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Why You’ll Never Own a Home (The Truth About the Economy) | Sam & Braeden Sorbo | DSH #1846

22 min
Mar 4, 2026about 2 months ago
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Summary

Braeden and Sam Sorbo discuss the death of the American dream, focusing on housing affordability, K-shaped economic inequality, and systemic barriers preventing younger generations from achieving homeownership. They also address school board conflicts through their Parents Demanding Justice Alliance and critique how society prioritizes wealth accumulation over relationships and family values.

Insights
  • The median home-buying age has shifted to 39, and only ~30% of Gen Z will own homes versus nearly 0% projected for Gen Alpha, indicating structural economic collapse of homeownership accessibility
  • K-shaped economy deliberately prioritizes asset holders over asset-seekers through immigration policy, corporate home purchases, and historical subprime lending, creating intentional wealth stratification
  • School systems have centralized power away from parents, enabling institutional capture by ideological actors; decentralization to parental control is presented as the solution
  • Cultural shift from intrinsic success metrics (relationships, purpose) to extrinsic metrics (money, fame) is driving delayed marriage, reduced childbearing, and OnlyFans participation among Gen Z
  • Federal Reserve's separation from gold standard (1971) enabled unlimited currency printing, causing persistent inflation that compounds housing unaffordability across generations
Trends
Generational wealth gap widening: asset ownership becoming exclusive to older generations and corporations, pricing out millennials and Gen Z entirelyInstitutional grooming concerns driving parental activism and school board conflicts as parents demand control over educational content and curriculumOnlyFans as economic desperation: 10% of Gen Z participating in sex work due to limited traditional income opportunities and false narratives of easy moneyHomeschooling renaissance as alternative to centralized public education, with homeschoolers testing 25% higher than public school peersDecentralization movement gaining traction across finance (Bitcoin), education (homeschooling), and governance (parental control of schools) as response to institutional corruptionDelayed family formation: marriage and childbearing postponed indefinitely due to financial prerequisites and career prioritization, reducing birth ratesCorporate real estate consolidation: Fortune 500 companies purchasing single-family starter homes, removing inventory from individual buyersStudent debt as systemic usury: $40K loans ballooning to $100K+ through interest, creating generational debt slavery and marriage burden-sharing
Topics
Housing affordability crisis and homeownership accessibilityK-shaped economy and wealth inequalityFederal Reserve monetary policy and inflationGold standard vs. fiat currency systemsSchool board governance and parental controlContent moderation in schools and grooming concernsOnlyFans and sex work as economic desperationHomeschooling vs. public education outcomesStudent loan debt and usuryAmerican dream viability for Gen Z and Gen AlphaImmigration policy and housing market impactCentralization vs. decentralization in institutionsFamily formation delays and birth rate declineBitcoin and decentralized currencyPurpose-driven education and intrinsic motivation
Companies
Federal Reserve
Discussed as foundational cause of inflation and currency devaluation since 1913 Jekyll Island meeting; separation fr...
OnlyFans
Platform enabling sex work participation; 1.4M creators (1.2M Gen Z women) selling bodies for income, with most earni...
Fortune 500 companies
Criticized for purchasing single-family starter homes, removing inventory from individual buyers and contributing to ...
People
Braeden Sorbo
Co-host; 24-year-old author with recent book launch discussing generational economic barriers, homeschooling benefits...
Sam Sorbo
Co-host; mother and homeschool educator discussing school board conflicts, parental rights, and institutional capture...
Abraham Lincoln
Referenced for creating greenbacks during Civil War to avoid 60% interest loans from banks, establishing precedent fo...
Richard Nixon
Credited with removing US from gold standard in 1971, enabling Federal Reserve to print unlimited currency and causin...
Robert Breedlove
Bitcoin expert mentioned as knowledgeable source on decentralization and cryptocurrency that Sam Sorbo has interviewed
Charlie
Referenced as organizer of AmFest event with 30,000 attendees; built significant legacy and movement
Quotes
"The American dream was that you have a family. You go to college. You get a job. You find a spouse. You get married. You have kids. You give them the future that you had. That doesn't exist anymore."
Braeden Sorbo
"We've prioritized the asset holders over those who are trying to achieve those assets. We have a K-shaped economy right now."
Braeden Sorbo
"Success is relationships. Money is a piece of it, but success is relationships."
Braeden Sorbo
"A century ago, a young man could get a starter job and support a family of four. My grandpa supported a family of seven on a middle school teacher's salary and a golf course manager job in the summers."
Braeden Sorbo
"The schools have taught all the parents they're too stupid to do it. But it's not true. The parents should be the number one educators of their children."
Sam Sorbo
Full Transcript
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So we have a K-shaped economy right now. okay guys we are rolling all right we are at amfest day three here with brayden who just had a successful book launch and his mother sam who's with the parents demanding justice alliance thanks for joining us have you guys ever done a show together we've done a couple interviews together we've we've had uh i don't usually let him say anything it's true i just sit there and try to look good which is weird because that's kind of her job but you know he was very outspoken on our And I appreciated it. It was fun. It was a lot of fun back at SAS. And now this one with 30,000 people to impact. Look at this, Max. Crazy. You can't even walk through the crowd. It's so death. It's death. Yeah, look at what Charlie's built. It's incredible, right? It really is amazing, this legacy that he's leading. And the feeling here of people just here to be supportive of Charlie and what his mission was and stuff. Yeah, it's inspiring. I know you guys are having your battles. Talk to me about the Parents Demanding Justice Alliance. What's going on with that? So we've got some situations in our schools where they're putting people in the house. In front of the kids and some parents are they are offended by that or they don't want that for their children. And unfortunately, they bring it to the school boards and the school boards are on board with it. And so they've targeted the parents. So they've gone after them. They've trying to destroy their reputations. They launch campaigns to leave lots of negative reviews on their businesses or they go to their employers and say, you have to fire this person. We have one professor who lost all of her extra professorial duties because the school board went after her because she remarked that they had a book in the school that they were putting in front of children that had p***. Wow. And, of course, the first step to grooming a child is to show them p*** because it desensitizes them to the p*** act, and that's what they've been doing. As a parent, did you have a no p*** rule in the household with your children? I didn't have the rule. They just didn't have access to stuff, right? Yeah, I know you want a band. I think we talked about it last time. Yeah, oh, I would be in total favor of a complete band of people. Because it's not so much that, you know, look at OnlyFans. 10% of Gen Z is on OnlyFans. I think there's 1.4 million total creators. 1.2 million of which, in terms of women, there are some male creators too. But 1.4 million female creators on OnlyFans. 1.2 million of which are in Generation Z. Which is roughly 10% of the entire population. But you have a problem with men consuming it too. right and i blame the men who are consuming it more than the women who are creating it i blame both parties because both parties are at fault but the women are fulfilling the need right there is a demand for and there's young men money and they go to school and they learn that money is the highest value and so anything to make money and is like the easiest way to make money it is and it's what it really is the ultimate end goal of the feminist movement which started with men and women are equal they should be equal they should be treated as equal they're equal in the eyes of God, they should be equal in the eyes of society. And then it devolved into, you know, it started with, you should be able to work a job. You should be able to vote. And now it is, you don't even need to work a job. Just go sell your body online. It started with women are objects. And that's terrible. We should fix that. Into now women are objects, but they control their hours. So it's not a bad thing anymore. And it's terrible for me because nobody should be inherently treated as such. And yet these, unfortunately, people are devaluing themselves in the eyes of society. Well, and because the industry is so prevalent, it legitimizes the treating of women in that way, the objectifying of women. It legitimizes it. So as long as it's monetary, it's like cool. Yeah. As long as they decide it for themselves, it becomes acceptable. Here's the crazy part about it. The women think it's easy money to make money on OnlyFans, but not a lot of them make money. So they're selling their bodies. I've never tried it, so I can't count. I speak to the top. Thank God. I have the top OnlyFans girls on my show sometimes, so they talk to me about it. And most women don't make that much on OnlyFans. No, they- We talk a lot on this show about taking risks and trying to get ahead. 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And then there are the few that are like raking. Yeah, it's like any industry. And they have managers. And the managers manage their accounts. They take it up, right? And so those are the pimps, right? And so somehow we legalized. Yeah, but what I'm saying is these girls are selling their bodies. Some of them only make a couple hundred bucks. A couple thousand bucks. They're sold the dream of you can have the money and the financial freedom. and obviously it doesn't work. It's the same in any sort of industry, just obviously with a little bit less respect, self-respect. And you have the people who are successful and those are the ones that are platform. Those are the ones that are given the voice and they're like, wow, look how much money I make. And young girls see that and they go, oh my gosh, I could have financial freedom too. And it's not even that bad when in reality, it is self-destructive. I hate to draw parallels, but Hollywood. Hollywood's the same thing. Most of the people in Hollywood work a second job. And they make up a story about the people who have succeeded, that it was somehow overnight they were discovered at a diner somehow and somebody just thought I gonna take this person and pluck them out of you know nothingness and make them a star It is it the dream of all the young people you ask you know a decade ago all these kids in middle school or even grade school what they wanted to be and you would get answers like firefighter astronaut police officer you know what I mean chef like they had aspirations they don't anymore you ask a kid in middle school or elementary school what he wants to be and they'll say famous because they have this idea that anyone can become famous which is true to a degree but what are the odds that it's going to become. But also that they equate fame with money and they equate money with success because they went to school and they learned that money is success. That's the definition of success in school. And that's the, that's, I would say a foundational problem that we have in our culture today is that we've all gone to school for 13 years and we've been taught that money is the definition of success. And so if you have to step on grandma to get that extra buck, that's, fair game. I mean, grandma's grandma, she's expendable, but that money, that's the proof of who you are as an individual. And it's very sad because then when you reach an older age of, you know, 50 or 60 and you haven't made so much money, you feel like a failure. And it's a setup when we ought to know that success is relationships. Yeah. I think money is a piece of it, right? Right. The Bible says money is not the root of evil, but the love of money is. Yes. Right. So that's where people fall astray is they get so sucked into needing that that monetary. And don't get me wrong. I'm 24 years old. Nice. I want to have money to buy a house. I want to be able to afford the American dream as it falls farther and farther out of my grasp. I can also understand, though, that it's not necessarily how much money I can make, but what I do with that money. Right. Because you can have hundreds of millions of dollars. But if you are a terrible person, then that money is going to waste. nothing is going to happen with it. And this isn't, you know, some, some, uh, you know, go give all your money away, go live homeless or whatever, because you made her what it's not a shaming of the people who are successful or are wealthy. It's more so the fact that people who have the love of money as the root of their fiber, their very core being, that is where it becomes twisted. And that is where it can become dangerous. And I think if you, if you just sort of take money out of the equation, success is really defined by relationship. It should be because at the end of life, you're not thinking, I wish I made a better deal on that house or on that car or whatever. You're surrounded by your loved ones, hopefully. And that's the definition of your life. Yeah. Whereas, and money is sort of secondary to that. It can factor into, you know, how well you live and how you do in your life and stuff. But you can't buy friends. People try to, but yeah. Yeah. And then if you look at very successful people and we see them, the ones that are very successful who have a lot of friends appear more successful to us than the ones who are just spending money. Wow. That's an interesting point. It's true, though. Relationships are very important, right? It's like you see a guy with 10 kids and a wife that loves him. That's wow. His kids all have kids. And everyone comments, man, he's a rich man. It's true. It doesn't matter what his bank account looks like. He's won. That guy is winning right now. Yeah, he won the race. Yeah. Last time you came on the show, we had a viral clip. You said the American dream is dead. Do you still believe that? Yeah, wholeheartedly. The American dream was killed. You look at the median age of owning a household today. The median age of household owners is, I think, 60. I don't really chase trends anymore. I just want clothes that work, feel good and last. I've stopped buying a lot of clothes and started buying better ones. Stuff that fits right, holds up and I actually wear. That's why I've been going with Quince. They've got basics I actually use, organic cotton sweaters, clean polos, lightweight jackets, stuff that holds up to daily wear and still looks good. The quality's solid and everything's built to last. What makes Quince different is how they do it. They work directly with top factories, cut out the middleman, and you're not paying for brand markup, just quality clothing. 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We're not allotted that same dream. And it's because what we've done as a country is we've prioritized the asset holders over those who are trying to achieve those assets, right? So we have a K-shaped economy right now. everyone who owns assets houses silver gold they're feeling great because as we print dollars as inflation goes up their value of their projects of their of their assets goes up as well the people who can't buy those assets are being pushed out even more and so it's not that the american dream was dead it's that we've intentionally made it harder for people in my generation and the generations previous i mean i think i saw a study said like 30 percent of gen zers will own a home one third of people in gen z will own their home the rest will rent and then gen alpha the gen generation after me it says that practically none of them will be able to own a house wow why is that why is that something that is controversial for either side people should be looking at that going we need to fix this this is a serious problem we should work together to address these issues and make housing affordable and yet we're not we're prioritizing the wrong things there's this new technology floating around that people cannot stop talking about it's called the light system. 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Also, before the housing bubble, we prioritized low-income people with no-income mortgages, so they purchased the homes that they couldn't afford, which skyrocketed the price of homes, and bust the market. So that was a whole upheaval of the market way back then, which sort of precipitated all of this. It was all intentional. The whole plan with that was you look at the bubble. Where is housing gone since then? Nowhere but up, right? That bubble popped and it dropped for a year. Right. And it skyrocketed up. The rates in 2007 aren't even comparable to 2025. And that's what we're looking at again, except we're not looking at a pop where a bank is going to go under because they're giving subprime mortgages and terrible loans to people. we're looking at a pop in the sense that we're going to print a bunch of money and houses are going to become even more expensive. So we're not even going to get the opportunity for a quick rush to get something cheap. It's just going to go up. And then there's the secondary inflation that nobody really talks about that he sort of alluded to in that a century ago, a young man could get a starter job, a starter position basically, and support a family of four. That was actually... I don't really chase trends anymore. I just want clothes that work, feel good and last. I've stopped buying a lot of clothes and started buying better ones. Stuff that fits right, holds up, and I actually wear. That's why I've been going with Quince. They've got basics I actually use, organic cotton sweaters, clean polos, lightweight jackets, stuff that holds up to daily wear and still looks good. The quality's solid and everything's built to last. What makes Quince different is how they do it. They work directly with top factories, cut out the middleman, and you're not paying for brand markup, just quality clothing. And they only partner with factories that meet high standards for craftsmanship and ethical production. 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That's Shopify.nl. doable yeah it was that was doable my grandpa wasn't like the lap of luxury it does my grandpa had five kids five kids so a family of seven he supported on a middle school teacher's salary and a golf course manager during the summers they didn't like live luxuriously you know what i mean they weren't flying private or anything but that was a family of his own home he owned his own home his wife didn't have to work his wife she stayed home she took care of the family they built a house They had a primary on neighbors. And that's so that was the American dream. Yeah. And they've been priced out. The youth have been priced out of that, not by just inflation of the banking kind, I guess, but by the inflation of the fact that women are working and diluting the job market. And so jobs are just less expensive. It's easier to hire. And it's even easier to hire. So now you need now you have to have two people working in order to afford a family of five. Well, one person is able to. Yeah. And that's also a deterrent to having children. Absolutely. Also, the deterrent to having children is this idea that money is the highest value. And you shouldn't have children until you have a ton of money. And, right, this idea that if you don't have all your savings and everything in order, you shouldn't have children. It's prolonging. We're prolonging having children because we tell everybody you need to be financially successful to get married. You shouldn't get married until you're in college. and then they don't want to quit their careers so they don't want to raise their children because they've been trained to love their career before they love their children. I mean, it's very sad. It's the destruction of the family. Well, we're prioritizing late marriages too, right? And so imagine if I am 26, 27, 28, 29 and I build my own stuff and my future wife is also building her own stuff. We never fully merge because neither one of us wants to give up and make that sacrifice because marriage isn't, you know, compromises. If you compromise, you'll have regret. It has to be a sacrifice and neither one wants to make the sacrifice because both of us have been conditioned by society to go achieve that level of success before doing anything else. Let's talk, if you don't mind, just briefly about sacrifice because we don't understand the word sacrifice because in school we're taught that sacrifice means a loss. But it's not. You sacrifice something for something so it's a net gain because otherwise if it wasn't for something better it wouldn't be a sacrifice. You wouldn't do the sacrifice. You would say, no, I'm not going to sacrifice this for that. So what he's talking about is you sacrifice the self to the marriage because the marriage is greater than each of the selves separately. Yeah. But we don't look at the world that way anymore. We think sacrifice and we experience loss before we even make the sacrifice. Right. That's interesting. Well put. Yeah. I think it's needed on both sides. Right. A little sacrifice. I've seen stats on a lot of women are in debt from college and then the male will have to, when they get married, inherit that debt sacrifice. Well, there was a post I saw just yesterday. A woman got a $40,000 loan. That same loan, by the time she paid it off, cost her over $100,000 to pay off. That is $70,000 in interest. It's usury. It's usury. And by the way, who convinced her to get that loan? Yes, who convinced her to get that loan? Who gave her that loan and who charged her that interest? That is intentional destruction. That the government has designed in our schools. It's a system of debt, usury, and enslavement. sadly yeah and usury is forbidden in the bible is that the entire idea of christianity is christians aren't supposed to charge other christians interest on loans right so if we had a system that was built on a moral foundation this wouldn't be happening because you would go to me and say hey brayton i need a hundred bucks to go fill a tank or whatever people do and i would give you it's it's it's incredibly prevalent in obviously the banking system i mean you look at the foundation of the federal reserve and uh take lincoln's greenbacks during the civil war right they needed the banks were like, we'll give you loans, we'll charge you 60% interest. And that's why the greenbacks were created by Lincoln, was to create the currency so that they didn have to take the loan because gold ran the system And so Lincoln went and he said look we not gonna to take your loans Instead we create our own currency We back it by the federal government We say that this is how it going to run We're going to produce it. And they did. They set an amount. I think it was like $400,000. They printed that and that became the currency that got them through the Civil War. The banks didn't like that. And so afterwards, the Federal Reserve was founded. This is, you know, 50 years after at the Jekyll Island meeting with Senator Albright. Senator Albright, he got a bunch of JP Morgan and you got all these very powerful bankers together, they created the Federal Reserve. And it was because of the foundation of the Federal Reserve where they said we need a centralized bank to harbor all of the currency in America to make sure everything is good, that it was passed. And it eventually led to us being taken off of the gold standard by, was it Nixon? To make sure everything is good. Everything's good. Wasn't it Nixon who took us off the gold standard in 1971? I believe it was. Yeah, and so it was Nixon's taking us off of the gold standard and really the Federal Reserve's foundation, the inception from the beginning that is the reason why we're here, the reason why inflation has run rampant. Because you look at inflation back 100 years ago when the Federal Reserve existed, but we were still backed by gold. And as long as gold stayed and remained its value, you couldn't inflate the dollar. Once they were separated, you could do whatever you wanted with this. I don't really chase trends anymore. I just want clothes that work, feel good, and last. I've stopped buying a lot of clothes and started buying better ones. Stuff that fits right, holds up, and I actually wear. That's why I've been going with Quints. They've got basics I actually use, organic cotton sweaters, clean polos, lightweight jackets, stuff that holds up to daily wear and still looks good. The quality's solid and everything's built to last. What makes Quince different is how they do it. They work directly with top factories, cut out the middleman, and you're not paying for brand mark off just quality clothing. And they only partner with factories that meet high standards for craftsmanship and ethical production. Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com slash dsh for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's quince.com slash dsh. Now available in Canada too. Free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash dsh. Starting a business means wearing many hats. designer, marketer, manager, while chasing your vision. Shopify powers millions of businesses with tools to build beautiful stores, create content and market with ease. From inventory to shipping, everything runs smoothly. If you're ready to sell, you're ready for Shopify. Sign up for your one-euro trial today at shopify.nl. That's shopify.nl. That's the idea behind Bitcoin, is it's in limited supply. That supply will never change. That's all there is. I love that your mom knows about Bitcoin. She does. Plus, she knows Robert Breedlove, and he's a pretty knowledgeable guy. You got us at Bitcoin? Well, we both believe in decentralization, and I believe in decentralized education and school. I don't believe in school, right? Whether decentralizing is insolidate things, it leads to, because power corrupts, power corrupts absolutely, and absolute power corrupts, right? So it's once you centralize everything, you give way to somebody taking advantage of that power and doing something nefarious with it. Right. That's correct. So with schools, do you want the power to go back towards the principal of the school instead of the city, the state, the federal? It should be the parents. It should really be the parents that control the schools. That's how it used to be, right? And the problem is that the schools have taught all the parents they're too stupid to do it. But it's not true. the parents should be the number one educators of their children, the primary educators of their children, and then the schools can be secondary to that. But the schools have taken the primary seat and they're driving the boat now, and the parents are hanging on for dear life. And that's why the Parents Demanding Justice Alliance were seeking restitution for some parents who have been targeted by their school boards. How dare the school boards come after the parents? but they do dare because no one's doing anything for the parents now. So we're demanding, we're actually going, we've gone to the DOE, the DOJ. We're talking with them. We're getting great language, but no action yet. And we need some action. It's true. I mean, you have people in the school board who don't even have kids, right? So what message are we sending when anybody can have an influence on another person's children? Well, the problem is, you know, if you want money, where do you go? you rob a bank. If you want to have sex with children, where do you go? You go where all the children are collected. And that's what we're seeing today. We're seeing grooming of the children in the schools. And the school boards seem to not want to do anything to ameliorate that. In fact, they're facilitating it, which, I'm sorry, puts them in the spotlight. How did you feel about your schooling experience? Did you go to private? I was homeschooled. She was my teacher, so I can't say anything negative. that's no it was so i thoroughly enjoyed homeschooling and i'll be homeschooling my own kids when i have them right one day if the lord gives me them the freedom that comes from homeschooling obviously you know 60 years ago when there was like a couple homeschool kids that were all the weirdos yeah you have you have all the jokes but you look at how homeschoolers test what's it 25 percent better better than their public school peers no there's something to be said about giving a child the creative freedom to pursue his dreams right when you give them the room. My sister, for example, when she was three or something, came to my mom and she said, I want to draw. And so my mom said, five. She goes, draw 15 minutes a day. My sister started drawing hours a day. Now at 20 years old, she is doing these amazing designs for people, all completely self taught. Hasn't taken a single class. She taught class, right? So she at 20 years old is drawing better than people who go to school for this because it was a passion that she pursued. It It was something that she took seriously and she was given the freedom to do that without the restraints that the school would have imposed on her. So this nation was founded on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Happiness is not the term that we have today. The happiness of the founders was fulfilling your purpose. And so if you allow a child to discover his or her purpose and then pursue that purpose, that happiness, they will teach themselves anything that they want. because education is actually driven by curiosity. It's not driven by school. Yeah, for sure. Well, guys, thanks for your time. It's been a pleasure. We'll link your socials below and your book is out now, right? Yep, the book is out now. Everyone can go to sorbostudios.com for all the information that'll have both her and my stuff. Awesome. Check them out, guys. Peace. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you. manager while chasing your vision. Shopify powers millions of businesses with tools to build beautiful stores, create content and market with ease. From inventory to shipping, everything runs smoothly. If you're ready to sell, you're ready for Shopify. Sign up for your one euro trial today at shopify.nl. That's shopify.nl.