The Daily Stoic

Bert Kreischer's Reading List (From Ryan Holiday)

14 min
Feb 8, 20264 months ago
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Summary

Ryan Holiday recommends a curated reading list to Bert Kreischer, discussing classic and contemporary books including The Great Gatsby, A Confederacy of Dunces, and The Fatal Shore. The conversation explores how great books reveal themselves over time and the importance of reading across one's lifetime.

Insights
  • Rejection and initial failure don't determine a book's ultimate value or success—A Confederacy of Dunces was rejected by agents and editors before winning the Pulitzer Prize
  • Reading the same book at different life stages yields different insights and understanding, suggesting books should be revisited rather than abandoned
  • Book titles themselves are an art form worthy of study, with sources like the Grateful Dead and historical texts providing inspiration for creative naming
  • Personal journaling practices like one-line-a-day journals create accountability and reveal life patterns when reviewed across multiple years
  • Building community spaces like bookstores with offices creates external impact beyond commercial utility, serving as cultural gathering points
Trends
Resurgence of classic literature in modern formats—100-year anniversary editions of The Great Gatsby with illustrations and contextual informationJournaling as a wellness and accountability practice gaining mainstream adoption among high-profile individualsLiterary recommendations becoming content—podcasts and public figures curating and discussing reading lists as entertainmentRenewed interest in historical non-fiction, particularly narratives about criminal justice and colonial historyAuthor mental health and rejection sensitivity as part of literary discourse and cultural conversation
Topics
Classic American LiteratureBook Publishing and RejectionReading Habits and Lifetime LearningJournaling PracticesLiterary Criticism and AnalysisHistorical Non-FictionBook Curation and RecommendationsAuthor BiographyCreative Writing TitlesPulitzer Prize WinnersAustralian HistoryPrison HistoryParenting Through Media ExposureBookstore Business ModelsLiterary Adaptation to Film and Television
Companies
Airbnb
Ryan Holiday mentions staying in an Airbnb while traveling for speaking engagements, noting the property needs updating.
Wayfair
Sponsor providing furniture and home decor solutions; Holiday mentions using Wayfair for home and office decoration.
Shopify
Sponsor offering e-commerce platform and payment solutions for online businesses worldwide.
DuckDuckGo
Sponsor providing privacy-focused AI chat interface (duck.ai) for secure conversations with AI tools.
Louisiana University Press
Publisher that published A Confederacy of Dunces after it was rejected by major publishers and agents.
Tulane University
Institution where professor Walker Percy taught and reviewed A Confederacy of Dunces manuscript.
People
Bert Kreischer
Comedian and podcast guest receiving book recommendations from Ryan Holiday at his bookstore in Bastrop, Texas.
Ryan Holiday
Host and author curating reading list recommendations; owns a bookstore in Bastrop, Texas with office space.
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Author of The Great Gatsby; discussed for his marriage struggles and famous exchange with Ernest Hemingway about wealth.
Ernest Hemingway
Author and contemporary of Fitzgerald; famous for exchange about the wealthy being different due to having more money.
John Kennedy Toole
Author of A Confederacy of Dunces who died by suicide before his manuscript was published and won the Pulitzer Prize.
Walker Percy
Tulane University professor who discovered and championed A Confederacy of Dunces after Toole's death.
Hunter S. Thompson
Author discussed as possibly the greatest sports writer of all time; wrote Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
James Michener
Author mentioned as influential to Kreischer's reading development in college.
Matthew McConaughey
Actor and author whose book Greenlights Kreischer read; known for extensive ketchup references in the memoir.
Scott Hogan
Corrective exercise specialist and author of Built from Broken, a book about healing joints and rebuilding strength.
Quotes
"In my younger and more vulnerable years, my father gave me some advice I've been turning over in my mind ever since. Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone who told me, just remember that all people in the world haven't had the advantages you've had."
F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby, read by Ryan Holiday)Early in episode
"The rich, they're just like different than you and I. Yeah, they have more money."
Ernest Hemingway (in response to Fitzgerald)Mid-episode discussion
"He's dead. He has not changed it in any way. The one that his editor said wasn't a good book. The one that his agent said wasn't a good book. Wins the Pulitzer Prize."
Ryan Holiday (about A Confederacy of Dunces)Mid-episode
"You can't write, you gotta, do you think it's good? Does it do what you want to do? Does that mean it's going to be a success? You don't know, but you can't."
Ryan HolidayMid-episode
"It would have zero external impact on the world. Do you know what I mean?"
Ryan Holiday (about choosing to open a bookstore instead of renting office space)Late episode
Full Transcript
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It's really good. Where is the crack? Okay, so this is about Escot Pitch Hill blowing up his life. I love it. One of my favorite lines in a book ever, great catsby, Nick Caraway says, at the age of 30 I realized I had to stop lying to myself. It's my favorite line. Okay, so let me give you this then. I read it in, I read it when I moved to New York that I was working at Orange and Noble. So, um, there's a new edition of it. That is amazing. Really? Yeah, okay. So it's a hundred years old. It's now officially in the public domain. So this is a hundred year anniversary edition and it's got all these like illustrations and stuff. My favorite line from the catsby is actually the first line which I'll read to you. These are fine chair, but I think this is like the greatest line. In my younger and more vulnerable years, my father gave me some advice I've been turning over in my mind ever since. Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone who told me, just remember that all people in the world haven't had the advantages you've had. He's read about white privilege in 1929. No, okay, so this is, it's got all these like, it's really cool. It's got all these like cool like facts and stuff on the screen. Oh, shit. You like learn about like the making of the book and stuff. Oh, that's awesome. So those two go really. Do you know the crazy, uh, Fitzgerald, have you my story? No. Okay, so Fitzgerald is like the worst marriage of all times. All these, uh, where she tells, Escaped the channel that is dick and small and he's like really, really broken up about it. So it still works a hundred years ago. So he goes to Hemingway and he tells her, uh, he tells him that she said this and what and and then Hemingway's like, let me see it. He shows him. He's like, dude, what are you talking about? And then that's there. That's their famous exchange. So he he's so inside of it. He has to check it out and tell him when I read it. I always say, uh, the best titles for any book are Hemingway and the best titles for any movies are the Grateful Dead. Oh, that's good. Grateful Dead has the best titles. They people have stolen so many tight like so many Grateful Dead songs and use it as a title that you're like, oh, someone told me that like every word in the Gettysburg address has become a book title. Like every phrase at the Gettysburg address has become its own book title. Like, you know, these honor dead. We, you know, um, uh, every phrase in it has to be found on the sound. I can I will sit like one of my favorite things to do is sit and try to think of titles. Yeah. So, uh, and but you know, that's how I got the TV show Something's Burnin. It was just like, oh, that's great. Something's burning and then I build the show around it. I was showin', trying to do called Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen. It's where 47 people make one dish. We just all, we just like, No, no, no, no, no. So the other having, there's actually a book called Handing Like, Verse Fitzgerald that's about their like, frenemy, friendship. Yeah. And um, in it, um, the other one, the other famous exchanges, because Fitzgerald is obsessed with money and like rich people. And he goes, you know, like, uh, uh, Ernest, like, the rich, they're just like different than you and I. In Handing Way, uh, since like, yeah, they have more money. And then having way puts that exchange in one of his books and Fitzgerald is like, humiliating. Can I tell you what book I didn't understand and now I understand? I didn't understand in college and now I'm sorry I don't understand. And I have not finished the whole book, but I've read parts of it all over. Is the Fountainhead. Oh, yeah. I'm random, it's like, you know, because at first I go, the, the hero's Keating. He's doing the job. He's getting the job done. He's showing up and going to work. He's, he's slapping it together, man. That's what we do. And then I start going, oh, work is the, oh, shit. I said these books. You have to read, you have to read over the course of your life. Yeah. That's why I think you'll like that and do one. Have you read, uh, have you read a Confederacy of Dances? Uh-huh. The funniest book of all time? Uh, the book that's this thing. Yeah. No, I've never read it. You have it? No. Would you read it? Yeah. It won't be a good art. Oh, let me find it. But it's, it's the funniest. It's, it's one of those books that you like. I'd love this to be a movie and I just had never managed to make it. That guy, that guy breaks my heart. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a good example. I saw the Jason, Jason, uh, what's him called? Movie he did. Jason kid from how I met your mother. Did a movie about the guy? Oh, uh, about John Kennedy tool? No. Oh, who am I thinking of? Who is infinite jazz? I'm thinking of infinite jazz. Okay. Confederacy does what I about right now. Okay. So where is good fun? I don't know why it's so confusing. I will get you Confederate suit. Okay. But John Kennedy, oh, here it is. Okay. Here it is. Funny spoken all the time. They were serious. There's a statue of him on, uh, Canal Street in New Orleans. He's a hot dog, it's a book about a hot dog salesman who just eats all the hot dogs. Uh, it's real. It's, it's, it's amazing. But okay, so the story of this book is this guy writes this book. He sends it to his agent and, uh, his agent is like, this is not a book. This sucks. She sends it to his editor. The guy's like, not a book. This sucks. So he kills himself. Our road outside, Balexi drives his car off, takes a garden hose, puts him in the pipe, into the window, kills himself. His mother finds a Confederacy of Dances in a Deaths drawer after his death. And she takes it to a professor in New Orleans at Tulane, a guy named Walker Percy, who wrote a famous book called The Movie Goer. Uh, this book also makes me, uh, The Movie Goer. Uh, he's a professor there. He reads the book, thinks it's, thinks it's genius. Gets it published by the Louisiana University Press, Press, it wins the Pulitzer Prize that year. So it's just a reminder to go to our point about not, like, the same fucking book. He's dead. He has not changed it in any way. The one that his editor said wasn't a good book. The one that his agent said wasn't a good book. Wins the Pulitzer Prize. Holy shit. So you can't, you can't, you can't write, you gotta, do you think it's good? Does it do what you want to do? Does that mean it's going to be a success? You don't know, but you can't. It's the funniest book you've ever written. I can't wait. I absolutely can't wait. Okay, what else might you like? I don't know. So you said you were reading two 600 pages books. What's the other one? Uh, uh, uh, something about, I used to be in History Books. John Malaney's book, it's, uh, John Malaney recommended it. It's about, uh, them sending the certain first, uh, debtors down to Ireland or to Australia. Oh, um, uh, fatal, the fatal shore. Fort short, yeah. Radable book. It's so hard to get into. What's up with that? Okay, can I ask you as a book owner, a book store? Do we have to read the preface? If you want to understand what's happening, I can't say, okay, this book is, here's a funny or Australian book. This is, this is better. This is much better. Uh, the fatal shore, I just read this here because I did an Australia tour last year and that was amazing. And it's a, it's a crazy good book. But I mean, the first like 200 pages of the fatal shore about like, how prisons in England work. Yeah, so it's like, it's like a, a while to get to even Australia. I know. It's a lot. And they don't have it in the audio book. Yeah, it's this old. If one like the Pulitzer Prize and like the 60s or something. It's there, but read that one. Okay. Very good. Okay. 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I was like my first book I ever sat in red for real, like where I was like not like I had to read it. I was like sat in red a book was the firm. And then the next one was... Fear and Loathing. And once I read Fear and Loathing, I then read K. Helge of Bronze, the pro-pro-it, Poffit, remember? And then I got into reading and then I read Hell's Angels, I started reading a lot in college. And then been in and out. But like, you remember James Mischner? Yeah, I was big in the Mischner. Yeah, he's buried in Texas. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Uh... Let's see. Um... You know, would you read The Wire or something? A Red Wire. The Wire. It's really gracious now, I believe it. But that's the thing. It was like I read that summer in the midnight, summer or whatever. The Joe recommended. Uh, in the prior of the summer moon? Yeah, and then I was like, wow, the Indian sounds like Dix. Uh, he's like, well, you gotta be careful who writes it. He, he, you have, you have, he's been here. Uh... And Frank, kind of boyfriend. It's a new joke I have. Did she? Yeah, and Sibzana. I go, are there single ladies in the audience? They go, yeah, I go, and Frank, I go boyfriend. Sibzana, an editor in the hall, cause maybe it's you, ladies. I bought endurance. Endurance is very good. Do you know why? It's called, oh, you told me why, my bad. What did I tell you? Yeah, I was like, I was about to quote you from your book about that. By endurance we conquer. Yeah. That was his family motto. And so he named the both the endurance. And then they all know that. Do you know if you read a top-up? No, I have not. Right, Thompson's maybe the greatest sports writer of all time. Oh, I know this guy. I haven't read this book, but he was on, uh, on, um, 30 for 30. Yes. I know this guy. He's awesome. Yeah, okay, he has a sports book you'll like. Yeah, you got sweet. This is, this is a like a legit bookstore. Yeah, my office is upstairs. It's a real, uh, we needed office space. And I was like, do I want to rent a board like top? Like, you guys are studio in Austin. It's like I could rent something like that there. And then it would have zero. It would be cool and easier in a lot of ways. But it would have zero. Yeah. External impact on the world. Do you know what I mean? People want to say I was like, we were eating, uh, brunch at that. Like Greece is moving across the street. And this was for sale. And I would say, what if we just need a bookstore and office that's the kind of, it's really, it's okay. Hey, did you read Matthew McColle's Green Life? Of course. Were you on the, I'm on the, uh, I'm on the, uh, I'm on the best. Were you, uh, were you impressed by how much catch, how much he likes catch up? Uh, and that crazy. I thought there was more of green's in the books than I hoped really. Uh, yeah, I, he asked me to blur it, but I'm on the back. Uh, I had one that stressed something that really isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation isolation but a parenting question every day. For real. Yeah. Okay now. That's what I do. One of the journals I do, I have, I need a group. That's great. That's the best way to hold yourself accountable because you get so doable. Yeah. Yeah, I do this one. I just write one sentence a day and I've done it for five years on one and then I finish it. And now I'm on the 10th year of the second one. So every day for 10 years I've write one thing. It's really cool because I can go through it. Things are bad. And do we have anything on one line a day during this? But the idea is like, it's like, oh, on June 1st, last year, June 1st, the year before. You guys see the rhythms of your life. You're like, oh, I'm a God to my children. Or, oh, that's yeah. One line a day with a, yeah, that's the, that's the, that's the, the, so the, this is this idea, but it's like a parenting version. And then this is just a general one. So you're just like, you would just be like, uh, what's the date today? 23rd. I'd be like, so I'd like for June, January 23rd. You'd be like, show came out, debuted number, shoot on Netflix, like feeling good. And then so it'd be cool. Like next year, you're just doing some wrench. Oh, that was exactly a year ago. And then the third year, you're like, you know, and then you're fourth and you're like, I forgot. You know, that I like. Oh, can I, I want to get this to my daughter, Georgia. I don't want right, but Georgia will. This is perfect. Yeah. And so that's like a parenting version of the same thing. Oh, wow. I'm going to be a better parent this year considering my daughters watching my TV show about them come out. We're not in love with it. Oh, they didn't like it. They don't like it. It's weird when you're, I mean, it uses their names, right? It uses their names and it's, and it's, it's kind of be really weird to see someone playing you when it's not your life. And then you see a story that wasn't yours. And then they liked it. Like it's really good. And it's really well done. It's just very uncomfortable. Yeah. And you're like, well, do you want to go to college? I mean, if you want to finish college, then deal with that uncomfortableness. Go to a bar and get rid of it. Or I'll send you a one-line a day journal, Georgia. Yeah. Thanks so much for listening. If you could rate this podcast and leave a review on iTunes, that would mean so much to us. And it would really help the show. We appreciate it. And I'll see you next episode. Bye.