Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

Brandy and Julie, Golden Globes and Manifesting Greek Tragedies

69 min
Jan 13, 20265 months ago
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Summary

Heather McDonald hosts guests Brandy Howard and Julie Goldman to discuss the Golden Globes, celebrity fashion, Real Housewives drama across multiple franchises, and Amanda Orsini's controversial manifesting coaching business. The episode covers celebrity encounters at a Spotify podcast event, Golden Globes fashion critiques, and reality TV franchise updates with comedic commentary on influencer culture and wealth-building trends.

Insights
  • Ignoring negative comments and not engaging in legal battles allows scandals to fade quickly—the 'what's for dinner' principle shows public attention spans are extremely short
  • Podcast category recognition at major awards represents a significant legitimization moment for the medium, making voting choices politically and representationally significant
  • Manifesting and abundance coaching has become a mainstream monetization strategy for celebrities, repackaging traditional motivational speaking as modern self-help
  • Reality TV production is increasingly using creative narrative devices (Greek tragedies, costume games) to manufacture conflict and force cast reconciliation for show continuity
  • Height and wealth asymmetry create unique dating challenges for tall, successful women, limiting viable partner pools in celebrity circles
Trends
Celebrity coaching and masterclass monetization expanding beyond fitness/beauty into wealth manifestation and abundance mindsetPodcast category gaining legitimacy in major awards ceremonies, signaling mainstream media acceptance of audio contentGreek/classical theatrical elements being used in reality TV production to add narrative depth and force emotional reckoningGen Z terminology evolution—'Karen' being replaced with 'Jessica' as generational descriptor for millennial behaviorReality TV cast management requiring forced reconciliation narratives to maintain ensemble dynamics across seasonsInfluencer dating dynamics shaped by extreme wealth disparities and physical attribute mismatches in celebrity circlesDefamation lawsuits in celebrity relationships becoming publicity tools rather than viable legal remediesFashion at awards shows becoming increasingly experimental with sheer fabrics, botanical elements, and unconventional silhouettesReal Housewives franchise consolidation around core cast members with proven entertainment value over newcomersManifesting culture becoming mainstream wealth-building narrative in affluent female communities
Topics
Golden Globes 2026 fashion and hosting critiqueCelebrity dating and relationship dynamicsReality TV franchise cast decisions and productionManifesting and abundance coaching business modelsDefamation lawsuits in celebrity relationshipsPodcast category awards legitimacyReal Housewives of Beverly Hills dramaReal Housewives of Salt Lake City finale and reunionReal Housewives of Orange County cast changesCelebrity social media and influencer cultureAwards show production and comedy writingFashion critique and styling analysisGenerational terminology and slang evolutionWealth inequality in celebrity relationshipsReality TV narrative production techniques
Companies
Ruggable
Sponsor offering machine-washable, stain-resistant performance rugs with non-slip backing
SumUp
Sponsor providing free MTD (Making Tax Digital) solution for UK sole traders over £50k turnover
What Not
Sponsor offering live shopping app for real-time deals on makeup, clothing, jewelry, and accessories
Dyson
Sponsor featuring Hush Jet Purify air purifier for allergen and odor removal
Barclaycard
Sponsor offering 0% interest financing for up to 24 months on purchases
WOOP
Sponsor providing wearable technology for sleep, recovery, and strain tracking insights
Acorn TV
Streaming service where Jane Seymour appears in a new show that Julie Goldman watches
Crepe Erase
Skincare brand with Jane Seymour as brand ambassador for neck firming products
Spotify
Hosted podcast category event at Golden Globes honoring podcasters and nominees
Patreon
Platform where Brandy Howard and Julie Goldman host their premium podcast content
People
Heather McDonald
Podcast host discussing Golden Globes, celebrity culture, and reality TV drama
Brandy Howard
Comedy guest co-hosting episode and providing commentary on celebrity and reality TV
Julie Goldman
Comedy guest co-hosting episode and providing reality TV analysis and commentary
Jane Seymour
Attended Spotify Golden Globes event; wore same dress as Heather; appeared in Acorn TV show
Amy Poehler
Won Golden Globe for Best Podcast for her show; attended Spotify event
Nikki Glaser
Hosted Golden Globes ceremony for second year; praised for edgy but safe comedy writing
Timothy Chalamet
Won Golden Globe for Marty Supreme; dating Kylie Jenner; praised for method acting preparation
Kylie Jenner
Attended Golden Globes with Timothy Chalamet; wore gold dress with botanical necklace details
Caitlyn Jenner
Discussed Timothy Chalamet relationship with Kylie and dating challenges for wealthy women
Kendall Jenner
Addressed lesbian rumors on podcast; discussed dating challenges as tall, successful woman
Garcelle Beauvais
Attended Spotify event; appeared in Lifetime movies; praised for being gracious and likeable
Chaka Khan
Performed live at Spotify Golden Globes podcast event
Sean Penn
Attended Golden Globes; caught smoking at his table despite venue restrictions
John Krasinski
Attended Golden Globes; wore turtleneck with velvet blazer suit in sixties aesthetic
Jennifer Lawrence
Wore sheer dress with botanical flower details at Golden Globes
Kate Hudson
Wore silver dress at Golden Globes; starred in Sing Sing film; praised for best look
J. Lo
Wore sheer brown swirl dress at Golden Globes; presented at ceremony
Wanda Sykes
Made joke about Bill Maher at Golden Globes; discussed comedy writing for awards shows
Bill Maher
Attended Golden Globes; did not laugh at Wanda Sykes joke about him
Haley Bailey
Attended Spotify event; ex-husband suing her over Twitch comments about intimate details
Amanda Orsini
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member; offers $11k-$16k manifesting coaching courses
Katie Janella
Leaving Real Housewives of Orange County after two seasons; cited authenticity and representation
Bronwyn
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City cast; responded positively to Greek tragedy critique at finale
Heather Gay
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City cast; criticized for narcissism in Greek tragedy segment
Mel Robbins
Attended Spotify Golden Globes event; nominated for podcast award
Conan O'Brien
Had funny clip at Golden Globes; discussed as podcast category competitor
Quotes
"If you ignore it, if you don't comment, if you don't address it, don't clap back. Ignore the comment. There's a new show the next day. There's literally a new show the next day."
Heather McDonaldMid-episode
"I'm not opposed to it. I'm open to it. You got to say that in 2026. You can't say I would never because then it looks like you think that that is not right."
Julie GoldmanKendall Jenner discussion
"See it. Say it. Believe it. Achieve it. Be it. Embody it. Then get it."
Heather McDonald (as Amanda Orsini parody)Amanda Orsini manifesting segment
"The level of balls and you have to have a certain type of like, I don't give a fuckness to be able to smoke in a room."
Heather McDonaldSean Penn smoking discussion
"Without our sisters, we are nothing, which told this everybody like, hey, idiots, you better play in the sand with these bitches or you will be left on an island by yourself."
Brandy HowardReal Housewives of Salt Lake City finale discussion
Full Transcript
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We are calling it Stack Chips 26. Stack Chips 26? You know like you stack the chips when you're gambling? You know Drake. Yeah. We are planning on getting very rich this year. Okay, great. And are you going through Amanda's richest fuck coaching courses of Real House of Beverly Hills? Well, I wanted to but Julie's got a personal problem with Amanda apparently. So we're going to get into Amanda later and we got to talk about, we got to go in our order of week here. Okay. Which started us our fun party. I say 2026 started out with a bang because you invited us to a very like swanky, one of our other friends Jacques said it was the best party he's been to since he's here. He's been here two years now. Oh, good. So good. Well, I was thrilled to go as well. We went to the Spotify party, which was kind of honoring the podcast category for the Golden Globes. That was Thursday night. And it was very, it was a lot of executive, but there were some stars there. There were some nominees. Amy Poehler now winner. Mel Robbins. Rita Wilson. Oh, who are some other big stars? Bill Marr. Bill Marr was there. Jane Seymour. Oh, and I was. The honorary Miss the Lady. Wait, hold on. I want to go back because Jane Seymour was wearing this outfit and I had worn the same outfit as well, the same dress. And so there it is side by side. Look at that. Just two legendary. We kind of like the same colored hair. Yeah. Probably the same sized dress. Maybe she's a little smaller than I am. Did it inspire you to be a woman? Did you get rid of the dress or do you still have it in the closet? No, I still have it. It's only less than a year old. Yeah. Like you can wear it with a blazer now and make a whole new look. Yeah. With a black blazer. No one will even know it's the same dress. It's like so cute. I was. You look good with a black blazer, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it looks that good with the white blazer. I think she, yeah. I think you need like a black. I was always thinking of a silver, but you're right. I think black is better. Black would have looked like. Black blazer with like a silver button. Yeah. Welcome to fashion police. We actually are going to get into fashion police in a minute. I'm going back to our night. I just want to say that I did talk to her. Yes, I know you did. And so I just need to put that out there. The woman is stunning in person. She's tiny and stunning. And also she was irritated that one such as I, such a monster as myself would go up to even dare to speak to her. Okay. But I don't care. I loved every second of it. Witness the exchange and I did not get that. You didn't? From her. I didn't know, but you, your experience is your experience and no one can take that experience. I can't. I thought she was happy and nice to say hi. I mean, and I didn't know if you're BSing and saying like, I've never missed a day of all my children. No, no, no, Harry. She's on a new show on acorn TV that Julie does watch. I've watched every episode. What is a court? It's like a Jane Seymour. You guys like legendary actress. She's, she's, she's also crepe erase and I wanted to tell her, you know what? She was Dr. Quinn medicine woman. Yes. And she was, was she ever on a soap? She's a Bond girl. I want to say, did she start as a soap? Bond girl. She was a famous Bond girl. I don't think she was on a soap. Okay. I thought maybe she was though. Yeah. Maybe not. But she was Dr. Quinn. Yeah. But most importantly, she's from a movie called somewhere in time with a Christopher Reeve and it's one of my all time faves and also crepe erase. And I just didn't want to let her know, you know what? I don't appreciate, I want to try crepe erase. I want to try my neck firming and I don't appreciate that you subscribed me to an entire thing and now I'm into you for like 200 bucks a month. I'm not into it. I don't think she still is the brand ambassador for crepe erase. Well, I wanted to tell her that I had to call and say that, you know what? There's a one time purchase only and I just wanted to try moisturizing and I don't need like a whole thing. You just wanted to try, you never tried moisturizing before in your entire life. Not really. I haven't. So there really weren't many podcaster friends there or podcasters in general, but what was great is some of her friends were there. Jacques from Daily Mail who's been on Juicy, Scoop and we're all friends. He was there with of course, Zach Peter who we're close friends with. So we had fun with them. And then I ran into Haley Bailey who is this huge influencer and model and she was just in the news because her ex-husband Matt Callil. He's a football player. Do you know him? He's an NFL player. He is suing her because she did a live Twitch after they broke up in which she said part of the reason they broke up is that his penis was so big. I believe I read somewhere she compared it to like two Coke cans. I love this story. And that it did affect their intimacy. That really twitched in the wrong way, pun intended. And he has filed suit saying that those words of hers are really affecting his life. Her attorneys have said it's her first amendment right to share her story and her life. And also in these defamation suits, you'd have to prove that somehow get that measure tape out. Whip your dick out. Get the Coke can. And let's see what's doing. You know what? You can't win. I'm sorry. I don't know how any of you ladies out there do it. You just can't freaking win. It's either too small. It's not big enough. And now this lady's out here saying his dick is so big she can't deal with it. And he's even mad about that. He's suing. Honestly, like I can't. I just can't do it. What happened is is that they weren't just broken up. They'd been broken up for a while and he and they had gone to therapy and I found her very like authentic and the story of his, you know, enormous dick, like very, you know, touching and real. But he's married to someone new now. And so now everyone's looking at that girl like, I guess your pussy must be gaping. I don't know. Maybe that's a problem. Yeah. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe when this story came out, the current girl in his life was like, I don't want people to think know that about me. Right. But it just it's giving. And by the way, I think we should get rid of it's giving in 2026. Let's get rid of it. Okay. It reminds me of the greatest court case that has ever happened, which was Lorina Bobbitt. Better than that. Oh, Joanna Krupa versus. Oh, Romaine. Was it? No. Oh, Joanna Krupa versus Brandi Glanville. Because it was on Watch What Happens Live where it was talked about that Brandi said that someone that dated Joanna told Lisa Vanderpump who told her that she had an unpleasant smell down. She literally said she had a stinky pussy. Okay. Well, I'll try to cut. And this is where 2026 people, I've lived it. I've lived a life and I will give this advice now to everybody. If you ignore it, if you don't comment, if you don't address it, don't clap back. Ignore the comment. You mean like don't buy the smell. Just get to eat. There's a new show the next day. There's literally a new show the next day. Like even with, even with like certain housewives and stuff that have like a bad season. It's like Mary Crosby ran a cult. There's been a three part documentary around here. The audience doesn't care. They like Mary Crosby on Real House of Salt Lake City. They don't care. People will forget. But if you then address it, do a lawsuit, then it's news. Now I'm talking about it. Now someone else talking about it. Now, if you want to just let it go, who would have remembered a Twitch live stream? But what happens is the person gets one too many things. They get sucked into a Reddit, sucked into a group and they think the entire world, they think they go to Trader Joe's and people are talking about their Coke size dick. Nobody's talking about it. It like we forgot. You know what? I call it what's for dinner. You go like this. Something bad happened and everyone comments on it. And then they look up from their phone and they go, wait, what's for dinner? Where are we going to dinner? What are we having for dinner? Your Coke size dick, your odorous, nethers. It's off. It's what's for dinner. If you just wait for them to worry about where they're having dinner, it'll just now his I do believe his new wife was pissed. And that that's probably I guess why he's now doing this lawsuit. But or maybe he wanted to keep it in the news, but you're 100 percent right. And then and then she's and then she does find a thirsty lawyer. And then the lawyer is like, absolutely. You know what? This is and that now you're in this big awful thing that will be dismissed. I believe in my prediction. It will be dismissed, but now it's out there. And now every time you go anywhere in a red carpet, whatever, we're going to be zooming in on your dick size. I can't imagine a judge, a man, a woman. It's going to be like this is defamation. It's like if a man said, you know what? Her tits were too perfect. They were perky. They stood the test of time. Nipples perfect. No bra. And then it's like defamation. I dare you. Okay. I dare you. I have heard from men on different media sources, not in person, that have the curse of a giant dong. Yes. And sometimes things are too big and they have girls have broken up with them where they're just like, I can't take it. And so maybe they just don't want that out there. But obviously it was fine for her because she did stay with them for a while and got married and she's just probably, she probably thought she was doing a compliment. She probably was like, I didn't want to say he was boring and annoying. So I made a quick joke and said, whoa, his dick was too big. And now she's being so she's like, I thought I was giving you a compliment. I can't even if your dick is too big. And by the way, even if your dick is too big, it's 100% live with it. Live in the truth. Stand in the truth. Take your dick, but try to put your legs out and fucking live in the life. She's allowed to say that. That's not defamation. That is her experience. It's her truth. Yes. Just like it was my truth. It was her truth. Your truth that your dick was too big. My dick was too big. So I'm just saying like you can't, I can't with his this, it makes me go. Great. It's, it's, it's a, it's a male, you know, entitled gross thing to do. Just go and then he went right back down. Like, oh, he's like, like hot from afar because he's got his huge dick. And then he sued and I'm like, now you've got a tiny dick. Yeah. Now you're giving, you're giving small dick energy, which is bizarre because your dick is two Coke cans, which you think. That's like, that's a lot. That's a lot. I can't even drink one can of Coke. Well, I think you can. Yeah. But not two in a row. Not two in a row. Definitely. One you could do, but that's the problem. You can't have two Cokes in a row. Red Bull. I'm enjoying my Oli pops. Yeah. Thank you. Sponsored. Yeah. Here we go. Garcelle was there of, you know, now lifetime movies, everything. She's got new lifetime movies coming up all the time. And she's just total delight, looked really cute and really sweet. And was very nice to all of us. And we had so much fun listening to Chaka Khan with her. Chaka Khan did a live performance. Amazing. That's such a cute picture. You look gorgeous that night. I have your body snatched. Garcelle's face card was so, she was so pretty and so nice and gracious to everyone. Like, like I'm just like going through the Rolodex, even though I don't think I ever talk shit, but I'm like, what if I said on Juicy Scoop? Oh my God. I gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, God. But I don't think we've ever talked shit because we like Garcelle. No, I love Garcelle. And she was so nice and like, so like. And like her breakup with Sutton, it's just like, that's what it is. Like Sutton commented on the other day. She's just like, sure, I regret how things ended, but they have ended. Like they ended. They're like, whatever. Who knows if they would have, if they run into each other in a party, maybe they'll be nice. But no, I think that friendship is run. I do miss her on the show. Definitely. And we're going to get into that. Yeah, second. Then I ran into this girl is Ari Kitsaya. I think it's how you pronounce the last name. She is dating, um, young gravy, who is a huge rapper and they were there. And she has like a very, she has not only fans and she's a sexy girl, but she looks cute. She does the funniest thing, the funniest reel, cause she's so pretty. And she does these videos where it's like the girl that doesn't know she's rich and you go over to her house and she's like, oh my gosh, sorry. So dirty. And, oh my God, was it so annoying? Which did you know which lot to park in or which whatever she says, it's very funny. And then she does the whole thing of like the girl that, you know, only has guys as friends and she's like, oh my God, it was so weird. I like forgot to wear a bra today. And all of a sudden I'm like, why am I like hunched over? It's like, cause my boobs are so heavy. And I'm like, it's so funny that when she does it. So anyway, it was fun to meet her. And, oh, I wanted to let you know that there, this is the news story. Jen Z has a new name for Karen. It's called Jessica. Oh, they think that the new millennial. So Karen is a Jen Z, but a millennial. Is it Jessica? Is it Jessica? So no, it's okay, Jessica. Yeah, because Jessica is the most popular name for the millennial age. Oh, all right. So that's now that I'm fine with that. Okay. Yeah, like, all right, you know what? Save it, Jessica. Yeah. You know what? Jessica. Jessica. One thing I liked about, okay, Karen was the like alliteration of. Yes. Okay, Karen. Yeah. So I wish there was a just no Jessica or something with a J, but I do. I do like it. I like it. No, that's not it. Not Jesus. But I was just like, Jesus, Jessica. Jesus, Jessica. No, GM at Jessica. Jump. No, Jesus. I don't think it's going to stick. Jesus, Jessica. I don't think so either. What is it? Fetch. It's just not going to happen, Jessica. Stop making fetch happen. It's Karen is better because of the. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Karen. Yeah. 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I don't want to see her anywhere else. I want to see her Golden Globes every year, let her just work on it all year. Yeah, I think that she will. Like I consider doing it for like 10 years straight. Yeah, I think she's the she's the American Ricky Dervais. Yeah, she's really good at it. She's really, really good. Saying something like people are, you know, someone walked up to her before the show a couple of days before the show. Should the celebrities be scared? And she's like, no, I hope not. We work really hard to make it that it's funny, but it's not to that place where you'd be like devastated. What was said about you, you know? And so I do think that's she has mastered that with her cadence and with her team of writers and stuff. And so people do feel like it's a safe space, but it's still edgy enough. Can I ask you an industry question? Yes, dear. So you saw the clip of her with like Leo, which was great. Yeah. So if you guys haven't seen it, Google it or whatever. Basically, she says something about about him having a young girlfriend. And then she goes, I'm sorry to make that joke, but literally there's nothing else we know about your personal life, except that you date much younger women. That's all anyone knows about you. And I really thought that was like a really clever, funny joke. Yes. Well, first she makes the joke. That was all you accomplished all of that before your girlfriend turned 30. Right. That was it. Yeah. But then her apology, which was sort of cool, it wasn't an apology, but it was like, you know, yeah, like, don't be mad. Like that's all I Googled you. There's nothing else. Yeah, I had to do a low hanging fruit joke. But then the joke is because there's nothing else about you, which is so we don't know if you're into checkers. We don't know if you like, you know, crafting. Yeah. If you are a birdwatcher, we don't know shit, except that you date really young attractive women and they keep staying the same age while you age. Yeah. His reaction, I thought was funny. Yeah. Cute and charming and perfect. I mean, he's the ultimate movie star. So then when Wanda Sykes comes out. Yeah. So my question for you. So Wanda Sykes comes out, she makes a joke at like Bill Maher's expense, which of course we all love to see. Yeah. Bill Maher was also at the Golden Globes event. He did not laugh. He was very uncharitable. I felt it made it still made it funny. It I didn't have. I thought it was really funny. Or a joke was just like, and Bill Maher, you do so, Bill Maher, you do so much, but could you do less? It's such a simple joke that if it was said about me, I would laugh at that. Yeah. That's just like you're out and about. We just see you talking all the time and whatever, you know, you can take it however you want to the extreme or just that. Like, could you do could just, you know, I thought it was funny. I wish you do less, but he didn't laugh. So but did her team, Nikki Glaser and the Golden Globes team write that for Wanda Sykes or did Wanda Sykes write that? Do you think? I think sometimes it's both. When I've done, obviously not levels of this. When I've been a presenter and stuff, the writers will give you jokes. Okay. The writers of the show will give you jokes when you present and you can take them, tweak them, not use them at all. Okay. So you never know. Great with it. Yeah. Like it was. So then our boy, Timothy Chalamet, he did win. He also won for critics choice. So he won for the Marty Supreme and Kylie Jenner's dress was to die. It was a gold dress and she had her hair and a slick ponytail, which was like just the perfect hair and these like great big diamond earrings that were like kind of going up her ear. And then I don't know if she designed this dress or how she found the stress or what, but to add these like gold, um, almost like necklaces that kind of went around the shoulder. It was just a really gorgeous, unique look that just showed off her best assets. She looked so good. Yeah. Beautiful. And he looked hot, even though I'm not really into that mustache. And he thanked his partner, which now he refers to her as his partner. Doesn't say girlfriend, which we love because it's like gay. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah. It's like that. Girlfriend. It was like that period of time where people got out of marrying their girlfriends because they were like, until my gay brothers and sisters can get married, we are going to hold off. Like this is all. Um, but anyway, this was kind of funny. Someone put on the internet that, that this was her name card that the name card was Kylie Jenner's dash Shalameh and that she was holding it, looking at it, laughing at him and someone made a big story. But then they react, they realized, no, this was fake. This was not, that was not her card. The card was just her name and they were talking about something else. Why must we parcel out fake news at all times now? We're like, all time. Well, because anybody can just do an account and it just looks like that. It goes viral and just like somebody caught something, but it wasn't real. So this weekend I ran into Caitlyn Jenner. And, um, you know, we were catching up on everything and I, she was talking about some other stuff, flying planes, her, you know, her race car driving. And then I just was like, have you met Timothy? Have you met Timothy and do you like him for Kylie? And she said, yes, they've been together three years. She likes him very much and respects his work as an actor and how much, how many years he went into becoming Bob Dylan and the amount of like learning the different instruments and he did the same thing with Marty Supreme. And, you know, he said, look, you know, Kylie, you know, is Kylie with her plane and her billions and everything. So it's going to be very hard for someone like her. It's very hard for all the girls to find a partner, a man that's at that level. So they're just a great match. And he, that's a good take. Yeah. And he's great. According to Caitlyn and has Caitlyn's approval. So I thought that was very nice. Well, that is nice. We love a Timothy Chalamet moment. Love it. To get, of course, you had time with Caitlyn and you went right to Timothy Chalamet. That's right where you need to go. I know. And then, yeah, and then I was asking about Kendall. Oh. Kendall addressed the. She did on a podcast, the rumors of, is she a lesbian? And in that podcast, and I forgive me, I don't remember the name of the podcast, but she, she said, no, I'm not, but it's funny that people always kind of thought that. And you want to address the rumors about you or. Listen, it's really very hurtful for my man. You know, it's like we've been together a long time and I just, I don't understand why people keep saying. Now, much like Kendall, right? I'm not opposed to it. Yeah. I'm open to it. Is that what she said? Didn't she say she's open to it? In the future? Well, I think, I think regardless, you got to say that in 2026. You can't say, I would never. Cause then it looks like you're, you think that that is not right. So you have to say, sure, who's just, who's to say where I'll be in five years. If the right person comes along. Well, I would say as a homosexual, I'm perfectly fine with, cause I want to know where we stand. Don't be, you know what I mean? I like it when people have a definitive thing. I am this, I am that, or I'm into it or I'm not. Most women are open in general, but if you're not, that's okay. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm going to say sexually, I'm absolutely not open to making out and touching women's boobs. That's fine to learn after all the time we've spent with you waiting the many nights, however, I absolutely wouldn't mind having a woman as my wife. I like now this is a, I want to tell you something. I want Jill's Aaron as a wife and my next life for your listeners. Heather did tell us that she would enjoy Jill's Aaron as a wife to dig her own sexual life to make me the multiple suit. I'm pretty sure you wanted her to be your Jewish mom. I wanted to be a Jewish mom or my Jewish wife. Oh, either one. That's the same. A wife. I want a decorator. I want someone to take care of you. I want someone to take care of me. That's what I want. But, you know, I mean, I've already told Shannon, like we have a whole retirement plan, like providing the men go first. We're just going to live together and then just have one caretaker take care of us both. Why do we have to like go to some home? We can just have our own home as long as we have each other. That's right. And which was which is one of the reasons that we did end up finally finding men is there was a book called the Sister Book and we got it. We each bought it for each other the same Christmas, which we've given each other the same cards and stuff over the years. Like on credit, like we pick out the exact same card. And the book was like this beautiful black and white photography book. And it was like all these great sisters and some of them were famous. Some of them, you know, they're like artsy photos. They all had mastectomies. They all got through cancer. The and then there was this one photo of these two, like Gertrude and Gladys or whatever. And they had lived together their entire life and they had never gotten married. And at the time we were single women living in Brentwood. You suddenly looked at each other. We suddenly look and you suddenly said, OK, we need to we need to. And so they would shout at Michael, her now husband, if he was like, yeah, I want to take you out Saturday night. I'm going to come from Palm Desert or whatever to take you out to dinner. And I'm like, so what are you going to do? She's like, well, I told him, no, we have plans to go see that movie on Saturday night. And I'm like, shan't it. We are going to become. But we want to become Gladys and Gertrude, but not that we're like 80. Yeah, of course. You know, like that's what that's the plan. Well, I would say that most. Straight women feel like you do. Oh, yeah, everybody. Like particularly ones who are who are like, I'm into it. I'm like, no, you're not. You're not into it. What you're into is somebody you have in a friend. Yeah, which which which is what normal human beings do. You just want a friend. You're not. You know what I mean? It's like a because it's women. Yeah, because women can be close friends want to be with boys and girls want to be with girls. And that's it. That's why it's such a weird thing to even be a gay person. It's just like, why am I why? It's just normal. Julie has a whole thing with like it's me and you and you. Are you a homophobic? Yes, they call it internalized homophobia. Yeah, because it's like it's just when I in my experience is just being around so many women is that women in general men too like being with each other. Yeah. But then there's the sexual component, which makes it different. But at the end of the day, that's what's so confusing is that ultimately women, especially can get very close and have close friendships. So it's just like, of course, you want a wife. Every woman wants a wife because that's what we are. We're wives. Even in a friendship, we're wives. You know what I mean? I totally agree. It's bizarre. I know. It's and it's more and more as you get older, like everyone's just like, so let's ever like in group chats, is Saturday night husbands too or just girls? Just girls. It's so weird. It's so it's so weird. It's so weird. And then Julie never wants to be in the photos with us. Yeah. Then the pictures. No, I don't want one guy in the photo. And it's like, and they were like, no, come on. And it's me and you and Shannon and like three like girls from the country club. And then Julie's like right there. And I'm like, and it's just like my mother looks at the pictures like, who's that? I'm like, it's me. Who's that guy? It's me. So why did they let you in the photo? Why are they? Why did they let you in the picture? Because I'm one of the girls too. Anyway, I do also think not only does Kendall have the challenge of also being extremely successful to find someone at that match, but she's a tall. Yes, a tall. Oh, a tall. Yes. And right. Even Caitlin has said that she tried it, tried to set her up with, you know, super successful young person. And I was like, can I add and it didn't work out. I go, but Caitlin, how tall was this guy? And she's like, well, yeah, probably not tall enough. Yeah. Kate, if you wanted to wear six feet tall. Yeah. And then you want to wear heels and all that. And so that's why she goes for basketball players sometimes. But OK, getting on Jennifer Lawrence had the look is still in with the sheer, but this was like the flowers put in all the the booby parts and the crotch part. And what do you think of this outfit? OK, I thought first of all, I thought she was beautiful. Her I love the way the shape of the dress and the flowers made her legs look. I thought her legs looked phenomenal. There's something about the flowers hanging down the crotch area that made me think of like a huge bush. And it was also, even though we're getting rid of giving, it was also making me feel a feeling of I'm like an Adam and Eve and I'm I'm wearing like leaves to cover. Or I'm a naked and afraid. This is one of those where for certain angles, it looked better than others. And then the wallpaper made. She had like this like cloth around her that's like a shawl. But it almost looks like like wallpaper I used to have like in a bathroom in the 80s. I don't know. I in the end, I don't know if I love it. I can totally approve it. That literally is exactly what when I was 12 and I came home and my mother read my bedroom, that's what it looked like. The balloons. And the balloon like on the top of a window where it's like ballooning. Yeah. You know, and I was a valid horrified. But that's what that reminds me of. So funny you said that. Her body looks. Yeah, everyone's. She's the best. Kate Hudson. Finally, Kate Hudson is I will never ever get over when Kate Hudson was nominated for Best Actress for that. Almost famous. Almost famous. And she did her hair curly and she had these weird shoulder pads. It was one of the worst outfits. Hate. So now she's got this sing song blue show, a movie that everyone says is great. I saw it. Was it great? Beautiful. And this silver dress, it's perfect for her shoulders, her boob size. It's the best look she's ever had. It was just stunning. And the way it like photographed. The hair was just a low split, you know, parted down the middle low bun. I think she could have done more with the hair, but still I give her a 10 for her. You used to do Kate Hudson, Heather. Didn't you? I thought you do her like fabletics and it was fucking. I think I did a log time. Yeah, but I her body is great. That movie is good. She's so good in the movie. She's so good in the movie. Did she win? Do we know? I always think when you're someone that's going to all these events. So now you know, you've got critics choice. You've got this and you've got two more others. And obviously you want the best one saved for the Oscars. And it's like, how do you like decide? Like these are my four favorites. I want to get attention in the dress early on so that people are thinking about me. But the best one has to be saved for the Oscars. But you also want your the one that you think you might win. Like if you think you might win the Oscar, but you might win the Golden Globe, then maybe you want better. Just love them all. Yeah. OK, J. Lowe wore a sheer thing with it. It was like sheer with like brown swirlies and then like a fishtail bottom. Now, the only thing I noticed was the bronzer was a little off. You think it's too dry? Look how much bronze is at the top of the forehead. And then I just thought this needed to be like the bronzer needed to stop the here at the forehead. But other than that, I loved it. It's a little bit too much under her cheeks or something. I loved it. I thought it was a unique look. I think she looks and she presented. Sick like, wow, she always delivers. And then. What are their names again? John Krasinski. Can I please show up close up on his face? Because I don't understand. Is he in some glass? Oh, there we go. I don't know. He wore a turtleneck with a velvet blazer suit. And then she wore just like a beautiful dress and I almost had like a little capelet. Yeah, kind of sixties. I just thought they went really well together as a couple. I just like that. Like sixties. Julie would say that and we're not going to get political. We're going to leave it here. But Julie would say that that looks like something Melania Trump would wear because she loves a capelet. What, Brandy? I don't know what you mean. I'm not an odd cap. Fabulous. They do look good. I generally don't like a turtleneck in general, but I feel like since you just pointed out that it was sort of like a whole thing. I think it was a whole thing. Now I see it. Put together like a very. Sixties. Sixties. And then our girl from White Lotus with I forgot her name. She's split between her teeth. What is her name? Nobody is her name like Annie, something I forget. So she was she was there and she wore just a classic black dress off the shoulder, big puffy bottom, tight in the waist. But the hair was horrible. Like this is what it looks like when you go to the bridal store and you're trying it on. Like how did you not like curl it, put it back, do something with it? It was the dress either. I'm not into the dress, but the hair is worse than the dress. The hair and this was really, really bad. And I'm going to say it and I'm sorry, I don't know your name, but it wasn't we love her, though. Yeah, I love her acting. Hated that look. Yes, Britney Snow, lesbian, hunting wives. I thought this was just so like unique and kind of classic. It's not what I would wear, but because you have such a tiny body, like we could have showed off a waist and a whole thing. But it's kind of chic and the way she did her hair low. I think she's going for a pal-tro type of vibe. Like I didn't like very simple and stunning. Like clean girl aesthetic. Yeah, I thought I liked it. Because you bought your robot vacuum on your Barclay card, you got zero percent interest for up to 24 months, which makes watching it hypnotically sweeping up your crumbs even more satisfying. Oh, Mr. Bit, what you buy is your business. Helping you pay less interest is ours. Barclay card backing your future. Subject to financial status, new customers only. Representative example, 24.9% APR representative variable, 24.9% purchase rate per annum based on 1,200 pound credit limit, T's and C's apply. OK, so good hang one. That's for the podcast, which is Amy Poehler. And I, based on the people that were nominated, which I'll go through is why I knew that she would win. You're not going to give it to three men, smart list, who are all movie stars. Not in 2026, bitch. You're not going to give it to one man, Dak Shepard, who is all over the internet as people analyzing him and Kristen. Wig, Bells. Relationship. They just had share on. It was a very awkward, awkward situation. And a lot of people are analyzing him as a husband and a narcissist and all this other stuff. So I knew he wasn't going to win. OK, then you're not going to go with the grifters, Jay Shetty and Mel Robbins. No, you're not going to go with Caller Daddy, even though she's been doing it for, I don't know, eight or 10 years just because she's too young. So let's go with someone everybody likes. No one has ever said one negative thing about Amy Poehler. She is taking it seriously. She's doing a good job. She hasn't even had the show for a year. Oh, my God. And but, you know, she gave a nice speech. Thank everybody made a joke that, you know, PBS, you know, should have jokingly saying it's a good thing they didn't win, meaning like they should have won. And and I think and, you know, I that if I was to say who, why I think she's the safest bet to win, they wanted to invite the people to get the attention on the Golden Globes and that those people would come. Right. But also, you know, it's amazing when you when then when she stands up there and she thanks the 29 people that work on the show. And I'm just like, Oh, exactly. Well, a nice speech for you. Yeah, I like, yeah. Thanks to Drake and Peter. Yeah. And I definitely would do a Snoop Dogg. And most importantly, I'd like to thank myself. Yeah. Definitely want to thank myself. Yes. Don't forget our Lord and Savior. Yes. You know. And Mary tirelessly. Virgin Mary. No. I would she's really likeable. It's a good show. I'm glad she won. But I'm I'm just telling you, I totally predicted that it would be if I was on the Globes like nominating committee, I would have or the voting committee, I would have voted for smart list, probably. I mean, I think that they did a great job this year. I mean, I saw one of the funniest clips. You saw that, I'm sure, with Conan O'Brien. Yeah. And I mean, I think they're they've been doing it longer than her. I think she's great. I'm nothing against her. I mean, it's just hard when you're in this game to be like happy for the person that's an A-list star that started it six months ago. Even Bill Maher. It's like the whole TV show. What are you even doing there? I mean, even Caller Daddy, though, she's young. She's done it for 10 years, you know, and she does certainly have a bigger show than yeah, and she's, you know, and even into like straight up interviews and stuff. So she's not doing all like the sex stuff, whatever. But who you know, who knows with these voting things? Is it really real? Remember when they used to do that where they'd be like, and now for the accounting firm of they bring out the suitcases and like, who cares? No, there's no. Again, nobody cares. It's not going to make a difference. Just make the show so it's entertaining. But it is the first big real like podcast award category. Legitimately. This is the first time it's ever been in any kind of level like this. So that's why this whole thing is important. Just in general, even though it's clearly political and whatever, it's it's representation matters. And now it's like, here we go. Yeah. OK. Get Step and Drake. So also there, Sean Penn. What did you say? Get to get to step and Drake. Step up the game. Also, Sean Penn got caught smoking at his table. I am alive. You are not going to tell him that he has to go outside with the valets to get a cigarette. He's Sean Penn and his forward and his forehead screams. I'm a smoke. The man has not stopped smoking since 1980 for a second. Like literally, he hasn't literally stopped doing this. Maybe, maybe, I mean, maybe since 85. But the any every interview, every single time he is in doing acting, he's smoking. And I have to say, as a smoker myself. Until January 20th. That's right. The level of balls. And you have to have a certain type of like, I don't give a fuckness to be able to smoke in a room. I can't even go outside in California. 50 feet from an from an entryway to a door outside. We've been smoking at she's been smoking at the Abbey and someone inside out. But they're outside. It's an outside place. But they're outside. They're inside the door. Yeah. Outside the door. And they're like, excuse me. I'm eating. And I'm like, I'm smoking because I'm outside. Like, I can't even but I'm not even. But then I have to like, sorry, like, there's nowhere we can be. It's everyone's offended by it. And for this man, the way the reason I'm so into it is not only that he's just being himself and smoking, but the level of like, like, like, Cajones and just all of it just to smoke in there. You just it's it's beyond. By the way, it's unbelievable. If you have not watched Princess Bride on today's TVs, on the 4K, like TV, I'll let you know Robin Wright Penn was a full time smoker as well. Who is his ex wife? Because you can see it in the teeth. And I'm like, oh, wow, I've never watching 80s movies on like today's TV. He's like a whole thing. It's like, wow, OK, wow. I didn't never realize that was what was going on with your teeth or anything. So yeah, no, they like to smoke. I mean, he went to like El Chapo's like house in Mexico. I was always I'm always very shocked when I find out anyone's a smoker. It's I just found out you were. I barely spoke around me. OK, no, well, I don't I'm a rare rare. It's rare, but it's it's but it's in my life. I have to OK, switching gears, breaking a real housewives of OC News. Katie Janella, who is the beautiful Korean, I believe she's Korean girl, adopted into her family, told that story, has her second husband and her three or four kids, she is leaving the show. And she said after two seasons as a cast member of Real Housewives of OC, the network has decided to move forward with season 20 without me. While disappointing, it's not entirely surprising after seeing how season 19 played out. I'm incredibly grateful for the love, support, I received appreciated representation matters, and I'm proud to have shown up authentically. My story does not end here. OK, so. Listen, I do think. I think that was the right move. I don't think it's surprising. I mean, look, it's the 20 year anniversary, and I think they're going to bring back like, oh, geez, I think they're going to do a lot of flashbacks. I think they're going to try to make it really fun and kind of like them. You know, the memorable thing, like the whole season is just going to be like memories and like the Trace Amiga. Yes. And so I just don't think there's a place for especially with all the issues of like accusing her of being like a pathological liar and stuff. I just don't know how you'd work that in. And she wasn't like particularly late, like funny or memorable or whatever in what they showed, not saying that she couldn't be more entertaining doing something else. But in what we saw, yeah, she's right. Yeah, of course, you're not going to be picked. You it's Vicki. They're going to be whooping it up. They're going to be. Can't wait. Like whipped cream into each other's vaginas and they're going to be doing weird shit. And it's I think that I do think you're right. They're going to want it to be fun and funny. She was for all she brought to the show just in terms of drama, I guess. She just wasn't she wasn't high energy. She wasn't entertaining those those girls on OC, like, you know, they they can be like wildly entertaining. Yeah, you know, even even Heather, who. You know, it doesn't necessarily have like that. I mean, Heather was like a full on like pothead all through Amsterdam. Like, she even surprised, you know, like now I'm like, OK, yeah. That's what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. So well, good luck to her. I predict that she and her husband will do some type of YouTube show together. That's my prediction. OK. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City had a they're in Greece and it was their final episode. So this week will be the reunion. And they did this thing that I was like, are you kidding me? So they go and they're like, oh, this woman's going to write us a Greek play. And she's going to interview all of us about each other. So they all talk about themselves and each other. And then each girl wears a matching scarf. So if I'm wearing orange scarf, I see the girl wearing orange on stage. And that's who's me. And it was like so long and lame. And I'm like, who what person on production wrote this out? And it was another one of those moments that Brandy always brings up like, hey, guys, let's play a game at lunch. What's the meanest thing that you've ever thought about someone at this table? I'll go first. Brandy, I don't like that you have three pierced earrings in one ear. I don't like it. And I've said it to all the girls and we've talked about it incessantly. And then you pull out your phone and show the group chat that I'm not on where everyone's like, it's just trashy. Are those diamonds even real? I will say Heather told us and they are not for nothing. They're very tiny, though, that she fell asleep, which was classic Heather. Because this was it wasn't a play. It wasn't it was all of them standing up there. And it was like, and then the lady turned to her sister and said, you only care about material goods. And without recognizing your own goods, you lash out at others and are feeling insecure to the bottom of your bone and your shoes aren't nice. What? Like, I don't even know it was so. That was a good impression. People, that was a good impression. They were doing a Greek tragedy, which, you know, only Julie knows what that even is. And so it's just like, you know, so of course, the one person was talking and then it's them and the thing and they're whatever. And so it was a take on a Greek tragedy. And I do believe that that woman was like, probably makes half a living doing that in Greece with like tourists who come in. It's like, we're going to come in and get a Greek tragedy written about us. And then it's the whole thing and they do it. But I was actually I loved it. I loved it. I was I watched it. What did you love about it? That they first of all, they're all sitting there with their scarves. And it was the first time, too, or was it was also a take on like when they get in costumes and then get in fights, which is another thing that we love. But because they but they were wearing the scarf and then they were watching themselves and hearing the words that they had told the late. I loved all of it. And that lady or whoever wrote the tragedy nailed almost all of them. I don't think she wrote it. I think somebody on staff wrote it. Well, I think that they got. I think they were too easy on Mary Crosby. But I think that they pretty much got most of them. May most importantly, Heather Gay. Well, they nailed. I thought they nailed Bronwyn Heather Gay. I think also in whoever wrote it and was like, and then without our sisters, we are nothing, which told this everybody like, hey, idiots, you better play in the slant in the sand with these bitches. Or you will be left on an island by yourself and you won't be asked back. So unless you guys all make up and don't say, I can't do this anymore. I won't work with this person. You have one chance to make up so that we have another season because we are the producers and we'd all like to get another season out of you. Here's what I love. I love that. I love that. First of all, the look on their faces, realizing, oh, we all went in and did the interview with the playwright. It's so good. And they start to realize, oh, everyone said, I'm fake. I have three earring holes. You know, I'm a pathological liar. I'm a narcissist. I mean, all of that. So then they're all like, it's all hitting. I run the show. That was great. And then me just of all the things that we all know, it's don't do this at my charity event. Who do you hate? When was the last time you had sex? That dumb game they all play. You do it in the box. Yeah. And the let's talk anal. Yeah. Always the anal part. Do you spit or swallow? And so to do this, I imagine like an associate producer who's busy frankenbiting quotes who went in and pitched like, I think while we're in, you know, Greece, we should do a Greek tragedy. And I was so happy for whoever that person was. I was like, at least it was something we'd never seen. And they were all dragged to filth, except for the ones that weren't. But like to see Bronwyn and then she then Bron breaks down. Thank God. And Bron had like a nice phone. Or she's like, yeah, you know what? I'm really sorry. I really didn't realize where that insecurity was coming from. And I do want to work more in these friendships. I mean, she's really come to be quite likable this season for sure. Her taking it in, even if it was just a performance and owning it. I was like, slow clap. I mean, she was on my nerves last season with the lying about the jewelry and the lying all the time and constantly, totally not trustworthy. Someone tells her something into the next scene. She weaponizes it. And I'm just like, God, man, she's just like, sucks. And then so for her to take that and then admit it, I was like, oh, wow, that's great. Like that's why that finale was so good. But then, of course, who doesn't take it in. Is Heather Day, who they said is Nars. I mean, she has lost her goddamn mind. The woman has lost her mind. That spin off. What? Well, you know, she is pretty big deal now. Yeah, pretty big deal now. And come on. Huge deal. Too big. Yeah, a little too big. Yeah. Too big. So and she also, you know, so also there was, you know, talk of that one of them did have their stomach pumped at one point during filming. Wow. And it came up again in other discussions in the internet world. And yeah, I mean, I think people think it's the night that Heather Gay had five espresso martinis, which I think would make anybody sick, quite honestly. So. But as the town drunk, I have never had my stomach pumped. Of course, I have TT in my pants, though, and she did do that in the van. Right. P. Peter shit. She. No, I thought I didn't. She didn't. She didn't shit her pants. We don't know. Oh, I thought she just peter pants and then. Oh, but that's probably what told them she's got to go. Because of medical issue. But that does seem like also. So I mean, who hasn't been too drunk when they haven't just thrown up in the. I mean, that's just a pretty. General. Then you've got, you know, a couple of moments in your life. Yeah. And you either. Of course. You either shit your pants or you wake up with a black eye. Right. And write two books about it without telling what really happened ever to this day to this day. Oh, that. Yeah. The finale was great. I am fucking dying for the reunion. The clips are so good. And do you think that Andy Cohen walk off and we'll discuss this with you and you'll be discussing on the show. But since do you think that was real or I think it's just a moment where he can't get a word in and he just literally has a splitting headache and he's just done this for 20 years and he just walks off. That's what I thought he needs. Like, yeah, I just think he's just like, yeah, let this be over, you know. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills had a very boring episode, but it could be building into something. This girl, Amanda, you know, people are criticizing her online saying, oh, she's new money, but she makes her money by manifesting it and then teaching others how to manifest money. And you you can buy a coaching sessions for as much as $11,000. That also include meeting her in person. And then you learn those tools and then you can start your own coaching business and your own writing books and podcasts and all that stuff. This has always been around. And my day, it was called a motivational speaker. When I was doing real estate, this guy came to the real estate office and was like for $1,600, which would be like, you know, 5,000 now. Every Tuesday, whatever come to this meeting, we're going to motivate you how to get listings and all that stuff. And at the end, also at the end, we're all going to go skydiving. Well, skydiving was something I always wanted to do. So I was like, can I do this? So my parents paid for me to do this motivational speaker thing. And I remember like he was always a guy was just like, I get up every day at 430 in the morning. It's always about getting up at 430 in the morning. Why? Why can't someone just work later at night? Why do they have to be at 430? I get up at 430 in the morning. I do it. And so one time I called him at like nine to like ask him a question and he's like, oh, hello. And I'm like, you're sleeping like what are you talking about? So then eventually I got to signing up for the for this for the skydiving and it wasn't even included in the 1600. So then I paid for it and I went skydiving. And I guess you didn't manifest it because the thing is that what you need to do is manifest whatever it is that you want to do. So if you wanted to make money, I would say like part of it is like manifesting it. You know what I mean? That's really the most important thing that when I teach my students is manifesting. What really clicked for me. Yes. Was realizing that when you can identify the goal and the image that you see your future self, but also keeping in mind, who's that little girl? I don't want to leave her behind. I want that little girl to live the life that I know that she can live. And that life is one of abundance and goal setting. And by waking up every day and just getting out of bed and brushing your teeth and doing affirmations, saying I deserve the wealth, then it's just one more step to doing it and by learning the tools and coming on our three day weekend. Someone asked me recently, what are the tools for? What are the tools for making money? And it's easy. The tools are such as, like you said, like I, you said, what are the tools? Wake up in the morning, think about what you're thinking and then take those thoughts and think them. And that is the most important thing. And I know that when my students pay $16,000. Yes. For this advice, I also give them very specifics, very specific advice. Why hasn't it worked in the past? Why hasn't it worked in the past? Right. Why has it not worked in the past? Tell them. The past is in the past. Exactly. Oh, my past is in the past. You know what today is? Tell them. Tell them today is only today. Okay. You could only accomplish so much today that you cannot accomplish tomorrow. And that person that's pulling you by the hair. Don't, don't let them. Don't let them. That's your past. You, that's the past. That's right. So the here are the 10 commandments of Heather's hilarious abundance of money. Okay. One, wake up and say, I'm worth it. Two, feed your soul with breakfast, knowing that that is going to give you the energy to create the money. Write it down. Three, pay attention. Write it down. Go ahead. Keep going. Three, stretch, stretch it out. Also stretch out your money. You're not going to make more money and lets you stretch your inner soul, your inner thighs, and your inner wallet, open your legs for four, walk around and say, I deserve to be rich. Period. I deserve to be rich. That's not taking from anybody else. That's saying what I deserve. That's right. That's right. Six, five sex cells. I'm not saying necessarily, but you should check out Holy fans. It could be for you. And it's the quickest way to make money. You though you're not you over there. Absolutely not. But you three for sure. Those three over there. Definitely. Seven. Absolutely. Go on. Seven. Yes. If you can't do it alone, find a partner who's rich. Exactly. That could be the old man down the street that note that is errors aren't visiting. Yes. Why don't you bring him an apple pie? He doesn't need to be in a wheelchair alone. No, he doesn't. No, he does not. He does not at all. You got two more. Three, but no counting. Eight. Yes. Do what seems natural. You know what? Do what seems natural. If you like to. Oh, yes. Buy it with throw pillows. Be an interior decorator. Exactly. That is what you should do. That's get some clients overcharge them. Yes. And buy some throw pillows. So easy. Why not? So easy. What are we doing? I think I'm on 10. Good. Good. Last one. Start a podcast. Start a podcast. Everyone can start a podcast. Yes. Everybody wants to listen to your thoughts. Yes. And all you have to do is get a mic. Yep. You don't have a friend. Buy a stuffed animal. Yep. Buy a stuffed animal or a fake baby doll and get into a mom's group. Yep. And then expose that mom's group as being toxic and then become friends with Ashley Tisdale because she doesn't have any friends left. Thank you. Thank you all for coming today. Thank you. Heather will be available to sign and to speak to you for $75 extra. Okay. Thank you. And if you want to be part of the MLM, you can come to the other room and we'll talk about MLM. Oh, we call associates that thrive to bring others around them up to the top. If you want to be in the podcast network. Yeah. If you want to be in the entrepreneurial group, right, that brings people up. Let's meet. We'll meet later. I did appreciate the show editing her as one upping. I normally, I wouldn't remember really that into her, but the way the show had, I was finding great joy and pleasure in it. I paid $10,000 for a crystal one time at a dinner. $10,000. You know what is positive about these housewife shows is sometimes it's good to see something like that to go, I wonder if I ever do that. And if I do, I don't want to do it. Because sometimes you need to see it. Yeah, somebody on TV living their life that's somewhat relatable. And that's like your age or young mom or whatever. And yeah, when she just talked about, yeah, when I bought your sister's house, I was like, let me get this motherfucker. And then I made some really great choices. Thank God, like I got rid of that black and white floor for her. And then I was like, this looks so good because I have such an eye. I think I'm just going to stay in this dump. Once the tennis court was finished. Yeah, it was really all, all upward from there. I think I do it, I think, but I think I do it in the thing where I think, oh, I'm just relating. Like if somebody goes, oh, I have a Chihuahua. I'm like, oh my God, I have a Chihuahua too. I don't think I'm like upping them because obviously my Chihuahua was like a million times cuter than theirs and tinier. But that would be the one up. More expensive. That's what you don't, she would do if you said, I have a Chihuahua. She would go, oh my God, I have the best Chihuahua. I have the best Chihuahua on the planet. I got her. This is what she would do. This is what she would do. Say you have a Chihuahua. I have, I just love my Chihuahua. Oh my gosh, that's so interesting. I have always had Chihuahuas. And now it's like everyone's having Chihuahuas, but currently my number one Chihuahua just got a modeling deal. Oh, she's actually with Kendall Jenner doing a Super Bowl commercial. And it's just, it's, yeah. And even Kendall Jenner could deal with it. I just woke up one day and I manifested my Chihuahua. Right, manifested it. On a commercial doing, during Super Bowl, I wrote it down three weeks later. I got the call. Is your Chihuahua available to be in a Super Bowl commercial? For $300,000. For now, not only am I feeling bad that my Chihuahua is UGG and can't do modeling. I'm also feeling bad that I'm not doing enough manifesting. I'm not working hard enough to get my Chihuahua the job. It hits on all levels. She might be the greatest, what do you call it? You know, the, the thrower of a hot potato that's ever been alive. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to come up with something that nobody else has ever come up with. Okay. See it. Say it. Believe it. Achieve it. Oh, be it. Wow. Wow. See it. See it. Say it. Believe it. See it. See it in your head. Say it. I want my Chihuahua on a Super Bowl commercial. Believe it. Believe it. It's got to happen. Achieve it. He got the call. Be it. He is now on a commercial. And just embody it. And I embody that. That's the one up thing. I already came up with that. Say it. See it. Be it. Achieve it. Embod it. Embod it. Then get it. That I mean, you know, I mean, it's cute that you thought of that, but like it's the get it part. That's what I appreciate what I do as a manifesting mama guru. Oh, whoa, whoa. The branding there. Drake, Pat Matt right now manifest thing. Because if not, you know, manifesting mama is my new, it's going to be my third book. I have, uh, you'll never blue ball in this town again. My inappropriate life, a manifesting mama. Oh my God. And, um, and if people say, what is that? I'm going to say, let them, let them make another great slogan you came up with. And then from another grifter, it's amazing. It's, you know, it's amazing. I'm sorry. She didn't win in her podcast category. Incredible. Um, what else happened? Really nothing. Oh, you know, one thing I noticed is when they get on the plane to go to Sedona and they talk about, what did you bring, you know, Rachel? And she's like, it's just like a lot of calf towns. It's very Sedona, I like a felt hat. Can I say that the, the things on the bottom of the subtitles said cuffed hands. Cause she went cuffed hands. Yeah. And it wrote a lot of cuffed hands. It's like a lot of chunky jewelry. I'm a lot of, you know, and then, you know, of course Kyle walks in wearing a bunch of Aqua, including her Birkin, like a diss or a voice. Then she's like, Amanda's wearing only Lily Vatan as big as her head. That's her. She's into labelling stuff. Um, of course, Bose just walks in like a queen. I'm like, here's the thing. Can nobody be snarky about Bose? I like Bose, but there, you can't tell me you like every outfit she's ever worn. Everybody is just like, Bose is the greatest. Bose is the smartest. Bose and like, but then you're in it. You're snarky about everybody else's outfit, but that, and then Bose walks in as a freaking queen. Why was she dressed up to queen? I know I didn't even describe her outfit. She didn't show her even to show us what she was even wearing. Like just admit you guys are terrified. Like just whatever of saying anything but only complimentary. Thank God for Rachel's though, though, because she, I told, this is what I told Garcella was like, I do feel like Garcella was funny on it. Yeah. And she's gone. And I'm like, we need like not a lot of the rest of them are really funny. Erica's pretty funny, but I mean, Rachel's though is funny to me. Well, right. And yeah, Eric has some Eric has just kind of like nice and happy. Remember there was a time where she was like falling off chairs and getting drunk because she was so depressed, but now she's getting, you know, nicely boned by this like former special ops guy that's like age appropriate. And she's like happy and just so she's like pretty normal. Yeah. So she's normal and good. And that's about it. So now we have something very exciting because many of you guys know, I do juicy crimes every Wednesday and Brandy and Julie are here and we are going to now record our juicy crime so you can listen to more brandy and Julie tomorrow. We have a handful of crimes. I want to get into some that are crazy. They, I'm going to describe to you some that you're going to share and give info on as well. And so if you haven't subscribed to that, you just go subscribe or on YouTube as well. And of course you want to check them out at tell everybody where they can find all your stuff. And brandy.com. And then from there, you can go on to our regular podcast, um, dumb gay politics, or you can go to our really, you should go to the Patreon. Patrons where it's at the patrons where you don't want politics, do the Patreon. Yeah, you want to do politics, go to our free dumb gay politics. And anyone who's in the Minneapolis area, we are going to be there for the month, February 22nd through the 23rd doing nightmare on strip street. So if you need a break, maybe nightmare, from the nightmare, then come on to the show because it will be a safe space for all. And maybe we can convince you and Drake to come and like you did in San Francisco. Come visit us and ground zero in America. I want everyone to know I'm wearing the same outfit for Juicy Crimes. And are you guys. Yes. Yes. So don't think that this is, I wonder if I should just change my, well, we're not. Bitch. No, we're not. We're, I just wonder if it looks, it'll, maybe we should just, let me just change my shirt. Just so people know it's not the same show they watched yesterday. We're going to be in our same one. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Bye. With WOOP, you can focus on living better for longer, understand your sleep, optimize your training and build habits that support your well being. 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