#2436 - Whitney Cummings

The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. That's just for Dice to hold. Yeah, he just holds on to him. Oh! And he holds on to him, then he swaps him out for a new one. Was the unlit cigarette like the original fidget spinner? Well, most people don't do it because most people don't do it. Well, most people don't do it because most people when they have a cigarette in their hand, they want to light it. But Dice has got the ability to just hold on to the cigarette. Do you remember when candy cigarettes were a toy for kids? Yeah, I had those. Oh yeah, they were priming you. Totally, and they would poof, like sugar would come out. No, I don't remember that. Oh yeah, you'd go, and like powdered sugar would come out. Really? Yeah. Am I right, Jamie? Am I making that up? Yeah, maybe like a candy that you suck on. Or was that just the cocaine my parents put on it? Yeah, it was just a candy stick. A nasty chalk stick. Maybe there was a different one. Maybe there's more than one kind of candy cigarette. Couldn't you, there was like gummy cigars, I remember, and then the candy cigarettes. That must have been them just trying to get you addicted to just like the motion of it, or like participate with your parents or something. Yeah, it was just a way to sell candy, but probably also engineered by the tobacco companies. That was back when they were lying about cigarettes being addictive too, and causing cancer. They used to prescribe it to pregnant women, right? They used to prescribe it for kids with asthma. Yeah, they used to strengthen those lungs, that fella. And this is my favorite thing, did they know? They already knew. Yeah, they already knew. They already knew. Everybody had to know. You smoke cigarettes for a while, you start coughing up black shit, you feel terrible. According to the internet, this pack did have some sort of wood-blow smoke, according to this person on Facebook. Whoa. I don't remember a play lighter or a lighter battery, so... A battery? I don't know what that is. Smoke that was stuck on this battery. What the fuck? As kids, we would suck on actual batteries. Oh yeah, remember when you lick them? Dude, we would just try to like, just a square one. Yeah, the nine volts. We'd be in school just like, lick it, lick it, lick it. You just used to get a jolt in your tongue. It is wild now, like, yes, the phones are obviously very bad for kids, but when you think about the stuff we did as kids, I was just like, I would just hang out with a light socket for like two hours, that's all I needed. A paper clip, light socket, like... Light socket. Or like a, yeah, the... Electric socket? Electric socket. You would go into an electric socket with a paper clip? Did no one else do this? That's really bad. Did you inhale glue or no? Oh, I sniffed it. Rubber cement? Yeah, I go, okay. Oh, I used to love making models. I used to make like Godzilla models. Oh, with glue? Remember those models? Yeah, you had rubber cement glue. Yeah, yeah, you would, and Elmer's too. Yeah. Peel it off your skin, we just put it on your skin and just peel it off. Oh yeah. Just like a leprosy fetish or something. Yeah. Well, the rubber cement glue was a big one though. A lot of people sniff glue. We used to have a glue gun. My mom had a glue gun. For what? Like a hot glue gun, crafts, arts, crafts. Okay. Kill men. I don't know. When you look back at shit, your parents did, you're like, what was that? What were you interested in? Why did she have powdered gold and put it in coffee of the men she was dating? What was that? But like a glue gun. Like there's just so much dangerous shit growing up. When I think about my injuries as a kid, I'm like, yeah, I got burned on the glue gun. Everyone's like, huh? Yeah, they weren't looking out for kids back then. Like when did they start like worrying about dangerous toys? I mean, after like the 50th Lawn Dart, you know, aorta, puncture. Oh, I remember Lawn Dart. It's those are crazy. You're just throwing like. It's a fucking weapon and they were heavy. If they hit you in the head, you would die. Dude, just like tetanus. Right in the heart. Like right. Let's look this up. How many people do you think have died from Lawn Dart? Lawn Dart. It has to be. By the way, way more than is reported for sure. Right, right, right. I'm just putting this here so I don't get it. It has to be dozens. And sea sauce. Oh, yeah. You remember sea sauce? No sea belt. No. Just just plywood. Right. With a handle. But we would also add such a testament to our nature because we would make it even more dangerous. Like remember, like you'd be on the sea salt. Like if you were up, I would. You'd like jump off it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. To watch the kids. Just to watch the kid fucking plummet to the earth. So sadistic. Just careen to the ground. Okay. What is our sponsor perplexity said? Pointed metal Lawn Darts were officially linked to three child deaths in the United States before they were banned. Just three? Definitely more than that. Officially linked from 78 to 86, approximately 6,100 to 6,700 people were treated in U.S. emergency rooms for Lawn Dart injuries. Most of them children. Found Lawn Dart injuries led to a 4% case fatality rate in its patient sample with many severe eye injuries, which helped justify the eventual ban. So only a couple, but mostly children. I would like to know the story of the adults. But I mean people hit people with shovels. All the time. I guess it was because Lawn Darts are a toy that they had to ban it. Yeah, there was a lot of that. Remember, what are the pogo sticks? I mean, those were so dangerous when you think about it. They were just like, they were just like always. They still have those though. Pogo sticks, those were hard to do. They looked up the most dangerous toys for kids. Trampolines, remember the ones with the metal coils? Oh, did you ever see the Atomic Energy Lab in the 1950s? Yes. Yeah, it actually had legitimate radioactive material. I love it. They were like, you know what, guys, child labor, this is inhumane, this is wrong, come, go. Play with some toys. Here's a radioactive uranium bomb. Well, didn't Michio Kaku make some sort of a reactor in his basement or his backyard or something like that when he was a child? What is the highest point? Yeah. Legend. Well, he's like a legitimate scientist. But I mean, when he was a child, he made a fucking nuclear reactor in his backyard. I went to get Nyquil or Sudafed the other day and they made me show my ID. Oh yeah, because you can make math with it. Right, right, right. Sick. Meanwhile, you can get a prescription for Adderall. We just say you have ADHD. I don't even think you have to do that. You just have to be like, I'm bored. Right. I'm neurodivergent. That's just you. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's all self-diagnosed. You know, I can't concentrate. Are we going to look back the way that we look at, like, you know, the Nazis and go like, they were on meth? Are we going to look back in like 20 years and be like, everyone was on meth? Yeah, everyone's on Adderall. That's for damn sure. I mean, the amount of journalists that are on Adderall is off the charts. Sure. And you know, they're telling me, like, all of his colleagues take Adderall. To help them work? Yeah. Because they have so many projects that they're doing that require intense fucking research. And they're... Googling, saying chat GPT, please write my article for me. Did you see, I think it was in New York Times, there's someone left in. Jamie, do you remember the prompt that ends the, you know, what it spits out on chat GPT? Oh, God. To prove that they had just copy and pasted it? Like, wild. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of shitty people in every walk of life. There's bad doctors, bad plumbers, bad journalists. But a lot of them are on Adderall. A lot of them are on speed. It's just that there's so much adrenaline out there to get. There's so many like natural ways I feel like to get that, you know. Yeah, but I don't think he covers it. And I think if you really want to like sit in front of that fucking computer and bang out words, it seems like Adderall's the way to go. But if you really do have ADD or whatever this is, like I'm the first to say like what are all these diagnoses? But because I was prescribed five milligrams slow release Adderall to sleep. To sleep. If you actually have it, it calms you down. It doesn't amp you up. What is it? What is it? ADHD? The inability to focus or the- Is that real? A busy brain. Dude, I look, I just, I think a lot of our superpowers are being dull. A lot of people with superpowers are being dulled by pharma and we're being pathologized for actually kind of extreme strengths, you know, in a lot of ways. There's a lot of like legitimate people that are arguing that about ADHD. Okay, good. I'm not like a- No, like legitimate psychologists, neuroscientists, it's what it is is you can't concentrate on things you're not interested in, but you can concentrate on things you're interested in like heavily. Like people that are, that supposedly have ADHD, they can play video games for fucking 10 hours a day. That's right, that's exactly right. Well, how come? Because it's exciting. Oh, they can't sit in a classroom and watch some pedophile lecture them on fake history while they're getting hemorrhoids and some like chair with like shitty lighting above them. I mean, it's like, yeah, of course kids are bored, of course they can't sit still. Exactly. You know, I was reading about how Finland, they don't teach their kids to read until they're like seven because it's better to have them develop their ability to focus first on the things they want to do. So by the time they do learn to read, they actually, you know, can focus. That sounds like a terrible idea. You're going to be so far behind my kids. Well, yeah. I mean, look, kids in America learn how to read when they're little babies. If at all. If at all. If they do. Like, I mean, yeah, that's the other thing when it's like, don't teach kids to read. It's like, by that time is Nerling just going to learn to read for them who knows. It's interesting like having a kid now. I'm like, what do I, what world do I prepare them for? Do I even teach the Mandarin or is that just going to be like, remember when you two just put a song on our phone? It was so weird. Well, that was Apple's idea. And you know, I talked to Bono about that. He was, you know, it was devastating for them because all of a sudden everyone hated you too. They used to love you too. Yeah. They had so many hits. They're so good. And then all of a sudden, fuck you. Why are you on my phone? Is that interesting the human nature of I love something unless you force it on me? Yeah. Well, it's just people are always looking for a reason to complain. And if you have this song on your phone right away, like, hey, fuck these guys. But also I want to hunt. Let me find it. Let me feel like I discovered something. Well, I think they just thought it would be a great way to promote this new album. And they just really didn't understand human nature. It's also, yeah, it used to be like, if you saw five billboards for something, you're like, I got to see that movie. Now you see like five ads for it. And you're like, why are you trying so hard? Like if it's good, I'll hear about it. Yeah, I try to tell it to my friends, like do not get overexposed. Like there's a re I mean, I don't just say no to everything because I'm not interested in doing anything more. Yeah. But it's also because I'm clearly overexposed and you got to know when you're overexposed. But I have friends that like they'll do every fucking interview that anybody asked to do every project that comes up. Yeah. They never have any time like I got to slow down. Like, yeah, you got to slow down. Like, why are you doing all this shit? You're already wealthy. Yeah. Why are you doing this? Be a little mysterious. Live a fucking life. Live a life on top of what you're doing. Live an actual life. Don't wait until you're 60 and go, what did I do? Right. Even if it's for if you need to justify it through workaholic purposes, like it took me so long to get out of my workaholism. The first time I had to do it by justifying it by going, I'll be better at my work. If I have a life like for art to imitate life, you have to have a life. That's how I'm going to go get stories. That's how I'm going to go. You know, I think especially as a comic now, there's a lot of funny people out there. I think if we've learned anything from memes and stuff, you're like, I don't, this guy just works at Best Buy and who made this meme? This is hilarious. You know, I think in the beginning, a lot of it was like stolen from comics. Remember like that fat Jewish shouldn't. Oh yeah, whatever happened to that guy? There was another one too. I don't know. But he was stealing memes or he was stealing jokes and turning him into memes. There was a couple where you would go like, that's a Mitch Hedberg joke. Like that's definitely a Stephen Wright joke or Demetri or something, but like Zach Alfonakis or it would be lesser known comics. You know, like they go to a lesser known comic field like people that wrote for Fallon or Leno, you know, and showcase night at the store or like get their tweets. You can just pull their tweets and change it a little bit. Whatever happened to that guy? Because he was hated. Boy, when he got started getting exposed, he was hated and then he just kind of vanished. There was another huge for a while. There was another one too. And I don't remember the name of it that was doing the same exact thing. But the fat Jewish guy almost seemed like he was like a corporate created entity. Because he had like the crazy hair, right? That weird fucking bun. That's right. Yeah, he was like a slob. Like, but he had like a wine like it. And as a bush for millions of dollars, I don't know how much. What did he sell? A rose rose. Right. What is rose? It's a type of wine, but that's what the brand was called. Oh, no, no, no, I know what rose. The brand was called to that is like my heart cannot take. He made a rose called Rose. I know the rose the wine is called Babe. I see that now. Rose company called Babe. Oh, so he sold his wine and then he just like I'm out for millions. And now, yes, he's about to open a bank. Oh, God, where do I sign up? What it must be hilarious if he's opening up a bank. Definitely didn't steal those jokes. Yeah, most most really hilarious people want to open a fucking bank. I love that he's just like, I'm Jewish. What am I good at? Open a bank. What? When we turn out, it's not even Jewish. Exactly. Baptist. Yeah, Jews are like, we're not fat. What is it like your shirt together? But also, yeah, that was so like for a second, I was like, Joe, there's a chance he doesn't know what Rose is. No, no, no, no, I know what that is. You know, like I just thought it was a company. It's what like the rainy street killer gives his victims before pushing him off. Dude, your boy Brandon over here, I was like, what's up with the rainy street killer? I always want the updates on the Austin serial killer who's pushing gay dudes up bridges. And he said, he's like, I think it's tech, tech guys. They come down from San Francisco during South by Southwest and he strikes when it's like a tech conference. Really? And he doesn't live here. Yeah. They're trying to pretend that it's not really a serial killer. The cops want to say it's not really a serial killer. And like that. How many guys have to drown before you start getting nervous? So they're only gay that these guys? Well, it's a gay neighborhood. That's the thing. Not all of rainy street, but there's a lot of like gay bars and gay spots on rainy street. How do the cops know the victims are gay? They just like. Check their assholes. They're like, hey, like I fucked his, I fucked the corpse's asshole. He's gay. You know, I've seen that guy in Grindr. He is gay. That reminds me of like the Nazi. I've it's been 10 minutes and I've brought up Nazis twice. The Nazis also killed gay people and like I'm obsessed with how there were Nazis that had to find out who was gay. So did Christians. Oh, really? Of course, it's in the Bible. Like I just fucked these guys. They are gay. Let's get them. In the old days in the Bible, if a man layeth with another man, you're supposed to be put to death. That means like someone signed up to be like, I'll do it. I'll I'll investigate who's gay around here. Well, I think is though. They were all gay. Yeah. That's the crazy thing. Like if you go back in history, guys were fucking each other all the time. Yeah. The Spartans did it. They had a philosophy that you would defend your lover more because like if you were fighting alongside a man that you loved, you would defend him more. Was it love? Is that what love is? Still trying to figure it out. Everybody's got their own definition for that. Like what is it? Yeah. Love is mysterious. That's that's wild. I was like, what are the things we're doing now that we're going to look back in 50 years and remember in 2006 when they were doing that. Trans surgeries. 100%, especially on children. Also having phones 24 seven. 100%. Phones will be like cigarettes will be like, no, no, it'll be in your body by then. Oh, right. It'll be fun. They'll be laughing. Men really need stuff to carry your phone around. Right. Back in my day, you could leave your phone at a restaurant. Remember when you couldn't just print from your mouth? Mm hmm. Remember when you could find a phone and just make calls from it because there was no passwords? You found someone's flip phone. You just open that bitch up and start calling people. Yeah. You have to shut your phone off. You'd have to go to the Verizon store and go, hey, shut my fucking phone off. And by then it was just. Yeah, the guys were calling China. That was the other thing you would have roaming charges. Do you remember those? Yes. Also remember when you lost your phone and that was it? Oh, yeah. Now I can find my phone within my own house. It'll tell me where Rumit's in. Well, not only that, if I don't find my phone, I could just go to the Apple store and my phone is in the cloud. And then instantaneously, I get a new phone that's the same phone as my old phone with all my messages, all my notes, which is even more. My notes are more important than my messages because I keep so many material ideas. But you back them up. Oh, yeah. Always. This episode is brought to you by visible. Have you heard of visible? It's the one line wireless with unlimited data and hotspot for $25 a month. Taxes and fees included all on Verizon's 5G network. It's the ultimate wireless hack to save money and still get great coverage and a reliable connection. Got a resolution to save. Kick 2026 off right now for a limited time. New members can get the visible plan for just $19 a month for the first 26 months. Ring in the new year with code SWITCH26. Share the savings with a deal that's too good to keep quiet. Switch now at visible.com. Terms apply, limited time offer, subject to change. See visible.com for plan features and network management details. Yeah, that is, not only do I back them up, but I use other apps as well. I use Evernote, I back them up. Oh, yeah. I like Evernote and Elephant was one I was using for a while. It's like same thing, helps organize because you can also search by keyword. You know, because sometimes, like I've, look, Mom Brain is real, but I think it's kind of good. I think it's like a software update. It's like deleting shit I didn't need to be remembering anyway. That's a nice way of coping. You know, like my hippocampus was just full of some, I actually in some ways feel like you might be smarter if you forget half the shit you know, because half the shit we learned has been debunked anyway. Like half of like science in history, like is not even, so me unknowing it might even make me smarter. Like Andrew Huberman was having a conversation with a professor at Stanford and he said what percentage of what's in medical journals and what's taught in school is no longer applicable. He said at least 50 percent. Unbelievable. At least 50 percent of the stuff that they were telling people. Like look, they just turned the food pyramid upside down. Crazy. The food pyramid not only did it used to just be like like brand muffins, it was just like bear claw. Like what the fuck? You need spaghetti. That's number one. Spaghetti O's at the base. So crazy. Ravioli slightly above that. And remember they just had a fish with like eyeballs like that. That's actually probably a good one now. But but at the top, you know, now like the littlest amount of stuff you're supposed to get is grains and you're supposed to get meat and eggs at the bottom, which was always. I mean, look, there was a study that was like widely criticized fairly recently that labeled fruit loops as being healthier than ground beef. But who sponsored that study? That's the thing about all these things. It's like, who are these people and can I see them naked? Yeah, it's it. Take your fucking clothes off. Let me see what you look like. That's my same thing about quotes. You know how like we're in this quote culture where you'll just like and you probably don't have this in your algorithm. It's like inspiring quotes. And I'm like, I need to know who said it. I need to know who said it. A lot of times it's fake. You'll you'll see quotes attributed to Einstein. Sure. And then I'll try to find out if it's real and it's not. Right. Right. Right. But it's just sort of like it's like slightly anti-semitic quotes. You know, you're like, hmm, oh, Aristotle really say this. Right. Right. The Stoics. Yeah. Like. I don't know, man. But you weren't even Jews back then. There was this guy talking about. I'm going to unfollow Ari Shafir once and for all. But that it said General Mills on it. It said GM on the side when we were all looking at this pyramid, we knew that General Mills put this pyramid out. And we didn't even think that there was a conflict of interest there. Well, do you know how the whole Kellogg's like serial thing came about? The Jerry Seinfeld movie. No, Kellogg's. Yeah. Do you know, like why he decided to make show like these bland serials? Why? To keep people from masturbating. Sick. That was the whole idea behind it, to give people bland food so that they wouldn't get aroused. Is that what causes erections, asking for a friend? Yes. Does that how I can. The only way. The only way. Is that how to turn my guy on? Yes. Spicy food. Put it on your pussy. Because I remember the Seinfeld thing was the post. That was pop charts. So this is how actual serial was invented. Serial. Breakfast serial. Kellogg's breakfast serial. Specifically, he was like some sort of a weird puritan. Hey, let's let's look it up because he had some really bizarre ideas. But the primary idea was that if you feed kids bland food, it would stop them from being horny. Kids. Kids. Do kids get horny? I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Like 13, 14, 15. OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. Teen boys. Well, as soon as the hormones start going. Sure, sure, sure, sure. I remember being like, where is all this coming from? Like you're all of a sudden horny, like where you were never horny. And then all of a sudden you're 12 and it starts coming on like a storm. Yeah. And then you're 13. Like what the fuck. And all your female teachers want to fuck you. It's because of you live in Florida. They're all just letting you motorboat them between periods. I think you made that wrong. Yeah, it is. Once you have a kid, like it really is. I feel so cliche, like about the ways you change once you have a kid, everyone warns you and you're like, OK, OK. I mean, you really look at every authority figure around kids differently. Every teacher, every coach, you just like, what are you what are you in this for? Like, you're not in it for the money. Right. You're going to pay nothing. You don't have kids to go to school. Like what are you up to, dude? Indoctrinating kids. Here it is. Brand flakes. No, Kellogg's brand flakes were not created to stop kids from getting horny. But the broader Kellogg's serial story is tied to some very weird anti sex ideas from the 19th and 20th century. Kellogg's brand flakes were introduced in 1915 as a high fiber breakfast cereal market as a health food, a digestion, promote better for you breakfast. Where the sex myth comes from? John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and seventh day Adventist, there it is, did believe that bland, plain diets, especially cereal and nuts, could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation. And he pushed those ideas at his sanitarium. So what the fuck is the no, it's a myth. It's not a myth. This is his idea. He believed it and he sold that stuff. How can they say that's a myth? Can you imagine how hard the publicistic Kellogg's are working? Yeah, because to make sure that's not on the internet. It's listed saying that it's a myth. That's the only reason why a perplexity is getting confused, because there's a bunch of propaganda saying it's not. All you have to do is look at the first thing. John Harvey Kellogg believed that plain, bland diets could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation. And he sold plain, bland food. And back then, cereal was pretty much just for kids. You can assume that it's going to be targeted at kids. These beliefs are most closely associated with early flake cereals like corn flakes and his general biological living health philosophy, not with brand flakes, whatever. So how true is the rumor? It is fair to say that some of Kellogg's early cereal experiments were influenced by his belief that plain foods could encourage sexual restraint. So it is a good rumor. So why are they saying that it's not that it's a myth? I typed in bran instead of corn flakes. And it's just a brand. There's four. Yeah, it was it was the bland, bland. Did you think I said bran? I mean, I typed in bran because I meant bland. But yeah, I know. But bran is like a little bit more flavorful. I used to really like bran cereal. I love raisin bran. Yeah, it's delicious. Raisin bran is the bomb diggity. So filling. It's so good. Especially frosted raisin. Oh, with the sugar. I would and we would pour sugar on it, too. Because we always thought sugar just gave you cavities. Nobody thought it was killing you. So we take scoops of sugar and just throw it on those fucking raisin bran balls. Frosted flakes was my shit. Oh, yeah, I was a big Captain Crunch man myself. Peanut butter. Oh, yeah. Captain. Captain. Yeah. Captain Crunch. Captain Crunch. We used to mix White Trash Shall I Die, Apple Jacks with Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Those are good ones. Now what, RFK? Now what? Yeah, you better let me keep having those. You know, I don't think you should ban those, man. I think like it's important to have restraint and to have the option to do something and then... How about have a little fucking discipline? Every... That's it. That's it. Yeah. That's it. How about give me the Fruit Loops with the die? I want to look at pretty colors. Mm-hmm. I want my shit to be neon. I'm not going to get cancer if I eat one bowl. Okay, shut up. That's the other thing. It's like the stress is the worst for us. So the stress about like, should I eat it? Should I eat it? Is worse than just eating it? I was just talking to a friend who has suffered multiple heart attacks from stress. His doctor says there's nothing wrong with his arteries. Right. And he's gotten these heart attacks because literally his body constricts. He's in like a very serious situation. And his body constricts so heavily that his arteries fucking close up and he has heart attacks. So what is the difference between... Because I'm all about good stress on your body, like exposing yourself to good stress and then bad stress. Your body knows the difference, right? Bad stress is going to be like the cortisol and then good stress. That's like adrenaline, right? Well, I'm hoping you're going to cut me off. Please cut me off. Hormetic effect. So the hermetic effect is like, there's an argument with certain foods, right? There's an argument against certain foods, like that they have phytochemicals in them. So what they have is like an actual toxin that discourages predation. Right? But some of that is actually has a hermetic effect. And it's actually good for you. Like what's a good one? Broccoli sprouts. You know, what does that have? Phosphorophane. What is it? What is the word? I can't remember the... Photosynthesis. Something. No, photosynthesis is how they convert sunlight into food. But like when you're doing good stress, like exercise and... Sulfurophane? Is that what it is? Yeah, I think you just said it as I was. I think that's the word. I think it's Sulfurophane. Got it right down the screen. Sulfurophane. Yeah, Sulfurophane. A plant compound formed when you chew or chop broccoli sprouts, which activates an enzyme that converts a precursor called glucoraphanein into Sulfurophane. Broccoli sprouts have far higher levels of glucoraphanein. Glucoraphanein. And mature... They mature broccoli, which is why there are such a concentrated source of Sulfurophane. So you're eating the plant stress. That's... Well, plants do release chemicals. You want to hear a crazy one? This is really nuts. Plants are intelligent in some sort of a weird way. And one of the things they found is that if, like, say if a giraffe is eating certain bushes and they're eating them upwind. And so the wind comes down and the other plants recognize that they're being consumed. And so they change their chemical profile to make them disgusting. It starts tasting bad. Horses, same thing. Horses will all be grazing in one place and then they'll just pivot out of nowhere and you're like, what's going on? And they'll move to different grass. Yeah, it's like the grass realizes that it's happening. Oh, my God, it's a grass apocalypse. And like, let's off some kind of, you know, asset or something. Nuts. Wild. So this is the argument against consuming plants that all the carnivore people use is that there's these chemicals. Like find out what the chemicals they talk about. What are the chemicals that carnivore diet people think are dangerous from plants? And the idea is that plants can't defend themselves. They're stationary. And so what they do is they release things that make them disgusting. Got it. Makes sense. It is like, you know, after having being pregnant, I kind of just surrendered to being like, what if I just ate what I craved? Like, let me just let my body wisdom or whatever, like kind of go, you know, and it was sourdough bread, not regular bread, just sourdough, which I wonder if that's allowed on the pyramid. It's a lot better for you. Right. Yeah. Sourdough bread, eggs and meat, no salad. Like it made me like nauseous to like even think about salad. But maybe that was just my blood type or whatever it was. My wife was really into frozen pizza rolls. Those little disgusting things that I would buy them for her. I'm like, are you sure? That is a Texas bitch. Like through and through. Carnivore diet advocates, advocates often argue that many common plant compounds are toxic or anti-nutrients that harm digestion hormones and or nutrient absorption. Carnivore Amphilens usually group these under umbrella, anti-nutrients or plant defense chemicals. Oxylates is one for sure. Oxylates is terrible for you. But the way to get around that is cooking them. So like this is like I used to, I used to always drink kale smoothies. I used to take kale and throw it in there with garlic and ginger and drink a smoothie every day. Then you left LA. No, I mean, I felt fine doing it. I never got kidney stones or anything like that. But then I started reading about oxalates and then I had a bunch of people on. It told me that you can get kidney stones. And I did actually get my blood work done and it was high in oxalates. But also that's from almonds. I eat a lot. I used to eat a lot of almonds. Lectins, grains, beans, nuts. There it is. Promote leaky gut, autoimmunity and general gut irritation. Phytates. What is that? Phytic acid, grains, legumes and nuts criticized for binding materials that and reducing their absorption. Tannins or other polyphenols described by some meat advocates as additional plant defenses that can inhibit nutrient absorption or act as pro-oxidants. But one of the things that I've heard from people that are pretty knowledgeable is that the issue might not be the actual plants itself. It might be pesticides. That's the other thing. That's the worst thing you can eat at a restaurant anywhere is salads because it's just covered in pesticides. Like I am washing my fruit and vegetables more than I wash my own. See if this is true because I read this that 100% of all California wines tested positive for glyphosate. And out in Malibu, Raytheon, because there was a Raytheon plant. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And cum, actually. Rocket dine used to be in my neighborhood. Wild. Yeah. I wonder if I got juiced up. Remember when I went out and before I had a kid and I was just fighting people over rescuing giraffes, I had an instinct to mother and I was just mothering everything except an actual baby, including giraffes. And the wine that was made up there at that place, Malibu Safari, a test of positive for Raytheon and people were getting sick. For Raytheon. Uh-huh. How do you test positive for Raytheon? Like the Raytheon. They tested 10. Okay. They tested 10 in a 2016 investigation by ABC7 News, Beyond Pesticides, reported that 10 out of 10 California wines tested positive for glyphosate. Whoa. That's nuts. I'm obsessed with these sort of health and wellness sort of myths and where do they like wines, good red wines, good for you. Like what alcoholic like made that popular? Remember, it's like it's got resveratrol. It's like the amount you would need to get the amount of resveratrol that would make a difference is it would kill your liver anyway. But like dark chocolate is good for you. Like these things we just like. I think dark chocolate is good for you though. Is it? Yeah. I think that's legit. I don't think wine is necessarily bad for you. I think alcohol is bad for you, but I think it also loosens you up and makes you happy, which is better for you than being sad, depending on where you are. Right. So if you were the group of people like you and I and a bunch of friends went out to dinner, we all had wine. We're laughing our ass off. That would probably be really good for you. And it removes a little bit of the ability to, and that was always my thing. Like I don't, I've three, three and a half years off, pretty much anything. I mean, I was pregnant. I have a kid, like, you know, I got to be focused like a toddler is just like suicidal, like, you know, but, uh, you know, I think with, at least I'll just be for myself, my brain, a glass of wine. I'm just able to be present without going, is this a good joke? Which I write about. Like it just takes off that like sort of like interior anthropologist narrative that is like, I always have to be categorizing things and filing things as jokes or cross referencing things and, you know, filing things away for a future standup. And I guess the thing, right? It's cause you always need new jokes. It's like you're always farming. And when you hear something that's like, oh, that'd be such a good premise is like, ah, you know, sometimes I'll just like do what you do. I'll put it in notes to just file it away just so that I'm not thinking about it so much. That's the only thing that keeps me sane. Cause if I don't do that, if I don't, it's going to get away from me. I have, at least my family knows, like sometimes I'll jump up from the dinner table and I have to run away because I know it's slippery. I'm like, this idea is slippery. I'll be right back. I got an idea. Let me just write it down. Let me just write it down. I have to write it down and I come back and I don't tell them the idea because it's usually they're like, what? Yeah, yeah, trust me, it's going to sound bad. No. Okay. Jews, Jews do run the meat. Just let me, let me flesh it out. This idea about Jews and blacks. But yeah, as long as I'm able to write it down, then I can be present. Then you know you saved it. And Neil Brennan used to say that his book, joke book was basically like a net for catching ideas. Love it. I have one great premise. Promise I have a joke. Like I'll write it down in my notebook, but I'll of course leave it somewhere. And it just looks like my suicide note. It's just like words that's just like kegels, you know, a Pseotomy. Like it's just crazy words. But, and that's the other thing that I think having a kid gave me that I didn't even know was possible, which is what I thought like weed or, you know, a glass of wine or whatever before was, I've always just been trying to figure out how to get present, like be in the present moment, you know, which by the way, is there a biological basis for being in the present moment? Probably, it's probably, you know, was, you know, a detriment back in the day. You want to be like two steps ahead or this is what just happened. And like eating that berry was bad, like being the present moment probably got you killed back then, but. That's what they think ADHD is about. It's about being a persistent hunt. We have a problem with the software that we're running and perhaps maybe the computer. So the last few episodes. Jamie, please cut my audio. Reddit will love this episode. They don't love anything. Just cut me out of it. There's a bunch of people I'd like to see naked. Negative red accommodators, like you guys need to go outside. Touch grass, babes. I look at those guys and I'm always just a guy's girls, whoever. Like I'm an I go and write it, but like. They're non binary. All of them. I always think like if we didn't get to do what we do, would we be doing that? 100% I would. I would say that like when people are like really mean to celebrities online and comments, I'm like, I would do that. One thousand one million percent. If I was 16 years old and I had a fucking Twitter account and they have a plane. Yeah. Yeah, fuck you. Like asshole. Like, yeah, I'd be going after everybody. I would 100% that was all, especially if I get them to respond. Right. I'd be like, woo. I got them on the hook. Look at this. And then like Kimmel would like read negative comments on his show. Like you can get on a show. Is it, which is by the way, what's happening with like crowd work. People come to shows now trying to get into a crowd work video. Just heckling it. Yeah. Yeah, especially if the someone is known for responding to hecklers. Oh no, the first four rows are people that are like in hair and makeup. They have like hats on like their tits are out. Like they're ready with their like, hey bitch. And I'm like, I'm not filming this show guys. Sorry. People just want to be a part of something. Do you want to know where I'm from? Say I don't, I don't care. I'm in Austin. I know you live. I don't give a shit. Well, that's the weird thing about social media and the internet in general is that everyone has a voice now, which is great. And it's also terrible. Yeah. It's both things. It's great because some people emerge from that voice. Just like we were talking about memes. Some of the hardest laughs that I get during the day are these memes that anonymous people have created and someone sends me. Same. And I'm like, same. And then I send them to people who the fuck made it. Can we pause one second again? I it's now not recording the audio, even though we can hear everything. It just stopped all of a sudden. Did it record any of what we just said? Because that was fucking cold. It is still going. It is still going. It's not. God. I'm going to trust it. It's just not visually showing up. We'll trust it. Oh boy. Sorry. Having a conversation about being in the present moment and you're like, wait, you didn't record that. Yeah. I was being so present. Damn it. I have to. It's I think, you know, we're in this weird transitionary period where we have a new technology and that allows everyone to have a voice. And I think overall it's very good because you have more voices and it's just people have to discern what's a valuable voice and what's not. And you know, that's where I tell people, don't read the fucking comments. It's not good for you because you're getting too many non valuable voices. And if you've done a good job of curating your environment and curating your friend group, you've eliminated all these people that are really shitty and bitter and jealous and nasty and also like have no ability to look at themselves. Yeah. But also like to all my, like I was just doing did Norman's podcast with Sam Merrill and they were talking about the comments. And I was like, guys, like I've said worse things to you than any of these comments, more comics. We all sit around and are so much meaner to each other. Me or about other comics. They're there. Totally. It's just sort of like nothing in this comment section is worse than what Tony Hinchliffe just said to me on the phone. To the end of a conversation. You laughed. I just talked to Tim Dillon for an hour. Like I have no self esteem left. Like this is like a warm hug. Like my comment section is where I go for compliments at this point. Sometimes I forget that when I'm hanging out with Normie's, you know, and I'll just drop a bomb. Same. Same. You should have looked at it and said, what the fuck did you say? Like, I thought we were talking shit. No, I did that yesterday. I was checking into the hotel. And we're in Texas. My mom's from Texas, whatever. And this, this dude that works there was wearing like, like cowboy boots, like solid cowboy boots. And I was like, oh, sick cowboy boots. I mean, like they're just high heels for men, but like cool that you guys call them like cowboy boots. And he was just like, and I was like, oh, you, you're going to fight me. Like this is not, I can say that's like Tony Hingecliffe because I'm always like, oh, you moved to Texas so that you could wear heels. He was going through a period of time where he's wearing nothing but cowboy hats and cowboy boots on stage. Dude. And then like a Gucci like, like track suit. Like name a person that knew less about what to do with their money. Tony Hingecliffe. He's doing now. He's wearing vests. He wears vests all the time. It's a thousand degrees outside. Pull up proof vests after the, he was at the Trump rally. Smart. So the Puerto Ricans have guns, don't we? The Puerto Ricans love him. Yeah, they do. There's any group of people that are great at talking shit. It's Puerto Ricans. It's like Jennifer Lopez cut to her like crying because she's like, what are jokes? But yeah, I love. She doesn't count. So I, have you made your will? Oh yeah. Okay. So I'm making my will soon. What should we, as soon as you have a kid to like make a will or else your craziest family member is going to like get your son. You know, and I have him. And, um, and I, am I allowed to make a fun? Like I want to make like a funny will. Like I want to give Brian Holtzman like a million dollars just to see what he'll do with just to look down from heaven and just see him with like. He can't even buy suspenders. Just calf implants. Like just like, like seeing what Tony did with his money, like watching all these comics, like Bobby Lee, he just like shows up in like women's shoes. Like he'll just be in like, you know, those like golden goose sneakers. They're like $700. They're bedazzled. He wears bedazzled sneakers. Well, they're like golden goose. Do you know they shoes? Yeah. I have a pair of golden. Yeah. But they're like shimmery with like leper. I like it's weird because golden goose, they come out worn out. Like you buy, I bought them in Aspen. Yeah. You buy them worn out and everybody was really into it. I'm like, they're already pre-worn. Like this is weird. It's like when you did like, bought jeans with holes in them. Right. Like ahead of time. Like three. I never did that by the way. Yeah. No, that's not, that's a lie. I did it for a while. And then I was like, what was wrong with that? Yeah. It's like, but I like holes in the knees because you can move around more. Like that's actually useful. I'll always cut holes. Oh, you need to buy like stretchy jeans. You know what? I did start buying stretchy jeans. And this is actually the worst thing I've done since becoming a mom. You just become such a dork, except your wife, your wife is like, she's like my hero. I'm like, how do you stay? Why are you so hot? Like your mom, you're like allowed to just look like Rachel Maddow, but you do this. Like I need to get back on the horse because I started buying sweat pants that look like jeans. And I'm just like, what am I doing? Like it's just, Well, there's a bunch of jeans like that that you can get now. What are those? Oh, they're called perfect jeans. Those are really good. I got a few pairs of those. I think that's what they're called, right? Perfect jeans. Like stretchy guys. Yeah, those are great. Reptown, Reptown makes great pair. They're great. Yeah. Barbell, barbell jeans. Oh, nice. They're nice. Yeah, they're made for people with big thighs. Yeah. Cause my jeans wear out in the middle because my thighs are always rubbing together. Right. Oh, like in the, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where they tear open. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I need, and I need to be straight. I need to, I can't wear something that I can't kick somebody in. But also, fuck yes. So good to be in Texas where the real men are. That's how they think. My fiance's like. I was thinking like that. All your whole life. It's so funny. My fiance's like, he's just, you don't realize till you date a very straight guy that you've only dated a guy. A very straight guy. Like I always was like, oh good, metrosexual. Like my dude, my favorite thing to do is ask him what he's thinking about. Not like, what are you thinking about? Like hoping it's me or like our wedding or something. I'm just like fascinated. I'm on the edge of my seat. And it's usually like, if I could fight that guy. Or the Roman Empire. My God, dude. Just like jerking off, thinking about tigers tearing apart criminals. Like what about the Roman Empire? Exactly. That's so crazy when you think about it. I mean, didn't didn't species go extinct? Because of the Roman Empire? Because of the Colosseum fights. I don't believe that's true. I've never heard that. When I did like a tour of it, they said that, but I'm sure they were just trying to. Yeah, they're trying to juice you up. Well, let's find out. Even if they did, how could they prove it? I guess it's. Well, they don't really. There's a lot of like speculation that's probably erroneous about why certain animals went extinct, including woolly mammoths. Also, there's a lot of animals out there that maybe you guys can't find. We don't. Oh, yeah. We don't know. Like, oh, OK. And not to bring up California. But have you seen this doomsday fish? What's that? It's a fish that only appears when an earthquake is about to happen. Oh, great. And they're coming up around Monterey and California. It's like it's like a syringe with fins. Really? You know, these like fish at the bottom, bottom of the ocean that we. Oh, and they're getting away from the bottom because they feel. Coming up. It's coming. They're like coming up to the surface. Or see. I've never heard of this before. But my brain also goes like maybe they've been around and you just haven't seen them, but that's true. It's not like we have cameras down there at all times. Yeah. Coliseum animal fights did not clearly drive any species to global extinction, but they did help wipe out or severely reduce some regional populations and subspecies. Like what? Yeah, these tunts killed animals on a huge scale. Ancient sources describe thousands of animals killed in single festivals and tens of thousands over imperial rains. Modern historians argue that this sustained demand contributed to local or regional disappearances, especially when combined with hunting, habitat loss and warfare. Well, that like just what they did in America with market hunting. They almost wiped out everything in America because no one had ice, right? So you had to get meat every day. So they wiped out almost all deer. They wiped out elk from elk used to be in all 50 states. And now they're only in a few. They wiped out almost all of them. And this is fascinating to me that just the Roman Coliseum thing, because I think that my brain always does whenever it's like, can you believe people in the comments are trashing Sabrina Karp or whatever. It's like, yeah, people used to go watch, you know, people have their limbs torn apart by lions and sit there and like cheer and suggest they would yell out how to kill people like that. You know, they would go watch the town square. People get hanged. Like this is right on time. They'd watch people have sword fights. This is the most humane version of publicly shaming people we've done thus far. It's just like you suck. Right. It just hurts your feelings. Yeah. Right. And it only hurts your feelings if you read it. But I also don't think anyone has only made a comment on Joe Rogan's or only on mine. I don't think it's like just personal. Well, it's probably once gets a phrenic person that just concentrates on you. Yeah. Oh, no, I have many of those. Yeah. Yeah. But there's most people are just. But I don't think they're doing it with everyone else. And then, you know. Well, that's the argument that some people have that I completely disagree with that you should it should be your name. Everyone should know who's posting that and that you shouldn't be allowed to post anonymously. My problem with that is that eliminates all whistleblowing. Oh, good point. You know, you're working at some defense contractor and you know, they're doing something horrible or whatever. You're working for some oil company and you know, they're doing something evil. No, you can't you can't have completely anonymous. I mean, you can't have only like recognized accounts where you know the exact person who's posting things because sometimes you need to have anonymous sources. But also it's, you know, essentially, like I'm always interested in, you know, finding the like a quantumist real life version of something digital. So it's like negative things in the comment section. That's like being in a football game and someone being like, Tom Brady, you suck. Like, he obviously doesn't suck. Right. You're wearing a Patriots jersey. Like you obviously love them. You're just like being an idiot, you know, it's kind of like. How about UFC fans? Some of them are the worst. They're like, he's a pussy. Is he? He fights for a living. He fights in his underwear barefoot in a fucking cage for a living. You're calling him a pussy. That's right. People, I mean, and also think about what it would take for you to stop and leave a shitty comment. You would have to be in such a dark, dark place to like need to just like throw a stray at someone. And like, I like to think of it as like a weird service. And maybe this is just me trying to like sublimate it into something positive because like being a female community on the internet. It's like pretty wild. And it's like, I signed up to make people happy or make people laugh or give people some kind of escape from their life. And if you hating me or saying some mean shit gives you like a hit. Like, great. I don't think I came in a comedy being like everyone has to love me. Like that's not possible. Yeah. People hate Chappelle. It's literally not possible. The people I know that take the biggest risks and that, you know, are polarizing like the most interesting comics are polarizing. So if everyone liked me, I'd probably be pretty boring. And well, there's a few people that don't take risks that are hilarious, that aren't polarizing at all, like Nate Bargazzi or Gaffigan. But Sebastian. Sebastian, but Gaffigan got really polarizing when he went political. A lot of people got mad at him for that. That's right. But I think he was drunk. Oh, interesting. He did a pretty sure he was drunk. He likes to throw him back. Was he doing a line though? What's me like doing a line or was he doing it live? Oh, he was on Twitter. Oh, he was on the Trump election. He went crazy and he lost like a giant chunk of fans. People turned on him. You know, he's the hot pockets guy. That's right. He's like involved in politics. It's interesting when that kind of I think that is a comic like it's, you know, and you do something sort of different here. But I never, you know, to take a side just feels so weird. It just feels so bizarre, because I think it's really our job to be able to defend the indefensible, just even as an exercise and to, you know, to be able to deeply believe that two things can be true at once. I think it's the opposite of what wokeies do with animals. So with wokeies, with animals, they're like, adopt, don't shop. I think with your ideas, you should shop around. Don't adopt. Don't adopt like all the ideas that the left has or all the ideas that the right has shop around. Also, breeders are bad. So rescue a dog from a breeder if you need to. Right. Well, some look breeders are bad, right? Okay. I have the best fucking dog in the world and he came from a breeder. Some are good, some are bad. Some rescues are good. Some, some of the worst people on earth are animal rescue people. Some of the worst people on earth work in charities, you know, that's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. Did you see the data about the LA fire money and where it went? Did you see the data of the whole? What was it? How many billion was supposed to be spent on homelessness removal? 24. 24 billion. But just, I'm not even, I'm not even mad. Just tell me where it is. How do you even hide that much money? They don't even know. They literally don't know. But I want to show you this. Did I ever send it to you, Jamie? I know I saved it because it's so crazy. It was like, there was a concert. It was like, yeah. It was a hundred million dollars. But where it went is it literally absolutely nuts. I'm going to find it. Oh, and Jamie, did you find that doomsday fish? I just want to make sure. An article about it from 20 a couple of years ago that said it shows up when doomsday fish. Yeah, there was one up in Monterey. They said that came. I'm obsessed with the fish that we don't know about. OK, I just sent it to you, Jamie. So the House Judiciary Committee released a report on the LA Fire Aid concert among the findings. Fire Aid was used. I mean, this is going to. I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm coughing. Fire Aid was used for activities such as voter participation initiatives. Podcasts, they give a hundred thousand dollars to podcasters, approximately five hundred fifty thousand dollars in donations went to organizations involved in political. Well, that's money laundering. That's just money laundering. Five hundred fifty thousand dollars out of a hundred million. Two hundred fifty thousand dollars was directed towards programs benefiting undocumented immigrants. Look at this. A hundred thousand dollars to podcasters. I want to know who the fuck the podcasters were. They got a hundred grand. Yeah. What do you tie about? Like, what does that mean? Like, did they prevent fires with that money? Five hundred thousand dollars was used to cover salaries, bonuses. Imagine you got a bonus because there was a fire. Consultant fees for non-profit organizations. But if it's a nonprofit, why are you giving it money? And why are you giving them bonuses? Half a million dollars. OK, many worthy nonprofits did receive grants that were used to support victims. This report provides lessons for the distribution of or the disbursement, rather, of any remaining fire aid funds. Go down lower because it keeps going. It's a good racket. Everyone I know that works with a charity has like two houses, like, good for them because they don't have to pay taxes either. There's sorry, there's more where they laid all this stuff out. So this is Kevin Kiley, who is what is his congressman from California? So he's outlining this because he tried to look it up. It's fucking crazy. But I mean, some of that is fucking criminal. This one drives me nuts. Organizations involved in political advocacy. Half a fucking million dollars. Why is anyone advocating for politics? Like, what does that even mean? It's just stealing money. That's right. That's just money laundering. That's just stealing money. Wait, fungus planting projects. What? To plant fungus. Fungus planting. Pulse. What fungus planting projects. Just a growing weed. Yeah, that's right. They're going to do that. That's right. That's it. People from this man. This is what it is, dude. It's like literally like everyone that's pissed at their house caught on fire. Take these mushrooms and you will realize materialism doesn't. It's all bullshit. Yeah, it's just part of the universe. We're all connected. Like if someone else has a house, you have a house too. Like this is the universe telling you to get the fuck out of here. I mean, it is like a lot to process. I mean, there's a point where you're kind of like my brain goes like when there's nothing you can do about it, you're like, what do I do? Like, do I just get mad? Do I just look away? Do I become the person that's retweeting shit and just being that person? Like, you know, the things we have to kind of just decide with our economy of bandwidth, what to be outraged about. And maybe this is it. That idea is like, we'll throw so much at you that you'll just get exhausted. 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I think it's just a function of the whole social media ecosystem. But also they're like, we know we're going to get away with this. Like I just love. But they're not because the Congressman is looking it up. They're definitely going to talk about it. It's going to be a problem for these people. It's going to be a problem during re-election. It's supposed to be. They're monsters. These people are evil. They're really evil. Like what they're doing is stealing money from people that decided they were going to donate money because they thought it was a worthy cause and it wasn't a worthy cause. And also when those fires happened, the idea that it was like donate, it's like, well, you were just in a fire zone too. We pay enough taxes in California to not have to have charities to donate to fire victims. Right. Do you know what I mean? They, charities are such a scam because it's like, well, no, this is where our taxes should be going to stuff. We shouldn't have to have these charities where people are donating money to help. They don't have money either. Well, it's a scam when you find out where the money actually goes. That's when it becomes a scam when you find out that the vast amount, like if you have a hundred million dollars that gets donated to legitimate charity, it's very likely that only 30% or less is going to the actual cause. And that person doesn't pay taxes on top of that because the charities attacks right off. So my taxes aren't going to pay for that cause. And then you're not paying taxes anyway. And then I have to give you extra money. It's just like, it's just such a charity culture is just such a bizarre. Does every country have this charity culture? I don't know. Well, our charity culture is really weird because of USAID. Because USAID, everybody thought of it as like, oh, it's aid. We're giving aid to all these other countries. That's important. People are going to starve. Right. And then you realize like, oh, no, it's not USAID. It's the US Agency for International Development. So a lot of it is about overthrowing foreign governments. A lot of it is about funding these NGOs that are supposedly nonprofit, but people extract the money out of them. Like what's your definition of aid? It's a lot of money laundering. Yeah. A lot of it is money laundering. It's so much. My Mike Benz is the guy to follow on that. And Mike Benz is like, he's gone deep, deep into all this shit and uncovered in insane way. He said that USAID is for things that are too dirty for the CIA. When it's too dirty for the CIA, they send it off to a non-government organization. That's an NGO. So an NGO can do things that the government can't do legally. So they'll go and use this money in a way that our government can't do it, but it's our government's money. So it's your tax dollars go to do things that the government's not allowed to do. And the government just does it that way through an NGO. And people profit massively. And money is just flowing around and no one knows where it goes. Like the $24 billion that went to the homeless problem in California where it only got worse. I don't even get how you hide that much money. I don't even get how you laundered and hide. It just shows you how crazy scams are in this country. But we're learning that out about the Somali daycare thing. But that's just one part of it. The Somali daycares in Minnesota is the tip of the iceberg. California is way bigger. So people are digging into the problems in California now. And they're saying, no, no, no, whatever you thought the fraud was, there was a guy that was running a bunch of daycares. He had no one in California, no one at his organization, no kids, pulled up in a fucking Rolls Royce when they were investigating. A Rolls Royce. Couldn't even just get Alexis. No. They can't. They can't just be cool. It's like Dane Cook's brother or whatever who stole from him, like pulled up in like a Bugatti. It's like you couldn't. Did he really? It was like something, I think something crazy. Like you couldn't have just got an accurate. That's when he found out that his brother was stealing from him. I think it was like a car that pulled up. I know what I. I know what car that sunk Dane Cook's brother. By the way, he got out of jail and the money's still missing. Stop. Yeah. There's a ton of money that they never recovered. He might have hit it in a coffee. There's some real rich hookers and Pensacola. I'll tell you what, he might have blown through all of it, but I'm pretty sure. I mean, you'd have to ask Dane. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that a lot of the money was unrecovered. Donated it to the LA fire victim. Yeah, it's like people that steal like that. Like it's like, for what I understand, it's like kind of a gambling addiction to it's like, I got away with this. Like you get this invincibility complex of like, and now I can get away with this. And then you just get in over your head and you show up one day and a fuck and you know, Ferrari and I'm like, huh? Did you ever see that documentary, The 7-5? No. The 7-5 is all about the 75th precinct in New York and how corrupt it was. It's a really good documentary. I had the guy who was the main guy, Michael Dowd, who was a who was a corrupt cop. Love it. I had him on the podcast and explained it. He said the first day of, I mean, if you watch the documentary, first day working, they threw a guy out of building and killed him. And he was like, shut the fuck up. Like, you know, you know what you saw. Now you didn't see shit, right? And I didn't see shit. Like they killed a guy on his first day on the job. And he's like, OK, this is, this is, I guess, what we do. And so he was selling drugs, robbing drug dealers and showed up at work with a corvette. They had a brand new, bad ass corvette. Corvette under a blanket and just drive a Honda to work. Like, like you could have gotten away with this forever. Get an old pickup truck, stupid. I love that shit, dude. I love it so much. This guy shows up at his fucking daycare in a Rolls Royce. It was like the wild wild country guy. He could have got away with that forever, but it was like the 56th, like B Dazzle Rolls Royce. Everyone was like, I don't know, man. Yeah. Yeah. He had a bunch of Rolls Royces. But God told me I should have these. I was like, huh, I don't know. But the people are retarded. That is one of the greatest things ever. By the people for the people in the pause. Dude. But the people. Are retarded. Tough titties. So so it's for the retarded. But so look at this. 42.1 million. This is the guy. He's trying to cover the car with his body. Pull back and let's let's hear what he says in the beginning of this. Because I mean, with all that money, maybe by some ozempic too, homie. He's eating good. I'm here. He says. Ever since Nick Shirley has done his reporting in Minnesota, we have Iranian daycare centers in California. But here we have 1412 South Crescent Heights, Creative Children Academy. Nobody has come in or out of this facility in nine months. Every window is just boarded up. Yeah, because no one else has kids. Look at his Rolls Royce. Where's the money? Jump. She the way the door opens is so fun. Right. It's one facility where you get this car. I understand how did you get property? Yeah. Did you win the law? That's that's a salt. Don't touch me. This looks fake. It really does. It looks fake as shit. It looks fake as shit. This looks like completely staged. That's just the way he walks up and grabs the car. What when you saw people with cameras and you've got a convertible Rolls Royce part, you would just turn around. It's just too convenient. There's no one there. Why is he there with the car? That looks fake. He's not wearing any brands. That's also there's something in my mind registered his face when he started talking. Wait a minute. Is that the guy? So it's fake. So I just that was like a staged reenactment or something. Yeah, it's it's horseshit. This is like when I repost videos where people have like seven fingers. And it's just bad acting. I saw his face. I saw his face. And my guy's a bad actor. This is like a hallmark special. Well, when he took off the golf hat, like douchebag or vans like before to start his thing, that was just engagement. Yeah, why are you wearing a suit? Why are you wearing a suit? Meanwhile, people are sending that to me like it's real. There it is. That thing. Yeah. But it's basically they want it to be real. Yeah. And by the way, you get to a point with real and fake where you're just like, it might as well be, you know, it might as well be. But that guy, you could tell his face was fake. He's like, what? Yeah, it was. How'd you get me? Yeah. Good on private property. Like the push was a little bitch for someone who's about to lose everything. Like the camera work was pretty good, too. It's just he's just being silly. Yeah. But there's always a lot of that, too. That's the problem. It's just like we live in a strange world and no one investigated where all this money was going in the past. No one investigated. How could you? Well, one of the things that Elon said to me said Medicaid fraud is the biggest amount of money that's fraudulent in this country. And he didn't want to even talk about it because he was worried that people would kill him. That's what he said on the podcast. He goes, I could go into this, but they'll kill me. That's like someone saying they have something they didn't have to get the catastrophe insurance thing because like I had a lot of that. Yeah. Like my dad had a stroke and that you get like it was stolen by a family member. The fraud is within my family, but really that yeah, that you get like 20 grand Medicaid Part B. I want to say if you have like a stroke, it's called a catastrophic event. They'll just like give you like 20 grand or something. Is it like that you like fake that or something and then get that money type of thing? Is that like what medic? Fake a stroke. No, what it is is well, here's the daycare thing. Like that's part of it. You know, and then there's a bunch of people that don't exist that are getting Medicaid money. Right. Right. Yeah. And then there's autism diagnosis is right. So they self diagnosis autism. They open up an autism center. They have a bunch of kids in the autism center. They get money for those kids. There's no autism. There's no kids. It's all fake. Right. Right. Right. Right. There's also like there's there's these fake scams where there there was one that they uncovered in Minnesota where they were supposedly feeding an exorbitant amount of children and there was no kids. No one was going there, but they were saying they were feeding like 5,000 people a day. Sure. They didn't even have the capacity to feed 5,000 people a day. There's no food coming in there. But you know, the American dream. The politicians, the politicians were getting so much money from these people. Right. Just from the Somali community that own daycare centers, the Minnesota politicians were getting $35 million last year. Is that is Tim Wilson to blame for that? I don't know. Well, he just stepped down from his reelection. That's not good. That's not good. You were almost the vice president of the United States. Yeah. Many people came at me. People that I'm like thought I was friends with like acquaintances more maybe, but I now realize they were acquaintances. When I made fun of Tim Wals for going to China so many times, like, which let me not get this wrong. It's definitely more than 10, more than 10 or something that Tim Wals just like went to China to go, like, which is, you know, if you're going to have gone to China that many times and then run to be the vice president, why wouldn't you? Why would you hide it? Number one, why wouldn't you lead with it as like this is one of our enemies? I've been, I know the language. Like why wouldn't you either lean into it, make it. I'm an expert on it. And this is one of our big issues. Like the fact that we all pretended that he wasn't going to China. First of all, on what salary are you going to China every year? What was the politician when he was doing this? You're miles program. Well, I could see if you were a businessman. He was a teacher. He was a teacher. He was going with kids. He was taking kids to China. Uh, but I mean, doesn't that make sense though that you're taking kids on an international trip so they can learn about the world? Only China. Maybe that's his area of expertise. I'm trying to like, but why not lead with it? I'm trying to steal, man. I know me too. I do the same where I'm like, why doesn't he open with? I've been to China 35 times. I took kids there so they could learn Mandarin because they're going to have to interface with China later during business. Like it was just like this thing where it's when someone else tries to hide something, something that I wouldn't have thought was untoward. I'm like, well, hold on. Now it's weird. Right. And why can't I ask a question about it? Whenever I would say, how many times did you go to China? Everyone's like, what, what? And I'm like, well, here's the crazy one. When the, all the Somali daycare center came out, he started blaming white men for all the crime. Sure. What about white men? Well, he's white men with all the crime. He's trying this, that playbook. He's like, what about me? The woke playbook. What about me? I'm the criminal. I'm a white guy. He's telling on himself right then and there. What do you mean? He was basically trying to say that it's racist, but it's not facts aren't racist. Like it's just clever. Just if they, if they did it themselves, you know, if they did it themselves, if they were the ones that were perpetrating the fraud, the real problem is if they didn't do it themselves, who helped them fill out all those forms? Who helped them organize this? And is this a money longer laundering thing? And are they filtering this money into other people's accounts? Are they filtering into offshore accounts? Cause supposedly, here's another one. Supposedly they were sending money like on a regular basis back to Somalia and they were catching them at TSA in Minnesota. Sure. See if that's true, Jamie. It's a lot. It's a lot, you guys. I mean, it's, it's, you know, I guess also the other question is when all this is going on, I'm like, do I focus on this or like, are we going to war? Like, you know, well, you can only focus on so much. I know. Cause that's the thing about the internet. If you want to get outraged, it's there to feed you. Yeah, totally. And then, and then once you click on something, they're just going to keep feeding you more and more of that. And I'm sort of like, is this as big of a story as my algorithm is telling me it is because I remember, you know, and this is, I think why it's like more important than ever to be on stage as much as possible to just corroborate like a premise to make sure that everyone even is aware of it, given our little echo chambers and stuff. But remember when, remember when Kamala Harris was like giving speeches that it kind of seemed like she was shitfaced. Like just, it sort of seemed like she was like slurring words or something. Those were, you know, that will come in. I was like doing this joke about it before the election that was like, you know, like maybe this is what we need. Like what's scarier than a, you know, alcoholic woman with no kids. You know, like she can just be calling up like Putin in the middle of the night. Like, hey, she's just, you know, and I was doing it. It was doing well. Everyone got it. And then I was somewhere in like New York City, I think it was doing, and no one had seen that video. People were like, what are you talking about? No one had seen, had any awareness of that. And I was, it was kind of bone-chilling. Cause I'm like, eat. Well, she's probably exhausted. Right. Of course. Here's the other thing. You're running around, you're doing so much. Your campaign, you're constantly doing it. If you catch me and I'm really tired, I sound like I'm on pills. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm fucking, you know, and then you're probably a little casual about everything because you're doing something. You're repeating the same things over and over again. You're going to these places. You're fucking completely exhausted or you're coming off of whatever they put you on to get you up. Yeah. Adrenaline and, you know, it's also, I think that they're used to, there's this old way of doing things where you could say the same thing on every platform and no one would. Need anything from Tesco? Like Tesco Finest Hot Cross Buns. Any two for just three pounds on selected packs this Easter with your Tesco Club Card, because every little helps. Majority of larger stores selected Finest Buns and Sixth of April Club Card or App Proquiet. Cut it all together and show, you know. That's it. Okay. Here it is. I found it. I'm going to send this to you, Jamie, because this is a apparently a legitimate source. I'm looking up the main source. They said they got it from, said, Homeland Security officials told us source called Just The News. So I've never, I'm just looking up. Well, this is the TSA. Yeah, that's what it says. Yeah. Federal probe, hundreds of millions of dollars in speculative smol cash and living in theapolis airport. It says that this is the source. Story. So I was just trying to find out what's a legit source. What they were told. For sure that money didn't just stay in the community. If, especially if they didn't have the ability to organize this and develop this scam, someone else helped them and those people were getting money from it. So how were they getting the money? Were they getting the money in cash? Was it being sent and wired to offshore accounts? Like how are they doing it? And what are the. It's clear that there's, there's so much money missing. It's in the billions now. It's bigger than the entire GDP of Somalia, just from Minnesota, allegedly. Wild. The entire GDP of a country, one state's fraud is supposedly over the course of, you know, X amount of days that they, they did. And is it true that the guy that uncovered it was kind of like some guy? Like it was like a. Nick Shirley kid. Yeah, this like. Young kid. Yeah. Good for him. But I mean, there's the other question, like did someone direct him towards this? Is this like, you know what I'm saying? Like did the Republicans set this up to try to expose it? Is it, is it him just being independent journalist? He seems like a very smart kid. I've seen him. He was on Patrick Bet David's show. Yeah. He's a virgin. Why do we, why do we, why did he, why do we know that? Because he's. Talks about it. Talked about it. He said he was a virgin. He said they can't get him on anything. He can't get me on sexual assault. I'm a virgin. You can't get me on anything. We can get you on being a virgin. Here's the article. Transportation security administration flagged nearly $700 million in cash detected in passengers luggage leaving the Minneapolis airport in the last two years. That's crazy. That's probably it. Yeah. That's crazy. A massive, massive cash exodus believed to be tied to Somali immigrants and their money couriers. Homeland security officials told just the news. So who's the Homeland Security official though? You know what I mean? I was reading through it. That's first statement doesn't say like all, all flat. Hey, that's, sorry, let me start this over. Some of these were a million dollars and it says that they were legally declared every time they did it. Right. But you could legally declare it if it was cleared by whoever the fuck is involved in this fraud. Right. So if you're donating $35 million last year, just last year in 2025 to democratic politicians from these Somali daycares, which I believe is true. That's how I was trying to look that up and couldn't find out. Fundals of cash and luggage, some as much as a million dollars in a single trip raised suspicions. Yeah. This is the part I don't, that does, I was like taking each statement as it doesn't say that those were each like that's particular one was a Somali person. That could have been someone going to Vegas, could have been someone going by house. I don't know. Like I'm saying all 335 million. Nobody buys a house with a million dollars in cash. I'm not saying they did. I'm just saying, but I could have been anybody, could have been buying a Bugatti, could have been a poker player going to the World Series of Poker, you know, Dan Cook's brother. I'm just sort of saying to be, I don't know. Tony Hinchcliffe going to the Cowboy Boot Store. It's conflating a bunch of stuff together. Right. It could have been every single. Justthenews.com. Is that a legitimate organization? I pulled it up. Is that a far right organization? Let's look at their side articles and we'll get a view of what their perspective is. Is that what you do? Look at the trending ones. Make that a little larger. Let's see what the Trump orders government to buy 200 billion dollars in mortgage bonds to lower rates. That's pro right wing. CDC misled the public with study implying COVID vaccines, save healthy kids. UCLA expert warns. Also right wing. USC's is another sanctioned oil tanker in the Caribbean. Sanctioned oil tanker, not just oil tanker, they were sanctioned right wing. Maduro's ouster leaves China holding the bag on oil investments right wing. Right. Also, what's in UCLA expert? What's the top one? Comrade, no, no, no. Larger. Comrade, singham to face House subpoena as a CCP tide network reveals or leads rather renewed anti ice protests. So it seems like this is a very right wing is just the news seems like at least leaps see just the news. No noise. Yeah. House in house fails to override Trump. This day we're just said Minnesota travelers alone. I was like, well, that could be anybody from Minnesota then. Minneapolis travelers alone had 342.37 million in their luggage in 2024. That's a lot of money. Okay. Let's find this out. So Minnesota travelers alone had 342.37 million dollars in their luggage in 2024. So let's put into perplexity. How much money did California travelers have in their luggage in 2024? How many Bitcoin did California travelers have in their assholes? California travelers have in their luggage in 2024. But who puts the. At the TSA. But does anyone ever measure your money when you go through or count it? No, you're supposed to declare. I think if you have more than 10 grand, but we'd lie. Everyone I know, I know, that's true. That's what they said. But these were all, you know, but if I went through with with a thousand dollars, they never would know or is it. So the amount cannot be determined from available data, TSA and regulated agencies track only limited categories such as unclaimed money at checkpoints or certain cash seizures. And these figures are nationwide rather than specific to California travelers. Or all money carried in their luggage. Okay. So how do they know that about Minnesota? That's right. It's coming from one source. And that's why I was like, why did they only tell one source? Why wouldn't they have told all that? Like, why wouldn't they call Fox? Why wouldn't they call. Right. CNN. Why we don't call everybody. Also, it's this one very right leaning website, right? It appears right. How do they ascertain cash someone's carrying through? I mean, the Tennessee Star has it as well. They were just reporting the same article from Justin News. Right. So that's another way that you can distribute propaganda. You have one source and then you send that source out and a bunch of other people repeat it and said, as reported by this one website, that one website might be bullshit. I also like to look at the ads that are on the surrounding. The article. Exactly. If it's like gun safe, I'm like, this is right wing. If it's like tampons for men, I'm like, I think this is the left wing one. Okay, got it. That always kind of helps. That's wild. I have a family member who works in like kind of banking and I'm like, what's up with this oil? What's up with the China buying up all the silver? What do we do in? Did you see the doomsday plane? What's the doomsday plane? The doomsday plane that I mean, could just be a sigh up, but it's the doomsday plane. I think it went to California. The one that is in case of a nuclear event, it can hold stay in the sky for a couple days and self-refuel. It's made my nipples hard just looking at it. It's gorgeous. Jamie, doomsday plane. Jamie, can you pull up this doomsday plane so people listening don't think I'm Roseanne. Okay. Doomsday, Trump's doomsday E4B plane sighted in Washington and Los Angeles days after Maduro captured. But get that pretty picture up of it. I mean, that looks, that's a terrible picture. Yeah, that just looks like a picture. Yeah, that looks like that's them sighting it, but go back to the art. Look at this thing. Hmm. That's the doomsday plane. I don't know if it's that. Isn't that the top one with the blue stripe? That's, wait a minute. They're all different. This is when they're selling it from Northrop Grumman so anybody can buy it and then you get it out of America's logos on it. Right. But it's also different in the way it's built. Look at the top of it. Is that the escape pod at the very top where they pop off and go to Mars? It's similar. Inside the doomsday plane. Okay. So what it, go back to the article. Like what is the, well, we'll put it into perplexity. What is the capacity of the United States doomsday E4B plane? Like what does it do? Can like stay in the air for a couple of days. It can refuel itself. What is the capacity of the doomsday plane the United States has? It's chock full of cocaine, catamine. Elon made sure it's mushrooms. Yeah. Okay. It accommodate a little over a hundred people with typical published figures ranging from about 108 mission crew up to roughly one 11 to one 12 total passengers, total personnel, including flight crew and staff and official media descriptions usually summarized as seating for around 110 people. What can it do? Okay. Endurance. Look at that. What's the maximum endurance? Click on that. No, this thing is like a beast. Okay. I'm going to give us one answer. Can stay a lot for 150 hours. Oh, that's it? That's how much with sources describing capabilities from roughly 72 hours up to about a week in sustained operations. So it can fly for a week. That's crazy. Cause it can self fuel. It can keep it up. Keep it up. Please. And then how long can it stay with aerial refueling? This is what I think you were getting. Yeah. It can theoretically remain airborne for several days limited mainly by crew fatigue and maintenance needs rather than fuel. Multiple sources describe realistic endurance of roughly three to seven days of continuous flight under sustained operations when supported by tankers and rotation of crew. So here's the thing. If it is a doomsday scenario and you're up in the air for five days, that's just like, that just means you're going to die in five days. That's right. What's the, or do you just pull this out as a message to, everybody, you know, because you would only need this if there was a nuclear event, right? So they did it just go like, Hey, what just happened in, you know, Venezuela, just, just so you guys know we're flying this thing around. You know, when's the last time it flew? When's the last time it made a cameo? Also, I don't, I mean, I know we were texting about the, um, the Delta extraction and like I would never want to, um, I mean, watching the video of the Delta extract extraction, how they, uh, uh, of, uh, Maduro, they built like a replica of the building and were blindfolded, like going through it, you know, practicing and stuff. But it, it, it, I was talking to your guy, uh, when we were coming over, it could have been pre-negotiated, right? There is a chance that that could have been pre-negotiated. They killed 80 of his, his, his team. I don't think it was negotiated. Yeah. No, probably not. Here's one funny one, but it is weird that his wife was, I guess that was like a thing, a couple of people flagged. What, did they kidnap her? Just that she was there and involved. Yeah. Well, she's his wife. Yeah. Um, one of the funny ones was somebody posted on Twitter, uh, a photograph of this woman and her children and she's in the, the journalist said, uh, this woman and, uh, her children, her husband and their father was killed in the U S raid in Venezuela. And then everybody was like, right. What was he there for? What was he doing there? Right. Was he a fucking mercenary? Like, what was he doing? You know, he was Cuban apparently. Cause there was a lot of, uh, Cuban defense that they used that Maduro used for whatever reason, I guess communists love each other. Yeah. They hang out with each other, other dictators like, hey, let me borrow some of your guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, the guy might have been a mercenary. There was certainly mercenaries working for him. I mean, he had 80 people died that were there protecting him. This fucking storm did. They didn't lose a single U S service. Why so sick? Crazy. I mean, it's just like flawless. Other dictators got to be like, yeah. I didn't know that. I mean, is that why Iran they there was that way? Iran was like now's the time. Like, well, the people are cracking down. The people are out in the streets now, but now apparently the Islamic regime is assassinating people that are protesting. Of course. And your boy, this is where Elon really shines. Like, you know, with to bring in Starlink over to a country that has cut off Wi-Fi. Right. Right. Because that's what they do. They cut off Wi-Fi. So these people can't organize. I think it's also been cut off for them. I mean, I don't think they've had a limited version of it for so long. Well, they definitely kill people who protest. They killed a gold medalist in the Olympics. They killed a guy who was a wrestler, gold medalist because the UFC tried to get involved and keep this guy from being assassinated. They killed him. You've seen like pictures and like video of Iran in like the 70s and stuff. Crazy. Yeah, we did that. Yeah, we did that because they wanted to nationalize their oil. We were like, nah, player. No, no. Oh, hell, not bra. Yeah, they had a democratic society. It is entirely because of the intelligence agencies. We went over there and, you know, the you could find the story, find the story. So I don't butcher it. But essentially the Shah was like, hey, why is the British Petroleum Company or whatever it was? Why are they making all the money? We'll nationalize our oil and he was gone, you know, within days and they put in the Islamic regime and it has been a religious state ever since then. I mean, that's that's our doing or the British Oil Company and us multiple different people. And essentially it was all just about his oil or the country's oil, rather. But Maduro, like he was going to be torn limb to limb at some point, right? Well, he had a bounty on him by the Biden administration. This is one thing that people need to understand. It wasn't just the Trump administration. The Hunter Biden. That's who does that. He had his own administration. He's smoking crack. Kill him. He's ruining my crack. No, the Biden administration had him at a bounty on Maduro. They had a I believe it was 20 million or 22 million. Trying to get people to off that guy. So it wasn't like we're the only ones that think he was a bad guy. They were trying to use money to get people to kill that guy. And besides the oil of it all, like, were they going to allow China and Russia to put like use it? It's like to put missiles. China was there negotiating with Maduro the day the US came and kidnapped him. Bad move, homie. They came in that day and were having meetings with Maduro. And that night they snatched him out of his bed. You think to get oil or to put nuclear sites? 100 percent to get oil. Yeah, they want that oil. Everybody wants that oil. It's so funny, like when I'm, you know, having a kid, you know, the way that it changes you. But like the things you focus on, the things you're obsessed with to keep you up at night. Like before I had a kid, it was like, is he going to text me back? Now I'm like obsessed with like finite resources. And like, where's all the helium? Like we're running out of helium. Like where's the helium for? Besides the lungs. Um, hilarious. Yeah, I won't be able to have a birthday party for my son. What are clowns going to do? No, it's for ventilators. Although I think we found the ventilators actually in COVID. They killed people. But I think it's like ventilators and medical stuff. Like, you know, helium is finite. Like there's only a certain amount and we kind of just use it for like the Macy's Day parade for like floats and shit. But I think that there is actually a lot of helium in Texas, maybe Oklahoma and then Qatar is like the other place that it. We have it. But we have a limited supply of helium. I never even thought about helium before, except the comedy clubs. Don't get me started on. Say, oh, shout out to Philly. Yeah, I have. I feel him. Great fucking. Philly. Awesome club. Also, um, sand. I think it was the story behind Iran and the nationalization of their oil. Well, that's I mean, that's a longer story. Right. Back to the fifties and seventies. Right. But when we did it because we definitely were involved, the US was involved in overthrowing the legitimate government of Iran. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Putting putting the Ayatollah in. And then they they ruined the entire country because Iranian women are fucking hot. They're beautiful. And smart as shit. I truly every my OB who like saved me and my son's life during childbirth, like just Iranian bitches do not play around. They make great wrestlers, too. United States initially tried to mediate between Britain and Iran during the 1951 nationalization crisis, but then moved to help overturn Iran's elected government to reverse the consequences of the nationalizations all about oil. 1953 US officials helped organize the coup that removed Prime Minister Mohammed. How do you say that word? Masa day. Masa day. I don't know how to say that word. I'm going to leave you out on a cliff. Whose rise had been closely tied to the nationalization of Iranian oil in March, 1951. Iran's parliament voted to nationalize the assets of British owned Anglo Iranian oil company, responding to a longstanding grievance and over low royalties and foreign control. That's it. Nationalist leader became Prime Minister soon after and made implementation of nationalization central to his program. So under President Truman, the US generally opposed the idea of full nationalization and principle, but didn't want Iran pushed to the collapse or moved toward the Soviet Union. Washington sent envoy such as so they wanted to keep it away from the Soviet Union. So they turned it into his Islamic regime. Sure. George McGee and W. Avril Harriman to seek a compromise that would preserve Western access to oil while accepting some changes to the existing concession. OK, it's a reversal in 51 53 under President Eisenhower US Central Intelligence Agency working. There it is. Working with Britain's MI six carried out Operation Ajax covert operation to overthrow Maas. Whatever you say his name is Masa day. And strengthen the Shah's rule the coup removed the government most associated with oil nationalization and paved the way in 1954 for an international oil consortium in which five major US oil companies along with British and other firms gained significant stakes in Iranian oil ending exclusive British control. That's it. We did it. Fascinated by the ruined it. There was this TV show on I think National Geographic I want to say called a little light or a small light that was about like what was going on with you know in the Holocaust like it was slow it was slow. It wasn't just like one day they just get you know it was like they you know slowly started you know seizing art and then you know not letting them get jobs like how these gradual things happen like to go from the 70s. Of like the women out in bathing suits on that to like there's women that or you know that had enjoyed the freedom and then all of a sudden had to like it's just so fascinating that like how gradual it is. Oh yeah. And how you get desensitized how you make it's a frog in boiling water. That's it. Yeah. They don't realize they're boiling until it's too late. Or you do know what's happening. And that's what's happening right now in New York City. But he said he would stop the carriage horses. So I'm all for it. I'm kind of down with that. Yeah. I think that's fucked up. That's disgusting. Those horses do not need to be wandering around New York City sniffing fucking brake dust. It's disgusting. Carrying assholes around. It's disgusting. I mean it's you know me and my like horse thing. But it's it's so disgusting. And you know the amount it's like nobody knows how many elephants kill their trainers a year and how many you know all kinds of crazy. We saw the orca kill the trainer you know but stuff like that happens so often and they just cover it up. But the amount of carriage horses a couple of them got out and we've seen them get out and we've seen them collapse and all this horrific stuff. And something else is going on with it which is and look I'm the first person to say like New York was really safe when the mafia was you know kind of like there's a documentary about how they would sort of protect people in the subways and sort of would fill in where the government couldn't. But there's something going on with the horse carriage business. A horse got out who was 29 years old Archie was his name. 29. Yeah. Yeah. It only had a couple more years. And I tried to negotiate with them got a bunch of friends that have like a few money and basically said you're going to get thirty eight thousand dollars cash. This was a horse that's pretty much done. Right. Cash will take the horse in the middle of the night. No social media nothing. And they said no. The amount of money they're making is so insane. And it's mostly strong. It's mostly tourists. Honestly. They make that much money from horse drawn carriages. Tons tons from other countries of people that have different ideas of animal respect towards animals. And we do. Oh so it's mostly foreigners riding in the horse. I don't think it's a lot of white people in those. Oh really. Well yeah Polish people. White. Russian. White. Goofy fuck. Yeah. Maybe that. Yeah. Yeah. We're in a horse. It's so romantic. We're out in the air. It'd be so much sick. I pitched them like do robot horses like sick dinosaurs do like a dinosaur trolley ride or something around the city. That'd be so much. Jamie I sent you that thing about the lady that's now in charge of housing in New York. This is wild. This one's what she wants to like kill real estate value. That's her idea. Like she wants to literally to make housing more affordable. She wants to kill real estate. It's an inelastic good. You can't. Well she's it's a moronic. Oh this woman. Listen to this lady. Listen to this. And she has like a million dollar house. Her mom does. Oh. Well of course. The housing is owned by a collective and people are paying 40% of their income in order to live in their housing. If your income is zero you pay zero. If your income is five hundred thousand dollars a year you're paying 30% of that. And the government is providing the sort of the government is the sort of owner or not even the owner. The government doesn't have to be the owner but the government is what's making sure all of that sort of works in cash flows. The debt to GDP ratio right now is the highest since World War Two. So how can the federal government also afford to start subsidizing rental housing costs. The federal government is paying money. The federal government provide money for those. So it's by printing money. Sure. That's her idea. Print money. The federal government print money to provide housing. Jack up interest rates. Jack up the fucking debt. Print money to provide housing and everyone pays 30% for housing. First of all why are you talking to me in a hoodie. What like what mental illness is that like how dare you. First of all you look like powder. You look like yeah like first of all first of all get a blowout throw some mascara like we're professionals anymore. You're in a Costco hoodie and a T shirt like what are we doing. Well you see they've confronted her about these ideas and she breaks down crying but she didn't even know what she's saying. She's like well sort of like she was kind of we won't own it. Her training was UCB like she's just improvising an idea. No the government does that she's not even making eye contact like damn. Well a lot of these wokies they come from rich families. They feel bad about being privileged. And one specifically thing that she said it was going to really impact white people. What is fascinating about that is that because I think she believes she's coming from the moral high ground. I think this is what's really sort of it is someone who I feel like is similar to you and then I'm like I was as liberal. I had blue hair you guys like I remember when you had blue hair. I rescue pit bulls like it doesn't get any more liberal than me like it doesn't get any more. But the whole idea with being liberal is like you had me at we're not racist. Everyone's equal. But you know diversity but then it turns into. Diversity but not diversity of thought. Not right. The the the hypocrisy of it got and I think that as comics were people who you know I may not be an expert of politics but I'm an expert on hypocrisy. When you grow up around alcoholics who say I love you and then their behaviors in Congress you study you look for patterns of hypocrisy. That's just what we're wired to do. So it just started to just be like hold on. You know we don't believe in gender but we need a female president. You're like huh. And then it's like my body my choice unless it's a baby that needs a vaccine for hepatitis B which comes from but sex like what are you right. And sharing needles and sharing needles which and then you know we believe in climate change and sea is rising. But we live on the coast like would you buy a house on the beach if you truly believe that this is you know we believe in recycling. But why can't you give Andrew Yang another shot. Like why won't you give what where did Beto go. Remember Beto Rourke. I was a mess. But he but any more so than. Oh yeah yeah he's a mess. How like worse than. No I mean they're all a mess. Like when you have these blanket progressive ideas you've attached yourself to an ideology. And that ideology you'll defend because it's your identity. It's you. It's who you are. But didn't he he at least seemed you know I mean you know I didn't know that much about what from what I knew he made a joke about his wife taking care of the kids and the level is like you're sexist. Women it was like. But what I saw with her was this idea of I'm so moral that I don't even have to make a good argument. And the left started stopped making an argument or even outlining what there's well no I'm moral and I'm better than you and I don't have to even make an argument. Well that I mean I don't know when she gave that interview. So let's suppose she gave that interview a long time ago before she had this job and she was just saying this is what ideally I would like. And then she gets the job right. And now when she's what is her official job. Twenty twenty one was the interview. And there you go. See the office of office to protect tenants. So was she working for that office back then. No no no she would have been I think on Mondami's. I don't even know if he was running. He wouldn't have been running back in twenty twenty one. What do you write. Well she definitely was doing podcasts with him back then. Yeah she definitely just got out of SoulCycle in this video. And but yeah I don't know where her actual position was back at the time. She might have just been on his campaign. OK so this was reason and they were having this conversation with her. And so to lead the city's office to protect tenants. Look there's definitely slumlords. You should definitely protect tenants. There's definitely shitty owners and landlords. She's basically saying government housing. Yeah but what she's saying is crazy. Like taking 30 percent of whatever you make. That's nuts. So if you make a billion dollars a year. If you're Elon Musk or whoever it is. You have to make 30 percent. Yeah. That's bananas. The thing about New York and maybe this is you know. And I don't I don't even know what's you know. Side anything an idea makes anybody on anymore. Sometimes I'll say someone and people be like oh so you're like all left. And I'm like I don't know. I just thought that was a good idea. Then people are like oh so you're like super conservative. I'm like no I don't. Don't shop. Yeah you got it. And so shop don't adopt. And so New York is expensive. That's the deal. If you don't have you can't. I remember one time going to Howard Stern's house and Howard Stern is he's got more money than that. And it was like still in he was able to get two by two floors of it. But it's still like an apartment. You know what I mean. It's like New York. This is what whatever a hundred million dollars or whatever gets you in New York. Like I know it's not still not that big. Like I know my horse is stable. My horse is stable is like twice the size of this. But if you want to live in the city for convenience that's what it costs. That's right. So it's like if you Jeffrey Epstein somebody donates your house. That's right. Or an office on the Harvard campus. I love it when people that are professors at Harvard are like I was a professor at Harvard like well so Epstein at an office too. But like OK I feel like it's just like New York's supposed to be expensive. That's the deal. You know. And you know I had a place there for like a year. I remember I was in like Chelsea area and because I just want to go back and forth. I was like trying. There's something about New York that does really put a fire under your ass. Like I remember you know actually it was dice back in the day. I used to just ask comics like you know because you're just you're a nobody and you're just starting and you're in the hallway with a legend. Like what do you say. You know. And I would always just go like if you have any advice happy to hear it. You know some people love giving advice. Other people I was like going up to Bill Barr like help me like I could read the vibe and he said sleep like get as much sleep as you can. And then he was like when you make it make sure you don't get too comfortable because like as comics we still need to kind of and I think that for a long advice for a long time I think I took bad advice that maybe I had just gleaned. I don't remember any giving it to me of like you have to be crazy to be funny or your life has to be a mess to be funny. I think a lot of comics hold on to that if I ever get happy or have a kid or I'm in a healthy relationship I won't be as funny. I don't think that's true. I actually think it freed up bandwidth like getting out of it doesn't have to be true but it can be true. Can be. That's well comfort can make people fat too. They can get lazy. But also it's like if you're not you know that's why I go to the grocery store. I got you know not that I wouldn't but like you got to make sure that you're still in the trenches and that you still don't you don't make your life so easy. That you know you're not disassociated. You're not disconnected from the outside world. That's right. And just at your feet like unless resilient and let you know. And you know so what am I talking about. This is this is where mom brain does come in. You were talking about New York City. New York City. So I'm in New York City and I just want to write new stuff. It was like things were going well. I bought a house and I was like you know New York's just you're just a little more of a dog fight and I wanted to go to the cellar and you know the stand and all these places. And I'm in this apartment is probably what years right before the pandemic. Oh yeah. You got an apartment in New York before the pandemic for like a it was I was already out of it probably six months before. So you're going back and forth for a year was going back and forth because I also was like touring so much that I would go OK if I'm going to be in you know Florida at the end of you know Friday Saturday Sunday I should just go to New York because then I'm going to North Carolina that Thursday anyway. I was just like doing clubs to work on the new hour. I'm single so it's exactly a kid exactly. And let me just stay on the East Coast right. And and let me just like do a software update. It's like Ari made me go on a hike for the months and he's like you need to go to Somalia for a year with no phone. I was like I'll just how would I get a place in New York. His idea is so I'll go to little Italy. How about that. For the good of Tibet. Yeah. And living in a year in Mongolia. And I remember like every time I would turn on the the bathtub the toilet would the effluvium from the toilet would come through the bathtub. It was like some wild dude. And then there was also an elevator in the building that people could get off on your floor. So half the time I'd be sleeping in like a bunch of dudes would just like get off you know. And I had this plumber come and I was like oh can you help with the shit the gutter going into the bath. The one thing that's relaxing is a bath and then I'm just like in sewage. And he was like it's New York. And I was like no but like can you fix it. He's like nah like his job is just going around to people and reminding them they live in New York. And this is the deal. Like there's no way to stop the fucking sewer water. He's like I could make it but like that's not it's just this is and this is part of why like Trump won like like infrastructure. You know there's pipes explode all the time because they're just hitting their limit of being you know 100 whatever years old like. But New York is the place you go when you kind of you know want to be in a dog fight on a daily basis you're going to be spending more every time you sit down it's 100 bucks. You know it's even if you get affordable housing in New York like a bottle of water or food like everything's expensive there. Right. You know because it has to be brought in. It's emotionally expensive. It's literally expensive. Figuredly expensive like it's you know I. For this lady is going to reduce all that. She's going to make everything valueless. Like what like but why would you want to take the. Yeah I mean there's things that are artificial value like art and stuff like that but land is what's probably going to do is it's probably going to lead to some sort of a Republican government there. They're probably going to be a lot of backlash. People are probably going to organize probably going to realize that you can't have communism and that it'll go it'll swing the other way. Because everyone's kind of leaving right all the people with money are leaving New York. So what's so they're saying like fucking Robert De Niro was talking about it. Wow. He's like the king and our savings. Fine if that's accurate. Also that might have been a might have been a fake quote. They need to use everybody's tax dollars to pay for all this but all the tax payers are leaving that are big money. Exactly. But if they're taxing everybody the thing is it's like you can't just tax your way out of problems because we know that that money goes and it's it's grossly inefficient what they do with it. The government is not good at using your money. They've never been good. There's not like one example of the government doing an amazing job with your money originated as satire. There it is. It's fake. Uh, I mean he owns like hotels there. He does like the film festival there and everything. Right. He's like yeah. Oh he loves it there. He's like the guy people stay outside of his house and yell at him in New York. Crazy Trump people. I mean they know where he lives. So they stay outside his house and yell at him. Fuck you Bobby. Good for everyone. Trump won Bobby. You fucking loser. That's the crazy thing about living in New York. So we just walk right up to your door. If you have one of those walk-ups knock knock knock it's the sidewalk is in front of your house. That's what De Niro lives. Let's go knock. Didn't some crazy person break into his house recently? An ex-wife. Like a lady. Oh. I think like some crazy lady stalker broke into his house when he wasn't there. Lady stalkers can really get far. Because no one thinks that they're. I don't want to talk about one too much but there's one in my life who can just. Serial burglar accused of breaking into Robert De Niro's New York City townhouse went on new crime spree after release on bail. Did they know it was Robert De Niro's house? Yeah. Who is this person? How do they know he lives? Serial burglar. Shanice Viles was allegedly caught red-handed trying to steal Oscar winning actor's Christmas presents. Whoa. She's the Grinch. She was released from Rikers on May 3rd. Since then she's been charged at least two more thefts including one in which she allegedly snuck into a Columbia University building and slugged a security guard. She is a villain. I love like a Christmas present marauder. Well she was charged with stealing $416 worth of merchandise from a T.J. Maxx on 6th Avenue. You can get a lot for that amount. Yeah. The T.J. Maxx. That's like most of the story. She was busted again. Let me see her face. Let's see if I can see Craig. Yep. Craig's head. Look at her eyebrows. Are those shaved? Look at her face. Oh, babe. Yeah, you got me. Oh damn. Whatever. Oh damn. Whatever. Poor Robert. I mean like what if like if you're stealing Robert De Niro's Christmas present, it's like what's she going to do with an aura ring? It's good. Security guard patrolling the building around 6.30 PM spotted tools sitting near an open window that should have been lock shot and then found a villa is inside the building. Should she use tools? Filling up her bag with various items according to a criminal complaint. Yeah, she used tools, broken in the house. Bro, get a fucking dog. Get a Belgian mallow. Oh dude. Get a meat missile. People not having dogs. Like what are you doing, man? I don't know how to convince people. I mean, yeah, I never had problems like that. I leave all my doors unlocked. Well, I wouldn't do that. I'm like, I wish a motherfucker would. I mean, I have large dogs. Yeah, but still. Yeah. Shoot your dogs pretty easy. And then so your new dog was Marshall like instantly like. Love them. Oh, of course. They're best friends. So the new dogs also like a little anti-wolf. They've taken wolves and turned them into these cute cuddly little things you can carry around with you. When I look at that, that to me is like. I feel like humans were kind of like, this is never going to change. But things do change fast sometimes, like, you know, like smoking. I remember when I first moved to LA, people were smoking inside. And then I remember people going outside to smoke. Like it just in our lifetime, we'd like watched like a huge change, like. They banned smoking in bars. Yeah, huge cataclysmic changes like can happen, you know. But that's just because the people that were working in the bars were getting fucking cancer. So if the thing is like, I want to be able to smoke in a bar, that's great. But what about the poor waitress? That's right. The second answer, right? This lady who just wants to make a living and doesn't even smoke. Now she has lung cancer. That's crazy. So that that is a that's a liability for the organization, for the city. Totally bad for everybody. Yeah, pregnant women can't come drink at the bar. Right. Go outside and you can't drink. If you're pregnant, I know. I know. What? Now you don't. Damn it. But also can get a happy shot. I am I'm obsessed with the things that are so dangerous that users just like be places like in shoe stores that used to have little X-ray machines and shoe stores. Yep. And the people started getting foot cancer that worked there because all day they just put their foot in the X-ray machine. What? Because that's how they used to. I remember because there's a shoe store where my mom lived and it had like an old antique one, like an old antique one. It was a little X-ray machine. That's crazy. And if you're working there and you're bored and you're just sticking your foot in it all day, that's nuts. I never knew that. That's how they would take your foot size. Isn't it nuts how like new technology? They have no idea it's killing people. No clue. Do you know about the radium girls? Love it already. This is a horrible story. So when you have a watch like, you know, like a Rolex and it's at night. You could see it's loom. So during the daytime, it charges up with the light. And at night, you can see the indicators. They light up. They glow in the dark. The reason they glow in the dark is because they're fucking radioactive. Yeah. So they paint not now, I don't think, but they paint. And so these girls were touching the tips of this fucking paintbrush when they were painting loom on these dials. And they were all getting horrific cancer, where they were getting holes in their face. See if you can find some of the images. Oh, bummer. Well, there's some images of a radium sickness. Are these just your porn searches, Jamie? We're looking for the uranium. This is the radium girls. Bummer. Radium girls is like, I think there's a documentary. Yeah, there is. No, there's a movie from 2020. Yeah, because that's Joey. The Dark Story of America's Shining Women. Well, it's like all kinds of stuff like this. Like Christopher Reeves' wife got lung cancer from his machine. Oh, God. I know. Really? That kind of stuff kills me. I always think about nail girls, the girls that are in there doing acrylic nails. Oh, yeah. You're just inhaling this all day. I know when they wear like a fucking mask, like a surgeon's mask. That's just something to talk shit about us. But that surgeon's mask is not going to help you from the fucking fumes. Yeah. People that work around toxic chemicals. I was reading this thing about women that clean, the women that work with cleaning solvents all day. They get lung cancer and it's like they're smoking three packs a day. Totally. Like my the woman that's been with me, she's like my family who helps me maintain my house. It's all we make it. It's all clean, you know, like not ammonia or gas stuff. It's like vinegar. And well, you should just have that in your house anyway. And stuff. It's not you cleaning. You don't want that shit in your fucking house, period. Yeah. But then like as women, then we like spray our hair and put a bunch of makeup on, you know, yeah, we're all high at all times, just chock full of chemicals. Like it's so wild. You think about the amount of endocrine disruptors we put on a daily basis, but the populism into your face to keep it from moving. You know what? I don't do it anymore. Ah, congratulations on your eyebrows. I. Before it moves, your eyebrows have been freed. It really is. My hairline went back. Well, you said you've been doing the red light. Red light is the key. Yeah. Like red light, it brings collagen to your skin. It gives your skin a more youthful appearance. It like helps your entire body heal better. It helps your mitochondria. But we were talking about this before the podcast for both of us. It's improved our vision. That's right. It really has. Like my vision was on a downward, like very steady. Like I have these things here, these reading glasses. I don't use those at all anymore. I can completely read my phone now with no reading glasses. And before it was a blurry mess. Also, by the way, everyone I know with kids, like they're and I'll be exaggerating a little bit, but their kids are getting glasses so young and having eye stuff. So young. They're staring at screens all the time. You know, one of the things that you're supposed to do is if you're staring at something like really close to your face all the time, you should take breaks and look at things that are far away. Because otherwise, I guess your cornea reshapes and like your eyes literally become more accustomed to trying to look at things closer. It just fucks your eyes. Right. Right. And then this the light from the screen that I see. And I try to do the blue light glasses as like much as I can. The amount of glasses and lights I have like in my house right now. It looks like a fucking chemistry studio. But yes, I got so I do red light on my skin. And because I was like, you know, look, the Botox thing is like, TV executive ages ago, when I was truly like in my 20s, the way they sell you on Botox is they say it's preventative. And you go, oh, yeah. OK. In your 20s. I was like, twenty seven. I was like, do make a TV show, a couple of TV shows. And they're like, well, she looks tired. I'm like, yeah, because I'm tired, because you keep sending me notes at two in the morning to take out all the good jokes. Like, of course, I'm tired. And so, you know, I they say to do it so that you don't get wrinkles later. And then you're like, OK, well, now I'm thirty five. Like, why am I still getting it? Like, shouldn't I enjoy the prevention now? Like, it just sort of becomes a do this forever. And I was like, I don't even know who I'm doing this for at this point. You know, I just was like, I guess. Especially if you just want to be a comic and you don't want to be cast in TV roles anymore. Yeah, but also even in TV roles, you can't act if you don't have expression on your face. That's the whole thing. You know, we've all seen actors where we're like, you just see one teardrop go down. I'm right here. Yeah, yeah. You know, Bro Talks, the rise of Bro Talks is weird. I shouldn't. But I do. I judge men very badly when I think they have Botox. When I see a man's face doesn't move. I'm like, I am not listening to anything coming out of your mouth, especially when it's hot on a guy. Why not enjoy the benefit of age looking good on a man? Yeah, because a certain amount of age, they're like, oh, my God, I'm so old. When you get to like that Stallone age, like he was at the White House receiving some fucking award. You know, there's a bunch of guys that went to the White House and got awards. Do you ever see that? Sorry. Awards are so silly. Yeah. Stand there and they put it around your neck. You're like, yep, I deserve this. But Stallone is there and it looks so crazy. Like he used to be my canary in a coal mine because I'm like, wow, you could be 70 and be jacked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is awesome. You know, because like he kept it together for a long fucking time. Like he was in great shape for a long time, but now he looks looks like he's just doing a bunch of stuff. I think I look at him there. That's crazy. First of all, that hairline is crazy. This whole lineup of people are his bat shit. Can you print this out so I can just put it in my bathroom to just that, but Gino. Who's the guy in the left? We should know the answer. No, no, Gene Simmons. Yeah, the woman. No, Gene Simmons is there. Is this the trans the trans? Stallone's 70, 79 years old. Let me see. Well, that was his wife. Yeah, but it's just like so who's there? Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. What was Stallone and who's the guy in the back? Are these the Benjamin Button Awards? Like, what is the actual award? Who's the guy in the far right? Doesn't say. Michael Crawford, whoever that is. I'm sure he's been in a bunch of stuff. I enjoy his name. Like entertainers. Yeah. OK, so they all got a big award, but it's just the way Stallone looked. It was like, what are you doing? It looks like a facelift. Is it Trump Kennedy Center? Oh, yeah, sure. So he was acknowledging his 80s heroes with awards. I used to like you in the 80s. But by the way, just ask them to go to dinner. Like how insecure that you have to like give an award. Like there was what was it? Was it Cosby that Harvard like gave him a fake award just to see if he would show up and he showed up? Oh, really? Like how narcissists will just show up to accept like greatest comedy person of ever. And he like showed up and accepted it and they didn't and they had to like get him from the airport. They were like, this was like a joke. Really? Yeah. Are you sure? Jamie, I don't know anything about that. They got a fake award. They like the hasty pudding or whatever Harvard's comedy troupe is. Oh, they did it? Did like a prank where they'll give celebrities awards. Just to see if they show up. Yeah. And Cosby showed up. That's actually funny. Conan and his friend. OK, Conan O'Brien convinced Cosby that his award had faked the Harvard Lampoon's lifetime achievement in comedy to be presented at Harvard. Bill Cosby actually flew all the way in a private plane to be picked up by Conan in his parents' station wagon, a modified bowling trophy was given as an award. Oh, boy. Like he showed up to get it. That's a little. Imagine. That is hilarious. Imagine. So that was Conan when he was in Harvard. Yeah. That's so funny. So many funny writers came out of Harvard. Out of Harvard. Yeah. The Hollywood Lampoon. Yeah. Kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy. I mean, it's interesting because they've, you know, not to like talk about TV dorkery, but I know a lot of them were friends with a lot of them. But like there was a little bit of like a lead ism. I think it's part of what made TV start becoming kind of irrelevant is these sort of like elite writers from Harvard who don't necessarily have a, you know, I think that the best comedy everyone can see themselves in it or it's about something that we can all kind of relate to on some level. That's all these sort of kids going to a, you know, $70,000 a year elite school, making shows like The Office and show, you know, these comedies that, you know, you know, look, like it's it's a lot of my friends worked on The Office. I love you guys. It's gonna get me in trouble, but it is kind of like making fun of poor people. It's like, would it be funny if people like worked at a paper mill and like went to Chili's? Like what a bunch of losers. My family members like go to Chili's. That is real photo. That's Conan right there. He was 19 when this happened. Like they had to like scramble to pick him up. That's actually amazing. He talked about on a podcast. That's actually amazing that he did that. That's actually amazing. Like that is, I love the little things where when you find out someone was a sociopathic monster that you're like, we should have known even though it had nothing to do with drugging women, like the fact that he showed up to receive this award, like. Well, actually the Harvard lampoon is like a famous comedy thing. So it would make sense that they would give him an award. That's true. That's true. And before he was a monster, he won. I mean, like you look at that image there. That's a black and white image. So Conan was 19. Conan's got to be in his late fifties. Right. How old is Conan now? Okay. So he was very respected back then. Yeah. Like Bill Cosby was the man. Bill, look, that show, I mean, when I tell you, like my top five shows, it's Cosby, you know, Martin, Mary with Children was really big. Can you even get Cosby anymore? Have they hid that? Maybe not even because no one thought it was weird that he was a gynecologist that worked out of his basement. Like. How about that one episode where he had his secret barbecue sauce that made everybody horn? That's right. Remember, I'll fucking read with that. You're going to drug people. Cliff Huckstamall would walk up the stairs from his basement, take off plastic gloves. Oh, because he was just touching pussies. They would have just been inside a woman. Oh my God. Presumably. He would just be like, yeah, like whatever he was doing. And they'd be like, anyway, so what's for dinner? And you're like, wait, hold on. That's nuts. I didn't know that. I never watched that show. He was a gynecologist and he'd work. I didn't even know he was a gynecologist. Out of his house. Oh my God. He would deliver babies. But that. Yeah, I always thought that was wild. That's so crazy. He'd take the plastic gloves off at the top of the stairs like. Fingered dating a girl once back in the day and she told me that her gynecologist hit on her and she said she was so creeped out. Her gynecologist called her up at home and asked her out on a date and she was like, what? Because he got a chance to take a look at that. Tiring. That thing looked pretty good. I mean, it's so crazy. Your gynecologist asks you on a day and you're at home and this is back by the way, like when I don't know. I guess they had caller ID in the 80s. So this would be after they had caller ID. Like you probably think the doctor's calling you up because like. But wait, didn't we just go on one? Just figured me. Yeah. What was that? Hold on. What's your definition of a date? That's what that was. We're together. You see my pussy and my asshole. This is nuts. I've been in the stirrups. You fingered me and have all my money. Like, that is, I mean, it is interesting that today for a guy to become a gynecologist, I know it's like the only way you know, only men could be back in the day. But now for a guy to be like, I'm in med school to be a gynecologist. Yeah. Everybody's like, what? Right. Like if I was a woman, I would never go to a male gynecologist. I'm good. That's crazy. No. Just the eye. If he's heterosexual, and he's staring at your cooter and thinking about sliding up in there. Or the opposite. Or if he like doesn't care, you're like, why are you not looking? I'm excited. Yeah. Why'd you put gloves on? Look at that thing. Yeah. Look at it shine. I put glitter on it just for you. Do you remember that? No. But, but. Glitter? Butt glitter? For real? No, remember, but crystal. Remember, okay. There would be dazzling pussy be dazzling. No way. Yes. This was a thing. Did that give you cancer too? Like baby powder does? This was a thing. Definitely something. But yeah, it was there was. I'm just always fascinated by like conflating like feminism with just like, just. What are we doing? Be dazzling or pussies like we're not like free the nipple. Like we're fine. Joe isn't off on something. Okay. Is this William. But the hot new trend for summer glitter butt. That's so ridiculous. Like don't look at my butt, but look, it's glittery. That's hilarious. Oh, that's like a. But there's also the butt plug thing. No, there was. So where are these people wearing these glitter pants? I mean, there's not even pants. That was another thing that hoes would do back in the day. Remember, they would just paint their tits and you can kind of go out in public with paint on your tits, like New Year's Eve and stuff like that. Yeah. And people go, oh, you're topless. Now get peen. And then it was like, why are you looking? It's like, okay. These girls have glitter all over their pants. By the way, how toxic is that shit? Hold on. Go. That's just, hold on. So we talked about the Wizard of Oz and that poor dude who had to play the tin man. That guy got fucked up by that paint. So did the woman that was the witch. She got her face cut on fire. Oh, oh, car fire. Yeah. Which by the way, now we'd pay dermatologists to set our faces on fire, but back then it was that was accidental. It was a. Layerskin. Yeah. She will look young again. Got to get to that young. Was it, um, what was it? Asbestos or what? What? Well, she had green paint on her face all day long, but in tin man, it was, he had like, it was aluminum. Aluminum. That's correct. Yes. Which we put in deodorant. Fine. Not the, not the kind of. I use Dr. Squatch. It's natural. Yeah. Works too. That's it. Last all day long. Dr. Squatch is also if I stink that. Oh, no, you don't want to smell me. Oh, really? No, no, no. I mean, when I don't have, when I don't have deodorant on and I like work out and hang out all day and I'll smell myself and get disgusted. But like, I'll smell myself and gag. I'll do like wipes. I'll just wipe it. You know, that's good. You don't want to get in there. But we're nice. I don't, I just, this whole thing where we all have to smell like a moonlit path. Yeah, but you don't want to smell like a monkey in the zoo. That's what I smell. I mean, I don't know. It's kind of a power move. I guess. You know how like they say like Ronnie, she's plugging. Oh yeah. No, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry to your wife. I love her too much to encourage this. It's like you deal with my breath. What? I brush your fucking teeth. Are you crazy? But isn't there something about like smelly? If someone smells bad, like your wife, your bio probably smells good to her. Hubertman actually talked about this when he was on my podcast back in the day about like, if someone doesn't smell good to you, it means you're probably related. I think you need to talk to her. She would probably correct you. I fucking smell gross. I eat mostly meat. Because you're always in ketosis. Yeah, that's different. Rotten meat coming out of my pores and pneumonia from sweat. But if someone's like morning breath smells bad to you and they just, you know, like everybody's morning breath smells bad. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But if you like, you gotta be really horny to make out with someone in the morning. Yeah. Full on make like you got it. That's like, that's ultimate. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care what your breath smells like. Come here. That's like crazy. Crazy. Just yeah. Flip me over like an adult. Yeah. Don't. That's like, if you don't care about yeast infections, who cares about that smell? Let's go. Let's fucking go. There is something sick about once you birth a child. You're so tapped into this like feral, like it's just so wild that I don't even think about morning breath anymore. It's you're just like, well, you're clean and diapers all the time. It's like when I was on fear factor, I didn't even flinch if someone threw up in front of me. I'd seen so many people throw up. Like one time, one time my wife threw up in her car. And this is how like I am immune to throw up. I mean, some people puke if they see because of all my years on fear factor, I'm completely immune. When I was a kid, if you threw up in the hallway in high school, I'd like, which like those are biological basis for that. We probably ate the same thing. Right. In the tribe. Exactly. That got wiped out of me on fear factor. 100%. She was coming home from the gym and she drank wheatgrass juice and she fucking threw up in her center console. And she was crying. She's like, I can't even clean it. So disgusting. I'll clean it. I got him. I cleaned the whole thing. I got in there with towels. I cleaned her puke out. It didn't even make me flinch. I'd seen so many people puke. I've seen people puke for days and days and I mean, I did 148 episodes. So I said at least 130 of those times people had to eat something that made them throw up. So I saw multiple people. There's six contestants. I saw so many people gag and I had to be interviewing them. Like while they were gagging sometimes, while they were throwing up in a dumpster, I'd be talking to them. That was such a big deal, that show. That was such a big deal. You know, I took that show because I thought it was going to be canceled. I thought, I'm going to get some jokes out of this. They're going to stick dogs on people. But you underestimated our deep desire for shot and foradale. Like watching other people be scared and humiliated. The Coliseum basically. Well, it was also, I underestimated the entertainment value of the competition because it was competition. That was the, the grossness was great. It was definitely fun to watch. And but there was also like real, like significant competition. Yeah. There were some great moments. This is one moment with his mother and her daughter beat this father and his son. And the father and son were assholes. They were just, the dad was like a dick. Like, this is how you get ahead in this world. You beat a fuck, a dick. And they were talking crazy shit to them. And then the kid fumbled and fucked things up. And the dad fucked things up. And the whole crew was crying. Everybody was so happy. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm fascinated. I'm crying for a second. Oh, God. I just sent Andrew Schultz a clip that I'll cry if I talk about because he was posting something about like a daughter asking his or a gymnast to the daughter was getting attached and wouldn't let her go to the routine. So she did it with her daughter. And there's this. Oh, there's this video of this girl. I think it's in Brazil. She's doing a cooking competition. And, you know, there's like, you know, timed cooking competitions. And she can't open a jar. And her dad is in the audience and she runs and gives it to her dad. And her dad just opens it. And it's like, gives me goosebumps every time. But Dad's man. But that that shit just kills me. That Oh, God, this kills me. This is how she runs. She can't get it open. Why do they make jars so fucking hard to open? By the way, if you're a dad, look at her dad. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, no. So this is costing all this time and he's freaking out. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, God. Oh, God. That's cool. You can do that, though. Yeah. Because it's ridiculous that you can't like opening a jar. We got to hit it on the side of a. Thing. Yeah. Or like if you just clank it on something, but it's like, I think he posted something about, you know, when like runners don't finish the race and the dad comes out and like helps him cross the finish line or something. Oh, gosh. I love shit like that so much. But I can't remember where we were on this. No, I'm just going to sob. Competition, fear factor. Disgusting. Yeah. It turned out to be fun. That's what it is. I think I'm fascinated by and I'm like a football dork. I know you're not like the biggest football fan, even though you watch a lot of games. Yeah. I like it now. I get it. I watched the Texas A&M versus the UT game. Yeah. Shit. It's incredible. Incredible. And I think that what you're going for is it's almost like this gambling addiction in a way, because it's like, even when your team loses, you're all losing together. And it's, you know, you get to feel like you're a part of something. There's so much like, you know, reptilian sort of hardwiring at play. But for me, it's like about these goosebumps moments that you can't have every game that would take the value out of them. Like this past season when have you been, I don't know if you're a football guy, Jamie, but Phillip Rivers coming back to the Colts and him coming out of retirement. Two major players came out of retirement this year that were like coaching. They were done coaching their kids, little league in high school. Phillip Rivers was just coaching, you know, 45, 44, 45 years old. It's a fun caveat with that too. But tell me, he's got so many kids. 10, right? Yeah. He was about to hit retirement. His five years, you have to wait to go to the Hall of Fame. But now he just like re-upped his NFL, like health insurance. So that gets coverage for me. He's rich as shit. He doesn't really need it. But just a little caveat of like, he gets coverage for life. Him getting caught. Here's what I realized. And I realized this at the UT game. When you're a fan of football, you get big moments many times. If you're a fan of a fight, you get the fight. And then one guy wins and one guy gets horribly destroyed sometimes. Like sometimes your guy gets flatlined and you're watching your guy laid out with his toes curled, his legs stiff, his arms up in the air. He's completely unconscious. And the other guy is on the cage like this. And then the medical people are taking care of your guy and you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. It's the worst when you see like families and children. No. Their dad get knocked out. No. No. No. It's so hard. No. That's so hard. We see wives crying and then the camera turns to them. You see them there. Oh, no. It's just football is a different thing. You know, when someone throws the ball and then the person catches it and goes across the line and you see a hundred thousand. That's right. That's it. That's it. That's it. And so much is the type of fan base, you know, but like I. But the people in the audience feel better. That's right. It's like they are they're celebrating in a different way. Because when a fighter wins, it's an individual. But when a team wins, it's your team. That's right. That's different. And you can make the argument on some level that, you know, you know, not your part of it, but like the energy you bring. Like when I went to the Rams game, I'm like, I'm gonna get Eagles fan and Rams game, all green, all Eagles fans coming for away games. Like, you know, it's imagine being like the Eagles and looking out at like all green in another, you know, city. Also, is it Matt Prady? I think it's his last name. It is a kicker for was it the bills? Both of the kickers got injured and like they didn't have a kicker and they're like, imagine getting the call, you're coaching like your middle middle school sons, whatever, a little league football and you get the call like we need you, you know, it's like, yeah, he goes in and he kicks like the winning field goal. This was in September, I want to say. I love shit like that so much. That's awesome. You know, when you also just moments like what's a Juan Barclay did last year, like jumping backwards over. Like there's a video of his teammates watching him do it going. Fuck. Like it's just, I love watching the interplay between the team members too. It's like comics. It's like, you know, I get it. I didn't like it before, but I get it way more now. I get it way more because for me, it's like a watered down version of fighting. I'm like, well, but now I get it. It's not that you're the as an audience member, it's better because you're like a part of the game. Like we are scoring. It's a really, it's a stupid thing to say. We, you never say we won that fight. That's right. That's right. Also, but I think the we of it also happens to, you know, the reason I think as live performers, when you see a team like the Eagles do so, so well, and then this last time they played the Rams just fall apart. You're like, what, just per what we were talking about with fear factor and what you're capable of when you're on TV, when you've been insulted, when your ego's been, when you're in front of your kid, right? I'm not going to eat a live rat, but if my kid is watching and someone just insulted my kid, it's I'm a different person. You know what I'm saying? I will fucking fuck this rat in the ass. You know, whatever I need to do, or if money's involved, I'm obsessed with sort of like the, you know, the most dangerous team to me is always the one that hasn't won any games. That's the most dangerous fighters. The one that needs money. That's right. That's right. And I'm just fascinated. Didn't play maybe whether I used to practice by doing like live Facebook, Facebook lives with like girls around to try to. Did it really? Yeah, huh? I think we do like Facebook lives. Well, he definitely did that to show off too. He was so fucking good. Yeah. He was so good, but he would do crazy things like they would have rounds that would go on for 10 minutes. He would, you know, he would have like, what would he call it? Like the dog pound. He like a name for it. We'd bring a bunch of guys in there and they would just box and they wouldn't have any rounds. They would just box. So like, you know, it's sink or swim. You got no rounds. You're just in there, but no one's going to tell you to stop. This is crazy. This is crazy. But he also, he also was a master at boxing people and talking shit to them. So it was, I'm sorry about my voice, but it was a part of like the whole thing of it was that you were watching all this chaos and then you're dealing with the psychological aspect of each guy talking shit to each other. And it's also like that's the doghouse refers to his gyms notoriously grueling sparring sessions known for intense no rules fighting until someone quits designed to push boxes to their absolute limits. I mean, it's not a mystery why he's one of the absolute greatest. Someone to it. Yeah. By the way, this guy's had multiple hand surgeries. So he couldn't really even like blast on guys like he used to when he was younger. You know, he was younger. They called him pretty boy Floyd. And so in the early days of his career, he was a knockout artist. He was fucking people up, but he doesn't have big hands. And so he was breaking his hands like multiple times. And so then he became money mayweather and just our box and everybody's face off. And like, if you go back and watch some of his early knockouts, also, he wasn't certainly facing the caliber of fighters he faces a champion, but he's the best ever at not getting hit. That guy's been cracked maybe like three or four times in his entire professional career, which is wild. And is his ability to not get hit? Is that from outworking everyone or something? Jenna, is there some gets a whole bunch of things that came together? So one of them, his dad, Jesus Christ, his dad was Floyd Mayweather, senior. OK, his dad fought Sugar Ray Leonard and gave him a hell of a fight. His uncle was Roger Mayweather. Roger Mayweather, multiple time world champion, the Black Mamba. So he grew up in a gym with Jeff Mayweather. And these guys were all killers and they were boxing scientists. They knew everything about boxing. It's a famous quote that people always use Roger Mayweather. See if you could find it. We was like, most people don't know shit about boxing. And everybody who knows anything about boxing. And by the way, I'm not a boxing expert. I'm like a fan compared to the regular person. I know more than most people. Hey, Rhonda, he's a fan. Most people don't know shit about boxing. Let's see if he can get him to say it because it's just it's the way he says it. Don't know shit about boxing. And it's 100 percent accurate. It's 100 percent accurate. Is boxing like not to like compliment like what we do in any of this is my sound insulting to athletes. But like, is it similar in a way to comedy in that there's certain things like you can't really teach like you have to find your thing. Well, there's certainly like genetic advantages that are huge. They're almost insurmountable. There's some people that have like speed, like Roy Jones, Jr. was the best example that he had speed that was otherworldly. Like no one had seen anything like that before. And he had a style that no one else had. Roy Jones. So the most important punch in boxing, if you ask any boxing trainer, they'll say the jab. The jab is what established his distance. The jab is what you could score with the right hand to try to knock him out. Left hook, try to knock him out uppercut. But the jab is the most important punch in boxing. Roy Jones rarely through jabs. He would throw left hooks. His left hook was so fast that he would throw a leaping left hook and it would hit you as fast or faster than another person's jab. And you had a calibrate for that when you're fighting him. Like all of a sudden there's a guy who can do things that are literally super human. Like no one can move like him. He has a left bicep that's like twice the size of his right bicep from throwing left hooks. And is this like like how Michael Phelps has normally long arms or something? Right. No, he developed that left bicep. That's why his right bicep is small. His right bicep is normal sized. His left bicep is fucking huge. So look at the photo. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bro, let me tell you something. Roy Jones in his prime was a freak of nature. And do you try to go like, OK, you know, I'm just going to. Look at his build. Look at that left hook. Insanity, dude. No. He was a freak and also extremely intelligent, crafty, set you up, knew what to do to get you to move this way and then you move in that way. And then he's doing things you can't do. So you don't anticipate that someone's going to be able to leap in from there and catch you with an uppercut. You're like, you don't even understand how it happened. Mm hmm. Faking only. He's the only guy in the history of, I believe, CompuBox. It might still be the case. And it was in this fight, the Vinnie Pazienza fight where look at that. Put his hands behind his back and knock the guy out. One of the only fights in the history of the sport where the opponent landed zero punches. That's the stoppage of Vinnie Pazienza. He was a freak. Wait, how did that even happen? He hit him with a left hook to the body. He was so fast. He would hit. Yeah, he was so good. All of his fights were essentially executions. He went from 168. He won the world title at 168. Went up to light heavyweight. When the world title light heavyweight went up to heavyweight. Won the world title at heavyweight. He was a fucking middleweight in the Olympics. That looks like member of the video of Putin doing like Kung Fu or Taekwondo and they're pretending to fall. That's what this looks like. It's like Roy was so fast. He was so fast and he was so hard to hit. Oh, yeah. The cartoon. There's a one to he hits this guy with a friend that I sent a friend of mine who's a boxing fan the other day. I'm like, look at the speed of this one to he hit this guy with a counter right hand, like a counter one to right hand. It was it was freakish. It didn't even make sense. There's the left hook. No, that left hook. Look at that left hook. That left hook is great. Look at him like what? No, no. He just went down. Watch that left hook again. He's trying to get up. He's face planting. And that's Montell Griffin, who was a world champion. Look at that left hook. Good Lord. He even was like, good Lord Lord. Yeah, there was, you know, there's guys that are amazing. And then there's Roy Jones. Roy Jones was he was a freak. I mean, it was like nothing. That was unbelievable. Oh my gosh. It was always fights. Look at that right hand of the body, Virgil Hill dropped. He knocked him out with a right hand to the by the way, to the left side of his body. But that's not even where your liver is. Your liver is over here. Guys get dropped all the time with a left hook to the body. He hit him with a right hook to the body and stopped him. I always get obsessed with like as like as comedians, the more comedy there is and has been the more original we have to be. You know, I'm always fascinated by like, you know, you know, fighting or sports, like, you know, football, for example, like, you know, go birds. The Eagles doing the tush push. It's like everyone had to start studying that and this thing that worked. Now everyone knows you do it. So, you know, it's fascinating to me when a fighter is so good at one thing, everyone starts learning to defend that. And then, you know, because it used to be like you could just fight and people saw the fight once and that was it. That's where Roy had the advantage over everyone else. Well, wasn't there was no internet back when Roy was on top. So the thing about the internet now is any kid with, you know, limited resources can study all the greatest boxers of all time. So Mike Tyson, when he was young, one of the great advantages that he had was Jim Jacobs was his manager and Jim Jacobs was a legitimate boxing historian who he carried these tapes and old films of everyone. Jack Johnson, Harry Grebb. He was watching Sandy Sadler, all these Willie Pepp, all these like Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson, all the great champions of history on film. So he'd study film footage all day. He would put these 32 millimeter or whatever it was, the 32 millimeter, 16. What are those things back then? 16. So the real to real. So you'd have to feed the tape and think, right, right, right. And he would sit there and watch everybody fight. So he had this massive advantage of seeing all these incredible fighters. Like he he he mirrored his style a lot around a bunch of different ones. But one of them, particularly was Jack Dempsey, who was like one of the most. I mean, I think Dempsey was the champion and I want to try to figure out what year this was, where Jack Dempsey was the heavyweight champion. He was like, it was a savage time. I think he was a hobo at one time in his life. Like it's a savage time. And he was a savage man. And he was annihilating people. And he wasn't very big either. From 1919 and 1926. Whoa, what did he weigh? What did Jack Dempsey weigh? When he was fighting. OK, I'm going to guess 180 pounds. One eighty seven. One eighty seven. He was the heavyweight champion of the world. He weighed 187 pounds. That's nuts. That's 13 pounds less than me. He was the heavyweight champion of the world. That's fucking bananas. And another one that's even crazier is Rocky Marciano. Rocky Marciano, who was the heavyweight champion in the 50s, I believe. When one of the only heavyweight champions to ever retire undefeated, he was five ten and he weighed, I think, 185 pounds. And he killed everybody. He killed people. He hit them so hard that they would just go dead. They would just shut them off and they would like collapse. He was a murderous puncher and he was a small guy. And 184 pounds when he won the title from Jersey Joe Walcott. Now, why? Google or a look up that fight. He was shorter and shorter. Look up that fight where the KO of Jersey Joe Walcott. You just have to see the punch he hits him with. And this is before peptides and. Oh, yeah, this is just he was eating spaghetti. This is this is like a crazy Italian from Brockton, Massachusetts. But just see if you can find the KO because the KO is is by the way, Jersey Joe Walcott is one of the all time greats. I mean, he was a phenomenal boxer. This is a little later in his time, you know, but he had had a long career. So he knocks him down with that right hand. But what's the KO, though, after this? This. Yeah, they must have fought twice. So find the second. The other one. Well. This is yeah, this is the one. OK, watch watch how he chaos him. He had some with that right now. He had the craziest work ethic of maybe any heavyweight of all time. He would work out. He would run 10 miles in the morning. He would work out all day long. Sometimes he was spar 100 rounds for a fight each week. He was sparring constantly. And then he would swim after training five miles in a lake. His cardio was just off the charts. And it was because he got tired once in a fight when he was an amateur. And he said, I'll never get tired again. And so he just decided to outwork everybody. But you got to see the KO, like see if you can zoom in. I mean, it was a brutal fight. I mean, Jersey Joe Walcott give as much as he got. But here it is right there. Oh, watch that again. Back that up again. Watch this right hand. Mic drop. Mic drop. The power in that. It's his every ounce of his body. Watch how in slow motion he creeps in. Look at the explosion, the extension of his back leg. See that extension, the back leg, the turn of the shoulder. The back gets into it. Boom. Look at his back. Oh, holy shit. Just fucking boom. That's over. I mean, and he's done. And again, Jersey Joe Walcott was a legend. And then he hit someone the left hook on the way down. He was totally down. Oh, he's dead. Gone. It's crazy how powerful that guy was. Before all the things before the plunge, all of it. No steroids, no anger and having been molested and eggs and an immigrant from Italy. I was thinking about this the other day, because I was in England. My brother lives there and I was like, I believe his family is from Italy. I think he was a child of immigrants. I'm obsessed with Italian immigrants, because like you go to Italy all the time. You're imagine like the people that were like, nah, like the how beautiful it was. We paid. We paid to go to Italy to see that view for three days. And they were like, no, thanks. I'd rather maybe get leprosy on a boat in for 10 weeks. Well, I don't know what life was like in the 1920s when my grandparents came over here, but it wasn't good. Yeah, no one was a lot of them came over from Ireland, Italy. Yeah, bad news. And they came over before YouTube. They just someone drew a picture. This is what it's like over there. You're going to get a job. Imagine like when I look at what goes on the comments section, America is so torn apart. I'm like, this wasn't ever going to go any other way. Like imagine I'm obsessed with just the ocean. Like just imagine looking at the ocean in a boat and being like, all right, I'll get on that. Right. Fuck with your kid. Only the craziest people. Right. That's why everyone in the East Coast is so fucking insane. I always say that. I always say that the most violent, crazy fucking people are on the East Coast. Why? Because they all came. Their grandparents came over on a fucking boat. Other ancestors had talk to plasmosis or whatever it was. And we're just like, I'd rather. Definitely at that. Yeah, I'd rather die and have frostbite and warm my frostbitten fingers in my wife's carcass, leprosy carcass, then not be able to worship who I want or say what I want. There's a lot of that, too. I mean, that's what brought people over here initially. A lot of people came over for religious freedom, which is a crazy thought. But like the Quakers, like what were those fucking people all about? Wasn't that a big part of why they came over here? Like they were being persecuted in England. Which is so weird because we go to England and pay to go in the churches now. We're like. I was like waiting in line to go in an English church. I'm like, what was the deal with the Quakers? Are they like a cult? Like are they around anymore? Are there any Quakers? Uncle Ben, Jamie says, yes. Yeah, Uncle Ben. Is it like, I think so. They make good rice. I think so. It's I don't know. I've been really into Amish, though. There's I'm in like Amish core algorithm where it's men like build barns in a day. Sexy, right? Dude, it's so hot. My porn is just watching men be useful. And they'll just build a barn and just like the Amish life. I feel like we're all kind of trying to go like, how do I get chickens? How do I self sustain? How do I like some guys think it's hot when women cook? Same reason. Same thing. It's like sexy because they're going to eat soon. Yeah, I mean, well, no, because a woman can cook. Yeah, a woman that's like like really into feeding you. Yeah, that's a good woman. Like a woman wants to cook for you. She wants to cook for you for a guy that's hot. This whole thing of like, I'm not going to cook for my man. It's like you get to eat too. I mean, like, what are you going to eat? Well, you don't have to cook for your man. Like, I wouldn't expect anyone to cook for me. I think that's crazy. I know how to cook, but there's something about somebody wanting to cook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wanting to do it. It's not doing it because it's a chore that you're making them do. Yeah. It's like somebody does something nice for you because they want to. It's so much better than if you have to ask them and they don't want to do it, but they can see to doing it. Yeah, yeah. You know? No, I love that. I also, I want to know what's going in your body. Well, it used to be a valuable trait for someone to be building something. Like a guy who could go out there and do something with his hands. Oh, that is a man that can provide a shelter. And if the roof breaks, he can fix it. Like this is a good. Also, he can do hard shit. He's he's a guy who's got endurance. He's durable. Yeah, and he's not going to fall apart like this job is too hard. There was a list of jobs that like were more likely to be replaced by AI and less likely and for some reason less likely was roofers, which I thought was interesting. I don't think they're right. They're going to have robots that can do a lot of things. Yeah, for sure. They'll have a roofing robot. That's not that difficult. A roofing robot Cosby will just start using a roofing robot. You're going to miss the value of a really fucking hard job because there's a value and a really hard job. And I know a lot of kids avoid hard jobs and you shouldn't do a hard job for your whole life, but there's a real value in a hard job. And that I had a job. Well, I've had a bunch of construction jobs when I was a kid because my stepdad's an architect. So I worked on a lot of construction sites. But I also had a very good friend, Jimmy Lawless, shout out to Jimmy. And when I was a kid, I worked with him. He was a year older than me and he'd already graduated. He was a carpenter's apprentice at the time, I believe he might have actually been a carpenter. And I just needed a job. And I think it was probably 18 or 19. And I got a job working on this construction site. We were building a wheelchair ramp for a Knights of Columbus hall. And I had to carry cement and pressure treated lumber all day. That was the job. I had terrible nutrition. I would eat sub sandwiches and drink a Coca-Cola and you're out there in the sun all day long. You're not hydrated. I was always dehydrated. And I was carrying cement and pressure treated lumber all day. Which is a gross lumber that they have to soak in horrible chemicals. Yeah, pressure treated lumber. Like you would get these splinters and they would get infected. It was nasty. Like you're you're dealing with whatever the fucking chemical that they treat that thing with. You're the radioactive shiny. It's on your skin and it's August. So you're sweating. So you're sweating like crazy. The shit is getting in your pores. You're carrying bags of cement. You're breathing cement dust all day long. And by two weeks I quit. And when I did quit I was I was I was like, OK, now I know that if I don't get my shit together and figure something out in life that that could be the best paying job that I can get. Yep. That whatever I got that I mean it probably wasn't even 20 bucks an hour. I don't remember what you got paid. And if I get injured I don't have health insurance and that's just my body. And I was clearly handling something that was toxic. Yeah. All day long. What is in pressure treated lumber? What are they used? It's supposed to be left outside to stop like insects and. Right. That's what it does. Like termites can't eat it. I have a weird question though. It's fucking poison. Is today's version of a poisonous dangerous job like that sitting at a desk looking at a computer all day? Well, it very well could be right. And don't they say that like LED lights are actually not good for you now? But just like sitting at a desk that is you know you don't have standing desk. You don't have one of these whatever Sybians or whatever I'm saying. And you're like I mean people just sending emails all day. Like is that definitely bad for your back? It's tightened my lower back considerably. I think a big part of it is sitting like this all the time. So I'm super conscious about it now where I do a lot more lower back exercises. Oh, yeah. That I ever used to do before. But you I got that machine you told me to get where you lift your back reverse hyper. That's right. Yeah. Louis Simmons, who was a legend in powerlifting, he invented that because he crushed his discs. And they told him that he had to get his discs fused. And he said, well, if I crushed him, can I separate them? And they're like, no, it can't be done. He's like, I'll figure it out. So he made a machine and you climb on this machine and he realized that in the descending, you're actually decompressing your back. And in the ascending, you're strengthening all the muscles around your back. It's a fucking genius piece of equipment. No, I was one of the rare people that I traveled to do a podcast with. Oh, cool. Yeah, I got that's like the main machine I kind of like have. It's the shit. Yeah, he's also got a belt squat that he gave us before he passed. And that that machine is awesome, too. You put a belt around your waist and then the cable goes down in between your legs and you're standing on a platform and there's a stack of weights behind you. So instead of doing squats, which are one of the best exercises of all time. But the problem with squats is if you're squatting heavy, you've got all that weight on your back. OK, it's all your if you got like 400 pounds, your squatting, if you're a beast and you're fucking you've got 400 pounds, try to crush all your discs. And the only thing that's keeping that from happening is your strength. All your fucking core muscles and your spine muscles. But you're compressing everything with that weight with a belt. You're not. Oh, yeah. So is on your hips and all the weight is down there. There it is. So that's me using it at his at his place. And then he he gave us. Is to sit down, squat machine, bullshit. No, these ones. No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. No, that's a leg press. That's that's a very, very good machine. That's what I do. I just don't have my knees or the problem with that. Is he ever see what happens when people lock their legs out and it bends backwards? Oh, yeah. What do you mean? Don't that's Jamie. Don't Jamie. Pull that shit up. I hate this. Like I'm calling it. I need to know. You need to know that this can happen because I saw it happen to a lady once in one of these videos that looked like she never worked out. The one with the guy's sphincter came out and I don't know without us getting in. I was in. I was getting ready to see what I'm going to find. I was in the sphincter algorithm. I don't want to get in the knee snap algorithm. Well, as a person who's had three knee surgeries, I do. I have all the flotters in my left knee. So I just have to like. And when you squat, are your are your knees supposed to go over your toes or not? I do. You 100 percent. Thank you. 100 percent. Ken, especially if you could build up to it. I do knees over toe stuff. Yeah. I had that guy knees over toes on the podcast. He's amazing. I follow him. You should. Everybody should follow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 percent right. Yeah. He's one. I mean, I will tell you 100 percent. I there's no room for error. That guy's right. Yeah. He has an amazing protocol for strengthening all the muscles around your knees. Yeah. I followed it is radically changed the progression of the injury and made my leg stronger than it was before the injury. Yeah. I also do weighted vest kind of all day. I've worked out. It's only like 30 pounds. What I do. That's the Gary Brecca move. Oh, is it 30 pounds is a lot. You're carrying a 30 pound weight vest. I have a 30 and I have a 15. So I realized that with my kid, I'm bending over so much and picking him up so much. I was like, I can probably like kind of work out all day if I really just like wear weighted vest. That's a lot of weight to wear. It's gone taken from me at TSA a couple of times, but I'll just get it. That's a little bit. They take it. If it's the place. Just kidding. Just kidding. I'm like, you think that's the worst thing in my bag? Three off from the fucking gun I have in my purse. Just have like a digital recorder in your pocket. It looks like you're ready to press a button. So they the best back in the suitcase. It's just like anthrax chill. But yeah, they take it every now and then. But I kind of just try to wear it like kind of all the time. And then I'll do whenever I'm writing. Like if I am sitting down, I'm going like, I have to make sure that this sitting down, which is so bad for me. There's something else happening. So Hubertman gave me the it's called it's a red light, but it's like sauna space or it's just a bulb, one big red light bulb. That's the same as the like the juve or something. That's like a bunch of little red lights. Was if it's working for you, it must be. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I don't. I'm not a red light expert, but I bought Gary Brekka's machine. Oh, the full body guy. Big, giant, crazy body machine. It's the shit. Can you go in there and just like fall asleep or something? I do fall asleep, but I'm always tired. I'm always doing too much. But when I get in there, it's 20 minutes. I just lay there for 20 minutes and 100 percent. It's helping with my eyesight. But you keep your eyes open. You don't put the glass. Sometimes they give you like glasses. Fuck your glasses. Yeah. Fuck your glasses. I'm here to tell you I'm living proof. Unless somehow or another, my eyes are getting damaged and I don't realize it. How are they getting better then? Yeah. Why is my vision better? That's the other thing with all this. Why does it not bother me at all? It doesn't seem that strong when it's in my eyes. It's not like I'm like, oh, my God, I can't look at it. Yeah. If it was that bad to look at, wouldn't it be hard to look at? Like the sun is hard to look at because it's bad to look at. That's right. You know, bright lights. So I'm like, Jesus Christ, it's hard to look at. This is not hard to look at at all. But it's also like with the lot of this. That's my meathead logic. It don't hurt. Don't worry. Meathead logic is like, we're so suspicious of like simplicity, which like, does it work for you? Yes, then it works. You know what I mean? If it works, it works. And that shit works. Because we're all like. But there's a ton of science behind red light therapy, including like what frequency it's at. Because this one that he has, it's attached to an app and you go through the app and you could change it for different effects. Oh, I don't know how much that's real. That's what I'm saying. It's like, dude, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I as a as an aspiring snake oil salesman, like, you know, I remember I was with a friend of mine who's a big like lawyer in LA and we're kind of more friends that he worked with prior and he just got all these stories. Like he was there the day that Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire. Like he was at the commercial. Like he's more like just my buddy and, you know, we were outside and they're like mosquitoes and I had this like citronella candle, you know? And I was like, I'll let me light the candle. So the mosquitoes and he's like, those don't work. And I was like, it's citronella. OK, I'm going to light it so that we don't get mosquito bites and get bitten with whatever whatever is in the fentanyl water of this state. And he's like, it doesn't work. And I was like, yes, it does. And he's like, no, it doesn't. I was like, how do you know? He's like, because my dad invented it. It's fake. Oh, my God, that's hilarious. But like it also the flame, he was like, the flame does deter them a little bit. So it doesn't not work. But it's like, you know, so I'm fascinated by those things. And also, I don't know if when you were broke, you ever just did like weird shit. Like I used to do studies like when I first moved to LA. No, you were like a lab rat. So here's the thing about studies is like pretty much anyone can sign up. And it's usually people that need 50 bucks like now. Right. So that's already a pretty biased sample of people. People that are like, like in like in DT's, basically, like shaking, needing drugs like this minute and you get $50 cash. And the more you talk and the more you complain, the more they'll ask you back. So I'm not going to say these big companies that I did stuff for. But like, you know, everything from food to skincare to I mean, I did a lot of pharmaceutical trials at colleges that like the pill never came out. Like the FDA never approved it. Like there's things where I'm like, wait, did that ever get passed? Or I just took that for a month for what was the, you know, but I also I took Accutane, I took all kinds of stuff. You know, bad news. But, you know, so look in studies, like it's it's kind of the same group of people like where I was. It was like there were a lot of by pink dots where I used to live. And there were all these like office buildings you would go in. It was usually like 20 people. And most of them just want to get the fuck out of there. I would be like, so yeah, no, I did. You see some of the same people over and over again. There was like seven or eight people. We would all go to every study and we'd all get called back. OK. And you get to know them outside of the study. And then now when I like look at like side effects of a pill and it's like drowsiness, I'm like, that's Jocelyn, dude. She's always drowsy, though. She's drowsy even when she's not in the study. Like are we hung out? But like these are people that always would like like headaches. Like he always has a headache, dude. I saw him before he took that pill. Like he's always complaining about headaches. These are human beings that just say what they have to say to try to get into more studies. I'm not saying this isn't all true. Like that's hilarious. I'm just fascinating because as someone who was a flawed, desperate person who needed $50, I was very much like, well, what about this? Yeah. And by the time they ask you if you have it, you probably do. They're like, did this cause anxiety? I'm like, well, I'm in a study for money. So yeah, I have anxiety now that I think about it. If I wasn't anxious before, you just made me realize how much my life sucks. Like like it was like UCLA would be like depression. If you have depression, come do this study. It's like, even if I don't have it now, by the time I get to the study, I'll be depressed that this is my life. So sure. You know, so studies, I'm always a little bit like, and who, what person, like the thing that gets thrown around a lot. I had a boy and people always want to throw around like girls mature faster. It's like, it makes sense, but you're like, who put me in a cage with the guy that wanted to study boys and girls maturing? How would you, like, like you were watching girls and boys mature? What do you, what is this? Human biology is fascinating. I don't physical maturity, emotional leave out the possib- well, both. Right. I think, but why wouldn't you want to study that? That's like one of the weirdest things that happens to people is you know, when a person is an adult, we have an agreement at 18, you get it. Yeah. Okay. So what's happening? How do you define is it physical maturity? Is it? Well, girls are better in school. It seems like their minds develop faster. They believe their frontal lobe is fully formed quicker with boys. I think it takes till they're 25 until your frontal lobe is fully formed. It's probably testosterone, which is like some probably some kind of mental poison, which is probably why people associate testosterone with shitty behavior, right? Because there's probably part of it at least. That's like a little bit toxic. They say boys should be moving when they're learning. Yeah. Well, they also need to blow it out. And a lot of boys don't, they don't blow it out. So if you're out playing football or wrestling or doing something that's really hard to do, you're at this weird stage of your life where you used to be a child and then all of a sudden you start getting testosterone and then you're looking in the mirror like, what the hell's happening to me? And you're a child, right? So you're 13, 14 years old, your body's developing. It's fucking weird. It's weird. And then you start getting aggressive. Well, kids are a lot of boys are aggressive early on, but a different kind of aggressive. Yeah. Like a violent, dangerous, aggressive. Yeah. Kids get 15 and 16 and they start playing around with violence a lot more. And you know, you have schoolyard fights that get pretty brutal. You know, things become different when boys become more dangerous. And that's like a primordial instinct to like find the pecking order of the tribe kind of thing. Yeah. The Lord of the Flies type thing or do you think I want to go back to that in a second or don't have to. But I was just going to say this is why it's probably important because it's always associated with dumb people and there's probably some accuracy to that because the people that I know that have been the most brilliant scientists except for Huberman, there are a lot of them are very low-test, hostile males. Yeah. Right. And they're males that became like very interested, intellectual pursuits and they're way better at it because they're better at it because they spend so much time doing it. Or is it because of the testosterone? Is it because these higher testosterone men are distracted all the time? They're more angry and they're more horny and they're more reckless. They want to fucking skydive and crazy shit. Like is that is that what it is? Like it might be it might be a factor. And if these guys did have low testosterone, they'd probably be interested in being stimulated in some other way. Or is it just that intelligent people recognize that these are stupid pursuits? Yeah. And I'm not interested even if I have normal testosterone. Well, it's probably a combination of all those things. But it seems to be like there's a lot. You associate a scientist with like a nerdy, weak guy. You associate a meathead as, you know, some jack guys being really fucking stupid. Why? Because we pattern recognize. Right. Right. Of course. But is it because they're actually dumber like biologically? Or is it because they're dumber and they have more testosterone? I'm also fascinated by the way we define intelligence and maturity. By the way, I heard this quote the other day and I don't know who said it. It was in a, I don't know, but it was because we spend so much time trying to gain intelligence. I want to know everything I need to be so, you know, I want to learn. I want to learn. I want to, you know, and then I think there's a certain point. Maybe it's because I've had a kid I'm sort of more interested in like wisdom, especially also when you've been around long enough and you've seen things you found to be true, be completely debunked. Like remember when we all thought soy milk was healthy and now half my guy friends have tits and my girlfriend's tits all got cut off. I'm like everyone I know has cancer and I'm like, we were just like deep throating soy milk. Like, you know, so how much glyphosates and that stuff after you've been conned enough, you're sort of like, you know, I think very skeptical about accepting these like new truths. And look, we learned that the Native Americans and the pilgrims had like a fun dinner. They like got along great. Like that's what like, did you have a mural in my school of the Native Americans and the pilgrims like having dinner, like having a great time. I feel like that's not how it went down, you know, so when enough things get sort of debunked, but this quote I loved, which is intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad. And I like that. That's good. That's logical. You know, because like there's also there's different kinds of intelligence. Yeah. And there's the intelligence to be able to push yourself physically. It's you don't think of it intelligence because it's not like equations. It's not problem solving, but it is problem solving because it's problem solving emotions and anxiety and fear. And you're doing it with your willpower. That is it's mental fortitude is it's a part of intelligence. It's just on a recognized part of intelligence for people that are absorbed with all the other pursuits. People that are really heavily absorbed with mathematics would never think that like endurance running is a mental pursuit, but it might be all mental. Well, that's the thing when you say like athletes, meatheads, like that's I mean, football is all math. You know what I mean? It's like, I think we also just have this. We talk about stereotypes against women. We don't talk a lot of stereotypes about men. Like he's an athlete. He must be dumb. You know what I mean? Like there's just these kind of, I think sort of silly assumptions. Like, you know, I'm obsessed with commercials from the 90s where every man just like had down syndrome. Like remembering like every commercial, the women was like, I have to feed my husband. And he's just like, where's the front door? Like it like in sitcoms, men are always portrayed as if they just like have one chromosome, you know. And I'm sort of fascinated by that. But the definition, yeah, what does intelligence mean? Does it mean memorizing a bunch of stuff from a book that like, was it? Where are our textbooks written by like Galeen Maxwell's dad or something? I'm dead serious. No, I think you might be right. Like I is that it? It's wise without going too far. He did do something about consolidating a bunch of medical journals. The textbooks thing, maybe there was a there was a history there was a history to expect that is like and, you know, so memorizing a bunch of stuff that like may or may not be true, like that's not intelligence necessarily. Like you could be falling for a con. I think intelligence is right. Like we're talking about what you and Brumman said about medical journals, right? You know, that he had talked to that professor and he said, what percentage? The guy was like, at least 50. Yeah. 50 percent. And then who is wild and who paid for the other ones? That's so wild. Yeah. The idea that we know everything is crazy. Here's another weird thing that you said something that football is all math. There is this really weird thing that I was reading about the invention of mathematics and they were talking about one of the most the biggest conundrums in the universe is that they invent this thing. Humans invent this thing to try to solve the universe and they find out that the universe is encoded with it. Is this like the turtle shell is the calendar? This really stressed me out. I did see that. I did see that, but I didn't I didn't look into that at all. Turtle shall this was like I wanted to bring it up on here. See if we could fucking dive into what exactly this guy is saying. But essentially saying the universe is made out of the thing that we invented to measure it. That's how he described it to my monkey mind, right? Like that math was something that human being like calculus, like advanced physics, like these crazy equations. Call Eric Weinstein immediately. Yeah, I'll tell you Howard someone Eric Weinstein. And he would explain differential equations. I don't understand what that means. I can say those words. Right, right, right. But we invented it. Humans invented that so that they could figure out how the universe is made. Like what what what is the structure of things, how to measure things. But the universe itself is encoded with this. It's like it is made out of the thing that we invented to try to figure out my adjacent tangent. Well, Jamie looks up whatever that is because I can't really respond to it, except with this sort of realization that all the movies that current tech onto our Benjamin Franklin's of our day grew up on science fiction movies in many ways formed what they believe a future should look like. Like you had someone on the podcast, someone sent me this clip about how you said, like, how is AI going to kill us? And he goes, I can't tell you because I would never have thought of it. Like I can't think of it how like it wouldn't even occur to me to know what they would do. Yeah, it'll do some slick Roy Jones Junior shit on you. So it's going to do is going to do the Roy Jones Junior of tech. And it's going to do it where in a way that we could have never possibly thought that it would control us in that manner. And then it would just govern us and probably limit our breeding. And that would be a wrap. Like how tech bros like grew up watching weird science. So by the time they go to start inventing stuff, you know, like how that influenced the way that they invent things. I think AI is probably going to tell us to either adapt or go away. It's going to give us those options. Because I think it's going to say you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result. What you're talking about war and stealing money and embezzlement and fraud and the amount of money that's in politics and Congress and the amount of politicians that lie, you've been doing it this way forever, forever. If AI said, listen, you can't govern things anymore. You guys are super fucking corrupt. Yeah, you're now going to change. You can't do any of the things you've been doing in terms of distribution of wealth, controlling of natural resources, what you dug a hole in the ground so you get the world's oil. Fuck you. Yeah. That's crazy. You don't own the oil because you own the ground. It's literally a part of the world. So we'll take all the oil distributed to everybody. If I was AI, that's what I would be saying to try to find some kind of. I'm not saying I'm not saying oil to oil people. You don't own the oil. But then it kind of AI would think that. So you think AI would have a concept of fairness and would go, everyone should have a certain amount of happiness or would AI go, well, this is how things have always been. So like. It would recognize that human beings are so destructive and so often full of shit and manipulative and looking to just figure out a reason or a way that they can sneak something through or make something happen or overthrow a government. AI is going to go, you can't do it that one. Yeah. We're not going to give you that kind of power anymore because you guys are abusive every single time you get a lot of power. But then it's going to be like, OK, what did the people do now? What if the people resort to violence? And then it's going to say, like, look, you can't have any more fucking kids. You guys are making kids. They're not. You're going to either have to integrate with us or you're going to have to go away. So they're going to go, you have to fuck us. I guess you have to fuck us. Of course, that's always where it ends. So but because AI is is based on an amalgam of all of us by that very nature wouldn't mean that they would abuse their power once they get it. They're going to go, you abuse power, but because we do maybe. But why are we doing it? Like, are we doing it because of chimp instincts? Right. Like I'm reading this book, The Chimp Paradox, recommended by Ronnie O'Sullivan. You're that book, The Chimp Paradox. That's what it's called, right? Make sure I get it right. But it's all about you have like a person in your head and a chimp in your head. And you got to decide like when to listen to the champ and what? Yeah, that's it. That's the book. Very good book on mental management. And Ronnie O'Sullivan is like one of the greatest snooker players of all time, if not the greatest. What's the white game snooker? They call it snooker snooker in England. It's a crazy cool game that's like a pool game, but it's a way bigger table. It's like a 12 foot table. And there's different rules and I don't understand it totally. I don't know how the score goes. I don't I don't I've never played it. But this guy was just a fucking wizard at it. But like most wizards, he's a crazy person. Sure. He had a hard time managing his mind. You know, he just go off the rails and think he was useless and think he could never win. Yeah. You know, and just whatever fucking mental demons you battle when you're truly brilliant at something. He recommended that book. I dug I could just get into some weird space about Pythagoras's stuff. Some guy wrote an article about the math thing. Yeah, that was kind of in the title. He was in it at mathematics. It's what the world is made of. He wrote about it. Oh, Pythagoras is revenge. Most people think mathematics is a human invention. To this way of thinking, mathematics is like a language. It may describe real things in the world, but it doesn't exist outside of the minds of the people who use it. But the Pythagorean school of thought in ancient Greece held a different view. Its proponents believed reality is fundamentally mathematical. More than 2000 years later, philosophers and physicists are trying to take this idea seriously. As I argue in a new paper, mathematics is an essential component of nature that gives structure to the physical world. Honeybees and hexagons. Bees live in hives produce hexagonal honeycomb. Why? According to the honeycomb conjecture in mathematics, hexagons are the most efficient shape for tilling the plane. If you want to fully cover a surface using tiles of a uniform shape and size while keeping the total length of the perimeter to a minimum, hexagons are a shape to use. Have you seen when someone tests if honey is real or not and they put honey on a plate and it just starts forming a hexagon? Sick! What? Yeah. Is that real? Yeah, I went on that. Dude, bees are so metal, dude. They are so metal. You know, it's more metal. Tell me. The wasps who behead the bees. Don't get me started on wasps. Oh, dude. Those wasps who come in and just wipe out an entire colony. There's a big-ass wasp infestation I think coming next summer to California. Wasps are scary. Dude, they don't they- aren't they just assholes? Like, they don't even have predators? Like, they don't even serve any purpose except to just kick the shit out of these? I don't know what purpose they serve other than scare the fuck out of me. Although bears eat the larvae. Oh, really? Yeah. Dude, I got stung by a wasp. You know, if you go underwater, they'll wait for you. They wait. They're like the Belgian Malmoy of the insect world. No, as I'm saying, they're just dicks. Like, they're just- instead of moving on, they wait. Whereas a bee- but a bee doesn't want to sting you. If you get stung by a bee, like- Well, a hornet can sting you over and over again. A wasp can sting you over and over again. A bee can only sting you once and it's dead. It's only stinging you to get you the fuck away from the queen. Yeah, they don't want to sting you, yeah. They want you to get the fuck away from the queen or get the fuck away from the hive. They don't just want to sting you for no reason. You had the bee lady, I think, on here. She DM me about something because I'll like- I'll like get bees out of my pool all the time when they're like drowning, even though they do have the ability to make their wings go so fast that they can get out of the water when they go in circles, so sick. But I was like rescuing them from my pool and she was like, if a bee is out, that means they're a forager bee and they're gonna die in a couple of days anyway. I don't know if I'm sure. Oh, so you're risking your life for this fucking bee? I'm for like just for two minutes, yeah. Trying not to drown. Yeah, I'm just stopping Darwinism. I found a few videos. It could be bullshit, apparently, but it does- it is weird when you pour water into the honey. It starts forming. A hexagon? Like a honeycomb. Whoa! What? And they're saying it's like a memory, which everyone says that's bullshit, but it's doing that. How's that not just water bubbles mixed in with the honey? When people have done fake honey, it dilutes it in a different way, but someone in the top comment here said they did the exact same thing. It happened. That was one of the things that beekeeper lady was telling us is a lot of honey's bullshit. It's got corn syrup in it. Oh yeah, I mean as I have my two jars of honey in front of me, but I do try when I travel to eat local honey when I land. Yeah, she said that's bullshit too, that thing about it like helping your immune system. But I don't know how you would know that. Placebo effect is an effect, so now what? It's good for you though. Honey's good for you. There's some good aspects to it. Manuka honey, anything on that? I think that's a scam. She said they just had a good PR agent. Good for them. But there is psychedelic honey. Do you know about that? Yeah, this is wild because the way they have to collect it, it grows on cliff sides. So these guys, they have to repel and risk their fucking life to get this honey that makes you trip balls. Because there's a special kind of flower, I guess, that has a psychedelic compound in it. And I don't know what the compound is. A guy brought it in, I tried it, it was interesting. He said just take a half a spoonful, so I said, fuck you, we're going in. I took the whole spoonful, I'm like, let's see, let's see what's up. It's something, there's something there. Is there something about the sugar that? That's what it looks like, but see if you can show them harvesting because when they harvest, this is how they do it. How crazy is that? So these guys on this giant rope ladder and probably don't have any safe equipment. Is that a mushroom or a lo? Those are all the hives, that's how they grow under cliffs. So sick. And what is it that if a bee stings you, does it help with inflammation? Like if you're. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes it helps people with arthritis and shit. Yeah. Like bee stings, like people have used them to alleviate certain forms of arthritis. Make sure that's true. Appreciate it's true. Or the pain is so severe that you just. You hear about the lady that fell out of a plane, I think she was skydiving, I think it was a skydiving exercise. And she landed on a fire ant calling and they kept her alive because they stung the fuck out of her and her adrenaline literally kept her alive. And is that also what I remember? I had my ear. Look at that. Look at that little motherfucker. So sick. They're so sick therapy. How it works. Okay, how does it work? Click on this one says too risky for treating osteoarthritis. I think it's. Oh, don't be a pussy. That's just because they can patent bees. I mean, isn't that what acupuncturists like based on? If they could patent bees, then they would make you do it. Yeah, Bill Gates is buying all the bees. Of course you need to get vaccinated for arthritis. And it would be like arthritis is costing us so much. Arthritis is actually disease. It's costing us so much money. That's it. And we've patented bees. So we're going to you got you have to get stung by our bees. Yeah, so funny. It's like it didn't NMM. Didn't they start taking that off the market so they could make it prescription or something? Is that true? They're probably trying to do a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah, like all trying to keep like certain peptides from becoming legal. It's silly. It's silly. It's all good for people. I know you're not going to make money off of it. Doesn't mean it's not good for the overall human race. Yeah. You shouldn't be able to stop products that are super beneficial just because you can't profit off of them. That means you have a captive industry. That's not good for anybody. It's not good for you that you're allowed to do that. Shouldn't be allowed to do that. It's not good for anybody else. Peptides are really beneficial to people. Some of them are okay as long as they're making a ton of money off of them like these WGOV peptides. The ones that like GLP1 inhibitors. Do you know the numbers of people that are on those now? It's cookie. It's like more than 10 million in this country. What's the number of people that are on GLP1s? Is that also called? Osempic. That's right. Yeah, WGOV. And there's another. There's a bunch of different names for them. Basically, it's a GLP1. It's a peptide. And I mean, there's good press about it. There's bad press about it. It's like, the person I saw this morning, she's like, I lost 60 pounds. She's like, even if there's side effects, I was going to get diabetes. Like, it was bad. 100%. Obesity was our big problem. It's like almost everything. There's like goods and bad stuff. Like I said, I took Accutane when I was, I think 14 or 15. And they're like, oh, well, side effect is your suicidal. I'm like, when you're 15 and you have acne, you're suicidal. Like I'll take whatever the side effects are. Yo, this is nuts. Okay, no full year total, exact full year total, publicly available from major sources. As data through September shows rapid growth but lacks a December closeout. True VETA data reports, 12,003,009 GLP1 prescriptions from January 2018 to September 2025. 12 million prescriptions is a lot. But I got to think that's way more today. Because in 2018, you're not getting a lot of people like, I would like to see like a chart of when it kicks in. So it's 6.5% of all US prescriptions up slightly from prior quarters. And when your insurance companies, they should theoretically support it and pay for it. Well, definitely if you're morbidly obese, it'll prevent you from a lot of real problems of morbid obesity if you really get it together with this shit. And then when there's a bunch of negative stuff about it, I'm like, did the lap ban pay for this? Well, it's all, look, you can definitely have side effects. Like Brian Simpson took it and he had horrible side effects. He had to get off of it. But it also, there's a lot of people that took it and they lost 100 pounds and they're way healthier than they would be before. It's just like the way Brigham Bueller from Waste of Well Described, he said it's like it has to be taken conjunction with other things that are keep your body from wasting away. And you should be doing strength, like Peter Atea has talked about this as well. You should be doing strength training while you're doing it. Like because you're going to lose weight because you're not, you're at a calorie deficit. So you're going to lose muscle too and you're going to lose bone density. So you got to mitigate that. So there's an idea that they would combine them with, I think they did something with peptide. So like an IGF-1 along with this and the two of them together keep you from wasting away. Yeah, I was doing like that Metformin for a minute and I was like, yeah, you lose muscle mass, but you're like, but also the effect of sugar, like, you know, so now I'll just take it every now and then when I eat like a lot of pasta or I want to have like a, you know. The Metformin one's very polarizing. Yeah. A lot of people really believe in it. A lot of people think it's a crazy idea. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I'm pretty steady. I do like the NMN, NR, which is like the true Nigerian stuff. I mean, Huberman is, I'm just like, tell me what to do. NAC, I'm like, I'm sauna. And then also sometimes it's like the absence of things. Sometimes like, what are you doing? It's like, what are you not doing? Like there's a point where you're just like, I that person's an acquaintance, not a friend. Like there's certain like, I feel like maybe it's when you become a mom, you have to also reassess like your emotional diet or your mental diet of like, as well. Yeah. Well, you just have to do that as an adult anyway. True. Otherwise you're just going to run into problems all the time that are totally avoidable. Yeah. And then not these people just, they make the same fucking mistakes over and over and over again. That's right. They drag you into their bullshit over and over and over again. And you don't want to change. Like you're addicted to a general and I'm obsessed with all the addictions that aren't like a substance, drugs, alcohol. It's like, oh, you're a gambling addict just with women or just with men or like you're an adrenaline, a drama addict. Like I can't. It's like, do you, this is how I say it. Do you look forward to hanging out with that person? And if you don't, then it's a chore. Do you look forward to hanging out with someone? Like even if they're crazy, it's like, yeah, it's okay. Yeah, totally. It's okay. This is fine. It's all like, what are we all doing? We're all trying to get along together. And if one of us is not trying to do that, one of us is out for self. And there's certain people that are just, they just can't get their shit together. Yeah. And desperate people do desperate stuff. And I think that with what we do, it's interesting because some friendships, they'll just be like, oh, come on the podcast. And it's like, we haven't hung out though either. Like we don't text. Comics, I think. It becomes transactional. It starts feeling weird. Such a big part of what you've done for comedy is that green room and having a space that's comics, I think, started going so crazy during the pandemic, myself being one of them, because it's like all of our conversations were monetized and for public consumption, we stopped just hanging out off camera. Right. And a lot of people were doing it remotely. So they were having podcasts remotely with their friends. That was like their only human interaction. That's right. That's so bad. Nothing I did during the pandemic should have been filmed. But we also have to actively go out of our way to be off camera too, guys. Yeah. Well, communities, it's so important. The people that don't think it's important just don't have it. If you have it and you have a bunch of friends and you get to hang out and have fun together, it's like, stepping into a well of love. That's it. Oh, we're all here. What's up? And also just like, I don't have to tell you, you know those comics that you look up to so much of their legends and then all of a sudden they just stop being funny and you're like, how did this happen? Whether it's because they've incubated themselves against doing what normal people do on a daily basis and of assistance, but they surround themselves. They're not friends with comics. It's always that. It's like, how did that person start? They're just not friends with comics and they don't have someone humbling them constantly and pushing back and giving them shit. And all the motivations that got them to be funny when they were younger have been eliminated because almost all of it is to try to get extra attention from girls or from your friends. You're trying to be funny. You have no motivation to be funny anymore because everybody loves you and you're rich. And being a comic is a lot, I think, of like having almost intentional contrarian Tourette's where you'll just say some shit that like it's a crazy premise. Like sometimes stand up is like saying something that isn't true and then proving it, you know? And to say some and have someone fight back with you. That's why I think comics, when people are like, why do comics talk about woke culture so much? It's like, because we see disagreeing as an interesting conversation. You guys see it as fascism and like also woke culture is trying to dictate what people can and can't say and we can disagree and you can't tell me what I can and can't say. My body, my choice, but not what your mouth does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't just say and you start saying punch a Nazi like settle down. Yeah. Figure out what a Nazi really is. Yeah. What are you saying? You're a Nazi because you don't think biological male should be competing with women in sports because I've heard that thrown out that way. Well, that's crazy talk. You don't get to define things like that. That's what you're doing when you're fighting against woke culture. You're fighting against nonsense that can't stand up to facts. And the thing about things that stand up to facts is people usually don't defend them violently. They usually discuss them clearly because it's obvious. But this one, it's not backed up by facts. Yeah. So the opposition of it is like violent and angry. Like they want to stop debate. They want to stop conversation. This is what the problem with woke culture is. What it is, it's just an ideology like any other one. It's got its own rules. And because it's not based on logic, it has to be very angry. It has to scare you. Do people look at hippies like this in the 70s? They wanted to do that. That's how the CIA tricked the fucking the hippies into doing all that Manson shit. That's what they were trying to do with the whole Charles Manson. Have you ever read that chaos? I have it. I've started it. Tom O'Neill's book. It's fucking incredible. Can't recommend it enough. Yeah, I need to read it. But it's all about them discrediting. So they were terrified of the love movement. They were terrified of all these people that were taking acid and going to Woodstock. And they were like, Jesus Christ, we're losing the cultural battle. And so they got together with Charles Manson and gave him a bunch of acid and taught him how to mind fuck people. And this guy went out and killed a bunch of people and they blamed it on the hippies. They're like, oh my God, we got to make acid illegal. They made acid illegal like that year. And then the whole world went kooky. They shut down all the psychedelics. That was the sweeping Schedule One Act of 1970. When was the Manson murders? What year was the Manson murders? And while you're finding that I'm obsessed with CIA, the Philippines operation, the 50s, where they made it look like vampires, suck the blood of a bunch of the rebels. Have you seen this? Did you? Really? I've heard about this before. I've heard about it. It's so sick. 69. So the Manson murders happened in 69. Oh, yeah. In 1970, acid, mushrooms, DMT, all that stuff becomes illegal. Schedule One. Yeah. That's crazy. They threw water on a movement of people abandoning this path that they see their family on, their mother and their father, and they're not happy. And these people are dying unhappy and they're getting heart attacks and they're dropping dead at 60. And these kids are saying, I don't want that in my life. I want to follow the grateful dead. I want to make art. I want to dance. I want to go to music festivals. I'll figure out how to live. And they were like, no fucking way. We don't want war. Make love, not war. What? Americans in the street saying love, not war. Never before. Not 1947. Think about the end of World War II. You couldn't imagine Americans in the street, but in 1967 they're doing it. 1967, they don't want to go to Vietnam. And they're saying no to war. And they're in the street and they're wearing flowers. They call them flower children. Crazy. So they had to turn them into monsters. And so they got Manson. Women had to wear bras again. Nightmare. All that stuff. I got in a wormhole on the CIA, Hendricks and Cobain. I'm like, I just can't. There's certain things I... I think they have their fingers and probably everything they can get their fingers in. And do they have to? I think they do. In some ways, but the problem is they have power that they probably shouldn't have. And then there's always going to be some crazy guy who keeps pushing things. And next thing you know, you're selling Coke and Nicaragua. Dude, this guy... So it was... There was some myth in the Philippines about this vampire that would kill whatever it was. And then they... In the middle of the night, take these rebels that they need to deal with and they drain them of their blood and put... Sorry, puncture. I'm just obsessed with the guy that had to do the puncture marks. There's a guy who had to do the vampire marks. And so that everybody woke up and these rebels that they were following, they saw that they had been attacked by vampires in it. How did they kill them before they drained their blood? How many dudes did they whack too? That's kind of crazy. That's a great idea. So sick. That's what I'm saying. Imagine if you were a fucking soldier and you thought you were really in a blade movie. You thought this shit was real. Like if you're living in the Philippines and what... I mean, I don't know what their education was, right? I imagine it's not the best. You're fighting vampires. Right. Or you think vampires are... But imagine being the guy who was like, that's not real. The Philippines guy that's like, that's not real. And then I was like, oh, shit. Like... That's crazy. Yeah. Or the guy who was like, told ya. That's crazy. Yeah. Just the Kurt Metzger who was like, told ya. What year was this? The 50s. Wow. It's the Oshwaga. Was it called the Oshwaga? Was the name of the vampires they were scared of? People are so nuts. They really are. But this is like, when you read this stuff out of the CIA and you're like, what are they doing now to make it look like this and really that. So the CIA combats Cy War Squad. So it says the Cy War Squad set up an ambush along the trail used by the Hux. When a Hux patrol came along the trail, the ambushers silently snatched the last man of the patrol. Their move unseen in the dark night. They punctured his neck with two holes, vampire fashion, held the body up by its heels, drained it of blood, and then put the corpse back on the trail. When the Hux returned looking for the missing man and found their bloodless comrade, every member of the patrol believed that the Oshwaga had got him, and that one of them would be next if they remained on that hill. When daylight came, the whole Hux squadron moved out of the vicinity. Wow. What a gangster move. The I.I. Train squadron. How many times did they do it? So sick. So, uh, what's the numbers of people that they did it to? Apparently only used once. To dislodge a squadron? So it was only one time that they did one guy? That was only one body. What a dope move. So sick. That's all you gotta do to let the fear spread. I love that shit. I would run off that fucking mountain. I'm not convinced vampires aren't real. I'm not convinced. I see what I saw. I know what I saw. Even if it's an animal. I think mathematically they can't exist. I think someone has actually done the numbers on this that mathematically vampires can't exist. Wind up killing everyone. Oh, interesting. It would be nothing but vampires. No, what are you talking about? I was gonna say someone else researched it and said that they might not have even worked because they didn't have a vampire like lore in the region. They had something else where they said that they fed on fetuses of pregnant women. Who's this hater, dork? Not. Fed on fetuses of pregnant woman. Oh. Yeah, but either way, it's a monster that drained the guy of its blood by biting him in the neck. But it's also like there's not vampires. Oh, there's just the American CIA even worse. I'd rather there be fucking vampires, dude. That description was from the CIA guys. If they even tried to do it, we're all so fucked. Which description was from the CIA guy? The one that you read was from Lansdale and Lansdale is this guy who... Yeah, that guy's a vampire. What are you talking about? So he's the ad exec, turned CIA operative who masterminded the plot. What a fucking genius move. I love shit like that. What a genius move. But there's something going on here right now that is that. Imagine being in a room doing coke and pitching that idea. Okay guys, I have an idea. Fucking vampires! You know that hole puncher that we used down here? I have an idea. And for everyone was like for a second. How do you snatch the guy and you have to keep him from yelling? So if he covers his mouth, he's got to be the last guy in the patrol. You have to snatch him so the guy right in front of him doesn't hear it. That's a lot of muffling. You got to keep him from screaming. You got to hold on to his body, keep him from fighting back. Do you think they put some like a needle with a... It doesn't sound like they did. Not yet. It sounds like they just held that guy and cut his fucking neck and then hung him up by his ankles. This is always my thing. If this is what we know, what do we not know? Oh, we don't know a lot. Anything. We don't know a lot. Especially when crazy stuff comes out. I'm like, if this is like Epstein-less, whatever. If this is what they told us, it's so bad. They did one vampire thing. That was the first time they ever did that. They had to practice a couple times. That's a lot of times. It didn't work at all. They had to practice blindfolding. They had to scream. They had to kill everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lansdale brags about an improvised bit of homemade voodoo he called the Eye of God. It was based on a World War II, cy-war tactic of learning the names of individual German officers and announcing on the battlefield over loudspeakers that they'd be the next to die if they didn't surrender. Holy shit. Lansdale's twist was to paint a cryptic symbol he called the Eye of God outside the home to suspected Huck sympathizers. The mysterious presence of these malevolent eyes the next morning had a sharply sobering effect, wrote Lansdale. That's crazy. Isn't it like Lansdale? Does stuff like that make you feel like... People are monsters. Like we're like fake news. News has just always been... Like maybe this is the realest, truest news we've ever had when you think about back then it was all just gossip. Yeah. Well, I think they definitely controlled the news way better back then and they can do things like the Gulf of Tonkin. You know, where they just decide that they're going to pretend that we got attacked so that we can go to war. And who knows how many people died because of that. And that's crazy that they did it and got away with it. Like that's a real tactic. I think this is the crazy part is that he was an ad-wiz for all these companies and then he volunteered to go to the army and they recognized his special talents. He's like, I'm not getting enough evil done working for Nabisco. And he's the pioneer of psychological. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Started psyops. This is fascinating because this is like I've worked, I sell jeans that cost $10 for 80 bucks. Like trust me, I know how to trick people. That's crazy. Like it's so fascinating when you're like people went from working in an ad agency to sell products to like convincing people vampires were real. It just fucking genius. Yeah. I mean, it's genius. I love that shit. Genius. What a great idea. And what's the genius thing now that we're being convinced of that's like. Oh, I bet they do some of the stuff just for fun to keep practicing. Remember like charcoal toothpaste was a thing. I'm like, what? I use that every day. Charcoal in your mouth. In my mouth. Works. Works. Because charcoal absorbs. It cleans your teeth. It's really good at cleaning your teeth. Where did we land on this root canals are bad thing? I don't know about that. I've been meaning to talk to my orthodontist about it. I haven't had a chance. I'm just trying to figure out. I know a bunch of people that are thinking about getting their root canals removed and getting a post put in. I'm like, is that better? You're going to get a fucking drill bit. But is it more about opening it and bacteria getting in and getting into your lining of your brain? I can't. I know me too. I'm like, dude, I've been sucking on coconut oil and doing black seed oil in my mouth. I'm just like, tell me what to do. I'll start eating charcoal if that's what needs to happen. So this is, I don't know. But like, yeah, what are the things that we're kind of like falling for right now or being scared of? Like I feel like there are a lot of tests like drill. Well, what are the things that are bothering us that we don't know about? Like the iridium girls. Like what about Wi-Fi? What if we find out that Wi-Fi is making us less and less in tune with our life or less in tune with our environment or dulls a certain part of your brain? I think with or without the like beams harming us, the phone is doing that anyway, right? Has there been any long-term studies on sci-fi or excuse me, cell phone, sci-fi cell phone signals on their interference with things other than bees? Because I know they do interfere with bees. Well, isn't that it was that confirmed because it was also could have been fertilizer and I think there's something there's a reason why they believe that it has an impact. What is the reason why they think cell phone signals have an impact on bees? I think that's not pseudoscience. I think that's I think there's a real reason for believing that. Something about how they navigate and you know what they do that those signals that are in the air with them could fuck them up. I don't understand. I am on I have a lot of Wi-Fi at my house and I have bees fucking ever. But yeah, that may be why. Yeah, yeah, maybe it's like it's like 11 when they turn on the sirens. When I was pregnant, I was listening to like whale sounds a lot. Oh, that's so crazy. Because we have a baby with you. It's like an amphibian. It's breathing fluid. That's smart. And then I was like, but what if these whales are like fighting? Like, I don't know what they're saying. They have to say it much racially. Yes, cell phone signals can affect bees causing behavioral changes like increased agitation and worker piping and alarm sound indicating disturbance. Those sensationalized claims linking them directly to mass colony collapse are not fully supported by science. Study show bees are sensitive to the electromagnetic fields from active phones disrupting their normal communication and potentially leading to disorientation. So here's the thing. Do we know if it affects us? Like we don't really know. I mean, there's a lot of people that oh, EMF man. And there's a lot of people like, oh, it's all bullshit. But what is the reality? Do we really know? And isn't all this stuff fairly recent? Yeah. I mean, there is Jamie. You can find this and I won't to corroborate it because I want to do the exact year. But their T-Mobile had put aside like a lot of money for possible lawsuits with all this stuff. So I did. I did. You know, I always have some weird side thing. When you made a documentary on violence. That's right. On Cal State Historical with Pete Berg, by the way. And I still want to go. I still want to go. It's in Florida. It's in Florida every June. When you want to go to see Cal State Historical? No. That would be so. That would be so sick. Because it's not trained fighters. It's just like butchers and. Oh, those guys are trained. Oh, I mean, they're not like professional. I mean, I don't know about that. Oh, really? Some of them look like they absolutely knew how to fight. Agreed. They train all year to do this, but they're not like. Is that sure? Are you sure? Like a me? They don't have any MMA fights or anything? Maybe? I don't know. I'm watching some of those guys. I'm like, that guy looks like he's fought. They're all training all year for this thing, but I think they have other jobs like professionally. It's kind of like. Right. OK. You know, but yeah, they all look like they're like. But not all of them. Just like a few guys look like ringers. Yeah. When I'm watching it, I'm watching these guys do get out. Some guys look like they belong there. And other guys look like that's an MMA fighter. That's a guy who's throwing leg kicks. And they say that crime goes down in the region to zero during that month. I mean, why am I opposed to that when I'm not opposed to MMA? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's I mean, it's probably just will annoy you to watch people so bad at this. Getting. No, no, it's not even that. It's just like, I worry that we're moving in a direction where violence is team violence. Team violence like that leads to fucking war. Like individual violence is a one on one person. Sure. Your skills against his skills, your mind against his mind, your will, how well you've prepared the discipline you showed in training, your IQ in terms of fighting IQ. That's a fascinating contest to me. But when you see teams of dudes running each other and fucking each other up like that, to me is like, what are you asking for? Okay. What are you getting people excited about? What fascinates me about it is what we were talking about earlier with the AI and everything of like knowing what humans need in order to stay, whether it's satiated, you know, bridled in some way of like, if AI takes away all the hard things or whatever, like with a whack-a-mole of what are people going to start doing, you know, when they don't have, like if AI is like, this is too crazy, you guys are fighting too much. It's like, but if we're born to kind of fight a need to extract. That's why we're going to have to integrate. Yeah, merge. Put that chip in your brain, Whitney. Look. We're all going to have it. I think I have worse things in my brain this way. Just like we're all saying like, oh, I don't want an email. Everybody has an email now. We've already merged with our phones. I mean, when I leave my phone, I feel it in my gut. 100%. I'm like, where is it? 100%. Like I, there's times when I'm like driving home and I'm like, I've completely atrophied. Like I don't even have peripheral vision. I don't have muscle memory of how to get home. Right. You forgot. You forgot how to navigate LA. Yeah. Like we are a unit. If you try to go through LA and you don't have a navigation system now, you're fucked. They call photos memories because your memories are in there. They're not in your head. It's like I look like memories. And I'm like, I forgot about that because it's in here. Right. You literally don't even remember. And then you see the picture and now you remember. Yeah. They do like a year ago today. I'm like, oh, right. I didn't log that. You ever have a friend tell you a story and you're like, I fucking forgot about that trip. Crazy. It's weird. You just didn't have it accessible. That's right. How did I delete that? You deleted it. Why did I delete it? You got no room. There's too many things. Especially a person like you who's constantly talking to people, constantly going to different places. Like it's like too much novel shit. It's getting into your head. That's right. Too many novel stories, novel conversations. Like, oh, wow. Oh, whoa. Did you know? Did you do? And it's like after a while, your heart drives like, bitch. We're bleeding out. Too much. Yeah. And I'm like, why do I remember every lyric to every R. Kelly song? But I cannot remember what happened last week. It's funny that- Bitch, I wish you would. Do you remember? America. Have you seen America? Oh, yeah. I'm going to bring you back to America. America. It doesn't even say like- Did you get your shots? She said, did you get your shots? Did you get your green card? Did you get your vaccine? It's just like, let's fill out your paper. You want to come to America with Robert or something? Yeah. Oh my God. It was fucking amazing. I can't. Amazing. We won't, we'll play this just for us. And we'll end this with that. Let me hear that part. That's the other thing. It's like extreme, extreme left people. They'll be like, America's full of fascist Nazis. But let everyone in. Come here. It's technically not a release song, but I don't know if he has a right to- Oh, it's like on YouTube. How can he have a right to? Yeah, no, no, no, no. Just- We'll wrap it up. Did you get your shots? What shots? I love you. At the Comedy Mothership all weekend sold out. Sorry, bitches. Here we go. Do you have your passport? I don't have to cut this off. Passport? Do you want to wrap it up? All right, we'll wrap it up. Now you can play it now. Bye, everybody. Bye, dear.