to her. And yeah, it was just like witnessing fucking greatness at the highest level in the coolest thing representing her country, the Dutch people were all there screaming like all of it was just beautiful. The Dutch are fucking aerodynamic, dude. I've always said that. They're very aerodynamic. You've been, you've been long on, on the Dutch. They're tall and they're a lot of them are very aerodynamic. Pull up a Dutch, man. Bro, no, my pull up a Dutch. Honestly, you're just very aerodynamic. I'm not gonna look at this. Hold on. That's just a random Dutch. Zoom in on that guy on the right. Fucking Mr. Dutch right there. And fucking his little Dutch dime right there, boy. Donka Shane homie. Donka Shane, that guy will fucking take on a wind right there. That dude will take on a fucking ahead wind in a heartbeat. You'll be back to Puerto Rico 10 minutes sooner. If that guy was fucking attached to the front of your bird, that's for sure. I think there was something. It was, it was, that was just right. Bro, they have known that since I was young. My mother told me that the Dutch were aerodynamic. Dynamic. She said it. What else did your mom teach you? What did she tell me? I don't know. She was always working. She would fucking drive by and yell at us. She'd go, bro, it's your day. She'd fucking be zooming by in her car and fucking yelling, dude. Bro, it's your fucking day. So we're just in the yard. We're like, we're not even inside right now. But she tried to parent the best she could. You know, she was just always like delivering stuff. No, I thought it was awesome too that you're like working on your foundation. What is it with Kat Williams or? Oh yeah. Yeah. 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He's just joking Travis, sorry. Yeah I like being around Vance. He's been on here a couple times. Do you think he's trying to position himself to be that next dog or what do you think? I think yeah of course like that's the nature of the game. And yeah like he's uh yeah if you're gonna, if you're the vice president you're already playing the game. That's a dangerous game. So like it is and and I like dabble in it which it's it's scary because I don't want to get fucking popped but like and and beyond that like there's so many things behind the scenes brands people won't even associate with you because of your political stance. So it's a really interesting game to like play in but he's already bowled deep so yeah I think he's gonna jockey for president for sure. It's gonna be scary when you're that deep in. Yeah it makes it easier when you have like 15 securities around you and people have to get wanted just to talk to you but like yeah it's still weird it's still weird bro like it's the weirdest thing in the world. Do you have you had to play? You're playing the biggest game of life. That's fucking true dude. And it's gotten dangerous. Yeah and do you want to play that and like can you? It's just really interesting like is there room for you in that space? I saw something recently with you in Trump where you guys were like kind of flirting or whatever just palling around or whatever. Yeah we were flirting. He's cute. No I saw a thing where you guys and he was giving you a lot of credit. Yeah I was nervous like I was sweating hell and fuck. Yeah it's gotta be a moment like that where you're like okay this is kind of wild. No yeah at that point like life didn't make sense. I had to like call my dad for him to ground me a little bit but even he was like bro what the fuck this is the coolest thing in the world. Yeah I've been like flirting with the idea of politics just because I think it goes back to Marcus Aurelius of like helping society and like what that's the number one thing you can do and it's become a joke like my business partner Jeff Wu. We have a venture capital fund together. Bring up Jeff bring up Wu. And let's get a gander at him. Yeah yeah okay there he is. There he is. Gee woo. Gee woo'n it. So six years ago he was like you're gonna become the president. No way he said that. Yeah and then it became less and less of a joke and then I started to realize like oh my god. If I'm the best person to do it and can actually win then like I might need to do it. I'm already playing the biggest games of life so we'll dabble in that if it makes sense. And if there's like a Kamala running on the Democratic Party like fucking dumb ass running and opposing I will enter the game and risk getting assassinated but I don't want to. So and what would you wear like a you couldn't wear like a helmet or something you'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably. You'd have to how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run you literally had to like almost like I wonder if people running in the future like live stream from a bunker or do you know what I'm saying do their things from like a protected space because it's going to get dangerous out there. Yeah no you're a thousand percent right like they actually probably will. Like I yeah like I'm even scared just talking about this shit. Yeah but I think we're getting to a place where I could see something like that happening I could see you running I could see something like that I could see like it does take something inside of people I feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose and a calling to something and if they can make sure that that's not just attached to their own ego and they can make sure that there is a sense of like I can do something better and I'm willing to put myself out there to do that. Yes and sign up for the hardest job in the world. Yeah we're you're fucking 14 hours a day just cranking it I seen Trump his energy is why he's there like he's a fucking legend in that in that sense and it demands so much of you and will take away not only your life but everyone that you're affiliated with so you're also like signing your kids up for it so like I really don't want to do it but like it's become like a funny joke that I would and then randomly Trump endorses me fully which someone texted me they said like you'd have to pay him a billion dollars to get that endorsement and you got it for free right there yeah hold it up let me see that little endorsement this is pretty good. God is with us I know he wants us on the right side of history and everyone here has to do their part and God's got us Trump's got us God bless love you Kentucky. He did a good job there man that's a fucking tough environment to be in that kind of space I mean it would it be something like you would run with advantage I mean do you think it's something like that or would you start as mayor of like like northern Puerto Rico or something or do you is there any talks or what is the concept I guess sorry yeah so you're actually are like super perceptive because yeah that was my plan was to start in northern Puerto Rico in PR dude which just got defunded to put it back on the map I uh I don't know I honestly don't know but it's just something like it's like a poor it's like kind of like a light in the distance right now yeah and it just seems like we need heroes out there yeah and and like Charlie would have been the guy yeah so um it's fucking sad bro he's fucking awesome did you spend time with him no no just followed all of his stuff yeah but like you know what he was like aiming for it though that I think that's the problem is like I'm just a fucking kid from Ohio that's a high school dropout like if it makes sense at some point then it makes sense and that that was like his job and his purpose and all of that yeah um and I loved that but like it you know it if someone was like this was like me becoming a world champion in boxing like it makes more sense than Jake Paul becoming president Charlie Kirk was clearly going to be the the next president so I think that's part of the whole thing that right the whole energy that's out there yeah yeah yeah that's a good point that somebody did they they there was probably people that didn't want to see that possibly occur they didn't want to see that get to the next level or yeah there's a lot of uh investigatory stuff about that you know some people say that it was like a microphone on his lapel that blew up and that that's what killed him um and then that microphone was made here in Tennessee and then two weeks after that the factory was made at Blutus Mithereens and like 16 people died which is just a kind of a crazy like that's one of the wildest kind of like that's one of the most interesting theories that I've heard yeah there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days and I was just with some like bros in Minnesota and they were kind of asking me about these conspiracy theories because they were like oh he knows more than than I do um I think that a lot of it is fucking bullshit and people just want something to like hang on to um I I don't disagree on like certain points but you have to be really smart and selective to decipher the conspiracy theories that are out there and like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth but why as a society like do we hang on to these so much like conspiracy theories yeah because it's like well we love drama as humans basically like we just love fucking bad news and we love to like we have a coming yes this is the fucking problem it is a problem and so conspiracy theories give people a reason to fucking gossip and like just it's just like something to do bro people are bored well like I've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck about any of this shit because they're just have better shit to do that that's the problem is like people need to go get a job and have a purpose and um we're at a point though I think where people can't trust mainstream media they don't trust it it's it's it's heavily owned by a couple of corporations and so I think that created a lot of this space for um like just outlier investigators outlier people asking questions when every you know there's that famous thing to he this this is the problem is all of it has become an entertainment product it's all the wwe I've been saying exactly everything is the wwe so so this person who's claiming to tell the truth starts to dabble in like a little bit of like fun fun fun because it's gonna get more views I mean it goes back to um a lot of these people and you understand that I mean you guys have done this is why I understand it got it awesome it's because I do this but but the difference is I'm not doing it on things that like affect the world and I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking Israel and Charlie Kirk I'm I'm like talking shit to kind of McGregor right so I'm down to like entertain when it's in the entertainment world got it when it's in politics like people shouldn't fuck around and so like who is telling the truth these days yeah and I wish you think with all this technology or something there would be able to be like a truth filter you could put over something on your phone but then I guess it would be like the who what is the arbiter of the truth like it's like a lot of these like um AI models now it's like they have information that's put into them so they're only going to spit out whatever is whatever you know like the could the information is controlled so you're only going to get answers that are based on it um one thing you said that I did want to say that I thought was interesting was during the Roman Empire a lot of the um the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield so that was one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times where it's like if they were going to make choices that affected the lives of the of like the citizens of the military of like the farmer who is putting down his pitchfork and picking up a sword like they had to be out there as leaders as well um and I think that's where some of your energy comes from and so I think I I admire that I think it's I think it's dope and I agree like if I ever was running for office I would also be like super down to have an AR-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers out of a fucking gun and a shield yeah bro like who has that I'm down to die bro I think I put that on the line with Anthony Joshua like I'm down for this shit bro but like you're I think you're right that's a really good point actually like Trump should be on the front lines or baron I don't know if he's old enough yet he might be too tall to be out there too bro's a big target he's gonna stand out bro and he's good looking and so like he's they're gonna be like oh yeah that guy yeah get him I if if this is a funny question if um if aliens came to earth what human would you want them to meet only could meet one human what's human oh I think I don't know if you send like a brother over there probably NBA young boy maybe do nothing because I think that would should be yeah well have you seen the uh that who's that guy you know what I was thinking this and welcome to America's last brain cell for Amitya Vaughn and this is Jake Paul oh dude what about your freaking mom was trying to freaking holler at me is that true what was happening yeah I thought she was married she is they're in a great relationship I love um I love my mom and and step dad um oh damn am I only gonna get in trouble is this bad and Derek is that your step dad Rick Derek David David I was wondering the other day I was like what is his step dad's name um okay so this I mean philosophically what philosophically if a woman is in a relationship for 30 years with a normal guy for sure and then the fucking mohawk comes out with the Ovan she might start flirting bro when you see the Lord's parakeet exactly my point now you gotta fucking and my mom is a fuck is the goat she's a life maxer so she's gonna life max and um she's pulling up picture oh yeah that's who it's here's right there that's Pam I am boy bro Pam I am would you have done it though we and by done what do you mean take her out for ice cream or a film yes are you talking about like what are you talking about I would have taken her for ice cream out of heterone merly and that's why I approve of your guys good answer political answer I'd be a good step dad though dude bro if you are my step dad I'd be so happy bro that's all I need in life honestly I would let y'all smoke not in the house or something but I would let y'all smoke which kind of smoke huh you can smoke dope smoke it outside I don't give a shit as long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window we think we're trying to rest my mom's hot huh I think she's a beautiful lady I like her as hot I don't know I have to see her again in person she did this list for you bro oh my god she did I think I have some photos of that dude your dad was right there I was like what are we doing here you know that's my no they're they're divorced that was the that was that yeah that's not her husband that was there oh that was my dad and mom but they're divorced okay got it yeah yeah but I don't know I think he was like you know you know I'll tell you what not to do you know I think he said some stuff like that to me so I think there was like a mix of like energy there but yeah I know and she's an author I admire that I know she just came out with a book right yeah fuck the Paul Lee there fuck the Paul's fuck the Paul's yeah great book by the way for um fuck the Paul's I would say like mostly um if people have an interest in like fame and navigating it I think it's a good book what effect do you think she had over the years on like did she kind of was she ever like an orchestrator of things or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the distance like oh because it's interesting how a mom reacts to like I think their son's journey through uh popularity and like because that for a while they're just their son and then they're kind of like a pseudo sibling or something to everybody um in a way you know yeah I um definitely like supporting from afar um but but like more recently she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and being like fuck you to these certain people in my life that aren't good so she's become a more of a protector I think at first I was me and my brother were like teaching her um and she's very smart lady but I think it was such a new world for her of social media and so I think uh she she always was giving her 100% best effort to help in any way possible and that came across in different ways but I think more recently she's she's become um more of a protector and more opinionated and she knows she has more confidence in her opinions and I think that's been good for both Logan and I do you think that you guys's careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom that you are really that makes you like have even some more unique thoughts about her does that make any sense no 100% um yeah admire her more or yeah that's what it was is is admiring her more because like I was built for this and destined for it and you don't know if your parents are always on that same wavelength and I think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't even get along or talk or are involved like I see a lot of that and it turns out that she was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire which is gangster and I was like that's my fucking mom and that's my freaking wife yes sorry no that's my first date I dude I'm just saying take us to an award show um but yeah I would take her somewhere nice I yeah what restaurant are you think or oh I know where I would take her a place that has a golf course but we don't play golf we're just gonna go eat there nice watch the rich people come in oh there's Tom you know he's saying shit like that Leonard oh yes he has an institutional financial estate yeah there he is right there Leonard yeah he has a tramp stamp on his back too don't tell anybody he got kind of crazy one month in the fucking Hamptons oh fucking Leonard's crazy yeah and I would just let her drink wine and I wouldn't drink any but I would smell her breath every now and then they get hit of it you know just to get the fucking grapes in my nose boy how much would you like huff it oh I take a good whiff dude I would reverse boof it I would put a strong mouth it just sucked up like a wine smoke out of her fucking throat this is getting bad dear god I just ordered a fucking what am I some kind of fucking smut bro I need another whiskey blue raspberry can one of you fucking get it for me yeah go get him one dude what the fuck refrigerator so yeah so in the ice in the fridge so so oh um but no uh no I think it's I've gotten to know her a little bit of the issues by seeing her here and there and I think her I think her energy and I think it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a different way and I think that's what happened yeah and I think that that's it's almost like a beautiful thing in a way you almost get to see just to see somebody grow into something different at some point in their life is really special whether that's and it can be in any way but I think so so yeah I could really imagine that that's nice no exactly and and like a lot I've noticed a lot of people don't change or don't know how to and evolve and they just like get stuck in their same patterns and especially when they're older because if you've been doing something for 40 or 50 years you're gonna like get stuck in that rut and so to like see her change and actually be able to like evolve is beautiful and I noticed it with my dad as well he's a little bit more behind but he's doing it and he's doing the work and that's beautiful that's awesome man I think it's cool like whenever like as a child you get to be a part of something like that and see that and like I think there's a lot of like kind of like growth and moments there for ourselves and our parents you know uh yeah being a son is an interesting responsibility when you realize that it's um not just like one of taking in a way and I don't mean that it just because that's how it is when you think it's just like this one way sort of thing um it is like you're you're like until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents it really is a one way relationship and yeah the first one one way relationship in your life do you do you have do you have kids or like what's going on no no wife I don't have any kids I'm not dating right now I'm just working on myself and uh so it's been like the last year's been kind of tough with just like um just staying on track and then I realized I was just kind of putting myself like in this situation like just things that uh I wasn't like they weren't like all like rungs on the ladder towards my goal you know someone were fun rungs and things like that but it just wasn't where I needed to be and like some of the sobriety's been a little bit tough over the past year so um but right now I'm doing better than I've done in a long time and uh and so yeah I feel good about that um I need to it is I need to go especially for you in like your position and all of those things like people it's hard to find the right person that doesn't have the wrong intentions yeah I feel like I'm a decent judge of that kind of stuff I think um I'm enjoying kind of not having to date and do things like that the problem is is you can't judge it until it's like time because people are good actors these days hmm so how did you know your girl was the right one for you I think um was like an experience y'all had together or like a thing being at just being at the same level like in terms of wealth or fame or stature because then you know there's like not games so yeah you might have to like find a famous girl I don't know I don't know but they also could like understand like yeah I think what right like like you you go do like a waitress girl today and you're like Theo's like oh I uh had a podcast with Jake Paul and we talked about blackface and it was fucking insane and it's gonna break the internet and let's see what happens and then she's just like yeah I'm a waitress like do you want a shot like she's not gonna understand and the importance of that or you or like what you did I think yeah there could be some that but if she goes well I know what you're gonna have the black and salmon if she said that as a joke then I would know okay maybe this bitch is okay she has at least as a sense of humor so a sense of humor is big for me I do think like yeah there's some things it's like um you also don't want to add discomfort to someone's life I don't want to add like if some of my like bullshit are the little things that I'm involved in I don't want to that to mess up somebody's life if you know like um but that's that that that's also why the like famous girl would be good because I gotta be she's already like balls deep I gotta meet one then I will one of these days when I get back out there um I saw that you when you did you and your father do ayahuasca who did it yes yeah I've been there a few times man yeah yeah okay and thank god I mean dude I'll even fucking talk to this bitch every now and then once you tell ayahuasca dude you look at a houseplant way different you're like how are you boys this morning you know huh 10 and 2 you know bro I'm not gonna lie bro I've talked to have you talked about the dead nauseam I didn't know if you have well about what hey have you talked about this so much I didn't even know no no no I know I'm saying after doing ayahuasca I like grab steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal and be like talk to it because it's a living object people don't understand that metal is a living object so that sounds fucking insane but like it's no different than a plant yeah they're they're atoms moving around and so I I actually talk to the items in my house to like give them better energy like let me let me boost your spirits today guys I know you're a bookshelf but you don't know what you're holding on to you know what I'm saying you've got everything you've got uh the crucible right here on your back you've got all these freaking on god you've got moby digs carrying the bible the seven bibles bridges of Madison county bro my bookshelf is tired bro yeah you got done Kirk on you gotta talk to it you have no clue what you're doing I like that yeah but to boost up your fucking boys who are fucking carrying all your words around I like that boost up everything in my house bro where'd you guys to where'd you guys do it at did somebody come to you I've done it like a bunch of times okay um mostly Costa Rica ooh and did your wife go to yes wow yeah there's the video and oh yeah oh yeah dude you got the fancy when I did it right outside of a pup eyes over there off the one oh one you just did it here no off the one oh one and LA I didn't know you're a neighborhood you can't do that bro you gotta like do the shit was popping but it was good it was good it was popping okay okay what was like the biggest thing you took away from it then like oh dude I just like I remember I mean you went like a deep thing yeah I've there was a point like um I remember this feeling that I had when I was a kid that maybe if I was a like um if I was a girl that uh I would my parents would love me more that that so I was like there was like this weird like like just questioning of who I was or something um I remember that that was like a crazy thought that I had when I was a kid um I mean that that's like a comparable thing which goes back to like then that they probably probably made you feel compared or some weird shit like I don't know how to psychoanalyze all of that but but it was something yeah I just thought like maybe uh like they don't see me as I am so maybe I was just a thought that I was a kid well maybe if I was a girl they would see me it was just but that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have and it sucks yeah so things like that and you kind of process those like you you know you process for like a kid feeling those things yep um I think the biggest one for me was uh self love it was like just like putting the mirror up of like look at yourself and how come you don't love yourself sometimes and in a lot of moments I do um but I think that trickles out into a lot of other areas of life where um it can not be good um like where it turns into like like between where it turns into ego or where it turns into that kind of stuff exactly yeah it's scary yep and and just like yeah just like even insecurity is a part of self love and so I've actually like really worked on it and gotten so much better at it and I feel secure now um but I came from a place of of insecurity but it takes practice to to get there um and to find that confidence and that love and to know who you are and not give a fuck what anyone thinks because I also was like judged in public scrutiny and all of these things since I was like 19 so I think that was the biggest thing was was self love yeah dude I think it's funny we're we're talking about this the other day in a meeting and thanks for sharing that with me um we're talking about did your dad say any wild shit while he was in there was he in there fucking caffin he was bro he's like her name was Janet was he was yelling shit in there whatever bro I literally had to because that's great bro to sit there with your with a one of the people that created you and to be on that journey that seems wild to me was it like that or was it not like that and just seemed like it wasn't it wasn't I had to I realized the like sweetest thing about my father is that he's a protector and he's a fucking warrior and he was so high off of I was good that he was like trying to like figure out where his um fiance was and like protect her and he thought that like people were like trying to attack her and there was no one there and he was just like I need to get I need to protect I need to do this I need to do this so um I like installing fucking security systems literally he was he turned into fucking secret service um but there he is right there is drinking soup through his head that got fucking out of his dome bro so it's really interesting though like a spoon honky sorry that's my mom driving by to tell me to brush my teeth um so so was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that all right so um he had a stroke before this and um before ayahuasca and um I've always been into psychedelics because I'm in the sport where you get fucking hit in the head and there's science around mushrooms creating neurogenesis as as well as uh toad five five m e o d m t yeah i'm friends with brian johnson I was just he just did it yeah I I like relate to him in that sense I've done it like 10 times um and so uh I basically like told him at some point to do it as a science thing um and these things are like actual magic in the world and people don't understand their significance and how profound they are and how much healing can be done and when you talk to these people from the sanar and tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it um it cures park and sins all simers all of these things the list goes on and on and on um and it's actually like shielded from the there's a reason why it's illegal in the united states because of big pharma yeah and etc the karma sucks we can go down that rabbit hole but well there's a lot of go there's trying to pass a law right now and uh that they're allowing ibogaine in um in Tennessee and uh and they need to pass it they it's something all these all these plant medicines need to be a they need to be approved 100 now people don't need to be buying them out of a fucking like a one of those like skill crane machines or something like that at a pizza hut or whatever you know but but but but it's fucking wild that you could just go to any local place here five minutes away and get fucking double Moscow mule yeah but you can't do something that's actually good for you what does that say about our leaders about pharma about insurance all of these things so and there's there's no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like done something bad yeah but you've seen hundreds of times where the alcoholic is shooting up a place and killing people and beating his wife so like what the fuck are we doing as a society it's it's ass backwards it's sad um and i agree i mean i just yeah i think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that man because that's a big thing that's going on right now i think when is that build can you look that up for me the helping open pathways to effective treatment act hb 2075 is under consideration in the 2025 2026 legislative session the bill would not legalize abagain for general use instead it would create a state framework for FDA supervised clinical trials targeting opioid use disorder co-occurring substance disorders ptsd and related brain injury conditions funded via a public private matching grant structure i'm a proponent of that are you thousand percent amen there you heard that um i can vote let's fucking vote vote for toad you do that bro we love frogs um and toads did your relationship with your dad change after to know or was it just kind of another okay so that i mean so um there's like a really interesting thing that happened to him um when you know the like ayahuasca experts they've like seen everything and my dad had a stroke and you could viscerally see a difference in how he talked and acted he like wasn't there it was like lights on no one's home like 60% not full on but it was sad and i was like yo like talk to a bunch of people blah blah let's do ayahuasca so um he basically did it and what the shamans were saying was the and what they could feel they're experts at this shit by the way and it's not bullshit they don't give a fuck bro like they live in the middle of the fucking jungle and fucking peru there were just like i could tell his spirit was cut and his during this experience his spirit came back to him and hell yeah like since that day he's just been normal again no way yeah so no noticeably everyone notices it and everyone was worried before it like they were like yo like he's kind of i don't want to use the r word right because i would never say retort or fat but like i don't say it no me either i'll i'll slowly paint it on your wall i'll never say it but i'm not saying it but he was like low-key retort and well that's not even yeah that's fine it brought him back so yeah and imagine that dude imagine you just somebody rolls into like a learning disable class which i was in and i was in yeah i was in there for not a long time but i did a little bit of time in there and imagine somebody rolls in there one day and the next day that classroom opens up and kids can be healed i think there's a lot of healing in this stuff related psychedelic evidence right there on this is on perplexity uh dmt iowaska's key active component is under phase one trials for stroke safety and recovery potential with preclinical data indicating brain healing via neuroplasticity wow so so this is science right and there's a big problem with science and yes it's that everything is like documented experiment and like measure measure measure and there's a good side of that but bro these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have reported studies human to human they're not fucking scientists but they have the human to human conversation of like yo this actually worked right um and so that's not going to be on fucking yeah perplexity well it's not some gooner in a lab we're in fucking kids who's fucking doing all this shit you know we're talking about real yeah people that are in the woods who have been doing they know what's going on exactly it's crazy how we've gotten so far away from like all this bullshit like how we got so far away from all these like real healing methods that have been alive for thousands of years yeah and then we got into this just like bare monsanto fucking bullshit where we're all just addicted to stuff and it's ruining people's lives and then now we're getting back out of that i feel like we're getting back out of that faster than ever though do you feel that yeah i think i do i do i do and because we trusted our government we trusted that these eat that the epa and fda all these things we're taking care of us we but now it's like fuck they're making us sick there's a health care that doesn't want to take care of it's like it's it's a it's been a it's been a road yes and like the best thing is that um social media removed the barriers for information knowledge um and anyone can say whatever they want and i find that the truth is like it i don't find i know that the truth is like resonating more so people like understand more about health psychedelics yeah peptides love relationships authenticity there's a reason why like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're just like oh you're a fakers fuck we don't like you um so i think it's a good thing it's a great thing um and it almost goes back to like freedom of speech but like imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it hmm yeah i think it's like um i do i you can hope that we're in a new revolution of some sort you know that's always a nice hope to have i find um dude let's talk about some of these fights dude who had the dumbest trunks on that you thought you thought you're like this fucking i'm knocking this out just because of the trunks was there anybody who's just like i can't i'm not gonna lie bro like ben ascrin i fucking love the guy i donated to his double lung surgery but like bro he just doesn't have any steez hmm like he's the most like vanilla like dumb ass white guy who just like got told what to wear bro it's i don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo but like bro he looks like a fucking idiot he just wore kind of like um trunks from the um like you literally just like found him at a local store yeah it's he always had this there was always an energy during that where it seemed like he just kind of woken up earlier you know um and blessings tammy is doing much better now um dude so what about uh mvp you guys have hosted you guys have um promoted like 30 fights now okay you're you're teaching me this information okay thank you um how was that been as a promoter how has it been different than you thought it would be what's been like what if what is some of the energy going on with that um yeah like we came into the game and um this was like i saw boxing as like taxi and we were uber um and it was just like so obvious and we operate as like startup and me and my business partner don't need money who jeewel no this is nakisa okay sorry he's from around um jeewel jeff's gonna love this shit he's gonna watch it and be like oh fuck yeah jeewel it jeewel it yo that's good jeff i think you should change your instagram interview in it um so me and nakisa have money from other shit and don't need to do it and that's why our motto is always like fighter first and um that's that's actually like very important so when you start there where you like fight or first and operate as a startup we like instantly took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the best to work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest percentage of the fights etc um but on top of that if you like just want to talk analytics like coming into the game i have a hundred million followers or something like that wow and the second biggest promoter is danah white with like 30 so i'm like three times bigger than him is that your biggest competition then is it uh is there another boxing well i guess there's zufa there's zufa's new yeah they just started and they're already making like a lot of mistakes and are quite basic um and yeah like you don't want to pay conor ben 15 million dollars to do an easy ass fight against regis um right off rip because your whole ufc model is paying fighters like one third of that max and do you think it sets a tough precedent for them exactly they already fucked up like bad um maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us they would like have such a better outcome which i truly believe could you see a world where you're partner i'm open to it yeah yeah buy us like we'll help you guys not be idiots um you you you would the amount of money you would spend like i don't have an ego bro i'll work with anybody but dan is a very smart guy i mean he's not smart enough what makes you say that just look at what he's doing like you don't you don't not pay your fighters bro you like you don't get john jones on the white house card first of all justin gaichi is gonna lose to ilia on the white house card so you have a spanish beating a white american on the patriotic white house card like okay big mistake first of all second of all why are you not gonna pay john jones do you think it was a financial thing with him bro this is like one of the most profitable sports organizations in history their their investors have gotten greedy they're in control they um they are looking at the pnls and being like yo like we can just keep pumping this shit and they're not they're not they forgot their heart as a company that's the problem and so it's it's dying and also nma is not like uh i'm always gonna speak the truth and i'm i'm i'm partners with netflix on an mma event so well i know you guys have that you guys have that event coming up but mma hasn't stood the tests of time because the best people in the sport become wrestlers and they just like hold on what do you mean i see them punk you mean there's a lot of great fighters in the no kabeb kasma like oh they become wrestlers i see like ground game guys exactly i'd not like wwe guys which is boring no one wants to watch that there is a level of so it so it hasn't stood the test of time yeah boxing has been around since the 1500s mma is 30 years and it's declining and also because it's not ran properly and they're becoming greedy and it's like a super corporate organization where they're signed with paramount they have stockholders it's a part of the wwe aria manual public company blah blah blah so when they're paying fighters like 15 of the revenue by the way down to 10 percent uh the investors are going to be like yeah we're going to make more money is it money 10 percent money change it it's it's going down so you're just you're assuming that it is the nfl pays their athletes 50 percent of the revenue got it so if the nfl makes a billion dollars the athletes make 500 million got it in the ufc it's 150 million out of a billion but when you exclude connor mcgregor and john jones from that it becomes like five zero like five percent 50 million out of a billion because they make less you mean the overall gross is less so then the percentage is less yeah because that number factors in the superfights were um i am a ufc fan and i've just enjoyed being associated over there i have so much fun over there it's such an interesting thing i'm you know some of the business that i don't know about but i it does feel like here's what i hear people say the cards have gotten uh not as interesting right because there's more cards but you also hear people say that um like my sponsor was saying this morning he's saying dude i love that i can just turn on paramount and that the ufc is on there every week so i think there's like you know there's different avenues to go down with it and i think that sports is paramount like who has that do you have one i don't know yes exactly yes i don't know if i do that's what i'm saying yeah i might i probably do i don't i i think i think i have one but like i don't know that's what i mean so but i do like if they were like gunned ahead gonna shoot you log in probably gonna figure out the log in bro that's true so that's fucking bro that's a great game show dude yeah log in death.com all right today we're fucking something you pull him in blindfolded he's like but fucker you got 30 seconds to get in a spotify premium everyone would die he gets to call his wife you get one call but that person can't look it up yeah um you bitch i know we just thought you knew this honey damn it's stefany you're the one that what is it you're the one wizard 60 what is it you guys are co-promoting the new mma card that's on netflix yeah so that's the whole thing is like bro why are you laughing bro look at this is this is crazy though bro was there another opportunity for engano to fight someone else i mean i know that lens is kind of a new uh name to a lot of people yeah but he he's he's um uh very fucking good it's it's a more dangerous fight for him than um who do we have as the other opponent it should be engano verstam bigfoot if i could find him people would watch that shit we had a we had a i forget who the fuck it was we had a different name um who was a bigger name and easier fight for him so as frances is you know we joke around and fight blah blah marketing but like respect to him for for doing this and um it's a very challenging fight so it's gonna be fun and and deez versus perry like it just gangster gangster bro we just had uh actually nate deez on this is before we knew that you were coming on and he was on like it hasn't even come out yet but he did talk about this something um pull up the clip that he had talked about he talked about some of the fight fights between us yeah he talked about a couple of things here let me see what we got in here i'm not fighting for mvp i'm fighting for netflix and i'm fighting from real fighting incorporated which i'll probably be doing next with netflix anyway real fight entertainment on a thing and show you how to throw a real uh mma fight show i've been in the uc for 20 years now so i'm like yo i'm gonna do that from real fighting with you you know i'm not working for a fucking mvp like all these other motherfuckers are i'm a ufc fighter i'm working for me for real fighting and i'm hunting jake paul's motherfucking ass not taking a fight with a guy who's on the comeback man fuck khan will fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight but it's gonna be when we both on the uprise not not when someone's dying out a whole fighting even like paul i feel like a beatball a lot of people felt that way but it was his like big show so it's like okay all right but i know i know from experience i ain't winning no decisions even if i do so watch that fight over and don't read the punch count in your own count without somebody else's i won't not fight too what do you think there jake and that was nate um yeah no i i i never say the word i think it's like super offensive i would never say it um when when you see someone that's like it's just hard to like like comprehend what they're saying and um i'm gonna take like a business higher level i'm gonna take the high road okay because he technically is working for my company and he's trying to deny it in that um and i'll just leave it there because i don't care about that i want mma to grow but yes technically like he's he's literally lying i don't work for okay that's fine bro like whatever your ego wants i'll bend down to it for now because mma is going to prosper and you nate should just not lie um and yeah fuck like do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won oh that that's that's that's i i i don't address stupidity like that that's the most bizarre part about it but like i don't have time to address stupidity do you because then you give it more momentum um maybe i'll do it just just this one time but like the judges said i won every single round so if it was like a close fight that would be a different combo but this guy was like easy work lightest puncher i've ever fought um is that true you're just saying that on my mom's life rest in peace strike her down god nate is is the is the lightest and worst puncher i've ever fought he's the toughest and he took the most damage but in a sport that's it's not something to brag about like i'm the tough bro people people people come up to me and they're like you're so tough you took shots from joshua i was like this i don't want to be complimented like this right i don't want to be tough that means you're just getting beat up yeah yeah like the fuck that's yeah that's a good point dude i don't want to be tough bro any boxer is tough sucks no i'm joking but like my coach has told me this early on they're like this is not a tough sport this is a mental sport um do you feel like you owe nate or one of the other UFC guys an MMA bounties that does any of that weigh on you sometimes yeah yeah i i want nate and mma and i think it's a good bout yeah i think i think it's it's high on my list of priorities to do that and what's the toughest like kind of uh like barrier to entry to getting that done is it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game and some of in jujitsu no no it's just the business side got it um he probably wants a certain amount of money to take the risk in losing to me um and yeah i just don't give a fuck i have enough money i got all my shit so um that that's why these guys are actual ducks is because you can't like hide behind money anymore um so yeah i think i think it's gonna happen though and and i expect if if he beats perry then me versus nate is probably the number one thing on the list like above tomi fury above francis and ghanu above ksi do you think he could beat perry i think he will yeah i think he'll take him down and submit him what do you think that's such a dog fight dude mike perry first of all the fight they're two of like really the most beloved outlier guys that like um they're just such both unique guys and they kind of like they do things their own way i mean i'm just i'm trying to evade the question uh what's the program you have with the charity it's the program for the it's for like parents parents of autistic children giving them like a day off yeah so like that that's why this fight is awesome is like their parents are both gonna get hella days off yeah yeah i mean i don't see it but yeah um yeah so you think they're smart like you you would classify nate Diaz and and mike perry is smart i think and by the way that's secluded from autism okay like the autistic people the smartest people in the world but like i'm just obviously joking but i think they're fucking smart i think they got the toughest fucking autism that there exists yeah i wish i had that touch gloves to them you know that's how it is if they were starting a company would you invest in it that's crazy bro that's a crazy thing to act somebody and during the daytime um brish it's like six i think dude uh i would it depends on what kind of business it was i think oh yeah if it were like a dog catching business fuck yeah bro or brain rejuvenation yeah yeah yeah dude i think but yeah if it's like yeah doing taxes and shit no no no no no no it's just fine if it's just fucking if it's fucking getting your money back from somebody down the street business then take my money fellas you got it i'm in dude um there's a female file there's a we gotta get done no no no we don't we don't we do dude no bro you know how much you know how many clips we pumped out of this shit we're gonna be on twitter for like nine days straight fucking ridiculous dude god i gotta get some fucking help that's the number one thing i say to myself every day dude so i gotta get some help um rousy karana what do you feel about this bout dude karana's been out for a while yeah i think um was it tough to make that the lead bout was there a purpose in that like a reason behind it yeah we're we're like proponents for for women mostly like putting them on the forefront um and i genuinely like believe that women's boxing is so entertaining um they're shorter rounds and they just like fucking go at each other and i think they have a chip on their shoulder so it becomes more entertaining than like a 12 round floored versus del hoya where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and everyone's disappointed um so yeah that was that was part of the purpose and um and that's mvpw that was part of a group you guys launched yeah we yeah so my company's mvp uh and then and then we have mvp w which is like women's um that that side of things and were you searching for your fighters how were you gonna populate this to have good bouts like is that become a concern because a lot of people are under no no it's the opposite so so um like like we have all the best women's signed to us for boxing yeah okay i mean now mma i guess as well like starting in mma but mostly boxing that the the beautiful thing about it is that um um we can make the megafights happen because we know both sides of the party and but will you will will they be able to fight in ufc will will people under your banner be able to fight in ufc or netflix's thing if they keep this going or they know no no no um um yeah we're like uh completely sever from the ufc got it um and a competitor so so it's actually like ufc's with paramount mvp's with the netflix okay i got it now yeah dang dude that's wild bro congratulations man yeah thank you congratulations dude it's in you know like um watching you is a is an interesting sport you know and i mean that in a lot of like really so that so it like increases your heart rate to watch me problem which is okay this is sport i mean it's just like uh you know yeah like it's there's there's admiration because you you know you kind of you defy the odds are you re you you kind of like i don't know you can i don't know what it is it's interesting and it's and it's fun and it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting and is also in the business side i think there's just a lot of stuff to see you be a business guy is uh is is it's all interesting dude it's judgmental no i i would um i would agree and um i think i i i wrote like a little stupid fucking thing to put on what a poem yeah that i think can like summarize me a little bit i think it's like super fucking gay to talk about it but um you want me to read it like we might not put this part in okay but like it kind of summarizes what you're saying okay so life became unrelatable so it's easy to become hateable i live in truth so my views are undebatable life's become approvals and payables funny how i was the only one who knew i was capable now anything in life is available only because i can't became unbreakable once in a generation beyond occasional send all the pressure please god is protecting me i'm gravitational i hope you don't hate and use it as motivational but honestly this shit is not sustainable or very attainable have to manage it with ivy league occupational horrid lady over there i post more content than you but i'm still untraceable i hate to be cocky but at this point it's educational this is who the fuck i am it's not recreational you probably could but if we're being honest you are not capable so again that's why i'm hateable is he a politician investor rapper boxer it's unexplainable and that's why i'm inescapable so i think that's like what dude i fucking really like that i think and you know what yes that's what i was trying to say yeah and it is and it is man and you know this is one of a part about it is that like people are gonna like um clip that and then damn and but but that's what i'm saying it's like sad that they're gonna clip it and be like bro thought he cooked no we're not saying that you are um what's that guy's called gana or whatever we're just saying that you i that you explained exactly what i was thinking and that's yeah and i agree that's why that's why i brought it up otherwise i wouldn't have but but but the sad part is that people are gonna clip it and be like but people are also freaking touching their own dicks all the time so people are disgusting you're on your own dick jerking off is gay dude you're jerking a dude off he has you but it's still a dude bro fuck that now some chick rolls up with a cock maybe i'll help her out you feel me blm dude um so you love thailand never man i haven't even looked i haven't even gone there on like on one of those like uh map zoom in views like view street views or whatever do uh your brother just had a child do you get competitive with him like these start to think about that yet or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment because once wife got that gold bro you know i'm saying you could hatch something and sorry that's just something i read recently on a uh on a headstone in Memphis so i was just like i had something yeah once wife got that gold you could hatch something you know that's just like oh damn it just sees someone else's wife got a gold i don't be rare no i just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in or something it couldn't mean anything i read it yeah you're right um no it's inspiring yeah it's so inspiring has it been interesting to see him be a dad like it's it's he's a fucking loser now it's so funny look at him bro you go to bed at 10 p.m like he used to be cool and like kick it and like drink and smoke with us and then he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m but honestly bro i'm so happy for him like this is what's needed like he's amazing um and he's a great dad it's just like funny because and again i would never use the word the r word but like when when um he's walking down the beach with his um kid and i'm like bro this is my brother like he's fucking retarded and he's like carrying the baby down down the fucking beach and he's like got out his shoulder i'm like bro what the fuck is going on it's just it's just funny um but i'm i'm so happy for him and Esme is like the coolest thing in the world and yeah she she's like 18 months and um i like went to hang out with her the other day and like we don't see each other a lot because the world is busy logan's traveling we like whatever but um she's looking at me and i'm like saying hi to her and she goes Jake and she says my name for the first time i was like bro game over that's cool i was like i started like getting teary eyed and like it's just the craziest thing ever has it brought your family over all closer together yeah 100 percent isn't that amazing yeah it's crazy how something like that when we first had in my first niece it like it was like the first time we were a family it felt like in some ways yeah i would agree i i think and and nina by the way is is such a great mom she's doing such a great job and she um like sends videos and pictures to us every day oh that's sweet ever and so like shout out to nina for for fucking being amazing on that set of things yeah it's nice it keeps you involved makes you feel like a part of it that's important yep and they do this thing where it's like outfit of the day and like uh estimate like loves it and she like knows even though she can't talk really she like puts on her outfit and then nina like films her coming out of the room with the outfit and like hypes her up and then s may like loves it and is like she like knows that it's like some important moment um so it's really fucking beautiful like little shit like that yeah stuff like that yeah stuff like that that makes you feel kind of connected it's awesome shout out to nina that's beautiful and congratulations to them it is exciting that baby looks so happy huh huh happiest baby ever i think really bro that's the blessing i get these videos every day and she's just like happiness maxine dude when you get some cap ass baby that shit's fucking trash honestly like that's the problem is you can't return it i know you gotta remodel it there's no coupon put some fucking fendi on that bitch or something you gotta do something bro because they got some cap ass children out there um they gotta redo the genetics type shit um blessings to them man jake thanks for coming and hanging out dude yep i appreciate it bro i've just enjoyed getting to talk to you this the most you and i've ever talked and i i think it's like yeah you just get a different concept to people it's hard to know people until you talk to him dude brian johnson i thought that that guy was gonna be like he was gonna show up like in bubble wrap or something and fucking drinking his own cum or something bro bro sorry you know he's had a little way but by the way what i'm saying is dude he was a cool he was like just just like it's just interesting until you get to know somebody you're right we live in this place where we assume things based on what we see it's all it's all uh interesting and some of it's our some of it's our fault and some of it is a place of where we are um it's interesting though you know i uh i killed him the other day did you really yeah i killed him he'll be back oh you put him asleep i won't sleep wow he's supposed to go to bed at 4 30 p.m anyway i killed him what was that dude hell yeah bro this dude is up for anything bro no no no like he's dead oh okay well i don't know so like i i kind of fucked up the don't die movement but like he's he's such a great guy but i had to kill him i kind of feel you know he is that neighbor that's out in the front yard fucking boiling his own blood and shit you know that can fucking i love that guy he's a genius but like bro i'm i'm i'm jake paul i had to go viral oh yeah bro so i had to kill him dude yes and it's for the game yeah see that shit for sure rip brian johnson bro yeah see what the crossroads homie gang thanks jake thought it's gonna take