The Southern Poverty Law Center Is FINALLY Exposed | Guests: Kevin McCarthy & Rep. Chip Roy | 4/22/26

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They have literally taken the voice away from about 40% of Virginia. The SAVE Act, Iran, the ceasefire, and so much more. But we start with what happened yesterday with the Center for Poverty Law Center. The Southern Poverty Law Center. We'll get into that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's a burner launcher. Seems like somebody's always got to take a perfect day and ruin it, doesn't it? Go ahead, punk, make my day. You're enjoying yourself. You know, maybe it's a hike, a walk, you know, a day downtown, evening with your family, and then out of nowhere comes a person who's decided to bring chaos into everybody else's life. Aggressive, unpredictable, pushing too close, looking for trouble, whatever it is, that's the world in which we live now, and most days we're fine until the day that it isn't fine. That's what I want you to know about the Berna Launcher. It is a powerful, non-lethal self-defense tool that cools chaos. 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So, you know, if you want an absolutely neutral view on the Southern Poverty Law Center, you're going to have a hard time getting it from me, but I'm going to try to be as fair as I possibly can with these guys. They are a tool of the progressive engine, and I think so much more. So prosecutors say from 2014 through 2023, the Southern Poverty Law Center quietly siphoned over $3 million donor dollars off to the top That's your grandma's 20 bucks. You know, that's George Clooney's pledge straight into the pockets of Klansmen's neo-Nazis, Aryan Nation bikers, Unite the Right planners. Do you remember that one? And American Nazi affiliates. Now, why would you do that? One guy tied directly to the National Alliance supposedly got over a million dollars. Another deep in Charlottesville, that rally. He pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars. Hmm, that's weird. All the while, the SPLC's website and mailer's screen, help us dismantle white supremacy, and they are actually funding it. Now, how did that happen? Well, the same way these things always do, layer by layer of deception. Starting back in the 1980s, they built a covert network of field sources. some were already inside of the hate groups others infiltrated at the SPLC's direction they had to keep it hidden from the public and their donors I don't know where you find this in a 501c3's organization papers but supposedly they were protecting lives this is exactly what happened I swear to you these extreme right wing things that are supposedly everywhere I swear to you, it is probably nothing but paid off people from the SPLC and FBI informants. I mean, there are probably three people there that are actually real. Anyway, they went so far to create shell bank accounts under fake names. They fed false information to banks about who really controlled the money. This is a violation of everything. They routed payments through prepaid cards and cutouts. This is what terrorist organizations do. Donors thought they were funding lawsuits and exposés. Instead, according to the feds, they were bankrolling the very racist the SBLC was denouncing on the evening news. The indictment doesn't call it sloppy accounting. It calls it deliberate fraud. A lie to get the cash, hide where it really went, keep the grift alive for nearly a decade. SBLC says this was just intelligence work. It's dangerous, necessary, and we shared it with the FBI. No, they didn't. According to the DOJ and the FBI, they said, there's nothing telling us that you were doing this. DOJ said yesterday they weren't dismantling hate, they were manufacturing hate. That they paid the arsonists to keep the fire going so they could keep raising money to put the fire out. And on top of that, the DOJ said, never were we informed. Okay, I want to take this to a different place. Those are the facts. I want to take this to if the allegations are true. This fits directly into what we have seen all over the world in really ugly political systems. Controlled extremism. Let me explain how this works. This is the way it's happened all over the world. First, you help create or intensify the very danger you publicly are claiming to fight. If the indictments version is true, the machine would look like this. Money flows in quietly into radicals and to dangerous people, and it helps them become louder and more active. The public then sees a bigger threat. The organization points that threat out and makes more money, more moral authority, media defense, and political leverage. and it's just lather, rinse, repeat, lather, rinse, repeat. This is the self-licking ice cream cone. The danger feeds the institution, and that institution narrates the danger. Then you turn labels into weapons. In authoritarian systems, extremist, terrorist, foreign agent, these are all tags that are used to not just identify real threats, but to isolate opponents. You chill people's association. You cut off funding. You make the public afraid to defend the target. This is what Saul Alinsky talked about. Now, Reuters has reported that Russia, their Supreme Court, recently labeled memorial extremist. And that created a mechanism to prosecute the donors, the contributors, and people who share its materials. Belarus used extremist designations to do the same thing to media outlets and journalists. So you begin to isolate people, Saul Alinsky. Third, you build a climate where the map becomes territory. Once a group is publicly targeted as hateful or extremist or subversive, the press, the foundations, the bureaucracies can begin treating the label as proof. So you'll notice that's what the press does. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, this group is put the label in. This is where soft totalitarianism systems are born. You don't start with gulags. You start with reputational death, which kind of becomes a soft blacklist. You start funding the choke points and public fear. That's what the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing. Freedom House has warned that authoritarian systems exploit broad extremism and misinformation networks and frameworks to tighten the control over speech and civic space. Think of that. What are they saying? they're saying you control once you get this label out now you can control speech you can control people what they do in the public AI makes censorship and surveillance and disinformation easier and faster and cheaper remember what did the government do after it did all of this after the SPLC would label what were they doing the Biden administration was using them as justification to go to people and say, look, the SPLC says these are dangerous people. You have to censor them. Well, what is this beginning to sound like? This is beginning to sound like a color revolution. Usually, a color revolution, if it's not directed, it's a mass protest movement that arises because something is illegitimate. There's an election fraud or whatever. It's usually a disputed election. And then they use civil society networks and independent media and public mobilization to challenge whoever the president is or the prime minister. That's a color revolution. So what do they need? They need an unpopular. See if any of this is available here in America. They need an unpopular incumbent, a person that is running the government that is hated by at least half the people. They need an united opposition and enough independent media to spread the case that the vote was falsified or that this guy is an authoritarian. And you need to dismantle and make the other side defending him afraid and fractured. You also need the ability to mobilize large protests like no kings. So Moscow came to view this sequence as a series of things. First, you have to train the opposition networks. Then you have to delegitimize the government. You have to spark protests, replace the regime. That's how Moscow looks at it. I told you for forever, it is bottom-up, top-down, inside-out. This is how the Kremlin interprets these events. Whether that's accurate or not, that's the way they do it. I think it's accurate. So let me get back to the SPLC. If an institution can inflate or steer the public perception of extremism, then it can help manufacture a crisis atmosphere. They are not the key to color revolution. They are one layer of the color revolution. I believe this, my theory. Nothing is proven until proven in a court of law. But if you can create that crisis atmosphere, it does several things at once. It delegitimizes the political opponents. It pressures media to conform. It justifies surveillance and deplatforming. It scares donors and churches and business and people away from the, quote, wrong side. And it creates moral permission for extraordinary countermeasures. How many times have you heard people try to kill somebody? Well, let's use Charlie Kirk. How many people say it was justified? That's an extreme position, one that Americans have never held, never. except in our very worst times. Now you have people justifying violence. It's justified. Why? Because somebody has ratcheted up the labels. In an environment like we have right now, they're priming the ground for street mobilization, government action, corporate pressure, selective law enforcement. It's all pushing in the same direction. Now, that's not a revolution. That's the precondition for a revolution. That's legitimacy for war. If this is true, an organization says these people are dangerous, that feeds or expands those kinds of people. those people continue to do dangerous things, and the dangerous things that they're doing is amplified, and it's made to look much, much bigger. Then the press reports the danger. Then the public sees that report. They label, and they say, oh, my gosh, it's everywhere. Then, because the people are rising up saying somebody's got to do something, the institutions demand crack down. the same organization that was pointing out the danger and funding the danger, says you've got to do something about it. They're elevated as the trusted interpreter of the threat because they're the ones who found it. This is exactly how societies go from free debate into managed fear. And once fear becomes the currency, totalitarian habits follow fast. Look at what's happening right now in Virginia. Look at what they did in Virginia yesterday. What do they do? And everybody who voted this way, I saw the people coming out. People who were coming out of the voting booth and voted to take away the voice of 40% of Virginia. 40% all said the same thing. We have to stop Donald Trump. That's fear pushing you into totalitarianism. And you don't even know it. You label the enemy. You isolate the enemy. You criminalize contact with the enemy. You pressure media, financial channels. You make ordinary citizens afraid of being seen near the enemy. This is what happens every single time. Is that what the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing? Well, I could sure make the case. the last people that are pointed to and say these people are dangerous are the people who have been pointing out the danger themselves I will tell you that anybody who gave to the Southern Poverty Law Center they are not going to read this the same way they are going to say this is this totalitarian state coming after and trying to silence this group that has done well and done good things for so long. We have to support them even more. Because for a good portion of the country, they're in too deep. And the media will never, ever disassociate themselves from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Never. 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If the indictment is true, the comparison here is not that the SPLC ran a full-blown color revolution. the comparison is that the conduct the alleged conduct resembles one important piece of that machinery that makes regime destabilization politics possible the managed production of extremism followed by moral framing media amplification institutional isolation of targets the censoring of voices pushed by the government that's the family of tactics that authoritarian and hybrid regimes use when they want to reorganize public life without sending tanks. And that is the goal. If Americans knew history, that is the goal of progressivism. Have revolution without the tanks. That's what's happening. I hope none of this is true about, you know, the center for, or I mean, the Southern Poverty Law Center. But I'm sorry, you'd have a hard time convincing me I'm not going to be on the jury. Because you'd have a hard time. I have a very long, long relationship with them. I think we looked it up yesterday. Somebody on the staff looked it up and said, you know they've reported that you're an extremist like 175 times. Oh, they've accused me of inspiring murder and everything else. They're liars. They are liars. And they are part of the problem. And I'm glad to see that finally we're getting serious about shutting people like this down and exposing the tactics that they use. Notice Charlottesville. What was it that Joe Biden said was his reason for becoming president? I wasn't going to run a lie. I wasn't going to run until Charlottesville. And then I realized I've got to run against this monster. What was the lie of Charlottesville? There are good people on both sides. That's not what he said. Who was it that was helping fund Charlottesville, we find out now? The Southern Poverty Law Center. Who was it that was pushing the narrative after Charlottesville? The Southern Poverty Law Center. This is what is going on. Watch this story. If they are not, if these are true, if they have the facts to back it up, If they do not go to jail and aren't permanently shut down, you don't have a chance of saving your country. All right, we're going to Washington next. We're going to talk about FISA and also the vote next. First, let me tell you about rapid radios. You know, rapid radio sounds like something only movie superheroes had. You press a button, you talk instantly. Somebody miles away on the other side of the country can hear you clear as day. No drop calls. No, can you hear me now? So, you know, no dialing, no digging through menus or anything like that. Something important is happening. You know, Space Ghost, I need you now. Well, that is available right now. Rapid radios, ready to use right out of the box. They work nationwide. They let you connect with family or friends instantly. They are perfect for the times when cell phones are slow, distracting, or just the wrong tool for the job. 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Let me talk to Chip Roy about a couple of things that are going on in Congress right now. And you can check him out on his website, roy.house.gov, or ChipRoyTX. You can follow him on Twitter, ChipRoyTX. Okay, Chip, let me start. There's so many things to talk to you about. Let me start with FISA, okay? FISA is they're looking to renew FISA. And of course, we're doing it in the middle of a war where you're going to be able to make this case a lot easier. We got people here. You said you voted for a 10 day extension, but you said that you will block a clean reauthorization without significant reform. What reform do you want? well glenn remember that uh this situation was uh created because of the abuses by the fbi and by our intelligence state in using fisa against the american people and your audience is very informed so they know this um you know they targeted president trump they used a different section in 702 but nevertheless they used 702 to go after the american people we have the arctic frost abuses where they went after members of Congress, including me. I had my records targeted, and I didn't even know until three years later, which is just absolutely insane. And so we're just looking for continued reforms. Now, two years ago, we had to hold this all up, same game of chicken, where we said, guys, we're not going to give you a blank reauthorization, and we need reforms. And we got some pretty good reforms. Big step forward. We went through the Judiciary Committee. We put members of Congress inside the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Courts. We had a significant increase in reporting. We had more standards on what they need to do and lots of other things we put in that bill that made a real big difference. And we've seen fewer abuses. The data we're getting is encouraging. It's trending. But we didn't get a warrant. We didn't get even something that would tighten in and make clear that if you're going in and you're finding this information, this warrantless surveillance of the American people because you've got this authority under 72 to target foreigners, which we all support going after bad guys using it, right, that are foreign nationals. But when you're talking about American citizens, we want to have every protection possible because the government abuses its authority. So we want to see greater empowerment of being able to have more review of what's happening in the foreign intelligence surveillance courts. We want to have greater penalties, much different penalties for abuses within the intelligence community and the FBI. And we want to have greater warrant protection. That is, you cannot use the stuff you find to embark on a criminal investigation without getting a full warrant on an American citizen. Those are the kinds of things that we're debating and arguing over and the kinds of reforms we want to see in moving forward. As I told the president last week directly, Mr. President, we trust you. We trust this administration to do the right thing. But, you know, we've got to protect American citizens for three years from now, eight years from now, 20 years from now. Yeah, this is that's the whole point of the Bill of Rights. I mean, it was our founders that put the Bill of Rights together, and they said, you can trust us. Don't trust anybody else. You shouldn't even really trust us. But we don't trust the government, and we're the ones running the government. So we're saying government should have these handcuffs. You know, you talk about having a penalty, a stiffer penalty. I'm going to make a case later today. I'm staying on for an extra half hour because I want to make a strong case for the death penalty. You violate FISA. It is our most sacred rights. It's our bill of rights. You are violating the most sacred. And if you want to say, we have to have this, we have to have this, we must do it. Good. Then if you do it and you do what that FBI guy did to Carter Page, you knowingly falsify information, you lie to a judge. It should be the stiffest penalty our government can hand out. It should be you're violating the sacred right and we have trusted you and said we don't trust you and you've begged for this right. If you knowingly do that, I think you should get the death penalty, quite honestly, or at least life in Guantanamo Bay. No questions asked. You will never stop the abuse unless the punishment is breathtaking and damn near automatic. well Glenn this is one of the things last week that we were pushing for I won't say that we're pushing directly for the death penalty but but your sentiment is exactly right we had massive penalties massive imprisonment massive fines and like our question was how are you going to police it and we need to have greater triggers for being able to monitor and have oversight and if you marry all of that up then we'll get greater comfort that our intelligence community is not being used against us and against the American people but you're right you have to have a stiff penalty So, look, as this debate unfolds, our position is you're not going to get a clean reauthorization. We're going to oppose that. And we're telling the Speaker and Leader Thune and the White House, guys, we're open to ways to move forward. I know you need this authority. We're dealing with Iran and all these issues. But we're going to continue to protect the American people. So it's a non-starter that it not have significant reforms. We're open to what those look like and working with the White House and leadership. I'll tell you, Chip, it's not enough to just have transparency. Americans are starting to be transparent on a lot of stuff that happened, and nobody gets punished. You must have stiff, damn near as close to with fair trial, damn near automatic. It's got to be an electric fence. It has to be an electric fence. Okay. Yeah, well, Glenn, I will note that, and I don't want to change topics on you, but this indictments for the Southern Poverty Law Center, I mean, a lot of us yesterday were saying, And finally, you know, I held a hearing on this topic in December. I know. Brought in Turning Point USA. Brought in folks from the Family Research Council, Tony Perkins, talking about what we knew was happening with the Southern Poverty Law Center, Antifa, all these organizations, well organized. We called for a special select committee last fall. We meaning the Freedom Caucus and conservatives. Finally, we're seeing movement. We need more, more hearings, more exposure, and then more action by the Department of Justice to indict these people that we know are targeting us. I was glad to see that this actually came from the Department of Justice and our new acting attorney general yesterday because more hearings mean nothing You know this correct more hearing No I agree Absolutely nothing My mean absolutely nothing My point of that though Glenn is from a congressional standpoint our job is to expose and then get the Department of Justice. You guys go indict. You guys go take action and have penalties. And that's all I want is more action, right? Yes, I know. I want to have more. Yeah, me too. Okay, so let me – I've got like three things to cover with you here in just a few minutes. So let me go through with the Save America Act. I think it was Anna Paulina Luna yesterday said tie it to Pfizer reauthorization because you're never going to get it any other way. Tie it to that. Possibility. What do you think of that idea? Well, I know that it would meet resistance in the Senate. I've talked to on about this. We agree. You know, I think there might be some ways we could get three quarters or 80 percent of the Save America Act. I'm obviously the author, so I know the bill well. I think we can get voter ID and I think we can get the voter roll cleanup if we added it to something that's a moving vehicle like FISA. I think we ought to consider that. I talked to the speaker about that last night. You know, he's got to weigh the options of what he can move. But we need to leverage whatever moving vehicles are, because as we saw in Virginia last night, we're going to lose it all if we don't act. By the way, the Senate is sitting around going, oh, we've got to save the filibuster. You and I as conservatives, we want to stop bad legislation. I appreciate the sentiment. But you guys are going to lose the republic because Democrats are going to do what they did in Virginia last night. They're going to come in. They're going to make D.C. a state. They're going to pack the court while you guys sit around fiddling while America burns. So I think of it. I and I haven't decided this is absolutely right yet, Chip. So talk me down from the street when it comes to the filibuster. I want the standing filibuster. I want the traditional filibuster. Well, if you're not going to do that, I don't want the filibuster that was made up in the 1970s. Right. OK. So what is the problem with nuking the filibuster if it's that filibuster? I want the standing filibuster. But I'm to the point where I'm like, nuke the damn thing. Glenn, you and I are singing from the same page in the panel. Last October, I raised this point. I said, guys, I want to defend the traditional filibuster as a cooling saucer. But if we have to nuke it, nuke it. If you guys aren't going to get out of the way and maintain this fake filibuster, or as Mike Lee calls it, zombie filibuster of 60 votes. There's nothing in the Constitution saying 60 votes. There's no requirement that we have a default 60-vote position. And by the way, that's also harming Congress. We can't flex muscle as Congress against an executive branch. I'm not talking about President Trump. But in terms of the balance of powers, Congress can't do its job while we're hiding behind a 60-vote threshold in the Senate. So I agree. In fact, I've told some senators who won't move. I said, guys, if you want to save any any vestige of this of the filibuster, you better save the talking filibuster. Right. Actually, you got to go work for a filibuster. And by the way, here's another idea. Why not on this shutdown of DHS? Why don't Senate Republicans say, look, if you have a shutdown and we want to we have a bill for a continuing resolution, that's it. Then it's 51 votes. What's wrong with that? You want to have a sort of, you know, shutdown prevention act. If a majority of the Senate wants to fund government at current levels, great. You can do that at 51 votes. Why don't we do that instead of right now? We're going, oh, I guess we got to go past something because the Democrats won't let us fund Border Patrol and ICE. It's ridiculous. Let me see. Let me go here. You introduced on Monday, reintroduced the Mom Donnie Act. What is the Mom Donnie Act? why did you do it? Why did you name it after Mamdani? Well, look, I think Mamdani is emblematic of one of the major problems we have in this country. We've been importing people who do not share our values and then allowing them to not only ascend to, you know, some positions in corporate America, but now increasingly in leadership positions, in this case, mayor of our largest city. Look, under our current laws, we are able to reject people who are affiliated with the Communist Party. The United States Supreme Court has upheld that as far back as 1952, a Supreme Court opinion. They said, yeah, you can do that. We're a sovereign nation. We can choose who comes in and who comes out. And we can denaturalize and remove people who are carrying out activities that are undermining the United States if you're a naturalized person or if you're on a visa or whatever. I think we ought to expand the zone of how we define that, not just, quote, Communist Party. But let's be broader in terms of Marxism, in terms of what we're dealing with, the Islamist movement, in terms of the Chinese Communist Party. Let's lay that out and say, look, if you're affiliated with these entities and you're anti-American and you're undermining Western civilization, we can reject you. And if you came here on a visa or if you've been naturalized, we can denaturalize you and send you home. Because we're importing people who want to destroy our way of life. You and I will die on the hill, as you guys, you and I have talked about on your show before, in defense of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. People saying, ship, this is unconstitutional and it's against the First Amendment. No. What I'm saying is if we invite you here, this is our country. We built this country on Judeo-Christian principles. We built this country on the Constitution of Western civilization. If we invite you here, you've got to tell us who you are. We need to know who you are. And if you're affiliated with entities or if you're espousing beliefs or if you're promoting Sharia law or things that are inconsistent with our way of life, then we should not import you. And by the way, that's why you should include. Nazism, too. Fascism, Nazism. So it doesn't look like it's one side, because who's going to argue again? You want to import Nazis? You want to import and naturalize Nazis who were lying to you about Nazis, and then when they get here, they start affiliating with all the Nazis here? No, you want them out. You want them out. It's a fair point, and I'm happy to add that to the list. I mean, again, it's so funny in this town. You introduce a bill, and they go, well, that's the bill. I said, wait a minute. Let's put it in committee. We'll amend it. We'll make it better. If I did something that's bad, we can pull it out. If we want to add something, that's great. The whole prompt is a concept. Why are we importing people who hate us? Why are we importing people who don't want to preserve the America we love? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. None. It's a suicide. It becomes a suicide pack if we don't. 100%. Chip, I appreciate it. Where do people go to find out about your campaign? Chiproy.com. Thanks, Glenn. I was obviously running for attorney general. Appreciate it. Chiproy.com. May 26th is the runoff date. And, you know, we're running hard and I'm burning both ends of the candle doing my day job. I've tried. I've missed, I think, maybe two votes in this whole process. They were inconsequential. I'm doing all my all I can to keep doing my job that I promised to my constituents while running for Texas attorney general. We've got to save Texas, Glenn. I know we've got to save Texas. I will tell you, we are closer than people understand. We are so close to losing Texas. And if we lose Texas, the republic is over. There is no saving it without Texas. It will become California, New York, and then it's over. It's over. You never win another election. What we saw unfold in Virginia last night, that's what the Democrats are going to do, and they want to do it to Texas. And now our last hope is that the Virginia Supreme Court throws it out. Do they have a case? Because that's Cuccinelli. I think they have a very strong case, but I don't know the court that well. But I mean, the lawyers I talked to in Richmond and Virginia, they tell me, look, I mean, the wording of the of the vote, right, of the referendum was terrible. So that's procedurally wrong. They had some other procedural problems that I think the Virginia Supreme Court could toss it out on in terms of how they set up the vote and the rules that you have to do it between, you know, an intervening election and other stuff. I think there's strong arguments, but I don't know how strong the court will be. You know how courts are. So, look, it's our last hope now. The Virginia Supreme Court striking it down. Chip, thank you very much. 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I just want my stuff right now. You don't survive as a nation if you do that. And we are starting to see this happen in Canada. Tomorrow I'm doing a monologue on Canada that I really want you to hear, because it is our future if we are not careful. Canada is now killing their own people at just a record clip through medical assistance in dying. And they're doing it because they can't afford medicine anymore. They just can't afford it. Why? Why? Because they've imported all of these people. Why did they import these people? Because Canada wasn't a growing economy, so we have to have more people. But that's only making it worse, because now you can't afford housing. You can't afford medicine. People have lost the faith that they can actually get ahead, and the next generation is going to do better. We've always had that in the West. My question is, are there things that we can hold on to and believe in? Are there things that we can do? Because once we lose faith, it is over. And I want to show you how bad things are in Canada. I'm going to start actually at the ending today. I'm going to give you what's causing all of it tomorrow. But I want to show you what's happening with their happiness. Canadians have always loved their country. And they've always, you know, they've been happy. Generally happy. We've been like, work, work, work, work, work. and they've had a better handle, I think, in some ways on how to live your life, and they've always been happy, and they've been happy with their health care and their country and everything else. They are not happy right now. In fact, when you look at the happiness index, they have fallen faster than any other country, and it is stark. So I want to get a handle on that. Daniel Foch joins me here in just a second. First, let me tell you about American financing. Most people think debt is just about numbers, interest rates, payments, balances, due dates. 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And the more interesting part is if you look at Canada, you know, from a generational perspective, it's young people are actually experiencing an even more severe drop so when you know we rank 26 in the world happiness index right behind the u.s for the first time since the index has started and but if you if you look at that from the uh the perspective of young people young people are like 71st in the world what and it's and it's a lot of it is because the way our economy is structured, it really makes it difficult for young people to be successful. And they've sort of lost hope with their ability to participate in the economy, to be able to afford things, to be able to get ahead in life and achieve a quality of life comparable to what their parents had when they were growing up. So I wanted to have you on. If you are listening to Daniel, I just want you to see our future. Canada is ahead of us and what is happening in Canada is happening here and it's why I speak about several things on this program trying to show you what's happening in Canada to relate it to here let's just talk housing first because that's your expertise we are living in America and it is increasingly difficult to get a house especially young people are losing their faith that they can ever change their status they can ever buy a house and get ahead like their parents did. And part of that is because the idea of the Great Reset was to bring people in from different countries because our populations were declining. We needed more people to make more money, but that didn't help anything. Can you explain what happened in Canada? Yeah. So in Canada, we had a variety of factors that contributed to a very fast and severe inflation and housing costs. So we had our from a zoning perspective and a I mean, we have a lot of like land use policies that are sort of like ESG derivatives. So there's a thing called the Greenbelt in the greater Toronto area where, you know, sort of like imagined areas where you can't develop because of, you know, the environment and agricultural land and other factors. And then you also have record population growth. So we had record population growth in 2022, 2023, back to back. Our population grew by like 1.2 million people, which is like 4% of the population, depending on how you measured it. And so that obviously contributed a lot to excess demand. And the Bank of Canada even put out a chart that showed a correlation between the magnitude of population growth alongside rent inflation. And they basically correlated one to one. So both your rent and your home values went up because there was excess demand for housing. and at the same time you know young people were sort of coming of age millennials wanted to move out of the city we had the pandemic we had some of the most aggressive lockdowns in the world and then so there was a lot of people were suburbanizing and there was just not enough houses we couldn't build quickly enough our economy ironically is is uh you know massively exposed to housing so we have a huge concentration of our GDP is in residential investment, yet we're not very efficient at building it. And so this ultimately led to young people basically being priced out of the market, but older people who already own homes and have paid them off and whatever benefiting from the inflation that was taking place. And so now we have, you know, the kind of flip side of that is you also have a massive exposure of the wealth or net worth of your older cohort that depends on this home equity to fund their retirement. And so the government sort of trapped, it's like, do we want to let homes lose their value and, you know, and risk cutting into that nest egg of the older generation? Because then you have to pay for the older generation. Who's going to take care of them? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And I do think like if you look at Europe as an example, because it seems Canada is very much headed in that direction, you know, they have some of the largest unfunded pension liabilities in the world. Like if I were to really evaluate if I'm a policymaker, why would I risk doing, you know, immigration at this level? and it makes you wonder if we're really trying to pad that younger generation to make it more affordable for us to have that transition into the largest cohort of, and this is the same thing in the U.S., the largest cohort of the older generation retiring that we've ever seen in history, are we going to be able to afford it? But wouldn't that make sense if you were not bringing in populations? If you were bringing in populations that were more like Canada, understood and not bringing in such large populations like we are here that is relying on the government to pay for it. Yeah, well, I think this is one of the big issues with Canada's system. And, you know, there's different layers of loopholes that have been exploited in Canada's immigration system that allowed this to sort of happen. And a lot of them have been closed, but the population growth just moves to the next loopholes. So the loophole that we're on right now is asylum and refugee status. The one that they were on before was the idea that basically you could become an international student and you could pay to move to Canada, get a degree and become a permanent resident. And that was the path that was being sold to a lot of people that's since been closed from a loophole basis. And they've made an effort to make that policy more appropriate. The problem is that there are other policies downstream from it that haven't been closed. And so the demand of people moving just basically shifts to now. You know, now we have this. I did a video on my YouTube with somebody from the C.D. Howell Institute who analyzed Canada's asylum system. And, you know, there's huge issues forming in that now. Well, you also didn't you just open up a new path for citizenship and saying if you come and you're in the Canadian army now, we'll give you citizenship. I'm not sure, but I can I can look into that one for sure. Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure it happened in the last couple of weeks. Tell me what's happening with the ESG stuff. I think over in British Columbia, there was a couple of weeks ago where things got really bad because the 30 by 30 stuff is kicking in. Do you know anything about that? I don't. But in BC, the stuff that interests me around land use is we have a lot of this. So BC was the only sub-sovereign state or a province in Canada that actually took the United Nations under a framework and made it provincial law. And it's really created this huge mess around Indigenous land claims on land in British Columbia. So, you know, you basically have like the big portion of the city of Vancouver, as an example, and like large swaths of lands, like hundreds or thousands of acres that indigenous groups are starting land claims on. And, you know, I've spoken to the two top lawyers on this matter in the country, and they both mentioned that basically this is a serious threat to, you know, property rights in that market. So they're being appealed, and this will ultimately go to the provincial court and likely federal court, but it is, depending on how the laws are interpreted by our province and federal government, this could set a pretty dangerous precedent for that to roll across the remainder of Canada. So that's sort of becoming a mess in regards to property rights, at least on the West Coast right now in Canada. Are Canadians starting to get and see that the policies of their government are just killing them? yeah it's interesting in canada like i i would say that you know both of our um our political parties are relatively liberal um from probably an economic and social perspective and and i think that um the challenge with this is that it seems like the conservative movement in canada has sort of abandoned the you know the core tenet of individual responsibility right that we are ultimately personally accountable for our circumstances and and um and so i think they do realize this um you know a lot of canadians but they they don't realize that there's an element of control or um impact that they can have as voters as you know members of society and and so you saw that like in our last election in april of last year this a lot of complaining from from both sides, but nobody really, and young people, especially, right? Like young people are saying, you know, this isn't what we want. We want to change. But then when you look at voter turnout, baby boomers decided and overwhelmingly liberal voters decided the outcome of Canada's election. Whereas young people have so much, you know, on social media and on the internet are so active, yet they barely saw an improvement in voter turnout. And so, you know, this is where, you know, democracy becomes a bit of a headwind. If your voting population communicates and wants to participate in politics online and on social media, that's great. But if they don't show up to vote and do something about it, you kind of end up with no change, right? You get what you vote for. And if you vote for nothing, you get nothing. Daniel, thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for bringing us up to speed. We'll talk again. The happiness index is, what is going on in Canada right now, is showing up first because people can't afford daily life. That's what's happening. And look at what he just said. Young people are complaining, but they're not getting involved. That's going to be the death of all of Western countries because they're being taught to hate the country. They're giving good reason to see that it's not working and nobody's doing anything about it. But they are not organizing. They are organizing behind slogans. They are not organizing behind things that actually can work to solve those things. And that's the problem. That's what happened. I think that's what happened in Virginia. How many people in Virginia do you know, Virginians, that didn't show up last night? And now look at what you're looking at. More in just a second. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. So your phone company probably talks a lot about coverage maps, unlimited plans, how many lines you can add and all those things. And they matter. But here's the question they don't ever ask or want to answer. Once they have your money every month, what do they do with it? 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You know, as I was listening to him talk, I'm thinking with all of the things that are going on in the world, And we look at everything as disconnected. Glenn, why aren't you talking about what happened in Virginia? Why are you talking to the happiness guy? Why aren't you talking about, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center? Why you haven't mentioned what happened with Iran yesterday? Well, I have. I have. And even if I haven't, because I haven't mentioned Iran, I've talked about the other things already, but I'm talking about all of them at once. People don't see how connected everything is. Again our biggest problem is we are dividing ourselves and not just between from one another but dividing ourselves and getting away from who we actually are or want to be Who do you want to be? Who do you want the nation to be? It's not just going to happen. You know, you could say, I want to be a doctor someday. But unless you take the steps to go to medical school, you're never going to be a doctor. I want to be happy. I want to be prosperous. Well, what steps are you taking? And unfortunately, now you can say, I want to be prosperous. I don't have to be rich. I just want to be able to have a nice life for my family. And you're taking all the steps, but you're taking the steps that I took when I was young. Those steps don't work anymore because the world has changed. So what are the steps you have to take? Unfortunately, you have other steps you have to take that I didn't necessarily, that weren't imperative for me. And that is guard the system. Understand the system. Clean up the corruption. Get the bad guys out of the way. Why is Donald Trump spending so much time on Europe and the Middle East? Because he knows those two things. One is draining us, along with our own corruption here. one is draining us of our resources. We're constantly having to worry about Ukraine. Why should we worry about Ukraine? That's their responsibility. Why should we have to worry about the Middle East? Well, because it's oil. Quite honestly, it's oil. And they're the biggest exporter in terror. We're never going to get out of the Middle East unless we solve the oil problem, unless we solve the terror problem. So what is the problem with oil? We're not producing it ourselves. Great. Produce oil. Now we have other steps. It's not working at your gas pump because the oil we produce, we have to send overseas because we can't refine it here. So we have to build refineries. That's a whole different story. What is it you have to do? What are the steps you have to take to fix it? It's easy to say the president needs to fix the country. He needs to fix the economy. 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Get extra insight and insider access with Glenn today by going overtime with him after radio. Do it by going to glennbeck.com slash torch. Welcome to the program. You know, we're just talking about Canada, trying to show how we need to look deeper into all of our problems. Instead of saying housing prices are so high and it's whatever, blame whatever. It's that. Why don't we look deeper into things? You know, people are growing angry. Housing prices, affordable health care, loss of culture. Why? Why? because of the political decisions that were made to, in many cases, to import huge population growth. And that drove up the price of everything, the loss of culture. Why was that decision? Are we talking about that? And are we talking about what are we going to do to get that under control? No. Instead, we just argue about you have a right to be a country without a border. gas prices, fuel prices, heating prices, even groceries. Well, blame it on Trump because of the Iran war. Well, why? Why did he go to war? Because we had terror, and he said he was going to stop all foreign wars. No, he never said that. This is a possible solution to be able to get ourselves, I mean, to fix the oil prices in America, at least, you have to produce your own oil, you have to refine your own oil, and you have to stop being held hostage by crazy people in the Middle East. So we have to go over to war all the time. I don't want a war for oil. So the war in Iran is a possible solution. It may not work. It may not be the solution you would come up with, but it's at least a possible solution that the president chose. If you want to solve the problem, you have to come up with a way to not be held hostage by crazy people. You have to stop doing business on oil with unsavory characters like Russia or Iran. You have to stop shutting down your own supply to oil. Start drilling for your own resources. Open your nuclear power plants back up. Open your oil rigs back up. But that's not what's happening. Nobody's talking about that because they're getting more and more angry. And I'll tell you, one place I worry about and one place I cheer for and pray for are the people in Ireland. They are rising up and they have had enough of all of this. But I don't know how this ends. Ben Scallon is with us. He's GRIP Media senior political correspondent. He is a conservative-leaning Irish news outlet, GRIPT is. and he's here to tell us about what is actually happening in Ireland and what the protesters are doing today. How is this going? What is the reaction? And is there any progress? Ben, welcome. Well, thank you so much for having me, Diane. Great to be here. Thank you. So what is happening currently on the ground with the protests in Ireland? So as you have no doubt heard, because it did make international press, the last couple of weeks have been very eventful here in the Emerald Isle. We've seen massive blockades of major roads all over the country with truckers and farmers in particular who are protesting over the price of petrol. Many of these are business owners who are literally now operating at a loss where they can't even pay the bills, let alone make a profit or have any kind of a thriving business. And in a country like Ireland that is so known for its agricultural sector, you know, this is one of our major, you know, when you think of Ireland, you think of farming, you know, some of our agricultural products are the best in the world. And so this is a huge deal. And one of the elements of this, of course, is the Iran war. Needless to say, that's been the primary driver of fuel prices. worldwide but for many years now in ireland over 50 percent of motor fuel prices are purely comprised of government taxes and levies so when you fill up your car over half of what you're paying is going straight into the state's coffers and so that's been the case for a long time people haven't been happy about it for a long time but they've kind of just accepted it it's been a a grumbling issue in the background that people have begrudgingly tolerated. But then when the price of energy worldwide explodes and people are not able to make ends meet, this has now become kind of the focal point where people are saying, well, why are we paying so much taxes? And what are you going to do about it, given that this is something that you can immediately do to pull the ripcord and help every citizen in the state? It's kind of like I think what they're demanding is kind of like when we have an oil crisis, as we go into the strategic oil reserve, and it reduces the price to some degree. But with you controlling the government, controlling 50% of the price just through taxes, you would think that it would be a no-brainer, especially when people are this unhappy, just to go, okay, we're going to reduce it by 50%. We have to have some of it, but we're going to take 50% of the taxes and reduce them, at least temporarily. Why won't they do that? Well, they did a small tax cut that many people who are in these industries are saying is woefully inadequate and has just been eaten up by inflation almost as quickly as it was put on. And they, for example, just to give one practical example of a measure they took, we have annual scheduled carbon tax increases. And the explicit purpose of this is to deliberately force people out of their cars. That was actually what one transport minister said back in 2019 to make it so unaffordable to drive your car that you're forced to take a bike or public transport or get an electric vehicle or something like that. So that is the express purpose of the policy is to hurt you. And lo and behold, it's hurting you. So now that that's become very politically thorny for the government, they've postponed the carbon tax hike until October. So they haven't even said that we're going to reduce carbon tax or we're not going to put carbon tax up. They've just kicked the can down the road by a few months. But as many analysts have pointed out by this point, October is going to be coming into winter when energy prices are going to surge. So you're going to be hit with a particularly large bill, bigger than you would ordinarily be hit with, just when you need energy the most. So that's where we are now. It's not really satisfactory so far as many of the protesters are concerned. So if you're flying, you know, through Europe, they're actually now saying the EU is saying we may not have enough jet fuel. I really don't understand how this is not going deeper to say to the politicians and to the people of Europe saying, wait a minute, wait a minute. we can't afford jet fuel we have a real problem everything stops without jets flying we have a real problem and you're either manufacturing this to get us to not fly and to not drive or you've made so many errors is anybody talking about opening up the oil rigs again opening up drilling opening up this uh uh you know the system that will give you cheaper energy there are people who are calling for that but the government is emphatic that we will not be doing that you know glenn that in ireland we import 100 of the oil that's used on the island we have one oil refinery but we don't actually generate any and it is estimated by independent independent assessors that we have hundreds of millions of barrels of oil potentially off the coast within our territorial waters but in 2020 the government actually banned oil exploration so that you can't look for it offshore so that's potentially sitting there under the ground and nobody is allowed to look for it or try to utilize that and at the same time we're importing it we don't have any nuclear power because that's something that we haven't really even discussed approaching here let alone actually implementing it yet we will import the electricity that's generated in nuclear countries like France so we are one of the most energy exposed countries in Europe and Europe as a continent is incredibly energy exposed relative to a country like America which obviously has its own domestic supplies of this stuff so we're incredibly precarious positions we were doing the same thing until Trump we were shutting it all down We were making it impossible to get our own energy, and we were headed exactly the same way. And thank God for Donald Trump to say, nope, we're drilling, drill, drill, drill. We're pulling it up. But we haven't built a refinery here in so long. Everything we drill, we have to sell overseas because we can't refine its light, sweet crude. We can't refine it here because we don't build refineries. So our prices of gas are still up through the roof because all the oil we pull, we have to sell to somebody else. Ben, it seems like much of the West, including here in America, is on this suicidal course. That the policies that are being imposed are just pushing us into suicide as nations or even a culture. Do you see hope on the other side? Do you think things are going to change? Is this a straw that broke the camel's back? Well, the protesters here, when they were blocking certain kinds of infrastructure as a form of protest, the government accused them of an act of national sabotage. I wonder what kind of sabotage it is to deliberately increase the price of energy on citizens with the express purpose of making their life harder. I think there's a lot of people in the crowd who would have called that an act of national sabotage. abitaged. I'm not aware of another region outside of Europe that does that, given, as you know, and as your listeners know, energy is the lifeblood of any kind of society or economy. This is the essence of the modern world, how we are able to heat ourselves, feed ourselves, transport ourselves. Without that, everything grinds to a halt. And so the idea that you would go out of your way as a state to intentionally make it harder for people to utilize that seems absurd to me. And of course, they say if a government minister was sitting here that this is all being replaced with green energy. But we've been pursuing that for decades now, and we're still in the position we're in. So without even getting into, you know, you could have all the arguments you want about the efficacy of windmills and offshore wind and all these different renewable measures that they push but if that was all it was cracked up to be i don't think we would be in the calamitous situation we're in now the the results kind of speak for themselves i'm going over to england uh to speak at the tommy robinson uh rally and my wife is like what what should we expect i mean how dangerous it's going to be. I'm like, it's going to be fine, honey. It's going to be fine. But the one thing that has crossed my mind is, you know, it's easy to blame Donald Trump for the price of oil. And I mean, it was his move that has caused all of this. So yes, in some ways it absolutely is our fault. What is the population's view on America and Americans at this time? well frankly Ireland is very hostile to Donald Trump overall the there are exceptions of course you're never going to get unanimity on somebody who's as polarizing as the U.S. president but I think there was a poll done not too long ago which found that if Ireland had a vote in the U.S. presidential election we would vote Democrats with a bigger margin than California so we would literally be the most liberal state in the u.s if if we were to have a vote in such things so yeah a lot of a lot of people blame donald trump and you know obviously there's an there's a strong argument for that given everything that's happened but yeah i also think you know these all the measures that we're discussing climate measures green energy measures all this recent crisis is doing is giving us a time machine like glance into the future of what they would be hoping for us you know how can you complain that donald trump is uh restricting our supply of oil when european leaders for decades have been deliberately trying to destroy their own supply of oil you know isn't he doing our own job for us that you guys tell us is the objective of success of governments You can't really blame him for delivering us into the utopia that we were all aiming for. 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Go to PatriotMobile.com slash back right now. 972-PATRIOT Use the promo code BEC Pre-Month of Service It's patreonmobile.com Slash BEC 972 PATRIOT Kevin, welcome to the program How are you, sir? Very good, you? I'm good It's a pleasure to have you on You know, I was just saying I saw an interview that you did I think it was 2019 When you joined leadership And Swalwell was in his sophomore year The Democrats knew about his relationship With a Chinese spy You were talking about it then And that's incredible to me that nothing happened. I tried. I tried to remove him. I made a privilege motion. And the Democrats, Pelosi, she's Pelosi's pet. You've got to understand to be on Intel. It's the hardest committee to get on. Only the leader picks. OK, on both sides. And as a sophomore, they're sitting in the minority. There's not very many seats. She elevates him. The FBI then comes and says, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You've got a problem. He's sleeping with the Chinese spy. She gets the briefing and Bainer, nothing happens. I become leader. I now have the right to the briefing. I find out about it. She takes the briefing with me and I look at her and said, you can't keep them on. She's now speaker. You've got to put somebody else on. And she wouldn't. So I made a motion and she worked against it to keep them. Why? Unbelievable. And then when I became speaker, I removed them. But why did she keep him? Because he was her protege. She even elevated him to a position inside steering decides where all the committees, who gets what when they fight and all that. She made him vice chair so he would do whatever she wanted. Same thing with shift. They all elevated him to make him something special and protected him. I knew about the Chinese based upon the FBI, and I came forward with that. That's why I removed him from Intel. I didn't know he was drugging women, but I was told by Democratic congresswomen, don't get around that guy. He's creepy, right? And so that's what people knew. She defended him this whole time, kept elevating him. when I removed him from Intel Committee, Hakeem Jeffries become leader. He tried to reappoint, said wouldn't do it. The San Francisco Chronicle that eventually came out with these stories criticized me for doing that, said I was just playing politics. Think about the number of young women we could have saved had they not done things like that, that followed his removal. So usually stuff happens like this, and you put corrupt people in because if you're corrupt, you can control them. They'll do exactly what you say because you'll say, no, you are doing that. Otherwise, I destroy you. I reveal everything I know. Is that what was happening? This is true. That's what I believe because look what happened. He didn't jump into the governor's race early. You had Katie Porter in there that was rising. Then all of a sudden, they drop these videos on her because Pelosi and Gavin and Schiff, they didn't like Katie Porter, okay? So she collapses. Then all of a sudden, Swalwell gets into that race. And the Democratic apparatus, Schiff comes out. Everybody gets behind him. The CTA, the SEIU, they start giving him a lot of money. But they also put a lot in for a super PAC. But there is one person in that group that doesn't endorse him, Nancy Pelosi. When this comes forward, okay, right before it all comes, when it first comes out, she treats it like Joe Biden. Protects Joe Biden the entire time when people know he's not all mentally there. But the moment the nation finds out, she's the first one to remove him. And I believe she knew the other stories because about right when I left, I had a reporter come to me about a young Democratic staffer that had that had a problem with him. I got her an attorney. She didn't know I was the one who got an attorney for. So I believe if I heard these stories, Pelosi had to have known. That's why she didn't endorse him for governor when it started getting when people started really looking into it. and then she went to knock them out once the paper printed it. So how many people do you think, Kevin, are like this? How much of the stuff? Because, you know, we'll see stuff. It's quite obvious something is wrong here. What is the percentage of people like this? Now, I don't want people to say, look, there's a lot of good people on both sides of the aisle. A lot of people say all the way through. It's a microcosm of society, Congresses. So you're going to have good and bad. Now, I'm going to be fair. I went to we had a member on the Republican side Matt Gaetz and I stood up to Matt Gaetz The reason he made the motion to remove me is because I would not stop the ethics investigation against him And lo and behold I was correct He did sleep with an underage girl. Now, the other concern I have here is on Swalwell. He has two really close friends. One is a senator now, Gallegos, and another is a congressman, Gomez. Gallegos was his chairman of his campaign when he ran for president. Gomez was the chairman of his race for governor. They weren't just close. They were together all the time. The stories I heard about Swalwell, I'd hear about those two as well. How quickly they ran once it got printed. And I had some of the Democrats come to me and say, how ironic that these two are running because they believe they have the exact same problem. And they probably thought they had the same kind of protection. They did. If the Speaker, if Nancy Pelosi is protecting you in the Democratic caucus, you're golden. If she elevates you because she tells you, now you're the vice chair, but this is who I want you to pick in a race to who gets the committee, he did it every time. When Kevin comes after you, I'll get all the Democrats to vote one way and we'll protect you. And then we'll elevate you when we don't like who's running for governor, we want you to run. and they put all the political apparatus behind her. And then what happens right after that, once the public knows it, it just flashbacks to Joe Biden. Remember, I was the earliest one to come out and said, look, I met with the president. He's not all there. They criticized. I worked with the Wall Street Journal. We had to work for more than six months to make that story come out for the public. They all attacked everybody. They put all the talk shows, Morning Joe and all that, like something is wrong with me. And then once he gets on stage for the nations to see it, they're the first ones to run from him and said he's got to go. They knew and been lying to the American public this whole time. So one of the CNN came out and they said, you know, this is just good gumshoe journalism that finally exposed this. And I said, that's not, I don't even think Swalwell is the story. I mean, it is a story, but that's not the story. The story is how, who did know all these years? Who did know this stuff was going on? Did you know it? Right. It's the cover-up of this. Yeah. And they're letting Nancy Pelosi up. Oh, no, I didn't know about it. You know what's so egregious to me is something's happening in the Republican group. Like Tony Gonzalez, I hope that man get elected. He faltered. OK, but I was the first one to say he needed to resign before the election, not to cover him. And then after the election comes out and then people want to. This is a challenge that we have. How are we? I mean, I'd be remiss in not asking you how the Republicans going to do in the midterms and then post Trump. Well, right now, I'm very concerned, especially about the House. and there's a couple measurements yeah Virginia now to me I do not like what's happening in this redistricting because now we're letting politicians pick their voters instead of the voters pick who they want to represent I'm opposed to all that I've put my own money in against California I sent $100,000 for the Virginias we did, now one positive thing here when everybody's saying negative we did increase Republican vote by 3% from the 24 presidential. If we were able to do that in an election, we would be in a much better place. But if you look historically, whoever wins on the off-the-election for governor in New Jersey and Virginia, if the Democrats win both, historically they flip the House. If Republicans win one, we flip the House. But if you look at that delegate races, there were eight Republicans who were running for reelection in Virginia, and they were in seats that Harris carried in the presidential, they all lost. There were five Republicans running for reelection in those seats that Trump carried. We lost five of them up to 4.5%. So that concerns me. If you look at the presidential race, President Trump carries all the swing states. He wins the popular vote, which is very big for Republicans, a president, and they lost seats in the House. Four years prior, when we didn't win the presidency, it was the first time since 1994 not one Republican incumbent lost, and we beat 15 Democrats. So how do we win then and lose now? That means President Trump did very well, but the party didn't. And if you take it a step further, in the last 70 races for the Senate in the presidential year 69 of the 70 states however they vote for president that party wins but this time president trump won arizona nevada michigan wisconsin but the republicans didn't win those senate seats so they're underperforming and then when i'm watching a high the highest number of retirements kind of in modern history the number of times we're losing discharge petitions in three weeks we lost more discharge petitions than we have in 30 years. And you've got to understand what that is. It's a rule that if you get 218 members of either party to sign a discharge petition, it's about one bill, that bill automatically comes to the floor. When you do that, you're turning the floor over to the minority. In my entire political career in Congress, only one time did a discharge petition go? And the speaker at that time, Republican speaker, wanted it to happen. Now, they just had a discharge petition that bill passed that was offered by one of the AOC crowd. Unbelievable. So that's a bad sign you're not working together. And then when the Democrats shut down the government, you're only given 24 months to have a majority. The Senate stayed in session. The House did not. I know. If I'm in the minority and the House shuts down, the minority's winning because you're not passing. You're giving up two months of your 24 months. I know, I know. Why wouldn't you be in there passing things every single day? Put the 80-20 issues on the floor, and you know what? Come November, you'd show the Democrats voted against this. I would show those Democrats voted to keep Swalwell. Run on that, too. Let me, I only have about a minute left. Let me ask you, what am I missing on Thune? because none of this makes sense on the voter ID stuff. Why isn't that going through with as popular as it is? What needs to happen? Okay. So the Senate has different roles in the House. The House is pure whoever has the majority. I don't like all this Republican on a Republican fight when we're trying to keep it, okay? I'm just up front. When I watch others on the outside fighting, you've got to unite. And what I would do, someone wants it to pass through. What Thune has is some members who may not and has some Democrats who may not. So you need more votes than just Republicans. Otherwise, you've got to change the rules. That's the decision where you want to go. But the Save America Act, it is so popular with Republicans and Democrats. I would take it by pieces then, okay? And I would put each piece one by one, okay? Voter ID. Just put that up and see all who would vote for or not. Then add the next piece. And then what you can do, you can toggle it all back together after they vote for it. But if you keep it all together, I've watched this on difficult bills, and everybody wants to pick one thing they can't be for. Okay, then let's put it piece by piece and really show the American public and jam it right at you and then piece it back together and show, no, it's the way to go. You've got to think outside the box and you've got to put harder pressure. That's the way I would look at it. Kevin, great to talk to you. Kevin McCarthy, former U.S. House Speaker. Appreciate it, sir. Thank you. Thank you. You bet. All right. Let me tell you about relief factor in the past few days. I have signed, I think, approximately about nine and a half billion thank you cards for members of this audience. And I know what you're thinking, Glenn. You don't have nine and a half billion listeners. No, I know. But I think there are, I think I've signed for nine and a half billion thank you cards. It just never ends. Relief factor has kept me going from going insane. I will tell you, I didn't, I was, there was a time where I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to write anymore. My hands were so bad in so much pain. 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What have I missed that we've got to jam in here? Jason? Jason. Hey, Glenn. Gosh, man, there's just so much stuff today. I mean, there was the FBI on the FBI, the new case that they were spying on the GOP. I've talked about that a little bit to the insiders. I thought just they must have been talking about Arctic frost. They had to have been just more details leaking out bit by bit. But it was actually something completely different. They're calling it Operation Rampart 12. What is this one? So pretty much the same thing. But what's crazy is the predication that was used to start Biden's DOJ and FBI to spring into action on this. It sounds like it was just rumors that spilled out from other Democrats that said, hey, we think that you guys should look into some of these Republicans. And so they did, apparently. It just makes me wonder, Glenn, if if these people ever do get power again, just based off of what they have done, the little things that are leaking out now about it. And we still don't really see any kind of movement to ensure this does not happen again. I mean, what the heck? Look at what, you know, look at Spanberger, what she said, you know, she ran as a moderate. And look what she's done. They're not saying they're going to be moderate on any of these things now. They're saying that there's going to be a purge. You know, they're going to get rid of the filibuster. I mean, they are going to do all of it. They're going to do all of it. And I think there is real trouble coming. My gosh, if we get the House, or if we lose the House, the House is going to do nothing but impeachment for two years. If you keep the Senate, it won't go anywhere. But it'll just be nonstop impeachment and scandal and everything else the whole time. Yeah, I hesitate to call impeachment the bare minimum. But, I mean, I think, yeah, that's just part of the plan. 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They have specific transactions, about $3 million in transactions that the government has traced to bank records and wires, to people who were in extremist groups, people like the KKK and others, that were acting allegedly as informants for the SPLC. And the question will become here, does that constitute fraud? If you're SPLC and you say your job is to fight hate, but you have delivered money to people who are members of hate groups, without the controls that an FBI or Justice Department would have with a cooperating informant, have you committed fraud? But the wire transactions are pretty clearly laid out in the indictment. And this is an extraordinary flipping of the script of SPLC. I mean, this is a group that grew its fame by standing alongside those who were being discriminated against in the 50s, 60s, and 70s during the civil rights movement. Today, they stand accused of funding the very people who continued to espouse hate in America. And I think that the notion that a nonprofit could have an informant system, moving monies to these groups, is troubling to a lot of people that I've talked to in the last couple of days. Even if it was well-intentioned, probably not allowed for under the tax code under which they're constituted, the 501c3 tax code. I mean, I know I run a 501c3, and I don't think I – I think it would be pretty obvious that I shouldn't open bank accounts under false names and wire money to really bad guys. I think it would be bad. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah. So USA Today, I think, is carrying water for them. This is what it says. The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted for paying sources to infiltrate hate groups, a tactic used by federal agencies for decades. But the key here is they weren't a federal agency. So that's exactly what are the important part. What are the safeguards? What what separates them from the federal agency being allowed to do that? Well, first, the federal agencies, when they do this, are often under the authorization of a federal court. There is civil liberties protections considered. and when identities are used, they're approved under lawful measures. Here, the SPLC decided it was going to be an FBI light, for lack of a better word, and you don't have the right to create fictitious accounts. There's nothing in the bank laws that say, hey, you can make a fake account if you're doing SPLC work. And I think, also keep in mind where this was filed. This was filed in Alabama. It's a no-nonsense state. It's going to be a tough jury for the SPLC to face. But you and I can't create a fake bank account, nor can the SPLC. Only the government can under the direction of a court and under very tight regulation that protects civil liberties. And here there are some really serious concerns about civil liberties, too, which is when a nonprofit group rises to government-type work without supervision, do they risk harming someone's civil liberties? So is there any evidence at all that they were working in tandem with the FBI, DOJ, or Deep State? Well, we know that the FBI in the Chris Wray era particularly relied on SPLC to identify hate groups. Remember that SPLC tried to suggest that Moms for Liberty was a hate group. I think they flagged Charlie Kirk's group. A lot of conservatives felt like those were extreme labels that didn't belong on either of those groups. The FBI often in the past relied on SPLC to identify hate groups, oftentimes to the detriment of the FBI. That's why we probably have the problems with going after Latin Catholics and Latin mass Catholics in parents and school board meetings. Now, I'm not suggesting SPLC directly funded those or impressed those, but they created a nonprofit system that the FBI would listen to, and they were all on the far left. And over time, the far leftists use these designations to hang nasty signs and Hester print A's on conservative groups they just didn't like. And so Kash Patel comes in. He ends those relationships. And then in the course of ending those relationships, he found out what the FBI knew, which was, hey, these guys are setting up fake bank accounts and working. To date, we haven't seen any documents that suggest the FBI authorized a nonprofit to do so. And it's probably unlikely given the code of law. So was it most likely that the SPLC just knew that the FBI will turn a blind eye? Because we're doing their work. We're helping them. Yeah, we'll see what their defense is. I don't have a good sense of what it is. The SPLC of 2026 is not the same SPLC of the 1960s and 70s. And so these groups evolve, and sometimes they get too big for their britches. And we'll see where a jury comes down. But it is kind of a remarkable thing to think that the SPLC was sending money to hate groups so that they could essentially be more hateful in hopes of being able to spy on that hate. It just doesn't seem like the right sort of system from a common sense. So does this does this I mean, at least this one was announced by the DOJ. I mean, you know, it looks like we're going to prosecute here more investigations on nonprofits coming. Yeah, I think we're about to enter into, we have MAGA, we have MAHA, we have all these great acronyms. I think we're about to enter into a period of MAAA, make America accountable again. I think with Pam Bondi moved aside, the speed at which the Justice Department will move on things that have been working in the system for months is picking up. And so there will be more nonprofits that we're doing things that probably are not allowed under the tax code. If you incorporate yourself to say we want a tax exemption because we're going to do public good and you obstruct law enforcement proceedings on the streets of Minnesota or somewhere else, you're probably in danger of having committed fraud. So I would look and see. I'm watching. I think there will be more indictments in the nonprofit realm. Then we're looking at those who may have given false testimony or obstructed Congress. We know John Brennan was referred for that. James Comey was targeted for that. I think those are on the table right now. Then those who may have gone and gotten phone records and pierced the privacy of individuals, they're next in line. So this line keeps moving. And then I think in the summer and fall, we're going to talk a lot more about a case called Operation Round River. It may be the most troubling of the four. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Round River. Just remember that name. What we believe it is. Yeah. So it falls between Crossfire Hurricane and then Plasmic Echo and Arctic Frost. Plasmic Echo and Arctic Frost are the things that evolve into Jack Smith's investigations. They classify documents as Plasmic Echo. Arctic Frost is the idea. Years later, we're going to go back and charge President Trump with a conspiracy because he and his people wanted to have alternate electors. Now, it's important in that Arctic Frost, which there was a great hearing on yesterday, Two times in history before this, presidential candidates did submit alternate electors to Congress. 1960, John Kennedy. 1876, Sam Tilden. Neither time were those considered criminal acts. But in Donald Trump's world, he's considered a criminal for doing it the third time. That's what Otter Cross is. But between that, when Russia collusion and crossfire hurricane was ending, the FBI opened up a new investigation called Round River. And its goal was to neutralize anyone who would dare suggest that there was a corrupt relationship between Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, and the Ukrainian government or the Ukrainian company Burisma. And to treat people who talked about it with certain speech parameters as national security threats. And I'm working hard to get those files to classified. And I think that's going to be the most troubling because I believe if what we're being told is true, and I want to check it until we get it there, there may have been speech parameters as the reason you were targeted. If you said something, you might have been assessed as a security threat by the FBI. That would be very troubling. I've seen some evidence in court filings in the last few days that entire law firms had their client records taken secretly under this investigation or spinoffs from it. You're supposed to have some privacy when you have a relationship with you and your lawyer. So we'll see where that leads. But all the people I've talked to in government think that Round River may be the most jaw-dropping of the four code name investigations that targeted Donald Trump and his followers. So talk to me about Tulsi Gabbard. You said, you know, may things move faster now that Tulsi Gabbard has moved aside. But, I mean, she just released some pretty powerful documents. Yeah, no, no, Pam Bondi. I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah, Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi moved aside. Okay, good, good. Yeah, Tulsi has been a fantastic – I mean, listen, I've had to, you know, work with a group because sometimes the intelligence community, isn't prone to transparency. But she listened to our arguments, and she has been great, and she's, I think, carefully and wisely declassified some very important things. Really important things. Yeah. Go through the elections. What are we missing from the documents that she released related to the impeachment? So I think we have most of it now. We've identified a lot of the players who had code names in those documents. We identified Witness 2 today as a former NSA employee who clearly was anti-Trump. So we now know all the players, and she's made a criminal referral, and I think the Justice Department will move on that quickly, determine if crimes are committed, if they're still in the statute of limitations, does there need to be a conspiracy charge. I think she gave us the whole bundle. Are we still thinking about a grand conspiracy? Because it seems to all fit to that. Yeah. I think that's why Joe DiGenova was brought down to Fort Pierce. I broke that story on Saturday, and that's an important moment. You have a guy, one of the few lawyers in the history of this company to hold the title of U.S. attorney, independent counsel, special prosecutor. Three times in his life, he's been asked to run major, major criminal enterprise investigations. You bring him down to Florida, you mean business. And he's a no-nonsense, get-it-done sort of guy. He's clearly conservative, clearly likes Donald Trump. But at the end of the day, what he's most famous for as an independent prosecutor was not charging people who he didn't think committed crimes. He's not a guy that's going to charge a fake crime. He's always been honest about that. But if he did commit a crime, he knows how to bring a conspiracy case. And so you look at how he brought the Marion Barry corruption scandal in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan, a really good conspiracy-type investigation. So he's got the experience, the wherewithal, and the independence to go make the decisions, sort the wheat from the chaff. There's no doubt that the Florida grand jury in Fort Pierce is looking at the last 10 years as an ongoing conspiracy, a wash, rinse, repeat cycle. Democrat has a problem. Hillary Clinton has a Russia problem. Democrats create fake narrative, hang Russian shingle on Donald Trump, and investigate Donald Trump, potentially violating his civil liberties and those around him. Joe Biden has a Ukraine problem. Washer in three feet. We're going to hang our Ukraine problem on Donald Trump, start an investigation, neutralize his people, potentially violate their civil liberties. Joe Biden has a classified documents problem. They find him by the Corvette in the UPenn office as well. and then they're going to hang a classified documents case on President Trump. And then Joe Biden has a mental acuity problem. It becomes very obvious in 23 he's got a problem. And so Jack Smith's Arctic Cross sort of invents a different concept, which is, well, we were thinking about the violence at the Capitol. We're not going to charge a president with that, but we are probably going to charge him for conspiring to look at alternate electives, even though it's been done twice in our country, as a criminal conspiracy. Every time the Democrats had a liability, they used the power of government intelligence and law enforcement and prosecution to project that problem onto Republicans and make it a liability. Along the way, there's a lot of civil rights and liberties that probably are violated, and I think that's the theory of the conspiracy case. We'll see if a grand jury buys it. John, always good to have you on. Thank you so much. Great honor. Thank you. John Solomon, Just the News. If you don't get your news from Just the News, you should. Go to justthenews.com, justthenews.com, and you'll find John and all of his. It's a site that I check every single day. I think they do excellent work. All right, let me tell you about real estate agents I trust. You know, some people will spend months preparing for a vacation that they take once. Sometimes those, you know, same people will spend maybe 10 minutes choosing the person who's supposed to help them buy a house. Think about that. 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Glenn Beck is back after this. so i'm going to uh do an extra half hour of the show today because we had so much jammed in and i really wanted to go and do the pros and cons of fisa because i think this fisa argument And we have a real problem with FISA, obviously. And this is not something that was born after September 11th. This was born out of the church committee in the 1970s. And it was born to be able to control the spying. And it has just made things worse. And I have a solution for it. Because I think we can't deny anybody who says that, oh, we don't need FISA. that we don't need to spy outside of the, you know, outside of the United States and figure out what's going on and what's coming in here. You're fooling yourself. We have to know what's going on. But we have to be really very careful on what's happening inside. And you should not be able to spy on American citizens without the highest, highest standard. And so I'm both for and against all of this stuff, as I think anybody reasonable could look at both sides, and I'll lay it out for you here in a minute. But the problem is not oversight. The problem is punishment. And I laid this out for my staff today, and they were like, are you sure you want to go on the air with that right now? And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, maybe you should rethink that. And I'm like, nope, not going to rethink it. I just ran out of time. 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