Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Maxx Crosby TRADED to Ravens, Steelers SEARCHING for QB Answers

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Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast. How you doing today, Joe? I am doing great, brother Debo. Free agency, live in effect. A lot of people, a lot of action. Things are happening as we speak right now, this very moment. So I'm loving this part of the offseason where you see what your team is talking about. What they're trying to do, who's trying to make moves. Are they good moves or bad moves? So I'm excited. it oh yeah definitely definitely do so what we gonna do is we go we miss we miss our uh we missed the uh the uh uh what do you call it the chat we yeah we missed the super chats yesterday so we're gonna do them at the top we're gonna do yesterday's at the top at the end we're gonna do those at the top then we'll get to whatever else is in the lineup okay but uh right now we're gonna get into the stillers man why is they still talking about we must get a quarterback to you know like It's not happening in this draft, Joe. What do you think the possibilities of anything happening in this draft? I got a whole set of what I think is going on, dude. This is what I'm saying when people start to panic in. They're like, oh, no, just because people are making moves with Max Crosby, we got to go and make a pick. We quarterbacked the Steelers. I'm like, look, calm down. Calm down. Everybody relax. since people are making moves you don't want to make a bad move if you do think at the end of the day i feel a lot of the stealers that they think malik willis is the guy they don't right no will howard i can respect that i can respect that thought you know what i'm saying but at the same time there's no rush we don't have to rush into these things we still got like we said i believe in still thinking that we can give will howard a chance malik willis is a probably a more valuable option. He's showing what he can do in the league. He has valuable reps. He's won games with Green Bay. So I can see where they're coming from. But is that who Mike McCarthy likes? Does Mike McCarthy like Will? Does he not want to put that money there and be able to go do some other moves? How does he plan it? So you don't want us to panic when you start seeing things happen around the league. You're like, oh my gosh, what are we doing? Are we just standing? No, no, no, no. Sometimes it's not the smartest move for them to make the quickest one. You know what I'm saying? And so I'm not in a panic state. I still like Will. I understand Malik. If people don't like him, I'm not against it at all. He hasn't proven anything. He was a drafted pick. They put Mason in front of him like last year when, why didn't they put him in? I can hear what everybody's saying. But for me, I'm rocking with Mike McCarthy. I'm rocking with Omar Khan. I'm letting them take their time and not just rush and make rash moves that they don't believe. You know what I'm saying? So I can see with teams making moves, whatever it's early in free agency, you want to make a pop. You want your team to be going across the ticker like, oh, yeah, we did this. OK, you could do that and it could be bad. And the next, you know, time will tell. So it's still early, still early in FIA to see. We still got time. We can still make moves. I just don't. I can see when some people want Malik and they will start panicking. Oh, yeah, let's go here and do this. But I'm in the I'm in the mind frame where don't rush. We still do got will, even though other people don't believe in it. I know we have money that we have other places that we need to do. We just released John News, so we're opening up bread, so we got things that we can do. So I'm still chilling. I would like our team to go across the ticket, too. I want to see the Steelers getting a linebacker. You know what I'm saying? I see we just signed Asante Samuel Jr. on the opposite side. Small. One year, $4 million. I like the way he played. He gets another year in the defense to be able to get comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Coming in midseason, you know, feet still, he still couldn't get comfortable. Now he got a complete offseason. He's on a prove-it deal. You know how those work? Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Getting comfortable now. he knows he's trying to go get that bag. So I'm liking that little things like that is smooth under the radar, but we're just trying to get what we need. Don't rush and go do something. Oh yeah, look who we got. We got this big name. It doesn't matter. There's a lot of, there's a lot of names out there that dudes aren't just like, oh yeah, this dude that have the prove it deals that might not be the number, the dude that you know, but there's ballers out there that, you know what I'm saying? You could pick that one, like little stuff like that. So that's why I'm at it. Yeah. They need to, they need to stop panicking, man. because we are not drafting a quarterback. We are not picking up a quarterback in free agency. Yes, it's definitely something that we need to address depending on how things look. Like you said, Willis, it's not going to happen. There's too many people after him. The money he go command, it's going to be out of control. And another reason is he's not signed yet. And I think it's a lot of people right now that's sitting back and they like, well, I ain't trying to give him the bag bag for this small sample of work. You know what I'm saying? So ain't nobody really jumping the gun to go and be like, yo, here, here it go. And we already talked about the draft. There's nothing there. So that's out. It's just not even happening there. And right now, the big thing for me is, like you said, like, what can Will Howard do? He is a national champion. we haven't given him a chance to either prove or disprove he can or can't do it and as you said with mike mccarthy he likes will howard dude he said he said himself he was like i really i'm really excited about will he said he said i'm really excited about will howard he said i'm anxious to get to work with him and he said he loves the way he plays the game and when he said that he was talking that he was pointing to how will played his best ball in the college playoffs so with him saying that about will he's definitely going to give him a chance yeah and this year it's gonna be the end of speculations of can he do it and the good part was last year he was on the bench he was able to sit behind he was hurt too you don't have to that's why he didn't get a chance you don't have to rush nobody into it him being able to get the flow be able to not have to play his rookie season, he's still the same dude with a year under his belt, now getting more comfortable. So I would love to see him with a chance because he's a big body and he's done it before. That's something else. He's fully healthy now. I think he fractured his hand last year and I believe that was what really kept him out of the flow of being able to fight for a spot. And another thing is we're waiting on Rodgers, dude. We're waiting on his decision. He hasn't gave a 100% answer one way or the other, dude. and when you do that it's like okay we ain't making no moves because we're okay with where we at so that makes that makes me believe that the stillers they're at a point where it's like okay we're content where we're at right now we're going to give will harrod a chance and we believe that the option rolls around and say it's not working out or it's not looking like it's going to work out that rogers will still be there because from his talking a lot of people believe it's it's pittsburgh or nowhere yeah i would say it's well in nowhere yes right and it's not like it's a bunch of other teams out there that's that's looking to you know grab him right now anyway yeah yeah so we we still have that option our next thing is like everybody's saying that right down here in chat is like a receiver yes we're looking at the receiver position and when you look at it you know they were talking about uh the possibility of um the best guys around available. And it was two guys that I liked that was in that talk. And I think it was Alec Pierce that was one. And the other one was Wondell Robinson. And the reason I like Pierce is I think we can get him for a good price. Like, he has a little issue with, like, separation, you know, just at the line, getting off, you know, bump coverage. His routes aren't really as sharp as they would like to be. But, dude, he ran a 4-4-1. You might as well say that's a 4-3 game speed. Boy, 6-3, almost 215. He got 47 catches last year and still had over 1,000 yards, Joe. That's 21 and some change. That's real life deep threat. 40-inch vertical. 40-plus inch vertical, dude. Ball skills is nice. He's a high-point catcher. He's going up to get the ball. He tracks the ball well. He's coming down with the 50-50. almost 70-80% of the time. And Joe, he can block. The boys like to get physical. See, I like Alec Pierce. I like him. When they were talking about the trade for Michael Pittman Jr., I was like, I like Alec Pierce just a little more and he's going to be a free agent. So that one, a thousand percent you said, I like Wondell Robinson too as a possession receiver and get open. You know what I'm saying? That's a guarantee. We need that but i'm also a fan of romeo dobbs romeo dobbs is a get it done dude he does all the dirty work he blocks he catches he doesn't make a lot of noise but he goes out there and gets it done so i think he's one that we could be able to get for the low too at prove it deals still going out there grinding he's a great receiver that he's a little older too though though he's a little older but i just he's still getting it done route running and it's for the and it's not going to be as expensive as some of these other dudes. So I like Romeo Dobbs. I like Wondell Robinson for sure. Sly and Alec Pierce. Right. Any of those three would be a nice add to the roster. Yeah, definitely. Wondell Robinson, that's a yak machine. I think he only like 5'7", 5'8", something like that. But hey, he almost heavy as you. Well, I don't know how much you weigh no more, Joe. He 185, you know what I'm saying? That's the man. Yeah, we same weight. We same weight. He's saying, wait. Like I said, he effective, man. Like you said, the short route. He got that quick in and out. He go hit you on them whips and them options, that quick slam game. You know what I'm saying? He dangerous once he get it in his hands. Yes. Like we had, what's my man? Like we had the receiver that came to us last year from Minnesota. Thielen. Okay. Yeah. Yes. Young Thielen. Get it done. Third down, possession receiver. Yeah. And listen, something else I want these people to get out of their head. What? We ain't trading TJ Watt. He ain't going nowhere, man. He ain't going nowhere. No. That's not the way they do business. That ain the way they do business It not going to happen But you know me joe i like to i like to you know ask questions and give give speculations you know with that being said again tj y ain going nowhere that just media endless speculation it ain't happening man just signed what three-year deal 123 million 108 guaranteed just last july yes okay we got 50 million dollars in cash space so we ain't got no money issues. I know his numbers down, all that other stuff. That don't count because you're not looking at the stats that don't have numbers to them that he adds to which allows other people to be able to do what they do. Like I said, Joe. And he's out because he got punctured lung from the in-house. He didn't do nothing wrong. So he's just keeping it cool. You know what I'm saying? So now let him heal from that when he's on the field. Numbers, everything. He just was out because he had a punctured lung. It's not his bad. Let him get right. Okay, so now, Joe. Yes. 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Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. you want to entertain what you got to entertain you talking about I mean I love TJ but you talking about two of them and he you know he ain't young no more I think TJ what 31 32 something like that coming up on that like that right there yes it pains me to say it but like we said before we we prefaced our comments by saying TJ's not going nowhere but two first you want to check and see the temperature at the same time like the crazy part is too deep like once you get to that second and that third contract when they're looking at they don't care about the number say it was seven and a half sacks last year they don't care about the what why what he was missing games because he was injured you know i'm saying what's care about the punctured lung seven and a half sacks doesn't look like double digits and what he's done for the last five years in a row when you're making 35 40 million dollars a year it is literally What have you done for me lately? Like, what have you done for me last season? You know what I'm saying? Like, there's no load time. Like, you're getting paid 40. You should be showing me $40 million worth of work every season, every game, every snap. So that's how names even get put into there. But when you're looking at, like, TJ, his production, he has 115 sacks so far in his career. Okay, that's okay. The numbers are speaking for themselves. Seven and a half last season because he was hurt. but names like TJ Watts, the best players that do it at this level, two first round picks. All right. Okay. He's 31. I mean, okay. You do kind of, it sounds, it's intriguing, but like, yeah, I would, I don't think TJ is going anywhere to steal us. I don't think they do business like that. But like you said, if they talking to first round picks, you got to ask and you, you're going to, you might, you're going to answer the call. Yeah. Speaking of, speaking of two first round, picks the damn ravens went and got max crosby that's they did from the raiders dude two first rounds picking 26 picking 27 man the dude done had what is it 69 and a half sacks since 2019 that's double what the actual baltimore's top uh sacker did in that same time span he only had 30, I think it was the D-tackle. He's also a D-tackle, though. So you got to look at that. That's still impressive, you know, when it comes down to it. So when you look at it, like over the last, what is it, one, two, five years, Baltimore has blown NFL worst 16 leads in the final minutes of a game, five, five or more than any other team. And last season, they blew two of them in the fourth quarter, One by 15 with four minutes left and one by 11 in the fourth quarter, bro. With them getting Max Crosby, brother, do you think this makes them real contenders and he'll be able to put a fire out to the inability for them to finish games in the fourth quarter? I think it's a big time help. I don't think it's the main thing. I think they still got to do a little bit more on that defense, you know, but adding Max Crosby just shows into the day the Ravens know they have their franchise quarterback. They have Lamar Jackson. They haven't been able to even make it to the Superbowl. So these big moves for these type teams, like they don't have time to go try to get that first round pick that might pan out. No, let's go get a Max Crosby that we know he's going to come here. He's going to add to the defense. He brings the energy. He wants to win. this is the type of player that we can bring here he's going to be a leader of the defense he's going to add to the safety that we got our linebacker to the core you know what i'm saying so with with me i'm i'm rocking with the ravens because they're like their windows closing we got lamar jackson he's not getting any younger we need to turn this up like we can go get this baller them first round picks in the future i don't know we don't expect to be picking high in the first round anyway let's go get a guaranteed certified baller that can go make something happen for our team so for the Ravens I'm I understand why they would do it because they're they're going all in we got to perform we know he's going to be here for a couple of years we got a legitimate DN we haven't been able we haven't rushed to pass it really well we need to be able to get after the quarterback he can close the games for us so for me I think that they they made a good move they know they have a couple more moves to make but this is a move that teams that feel like they need a couple of pieces make when they feel like this is what we got to do to start winning. So, Joe. Yes. What I like about this is this move puts Baltimore at about $10 million in cap space. So there's going to need to be some restructuring. You go for the top, I think it's 10 guys, Lamar Jackson. Yes. Hitting the cap for 74-5. Yep. Followed by Smith, Rochon Smith, 32-7. Yep. The DN, 31. Crosby now, 30.6. Humphrey, 26.3. The tackle, Ron Stanley, 24.1. And then Kyle Hamilton, they don't know where that's at. It's between 10 and 26, depending on how his bonus accounting is. Derrick Henry, 16-3. Travis Jones, 16-3. and Mark Andrews, 14-7. Well, they got 65% of their cap taken by five players. Lamar Jackson is 25% alone. And they seem to be beefing, okay? And along with that, it's about four or five starters that are real-life free agents. So I don't know how much you've helped yourself here because you got a lot going on. But they're your problems, and I'm glad y'all got them. I don't think they're two bigger problems though, man. They're going to just have to do some restructuring. The man already said something goofy about Lamar not being there in camp as soon as the OC, as soon as he got there. What are you talking about? You forgot about that? I don't forget about that. He don't forget about that. What are you talking about? I ain't even talked to the man yet. Joe? Yeah, that's not good. That's not good. Joe! They're going to figure it out because Lamar is going to come. He has to go there. He has to end up performing. Lamar is going to ball. That's the thing. He's going to come there and he's going to perform regardless. So if you don't like him, whatever, whatever, they're showing they came to go get Max Crosby. They're trying to get the defense right. You know, if he didn't show up to the OTAs, that's not a good look. That's problems that we definitely hope that they're having. But what he was like. He didn't, he ain't been showing up to. We talking about that's what he do. You know what I'm saying? He got to be out training, doing what he do. Now you got the new dude coming here. And he talking about you ain't doing enough. You just going to come in here and just start throwing accusations around? How you going to do that? You talking about the coach? The OC that got in there, man. What are you talking about? It's not accusations. He said that he wanted him to be in there. He didn't say he wanted him to be in there. He said if somebody wants to win, they need to do this and do that. And it's all the stuff Lamar, I guess, was accustomed to not going to. So why don't you just say his name? He don't want to go that far. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, man. You know, Max had this. Max got on over there before he left, though. He had to say goodbye to Raider Nation. We got the sound. Listen to this, man. Ever since I've been here, man, I've had one goal and one mission. that's become the best version of myself and help bring a championship back to the Raider organization. And I feel like I left, you know, everything I had on the table for this team. I've given my heart and soul, and I feel like I let y'all down, man. Ever since day one I wanted to create and build a winner with the Raiders Yo Yes I think the man is sad to go. I think he done got out of there. I think he's sad to go. I think he's sad to go. I think, honestly, I mean, no, he's sad to go because of the city. The same way. He wanted to go there and legitimately think he could make a winner in Vegas. Fans got behind him. he genuinely thought he could do it. When you're that good of a player, you think wherever you go, you can bring a team. But it's more than just you. You can only do your 111th. You got tackles, guards, you got coaches, you got GMs. There's a bigger thing than just you being able to bring a championship to a team. And that's the part where he's like, yo, when I come in here, he genuinely probably thought, we're going to grow the team here, the core that we got, all these guys, we're going to make something happen. No. You know what I'm saying? And so it's genuine sadness like, man, I really thought I could bring a championship here. Like, I tried my hardest. And then last season when they're blatantly, you're saying I can play, and they're holding you out of games. When you're like, they don't want to win. Like, I'm sorry to the Raiders nation. I wanted to bring a championship here, but it wasn't in the same cahoots of the Raiders nation of the managers and the people of the above, the higher ups. They had a different plan. You saying Tom Brady ain't want to win? I mean, right. I think that maybe, yes, looking at it like the same way basketball. If we ain't going to make the playoffs, we might as well tank had a best-case scenario to get the highest draft pick. Like something I think they might be doing that. If your best player says he can play and is good to play, you're like, no, no, no, just go ahead, rest it out, we're going to call it the season. Then that's showing that you don't want to win because your best player on defense will probably help you win the game. He wants to go win. He doesn't want to go lose. So you hold him out like, no, no, you just rest that ankle you know i'm saying so that is possibly what was happening and when max is looking at it like we're organizationally not on the same path i know raiders fans y'all wanted to win i wanted to win but i'm sorry i gotta go elsewhere got me up out of here you know i'm saying sorry i couldn't bring all the championship genuinely i wanted to i think that's what it was like okay okay man listen i'm not what you think happy about him leaving i kind of wish he had stayed at least went to the cowboys um because i don't like the fact that we got a scene twice okay you know i don't that's what i don't like yeah for them as a raven's fan hell yeah i like it. I love it. But my reaction is nothing compared to Jamar Chase's reaction, man. Listen to this. Joe just fucking texted me. Ravens traded for Max Crosby. No fucking shit. No fucking shit. No fucking shit, brother. I'm fucking highly pissed right now. Oh, my God. Oh my god Fucking How the fuck do we let this nigga go to the fucking division bro Oh my god bro Why the fuck do we let this nigga go to the division bro Oh my god Hey Oh Listen you heard what he said Yes Burrow text him, bruh, I got these three monsters over here, man. I got to see twice a year. They're loading up on me. TJ, and now y'all done brought Crosby over here. Bruh. That's the sound of a man that's like, he's genuinely pissed. He's genuinely pissed. He wants his team to win. When you see that and you're on the squad and you know, end of the division, they bringing in, players know, they're like, Max Crosby's a dog. And Joe Burrow texting him because he know T.J. Watt hitting him upside the head. Look at him. That's not a zen. He's trying to be zen. He's trying to be zen. He doesn't feel zen. He doesn't feel safe. I don't feel safe for him. Hey. That's just, you know what I'm saying? Joe. Let me talk to Joe. Joe Burrow. He needs to buy them boys more than golf. Oh, see, listen. I got my camera. I'm on my phone right now. See, I ain't got no internet service. You know what I'm saying? So I'm on my phone right now, people. That's why it's kind of iffy, iffy. So the camera... Oh, no. The camera's right here. Okay, so the camera's right there. Hey, Joe. Yes. Joe, let's talk to Joe Burrow. Joe, come on over here to the Steelers, man. We can protect you. We will protect you at all costs. All costs. You come on over here. We're going to make sure your blind side is protected. We will go out there and spend and spend to make sure you are okay. It's never too late to come on over here. I hear, I see, I feel your concern just from how you called your partner like, hey, you know what they done did? They done went and got this monster and they done let him go over there? They done sent him over there? Yep. Joe. Joe. Come on. Come on. Tell him. Open arms. Open arms. Welcomed. Embrace you, my brother. Embrace Joe Burrow. Now, that's the only... Now, when you talk about Joe Burrow, that's when you definitely, you answer the phone for anybody. Anybody could go. I don't care anyone could go for Joe what y'all want what you want tell us what you want the phone line is open Joe just need to get disgruntled tell him he's going to get out of it yeah Omar Khan Omar what's up baby but the only way though bro they not lying we gotta do a double deal okay it gotta be a double deal we on right now but I'm talking to Joe me and Joe talking to Joe Burrow right now so what we gonna do is we gonna get it right uh huh yeah I'm gonna get back to you after we get through with the show though believe me I'm gonna get in there I'm gonna go ahead and make we might as well bump it if this ain't tampering I don't care if we could do it if we could do it but we have to bring You know what, though? He's not leaving Jamar Chase. Jamar! That's why I said we got to do a WD. We got to look past the nasty shit you did. We got to do a WD. You know? Yep. Everything can be forgiven. Listen. Everything can be forgiven. If... Hey. See, I'm giving... That's a lot to go. Joe. Yep. Joe, hey. Everything. Lord forgives, man. How am I not going to be able to get it? How many first-round picks do we have? What they want, give it. Give them all. We don't need none for the next five, six years. Give them here. There you go. Joe. No, for sure. I'm dressing that up however they want it. I'm telling you, brother. Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing. Razzler! Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. He pulls the gun. tells me to lie down on the ground. He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years. I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth. For 22 years, only two people knew the truth until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hilary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing her first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family like this picture, and that's not reality a lot of the time. It's for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life, and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast Doubt the case of Lucy Letby we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was no voicing of any skepticism or doubt it'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong listen to Doubt the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, wait, I'm telling you. But you know what? It was one place they wouldn't go send Crosby. Tom said, ain't no way. We ain't sending them over there to Patriots. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Patriots reportedly wanted Max Crosby in the offseason, but Tom said he wasn't having it. He was not having it. I guess a follower spoke to someone involved in the Crosby trade and, quote, no way Tom was sending Max to Vrabel. Joe. Yes. Should the Raiders be worried about Tom Brady's ties to the Patriots and how it could affect business decisions, Joe? I would only say if they were willing to offer them two first-round picks and he was still like, no. then no if he's going against the best deal for against his personal relationships right yes like if they're offering if new england's trying to get over with a friendly deal like yeah give me i'll give you a first and a fifth for max and he's like this no i'm not sending them to new england completely justified but if you like they send you two first rounds and you like this no i'm sending them over here for a first and a second y'all got me like i'm not helping y'all right then that's when it's like, no, no, Tom. Come on, man. Tighten up, brother. So you think it wasn't a first and a first. You thinking it was just a first and something else. I think that it was maybe it had to be a worse deal because I'm not in the mind frame to think that Tom is going to do that. But look, look, look. I don't know what they offered. Let me find out what they offered them. And if it was a first and a first, and he was still laughing in their faces, then the Raiders need to be concerned. Well, okay. But Joe, Joe, you know me. I like to stir it up a little bit, Joe. Now, I'm going to say if both deals were equal, then yes, maybe that's a good decision. But if both deals were not equal and they could have got maybe a little pinch more over here with the Patriots I going to tell you what I think may have happened This is just a um hypothetical conspiracy This is a conspiracy. I think this is what happened. Tom said, hell no, I'm not sending him over there and giving them a rusher like that after they done already went to the Super Bowl. And if they had him, they would have had a damn good chance of winning it. And y'all got this young quarterback over there that's doing it. Being compared to me, I can't have him up there about to go ahead and be erasing my legacy as a patriot. It's a little bit of maybe self-preservation. That's what I think, Joe. I think you could be right. I think you could definitely be right. I think because Tom Brady, I mean, he could be like, no, I won the seven there. I'm not trying to get him this. I'm not trying to clip all they were in the ship. If I get him max, then they're automatically going to be right back. Yeah, I mean, I can understand exactly what you're saying. And I think that he could have a little, you never know. Tom Brady could have had a hate in his heart. Well, like, man, no, I don't want the Patriots to be good. Well, you know, it ain't so much hate as it is. preserving your legacy, Joe. Preserving your... His legacy is preserved. He's Tom Brady. He don't know. He on year two and he done went there. Buddy did not win one ship yet. He got six. He got seven total. I can see if he started doing this after Buddy won two. Let him win two. And then you start trying to preserve. You can't give him a shot, Joe. You can't give him no head start. You can't give him what he gave him, man. You put him right there where he'm at. It ain't hating. It's preserving your legacy. Joe? He'd think he's the competitor. Take the best. I think the deal was less. I think he would have took the best. I want to find out. Somebody that got some inside information, I want to find out how much better the deal was that he took from Baltimore. And then even if it was the same deal, I'm still with him going. You could definitely send him to the other team. For sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. I'm with that, but you know, I think now I think about it, they might have been like, yeah, you know what? He going to help us out. The hell he is. He going to give us a play a deal, you know what I'm saying? His legacy here, man. He want to see his win. The hell he do? No, the hell he don't. He want to see y'all go down in the dirt. Yes, he wants to flip the Raiders. Go down in flames. He want the Raiders to win the ship before the Patriots win the ship. No question. No question. Y'all ain't giving me the ownership over there? No. That's Kraft. That's Kraft. He don't need no other owners. But him and Kraft got a good relationship, man. You think you let him get a piece, though? A great relationship, but you're going to let him get a piece of the Patriots? I don't know how friendly, how much of a friend he is. I guess he don't really love me like he say he do. If you love me, you got to show me. You got to show me. Show me. Show me. How much for 5% of New England? Joe, man, listen here, brother. They said, you know, your Browns over there, they said they might have some drama going on over there. No drama. They haven't, I don't know, dude, they haven't been able to get a hold of Miles Garrett. They said since, was it Monk and Guy Hyde? I think maybe he was just driving too fast. The signal couldn't catch up to him and his phone wasn't working or something. Wow. Or maybe, I don't know. I mean, he was at the Olympics, too. He was supporting his girlfriend, so he might have had bad service. You know what I'm saying? And now the DC, Mike Ruttenberg, they asked him, you know, had you heard from Miles yet? And he said, we haven't spoke face to face. We've both been traveling a lot. And I cannot wait to meet him and learn from him. Obviously, amazing. Obviously, amazingly, as much as what utmost respect for him as a player and all the great things I've heard about him as a person. So. Yes. How hard is it to make a phone call, Joe? Hey, TJ Watt then talked to his D coordinator. TJ Watt then had a conversation with his D coordinator. Bro. It is literally off-season. It's not even... There is no issue, Joe, that he hasn't even talked to the D.C. one time yet. You know why? He's Miles Garrett. He's going to be there on time, ready to perform. Like, what are we going to talk about? What are we going to talk about right now during the offseason? I understand. You got the draft stuff. How do you know he ain't going to change the whole defense? It don't even matter. When Miles gets there, what you going to do? He knows how to get after the passer. All defenses, you need a Miles. That's crazy, Joe. It's going to fit wherever. And Miles is going to be there in April, and it's going to come in there. He's going to be there. He's going to be a leader. I just don't get all that. Don't be putting that. Hey, hey, do y'all hear how much Joe is a Browns fan? He doesn't even want to say anything is possible for there to be any negative consequences from them. This is crazy. I'm just saying we got enough drama already that's real. Please do me a favor and take those. Stiller helmets out of your office. Huh? This is real drama, Joe. This is not real drama. This is... Okay, but Lamar not... Lamar's OC saying something ain't real drama, but him not even talking to the man ain't real drama, even though he's been trying to get a hold of him. He didn't say he was trying to get a hold of him. He didn't say he was leaving more red. I'm reading in between the lines. No, you're adding lies. You're adding lies. He didn't reach out to Miles. Miles ain't reached out to him because he's trying to figure out everything else. He knows one thing. When OTAs and all that come, Miles Garrett is going to be the starting defensive end for – he needs to be figuring out his plan and how he's going to do Miles. Miles is going to be there. Don't trip. Miles is getting his 40. Miles is going to be there, and Miles is going to come. Maybe Miles is going to be like that 40 ain't enough no more, man. Nope. After what y'all did. Nope. I need 50. Nope. He good. He good. He still got – No, he still got another year until he get to negotiating again. Miles going to just chill, do what he got to do. Off season, he's enjoying it after 23 and a half. You don't got to see it, Miles. Come back right there in April. He still got a couple days, a couple weeks, two, three weeks. That's crazy. He just got a ticket, though, not even two weeks ago, but he still couldn't. And Cleveland. He was trying to get to the airport. He was trying to get to the airport. To go. because he had to support his girl for the X Games. To go talk to him. Like, the man, listen. Okay, Joe. Miles can't do no wrong. Miles can't do no wrong. All right, look, for real, he could at the end of the day. A phone call isn't hard. And being a text. Hey, how you doing? This is Miles, man. Nice to e-meet you. Text meet you, man. I get a hold of you when my schedule get a little bit lighter. You know what I'm saying? Like, anything, Joe. Am I off or are you off, Joe? Look like we done lost Joe, y'all. So now it is the Devo show. I've been waiting on this. I've been waiting on this the whole time. I ain't going to even lie to y'all. Damn it, is he coming back? This is the Devo show. look here man so what we're gonna do is we're gonna get into a little bit of other news here man we got we got a big signing over here with philly man they done signed jordan davis to a huge contract over here man let's check this out right here he just signed a extension it's in a three-year extension actually 70 what is that 76 million dollars 78 million dollars he just signed a 78 million dollar extension that makes him the highest paid nose tackle in nfl history he got 65 million guaranteed. 2022, what was he? The 13th pick. He was going into his fifth year. That was 13 million for his fifth year option, obviously, that they picked up. This right here is one of those things, man, that I love to see, man. I like to see dudes breaking records, getting more money and more money. They had no choice to be honest with you. The dude is just a straight up monster when you look at him, especially his ability in a run game. There's no way that you're going to be able to stop him. No. Cut Joe out. There's no way you're going to be able to stop him. The man runs a 4-7-8 in the 40. Him and Joe usually run the same time. 341 pounds. The man is 6-6 He's big. He's strong. My Wi-Fi went out. You know, running the ball, you're going to need at least two to block him. Passing the ball, you're going to need at least two to block him. You cannot stop him with one. He's going to collapse your pocket. Y'all tell me when Joe get back. And when that happens, the quarterback cannot throw the ball, man. Who are you talking about? Yes, they better have paid that man good money. Who are you talking about? Because if they didn't, if they didn't, it would have been some smoke in the city. They had to do what they had to do. You understand? That's what you do. You make yourself unable to be let go, and they got to pay you more and more. And that's how you do it. You hear me, people? I hear y'all in the chat. Yes, Joe got some BS internet. That is right. And he don't pay his bills. Right in the middle of the miles talk. They just cut off. Oh, it just cut off right in the middle. Oh, Joe back. Oh, there he is. yeah I'm here it cut off in the middle of the miles see I was informing the people about Jordan Davis his three year extension 78 million the man becomes the highest paid nose tackle in NFL history that's how you do it dude that dude is a monster brother huge you need two at all times you ain't moving him with one you ain't moving him with one free up my linebackers that's freeing up my linebackers that's what you need and that's how you see it defensive tackles getting that bag everybody everybody getting that bag that's 26 million a year now for D tackles dude it's uh I think he got 65 guaranteed deservingly so oh yeah no question that dude is a baller plug up the middle people need dudes like that and when you do it for the team I love to see when the team that you ball for takes care of you. Yes, sir. That's the way to do it. Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest. This is the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is... Creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much, iHeartRadio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, free at veeps.com or the veeps app. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? How did this have been made to fit? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. this case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ego Woda is your host for the 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards, live at South by Southwest. Hello, is anybody there? 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