06-11-26 Part Two - FIFA, Rush & Platner

Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning. I got a question. Do I have to pretend to be a soccer fan now for the next couple of weeks? Do I have to fake it? I'm not going to be. Okay. I'm not going to be. Look to all the soccer fans. All right. Great. You enjoyed that. It's like and quit when you're inside the U.S. don't call it football. This you plan to replace American football. Well, some of the big games are being played at Dallas Stadium at Dallas Stadium. Yeah. Where is that, Gary? It must be in Dallas. If it's Dallas Stadium, people of Arlington to not too pleased about that. Oh, come on, Arlington. You had a good run of the foreigners committing. These are stadium to Dallas Stadium. Who are these foreigners coming in? Back when the stadium was in Irving. We're in Dallas with the Cowboys. No, you're not. I kept seeing news stories. There they are. They're covering up AT&T Stadium. It's now going to be Dallas Stadium, even though it's in Arlington. All right. Wow. You know, it's and and and honestly, the the argument, you know, it's, you know, with the people of, well, you know, it's the most popular sport outside the U.S. I don't live outside the U.S. I don't care. There are many things that are popular outside the U.S. I don't care. And if you love it, I also don't care. Good for you. Enjoy it. You should enjoy it. I don't need to pretend to enjoy it. I just don't. You know, by the way, with the with the with the with the the stars saying they're going to move to what is it, Plano? Yeah. And then the it's funny because people kept saying the Mavs aren't moving out of Dallas. They're still in the Dallas proper. They're just not going to be downtown. Yeah. The best one I saw the other day was the sixth floor museum is moving to Plano and Dealey Plaza is moving to Plano. And it'll be on the fourth floor probably. We didn't have room on the six. Sorry. By the way, when it comes to men's soccer, if I wanted to see a bunch of guys you know, in one venue running around not scoring, I'd go to a rush concert. Well, that's where I'll be two weeks from tomorrow. So well, and also this is this is, you know, with with anacondrums. And by the way, everything coming out of the LA Forum show the other night, Governor DeSantis even commented on it. He said, you can never replace Neil, but you can certainly have a successor, the proper successor, something to that effect. And Governor DeSantis, you're absolutely right on that. And I'm watching and these are amateur videos, but I watched them do the entire suite of 2112. It was unbelievable. But it's also the first time that the other two guys in Rush, Alex and Gatti have had someone say to them, Hey, there's an attractive woman backstage. They said, I saw the other day it was like, Oh, finally, there's a woman at a rush show. Yeah, it's like, first time ever. And she's on stage. Well, and all the guys in the audience, because here's the thing when you see the, I think you saw the same one I saw Tom Sawyer. And this is the show on at the LA Forum. So, you know, it's a big, big deal. And she crushed it. I mean, I mean, that was one of the, one of the reasons is, you know, when, because I actually got tickets. I was just, it was funny. They came up for sale and it said, you know, I've got the city mastercard. Yeah. And I've looked at other concerts before I, it's never done it. I couldn't get in for anything. Right. And all of a sudden I do it and it goes, you got two seats. If you want them here, they are. And I went, well, these are perfect. Like first row of the balcony at, at whatever they're going to be calling the arena and for a word now, because we was Dickies are changing it. But you know, when they made that, that's like 15,000. They made that arena, you know, the whole end zone crumbles back to put a stage in there. Right. It's not like you have it a whole, the, the whole end zone behind you and, you know, where, where nobody sits. It goes right into that. So there's extra seating, but they made that arena to be acoustically perfect. Right. And, you know, for a larger, they consider one of the best arenas in the world to see a show. I saw Trans-Siberian Orchestra there a couple of years ago. It was perfect. Yeah. I mean, it was just you, I'm like, they have to be lip syncing. This cannot be real. It just sounded so good. But when the tickets were there, I went and I'm not, I don't own one rush out and you're growing up in Buffalo. You know, we heard Rush before anybody. Yeah. Well, for me, I mean, I was steeped and fly by night and in 2112. I mean, I, I never had to buy, I never had to buy any rush because it was always on the radio. But what got me was what got a lot of people just could never get by Giddy's voice. Hey there. I'm Paula Pan. I help people make the smartest money decisions possible. If you don't control your money, it controls you. You're not in control of your finances. You have to look outside of yourself to live the life that you want. You're not in control. You're like, like, what is it that you actually want? Money should follow the dreams and goals because sometimes you make the dream and goal the money and you've overworked yourself and you've exceeded what you've needed for the actual thing you want. Sometimes we forget, like, what's the actual thing you want? Afford anything. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. I liked it early on. I liked it actually throughout the career. I think on the live shows, there's, it's very clear. There are certain notes, you know, you can't hit at a certain age. The one thing that it appears that they're not doing is live auto correct, live pitch correct, which a lot of bands do. There was, you know, back in the day, there was lip syncing going on by a lot of bands, but Giddy's singing live and, you know, which is fine. There are some notes I think he recognizes he can't hit. So he sings like the, the alternate, which would be, you know, the version of it basically hitting the notes that he can hit. And it's, it's almost like singing harmony, the harmony version. And that's, that's good for me. I don't think I need needed to see them live again. I knew there was going to be a lot of press about this and a lot of videos. I've seen them, I don't know how many times over the years, three or four, I think is, is the count. I know I have tickets for my ticket stub still for three of the shows, but I think I saw ultimately four. Well, I was a big fan of hers when she played in, in Jeff Beck's, I'm a huge Jeff Beck fan. Yeah. And, and probably was harder than, than quite frankly, you know, we trying to feel the shoes of Neil Peer. We talked about that, you know, to play for him. It was, it's so, you know, I said it when Jeff Beck passed away. There are so many techniques that you could try and steal from people like Eddie Van Halen, the guitar greats, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimi Hendrix. You know, all of that. By the way, those that may not know, Jimi Hendrix was Mitch Mitchell's guitar player, the drummer, Mitch Mitchell, the drummers always say, Jimi Hendrix was his guitar player, not the other way around. He wasn't the drummer for Hendrix. But if you look at the greats and you look at the techniques, nobody, there, there are a handful of them where you can't duplicate it. There are some people that have done a great job in trying to play the songs, but Beck was one of them. I think Mark Knopfler is right in there where you just can't, you can't do what they do because of their unique style. Dire Straits. You know, it's just, yeah, and it's just unbelievable. You know, and so I, you and I were talking about it in one of our meetings the other night and it was like, that may be, if not more difficult, certainly about as difficult as trying to play Neil Peer live. Now, Neil, they talked about how difficult it was. And, you know, you've got all the, all these drummers who do these massive shows. Their final tour, which was, I think, 2015. There were things that were going on with him. We didn't know at that time that he was ill, but some other things that were going on. He had gone on a long motorcycle ride and his boots had worn blisters on his feet. And so he was, and, but he was still, he would tape him up and play every night, you know, a real trooper, but trying to, you know, as I think Governor DeSantis put it best, you're not going to, there is no replacement, but a, an honorable successor to, to that, to be able to play that show. Because she is also a technician. She's the way that Neil was. And when you, when you, if you know anything about drums, I started playing drums about the same time I started playing guitar, played drums in high school band. And I'm nowhere near the level, of course, that they are, but I have an understanding of what it takes, how much work that would be to reach her level. My gosh. Yeah, it's natural talent. Certain, but it's also the work when you've got to fit in because she's played with the greats. Yeah, it's, and, and for me, like I said, when, when I just happened to go and I went, well, you know something for me, it was really after Neil's death and I watched so many of the documentaries and I found them fascinating. Yeah. Fascinating. And then I was always, it was interesting. I was always a fan of the lyrics of subdivision. Yeah. Not that I can say, I mean that, and to me that was one of their poppy songs. But I, but I think the beginning of it is a great intro to any song. Yeah. But I loved subdivision because it talked about, it talked about alienation. It talked about peer pressure, you know, to conform and it talked about, and I know people. And I know people that, you know, the, and the song subdivision is about the fact that you grow up in a subdivision and, you know, you become, you meet the same people and what you are, you're always expected to be in that peer group. Right. And I know, kind of box cutter, kind of. Yes. I know a couple of people that actually grew up in a subdivision women. And I did not, I don't know any men that fit this, but two women, I know that even as they grew up, the expectations of their friends where they could only reach a certain level. And that level was where they were in junior high school that you could never advance and they were actually told this by their friends and parents of their friends. Look, this is where you are. And this is where you're always going to be. And I always found it fascinating and subdivision, you know, that, that whole concept, you know, related to me. But I just said, you know, always become more impressed through the years of Alex's guitar work and his production work. I'm a huge, yeah. Oh, what's the band that he does the, the, the, he produced the great guitar side of Canada called the Dave, Dave Barrett, the Dave Barrett trio. And Alex produced, I think they're two albums ago. I think it was he produced it. It's a great album. It really, really, really is. And for me, I got lost because I grew up on the border. There's a ton of Canadian bands. And for me, at that time when Rush came out, you know, it was, it was stuff like, you know, Max Webster, Chillowack. I mean, I was just into, I was into a different thing. All of that hit big in San Antonio and Del Rio and I'll still never be able to figure that out. Anybody who grew up down there back in the day in that era knows that the rock radio in San Antonio, of course, dominated. I think rock radio in Texas, along with Dallas stations, but I was listening to San Antonio stations, but Canadian bands, Moxie, Rush, all of them were getting airplay. And then I, then I got, was getting into Prague Rock. So Saga out of, out of also the Toronto area was big and it just sort of, Rush was there, but it was never, you know, it's like for me with AC, AC DC. I never bought one AC DC record. You didn't have to. They were always on, but I always thought, you know, AC DC comes out in the car and you blast it. And I would never forget working at the steel mill. And the first time I heard back in black and, you know, knew it was about Bob Scott and went, whoa, you know, it's just like, whoa. And then when it hit three in the morning when I was working third shift as a machinist at Worthington compressors in South Buffalo, this massive complex with 100, you know, 100, you know, foot ceilings and everything. There were always huge cranes coming down. And at 3am, this one station played Hell's Bells. Every single day at 3am, the bell would go, BONG. BONG. And you could hear it throughout the entire plant. Yeah. And that was just, and so those are just, but I never bought one of the records. Yeah. Yeah. And, and never, never had any interest in seeing them live. Yeah, I bought, I bought the, the Bond Scott. I saw them live twice. I bought the Bond Scott albums. Never saw them with Bond Scott. But the Brian Johnson story, you know, he was actually, they called him to do an audition. He said, well, I'm going to be in that town. You know, they, because he had been singing with Jordy and they, and Bond Scott actually brought Brian Johnson's name up before he died and said, this guy's a great singer. So they called him to audition. He goes, well, I've got to do a jingle. The jingle was for Hoover vacuums. You can still find it on YouTube. Brian Johnson from ACDC singing it. And, and I've heard some of the stuff from Jordy and you're like, okay, it's him, but it's just so different. Well, it was a different, it was a, it was a pop feel and of course different era really. But then he said, they sat him down and said, you know, when he basically was kind of picked, they said, all right, here you go. They gave him a room with a bed, a nightstand, a pen and some paper. And then he had started his own auto body shop. So he was thinking cars. And he wrote down, she was a fast machine. She kept her motor clean. The rest is history. Yeah. And interesting. Yeah. Just interest, just interesting stuff in music. But, but yeah, it'll be, it'll be fun to go. And I was, my buddy Jerry's flying in. Yeah. Jerry from Jerry and Marion Gary. He's, he's flying in. I said, yeah. And I said, I know it's going to catch off guard. I go, but I got, I pulled the ticket for a couple of tickets for rush. You want to go and he goes, yeah. And I don't think he owns a rush record either. But it was like, yeah. And I just said, as long as Getty stays away from the real high notes, I think it might be really cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's real difficult, you know, and he's not going to fake it, you know, so. We are running radio. Brought to you by FPPF. Fuel Power Max. As long as demand for their customers product remains at least somewhat stable. Owner operators in it for the long haul make direct business with customers a principal goal. 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He's just idiosyncratic. I guess he goose steps to the beat of his own drummer. But his history shows there's more than that. I mean, this guy makes, he makes Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez look like Aunt B in Mayberry. I mean, Mr. Platner's comments about black people, his cavalry attitude toward rape, his apparently a stated preference for masturbating in a poorer potty, his contempt for America. I think at one point he implied that he wished the Taliban was, were better shots to, to kill our people. This is, this is not normal. There you go. That's true. No, it is. It's not normal. I know. And he's there. Carly and I'm Gary, Gary McNamara. Welcome. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Download our red eye radio app today and listen when and where you choose. Yeah. And thank you for that. Hey, any grammatical errors I make or any stumbling, I'm old. Yeah. All right. I'm not arguing that. Noah Rothman wrote that here's the headline in National Review. Graham Platner is a very toxic masculinity stereotype. The left invented. This is just a couple of great paragraphs when you think about it. When you think about the stereotype that the left has created about men. Mm hmm. That we live in the, oh, what's the word again? Yeah, I can say plutocracy, not plutocracy. Yeah. I got mind blank here. Oh, I just thinking about it a couple of seconds ago and it's just a male dominated society, the patriarchy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole thing with the patriarchy and the patriarchy and men control and men control. When they're the ones, when they're the side on the left, right, that is pushing women out of women's sports. Right. You know, the whole, the whole patriarchy, you know, patriarchy, we've got to get rid of, get rid of the patriarchy. You know, me too has now become, he says, and Nazis, you've destroyed that. So it's more than just two things. It's also the patriarchy you've destroyed. And by the way, nobody can wear that mustache correctly except for skunk Baxter. Give it up. Right. And it's also toxic masculinity that, you know, that's what men are and especially conservative men. And the point nor Rothman's coming on, Cindy goes, everything that they made up about men, everything that they said all men were like the patriarchy, sexism, misogyny is all encapsulated in Platner. Yeah. It's like, right here. Then in the wake of the Democratic Party stumbles in 2024, the progressive political class concluded that they had alienated far too many men. Kamala Harris's defeat set off a panicky scramble to address the problem for mission structure with, with gimmicks. We just need our own Joe Rogan to compete in the mannose veer. Yeah. And if we were less wonkish, we might break through. It was self-lattery dressed up as a critique. True believers in the toxic masculinity construct seem to have taken a different approach. Give the bastards what they want. That's how you get a grand Platner. The top of the ticket in Maine embodies all the worst traits that the progressive left assume were present in all men. He's a habitual liar and a provocateur. He's crude. He's borish. He glamorizes violence for its own sake. He thinks in stereotypes. He is allegedly physically and emotionally abusive to the women in his life. Progressive spent the better part of a decade telling themselves and anyone willing to listen that all men were in their way, Platinarian. And I saw that word and I went, I don't know that word. It's an offshoot of Platner. There you go. In their own ways were Platner in Maine. They're selling the voters the vicious stereo archetype that they constructed in their own minds. Yeah. Wow. No, that's exactly it. Wow. And we didn't need to go any further than, and that was so well written, but we don't need to go any further than Tim Walz. He was the permission structure. He said it. They needed more toxic masculinity. Well, you got to have the proper mustache, number one. Then Tim could give. Yeah. No, but you're right. Only, only skunk Baxter can pull that off. Only skunk Baxter can make that happen for those that don't know guitarist or Donna Summers. But, but you know the, Wait for the email correction. By the way, that's also correct. He played with everybody. He did. He said it one time during that time he was doing so many disco songs. He and another session guitarist would call each other and say, okay, what, you know, let's try and guess the one note we would be playing all the time. We would be playing all week long because disco basically was one note. What note will it be this week? And then he got the call from the thing about him though, because it was funny. I was telling my brother about it the other day. My brother was talking, we're talking about Woodstock. He'd watch a documentary on Woodstock and I told him, I said, you know, Jeff Skunk Baxter was great friends with Jimmy Hendrix and said, Yeah, Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner was not an anti-war anthem. No, he said he goes, he goes, he was a patriot. He said, Jimmy Hendrix was a patriot. He goes, you know, yeah, he was in drugs and everything else he served. He goes, he did not buy into the anti-war stuff. Right. He goes, he was, he goes, and people didn't know it. But I knew him and I knew him well. Yeah. So what a historian he is to listen to. Oh, yeah. You know, the other thing though, because we talk about misogyny and sexism and all that, and we were talking about, you know, I'm going to the Rush concert in two weeks from tomorrow. And, you know, Annika, you know, the drummer for Jeff Beck is the drummer there. And, you know, and you hear all those, that was, or sexism or, you know, this and kind of woman. And you see people make that accusation that other people are doing it, but I don't see it. No, no, because, you know, it's like when Anne Wilson, Anne and Anne C. Wilson of Hart talked about the sexism that they got. Well, that was inside the record industry in the music business. Yeah, the exact. That was never in. That was never. I, I never, when I look back at the music that that I, you know, I like, you could, you know, if you sit there and you say, Taylor Swift sucks. Oh, then you hate women artists. No. And, you know, and I go back to all the women that I use, because I what, what I really became a fan of was really the women of Motown. Well, you know, Hart wrote Barracuda. And it was about an executive actually. Yeah. The song Barracuda was about an executive. First of the fans. I was a kid. And when I, I remember the first time listening to the dog and butterfly album. And I'm like, Oh man, I mean, it was everything was just spot on some of the stuff in the 80s. Well, they had to go ballads. You know, well, even they say there's a couple of songs they no longer perform, you know, for various reasons from, from that album. But and the fact that the only number one song they've ever had was sang by Nancy, not and. What was that? These dreams. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's, and, you know, she did a great job. But that was kind of that, that era was different for them and talks about that the MTV age though. They were like, Okay, we're doing videos now. You need to lose weight. You need to do this. Well, I actually saw the original bet. You know, what about love? I actually saw the band that made that song back in probably 79 or 80, a band called Toronto from Toronto. They're the ones, you know, Hart didn't write that song. Right. And but, but yeah. So I mean, I always, I never, I didn't have any prejudice growing up. I didn't have any prejudices at all. I mean, in music, certainly none at all. If I liked it, it was great. I didn't care. I didn't care the color of the skin. I didn't care the style. I just cared about talent. Right. Even when I was younger and someone Hart came out, I was like, Wow. But it was interesting how these women talk about the sexism that they encountered. I'm like, Where the audience know the record business. Oh, where the liberals are. Executives. At that time. Right. And, and so, but yeah, I just thought about that. We're talking about platinum and the sexism and all that, but because we had talked about, you know, it's kind of the same line. I mean, the, the liberals always say, you know, look at how many Hollywood liberals covered up the big scandal with with what's his name? The producer and, and Harvey Weinstein Harvey Weinstein and that they at that point, they all knew it. There were jokes made about it at award shows. And if you look at that, everybody in the room at those award shows had the power by then to do something about it and say something about it. And then they just didn't. And, you know, if you're young and new in the industry, you know, I believe you still have to say something. Otherwise, it's going to happen to others. But when you're powerful, people like Jane Fonda and other people, you know, and the, the comments that were made after all that came to be was like, Wait a minute. You guys had leverage at that time. You didn't need, you no longer needed Harvey Weinstein. And you could ease. And by the way, if you think you did is justice, does that not prevail over your career? I would think it would. And when I heard, when I heard, you know, some people, not a defense, but they were saying, well, when he, you know, yeah, he might have been that way, even in the 70s and the 80s, but it was more accepted back then. And I remember hearing that going, no, it wasn't. No, no, it wasn't. I worked in, you know, I worked in the bank at that time. It wasn't accepted. And I worked for Harvey Weinstein. Not a movie to be clear. Not in movies. No, at the club that he owned, the small club he owned, which was the first place the police, for example, played when they came to Buffalo. The club called stage one. I was a club DJ there. I played tunes in between the sets of the bands. And I, he probably was in there. I never met him. But that place was run. I mean, the manager ran that place. You know, it was professional. Never accepted. It was never accepted. It wasn't accepted between the employees. It wasn't accepted anywhere. And, and where I was in the seven, it was never accepted that kind of stuff. And so when they started using that as a defense for him, well, you know, it was more accepted back then. No, it wasn't. No. And, and so, but you know why I quit that job? And I quit that. It wasn't my full time job. I was helping out. I was helping out a friend of mine, the late Tom Connelly was a great, great club DJ, different than club DJs are today. This is this is mixing rock tunes back then. Yeah. It's because they they came in, they said, okay, everybody who works here has to take a lie detector test in the next 90 days, or you're gone. What? And then New York State made lie detector text lie detector tests illegal and I went, you know, they, they did it one point I think in the next six months, but I just said, Well, I'm putting in my 90 day notice. They go, what do you hide? And I go, what are you talking about? Half the records in that booth I bought, I really didn't make much money working here because you guys never had a record collection. You go in there, probably 50 of those records are mine. I go, No, I'm just not going to take a lie detector test to have a job. Well, you're going to take a lie detector test to make sure you're a good boss. And so I just, and they were just on there. Forget everybody was shocked. Everybody else. So really, I go, I'm not taking a lie detector test to stay here. It's a part time job. I'm doing it for the fun of it. Plus years from now, we'll all find out what the owner is all about. Exactly. I wish I wish I would have said, Well, right. If the owners take it, then I will do. Yeah. If Harvey doesn't, I will. If Harvey doesn't, I'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. Because he was part of Harvey and Corky stage or excuse me, Harvey and Corky's production, they brought, they were the big concert promoter and Buffalo. That's how Harvey Weinstein started. Yeah. Him and his partner Corky. And so they, I think they, they would book at the big auditorium. They own the Century Theater and they own stage one. So they had like, they had, you know, they, they booked the big arena. They booked, you know, the theater and then they booked the club. Right. And the first place the police played was there. Yeah. So right at like the week that Roxanne came out. So yeah, Aerosmith played there one time under a different name. They came in a different name and Aerosmith played there. A bunch of different great bands play there. Yeah. Yeah. So, but yeah, this whole thing about Planner, it's really interesting because now you've got three things. They can't use Nazi anymore. They can't say Republicans are Nazi because you got a real one. Yeah. And, and, and then the, the, the entire thing of, of, you know, sexism, misogyny, sorry. They own it. You guys own it now. Yep. We are Red Eye Radio. We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with Eric Hurley and Gary McNamara. We are Red Eye Radio. He's Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara in a sneezing fit. It's like, yeah, I couldn't turn on the microphone. I was sneezing. Yeah. Turn on the microphone, I was sneezing. Yeah. Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Wow. These summer allergies. Yeah. Yeah. I think mine are letting up just a little bit. So I've been better. Man. Little sense of panic. It's like Ron's pointing. Like, time to go on. Go on. And I'm like, you can't quit sneezing. Pooch, pooch, pooch, pooch. Yeah. I'm OK right now. All right. Good. 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