Episode #85 Featuring World Renown Glutathione Expert Dr. Nayan Patel! A full blown MASTERCLASS on EVERYTHING Glutathione!

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So because of this, I want to share them with the world. Use my code Dylan for an extra 10% off and start to treat your mind and body today with Tonum. All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli podcast live on set. And my guest today is an expert in a variety of ways, and we're going to touch base on all that. He's mainly known for his expansive work on glutathione, but there's so much more. And before I even get into that, I have been wanting this interview for such a long time, and he didn't even know it when I got connected with him. But my first convention that I went to and sat in on, me and my wife were waiting to see another speaker. It happened to walk in and my guest was speaking. And I was taking notes. I saved everything to Dropbox. Like, you don't know what I actually got into with you and how I've been looking forward to this. But I was starting off. It was kind of the beginning of my podcast journey at the time. And I was still kind of getting settled in. So when your people reached out to me, I said, I'm moving everything else around. Get this man on my show. And so I am so thankful that you came to see me. Just a little bit of background before we get rolling here. My guest is a sought-after pharmacist. He's a wellness expert. He's a thought leader. He's been working with physicians since 1997, custom-developing medications for their clients. He just came out with an amazing book that we're gonna get into and talk about, and it's called The Glutathione Revolution, Fight Disease, Slow Aging, and Increase Energy. he's globally regarded as the foremost go-to expert on absorbable forms of glutathione and he's a currently licensed compounding pharmacist he does everything but i am going to tell you you are going to learn so much and we are going to teach everybody today how to improve their quality of life in one of the greatest ways possible i can't say enough about my guest today Dr. Nayan Patel. Thank you so much for that. I had no idea that I had a little bit of impact in somebody else's life. You did. And, you know, I told you a little bit off camera, but I had always been looking for a lot of the things that you were doing scientifically with, which we're going to get into with your products and I want to discuss, but I had been kind of fascinated with that mechanism of action and how it works. But I also knowing and being told so often, well, you can't do that. You know how many times I heard you can't do that? You can't do that. And I'm, I'm, I'm the one that always says, yeah, you can, you just got to either find the right person, you or find the right way. So, you know, you've done amazing things. We're talking about it right now. And I said, you were a glutathione expert. So tell me first, why glutathione? Why did you decide to be an expert in that? What is so intriguing and so special? I wish there was some magic story, some Cinderella story behind that, but there is none, right? Because I was first hired to actually work on vitamin C, right? And one of the doctors came to me and said, hey, can you work on vitamin C? And he has a patent on liposome technology. This is back in the 90s, right? He comes to me, said, hey, can you make some liposome vitamin C? Because at that time, liposomes technology was only available in the pharmaceutical side. Right. So we made the first liposome vitamin C back in the late 90s. vitamin C. I made some CoQ10, some PQQ. And I told the doctor, I said, hey, can I also make some glutathione? Oh, don't bother. It just smells awful, tastes bad. Don't bother doing that. Plus, if you have vitamin C, we don't need glutathione. We'll be fine. Right? Okay. Again, these are the doctors talking. And I said, okay, I still made it. I still made it, right? it was so cost prohibitive to launch a product back in the 90s. I mean, we're talking about vitamin C available for $2 or $3 for a bottle of $100. Right. This would be costing you at least $80 to $90 for $100. So it was like so cost prohibitive back then, 25 plus years ago. I said, okay, if people pay any amount if the results are earth shattering. Right. Right? I mean, look at today. there are some medications. If he can cure Hep C, it's costing you $100,000. And people will pay $100,000 over three months if it cures Hep C, right? That's only about 90 pills. Jeez. Right? Think about it. It's insane. It is insane. If the results are earth-shattering, people will pay the money. Of course they will. And so I said, okay, I want to figure out Gluatine. And the reason about Gluatine was It was simple because there's not a single product in the world, not even one. In fact, you can combine all the antioxidants in the world, combine every one of them, and glutathione by itself can outperform every one of them combined. Really? And when I realized that potential of glutathione, I said, it's insane if I don't work on it. But at that time, my brain was not fully developing. I was still, I think I was still a Neanderthal, a caveman kind of a thing right at the time. It was not fully developed yet. I was just still, I was looking for a shortcut. I was looking for an easy way out. I said, hey, maybe I'll just make liposomes and figure out how to get it into the system because liposomes works for the pharmaceuticals. It would be easy for me, right? And I made it and I was not getting results I was expecting. I got results, but not everybody. I couldn't figure out why. I said, what's going on over here? I said, okay, forget about that. You know what the next best thing is? I'll just inject it straight into the bloodstream. How, I mean, once I get inside your bloodstream, my job is done, right? So I did the first injectable glutathione back in the first 2000, right? 2000, we made the injectable glutathione available to all the doctors in the United States. I said, hey, let's use it. I said, well, the half-life is too short. The results are not very good. So one of my doctor's friends from Vegas comes and says, hey, that's okay. My patients will be sleeping after having a heavy night of party. So I'll use them. So don't worry about it. So I got my first client in Vegas getting a whole bunch of gliotid. But I knew a short lip. I couldn't figure out why. And then I started digging into more detailed work. The research was done in 1991. There was a study done where it showed that the glutathione would be given by IV, everything would end up in the urine within 5 to 15 minutes. Yeah. And I says, okay, it still worked a little bit. How did it work? Then the researcher later found out that there was, after about 90 minutes to two hours later, they saw a rise of one of the amino acids in the bloodstream, which was cysteine. So the glutathione is made of three amino acids, glycine, glutamine, cysteine. Right. Cysteine got broken down and got into the bloodstream and later been used to make your own body's natural glutathione. So the body was already making the product using the components from the glutathione that was broken down. Makes sense. I said, okay, then why am I paying so much money? Yeah. Right? Why am I paying so much money? Yeah. Because as a pharmacist, the thing is, people don't realize, everybody thinks the pharmacist is making all their money because the drugs are so expensive. No. The drugs are expensive because of the pharmaceutical company. It has nothing to do with the pharmacist. Pharmacists are always looking for the best cost-effective therapy for every client. That's ingrained in our learnings. We're always looking for the best cost-effective treatments. If that means that you, if I could tell you, hey, if you can sleep better, you'll lose weight, I'm going to sleep better before I give you a GLP drug. Yeah, exactly. Right? We were talking earlier that, hey, by the way, when you lose fat, the way the body gets to the fat is through breathing, carbon dioxide. That's right. So literally, you can breathe out your fat. But if I tell you, if you just breathe properly, you lose weight. Oh, come on. Really, God? Tough sell. It's a tough sell. And people don't want to hear those kinds of things. I said, okay, then we'll give you some drugs, and then we'll tell you what to do afterwards. Anyway, so long story short, IVs were short-lived. The liposome, I could not figure out why it was not working. So I said, there has to be different technology. And every technology in the world existed that never enters the peptides, that the glutathione is a tripeptide. There's no technology in the world that existed at that point that can actually help peptides get into your system. and to me i said okay and why peptides why why am i dealing with peptides because in the early 2000s i was actually making all the hormones now we call them peptides today but at that time we were making all the hormones in the pharmacy because i have doctors come and say hey can you make me all these hormones for me i said well some of the hormones i can make some of the hormones i cannot make it right so we're making all the hormones the estrogen progesterone testosterone DHA, all those things were easy to make because those are all gonadal hormones, so they're easy to make. And then they go, oh, how about some of the pituitary hepatoletic hormones, like ACTA, GARH, LHRH, corticorelate, all those things. I said, well, those are a bit harder to make. And so I was working with a couple of researchers trying to figure out, I said, hey, how about we just do a research-based modules where you get some approvals and we'll do some research projects together and see if that works out. And what we found out is that those peptides or the hormones, the needs are very, very small if it's done correctly. And so there where my learnings came in first, I said the glutathione, if it's done correctly, our needs are actually very small. Yet we're injecting five grams, 10 grams of IV push in some Parkinson's patients. And that's absolutely barbaric, but that's what is necessary to get their symptoms under control. So I know this is a long story, But it just got to a point where I said, have to work together on this thing. About this time, I went to USC School of Pharmacy. I was in the research department over there. And a colleague of mine was the head of the USC Keck School of Medicine. And he was in the research department over there. And so I said, hey, would you mind quitting a job and coming working with me? I said, no. I said, what are you talking about quitting my job? You know, I'm a tenured employee. In two more years, I get full pension for the rest of my life. Yeah. So what you're telling me is that you took the job in two years from today. The answer is, yes, you took the job, but it was two years from today. And he goes, I didn't say that, but yes, that is exactly what it means. I said, great. So on your weekends, I'm going to do some homework for me. So I hired him on the spot, and we started working research. The research was good, but gluttile. I said let's work on Glutathide molecule I said well I work on Large protein molecules And we have this technology That we've been working on I said No no I want to Specify Glutathide So while he was Not even working for me We started working together Right And it took us some years And it took a lot of Candidate nights And we burned everything off We even burned One of our liophilizers Oh my god I was just I didn't have any money And I burned a $40,000 Liophilizer one time In my lab And I was so mad at myself. I said, how am I going to pay for this thing anymore? And it was just, but you know, like everything else, right? And when it comes to 2007, we had a molecule ready in my hands with a gliothione because guess what? No doctor, nobody was, was believing that this can be ever be created. Right? So my pharmacist brain thought, hey, let me get something just unique enough. so it's stable enough. Once it's stable enough, I can play with it to make it better for me. So I have the first stable molecule at room temperature water-based system, glutathione ready in my lab. Damn. Anyways. A couple terms you said so the audience knows because I know we know it, but liposome, the lyophilized machine, what are those things? Oh, okay. Absolutely. So liposome technology is, you know what they do is they take this molecule, which is very hard to absorb or very easy to get destroyed. And they put layers of this soy or the lecithin type layers on top of it. So layer after layers after layers. So when it goes to the stomach, the stomach kind of opens up the layers, like killing the onion, right? Opens up the layers. And by the time it comes to the last layer, hopefully it's passed through the intestines. It doesn't get broken down into the stomach acid. And intestines, it gets absorbed. So that's the premise of liposome technology. And it works pretty good for all those probably that get destroyed by the stomach acid. But glutathione, it doesn't get destroyed by the stomach acid. Well, it does get destroyed by the stomach acid too, but it also gets destroyed by the enzymes. Because when you eat, I'm assuming you eat meat. Oh, yeah. Right? You eat meat. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So let's say you eat a piece of steak. Does the steak muscle go straight to your muscle? I wish. No, it's just that. It's just, right? No, it does not, right? What it does, the body actually uses your own energy to break it down into what? Amino acids. Right. And the amino acids gets absorbed and you need 3,000 one amino acid chain coming together to make one muscle fiber, right? So all those amino acids have to come together to make the muscle fiber for you right And so the body is designed to do what To design to take all these proteins peptides, whatever you eat, break it down, absorb the amino acids and use the building blocks to make it for you. Now, I wish there's all these peptides that we can give you that doesn't get broken down and you can use up as is. But in reality, all the peptides will get broken down by the human body. And so even though gluothide is a natural peptide, the body makes it naturally. So you think that body will absorb it because it needs it. The body is not designed to take what it needs from outside sources. The body is designed to take the raw materials and make all the stuff you need from inside. And so when I realized that part, that was the game changer. So liposome technology was the technology that did not serve the purpose for glutathione. It served the purpose for all the other molecules, but not for glutathione. The lyophilization process is what you do is you create a product in a liquid-based system. And some of the liquid-based systems have a very short life because they get denatured. They get oxidized very, very fast. So what you do is you draw all the water out. It makes a powder form. And then what the doctors do is they add the water and inject it into your body instantaneously. That's what I was going to. When you get the bottle, just for everybody listening, you get your vial of peptide, and that's what you're doing then is creating that. So then they can clean it up with the bacteriostatic water. Boom. Injected, right? That's it. So we have the life as a machine. I have two of those machines in my lab. You can do that right on site. I was doing that on site to doing all this work. You know, again, I wanted to make sure that we create, again, it's all lab servers. We have it, but they're still expensive, right? If I get a pharmaceutical grade machine, they're like $2, $3 million for a small machine like that, right? But even the small machines with my paycheck, $40,000 is a lot of money back then, 25 years ago. And when I blew the machine up, I said, oh my God, I just like almost killed myself that day. I said, what am I going to do now? But the good thing is we are both researchers, scientists, and with my engineering background. Before I went to pharmacy school, this is one more story. Before I went to pharmacy school, I was in engineering school. Ah, okay. That makes sense. And so I said, hey, so between me and Dr. Trent, both of us, I said, I think we can fix this machine. No way. I love it. So we fixed the machine. It took us almost six months to fix the machine. I love that. Because we didn't have the money to do anything else. So we fixed the machine ourselves. We cleaned up everything, all the gaskets. Everything was all cleaned up from inside and everything. Oh, my gosh. It took us six months to do that process. But we did it. We did it ourselves. Do you have your own compounding pharmacy? Yes, I do. Okay. So if you can, can you kind of say like what it takes to like cost wise? Cause I have to imagine that's a tremendous cost to set up a compounding pharmacy, isn't it? With the machines you're talking about to have the right equipment. And then also, I mean, to just have the right knowledge based on how to do that. Is that difficult? I mean, cost wise and then hiring the right people, the time, and then what's like the approval process for that? because it just sounds intense. It is intense today. 45 years ago, there was no loss. And nobody knew, right? Nobody knew, right? It was a wild west kind of a deal. And so the costs were, the real cost was there because guess what? The industry was not making small equipments for labs, small labs. So it was just massive. Everything was massive equipments. So if I want a small blender for my lab, no, that's too small. We don't make a giant size blenders if you want those. No, I want a small one in my lab. Right. It wasn't meant for like a small set. It was not meant. So we had to go offshoot and get people to custom make the machines for us. See, it was a little expensive at that time, but we needed those machines to get those products out. These were like a step ahead of everybody then because there wasn't that many people doing these types of things. Was there or were there? In California, California was the first state to start issuing licenses for company pharmacies. And I think my license was either eight or nine or something like that. Wow. I was one of the very few, because I think they all applied. The hospitals applied for it. Some of the company pharmacies applied to it. So they all applied together. And so the order was whatever orders you get. So I think I was one of the very first few licenses in the state of California at that time. You know, it's, I see the journey today. And yes, it is very costly to make it. Making medication is an art. It's absolutely art. It is very costly because we have learned over the years that making medication is good if nothing happens to anybody. But if something happens to one person, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. So we are prepared to make medication 100% safe so nobody gets injured from this medication. And that takes a lot of repetition of procedures and processes to making sure that nothing gets out of line. So we have a full audit team, internal audit team that we have that we check on a monthly basis. And there's cross-contamination issues that can happen. So we make sure that you don't get somebody else's medication in your model. So all those things have to be adjusted and verified. My latest lab was built in 2010. And that lab was actually compliant with the laws that were just passed in 2019. Really? Yeah. The laws passed in 2019 and I was compliant for nine years before that. So the thing is, what that means is that we had the foresight of what it takes to make good medicine. Yeah. And so we never have to worry about those changes in the labs. That's so comforting because I got to tell you, I mean, I like regulation. I like monitoring. I like it difficult because I want to ensure what I'm putting in my body and then what I'm also telling others. Cause you know, for me, I try to help people and get them on the right path, put them on the right things. And my word goes a long way. So I want to have credibility like you and people like yourself on here that I know have gone through this rigorous process of being verified of people looking into. And then you, of course, you know, you have the right mentality, the right vision, the right desire with what you're doing, but you know, there's a lot of people, They see somebody that does something well and they try to replicate it with a bad premise behind it all and the bad motive. And so it's refreshing to hear, well, your knowledge base, but what you've gone through and what it's taking you to do what you do. And that's why I was wanting to see the process and what it takes because it's a testament to your hard work and your effort and your willingness to comply. That's right. Because Moto Pete, you know how this works. Anybody that does anything with business knows people are always looking for shortcuts. Yeah. And you take a shortcut with something like what you're doing. And like you said, it takes somebody's life or it could drastically affect it. Absolutely. And we've been in the business for over 27 plus years. In 27 years, we are very proud to say that not a single person has ever got injured with a medication. Love it. And we have made some crazy, crazy medications for all kinds of people. I mean, most of the United States, but we have people flying in from overseas, from Middle East and Europe and Asia, people flying to the United States as a medical tourism. And they have some very funky requests from the physicians. We made some really unique products in my lifetime and with zero injuries. And that we are very happy about that because we may not have made enough money doing that work because a lot of times the work we do doesn't pay off the time it takes to get it done. So we are still scraping for some money. But the thing is, we have been very blessed with the ability to serve so many people around the globe. That's awesome. Let me ask you this. I want to go back to something you said earlier that I find fascinating because you said you were doing the vitamin C and the other things. And you said when you brought up glutathione, they're like, oh, no, don't do that. Don't do that. why was there such a lack of understanding and knowledge of how important and how impactful glutathione was back then? And how did you find that before others? Like, why did you see that? Because for me, knowing what I know and how important it is, I mean, it is vital and we're going to get into that. But let me tell you how important glutathione is first. I think the audience needs to hear this part. Please. If they don't know this part, then they will understand why I went to this rabbit hole. So imagine you come to your house, you and your wife come walk in the house and you have kids and you have somebody living in your house. The house is absolutely a mess. There's trash everywhere. You go to the kitchen, the stove is completely filthy. Look at the dishes, it's not been done yet. Your counter is all messy. So, oh my God, let me go to my bedroom. You go back to the bed's not made yet. The clothes everywhere. The laundry hasn't been done yet. The bathroom's dirty. And he goes, my God, where do I begin? And then about the time the kids come, I would say, hey, dad, can you make some dinner for us? Well, I would love to make dinner for you. But who's going to clean up this mess first? So what you do is you do bare minimum, clean the stove, do some dishes and make some dinner. and then you serve the dinner and then you get what you do after that. Are you now, let's do some homework with the kids or do other things? No. I said, you do what you have to do. I got to clear this mess first. Right. Right? You, what you do, based on what you do, you're not being effective by cleaning your own house because you're a very good person that has a business entrepreneur. You have other things to do in life, but you're doing some work that doesn't require your attention. Right? Imagine you had a maid now in your house. You come home and everything is spotless. The kids are there. So dad, let's have dinner together. Let's cook together. Take some vegetables out. Hey, you chop the vegetables. I'll get the meat on the grill. And let's just work together and get all those things done. Now you have a different relationship with the kids. They say, hey, once the dinner's over, let's get into your, what book are you reading right now? Let's do some book clubbing right now. let's discuss what you just read and what you learned today. The connection is completely different. Right. Right? You're a different person now. Right? The thing is, the maid made all this happen to you. That's right. The maid gets zero glory. There's zero glory. So when I talk about this maid, the reason I'm taking this story is because glutathione does two things for us. It's an antioxidant, which is neutral. It's all the free radicals. So all the damage that can happen because of free radicals, so oxygen or nitrogen, gets neutralized immediately. And that happens every single second because you breathe in oxygen, it causes oxygen in species. You've got to neutralize those things, right? So we need to do that part. The second part is also using conjugations in your liver to detoxify all the chemicals you're exposed to. By the way, by the time you wake up in the morning, by the time you leave your house within an hour or two, you're exposed to at least 70 different chemicals that your liver has to detoxify. that's just in the morning. That's just in the morning. Crazy. Right? By the end of the day, you're exposing yourself to 300 different chemicals. Chemicals. Right. Right? That your body has to get rid of it every single day. And so, the glutathione conjugates and aids the liver in getting rid of this molecule. Now, glutathione doesn't get the glory because all it does is take the trash out. Yeah. Right? But without that, the body has zero time to repair and restore. If you get a cut on your leg, the body knows there's a cut, but the body is full of toxins and sugars and every single thing, how long does it take to heal the cut? It takes a long time. It's going to take a long time. If you're not healthy, yeah. Right? If you're a baby, like in a few days, it's completely healed. Right? So think about those kinds of things. So even the glutine may not be like this molecule that's going to heal your whole body, but what it's doing is actually unleashing your own body's potential to heal itself. Really? And to me, that is way more powerful because the thing is, you can see the cut from outside. Yeah. What happens if there's some disease from inside that you don't even know? The body knows where the problem is. By the time you do a blood test or scans or something and nothing shows up, I say, well, something's wrong with you still. The body knows what the problem is, but the body's too busy dealing with your junk from the everyday basis. So if you get rid of all the things out, the good made for your body, now the body is actually ready to what? To restore, repair your whole body. So would you say then that glutathione would be key in like anti-aging, so to speak? And then when we're talking about like senescent cells and spill out from cellular debris and oxidative stress, how would we talk? I really want to get your insight on cellular repair and how glutathione is so key in that asset. Because that's my wheelhouse. I want to hear what you have to say. So basically what you're saying is senescent cells and all the zombie cells and all those things, that's a defense system built into it because the body has gone out of control from oxidative stress. Yep. Right? Yep. So yes, you want to work on senescent cells, but that's like you're telling me, oh yeah, my house is dirty, but let me clean the yard first. I don't care about the yard. I don't care about the yard. Yeah, but if the yard is dirty, then it gives a wrong perception. It doesn't really matter, right? Yeah, but what's going on inside? But if the yard is not clean, the mosquitoes are coming in, the mosquitoes get inside the house. I said, I understand all those things out. But what you got to do is start from inside out completely. So what happens is that when the oxidative stress increases in your body, glutathione gets produced and neutralizes every single thing. Everything goes back to normal. Oxidat doubles now. When it doubles, the body will try to produce more glutathione. Sometimes it can, sometimes it cannot. Right? If you can produce that high amount because you have all the other nutrients in your body to do that portion, cell goes back to normal, everything goes back. Now it triples. If it triples, guess what happens now? Now there's internal damage to the cells. The cells are getting damaged and we call them the cellular damage is happening The cell you still survive but now it causing inflammatory cells Yeah that right That bad So what most people are doing is, oh, let's get the inflammation down. No, inflammation is good for you because it's telling this body that the inflammation is what signals between the pituitary that, hey, come fix me. Right. But if we get the inflammation down, who's going to fix the problem? We have no noise. We have no signal to go fix the problem. If there's no phone calls coming in that say, hey, come fix me, the body thinks that everything is good. And so all this senescent cells and zombie cells, I'm not saying we should not get rid of it because those cells are bad. We have to try to get rid of it. But don't get rid of it by anti-inflammatory markers. Get rid of it by cleaning the body and allowing your own human body to remove the debris out. And as you age, it's not just the senescent cells and the zombie cells we're talking about. As you age, we eat a lot of junk protein. I've noticed. Right? We eat a lot of junk protein. I've noticed it quite a bit. And so what happens, let's say, for example, to make a muscle fiber, you need 3,000 amino acids chains, different amino acids. So you have 2,500 amino acids, but your fibroids are missing. I would love to have this fibroids, but you know what? Since it's not there, I'll just stuff something in there. You want me a strong muscle, but it'll look like a muscle. It'll look bulky so you'll be, it'll look like a muscle but there's no strength built into that. Right? So that could happen as well. Or the proteins get misfolded and that could happen. So now you have all these junk proteins inside your body because the body says, I didn't make it correct because they got the wrong signals. Right. All these things, all these things need to be reversed but you got to start from cleaning the trash out. Without that, nothing actually works. And that's why glutathione is, if you only take one supplement in the whole wide world, it better be taking the trash out of glutathione. Because if you can do that part, you're literally unleashing your own human potential to completely eradicate all kinds of problems inside your body. Because if you think about it, oxidative stress is linked to each and every disease in the world. Every disease. And so, I'm not here to reverse every diseases but what I'm here is to I want to unleash the human potential to fight to have a fighting chance to deal with this because we knew when we went into the last pandemic right there was no drugs that was going to kill the virus the only people survived is who? The strong immune system that's right that's the only people that survived yes there's tens of thousands of people dying every single day in Europe right of the weak immune system yeah in America, all people dying because of weak immune system. People that had an intact immune system, they didn't die. So would you say glutathione is one of, or would you say it is the key to getting like the building foundation of our immune system? It is the key because it is not building the immune system. What it's doing is allowing the body to build its own immune system because the body will respond to all the invaders if the body has time to respond to it. And if the body is too busy dealing with all the chemicals, processing all those chemicals on a daily basis, then the time gets limited. I understand. So the better question is, which vitamin do you take? Right? Yeah. I take one pill. That's it. Right? Besides glutathione, I take one product besides glutathione. And the reason is because I take magnesium every single day because I have no time to ground myself. Magnesium is to discharge electrical charges from your body. Right. And it's my way of detoxing electrical charges. Yes. And so I need magnesium every single day. Even with that, magnesium sometimes is low. So I eat a banana on top of it every day as well. I love it. So that's what my personal regimen is. And I was down from 30 vitamins per day to one. In the last 14 years, my energy level has gone up high. My protein intake has not changed. I'm vegetarian, but my protein in my body is at all-time high. really because of just amino acids right my scuttle muscle has gone up i don't exercise as much right and so what has happened is the diet alone the body will start stacking your body with whatever the needs are going to be yeah and so when i realized that part i said oh my god i mean don't get me wrong if you exercise and do all the right things you will definitely build the muscles really fast and good muscles really fast. It's very necessary. But if you're a dad, if you have a job and you have kids and you're just doing the regular stuff like you and me, right? You have a job and you have kids and raising a family, all those things. We don't have time to work out eight hours a day every day. It gets tricky. It gets tricky, right? So what can I do to make sure that I can have the same potential of having longevity in life without killing myself in doing all the exercises. And I figured out that if I can just control what goes in my mouth, I can literally help my body. I preach that often and it's more on the diet side where I tell everybody, you know, you can't outwork a bad diet. You know, you just can't do it. I know everybody thinks you can, but you cannot. And what you're putting into your mouth is everything, really. I mean, you can train all day long. You can take all the supplements and every peptide and everything else under the sun. And it's not going to, it's what you do with how you eat and what you take and supplement, like what you're talking about. When I say supplements, I'm talking like performance enhancers and things that everybody thinks are going to make them the greatest thing on earth. That's not how it works. They'll look good though. Yeah, they'll look good on the surface. On the surface. But what's going on inside? It's a terrible thing. It's like the, not to go off topic, but it's like the calories in, calories out guys. Yeah, all calories are equal. Oh, really? Really? Show me the blood panels on the McDonald's eaters versus the lean protein and, you know, vegetables and eating right people. And then we'll talk and then tell me they're all equal. Exactly. You know, that's a totally different argument. So, okay, let's dig in a little bit more to the glutathione aspect of things. So like you said, it's important for like detoxification, oxidative stress. I wish I had some of my customers' testimonials over here because I had so many people calling me and say, hey, how come you don't say that gluten is good for sleeping? Oh my God, I sleep like a baby now. You know, I said, well, because the thing is, it doesn't affect everybody the same way. So here's the thing. Your brain is 2% of your total body, yet it consumes 20% of all the oxygen that you breathe in. And here's the thing. If you breathe less oxygen, because guess what? most people are shallow breathers. They don't extend the belly when they breathe. That means the diaphragm never comes down. If it doesn't come down, they just breathe on the top of the lungs, in and out, in and out, all day long. They're not going all the way down. And they're shallow breathers, so guess what? They don't have enough oxygen to begin with. And then with less oxygen, guess what? Now the brain gets everything first. The body doesn't get nothing. So the highest number of oxygen stress is in your brain. and people don't realize that, that needs to be neutralized. If you don't neutralize it correctly, and that most people, again, it's very hard to generalize everybody in the same category, but anxiety, sleep issues, it's some other factors as well that are involved with it. But if I can reduce oxygen to stress down, the body actually gets a chance to relax it and can think better. If you can think better, then guess what? I want you to think about one thing. If you can think better, to think what you do have versus what you don't have. If you just have an abundance mindset that, hey, everything I need, I have most of the things anyways. Right? If you make $50,000 a year versus $500,000 a year, if you have good habits at $50,000, you're going to have a good habit at $500,000 a year if you make it. If you have bad habits, if you cannot survive $50,000, guess what? You will not be able to survive $500,000 either. It doesn't really matter. It's a mindset. And so abundance mindsets need to kick in for everybody and practice daily gratitude, right? But the thing is, it's easier said than done because you can do that part. But if you're cranky, if you didn't sleep at night, if you have somebody else to stress in your brain, it's really hard to kick in that part. So we've been partnering with some NFL teams for blue fan concussion protocols and things like that. And what we have done is, one of the researchers in Pittsburgh have done some brain mapping studies, and they use the topical form of the gliothin that we make it, and he goes, oh, my God, this is the only gliothin that actually crosses blood-brain barrier. I have never known about that part. I said, it's like instantaneous, like the light bulb goes up in your brain, right? And so we don't know what all the ramifications at this point yet. It's very early on. But there's a potential that if we can do that part, that one day we'll be able to predict that, hey, if I can reduce the oxygen stress in your brain down, we can delay the onset of all kinds of neurological issues that exist today. Because today, there's not a single cure or a drug that can reverse any of the neurological disorders today. Yeah, not exactly. And so if the glutathione is what we body produces to deal with it, and now if it's technology to enter the blood-brain barrier, it's a potential long-term. And so anecdotally, I've been noticing something great because I've been using for a few years now myself, that my sleep patterns are good. I used the ring for like 30 days. I trashed it after the 30 days because my worst score was 90. That was my worst day. right? And every day was either 94, 95 or anything like that. So I don't wear anything on my body at all because whatever I measure has everything is just got improved so much right now. You already know. I already know. But here's the thing. I know you're going to ask me this question about testing for glutathione. I'll just tell the answer right now before you ask me this question. Because testing of glutathione, because I thought, hey, I'm doing glutathione every single day. my level should be very high. When I first got the product ready in 2007, I was giving the very high dose of Glowify because I said, hey, Glowify is inert completely, no problem, right? I gave some high doses and oh my God, I had so much bad reactions in people. The doctors are saying, hey, this thing is, we need to work on this one better because I get all kinds of Herxheimer reactions happening. People are just detoxing like crazy. He goes, okay, let's calm down. Let's figure it out. Let's figure it out. We're not sending the product yet. So we did some clinical trials. And what we found out was only 100 milligrams is all you need. So about four sprays, twice a day is all you need to sustain your whole body. So I've been using four sprays twice a day. Perfect. That's all you need. And so after six years of using the product, I did my blood test. And my results came back. My growth and levels are low. Low normal, but low. And I called the CEO of the company. I said, this is wrong. I'm a little annoyed with you right now because I know my gluten levels are good. And he goes, well, you know, I understand you believe in your product, but I also believe in my product. And my product is a machine. And machines, they just interpret, they don't analyze. They just tell you what it is. They don't, oh, this is nice, so let me just give him a high number. No, this is what it is. So let's dig into more detail. And what I found out was, If you take the glutathione, what your body needs, it's like, for example, Dylan, let's say you need $5,000 a month to survive. If I give you $5,000 every single month, how much money do you have left over in three months? Well, that's just it. Probably in the negative. Zero. Yeah. Because you need $5,000, I give you $5,000. But I would spend more. But what happens in five years? Yeah. Instead of zero amount of revenue? Right. Because whatever your needs are, it's been net. You're using control. Yeah. So if my needs are met on a daily basis, guess what? My levels never rises. But then it goes, but what you need to look at it is not the glitter time levels. It's not about how much money is left over. That's the wrong way. What did you have now? I give you $5,000 a month. You have a new car, a house. You have some new toys. What else? You have everything money can buy, right? So he opened my eyes for the very first time that, hey, don't look at glutathione levels. Look at all the things that glutathione can do to improve your body. And then he gave me a 72-page report, all my mitochondrial supports, all my cholesterols, my heart health, my liver. Oh, my God. It's like perfect. And when I saw those results and the CEO saw that results, you know what? This is, I need this. I need this. I need your product because I've never seen these results before. This is, this is insane. Like every different organ systems in a perfect, like a, like a young kid. And when I saw these results, so even though I said, you look at the wrong markers, don't look at glutathione because you only take what your body needs. Exactly. The body doesn't store anything extra. If it has to store, guess what? It has to work. So don't give anything. That's the more is always better concept. And then a lot of times it's actually going to have an adverse reaction. Like what you were saying, I mean, so many of us, I still try to not do it. But every once in a while you get that mentality. Like you said, you're taking 30 supplements. Well, this does this, this does this. Well, you start doing that and then you start having all these reactions and then you don't know what's causing it. What's causing it. Because you're taking so many different things. And not just supplements, even the pharmaceuticals. Yes. So I just had it happen. All the heart medication, they put me on one, two, three, four. and then I start getting weird heartbeats and palpitations think I'm dying and it's because that's too much going on yes you know and it's called stacking yeah everything is stacking it's they never gets off no it just keeps going on and on until something bad happens and then you start taking one and one off and one off and then you just don't want to take any because you're scared it's a it's a vigorous vigorous thing that goes on that we all go through I've done it because I coached people in bodybuilding so you can imagine what I've coached on that and seen in that aspect and then everybody will want to run 20 and 30 peptides because one's great let's add this well this can do this well this can do this and say brother I know it too much I you know well the thing is if you understand what peptides understand what peptides are they all signaling molecules Exactly And the signals are already there in your body You're just listening to it. So get rid of the noise. The body can listen to all the signals you have. Get rid of the noise. The noise is what? Pollution, food, alcohol, cigarettes. Get rid of all the stuff. When the noise goes away, the body listens through every signals you got. And when that happens, you can absolutely rebuild your body. I don't care if you're 30 years old or an 89 years old. And that's the reason I'll go to, the reason I said 89 years old, because my dad, there's a story about my dad in there. Because my dad had the same heart issue, a completely blocked artery, right? 100% blocked. And the doctor comes out and says, oh my God, I can't believe he survived. It's completely blocked. He should have been dead. The angio put a stent in there. And of course, slew of the medication comes out. And I said, Dad, you don't need any of this medication. Because you don't have cholesterol issue. You don't have heart issue. Yes, you have the clogged arteries. That's inflammation. But the medications they're giving you are something different that doesn't deal with inflammation. Doesn't deal with the root cause, deal with the symptoms. Right? I said, Dad, you don't need any of this medication. For the stent, I'm going to put you on a blood thinner for a few months because I don't want you to get clogged out out of me. So I'll put you on a blood thinner for three months. but other than that, no medications. No. I put him in glutathione. He was my patient number one. Really? Patient number one. He was 17 years old. He was a little chubby, not fat, little chubby, walks, diabetes for 35 plus years, arthritis for 30 plus years, blood pressure issues, but nothing, he was surviving, surviving. Like an average person, 78. My mom passed by 25 plus years ago, so he was single. I said, I'm just counting my days and things like that. But process happens. I said, okay. I put him on glutathione. I said, Dad, just take this one. And I had no idea what to do, right? I said, just take it because I think it might do good for you. And he had no other ideas, right? So I started giving him the glutathione. And about two and a half years later, the first thing I noticed was that his sugar was completely normal. Completely normal. His sugar levels were just perfect. So he started eating a whole bunch of carbs and sugars and things like that. I said, Dan, what are you doing? But anyways, I started seeing that he started walking six miles a day. Six miles a day, he was arthritis. Six miles a day walking with no pain. That happens. And then goes around. And by the time he's at the age of 84 now, he's traveling the countries now. He's traveling every single year, some country on his own, right? Backs and bags and leaves, right? 84 comes around. He gets his hip issues. And he goes to the car. and I say, oh, that's because your knees are bent. Fix your, get your knee replacement done. So I take him to a doctor and he convinced the doctor to give both the knee replacement at the same time. Two knee replacement at the age of 84. The doctor says, well, I can do it, but I mean, the recovery is going to be. Sound fun. Six months of recovery and I don't know. But then goes, I'll do whatever it takes, right? Okay. both the replacement done at the same time walked out of the hospital in a day and a half walked it out of course they would have been in a wheelchair but they walked to the car after that they did them for 30 days he was walking the whole block by his house whole block three months later he was in India traveling three months later he was in India traveling so now he's 85 now right but then he's he's traveling everywhere right this is not during the pandemic right He says, oh, no, no, no, just before he shuts down the whole country, just I'm going to leave. So he goes to India, then goes to Africa. We are from Zambia. Zambia goes to Kenya, and he has this letter from his doctor. He says, hey, I have to travel because of my condition at this age. I'm going to have to get my affairs in order. I don't know what he had in the letter, but he had something in the letter. So he just goes everywhere during the pandemic. he traveled literally like almost 13 different countries he went to Costa Rica with us for 10 days he went to the national parks Yosemite National Parks in California to do hiking over there he went to Australia, New Zealand he hiked the Glacier Mountain over there I mean talking about and then last year he was 89 years old in India traveling still traveling right now he's getting too barbaric eating street foods I said, Dad, what are you doing eating street foods? Come on, right? I said, just go to a nice restaurant. Just have it. Just go to a nice restaurant, man. I said, don't push it. Sure enough, he got loose bowel movement because he lives in America, so he got some bowel movements. He got a little bit of dehydration. But then in the shower, boom, falls down. Oh, I said, Dad, what the hell? But the thing is, he broke his skull. It was bleeding going on, but he calls up. I mean, he's still coherent. Carlos, everything was fine. Calls the hospital, comes, picks him up. Everything, everyone's right away, goes to the hospital. And he goes, oh my God, this is not fun, right? MRI comes out, there's internal bleeding going on. But he's talking to us. There's no loss of memory. Of course, who do I call? The chief neurosurgeon for NFL. He's a friend of mine, right? I say, Dr. Maroon. I say, please, my dad followed. I say, where is this? He's in India. I said, okay. what hospital give me some information. Okay, I will go in my chamber right now, but I'll call him back in two hours, right? Because he has to go to the chamber, because he does his chamber thing in the hyperbolic chamber. So he was in the chamber and within two hours, there was a neurosurgeon visiting my dad in India. Wow. And he calls me. I was, hey, I'm with your dad right now over here. I got a call that, hey, he's falled out. So I just want to check up on him. There's some internal bleeding going on, but he's very healthy. is, I mean, there's absolutely no brain damage whatsoever. None. It is absolutely insane. I've never seen this before. At the age of age 89, right? I said, if everything goes okay and if the bleeding stops in the next three or four days, in 10 days, he'll be able to travel back to America. So he hears that. My dad, of course, he said, I totally, I'll be fine. I said, don't worry. I said, dad, my brother's going to come with you. He's going to come right now and he's going to come picking up, right? I said, no, don't worry. I'll be fine. They start making all the phone calls. Everybody talks to everybody. I said, I fall down, but I'll be okay. It's about 1130 at nighttime, right? They'll go to sleep. I said, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Takes a selfie, you know, takes a selfie on the phone and he goes to sleep. And that was his last day. He didn't wake up again. the thing is from the age of 78 to 89 13 countries right he walked 6 miles a day he enjoyed his life he did all the traveling with arthritis for 30 plus years diabetes 2 diabetes for 30 plus years blood pressure issues angiocraft all these things no medication and he was not just surviving he was living his life And to me, that story gives me hope for everybody that's listening to today that no matter how old you are, your body will never give up on you. You will give up on yourself, but your body will never give up on you. So please, please do the right thing. Do the right thing about eating the right foods, sleeping properly, not drinking alcohol, not smoking, doing the glutathione if you have to. do all those things to give a fighting chance for body to literally heal itself. Adding life to your years, not years to your life, right? That's the key. That's the key. And I want to tell everybody to go check out your websites because you have a lot of information and I've studied it pretty thoroughly and talking about all the benefits of glutathione because there's more we didn't get to, but like you brought it up, insulin resistance, health, and so many other things that you've brought up about it. But I want to really drive home how important it is. I think that it gets talked about a hell of a lot more than it ever did, but I still don't think enough. Well, there's only one book of Glutathine, which is the Glutathine Revolution in the last 20 plus years. There's too many products. You know, here's the one thing that i want to tell people as well when you do the wrong thing when you take a wrong glutine product it's not that it's not working for you it's working a little bit for you but what's not working for you is that you you're losing your own time yeah which you'll never get back right which you'll never ever get back and that's the most important part for me is it's not that you that that you should try other products but what happens is that you're missing out on time and i i'm sorry that it took me 14 years to release a part to the public because i discovered 2007 and i did not release the product in 2021 yeah it took me 14 years to release the product but because i wanted to make sure that it was actually absolutely safe i want to make sure that it does what it's supposed to do now to make sure that you can take in perpetuity and still get the results after 10 years if you're taking the product. And once I got this data back in, I could not even wait for one day to release the product. I know as a middle of a pandemic, I released a product. I had no supplies coming in because the whole world was shut down. And I released a product, released a company during that time because I could not wait at that time. But now I tell people, please don't waste time on trying something else because you're just wasting time eventually you are going to end up using this bug for the rest of your life and i want to make sure that why waste time if you have it already available to that all the money in the world does not buy back time nobody i had lost a couple years long story and you can't get it back and i that's why i hold such a significant value on it now because i understand just how valuable every second is and i think people need to realize that and taking the proper steps to ensure that you're getting longer lifespan but living better and actually enjoying it because it's i mean what is it if you're not living it we need a couple more hours to get through what i need to go through so we're probably gonna have to do a part two so tell everybody where to get your products and you got a little offer for them too oh for my guests i want to use your name for sure for your audience because I want to honor you for having me over here on your podcast. Thank you. I appreciate it. If you go to AuroWellness.com, A-U-R-O-Wellness.com, just the code is Dylan on there, D-Y-L-A-N. At least you get some money off the product to try it out. At the same time, also check out our newest product that we are launching. I'm excited, man. I am so excited for that one. uh it's the same technology another tripeptide uh that's coming up i don't know if you have time to discuss all about detail about that's gonna be part two for sure yeah but uh one of my favorite that's ghk kcu uh it's it's i'm a skincare guy we'll get into that next time yeah i've got years upon years and so that is one of those compounds and i get into the big i like the healing protocols So like I like KPV and GHKCU and BPC and TB500, but the GHKCU specifically. It is absolutely amazing. When I first used for six weeks alone and when I saw my scan and the lady that did the scan, she was like a 25-year-old girl. He goes, let me see your scan. I said, do you need sunscreen, sunblock? I said, no. Perfect. Let me do your scan. Let me show you what's wrong with your scan, right? Yeah. And the scan comes out. The hell? What are you doing? What are you doing? right? She wants to buy the product for me. He launched the product. And when she saw that, oh my God, I've never seen a single dot of sun damage on my whole face. I'm bald, right? So I mean, it's everywhere, right? I'm in California. It's the sun all the time. And so, yeah, that is absolutely a game changer. And for your audience, I just want to make sure they understand that, hey, we are here to serve you, right? So my goal is to try the products and there is no harm, no foul. If you don't like the product for any reason, right, give me one star review or call my office, we'll do a full refund for you. Because I don't want people to feel like, oh, should I waste my time or not? No, there's no wasting time. And that's credibility. There's no wasting time. I don't care who you are. Everything needs to be done correctly. Well, when you come back, which I hope you do, I want to get into other aspects that we got to get into that I know you know. So I want to get into hormones, testosterone, TRT, peptides. We got to get into that. That's 27 years of my life. I know that. I know. And that's what I've been doing for 15. So I want this conversation with you badly. So, man, listen, thank you so much for coming out here. And thank you for waiting for me. answer that is half just so everybody knows i i showed up here and i normally bring a shirt ironed and i wear a tank top in the car and everything's ready so i don't get wrinkles and i get out of the car and i said to my wife holy shit i didn't bring my shirt so i'm sitting here and dr fatale in a in a suit i'm in here in a tank top from the gym so i blitzed in the car did one of those jerk moves and pass somebody going 100 miles an hour only to let them get up to the stop sign to me and pull up next to me and I'm just like not looking at him, you know, run into the store, buy a shirt and get right back over here. So thanks for putting up with that nonsense. I appreciate it. I love what you do, man. And I knew this was why I was looking forward to this interview, but you just over exceeded expectations, which were already high. So thank you. I appreciate it. I can't wait to talk to you more off camera and again on try your products. Get out, check out this man's book, follow him definitely try the product he has put years of his life into this with good reason so and i stand by him a trillion not a million a trillion percent so dr patel thank you again for your time i appreciate it and that concludes another episode everybody stay tuned for plenty more to come dylan gemelli signing off Mhm, Mhm. Mhm.