Mormon Wives Scandals, The Next Scandoval & Ray J’s $6M Kim K Secret!

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He is divorced and he's dating Vanessa Trump, who is the former wife of Donald Trump Jr. and they have five kids and she has stayed silent. But I would think I would not want my kids, whether you're Tiger's ex-wife or your ex-wife is dating him, I would not want them ever to be even in his golf cart, honestly, at this point. He's a horrible driver. Secret lives of Mormon wives. There's been some updates. This is very weird. Jesse, who is the girl who does very well, she gives all the Mormons these long ass hair extensions and she is on the show. She and her husband have, he filed for divorce. She went on Caller Daddy and said that he was into having, going to sex parties allegedly and that he allegedly had hired sex workers, but she looked past that, didn't believe him when he said it wasn't true. And when she kissed Marciano from the villa, who came on my show, she said he held that over her head like a blackmailing thing throughout their marriage. And she's the breadwinner and she's happy to be getting divorced from him. Now her business is established in Utah and that's important to what I'm going to tell you next. All of a sudden, these little stories start coming out that she allegedly had made out with Chase. Who is Chase? Chase is the ex-husband of Miranda and they were part of the swinging scandal before the show started. It was, I believe Chase got together with Taylor, Frankie, Paul and Miranda and they got divorced and Chase is part of the show. So we're like, wait, what? So now Jesse has made out with Chase and then there's like videos of them kind of joking about it. And he's wearing her merch about Jesse does bad hair. Like that's like her thing about, I don't know, it comes off of, I think what Layla said and she's used it to build her business of her salon. That does all these hair extensions and she's got like 50 employees. And then Miranda shows and posts on her social media a note with flowers in which Jesse is like saying, let me read it. I completely understand you being upset with me, but wanted to send you a little something to let you know I'm thinking about you and I am so, so sorry, Jesse. Pretty long note actually for the florist to type out. But the fact that Miranda then posted this, people are speculating that I don't know if people are not I'm speculating. I think this is like bullshit. Like is there nobody else in all of Utah to hook up with now? Sometimes people do that swing or communities that people that are parents start dating their friends best friend that affairs happen. That's since the beginning of time. There is literally a commandment that says thou shall not cover cover thy neighbor's wife. Literally, it's the neighbor. So this does happen for getting religious, but it seems like are they possibly cultivating this story so that Chase can stay on the show. Miranda can stay on the show and Jesse can stay on the show and they can return filming in Utah because right now. Three of the other girls have already moved to the Newport, California area in which we knew that they were already looking to cast a Secret Lives of Mormon wives, California edition. And so the thought is they're going to film that with the three girls, which is I think Michaela and who else is it? It's Michaela and Jen, Affleck and someone else that they're going to do that there and they don't want to be left behind. Jesse, because she can't pick up her whole business and she's divorcing Jordan. So they are going to have shared custody. She couldn't move to California. So they want their filming to continue in Utah. And one way is to show the world we have our own Scandiball. It's not domestic violence. It's a little sexier than that. It's cheating with your best friend's ex. Okay. So I don't know. But that's that's what I think is I think they're like, we don't want these shows to stop and we certainly don't want it to continue without us in California. As a California, I'm just happy that there's any TV production happening here. So great. Oh, on the Bachelorette, they're saying this article has come out. This is from KTLA A5 News that one of the 22 men that were vying to win Taylor Frankie-Paul's heart on the Bachelorette, which has since been pulled from the lineup. He actually was the one driving the car when a when former representative Madison Cawthorne was paralyzed from the accident. So I looked into this because I was like, what is this? Was the was the guy drunk? Was he really young? Well, the two of them were friends. They were driving back from a trip. The Bachelorette contestant fell asleep at the wheel. And Madison had his legs up on the dashboard, which you should never do. And but very, very sad. And I don't think that's I think if I was an executive that wouldn't have kept me from not wanting him. I'm guessing that you saw that as a producer of saying this is something very traumatic and very the guilt that you'd feel. I don't know if they'd be their still friends or not. But if nothing happened to him as far as criminal criminally, then I think that's kind of an interesting. I could see that there would be a moment where, you know, they always have those moments where they they tell the contestants, save that juicy story about your ex or about your mother dying when you're four or whatever. Don't tell that on the first night. We want you to save that because we think that you're going to make it to, you know, the final six. And that's when you tell that story at dinner. That's when you're going to save that it is planned out like that much. So I don't think that that was a big deal. Speaking of love, love story. JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bissette story has concluded. And it was really good. And it was, you know, Connie Zimmerman was playing the mother of Carolyn and her sister Lauren, and she was so excellent. And it was very interesting, sad, sad episode. They did not delve into the rumors that even though he was staying at a hotel, they show that they're fighting and they stay in a hotel and he comes from the hotel, you know, to go meet on the plane. And take her on the plane. And they do talk about all the reasons that he shouldn't have flown that night. He really wasn't experienced enough. He should have had an instructor with him or not flown at all. They left late. And the articles were written in the press at the time. It's because she changed her nail color and therefore they left like an hour later than they should have. But really it was the spatial disorientation that he had. It can happen to pilots, but a sign that he was, you know, a little was reckless in doing that. But they did not share that there's rumors that was he possibly involved with someone else or seeing an ex-girlfriend. There was a, there was that too, but they did not cover that part of it. Some people thought it was in poor taste that we actually see them in the plane. And but I didn't. I thought the story has been written about. It's been all over the news. It was, I liked that they sort of explained technically what happened while he was flying. Anyway, I'm sad that it's over. The rumor is that Ryan Murphy is going to do another edition of Love Story, but it's going to be Elizabeth Taylor and her multiple marriages to the same man, Richard Burton. And I'm super excited for that. I don't know who they're looking to play her, but what a great role for somebody. Okay. Summer House, which I have not really covered, but you, I'm going to tell you again why this is just an interesting topic, whether you're watching it or not. But Summer House has Kylan Amanda, who are the two of the original castmates. It's been going on for 10 years where every weekend they go from New York to the Hamptons and have these fun, crazy drunken, you know, times and people fall in love and they hook up. And a man and Kyle were together in the beginning. They've had a bad relationship. They were cheating accusations, but she still married him and then it's letting him became a DJ. And that's really where she was like, I don't think it's going to work out. So we see the demise of their marriage. They have since, I don't know if anyone's filed for divorce yet, but they're definitely on their way. We see it happening. And the latest episode he had to apologize for because he's acting so horribly to her and saying FU and all this. And there's a scene where Wes is there as one of the cast members, friends and roommates in the house. And he's kind of comforting Amanda and he's telling, you know, Kyle, you need to apologize. Well, now there's speculation that Wes and Amanda are more than just friends. And there's photos of him wearing a hat and then you see her wearing the same hat. Amanda, you know, a couple months later and then Sierra who dated Wes, she and Amanda were supposed to have a Amazon live and do some stuff together. And now I think they're still following each other, but they're not liking each other's posts. And is this real too? Are they trying to keep their, are they trying to have their mini scant of all? And are they hoping that this will get us to watch the spin off, which is the city in which Kyle and Amanda and a couple other people are doing where we actually see them in the city, not just at the summer house because they're getting a little long in the tooth to be sharing a house with a bunch of people when they're like inching towards 40. So that's what, you know, that's keeping us going. Anyway, the hat wearing, getting back to Tom Sandoval, the hat wearing reminded people of when Rachel Raquel was wearing a shirt from Tom Tom and then Tom Sandoval went. And so that's how it was as Raquel in that outfit for Halloween. And it was like, wow, these two are really, really good platonic friends. Like people didn't think it was weird at the time. And then when we found out they were having an affair, it was like, Oh, of course that makes sense now. So that's where the hat wearing and all that is that happening? Or are they just friends? And why that would be quite scandalous on this summer house show. And I watched a little clip. I'm not watching villains, but Tom Sandoval, I guess it's like a villains is like you get kicked out of the house or something. And it's all these reality stars. And Tom Sandoval gets up there. I don't know if this is a joke or not, but I thought it was a pretty great clip and pretty funny. And he says to Kate Chastain of Below Deck, like, I can't believe you're kicking me out of the house or whatever this is. And he goes, I had so many plans for us. I was going to follow you on Instagram. And then if you did like a sponsored post, I was going to immediately comment on it so that more conversation could start, which is really important when you do a sponsored post is to have like organic conversation so that that post doesn't just do poorly because it is hashtag ad post. And she was just like, OK, Tom. Anyway, I thought it was really funny and I don't know if he was being serious or not, but it did kind of make me miss him and I hadn't seen him in a while. Okay. Since we are looking for new shows, you guys, the comeback on HBO debuted this week. I think there's two episodes that you can watch right now. And I am telling you, if you didn't watch the other seasons, you're in for a treat. But if you want to hop on right now and start watching, it's going to remind you of me a lot. And I am dying. You know, I'm a huge Lisa Kudrow fan. She was my teacher at the groundlings. And I just love this show. I love the co-creator and Dan and he's going to come on Juicy Scoop and talk all about it. And we're going to set that up and maybe we can get Lisa. But even if we don't, it's okay because the show is so funny and so clever. And it's, you know, you just you have to see it. You know enough about the business by listening to my stories on Juicy Scoop that you will absolutely get all the jokes. And she's just so adorable in it and so believable. So please watch that so we can talk about it. And then Hacks comes back April 6 or something. So we have some things to look forward to. Real comedy that I just can't wait to watch. We said that the Real Housewives of New Jersey is returning. It's Melissa and Teresa and Dolores are all coming back. So we got to hear from all the other ladies talking about how they aren't coming back. And we, one of the things was, what is it? Jennifer Aiden. And I was like, wait, I think that she was never coming back because of what happened at Jersey Mikes in. Yes, there was a Jersey Mikes and Drake, Drake popped up. He must be hungry. I mentioned Jersey Mikes. Do you guys remember her story? Okay. She at the time the show was like airing, but it has not filmed since this incident. And I'm pretty sure she was never going to be included because of it. She went to Jersey Mikes first thing in the morning at the airport on New Year's Day. She and her five kids, and I think like another woman who was a friend, she was in line at Jersey Mikes to get all the subs to take on the plane or eat whatever while they're waiting. And she started filming the workers because she and posted it thinking that all of her fans would be like, my God, Jennifer Aiden, you're right. Those people working minimum wage, making your turkey sandwiches for you and your five kids and your plastic surgeon husband and your friends, they do deserve to be shamed. There's no good customer service. New Year's Day at the crack of dawn at the airport. Like, and she is doing it and while she's yelling at the woman, she's saying, all my stuff is real. All my meaning, all your labeling crap is real. Well, then you're an idiot. All right, you're an idiot if you're buying it all real when, you know, you see a 16 year old drenched in the fake shit and it looks just as good on her. Who the fuck cares? Anyway, that was pretty, pretty bad. And so then she said, I didn't wasn't expecting to come back basically. And I do appreciate that honesty. She didn't bring up Jersey Mike's, but I'm pretty sure she probably doesn't eat there anymore. And then the other and then Margaret Joseph said she'd been talking with them for a while and she will not be coming back. 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We talked about in real estate JUICYSCOOP that Chelsea Handler had spoken about how she was very unhappy with the house that she bought from Cheryl Hines and Robert Kennedy Jr. and that it was toxic and it took her five years of remodeling until she could move in. And it was $6 billion. So Cheryl Hines did respond and I'll summarize what she said. But I thought it was pretty great. She was like, I think it's kind of interesting that she brings it up now. You know, five years later, I knew she was buying it. I left her a note with my number. So I wasn't trying to like unload some toxic house that I didn't know was toxic. You know, I talked about home inspections. Anyway, well, you know what? You drop a name like that and you make headlines. So if she had told a story of this house I bought, you know, from this lovely podiatrist, I thought it was a lovely podiatrist, but the house is horrible and it would have been a nothing. I mean, it would have been on her show, but nobody would have written articles about it. Sometimes these things are strategic and some people are really good at it when they want to get a little pop of press and you can easily do that in this podcast world where we all have one and a way to get a story out. We don't have to go on a red carpet. We don't have to do anything. And then there's other times where it isn't intentional and then it spirals and you're like, oh, people love this story and I can make some jokes about this because they, you know, she's not a fan of his of his politics and his genes. So but I thought that was a pretty good answer that she said. Okay. Real housewife of Beverly Hills. We are chugging along in Italy and it is really coming down to everyone's pissed at Dereet because she's late all the time, which we've seen. It's also been revealed that that time that the whole world fell in love with the fact that she was driving and smoking and they're like, oh my God, and I predicted that smoke you would come back. And now there's like been 20 articles since I said on the show about Kylie Jenner on the cover of Vogue that yes, people are going back to smoking. They, JFK and Carolyn Bissette in the love story show, which is broken records apparently for how many views that series got, especially the wedding episode that they were smokers and people are just yearning for skinny smoking non iPhone days of the late nineties. Anyway, that she's was always smoking, but they didn't put it on the show. They kept it kind of a secret because it was taboo until now. So lots of times the cast would be, I think Crystal said this, lots of times the cast would be held up and while they're trying to film because she'd be off having a cigarette. And so now, you know, they are annoyed that she's always late and everything. So it's coming up. Well, is she smoking or is she late or does she just not care or what the deal is? So that is why they're fighting in Italy. And I think I told you when I was at Kathy Hilton's house for that party, which is like the final, I think that's like the final day they shot. Because like the next day was going to be Kyle's daughter's wedding. And I don't think they were filming that for the show, but a lot of them were going was they were like yelling at her being like, you left us in Italy. So I'm like, how did they leave her in Italy? It's not like she has the jet left. No, she like was getting gelato and was annoyed and like, because they were trying to have an intervention with her about spending too much money. And by the way, she bought four Gucci bags. And I would say that's lame. I don't know why you need four unless it's such a great deal. But still, that's very excessive when you're going through divorce. And now she says they're going to have to sell the house and she and her kids are going to find something else. And you know, she's going to end up renting because that happens to a lot of housewives just like Shannon Badour. You had this house, you got divorced, and then you end up wanting to rent something so that it matches your lifestyle and your clothes and it has the big closet. But you're just throwing that money away and you're going to have nothing to show for her when the lease is up, whatever. So she's like, why are you on my asshole, Kyle, about what I'm doing? And then Kyle's like, well, I've been having, I went through a tough time as well, you know, like I'm going through a separation too. But it seems like Kyle has the happiest separation of anybody. She and Maricio laugh. They had a, they did have a lovely time planning the wedding. And it seemed like the wedding went off without a hitch, even though they're separated for their daughter. And, but she did buy a house in Tennessee in Nashville and there have been some Bravo fans that have taken to their TikTok to let us know that Kyle and Morgan, I'm going to make you love me. They've been having some cute lunches or whatnot, what you might want to call that type of situation. Just talking, just having lunch, like two girlfriends straight or not do. And a lot of people in California have bought houses in Tennessee. I think it's one of those states where it's like a good place to buy as far as like property tax or something. And people love it. And people love it. Nashville is great. So, and she likes wearing cowboy hats. So it all makes sense. And the fact that Morgan Wade lives there too. Well, isn't that nice? So anyway, uh, there, there's that problem. And then there's the Amanda Francis who sell is the manifesting queen, money queen. And this whole situation for her, she probably manifested, I will be on real housewives of Beverly Hills and it will make me more money and make me more popular than ever before. And I think her manifestation came true. A lot of people are saying that they get the book and they read the book and things are money is dropping from the sky or deals are happening or. And she teaches you how to do it. And again, it's a digital course or a book. You don't have to buy it. It seems she's not harming anyone by it, but Bose has been questioning her authenticity and what in fact this business is. And both is a real established actual executive marketing person. It worked for all these companies. And so they look up her reviews in the car on camera and Sutton reveals to Amanda that it it didn't sit well with her because she said, wow, I wouldn't have wanted that to happen when I had my clothing store. I wouldn't have wanted the girls to go and look this up and put it on camera because it's just like, what if they had done that to Lisa Vanderpump? What if they had pulled up bad food reviews on Yelp during the show? They probably would have just no one thought of it before or maybe they did. And that never made the scenes because Lisa Vanderpump, Lisa Vanderpump had some real power at Bravo with her spin offs and whatnot of Vanderpump rules. But it is pretty, it is pretty shitty, but that has become par for the course of these real housewife shows. You're either poking at someone's marriage or revealing that their business practices aren't good or that they are have bankruptcies or whatever. So then Amanda looked up Bose and Bose also had sold digital courses. So she's like, why is she going after me? And Bose is just like, I just feel like you're not really being honest, but I just, I don't know. I think this really just might be her personality. So that's probably the juiciest stuff that's happening on the show. I still like it. I still watch it, but it has been a slower season until next week. When I, when you're going to see me in the background at the Hilton's, and then of course we have the reunion. So, okay, this was very interesting. So Heather Gay has a new book out, Heather Gay of Real House as a Salt Lake City, and it's actually a fiction book. And so she wrote some, you know, story and the cover of her book is way, way too similar to this other book, which is already like a bestselling author's book that already did well. It wasn't some little thing, kind of like the Mel Robbins stealing the let them thing that was a smaller movement, though it was all over the internet where this, this poet had come up with the let them theory herself and then Mel took it. Oh, by the way, Mel Robbins is also doing the same thing with this other guys. He, you went on the Today Show or Good Morning America and he's a content creator, and he has this whole thing called admin night, meaning administrative night for yourself where you make a plan once a week to meet with a friend, go and work out all the little shit that you're putting off, doctor's appointments, answering emails, setting up your week for success, do it with a friend, go to a cute happy hour, go to some place with good Wi-Fi and you knock it out together. That's what he was doing. And then all of a sudden Mel Robbins does a video and she's like, I'm going to tell you something that you need to do. Let me put on my glasses. These aren't a good pair, but I'm going to tell you what you need to do. You need to do an admin day just for your social media. An admin day just for yourself and don't have it be about decluttering the drawer. It's got to be taking care of the doctor's appointments, taking care of you, figuring out, paying the bills, getting all that stuff. And that's what we're going to do. One day a week, we're going to have an admin day. Make sure the house is empty and this is what you're going to do. So people were like, wow, that's really similar to this guy's thing. And he called her out on it and he feared that it would become her new book. It would become her new program, her new grift or whatever. And a hundred percent, she stole it from him. Now, did she see it herself? Probably not. Does she have a team of writers that have to pitch different ideas and things? And I'm guessing they saw his and then was like, well, let's change it today and get more towards, you know, moms or women. And that would be a day, not a night, because a busy mom is going to be able to meet her girlfriend for happy hour in the city where there's good Wi-Fi like this guy and his friends do. So yeah, I'm stealing. So they're accusing Heather Gay of also stealing this cover idea, book cover idea from this already established author. And it's like a mirror, like a compact and then it's cracked and it's someone's face like someone's lips and it's really too similar. Now, my book, You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again, which is right behind me. That was an idea that my book agent and I came up with. I laid sexily in a one of because it was, you know, I still mentioned that I had kids that I was a mom, we put me in a, one of those ball things. I don't even know if they have them anymore because they're probably very disgusting, germing, but you go in those ball things and I went into them and they were colored and then they digitally made them all blue because my book was, You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again. And I laid in them. Well, after that, there was a cover of a magazine that another comedian was in, in which she was in the same situation with the balls. The exact same pose, everything. And then I also saw that Courtney Kardashian did it with her gummies, with her lemmy gummies. You know, I don't know. I'd never seen it before in mind. It can happen. And I remember when I was thinking of a book cover, someone of my team mentioned that I should do the Tiffany, breakfast at Tiffany's look with the cigarette and the gloves and the hair up and all that. And the first thing I said is, eh, I don't smoke, never have. So I'm not going to do the cigarette. And B, I feel like I've seen that a lot. I've seen that a lot, like magazines, probably other book covers, things like that. So I think that her team failed her, that, that they did not do the work to realize that something, this cover was already done. And she should change it. She should change it. But I don't know. Maybe the book's already been printed a million times. We'll see. I really don't know what's going on with this Kim Kardashian and Ray J. Case. I have to look into it, but he is saying that the story was very different than what has been told by Kim and Chris. And there's been depositions, but also they, um, they, there's a secret six million sex tape settlement that did happen that they hashed out in 2023 that prohibited either of them about talk, talking about it to begin with. So I don't know what is going on with this, but I have some juicy thoughts based on my own knowledge that I'll share on Patreon this Friday. So make sure you join my Patreon and you just go to HeatherRickDoll.net. If you have not joined it, there's like, I don't know, 1100 episodes. It's all commercial free. It's all fabulous. You're so lucky. Also, we, you know, if you're not part of, um, subscribe to Juicy Crimes, I hope you do that. I'm going to tell you a little juicy crime that's happening right now that it just can't wait for the, for the Juicy Crimes podcast. I was to be here. This is so horrible. So this doctor in Hawaii, he and his wife went on a little trail hike in Hawaii. They lived there and he had given her a nice card that morning for her birthday. And then these two other, um, women are hiking. I think one or both of them were nurses. Thank God. And they hear this woman screaming. They think that she like fell over the side or something. And they see this man with a rock over his head, pounding it in her head. And they, you know, call the police and rescue her and they're wrapping up her head. And she says, you know, it was my husband and they actually got the rock, everything. So he's on trial right now. And his defense is saying that she attacked him first before anybody could see it. And she was attacking camp and he was defending himself with pounding a rock into her head as she laid on her back and he was over her. I mean, are you kidding me? So, um, just absolutely horrible. So that's a juicy crime. That's hopefully he will get convicted and thank God for those two women that were, that saved her life. And, um, so there you go with that. Well, Natalie Grace, the, one of our favorite stories about the Ukrainian orphan who had a rare form of dwarfism whose parents adopted her thinking she was nine, but then they believed she was really 21. There's been several movies made about it. There's been several documentaries about it after she was living on her own. And she said she was nine. Some said, no, maybe she was 13. Others said, no, she was 23. We still don't really know. And, you know, Dr. Phil is interviewed or everybody's interviewed. She then made some other friends that took her under their wing and adopted her. And they thought, oh, you're just taking her so that you can get her, her benefit checks. Then she turned on those people and said they were awful. They weren't good. She is now suing Disney who owns Hulu for defamation in her good American family series. That was the one that was scripted on Hulu, which was very good. And it did show all the different sides of the story. The mom who adopted her, her ex-husband who was, you know, they got divorced during that time. You saw his perspective. You saw Natalie's perspective. And then you also saw the other family that took her in, their perspective and what might have been going on there. So I don't know how she could win this. It was a very public story. She still believes that it is defamation because she believed that she was, that it showed that her accusation by the adoptive family of pretending to be a child trying to kill them is not true. And therefore she should, she is suing for defamation. I'm kind of interested to see it, but I think maybe because, maybe because she was never like arrested for anything. Maybe that is where the fine line is when you're, when a story is made about you, because it isn't like you're, you're taking from the trial. You're sort of gathering all the information from these other people. I don't know. I don't know. Put someone, someone took on the case. 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And Jojo was in an interview and she said, I was pretending to be someone else for a long time. And she now says, according to this clip, that when she'd be like guzzling the alcohol or the vodka or whatever on stage, that it wasn't real. But I mean, I remember there was that whole story of where they saw her getting really drunk at Disney World and she was wearing her crossing guard look that she had bedazzled. And so I'm like, I do think she had some boozy times. But I think then she would go on stage and do it as far as like this bad girl persona, you know, lesbian drinking young girl. And now she's just like, no, I like having my boyfriend and she does call him her partner, which is nice. But she just, you know, I have a great partner and that was just like all in act. And I, where do you go from here? Because I'm like, you know, the music wasn't like great. And the dance, I mean, it was just, I don't know, I kind of missed the craziness. Speaking of crazy, Brittany did a real weird video with her son. It was nice that the son came to visit, but it was strange. I don't know if he's hanging out with her because, you know, yes, he loves her, but he doesn't need to post videos. Maybe he's looking to become an influencer himself or a musician. And he's like, I might as well use my mom's, you know, following to get people to follow me. Both the boys are like good looking. And I know one is very into music. But she's, you know, wearing a weird outfit and she's like, I want to talk like this. I want to talk like that. And they're like showing, you know, like these weird clips of the video. And then she's, she's wearing a very skimpy outfit and she's like, I'm your little sister. And then she's pounding like, like she's trying almost like, like trying to hump her son. And it was, it's weird. It's really weird, but it was nice of him to stop by and film it for her. Speaking of father and son and family. Well, Arnold and his son, the one who he had with the housekeeper, one of the greatest infidelity stories of our time crossing from Hollywood to the Kennedys because his wife, Maria Shriver is a Kennedy as well. And they lived in Brentwood. And she found out later that he had fathered a child with their housekeeper that was still working for them, which is really the most shocking part of the story is that you're sleeping with the boss and you still, and you have his kid. And then you have to get your like a boy to watch him while you go all the way to Brentwood and watch the other kids and fold the clothes. Anyway, once it all came out, Arnold, I don't know if he was into being his dad prior to the scandal, but they are very close. And he has been on Dancing with the Stars and he has, um, his name is Joseph Bainna. He just won his first, um, bodybuilding competition just like Arnold did. That's how Arnold got his start. And they are just two peas in a six pack pod. I mean, they're just like having a great time. And it's really kind of lovely. Like, I think they get along great. And hopefully, you know, he's got a good relationship with his other kids, but this is what could happen. Such a scandal and look at them now, you know, doing pull-ups together and, and, and going to the gym, going to Gold's gym and sharing stories about, you know, what kind of supplements and why creatine is important. I think it's cute. Justin Timberlake is supposedly in talks. This is coming from Vegas news, uh, to maybe have a residency. Like I said, he was the most delightful of celebrities that get pulled over for a suspected DUI that anyone we've ever seen, I think on, um, you know, on the cameras, bodycams and I think that'd be a fun, um, residency. JLo is finishing up hers and a lot of videos have surfaced and that girl is working her ass off. Now, many would say she still doesn't sound that strong vocally, but definitely a fun show and like fun to look at. But it's a little, it's a little, little Lou Anish. I would definitely say it feels, you know, doing like cover, you know, cover songs of other people and just filling out that show. But, um, I don't know if anybody saw it, but I don't know if it's going to come back. I don't know if hers coming back. I'm kind of bummed. I, I didn't see it. Chris was supposed to, Chris and I wanted to go do that together. I also want to say on my Patreon, I did reveal that Chris and I, um, that I was rage texting Chris, um, over the week because he had me watch is this thing on with Will Ornette and I mentioned it on my Patreon and a lot of people also went to watch that movie on Chris Frengel's recommendation and are equally as pissed about not getting that time back in their life. He will be on, um, shortly on the show in like a week and we will, we will address all the disgruntled people and why at the time he thought it was good and what the circumstances were around it. Now I'm very excited because I really had a fun, fun conversations. There's a new show called overboard, which is a very fun concept of dating. And I had the pleasure of talking to some of the cast and it's pretty funny and they didn't know what hit them when I was asking them the question. So I think you guys will enjoy it. And here we go with the cast from overboard. Hi, Heather. Hi. Hi, you guys. So I've, uh, got to see some of the show and I love the concept. And I think it's really fun that you guys did it. What was, what made you decide to want to do a dating TV show? Uh, I mean, me personally, it was, it was right after I'd kind of phased out of, uh, the business that I was running and I was kind of doing a little bit. I had a vodka sales for company. Uh, and so I didn't really have a ton going on. I had my social media that I was kind of doing a little bit, but I, it kind of just fell in my lap. I got, I got a random text from a random number while I was actually at stage coach last spring and it was just like, do you want to be with hot sexy singles on a yacht this summer? And I was like, yeah, that sounds great. Absolutely. They signed me up, but it was a random number. So I was like, okay, this kid also be spam. Like, but I was also like, I hope it's real. Like, I want this opportunity. Sounds great. And it ended up being one of the casting directors. So, um, yeah, I kind of just, I kind of just fell into my lap. You know what? That's the joy of being a man, which you probably don't realize is that like, if a girl got a random text, come on a yacht, it's like, you're going to do bye. And someone's going to, you know, shit on you and you'll never come home safe again. But as a guy, you're like, fuck yeah, I've got nothing to worry about. It's like, stop me up. Yeah. You'll never realize what it's like to, to be. So you guys, um, are very young. How old are you? I'm 27. I'm 30. And so had any, so no one had ever approached you for like the bachelor or the love island or anything like that. It never did ever curtain you before this. No, I applied, but never was like the same process of like going through like with love overboard where it's like, you're going through all the interviews, you're going through the, the tests and everything they have for you. So like this is like the first time full extent of like casting. I had had some inquiries, like through like the DM request for like love island, other reality shows, bachelor, bachelorette. Um, but I never, I, the only one that I actually did, I did like some casting process with, I think was for the bachelor or the bachelorette. I forget those. That was a few years ago, but. Have you ever dated anybody in real life that had been on one of those shows? No, never been a turnoff. If you would it be a turnoff? It's a turnoff for me now living it. I'm, no, I couldn't do it. You're now a still girl's like, Oh, two years ago I was on love island. You'd be like, not interested. I know I'm like, I have to watch. I can go on and watch you be like intimate and like in love with a whole another person. It's kind of just like, I rather not. No, I don't, it's not a huge turnoff to me. And it's also like, I just went on a dating show and a reality TV show. So that's what I'm saying. Like, I can't like, you know, I can't like necessarily like hold that against the person. I just did the same thing. So. Yeah. So that's all about the person at the end of the day. You know, how did they let you know that one part of the show was the possibility that you're going to have to walk this plank and jump in the water. Now you both seem like athletic guys. So that probably wasn't that scary, but did it, did it make you nervous at all when they said that? I was beyond scared. Honestly, I was beyond scared. I'm scared of heights and swimming in the middle of the ocean kind of scares me too, because I don't know what's in the water. So like I was already like, Oh my gosh, like why are we at the fall in this ocean? And I don't even know how high the drop is either. And I'm like, I don't know what it takes to save you from that plank. And like, cause it is all like first, everyone just tells us like right after like, Oh, this is what you're about to do. So we don't even get the plan or like really be like, Oh, soak it in. It's more like we're getting on the boat. This is what the challenge is. It's the eight through Z like you don't get to like plan or know anything or any. It's all surprised. So it's when we're out there. Yeah. They, they, they told us or I guess they showed us like, it was like first plank ceremony when it was James, uh, Reese and Lexie. And we all walked to the back of the boat and we just saw the two planks and we were like, what the fuck is that? And then Gabby kind of explained it. And then we, everyone kind of pieced everything together. We're like, okay, this is how you get eliminated from the show. Um, but yeah, I was terrified of that. Mike, I'm heights are like my number one fear. So every time I had to get up there, like my legs were like quivering. I like couldn't think straight. Like the, the one time I had to give the speech to like Gia, it was really hard to like formulate sentences, but, um, yeah, I mean, crazy aspect to the show. And had you ever been in that part of the world before? I didn't even know where Malta was, honestly, until like two days I looked it up and I was like Malta, I guess, I mean, it's not going to change me not going, but I don't even know where that is. Um, I, I had been, I studied abroad in, in Europe. I was, I was in Madrid for a while. So I got to, I got the opportunity to travel through Europe. So, uh, somewhat nearby. Yeah. Cause that was gorgeous. Like out of, I mean, that would have been real out of all like the type of shows that do that. I thought being in that big yacht and where you guys were was a top notch. Like in my opinion, to the other dating shows. No, I'm not amazing. Yeah. The one thing I wish those, I mean, it kind of double edged for it. Cause I was on the boat for the majority of basically the entirety of the show. So I didn't really get to experience like Malta as it's, you know, as, as a country, but like a few times that we got to go off the boat and like the couple of days that we had after filming, it was incredible. Beautiful. So when you guys first arrive, you don't know the format of the show, which is a very fun and unique formula, which is if you pair up, then you get to stay in the suites above deck. And if you don't have a partner, you, you're working like below deck. And I thought that was like so clever. And you guys didn't know that, but when you walked in, did you immediately like kind of lock eyes with certain girls that you're like, okay, these would be my top three. Well, yeah, because me, Tim and Karai were like the first ones to jump off the tender to go into the boat. So like we got the first like meeting with all the girls when I walked, I was like, there's so many beautiful women, but like that one was just like illuminating like it's like slow mo. And I was like, Oh dang, like, who is that one out of everybody? And I was like, yo, that might be my first and like, cause everything felt like it was like slow mo when I walked onto that boat and like all these gorgeous girls, but that one like highlighted her. It was like, Oh, I need to talk to her. I don't know. I don't care what nothing else on this show. I would need to talk to that one. Yeah. And yeah. So when we got off the tender, they had me go up first and I didn't know what was happening. They were just like, walk. They were like, go that way. And I had no idea what I was walking towards. I didn't know the girls were already on the boat. And so obviously like first day of filming, like first experience like this, like I'm a little bit overstimulated and I walk back. There's all these cameras, all the girls. So I was like, I couldn't even like, you know, put like a face to the name. I was just like kind of hugging everyone. I was like saying hi. Um, and then just kind of as I got through the crowd of girls, I was, I was closer to that, to Anna. Um, so initially that was, that was who I was looking towards, but I had noticed Gia, cause I think Gia was the, one of the first girls that I hugged. I was like, Oh, that girl's really pretty too. Um, and then obviously as, as time progressed, you get more time with everybody. And so when you, they pair you up and you guys that night are sharing a bed. Yeah. Pretty much immediately. Yeah. We did like the toaster toss ceremony as like the first pairing up. Um, and yeah, I was, you started, you started top side too, Jan. Right. Yeah. No, I was down side. We were down side. Well, that's what Lexi, Lexi obviously, at that point, I'm like, I'm going home. Like the girl I want is taking, I'm over this shit already. Like let's send me back home. Like the one I want is already coupled up. I'm like, I don't know the concept of the show. So I'm like, I'm, I'm petty. I'm like, send me home. My girl is gone already. So I'm, I'm over it now. No, I was, yeah, I got matched up with Anna and then like they threw us into the room and I was just like, okay, we were just sharing a bed. Like I just, I just, I was slightly uncomfortable, but, um, but no, yeah, it was, it was really fun. And it was amazing too. So I, her and I were super comfortable with each other. So, uh, but really crazy. You just like meet each other and then like you're sleeping in the same bed together. Fuck's. And like, what did your family, did anybody in your family think it was a bad idea to do a show, like a big show like this? My family was like, I mean, it's always fit like my personality. Like I've always had an outgoing personality. So it made sense. But like to be like, you're leaving tomorrow to Molta and like your phone's getting taken, like you're going to fall off the earth for a whole month. Basically, they were like, Oh, whoa, whoa, this is crazy. Even me, I was like, I'm not going to have a phone, no contact. And I literally like a whole month. You just don't hear from me. So like a lot of my mom was just like, hold on, what? We don't hear from you. But me, I'm like, I'm going like, I got to see what's out there. Like I got to experience this. Yeah. My, my, my parents were just like, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Lean into it and be yourself and do it or whatever happens, happens. But like, you know, not many people can say that they have the opportunity to go on a boat and Malta for four to five weeks. So you might as well do it. I'm honestly kind of jealous of the no phone for a month. I loved it. Honestly, I loved it. It was fun. You know what I mean? Like, cause you have no, you have no choice. Like, I mean, of course, if something happened, just like a big brother, they would get ahold of you or whatever. But also just not to be looking at like the news of the world and, and following other people and what they're doing and what you're not doing. Like that must be a really like healthy. It felt peaceful because you enjoy like a conversation with people and like enjoying the scenery and eating dinner together and like talking about normal things and like, well, this is what life was like before people had phones. Like I would rather go back to this than having this phone because everyone's scrolling, like it was more focused on relationships and building relationships with each other. Yeah. Just, it just made it a lot easier to just be like present, you know, and there was, there was a certain point, like, I think like three weeks into filming where they gave us our phones to like upload some photos that we had taken or something like that. And everybody was like, no, like, please like hold onto them. We don't want our phones. So it was, it was really refreshing. It was nice. Has it changed the way you are with social media and your phone today? Or did you just go back and I think I have a worse addiction. I'm worse now, but I wish I was still back in Boston with no phone, but it obviously real life. You can't really do that, but I wish I could. Well, it was really nice talking to both you, James and Tim. You guys are adorable delights. I don't know if you end up in love, but I'm sure a lot of 40 bitches will be in your DL. How are you guys? I'm a good, uh, we're excited to talk to you. Yeah. Oh, good. Good. Well, you're both so gorgeous. I'm curious what made you decide to do this dating show? Well, it just happened to me kind of by chance. I am a proud love Island reject. I went all the way to Fiji left my job, stayed there for a month, only to be sent home, which seemed like the end of the world until someone from the casting called me for this show. And I was like, I'll do it. Sure. Um, and it was just so much better. I'm like so much happier that it happened this way. And I'd rather be on a yacht than like sleeping in the same room as a bunch of people and it was just amazing. So I was like, why not? Let's do it. I'm 30. Let's just do something crazy. Yeah. And, um, what was your background before? Are you a model or what was your relationship with entertainment? In my mind, a model in my mind. Now I've done like a little bit of like modeling type stuff, but I'm was like corporate girly. Um, I did marketing for a long time in the medical space, work for plastic surgeon, worked in orthodontics. And then I kind of transferred over to medical recruiting. Um, and then I had that job until I left the job and I haven't worked in almost two years actually. And so I'm just so blessed to have this opportunity and kind of pivot. And I think this is what I'm just meant to be doing. Oh, so you want to be doing more in this space now? Depends on what it might be. Um, but I'm open. Yeah. And I still want to find love too. So we'll see you now. Yeah. And Lexi, what's your background? Um, my background is assistant work. I was at a tech company before now. I'm at a law firm. I kind of jump around, but, um, ultimately for me, I saw multiple. I saw Euro summer. I saw fun challenges, fun dating. It didn't run. You read it. It was kind of like, you didn't have to go there and find a man. Like it was kind of just up in the air of what it was going to be. So I think that's what was exciting for me. It was, I just wanted to go and have some fun and Alex Cooper's name was tied to it. So it was like, okay, trusted. And so I was excited. I just wanted to go have fun, which I did. And what was your like family's reaction? Were they excited for you or concerned at all? You know, because it's a little risque. I'm a family girl from a small town and my family really, really does care about what I do and how I present myself pride. And so I was a nervous, but when they know me, they're like, like, Lexi's going to do what she wants. She's going to go. She's going to, and once we saw the first episode, they were like, exactly. Like we knew that would be you. So I'm glad that there was no surprises. And my dad even called me was like, I'm proud of you. So as much as I was so nervous and I was like, I can't let them see this. I love that I have their support and they're just working me through no matter what I do. So I killed it. Killed it. Crushed it. Killed it. I mean, all the people in the show are extremely attractive and everyone looks great in a bikini, but you know, was there any time that you felt like I haven't shit in three days and I need a de-blote pill because I have to be in a bikini tomorrow on a yacht. Definitely felt that way for sure. I mean, we have a girls room because. Yeah. Yeah. Resolved. Like, okay. I think I got pulled aside by another, so many that was like, I can't shit in here in front of him. Like he was just like one of those things where it was like, we had no privacy. So we kind of figure it out and yeah, and we did. No, me and Tim would wake up in the morning and then we'd be like, okay, we would shake hands and be like, let's depart ways for like 10 minutes. And then let's circle back at breakfast, have a cappuccino ready for me. Yeah. And it really took me like four days to realize I'm like, we're going to stay fit like disappear too forever for like, like what's happening? And he was like, I'm serious. This man wouldn't even blow his nose in front of me. I'm like, every like, babe, it's fine. Oh, I used the captain's bathroom. So. Oh, you just joined Isabella is you're my favorite princess. You're hilarious. It was, I love that you were in tears and crying about it because I felt that was extremely honest when you realized that you were going to be working below deck. Oh my gosh. I'm so, so sorry. I'm like, what's going on? We're having a little bit of tech difficulty. Okay. Did you hear what I said or no? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Like, what, um, what was the question? I'm so sorry. I said, you were so upset. You were so crying. And I loved your honesty where you're just like, you know, obviously you're not somebody that grew up camping or anything like that. And I, I loved the honesty and just you were horrified that you had to like do any kind of housework for other people. And even for yourself, you said you didn't. So how did you get over that? Um, I had a cow girl up. You know what I'm saying? Um, that's actually like a term that my dad used to tell me because I have always been this way. Like when I was a little girl, it would be like the argument that kids would usually have with their parents. I don't want to eat my broccoli or like, you know, like, or I want to go play with my friends and mine was like, I don't want to clean this room. I don't want to pick up my toys. Um, and especially when my friends came over, I didn't want to pick up after them. And I didn't want to pick up after any of the other people there because I'm like, number one, y'all just rejected me. Number two, I like don't even like, I don't even pick up on myself. Y'all, after y'all? Absolutely not. So I think it was, um, a good balance of me trying to realizing that, oh, like, I think people are like expecting me to actually do this. So I would do it. Um, but yeah, other than that, I just had to lock in pretty much. Well, it was pretty entertaining to watch. Now listen, girls, you get matched with a guy and now you're sharing the bedroom with him. Um, were you all quick to bone, dry hump only put the pillows in between you? How does this work? I think Lexie should take this first. Um, what? Who did the deep first? I don't know. Who did? You came out the next day. No, it was like two days. It was like two. Um, I think we all just want to take it at our own pace. There were some girls that put a pillow between. There were some girls that never did it. There were some people that did. It was kind of just, you know, whatever you feel good. Hey, Grom, he's 30 years old. So it's fine. I think it's all good. I like it. Oh wait. Now you're back. I'm asking about how long did you wait before the first phone? Oh, what? I think it just goes away. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm here. Yeah. Same. We're, we're here, but, um, for me, I was actually like, prove James cause I didn't fuck on camera, but I support the fuck. I support the not fuck. I support whatever you want to do, but I don't support being bashed for not doing it. So that was like, when you're on the polar opposite end of the spectrum, it's like, judge Val and David. So like, why would they judge you on the other guy? Yeah. We were doing in the 15 second. Yeah. Literally, at least I like, dipped my toe fully into the water of the show before I did. But also it's like no judgment. It's like, I, what do you mean? I, it's just like, can we each do a little judgment because it was the guy I was coupled with, but other than that, for you, like for you, for you fucking like, no, I don't give a fuck. Fuck in the first five minutes. Yeah. No judgment if you're not judging, but judgment if you're judging. I hate you. It was also just so weird having sex there too, because it's like, you're not in your normal environment. Like this is weird, but like your relationship is just so accelerated. Like an analogy I like to use is like, what if you dated someone long distance and you guys have been dating for too much, you might literally only see that person for like 20 hours. If you combined all those times where they flew you out, like 20 hours, that wasn't the first thing you were with these people. So it's almost like you had six dates and it's only been one. You know, maybe that's the calculations Val was doing or something and why she did what she did. I don't know. Um, but I was just, I was never good at math anyway. So I'm not sure. One of the things that I, um, enjoyed talking about with the guys, prior to you guys is I was so jealous about you not having a phone for a month. Did you enjoy that freedom of like not looking at your phone, news, texting, all of that. I almost enjoyed it too much to where like when I got back and me and James were like still dating, I was like, wait, I don't want to touch my phone. I like, I know we're dating, but I just don't want to be on my phone. So it was tough. I go to no distractions when you're getting to know. So I used to not having my phone that when it was my connecting flight, me and Lex were connecting. No guys. I was used to not having my phone. Me and Lexi got hammered at the airport and we had a connecting flight in Germany. I leave my phone in Germany and fly the entire country or the entire world. Yeah. Go back to LA. I don't have a phone or anything. So I'm like, I'm at the airport with like five luggage bags and I have to take a taxi back to my house and it was bad. It was bad. I was like, what do we do? We tried to contact as many people as we could to be like, she was landing at this time. I swear. And then I just, my whole phone's loaded. Like, is she okay? Is she okay? I'm like, you know, when Tim, Tim, really, this is the shit I'm going to have to fucking deal with. Yeah. Take it or leave it. Yeah. So it seems like that you guys really made some great friendships with each other. Among the girls. Yeah. That's all really cool. I love my girls. I would get flanks all over again and played and embarrassed and whatever you want to get back at me. Oh my girls. And it's funny because remember Gio and me and Leah toasted. I said, cheers to finding our men. And even if we don't, we have each other. And that's how it's been like that was some foreshadowing right there. Because we have each other. I love you guys so much. I learned so much about platonic friendship. It would be a show of like all those girls and just plinking them in. Like, yes. Oh, and bringing a new batch. While you're at it. I love that. And then when you talked about having so much luggage, I mean, how do you pack for a month? And we're going to be on TV and bikinis and all of that carefully, very, very, very carefully and strategically. So it's funny because bikinis are like this small. So usually you're like, oh, I only need to bring one bag. I had like six bags full of bikinis. Imagine how much like, no. I should have what I thought about was the fact that like you and I guess other people like C2 shit, like you guys didn't even get to wear half your because you were in the uniform. Like how'd that make y'all feel? The last I literally number one, I should have packed less because all my stuff was all over the room. And then it was bad. Like it was no, like it was. No, I think when it home, then I, I was paired to go stay in her room. Cause it was okay. It was such a mess that she was like, I don't even want to clean it. I just should go home. Well, you guys, I, you either, no, that's the new, that's the new thing that I'm going to say is like, I didn't want to clean my room. So that's why I went home. Cause I, yeah. Good. You guys are all so beautiful and funny and sweet. I love that you guys form such great friendships. The show is very fun. And thank you so much for talking to me. Thank you for having us. Much success. You're welcome. Thanks. Inspired by jet engine silences. The Dyson Hushjet Purify powerfully purifies the entire room quietly. Capturing pollen, allergens and pet dander, removing odours and harmful gases such as NO2 day and night. Hushjet, powerful, compact purification. That's quiet.