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So when I used to take phone calls on my show, which was mostly ESPN days, then when I started doing it as a TV show and a radio show, I was like, TV shows don't take phone calls, but for years. So I stopped taking them for a while on the Patriots because every single caller was, they're cheaters. So what has happened in America, Danny, is collective amnesia. So during the Patriots run, and I think I was the biggest pro Patriots supporter or defender during their run on national radio. Obviously, the Boston radio guys were mostly in support of it. There was Spygate 1. They lost a first round draft pick and the coach was fined half a million dollars. That's pretty serious. That's like Houston Astros level. You're losing top picks. There was Spygate 2, which people forget about, where they were fined and lost. And that was, by the way, in like the 2021, it was a Bengals-Browns game. They lost a third-round pick. There was Deflategate, where they were fined a million dollars and lost another first-round pick. When you have three gates on your resume, it is reasonable. I said this today on the show. If you have three asterisks, I think it's reasonable to ask, should we pause or collectively? Yet today, it is viewed as outrageous. If we go, you know, how about a little punishment? just wait for a year since, you know, Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, and Joe Gibbs had to wait five years to be eligible and still didn't get in in their first. So it's funny how the pendulum has swung. American sports fans, Danny, they want a happy ending. We know that movies do tests. People don't like negative endings. They get furious with the Patriots when they get in the way of Super Bowls and great seasons and get in the way of their team, Spygate 2 to Flategate. But they also don't like when you get in the way of Belichick's Hall of Fame voting. It's a sad ending because they don't want the turbulence. But it is as if there's a collective amnesia, is that literally the whole dynasty, Kansas City, it was rigged, their dynasty, because everybody loved Mahomes, so it's rigged. New England's dynasty is they're just cheaters. And today, when you suggest one year punishments, not the end of the world, people are outraged. It feels like collective amnesia to me. So there's obviously a ton of wrinkles to this story. And there's no doubt collective amnesia, like the same people who were outraged at the cheating are now outraged at the exclusion from the Hall of Fame. That is obviously logically inconsistent. but i do think it was ridiculous that he didn't get into the pro football hall of fame on the first ballot and i will tell you why in baseball there is a morality clause yes it is written into it there are like instructions impact on the game accomplishments morality integrity of the game the pro football of fame it just tells you who you can vote for there is no guiding principle by the way it's basically only fans with cleats and a helmet you could do anything you want you or no there's no guidelines and and and it's and i'm sure you voted for things in your in your career like yeah do you have a heisman vote i used to and i i thought it was so provincial and tribal it was ridiculous okay i just said this is stupid okay but the Heisman Trophy vote, there's like literally over a thousand people who vote for it. Yeah. So one vote is not that significant. Baseball Hall of Fame, a lot of people vote for it. Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's 50 people who vote. So one vote is 2% of the electorate. That is crazy. So exactly. So if you need 80%, that means you need 40 out of 50 people to agree. and i don't know if you've looked around the world recently we can't get 80 percent of people to agree on anything so so expecting anything to be unanimous is probably unreasonable in 2026 but the pro football hall of fame i think what has been cool about it is that it is the hardest hall of fame to get into because of that like it's you know guys have to wait years there's a long jam at positions there's coaches and contributors and then the first ballot guys and then the the senior committee but it all comes down to this like five person hall it's very difficult hall of fame to get in but like there is still some guys that just pass the test of since it is a meritocracy because there is no voting uh guidelines oh randy moss's first ballot he just you say randy moss he's first ballot and i think bill belichick for all of us reached that threshold bill belichick most super bowls most playoff wins second most regular season wins if he can't be first ballot who is and then you get the bill polly and nonsense of great journalists say he was leading a campaign against them and then he gets contacted and he's like i honestly don't even remember who i voted for and it's like well wait you're two percent of the electorate and you claim you don't know who you voted for that is obviously problematic and then i don't know if you saw uh he's a buddy of mine vahe gregorian he's the only person and if i've missed it in the last hour i apologize but it broke just before i went on the air at five eastern vahe gregorian posted his column in the kansas city star he used to work for the st louis post dispatch then he moved and worked for the kansas city star so he's been a midwest reporter and columnist his whole career uh my friend therese paler who wrote for the star and yahoo tragically passed away a few years ago at way too young of age he had a hall of fame vote when when therese past Vahe Gregorian took the Kansas City vote and he posted a column I would vote uh I forget what the headline was exactly I want to get it want to get it exactly I just want to have it correct because I remember the argument I want to get the headline Bill Belichick belongs in the Hall of Fame but here's why I didn't vote for him and he said it didn't have anything to do with cheating and his argument which I do not agree with and he acknowledges in the column most people will not was basically a procedural issue that now the coaching candidate belichick the contribution candidate craft and the senior committee people uh lc greenwood roger craig ken anderson were all in the same pool and you could only vote for three of the five and vahe's deductive reasoning was well these guys craig he thought that craig greenwood and anderson all deserve to be hall of famers and on the senior committee it would be their last chance of being up because other people would come in behind him so he wanted to take like a last stand for these guys now i personally think that's ridiculous and not how i personally would vote because if they if they made it to the senior committee maybe they're not hall of famers like maybe they're right because they had to go through the whole yeah normal process the eli manning process that he just didn't get in all that vahe disagrees i don't have a vote he does it's worth two percent but so but so and he so he argues in the column he's like you basically had robert craft and bill belichick with the same accomplishments competing against each other so i went with the senior committee guys and i at least respect that he came out and said why he did it because everybody else seems to be running from the heat and so if every if 11 people came out and said steroids were my issue i want 11 people to stand on it instead we have one person saying i voted for the senior committee guys because of a procedural issue and one person saying i don't remember who i voted for so that's just it's not you and i are logic guys your argument of collective amnesia is logical my argument of hey this thing's a meritocracy he's the best to ever do it he has the most accomplishments there's no morality clause put his ass in the hall of fame like a one-year punishment feels trivial or whatever like i think both of our arguments are logical and i just don't i don't like that no one is no one has come out and said yeah he cheated so Biden vote for him. Still, that's ridiculous. We're just assuming like on his behalf and with some reporting from Seth Wickersham and Vanada, we're just assuming it's because of cheating. No one has said it's because of cheating yet. Yeah. And I've said I said today I would vote him in. I would have slept on it. If you have multiple asterisks, I think it deserves sleeping on it because I would take my vote very seriously, but I would have voted him in. But I get somebody who said Spygate, Spygate 2, Deflategate, multiple draft picks, three different times, multiple. Like, I get it. Here's the other thing. Have we undervalued Kraft? There is this sense. Well, owners. It's just they're whimsy. They're impulsive. I don't know. Parcells under Kraft got to a Super Bowl with Bledsoe. Belichick, Brady got to several. Vrabel Drake May. Okay, so Robert Kraft is responsible for a lot of Super Bowls. Jerry Jones' ego. Cleveland's Jimmy Haslam's dysfunction. It seems to me lost in all of this is, you know, Kraft is the one owner that negotiates for the league with the TV networks. meaning Roger Goodell selects one owner he trusts to call Fox, CBS, Amazon, Netflix. It's Robert Kraft. Robert Kraft has now been to more Super Bowls than like the Pittsburgh Steelers. Lost in this is a sense of, well, it was a Brady Belichick Super Bowl. Robert Kraft's probably, probably the best owner in the league. And listen, I think that he deserves to get into the Hall of Fame. I do too as well. And you mentioned other places that are dysfunctional. It, it, I don't know if he is excellent or if the billionaire class is just full of weirdos. Um, because the guy in Buffalo, Pegula, he speaks at that press conference to justify the firing of Sean McDermott. and he's like well i didn't even consider firing him and then we had a playoff game where we turned the ball over a bunch i thought we won because of the catch no catch call and then i saw my guys crying in the locker room so i fired the coach it's like what like wait you thought you won your quarterback was crying because he felt he let the team down yeah your defense gave up a lot of points but you also turned the ball over a lot that led to quite a few of those points like that's why you fired the coach and it's weird because i actually think that what they did was totally reasonable like in terms of the actions promoting joe brady young offensive guy young play caller familiarity with the quarterback hiring a young defensive coordinator from the broncos younger minds all that i felt like that was if pagula had never spoken i'd be like oh yeah good moves by buffalo but because he did i'm like well there was no rhyme or reason to any of this and we just i do think that there are exceptions to the rule like robert craft is the exception he seems to be exceptionally competent um biscotti when he spoke about the firing of john harbaugh In Baltimore, he seemed, here's how I communicated it. Here's why I did it. Here's my plan. Here's why I was disappointed. And it was just like, oh, I get it. I get why that guy is great at what he does. But it seems like that's fewer and further between because you've met more billionaires than I have. They seem to be odd ducks. Yeah. I don't know that. You know, like if you're a tech billionaire, I don't know that that means that you are terribly qualified to run a basketball team or, you know, or I don't know that the skills necessarily translate in all of these walks of life. Well, it always feels to me if you own a local sports team, it's a it's a public good. It's a public trust. It is different. It's different than owning a tech company. There is a responsibility to do well by your local citizenry. They're paying often some of the, you know, the bond payments. They're paying for some of the stadiums. They're paying enormous amounts to support your franchise. You know, very rarely does the owner, the billionaire owner pick up the entire tab on a stadium. So, I mean, it's a public trust, a public good. So I think there's some really good owners and I think there's a lot of egos. And, you know, we've discussed that before as they're all billionaires. Now they used to be millionaires and it's just different now they're more impulsive and more willing to just blow stuff up i mean we had 10 coaching openings this year and i think four of them came as a massive shock it's like what so usually there's like one you're kind of surprised by it's like almost half you're like what in the hell is going on the you know the um it really is interesting about um when you look at the Patriots dynasty, and I've said this before, is men are great at starting things. Every guy's got a great pickup line, but we won't pick up the phone when we break up. We're terrible at endings. And Kraft, I mean, there was some bumps before this. Belichick has been really choppy But you know who ended really well Brady and my takeaway on all of this is you know I mean you remember the where Kraft got caught up in a situation where massage parlor, you know, is really, really bad, tawdry. And then Belichick's been a bit of a mess in his personal life, whatever. I'm not judgy on that. But lost in all of this is how effing great Tom Brady is. So nobody would dispute that every great coach, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Walsh, Chuck Knoll, they've all had a great quarterback. But if you take away that quarterback from their resume, they still win about 50% of their games. Bill Belichick's winning percentage is below Jerry Glanville if you take out Brady. And I think the greatness of Brady is that it's almost how I consider my wife. She just takes care of everything in the house. She corrects things and solves things. They don't even get to me. That Brady, during that 20-year run, you never credit the president who avoids the disaster because you don't know about it, right? I always said this, one of the things about Obama when we went into that recession, it could have been a depression, but we somehow wiggled out of it. And you don't get credit for avoiding the depression because it never happened, right? And my wife, the household would be in disarray once a week if I ran it. She doesn't get credit for the disaster she avoids. Brady was so fundamentally sound, so detail-oriented, there were almost no bumps. I mean, you go 20 years and did they have a three game losing streak. It was like, it just never happened that in all of this craft, Belichick, Josh McDaniel, Brady, Charlie Weiss, you can take everybody. The one guy that comes out and you're like, man, he's doing better than ever is Tom Brady. Yeah. He seems to have his stuff together. pretty pretty pretty accomplished guy pretty pretty successful and the is it more brady or is it more belichick debate ended yeah with tom and tampa yeah right obviously it it ended but also we should have just known a little better like like peyton manning went to four superbowls with four different coaches right right because because he's Peyton Manning like you know what I mean like there's a there's a stratosphere of guys they're like Mahomes obviously landed in a great situation got to sit for a year behind a very smart very talented former number one overall pick in Alex Smith who had been winning 10 or 11 games each year he got there he has Andy Reid great offensive mind travis kelsey tyra kill everyone knows that he landed in a great situation if mahomes landed with the bears he wouldn't be mahomes but he'd be awesome like you know what i mean like because because he's he's that guy like aaron rogers looked like he was kind of stalling out at the end with mike mccarthy gets a little bit of new blood with with matt lafleur two mvps immediately because he's awesome he's that guy and so there's those guys are just in a different stratosphere of people and we've talked about this before like to me the Andy Reid argument of why he is a better coach than Belichick it's he's never going to catch him in Super Bowls but the number of different quarterbacks with everybody that right that have had the best season of their career with Andy Reid it's literally more than a handful it's like Jeff Garcia's best year Kevin Cobb's best year Donovan McNabb Alex Smith on Shula got to a Super Bowl with Marino David Woodley and Earl Morrill yeah great coach great like and so like the belt like Belichick it is a classic when people talk about greatest of all time I honestly hate the conversation because I think that they are talking about greatest trophy case of all time right like top i am much more interested personally in the who the best of all time who is the most talented of all time because great brady is the goat in the common nomenclature the best winner the most trophies but like is he actually more talented than Aaron Rodgers? I actually don't think that he is. The stouting talent of it, I don't think that he is. Yeah. So remember, Tom was drafted in Major League Baseball. Tom's bigger athlete. He's 6'5". Aaron's 6'1 1⁄2". He's a more committed athlete like LeBron James, that matters too. I've always argued that Tom, because of the combine, no shirt on picture and because Tom's athletic gifts were not necessarily speed and twitchiness that he gets knocked. It's like, I grew up with Johnny Bench. Johnny Bench was the best catcher for 15 years. Yep. Watching him lumbered a second on a double was comedy. Like, I mean, it was, It was, you know, he'd been wearing the gear on an AstroTurf field for years. It was a hard watch, but he was unbelievable. The best arm, the best catcher, incredibly twitchy, hit for power, hit for clay. They were different kinds of athletes. Like Michael Jordan, to me, does things because of his hand size and vertical. LeBron can't do, nor Kobe. LeBron, because of his physicality, can do things. He's like a tight end in the NFL that Michael couldn't do. There's different levels of athleticism. Ja Morant has hops, but there's quickness, then there's speed. And so when I look at Brady, it's always like he did get drafted by a Major League Baseball team. And it should be noted, in the pocket, Brady was one of the great movers of all time. He threw the best because of his torque. He's incredibly strong, pound for pound. He threw the best snowball I've ever seen in my life. I mean, his ball cut through Foxboro wind and snow, like no quarterback, including Josh Allen. I've never seen anybody throw a ball in snow and wind like Brady. So I always think his athleticism, and so I always defend Brady. It can't all be who's got the biggest arm. Because Brady had a top six or seven arm, but he didn't have like Mahomes or Allen or, you know, Terry Bradshaw on his prime. He had a very good arm. He was drafted as a catcher in Major League Baseball. So, you know, all these conversations, like we were talking about today on the show, which I think is interesting. What do you do with Drake May now? It's like, oh, wait, Drake May is the most accurate and was number one on deep ball efficiency. And you're like, and he's really athletic. And what do I, Drake May is now a top, he's won 16 of 17 games. He's had like three bad halves in 17 games. So I think a lot of the drafting, if you've noticed this, by the way, is that Drake Mays got a stacked roster, actually. Bo Nix has a stacked roster. Caleb Williams has a stacked roster. Isn't it remarkable how good you look when you've got like eight offensive players who are good? And by the way, Josh Allen doesn't have a pro bowler on defense. He played from behind, like multiple weeks played from behind. And I'm just rambling here, but I guess I'm defending Brady on that. There's this picture of the combine that he's not athletic. It's like, no, Jared, Jared Goff. Isn't that athletic? Yeah, I think, and listen, that, that is true. And there are different kinds of athleticism and I am definitely guilty of it. The, whatever Brady lacks in the mobility off schedule, like the play breaks down, but I can still make a play that Mahomes, Allen, you know, Rogers, that those guys that I'm talking about, Caleb, that they can make he between the ears, you know, it's him and Peyton as the greatest ever do it. And that matters. Shitload at that position, it's just like, oh, well, that actually might be more valuable than everything. And it's like, I do tend to underrate like, or be late to come around on a guy like Brock Purdy, who it's like, okay, well you were limited and where you were drafted and physical. And like, I don't think he's spectacular in the situation that he's in and all that, but it's like, well, damn. Okay. He, he keeps putting up these numbers. There's something too. He's pretty smart. He knows where to put the ball. And I'm not saying that Brock Purdy and Tom Brady are the same guy, but I do think that It's just like it's a tougher trait to scout than 6'4", 4'4", 40 rocket arm who can throw it over a mountain. Like those things are easier to scout than those guys. But I agree with you, Tom Brady, pretty successful guy. Today's show brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, Florida's sportsbook. The big game matchup is set, Patriots, Seahawks. Hard Rock Bet, going to be a lot of different ways. You can get it on next Sunday's action. If you haven't signed up with Hard Rock Bet, never been a better time. This week, launching a brand new welcome offer for new customers. Plus, Hard Rock Bet is kicking off its $7 million big game bonus party available to all users. You're definitely not going to want to miss that. 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You know, it's just like, it's kind of safe, but it got me on something that, um, I don't have, I'm not a pet peeve guy, but I don't like so I watched a movie with my wife the other day and I make her commit to watching stuff with me so when she says hey do you want to watch Rip on Prime or Netflix it was Netflix Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and it was 90 minutes entertaining it was good fun and the critics came out and went well it did not elevate the genre and I'm like, critics panned it. It wasn't an inspired effort. And I'm like, listen, not every hire is Sean McVay. Not every movie is Goodfellas. Like, if you're an artist and you can line up a streaming venture called Rip with your buddy, Matt Damon, you do it and you get like a writer. You're like, not every, you know, there's, you know, wasn't it Van Gogh died poor and broke. We realized his talent later, right? Like, like, you know, we're late to a lot of things. And similarly, artists, sometimes they do stuff to just do stuff. They want to create movies. Not everything is a six year, not everything is goodwill hunting where you write it and rewrite it and rewrite it. And so my takeaway is defending the Steelers was, well, if you're not going to get John Harbaugh and Kevin Stefanski, he was with the Browns. He's not of you. Could it not be argued McCarthy's a B? I mean, you're not taking a risk. He had the number four offense with Cooper Rush starting five games and one receiver in CeeDee Lamb at one point in Dallas is that in the media, I'm guilty of this. I'm looking for flashy, fun, and inspiring. So when it comes in a little flat, my soda is a little flat. I'm like, do you got a bottle of the gun? The club soda in the gun. It's not bubbly enough for me. And I kind of feel like it's actually probably a B plus higher and I'm being too hard on it. So I, listen, I haven't liked Mike McCarthy since the 2014 NFC championship game. It's the worst coach game I've ever seen. And so I've held it against them and kicking field goals from the one yard line, giving the ball to Eddie Lacey instead of Aaron Rodgers, blowing a 16-point lead in the fourth quarter. It was bad. It's one of those. I think it's the worst coach managed game ever. I'm open to the possibility that I'm a little harsh on it. I do think only one ring with Rodgers for the vast majority of his prime is underachieving I do think the 6 record since the Super Bowl in the playoffs is uninspiring Some losses as a big favorite in the playoffs are uninspiring The game, Dallas Green Bay a couple of years ago against Jordan Love notably comes to mind. I thought I, and I, I just, it felt like offensive Mike Tomlin, high floor, low ceiling, underachieves in the playoffs that's what i said the offensive version of tomlin yeah okay and like so we're we were completely aligned and i just don't get why in this exact moment for them that's what they would want the last time the steelers had a losing record they drafted ben roethlisberger the next year they won 15 games two years later they won the Super Bowl 1969 famous they're 1-13 tied with the Bears for the worst record in the NFL win a coin flip for the rights to draft Terry Bradshaw five years later they start the greatest run arguably in football history win four of six Super Bowls like what is the possible value with an old roster that's expensive that's defensive laden to try to entice 42 year old Aaron Rodgers to get the bands back together with a guy he underachieved with in his prime to grind out another nine or 10 win season and a first round playoff exit when to me you know better than I do everyone's saying next year's quarterback class is the quarterback class you want a lottery ticket in I would be very interested in young coach with upside trading jalen ramsey trading tj watt being playing will howard like being bad by design and bottoming out for like taking some draft capital so that you can move around with whatever you get for watt and ramsey and other guys being bad this year and taking your shot on a young quarterback next year and mike mccarthy's just not going to do that it's just like because he is to your point a b he's too good he's gonna grind out depending on what you do at quarterback seven to eleven wins and i just there is value in being bad no one wants to hear it no one likes it and in pittsburgh it's apparently like the worst thing you could possibly utter but there is real value in being bad for a year and i know you can miss gotten a top five quarterback, but it's the only way to get an elite prospect at the position. And I just think now is so clearly the time for them to do it. Can I throw this? It's not a theory. I love geography. I love maps. I study cities. I'm weird that way. I like that stuff. Right. So Pittsburgh is very unique in that it doesn't really have a region. So if I say West, you're like Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles. If I say the Rocky Mountains, you're like Denver. If I say the Midwest, you're like Chicago. If I say the East, you're like Philly, Boston, D.C., New York. Pittsburgh's stuck. They don't really have a region. And there is a certain low self-esteem that never being bad because they're overlooked. They're overlooked. Cleveland has a little bit of this. What is Cleveland? I mean, if you ask some people in this country, what time zone is Pittsburgh in? People are like, if you go to the south, Nashville's the cool city. Atlanta's the big city. In the plains, it's Dallas. in the desert southwest, Scottsdale, it's Phoenix, Vegas. They don't really own anything. And so they suffer from a little bit of that sort of they've been overlooked. They don't, they're not, I mean, Philadelphia still can say, we win more than New York and Boston as we have greater history. In New York, we're richer. In D.C., we're more powerful. And Pittsburgh, we put french fries on our sandwiches. We it's and so I do feel there's this thing like we don't want to bottom out. We because our ceilings limited. We don't we don't want to bottom out. And they've always sort of had this. We don't want to be terrible like that. That's just something that you could just talk anybody in like like I don't know. I've always felt like Pittsburgh and I don't know. I've been to Pittsburgh twice. I've always felt it's one of those cities that kind of feels overlooked. that's why it's almost absurdly prideful that they would hire a Pittsburgh guy because nobody loves Pittsburgh like Pittsburgh and they're incredibly prideful. And that's a wonderful thing. Does that make any sense? Yeah. Listen, some of it, like the low self-esteem part, I think Pittsburgh people would push back on because they would see it as just civic pride. They love it. They're so, they're so proud, right? They're, they're yinzers. And, and listen, But I mean, I have a dear friend who Andrew Filippone who crushes it in those afternoons there and has had opportunities to move to bigger cities. No, he's great. And he says, you know, he's like, you know, he's a New York area upstate guy, but he's like, I moved here. I met a girl, fell in love, big fish, small pound, crushes it, go and visit him. Good cost of living, improving food scene, wild about their sports. He's wildly happy. Has a great time there. He was just in town this weekend for his 40th in New York, but it's just, they're, they love their sports so much. But what's weird about the football team is they say, I mean, I watched the whole Mike McCarthy press conference. They, we got to get that seventh trophy. You know, Mike Tomlin, the standard is the standard. They talk about excellence and they talk about this and they talk about the seventh trophy, but their actions are what you're talking about. their actions like i at willie cologne i sit next to him every day on first things first in the ot and i run this theory by him i'm like they should be bad this year like by design he's like they'll no one will go for it like we had he booked ben roethlisberger for us today he's like rebuild is a it's a swear word amongst dealers he's like he's like i talk about build like you can't even say rebuild and that i think part of it is mike tomlin's identity came into that family mean he's there for 19 years never has a losing season it's the first thing that people say about him so it becomes kind of the identity of the fan base but like it's that's not that valuable if you don't win in the playoffs it's not valuable at all it's quicksand right because like it's there well because well some people would say the goal is get into the tournament and then take your chances but that's more of a baseball argument because of you know 162 games and then you play best of five the worst team can beat the better team football's all single elimination so if you get in as a wild card team with the worst quarterback and have to play on the road you're probably gonna lose yeah and so badly yeah and then like turn around and be like i guess we got to draft kenny pickett like you know and and he was from fit from pittsburgh like went to pit and so i think that that part like yeah i could not care less than mike that uh mike mccarthy is a yinzer like that that that would disqualify him like if like if that's one of the first things people say about it's like yeah he grew up a steelers fan like that doesn't mean anything like that just it's that is not it's not gonna help you win games so i personally hated the hire but like you it is partly media bias easier to say but i would be fine risking the strikeout to take the swing on the home run and i just think mike mccarthy is such a safe single and especially at this like exact moment in time with the draft with no quarterback option in house with Aaron Rodgers at 42 years old the Steelers should try to be the worst team in football next year like that's that's what they should try to do can't say it publicly just do it but do it through your actions try to be the worst team in football and there's no way you will be with Mike McCarthy so as I'm watching the Bulls and LeBron's the best player on the floor for the first quarter and then the second best player for the rest of it. And he's in his forties. And I sat there and I thought, it reminded me of Brady. Oh yeah. When Brady quit, retired, it's not because he wasn't great. He was still a top five or six quarterback. In fact, I would argue until maybe a year or two ago, he still would have been a top 10 quarterback. He quit because of some personal stuff. Otherwise, I think Tom would have just kept playing. And I'm watching LeBron, who physically can still bully his way to 18 points easily. He's just, I mean, if you've ever been next to LeBron, I have multiple times. He is so big and so strong. And this league is young and skinny and European. And he can just literally, because he's such a great ball handler, he's a 1980s power forward who dribbles like a point guard. So he can always- He's a freak of nature. He's the greatest athlete ever produced. It's just ridiculous. So he could play for another five years and average at least 16 a game. And I've said this before to my wife. I can talk until I'm 80 and make really good money. I, at some point, vanity takes over and I will want to protect. I don't want to be on the air and literally, I mean, I need cue cards. My teeth are falling out. My prostate comes right down my right leg onto the floor. Like, I don't want that to happen. Graphic. Yeah. So my point being is you do start protecting your legacy. But I think it's harder than people think. That I'm watching LeBron and I'm like, he's in the arena. He's the most popular player in the arena. I mean, like flashbulbs. Oh, yeah. Everywhere you go. He's the best player on the floor for portions of the game in the first half. LeBron, I love you. Throw this, throw that. I think it's a lot harder to retire for the Brady's and the LeBron. It's easy for me to say, bro, hang it up. I'm at that game. I'm watching it. These are pro athletes. They're young and twitchy. He's better than all of them, except Luka. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, and this is like very reductive and I have stood next to LeBron a couple of times, but I do not know him at all. um he loves basketball like he's like oh man i am now the whatever let's call him the 17th best player in the league just to pick a random number that that's probably close yeah and but like but maybe he would hear that and think that that's insulting i have no idea last year he was sixth in MVP voting. So he's sixth and 25th, right? Whatever he was. I mean, he was still, I don't know if team USA wins the gold medal without LeBron James at the 2024 Olympics. Like he is still awesome. And you love basketball and you get paid $50 million to play the game. Plus it is a springboard for everything else in your life. I don't know why, why, why, why quit? like why why quit i don't really see any reason to do it like people are like i wonder if matt stafford is going to come back and i know he talked about retirement last year he just led the league in touchdowns and yards well at least with him he gets tackled yeah sure yeah that i could sure absolutely by the way it's reasonable to say uncle and stop at any point you don't want to do the travel you don't want to do the media you don't want to do the ice baths you don't want You know, Dave McMadaman, who covers LeBron pretty closely. I read that he's like, LeBron James stopped drinking during his rehab. I haven't known LeBron. He has a tequila company. He likes expensive wine. Like, maybe he just decides he doesn't want to quit drinking to rehab injuries anymore. It would be a totally reasonable stance for a billionaire to be like, I want to just be a billionaire. But he's still awesome. So he continues to do it. 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They'll be a little tight for the Super Bowl. They'll be a little bit tight, my guess is. Whereas the Patriots spent $250 million plus in free agency, they're older in some spots. Defensive line, they're a little older. You know, Stefan Diggs is a little older. They're a little old. Vrabel's been here before. Josh McDaniels has been here multiple times. That I think if there was a team that would be a little tight, it would be the younger first time for Darnold, Mike McDaniels. It would be the Seahawks. The other thing that I think is absolutely true, and you saw this with Miami and Indiana in the natty. When you tell young athletes, you may get blown out. Miami's first two series against Indiana, they literally bloodied the lip of Mendoza. They were like late hits after the week. It was so clear. Mario Cristobal had said, nobody respects you. They played angry for about a half hour and eventually were kind of won the war in the trenches, but Mendoza made the plays. And I look at this and I think, I think I may pick New England to win. less pressure, won 16 of 17, older team, really get, you're really playing. The underdog is such, remember the dynasty started with Brady being a 14 point dog to the team that everybody loved. Everybody wants Seattle to win. So there's that kind of, there's a little bit of a pressure on Seattle. You're the favorite and you're the popular team. and you look like not only a favorite, you're really more, you are more athletic. If you put in the tape of both, one is just wow. And one is, wow, they're really efficient. I really think I really think new England's going to be trouble for Seattle. Listen, I, I, they're, you know, it opened at three and a half and, you know, it went up to four and a half and maybe it'll hit five by game time. I bet Seattle immediately. I bet it as soon as championship Sunday ended at three and a half. And so I got, I got the good number. I think that they are better top to bottom. And I think, yeah, so I think they're better top to bottom. And I think that they are more tested. Like they came through the NFC West. They, new england came through this crazy easy schedule in the afc east and i think new england loses if bo nicks doesn't break his ankle and i think new england maybe loses to houston if cj stroud doesn't play the worst football game anyone's played in town like i i so i i personally that is not to say that i think that they are a fluke i would buy all of this i i loved drake may coming out of north carolina when i first saw him play a game against duke i argued on chicago radio i was Like Caleb's the guy, but the debate should be Caleb or Drake, not Caleb or Jaden. Like I love Drake may think he'll be a star. This is not an anti him thing at all. I just personally think that they, a lot of things have happened where they are like the team that is a year too early that woke up in the Superbowl. They do feel like they're a draft away from being final. Seattle is ready to go. In New England, their offensive line is a still a major work in progress. Correct. And so I just I think that this is which is like, oh, it's a very unfair. If I'm a Patriot fan listening to this, I'm like, well, screw you, man. Like, that's like an unfair thing to say because we are in the Super Bowl. But again, it's just a lot of things broke your way. That happens. It's single elimination football. It's pro sports. But like you played the easiest schedule. you had a path to the super bowl that was difficult in terms of the caliber of defenses you played and by the way your quarterback did struggle against those defenses he kept fumbling a lot he's got six fumbles in the playoffs three lost three recovered i think it's just hey you're a little fortunate to be here whereas i think seattle all year number one in blowouts number one in point differential only team that finished top three offense and top three defense blew out san francisco in the first playoff game like they have just been you know go wire to wire with the rams again in another class week 16 38 37 heavyweight fight classic the championship game against the rams 31 27 championship fight classic like they are more battle tested and they have more impressive blowout margin of victory oh we are in a different class of you games than new england has had this year so i i'm with the favorites and it looks like i'm with the public the concern for me like when you're talking about soft factors and confidence is sam darnold went from we don't trust you at all in any big games to oh wow good for you you just had the best game of your life in the biggest game of your life and now for two weeks that's all any he's like well say we can't doubt Sam Darnold can't doubt Sam Darnold anymore Sam Darnold and like throw a first quarter interception and you know all of a sudden like I'd be a little concerned about about that again but I I do think Seattle is the better team and I think a lot of stars have aligned like New England to me feels like they should have made it to the divisional round of the playoffs yeah this year and they're in the super bowl so hey they can win it no doubt but i still think seattle is like you play this game 10 times i think seattle wins seven of them yeah i do too i i i do too i'm just i'm you know again it's really early but if the number goes to five i'm like that's a lot of points that that's a lot yeah it's yeah it is it it is a lot of points I asked Albert Breer today. I said, Tom Brady was available on the market in 2020. Was it 2020? Yeah, it was 2020, wasn't it? You mean before Tampa? Right before Tampa, he was on the market for the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And two teams, Chargers Bucks were aggressively after him. Four years later, he was the fifth-best quarterback still in the league. Darnold was available to the market. And Breer's like, yeah, Minnesota and Seattle were it. And I'm like, the hell? Trust your eyes. Brady, Darnold, you're trying to make inexperienced small quarterbacks, franchise guys. And he said early evaluations die hard in this league. And so here's my question. Darnold wins the Super Bowl. where do you put him in the league what the hell do i do with darnold since his benching in carolina if you go back to that year 2022 he gets benched in carolina for the first time in his career november 27th he gets his job back from that moment until today he is the winningest quarterback in the league percentage-wise and the most 100 passing outings percentage-wise like okay we've got now four teams four years he wins the super bowl what the hell do we do with sam darnold i think so a couple things i think i think you it'd be very difficult to put him in like tier one like if you're gonna if it's gonna be Mahomes Allen Lamar Stafford like if that is your like your top five that I think most people agree on between talent and accomplishments and all that I think it's very very very difficult to say with one ring Stafford gets in there even though obviously lamar burrow and josh have no rings but again this goes back to our earlier conversation it's not just about who won the ring it's got to be there's got to be a blend of all of it but then i think that like it can be a personal preference game between six and twelve when you talk about drake may dac prescott caleb williams yeah yeah justin justin herbert you know like i think that i think it's totally reasonable for if he if he wins the super bowl and has a great game for you to put sam darnold into that conversation of player which is a remarkable come up like from what you were talking about and and the other thing because i did this on the show on on the monday after championship sunday we you're right first impressions die hard it's a good way to say it um but if you actually do go back and look at it it's like man we labeled this kid a bust because at 21 22 and 23 years old with todd bowles and adam gaze he wasn't able to save the new york right and then it's like oh well then he gets a he gets he gets to go that really stable great quarterback factory of championship carolina panthers with matt rule and he got a year before they brought in the one quarterback in his class baker drafted in front of him and so bake you know he plays six games and then it's It's backup for Kyle Shanahan, backup for Kevin O'Connell, but fortuitous injury. And first time he has, first time he gets to play for a real head coach. With real weapons. With real weapons. He wins 14 games. So I've been trying to think about who is that instructive for. I think Daniel Jones, it's instructive for. and while i am not the biggest fan and i know you probably aren't either because of size if i'm kyler murray's agent i'm like hey man i my guy's got talent but like can give give him something don't bet bet on the talent like is deshaun watson done like i i i think so obviously that brings in a different whole host of issues but like if sam donald sam donald's 28 years old If he wins his first Super Bowl at 28 and he has back-to-back 14 win seasons with back-to-back 4,000 yards, Matt Stafford didn't win a Super Bowl until he was 34. Like, we could be talking about top 10 quarterback Sam Darnold for the next decade. Well, yeah, and Seattle, because they draft so well, they're not paying anybody. I mean, JSN, they're not paying any of these guys. I mean, Charles Kloss, the left tackle. Gray Zabel's not getting paid. Most of their defense isn't getting paid. witherspoon's not getting paid i'm in maury the safety's not getting paid like demarcus lawrence has been a uh it's like a wildly dynamic player for his age but when you have a great general manager the truth is you can pay the quarterback a little more and you don't have a regression on roster like that's the problem with the bills they haven't drafted well enough defensively Yeah, or period. Yeah, they and like there's a big difference between paying a quarterback 65 million and 35 million. I can do the math. It's about 30 million dollars. you know that's that's two real starters like so sam darnold is a bargain uh for because yeah the best way to do it is if you can have drake may be a superstar on a rookie contract but the next best way to do it is to do it this way to have top 10 level production but pay him the whatever he is the 15th or 18th highest paid quarterback in football so he's set up for a long time and we just we all do it but we oh 22 year old kid goes to dysfunctional franchise plays for three years two years didn't save them you must stink like for some guys i'm sure for some guys it's obviously true but the guys to your point who are mobile are big have a big arm like that have all of the traits and don't seem to be like complete knuckleheads should probably not sell all of our stock in those players. And so I think, again, I think Daniel Jones is a pretty good example of that. Finally, my first winner in Chicago doesn't really bother me. I've come to the conclusion if it's like 25 or up, I'm fine. If it's in the teens and a little windy, it's brutal. But it's remarkable watching the reaction. Everybody in Chicago comes up to me and goes, how do you like your first winner here? And I'm like, I bought a coat. I'm okay. Like it's not good for you. yeah good for you i heard you though on tv when like the last weekend or whatever when it was a little cold yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah trust me we got 18 inches of snow out here in new york and it was real cold so like it builds character but it's still cold so you're still allowed to say it's cold but that's the thing like when it's cold there's football on i want to be inside anyway how did you how did you watch football when you could be golfing on the beach it's like i i would I wouldn't I just I'd be inside watching football anyway. Well, I think I've said this. The HUD levels are much higher in lousy weather. If you go to Seattle and Minneapolis and Chicago and Wisconsin and Philadelphia and Boston, Jerry Seinfeld always used to talk about the comedy jet stream. It's it's people read more. They get the joke faster in those cold weather city. Phoenix is not funny. It's obnoxious. Boston's funny. It's cranky. there is something to be said about the weather forces you indoors and you become more passionate fans buffalo 100 it's nothing against phoenix and houston but you can go outside i mean it's just it's just why stay indoors and watch tv in the spring we've talked about this in sports talk radio markets like the places that get the highest ratings that have the best they're all cold weather cities all of them yeah like you know the ticket in dallas gets big numbers or whatever total outlier. Like every other warm weather city, it's like, do you even care? Do you even care? You're out playing tennis. You're out golfing. You're out living like a cultured, well-rounded life. I have no time for that. And also people that live in Chicago and Philly and Seattle choose to live here. Like a lot of people live in Florida, no state tax, and it's good for your arthritis. Like not everybody loves it or the teams, right? Yeah. No, no, no, no question. Yeah. it's like you're in phoenix and you're like is that a charlotte hornets jersey like what is what is going on yeah no we definitely we're from these places and we choose to live in these places so there's a tremendous amount of civic pride that comes with it kansas city milwaukee buffalo my god like all those places they're they're crazy about their teams and that's why it's why they're my people all right buddy that was fun the volume I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. 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