The Martell Method w/ Dan Martell

How to Build a Profitable Personal Brand (5 Simple Steps)

19 min
May 14, 202616 days ago
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Summary

Dan Martell outlines five steps to building a profitable personal brand: understanding what a brand is (association), identifying your specific audience, consistently posting content without overthinking, prioritizing trust over quick monetization, and finally monetizing through ads, brand deals, or owned products. He emphasizes that the modern model prioritizes building audience and trust before attempting to make money.

Insights
  • The shift from 'who you know' to 'who knows you' means personal brands are now primary business assets, with audience attention being the new currency
  • Specificity and controversial takes attract ideal customers while repelling wrong-fit audiences, whereas trying to appeal to everyone results in vanilla, unmemorable content
  • Trust is the prerequisite for monetization; creators who attempt to sell too early or too frequently damage their credibility and lose long-term revenue potential
  • Consistent execution matters more than perfection; the first 100 posts are 'throwaways' meant for learning, not performance
  • Monetization should only happen after years of free value delivery; the highest-upside strategy is owning the product/service you promote rather than relying on ad revenue or brand deals
Trends
Personal brands are becoming primary business assets with valuations exceeding traditional businesses (billion-dollar offers for YouTube channels)Creator economy shifting from ad-dependent models to owned product/service models (MrBeast Feastables, Logan Paul Prime, Nelk Boys Happy Dad)Live streaming and daily content commitment becoming table stakes for brand building (30-day live streaming challenges)Audience trust as measurable business metric; brands willing to pay premium rates for creators with proven audience loyaltyContent creators increasingly operating as business operators, not just content producers, requiring product development and operational skillsNiche audience targeting outperforming broad audience strategies in both engagement and monetization potentialFree value delivery at scale (10x more free than paid) becoming standard expectation for credible personal brandsPlatform consolidation strategy shifting from multi-platform presence to single-platform mastery before expansion
Companies
Nike
Referenced as example of brand association with athletes and performance
Ferrari
Referenced as example of brand association with luxury positioning
Apple
Cited as trillion-dollar company built on trust as primary currency with customers
YouTube
Platform discussed for ad revenue generation and content distribution strategy
Instagram
Recommended primary platform for personal brand building with twice-daily reel posting
TikTok
Mentioned as alternative platform for live streaming and content distribution
Facebook
Mentioned as platform option for live streaming content
X (Twitter)
Mentioned as alternative platform for live streaming and content sharing
People
Dan Martell
Host sharing personal experience building 10M+ followers and $100M+ in revenue
Elon Musk
Referenced as example of personal brand associations (space, wealth, controversy)
MrBeast
Referenced for billion-dollar YouTube channel valuation and Feastables product launch
Kylie Jenner
Referenced for building $600M makeup brand through social media audience
Tony Robbins
Referenced as speaking opportunity Dan obtained through personal brand building
John Maxwell
Referenced as industry idol Dan met through personal brand development
Jen
Friend cited for daily live streaming practice for 4 years and controversial take philosophy
Ronnie
Referenced for framework on identifying specific customer challenges
Gary Vaynerchuk
Referenced as model for replying to every DM, email, and SMS from audience
Zig Ziglar
Quoted for 'You don't have to be great to start, but you do have to start to be great'
Mike Brown
Referenced for generating $1M revenue with 7,800 followers through direct messaging strategy
Ryan Trahan
Referenced for launching Joyride product as owned brand monetization strategy
Logan Paul
Referenced for Prime energy drink product launch as owned brand monetization
Nelk Boys
Referenced for Happy Dad alcohol brand as owned product monetization strategy
Quotes
"If you don't have a controversial take or an unpopular opinion when you speak, then you're not repelling the people you don't want and you're not attracting the people you do want."
Dan Martell (citing Jen)
"The bigger the monster, the bigger the hero. Don't shy away from that."
Dan Martell
"No emotion, no motion. If you want people to sign up, you want people to follow, you want people to lean in and leave a comment, they gotta feel you."
Dan Martell
"You don't have to be great to start, but you do have to start to be great."
Zig Ziglar (cited by Dan Martell)
"Trust is the currency that you're trading when you build an audience."
Dan Martell
"I want to die empty. I have no reason to keep it inside. I give it all to everybody that wants it."
Dan Martell
Full Transcript
Right now, you're either in one of two buckets. You don't have a personal brand yet, or you do, but it's just not making you nearly as much money as it should. So I'm gonna help you fix both. I've personally built a brand to over 10 million followers across all platforms, and it's got me some cool stuff, like getting paid 100K for a single keynote, get on some of the top podcasts in the world, generate over 100 million of revenue for my companies, and most importantly, the thing I'm most proud of is the chance to help millions of people build a business they don't grow to hate, And I want that for you too. So today, I'm gonna walk you through the five steps to building a personal brand that brings every opportunity you've ever dreamed of into your life. But first, we need to understand what we're building in the first place. Welcome to the Martell Method. I went from rehab at 17 to building a $100 million empire and being a Wall Street Journal bestselling author. In this podcast, I'll show you exactly how to build a life and business you don't grow to hate. My bestselling book, Buy Back Your Time, is out now. grab a copy at buybackyourtime.com or at any of your preferred online retailers. Step one, understand what we're building. What is a brand? Think about it like this. A brand is nothing more than association. You have an object and you have association. You have Nike and you have athletes. You have Ferrari and you have luxury. A personal brand adds a person into it. So what do people think about when they hear your name? If you think of Elon Musk, you probably think space, you probably think rich, you probably think controversial, you probably think X or Twitter. If you think Mr. Beast, you probably think YouTube, most subscribers, big smile, high energy. Just think about it. What's the topics that you wanna be associated with? When you think of people, who do you wanna be associated with? When you think of products or hobbies, what do you wanna be associated with? So for me, it's blue shirt, it's AI, it's time. It's the things that I talk about. The old model was essentially you build a monetization engine first and then you build an audience. You figure out what you wanna sell and then you go create ads. That's gone. That's not the world we live in. The new model is you build audience, you build community, you build attention and then you monetize only if you build trust. The audience is the asset. It's the new oil. That's why we're seeing this like proliferation of people doubling down and going pro on their personal brand because the benefit of a personal brand is massive. Back in the day, it used to be who you know, and today it's who knows you. You being talked about in a room that you're not even in there because you created content to help people, that's incredible. Mr. Beast was offered a billion dollars for his YouTube channel like five years ago. Kylie Jenner used her social media to build a makeup brand that sold for $600 million. When I look at the crazy things in my life, speaking at Tony Robbins, meeting my idols like John Maxwell, doing the top podcasts like Modern Wisdom, Lewis Howes, all of these came on the backside of building a brand. And brand is nothing more than the feeling and association somebody has when they hear your name. So don't just build a business, build a brand. If you wanna be a millionaire, you can build a business. If you wanna be a billionaire, you gotta build a brand. So now we understand the concept of a personal brand, but how do we actually build one? Step two, stop talking to everyone. Okay, my friend Jen said it best the other day. She said, if you don't have a controversial take or an unpopular opinion when you speak, then you're not repelling the people you don't want and you're not attracting the people you do want. Think about it. If you try to talk to everyone, you just end up talking to no one. You sound like vanilla. There's no spice to your communication. And it's not about like jumping out there and screaming at the crowd or freaking out or being Mr. Funny Pants. It's literally having an opinion. It's about being you. And if you're quiet and you're chill and you just wanna sit there and bake goods and record yourself doing that, do it. But if you wanna like bring the energy and show your lifestyle and be a streamer like some of these people, like I show speed, isn't it crazy that that is some of the attention you can get? But again, association and brand. So the whole point is to talk to a specific person. What are their opinions on life? What do they wanna learn about? That is your ideal audience. And if you're trying to make money at some point, then you should speak to people that have the problem that you can help them with. So if you wanna figure out what you can share to really connect with an audience that you wanna attract, you have to ask yourself these three questions. The first one is what the toughest thing you ever gone through in your life Because if you can share that I will tell you the most powerful thing you have is the most challenging thing you gone through Your job is to help people avoid that pain. That is why people communicate. The bigger the monster, the bigger the hero. Don't shy away from that. The second is what's wrong with the world and how do you wanna fix it? Where's the problem, how do you see it, and what do you think the fix is? My buddy Ronnie says it best. What's a specific observable and nuanced challenge that this specific customer has around this problem? And you talk to that, your audience will feel like you've got a hidden camera in their office. And number three, what do you like talking about? When I think about the perfect mix, it's what does the market wanna hear? Cause there's an audience. And then what do I love to talk about? I just happen to love to talk about AI because I'm a technology guy. I love to talk about buying back your time and people show up 2.6 million people on YouTube. that's crazy to me, but it showed up because I chose to talk about the things that I love to talk about. So if you take those three questions, the answers to those should hint as to who you wanna help, how you wanna help them, the things you wanna create, the content you wanna help them with, right? So write down this one sentence. I help, insert type of person, who is a specific person, do, get the desired outcome, what do you help them do, without, the pain is whatever their challenge with right now trying to do the thing. The worst thing's ever happened to you is your mess. And oftentimes your mess is the most powerful message you have. Pain in your world is the perfect teacher. And if you don't share that emotion, you can't get people to take motion, right? No emotion, no motion. If you want people to sign up, you want people to follow, you want people to lean in and leave a comment, they gotta feel you. If they think you're just talking to everybody and you're very vanilla and you're plain, don't be upset if you've got no engagement. Now, for those who might already have a brand, but you're struggling to create good content, I have a gift for you. I have a full content playbook that covers everything. I'm talking how to build your brand voice, the frameworks to make your content go viral. If you want it, just find me on Instagram and DM me the words YouTube content and I'll send it over. Okay, we've built the plan to how to find your audience, who you wanna serve, but the next question is, what's the first real step to building one? Before we get back to the episode, if you wanna jumpstart your week with my top stories and tactics, be sure to subscribe to the Martell Method newsletter. It's where you'll elevate your mindset, fitness, and business in less than five minutes a week. Find it at martellmethod.com. Step number three, don't think. Turn off the frontal low because sometimes we convince ourselves out of doing something. Just post. Here's the deal. You'll never feel ready, so just start. First hundred posts will suck. Accept it. Just learn it. I actually consider it the first hundred throwaways. Why don't you just run as fast as you can to video, post, video, post, and just ask yourself, what can I improve each time? Slow it down, speed it up, be clear. Is there a call to action? Do I make this about them or do I make it for me? It's all about the reps, the reps, the reps. I sucked at being on camera when I first started. You see Dan today, but you didn't see Dan 11 years ago. I was nervous. I couldn't talk to the camera. I got red in the face, but I just knew that if I could learn how to communicate in front of a camera and not make it a big deal. Not because there's a recording little red bleeping thing. It's just show up and talk that over time I would get better. And I got to a place where I can shoot any video one take. I know I can stop and think a little bit and that's okay. I can breathe and just keep going. And the actions compound. Zig Ziglar said it best. He says, you don't have to be great to start, but you do have to start to be great. So here's what we need to do today. Number one, pick a platform, one platform. If you're asking for my suggestion, go all in on Instagram, publish twice a day on a reel, and just start and post, start and post, start and post. Don't worry about your feed. Second thing, we have to decide on a posting schedule. As I mentioned, if you're asking me, what does a pro do? Twice a day. But if you could just do one a day, oh my gosh, that would be beautiful. But all you have to do is pick a schedule that makes you slightly uncomfortable, that feels like a bit of a stretch, and just make sure that you're consistent for a long period of time. I like to think in years, not in months, not in weeks. The third, now pull out your phone, hit record right now, do it while you're watching this and just start yapping. Being like, man, I'm watching a video. Dan just said I gotta hit record and publish this thing and I don't know what I'm supposed to be saying, but that okay he said just shoot Now I gonna post it and if you feel compelled by this video you should shoot a video and post it too So now the trick is just publish That 80 of the problem Just publish Fourth is learn Study the content. What worked in the past? Hit it again. What didn't? Stop doing that. Go find out what other people are doing. Learn from them. Look at what my videos are doing. Learn from me. So here's where I'm gonna go next level and I'm gonna challenge you. My friend Jen does it every day. She did it for four years straight. I'm gonna challenge you to go live. And I want you to go live on whatever platform you want. It could be Facebook or Instagram or TikTok for 30 days. I want you to turn your phone on, hit live and just talk. The cool part is that you can delete the live as soon as you're done, okay? But record yourself on your phone, talking to the people, sharing an idea. You never know what's gonna work. You just have to commit to the time. So for the next 30 days, go live every day, talk to your audience, even if there's two people there and just practice, practice, practice. So now you understand the personal brand side, you know how to find your ideal audience and you've started posting, right? Right? Fuck yeah, that's awesome, cool. Posting isn't enough. This next part is where a lot of people screw up everything. Step number four, don't be a fucking sellout. A lot of people will post and then they get a little bit of views and they wanna squeeze every penny out of their community. Okay, that's being a sellout. That's being somebody that's like NASCAR. You're just like trying to monetize the out of everything you've ever done. I see people do this. They're selling stuff that they don't even use themselves. They prioritize making money over building the trust with the audience. Then once you lose that trust with the people, nobody's going to pay you to get in front of them. If you have the trust, people will literally line up begging you to pay you to get in front of them. My inbox is full of companies that want to pay me to promote them. guess what? Not doing it. For me, it's not what I do. Trust is the currency that you're trading when you build an audience. Think Apple. What Apple has in the market is the world trust. And because of that, it's a trillion dollar company. When people honor you with a follow or your content shows up in their feed, the best thing you could do is honor that trust. Show up and give. Don't try to monetize too quick. Don't try to sell stuff too quick. Honestly, just keep giving. A guy I know asked me, he's like, hey man, I know a way that I can monetize my audience even more. And I'm like, bro, do you understand the whole point of leaving money on the table is to leave the money on the table? If you're the person that sells something to every potential audience, every time you talk or open your mouth or post a video, that you're just trying to sell something, I'm just curious how long you can go giving and giving and giving and giving without ever asking for anything. So here are three rules to not be a sellout, okay? One, reply to at least five comments every single post. You, in there. Somebody comments, reply, reply. Do anything, support them, add value, answer their questions, but always reply to the comments. Don't think you're too cool to reply to comments. Two, reply to every single DM. If somebody follows you and they send you a direct message, always say something. I appreciate you saying hi. The person who showed me the way for this is Gary V. Gary has replied to every DM, every email, every SMS. Honestly, I don't know when he sleeps. He's been doing this for years. He might not be able to still do this, but if he could, he would. And I've just always tried to honor that. Third, give 10 times more free value than you ever asked for. I dare you to give away your best stuff. The thing that you get paid the most money to do for somebody, unpack how you do that and give it away, give it away, give it away. My whole philosophy around content is to die empty. I sit in my office and I go do things that make me tens of millions of dollars. Then I come in here and I go, Okay, let's unpack it. Let's show it just like this video and every other video on my channel. I want to die empty. I have no reason to keep it inside. I give it all to everybody that wants it. The whole playbooks there, everything I've ever done. I don't hold back. I don't get keep. If you do this every day, you will build an audience that actually trusts you. They show up to support you. If you have a book come out, they will buy it. It'll become a bestseller because you've poured into them for years without ever asking for anything. Now, everything we've done so far will help you build an audience that literally trusts you and will start to beg you to take their money because they trust you to solve problems. But only then do you get to this next step. Before we get back to this episode, if you prefer to watch your content, then go find me on YouTube. I have this episode on YouTube. I'm Dan Martell on YouTube. Just subscribe to the channel turn on the notification bell because then you get notified in real time It tell YouTube to tell you We got a new episode so you never miss anything Now let get back to the episode Step number five, monetize. The cool part is you don't need millions of followers to make money. Many people in my life that I've taught this to can monetize with less than 10,000 followers. My buddy, Mike Brown had 7,800, I think, when he came to me and I showed him the simple strategy of just messaging the new followers, talking to them. In the first year, he did a million in revenue off of his Instagram alone. He doesn't have a massive audience, but he talked to them. See, the importance is knowing the ways to make money from your brand and not coming across as a sellout. Monetizing the best way is essentially just solving a bigger problem some of your audience has for people who already trust you. Have you ever just followed somebody and they just, every time they talk, they just drop bombs and they're just like so helpful and you buy their book or you read their blog post or their newsletter, you're like, oh my gosh, I have a problem today that I know he would have an answer for. I really wish he had a product or a place or a workshop or a seminar or something that I could go spend time to get clarity around my problem. Those are the best scenarios. I created content for almost a decade before I ever sold my first book. And when it launched in 2023, it sold 20,000 copies in its first two weeks, becoming a number two behind Atomic Habits, Wall Street Journal bestselling book. It only sold because of the trust I built. Almost a decade of content. The value I poured into my audience without ever asking for anything. I always prioritize trust first. I think it like this, okay? You give away your information as much as you can, your best stuff, and then people pay you for implementation. And there's only three ways to make money from your personal brand. The first one is ad revenue, okay? The platform pays you for views. Like YouTube, for example, and now it's a slow build and it's unreliable, but over time, the YouTube revenue can cover the cost of your production, your editors, your videos. It's a wild thing to watch. And that's just ad dollars that come in because when you publish on a platform, they need to make money to cover their costs. And then all of a sudden, if you do it for long enough and it grows, you can make a lot of money from it. You essentially get a portion of the ads that people spend to run ads on top of your videos. Two is brand deals. And this is where most people make their money, where they get paid by a brand to create content, to collaborate. Now it can be wild money, it can be good money, but you do need to align with the right partners, okay? Most creators do this, the ones that suck at it align with shitty partners and they're willing to sell their soul for anybody's money. And the third, and it's one of my favorite, is you own the product or service that you talk about in your content. It's got the highest upside because one, you built the product, you're aligned with the product, you know how the product's gonna get delivered, The audience trusts you, and it's something that you can invest in over and over and over again. Think about Mr. Beast with Feastables. You think about Ryan Trahan with Joyride, Nelk Boys and Happy Dad, or Logan and Prime, and there's a ton of them. Now, that is an advanced move, and most content creators are not business operators, so that one's tougher to do. All I would say is pick one, if it's ads or brand deals or your own products, but go hard, go all in. choose one strategy to monetize, build the trust with your audience, introduce that, and don't try to build them all at once, master one and win. Now, those are the five steps to build a brand, to build trust, to monetize, that's it. See, most people will watch this and they won't do anything with it, but not you. You're here because you're like, you know what? I resonate with this and I know that I need to grow my business, I gotta create content, I gotta build my personal brand, I have to do it in a way that gets the right ideal customers and builds trust. So I need you to make a commitment below and let me know, are you gonna go live for 30 days in a row? Not a lot of people are gonna do it, but if you are, type the comment 30 below and let me know. Pick the platform, is it Facebook, Instagram or other, maybe even X. Go live for 30 days, practice talking to the camera, practice talking to your audience, practice creating value and comment below and let me know. Now don't forget, if you want my exact content playbook to help you create viral content, Just find me on Instagram, Dan Martell, and DM me the word YouTube content, and I'll send it over. Thanks for listening to the Martell Method. If you liked this episode, could you do me a huge favor and go leave a review? This helps us get the podcast more ears and helps more people get unstuck, reclaim their freedom, and build their empire.