Christian Gonzalez and Drake Maye Contract Talks // 5 Questions with Murray - 4/2 (Hour 3)

Is Felgren-Maz your favorite afternoon show? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Oh, Felgren-Maz. And Maz. How do you see this all shaking out, Greg? Is it possible for them to keep Owenu and Barmore at their current numbers and add Brown and add Gonzalez, money-wise? No. It would be unprecedented for the Patriots to do that, for the crafts to okay that. And my impression from being in Phoenix and around the team was that they know they're pretty much up against the budget right now. Now, I don't know if said budget also includes another big ticket item, like an AJ Brown, like Christian Gonzalez. I'm not sure about that. But let me propose this to you guys, because I think everybody's sort of working out the same timeline. What if the next three off seasons, as far as big moves, what if it's mapped out as AJ Brown this year, Christian Gonzalez next year, Drake May the year after? Because, you know, the Patriots don't like to do things early unless they get a really significant discount, like on the Gronkowski contract extension. And remember, with both Gonzalez and May, the Patriots have not only the fifth year option, but they have the franchise tag. So I think a more likely timeline is AJ Brown, if they can swing it, if not, then Christian Gonzalez moves up. But Brown, Gonzalez, then May the next three. And I totally agree. Did you get a whiff of what he was saying there? Yeah, yeah, I got it. Okay, so there's several items there to chew on. One is he just got back from the owner's meetings, where he was shmoosing, cavorting, snarkin' around all the Patriots people on the record, off the record, et cetera. I'm sure he was having some, you know, Pork tenderloin. I was going to say pork dumplings, but go ahead. I'm sure they were, you know, some paking ravioli or something. And he comes away with saying that he feels that the football people are already operating as if they're up against the budget, and they know. There's not much else they can do. He doesn't know if they've already factored in AJ Brown and his money coming, or maybe Christian Gonzalez having been signed and his money. Maybe that's already factoring into their thinking. But he says the way they're carrying themselves is that they're already up against it. Okay. One. Two. Just that question. They, they're up against, and again, if you're still believing Capspace, I just can't help you. They have oodles and oodles and oodles of Capspace, but in terms of their cash spending, Robert Kraft has said in the past over a three year period, he only wants to spend X amount. And the X amount is the actual cap number. That's just what they use as a rough gauge. You can obviously go over it, but he doesn't. Based on that, based on his past spending over this three year period, the Patriots are maxed out. So they have a couple of big ticket items on their roster next year. Christian Barmore, Michael Wenu. So this is why I said, unless they restructure the contracts of Wenu, who's do $17 million in cash or Barmore, $12 million in cash, do you see them adding AJ Brown or new money on Gonzalez's contract? He said, no, that would be unprecedented in the Kraft ownership of the team. So that all makes perfect sense to me. I have no dispute with any of that. That would jive with me. I think they are not the kind of team that's going to pay someone top of the market before they have to. They get down to the end of it and they have to pay you top of the market. Okay. But if you're going to come to us early, you're going to give us a discount. This is going to be the problem with Christian Gonzalez. The way these deals have gone on these rookie deals after year three, you can go to the team early. They can extend you early. And that has happened with guys like Saucer Gardner and Derek Stingley Jr. And others at a different position, Smith and Jigba. This just happened with him in Seattle after year three, you can get paid. You can get paid at the top of the market, but it's early. It's only three years on your four year rookie contract. Do the Patriots sound like the kind of team that's going to pay you at the top of the market early? No. No. No. They'll sign you early if you give them a, you know, if there's something in it for them. Okay. We'll give you money early, but we need something because we don't have to do this right now. So you give us a break on the contract. Nevermind. They're at their cash budget. So I think in some respects Christian Gonzalez might be a long shot unless they cut Michael Wenu or cut Christian Barmore. Greg Medard says, and he wrote yesterday, he thinks those guys are both on the roster. So something's got to give either nothing's coming for Gonzalez. AJ Brown is not coming here or they're going to be redoing or cutting the contracts of Barmore and or Michael Wenu. Something has to give if those two guys or some other money on the roster doesn't move out, nothing's coming in. That's his point there. But the whopper to me was the third thing that he sort of implied. The spreading them out over three years. That they aren't going to give you money early unless you give them something. So maybe what they have in mind is no Gonzalez this year. It's AJ Brown this year. Christian Gonzalez next year after year four and Drake May the year after that after his year four. That's the piece that I am telling you is not going to happen. I'm sure the Patriots want it to happen. It's a scary scenario. I'm sure the Patriots are going to try and make that happen. Of course to give money early at the top of the market is not something they want to do or anyone wants to do. Some teams just do it. And this one's going to have to do it. I could see them making Gonzalez wait. And if they do, I don't think that's going to end well because I think Gonzalez is going to hold out or do something that's going to hurt you in the short term. But I can see them yanking Christian Gonzalez around. Drake May. You think they're going to make Drake May wait till after year four? Answer. Any thoughts? I hope not. You do, Jim. I've been consistent with this for a long time until I see it and it's real money. These phony baloney contracts and I go back to when you covered the team, Michael, that Drew Bledsoe contract. It was hyped up 10 years, 100 million biggest contract in the league. How much real money was in it? $25 million. Something like that. I don't understand what that relates to. The point is, if Drake May wants real money, he's not going to take one of these phony baloney Patriot guaranteed contracts that it looks like it's 10 years and $300 million, but only 50 of it's actually guaranteed. They're not going to do that. Drake May won't take that. The Crafts will try to do it, but they're not going to pay him. What might be stuck in Robert's head is with that Bledsoe contract from 25 years ago, it's okay. He had the arm, he had the size all of it, but he sucked in the playoffs. So let's wait and see how this kid continues to. Drew Bledsoe's not applicable. I'm sorry. I know it's a different era. 25 years ago. It's a different era. It's not applicable. But he never paid Brady at the top of the market. Okay, that's applicable. Because Brady played along. He worked along. He gave him a performance center. He didn't give him actually money. The Patriots didn't. So that's why I have concerns that Drake May is going to need the biggest contract in the league. And it only lasts a month. So it's only like that tactical thing, but they've never paid at the top tier of any player over the course of term and quarterbacks of the biggest price tag. I think since they started, you know, the Crafts and Balacheck, you know, since they teamed up, they've been running the team a certain way in terms of cash out. Okay. So that's what I think is relevant. The bloodsote thing is just too long ago and they've they operate a little differently than they did back then. Just for simplicity's sake, forget the bloodsote thing. Trust me, it doesn't apply. You make Drake May wait till your four mass. Yeah, I don't like I'll tell you what, because what this does is it kind of baits the players and just saying f off, I'm not playing ball. And I think more and I'm really talking more about Gonzalez. You don't want to piss off the quarterback. Don't start playing that game. So like to put the quarterback third on the list of three guys, I don't like that for a second. This is the Patriots problem. And I know what they're doing and how they're thinking, which is we hammered out this collective bargain agreement. So rookies would have to play under a certain salary structure. We all agreed to it. And now the rest of you a holes in the league are blowing that up by giving these guys money early. That wasn't what this was about. So I know I bet the crafts are probably pissed at their fellow owners that you violated this. The whole spirit of this thing is that we wanted to keep rookie contracts in line because they got out of control. Like remember Matthew Stafford before this most recent CBA, there were some first overall picks that just got paid through the no or Bradford Sam Bradford like I can't guys like this. And they said, no, we can't do this anymore. So the Institute of this new rookie pay scale and they've had a loophole that after year three, you have to pick up the fifth year rookie option and you can actually give them new money after year three and some teams started to do it. And the crafts are going to say, well, that doesn't mean we have to do it. You sign the contract. We have you for four years. There's a fifth year option. That's the process that we all agreed to. And that's what we're going to do. And Christian Gonzalez is going to say, well, sorry. The Jets didn't do that with sauce Gardner and the Texans didn't do that with Derek Stingley Jr. And the Seahawks didn't do that with Jackson Smith and jiggle who I just kicked his ass in the biggest game of the year. So are we going to do business as business is being done or what you, you know, think you can do on paper. You can do your within your rights on paper. But the way business is being done is that the elite guys after year three are getting paid. So Christian's house is going to expect to get paid. And if the, so this is why I think the Gonzalez thing is no slam dunk. And the thing about paying early at the top of the market is just not the Patriots. They'll pay you early if they get a break on the deal. Rob Gronkowski, they signed him early, but that was a team friendly deal and Gronkowski regretted it the rest of his time here. But the grass will do that. They'll do that. And Tom Brady always gave them a break with real money too. Good. Okay. That's a good point. So Brady did. So they would sign Brady a little early, but Brady always took a little haircut. But with Will Fork and with Seymour and with Mankins and even with McCordy when McCordy hit free agency took them right to the wall, took them right to the end. And those were all World War three right to the end. And so what's coming with Christian's Alice? Let's see. Drake May. They're not going to do that with Drake May. That'll be the, I just, I think you're wrong Stu. I think that, I disagree with you. Genius does walk alone. They are not going to do that on Drake May. Why rush with the quarterback? Maybe they were a little shaken after the postseason performance. And Drew Bledsoe is not a comp, but you know who is? Patrick Mahomes. He got paid after year three. You know who's a comp? Joe Burrow. He got paid after year three. Even Josh Allen, who didn't even have a good first year and was even shaky into a second pop in your three got paid. Allen Burrow Mahomes, Justin Herbert. He got his money after year three. All those guys got paid after year three. I'll give you someone from that 2020 draft class who had to wait a year. You know who that was? To a to a tongue of I Loa. So you're telling me the Patriots are going to treat Drake May like to a tongue of I Loa as opposed to even Justin Herbert or Josh Allen. No, they're not. No, they have no choice to on this one. They have no choice. I still need to see a Mike. They have no choice. If there's precedent with these other guys who haven't won Dick, then yeah, then Drake May and his agent can say, look, it's time for us to get paid after year three. It's hard to win Dick in three years. You can't like, are you labeling Drake May as some sort of loser? He sucked in the playoffs. You are. You're doing that. Don't put words in my mouth, but you only named one real winner there and that was Mahomes. Well, who wins in their first three years? Mahomes and guys of that level. Real winners. Okay. All I'm saying is, oh, so you may say he's not worth the money Murray. That's you might be proven right. Who knows on that? I just don't want to rush with any quarterback these days. I don't like the way this. How's the quarterback going to respond? Probably not well, but I don't know perform on the field. Don't wind your offensive coordinator during the AFC championship game. This is hard. Murray, is he an elite NFL quarterback in today's NFL? Yeah. Oh, that tone is all the way back. Oh, yeah. No, no, it's there. Oh, no, no, no, it's never been gone. It's just been buried a little, but it's never been gone. The reintroduction of the tone. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, it's not back. It was there. So you think the patient would be right to wait on Drake May? I would. If I if I was your work, if I was a craft, yeah, I'm waiting this up. Why rush after that postseason performance? He had some good throws against Houston. Okay, neat. Would you do the rest of the time? How'd you perform the biggest game of your life? He was hurt. Was he? Yes. How bad? Why do you make that throw to my Mack Hollins when he was supposedly hurt? Well, Tim, you can rip one off, but you just can't do it consistently because the confidence in the shoulder wasn't there. Okay. He was garbage in the Super Bowl. Fact. No, no, you again, you can wind to his offensive coordinator in the air if you AFC championship game. This is hard. That's that's reassuring. I feel good about that. If I was an owner of an NFL team. No, you can rip one off. He just can't do it consistently. There's no way they're going to get away with that. There's just no way. I hope they do. I understand what you're saying that the quarterback position is different and you don't mess with that one. I will admit there is part of me that with them. I still worry. I still worry. Now, the other thing that bugs me about that scenario. If you can only do one a year and Gonzalez is going to be next year, which also coincides with May's third year. Or yeah, right. Right. So it'd be Gonzalez's fourth. It'd be after Gonzalez's fourth after May's third. Right. But you don't want to do more than one in any offseason based on the scenario that Padad laid out. So who are you going to do then? You can only pick one Gonzalez or May. They're not going to do both in the same offseason. Padad's plan that could it be the Patriots wanted their big money outlay because they're up against their cash budget. The money outlay this year is AJ Brown. Right. Next year is Christian Zollis and then the year after that is Drake May. So they're going to make May wait till after the fourth year. They're going to treat him like to a tongue of Iowa. Okay. But you just said that all those other guys get it after the third year. That's correct. So they're going to risk pissing off May. This is the point of this entire second. I understand. And you said they won't. I said they won't. They're going to pay him. Okay. So then Gonzalez is gone. Yeah. Based on that, right. Yeah. Of what has to give. If May is going to go in year three, then they're not going to do May and Gonzalez. Right. So this is what I'm saying. Right. That if Gonzalez and May came up at the same time, Gonzalez is gone. Yeah. And they should trade them. This is what I've been saying from the start. I know. I know. And I know we're getting back to that. But so we're on the same page. If if they're going to do this thing with Gonzalez, you're better off just getting the two first round picks and get don't do this thing. I'm Christian Zollis. But I think but Dard is right in that that's what the team wants to do. And the team thinks they're in the right to do it that way. You signed the contract. We have you for four years. There's a fifth year option we can even use. That's the CBA. That's the contract you signed. You're coming to us early. Do I sound like John Kraft? No, no. If you're coming to us early, you got to give us something. I understand how that that's absolutely how they want to do it. Can they get away with it? No, I don't think so. Not at the quarter back. By the way, can we get AJ Brown first before we're already budgeting him into real money spending? I don't think they're going to, you know, unless they haven't budgeted him. Frankly, the only thing I'm super confident in is that AJ Brown is not going back to Philly. That thing's done. I'm not confident that he's coming here at all because of the money. Unless something goes out the door. I'm not convinced a when it was here at that number. None of it's guaranteed. You can easily restructure that. So they, they lower his real cash money and use that on Brown like that. I could see, but keeping a when it went brown at their current contracts and AJ Brown, I don't think so. AJ Brown and Chris Gonzalez, no shot too much money, real money. You remember when Chandler Jones, high tower and Jamie Collins were all up? Hell yeah. And we thought they would keep initially we thought they'd keep two and one of them would go. Yeah. They have keeping one. That's right. So if that same sort of law applies now Gonzalez is gone. They should trade them. Okay. If they're not going to sign him now, they should trade them. So anyway, there's that conversation. Add that to the list. 617779095 back to you after this. Oh, yeah. Thoughts calls emails. Oh, yeah. I get my jollies out of this. I do. I'm not a good person. Go ahead. Felgar and Maas. Oh, yeah. 98 five, the sports hub. And the question now is how do those players respond if that's the way you think that's going to go, Greg? Yeah, I mean, look, me personally, and I don't know how the Patriots deal with it and how variable views it, but quite frankly, I don't really care. I mean, because, you know, he's under contract. He'll be getting paid a decent amount as the fifth year option. I think it's like 1819 million. But you would get the contract extension done before that kicks in. But Christian Gonzalez to get paid by anybody, whether that's the Patriots or somebody else, he's going to have to play and play well. And so I don't really care. You know, they're not going to have a problem with Drake May. Drake May knows he's going to get his money at some point in time. It's just a matter of when. But if Christian Gonzalez is a problem, then maybe that's indicative of guy that you don't want around here. Christian Zalas just wants to be treated like other star players at his position have been treated. That's all he wants. Maybe he wants more. I mean, I like, I don't know. But just because if he were upset, man, is that they didn't pay him after year three. That doesn't mean he's not someone you want on your team. Some guys want to get paid. Of course. Yeah. Looking if it's happening at other places, why can't it happen a year? Doesn't make him less of a competitor or less of a winner. Makes him a good businessman. Other guys got paid at this time of their careers. I stack up with those players. I deserve to be treated the same way. How does it doesn't make him a bad guy or someone I don't want on my team? So I disagree with that on that piece to it. I also disagree with his thought of well, Drake may find he knows he's fine. He knows he might have to wait for it, but he's going to get it either way. Really? That's how his agent's going to go? That that's what the people that he's hired to represent him are going to say? No, shut. Not after again. Some of those quarterbacks you rattled off had already gotten paid after year three. No way. The homes gets paid after year three. Allen gets paid after year three. Burl gets paid after year three. Justin Herbert gets paid after year three. I'm getting paid after year three. Whether he feels that way or not, the agent's going to say, Drake, this is what we're doing. Right. And you know why those other teams all did it? Because they said we don't want to alienate our quarterback early on in the tenure here and make the issue more difficult. He's a guy we're going to keep happy. If they're smart, they'll do that. I'm not sure they will with Gonzalez. I'm telling you what, after hearing that padard cut where he laid out that scenario of one a year, right then I said, uh-oh. Uh-oh. No good. Doesn't work. It doesn't line up the way you want it all the time. The expenses don't always come one year at a time. They won't pay Gonzalez. I'll believe it when I see it is how I'll put it. Here's what I'm saying. Something's got to give. Something has to give on that. And it's either going to be Barmore or Wenu. AJ Brown's not coming here because of the money. Gonzalez is going to have to wait. And if he's going to have to wait, then where's that headed? The only thing that's not up in my mind is Drake May and his contract. Now they may stretch it into the summer, like for example, I just went back and looked all this up today because now my interest is peaked. Drake may wait until after year four. So I started to look it up. For example, Justin Herbert. Okay. Then the way this works again, quickly, if you can just stay with me after year three, you can pick up the fifth year rookie option. So again, they're already in contract for year four, but after year three, you have to decide whether to give them the year five option. That can be torn up. It's just a placeholder. You can actually make them go play on it, but you can also tear it up at any time. So for example, on April 28, 2023, after Justin Herbert completed his third year, the Chargers picked up his fifth year option. Then on July 25th, he signed a five year extension worth 262 million. At the time of the signing, the deal made Herbert the highest paid player in NFL history. You know what happened? That would be six weeks later. On September 7th, 2023, Joe Burrow signed a five year 275 million dollar contract surpassing Justin Herbert to become the highest paid player in NFL history. So the Bengals being the Bengals made Burrow twist in the wind until that sounds like the eve of the season. September 7th, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. You know, so that was probably like the night before the year began knowing them. He probably threatened to sit out the open or something. So could the Patriots do something like that? Yeah, that sounds like them. But I don't see them. Okay. How about Josh Allen, who won't even all that good in his first couple of years? Josh Allen, I didn't write his bio, but he signed. He signed also late in the summer, I believe, in going into his fourth year after year three. Mike, didn't they deal with Brady one year where he wouldn't he wasn't going to get on the plane to Detroit for a police season game? Yes. So these are, but this is different. The the the the comps are first round picks after the third year who established themselves and got paid after year three. Brady came into the league during a much different time and was negotiating two and three year deals at the end. That was that. What you're talking about. The bills did that deal with Josh Allen on August 6th, 2021. So I think they picked up his fifth year option. And then in the summer, he got his deal before the regular season started. I can see the Patriots doing that, but no more than that because they have some standing like they can say to Drake May that look, Allen had to wait to August and Burl waited till September and Herbert didn't sign until August. And so we got you, but it's going to come in the summer. Fine. Mahomes on April 30th, 2020, the chiefs picked up the fifth year option on Mahomes contract. So all these started with them picking up the fifth year option. Then on July 6th, Patrick Mahomes signed a 10 year $477 million contract with an additional $26 million in potential bonuses for a total of 503 million. The contract extended through the 2031 season at the time of the sizing, signing it was the largest contract in professional sports history. Surpassing Mike Trout's 12 year $426 million contract with the Angels. Mahomes became the first professional athlete to have a half billion dollar contract. Soccer players Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo and baseball players Shoei Otani and Juan Soto have since surpassed the contract amount. This is what I think Drake May is going to be in line for that thing where you're not just saying the highest paid NFL player in history, but they're going to compare them to international soccer and F one racers and things like this. And the crafts are going to do it still the crafts are going to do it. You don't think they will. They're going to do it. They're going to have no choice just since we're on the and I know you're talking about quarter. So something else is going to give and that give might just be Cristian Gonzalez. Go ahead. They've yet to pick up that 50 eruption on Gonzalez. I'm going to go back to the point which I thought would have happened by now and even very able joked. Remember that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. As he's slugging his orange juice. If we haven't done that already, I do that. So, you know, that's absolutely coming. There's got to be a deadline on that, right? There must be. But I just want to know like, but the fifth year option that was after year three, he's only after year two. No, Gonzalez. Oh, Gonzalez. Gonzalez. Gonzalez. That's already mad. I'm sorry. I just cross streams. Gonzalez. Yeah. So that's got to be due soon. Yeah, they'll pick that up. There's nothing to harm. They're no lose. They picked that up. But anyway, I just find that all interesting. Follow the money. That's what this comes down to. I'm after hearing that comment by Bidadd. I am alarmed. But when I say alarmed, I mean, I'll wait and see like nobody else. If this is the way the Pats are going to approach it. Yeah, then Gonzalez is not going to get paid. It ain't going to fly. It ain't going to fly with the players. If I were them, I would move Barmore. That's the guy I would move. All right. I promise back to your phones after big jamaica chapter. Now more of the sports hub. Yes, John, you know, like I'm going to play with this team where I don't know why they make a high first round draft pick ever why they don't just always trade down and get something that's not going to cost them a lot. Well, the contract ends. Can I stop you? Robert Kraft is on record as saying I'll try and dig up the comment where I think he once said that what you want is a pick in the sweet spot of the first round is in the middle of the first round. That sounds familiar. I think he said something along the lines of that being the sweet spot. In other words, John, yes, they'd rather drop draft 15th than fifth. Yes, that's right. What wasn't Gonzalez drafted 15th? Around there. 17th, maybe. So, so they hit their sweet spot and they still don't want to pay the kid. The point is this, that I don't know why. And you always say, don't get him in trouble with something they haven't done before, but they've done this for decades now. This is their MO. They're going to let this kid Gonzalez walk or try and get draft picks for him and then let those draft picks walk. And ultimately, it's going to come to the quarterback and when the rubber reached the road, this isn't Tom Brady that owes them a debt of gratitude for drafting them. 199. This kid's going to walk and I don't blame the kid for walking because he can make it half a billion dollars without having to deal with this nonsense. Mike, so that's the problem. I have a craft. Okay. And I do want to be careful about getting them in trouble for something they haven't done yet. I think their track record on spending is well earned and on the record. They keep the records of the contracts and it is a fact that they spend less than most every other team in the league in terms of hard dollars. That is a fact and they deserve scrutiny for that. Going forward, I don't know. Let's see if things change. They might. You know, as Badard has pointed out, they're at their cash budget over these past three years. They're pretty much at it. If they add AJ Brown without sending any money out the door, they will have gone through their cash budget. They might do that and they deserve credit for that. Let's see if they do that. See, this is one of the things I wanted to see this off season because I want to know, can Vrable get through to them in a way that Bill didn't? I mean, let's be honest. Don't you think those first couple of days in free agency, they spent more than we thought they were going to? Yes. They did. Yes, completely. They did and I give them credit for it. Yes. But as Badard said in that first cut, the sense he got being out the owner's meetings talking to everybody is that the football people understand they're pretty much at it. They're at their budget. That's it. But I think the Patriots have already done a little bit more than I thought they were going to do to this point. I didn't think they'd come back with dobs and that safety. Bired. And, you know, Vera Tucker, like they did more than I thought they were going to do. Look, again, I will agree with all that. I also, again, one of the things I wanted to see, can Vrable get through to them in a way that no one else has? That's, you know, otherwise it's just the same old thing and he's going to throw his hands up. So like to me, this is an important off season because this is really their first one with any sort of momentum under them. Last year, Vrable just came in. He was new. They needed to spend to put a foundation in place. Like that was all sort of a given. I think they all went into it knowing what it was going to be in year one. And I think paying the quarterback is a given. I think it's a given. Now, who does that impact? Like there's going to be a cost. Exactly. There's going to be a fallout. It's not like they're going to spend more. They're just going to give him the money and someone else less. So what's the fallout? That's what, but I think it's just the course of doing business and who hasn't paid their young quarterback? Who? Well, Natalie, you almost have to. I mean, everyone did. Even Miami did. And there were some mistakes, right? Certainly. Miami regrets the two of money. And I've done free agents like Russell Wilson. I'm talking about their own guys, their own guy. Like who didn't get paid? Did Kyler Murray even got paid? He did. Yeah. So they all, they all get paid. Yeah, they all do Dak Prescott. Like every one of them. None of them. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones did by the Jones. Right. None of them becomes a free agent after year four or, you know, year four. Never happened. So they're, they're ban them. Uh, Dave and Worcester. Yes, Dave. Hey, I think you guys need to look at Drake made draft class. I mean, I think Daniels, Williams, uh, and bow nicks, especially with all that Walmart money behind them now. I mean, I think he's going to get paid. I mean, he's going to get paid. I mean, even if Panix with the new coach has a balls out this year, he's going to get. So I think you got to look at his draft class and see, okay, we got to get that. We got to get ahead all four of those guys are all and if they're going to wait till you're four, it's going to be even more. There's no way they're waiting till you're four. I wouldn't rush with Jaden Daniels either. You're made out of glass. I need to see you make it through a season. Okay, but Jim, you think those teams shouldn't pay those quarterbacks? I've said this now for years. I've said this since two, but this is because you hate quarterbacks. Yeah, because I'm right on most of them. I said at the time that the dolphins were going to live to regret this stupid extension they gave to that lefty stiff. I was right on most of them. You were wrong on Josh Allen. You were wrong on Drake made. Those are two big ones. I'd get off of that, but you hate quarterbacks. You can admit it. Yeah, I do. So you don't want them to get paid. It's written. I'm wrong on Drake may, huh? Yes, you're wrong on Drake may. We'll see. But I'm not, I'm not paying Jaden Daniels either because I'm fair because he can't make it through a season. He's made out of glass. I wouldn't pay any of those stiffs from that's that draft class stiffs. I'm over exaggerating. Thank you. So I just waitin. See, I just think the problem in that league is that if you have a guy who you think can play, even if he's a B, you got to pay him. Everyone does. It's too hard to find it otherwise. What are you going to end up with? Matt Jones again? You going to do that? Maybe you wake him may, you know, they may too well. It wasn't worth it. Wait till year four. They waited burrow twist in the wind all the way till maybe the season opener, September 7th, whenever that was. I just don't think you have a choice. Like, so I don't, I don't disagree with you that they will pay may eventually. Like, I don't, I don't think they're paying him next year. Okay. So a year from August, if I had to guess. So again, that part I'll push back on. Like, I'm not convinced that I want to see it. But I absolutely believe with the displacement theory of, you know, water. In other words, if may gets paid, someone else is not. And I think that that is, you know, if I'm Gonzalez, I'd be irritated right now. Back by popular demand. You wanted it. You've gotten it. Five questions that have nothing to do with sports. Yeah. Does every quarterback suck with big Jim Murray? Pretty much. Which comes your way right after this. Boston's best sports talk. You can count on it. You, the plus, the two is a fact. Me, I'm top up, but you know, because I'm a man. I'll answer. I got five questions. I got nothing. I got nothing. I got five questions. I got nothing to do with sports. I got five questions. Five. One, two, three, four. Yeah. I got five questions. I hope this savings not too bad. All right. Question number one, stuffy nose. Sounded good, man. Thank you. Stuffy nose, runny nose, sore throat or itchy a hole. Choose one you'd rather live with for the rest of your life and the reason for choosing. Would you please ask this question again? Question number five, if we could only choose one, we have to choose one among what? Stuffy nose, runny nose, sore throat, itchy a hole. Which one would you rather live with for the rest of your life and the reasons for choosing? So I'm debating runny nose or itchy a hole. Okay. The stuffy nose is wrong, but go ahead. The stuff it's personal opinion. The stuffy nose is a real like that gets in the way of your just general comfort. The sore throat really gets in the way of your comfort. Okay. Big time. The itchy a hole, you just sort of wiggle, jiggle around a little bit. I mean, don't you frequently dealing with itchy a hole as it is. It's kind of like a permanent condition. So I'm thinking runny nose. I think I go runny nose or itchy a hole. Good. Oh, to me, this is a runaway stuffy nose. Easy. Because I'll tell you why runny nose. I can't stand stuff like coming out of my eyes, nose, like not going to wipe it all the time. I'm going to carry a hankie around or something like that tissue or no go. So that's out sore throat. Too painful, too annoying. Like no, the itchy butt thing. I had that at the Super Bowl one year. It was driving me crazy. I mean, it was absolutely freaking bananas was driving me nuts. So I go stuffy nose. If it stays stuffy, but it's not running and it's I can live with that. Based on both of your answers to either you not know how to wipe, how have you dealt with prolonged itchy a holes before? Like, well, my when I say prolonged, you not use baby wipes because baby wipes are like a life changing thing by the way as an adult. I don't use baby wipes. Oh, they'll change your game. I heard people say this baby. I hear also the Toro or the, you know, like the bidet kind of things. Oh, toilets that shoot up. Fantastic. I feel if you're just playing around too much down there, like, I don't know. I just rather deal with the itchy a hole than that play with all the toys. Well, it can also be dietary in nature. So like, there's a constant leak going on. I know that's one of the next one at the I'm stuffy nose. By the way, that's probably easiest. Definitely. Thank you because it could just be one chamber, you know, rather than. Oh, well you didn't define that. Well, I'm just saying. Number two, the Artemis chamber, the Artemis to launch rocket carrying four astronauts on a journey around the moon and back to earth for the first time in 50 years on a scale of one to 10, one being I couldn't care less and 10 being yay. Space exploration. Where do you fall nine and I'm late to it because I wasn't super aware of what we were even coming down the pike. But as I became aware of where we were yesterday on the launch nine. Oh, I love this stuff. Love it. And I'll to the point where if you're not interested in it, I'm going to give you five fun facts that will make you interested in one. Yeah, one. I hate space. We've argued about this before in the off air show. I hate space and the thought of space exploration and the hubris of men. Kind of like, Oh, one, one, one, one planets. Not enough. Let's try to end up inhabiting another one. Get out of my face with this. Two billion people on this planet without access to clean water and we want to go find another effin planet. Go f yourselves. I hope I hope they all come back safely. But my standard with space. Explosions always this. I hope your mission fails miserably. Oh, space. What if there's water? There won't be. There's clean water somewhere. There won't be. I'll be long dead by the time you're traveling to these places. When we come back, I'm going to give you five fun facts that will make you interested in this mission. Oh, good. A part two. Yep. Three, when it comes to going out to eat, I personally more interested in a place that calls itself a bistro. If you're a diner, I'm India. I like a diner. Now, how would you rank your interest in a place based on how it styles itself alone? Are you into a steakhouse because they call themselves a steakhouse? You know what I mean? Like exactly what you mean. So Murray is a real foodie and you wouldn't know it because of the tats and the getup. He is bougie as the day is long. He is someone who like, oh, just for example, if we are in St. Louis covering a hockey game for the Stanley Cup, we'll drive us an hour and 15 minutes outside of the city for a bougie sort of trendy meal. He definitely will. Which he did. It was like an hour away for a freaking. Where was this again? Trout loose in St. Louis. Remember this? Remember how far we do remember that? A bougie dinner. Is that the day we played golf? Yeah, you guys did. Yeah, I remember that. You guys did. But this is Murray. He's bougie, bougie, bougie. So he like, I call it whatever you want. But I will say, as you just mentioned, I am a sucker for a diner. I like a diner. I like if they have a lunch counter sitting at a diner counter. I love a diner. I love diner food. I'm simple. I'm a sucker for a diner. Yeah. I don't know if I met many people who don't like diners. If you don't like a diner, you're you kind of suck. I like diners too. That's a given. All right. I would say though, steakhouse usually catches my attention because, you know, I mean, you know what you can get there. It's usually a steak or a burger, a piece of fish, something, you know, I generally don't like the word grill. Bistro. Bistro, I don't mind. So bougie. I feel like the quality of food at a bistro is usually pretty good. I don't get foodies. But a grill, sometimes you can get a trashy grill. G-R-I-L-L-E. Yeah. Yeah. Stay away. I mean, sometimes I'm not, I will avoid a grill. They're trying to do something there. Yeah. Some of those are trashy. By putting the E on it, like, who do you think you are? I know. Then you get in there and like, this place sucks. Now, excluding the turn signal, because remember, we're New Englanders here, what is one feature that's available in most modern vehicles that gets used the least? Cruise control, the stupid button that recirculates the air inside the cabin, something else. What's the least used feature in modern vehicles? So my Jeep, they don't have much. Because it's a Jeep, that's why I love about it. In the woods, Land Rover, sorry, there's like, 10 buttons that I don't even know what the hell it does. ABS control, I don't even know. Like over three quarters of the car does not. Oh, that ABS button, it looks like the car's like sliding over the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what the hell that does. Yeah, what's that one? What I hope that I wish was disabled was the automatic locking in the cars. I never use it. I don't ever want to use it. But you get out of the car and you try and open the back door and you can't open the back door because don't you despise that? That's annoying. Yeah. And that's all for what? Window locks annoying too. Okay, but that's for the kids. Different. Yeah, for the children. You just press a button while you're sitting there in the car. And now I'm out of the car and my bag's in the back of the car. Can I open the F and door? No, I can't. Why? How does that protect you from a car jacker? Like I don't even get how it works. I don't even get why that protects you. How does that protect you? Don't know. Someone's got to explain that to me. I don't know. You know that. You know that's annoying. Extremely. So I don't know if it's an actual button as much as it is a feature, but I'll go with it. My car has this thing where you can set it to turn off at a red light. Does your car? Oh, I hate that. Yeah, I despise that thing. What is the point of that? Where it cuts the engine? Yeah, basically fuel efficiency. Yeah, I know it sucks. I hate that thing. So all of a sudden, I think that one is that you can turn that right off. I think that I did. I think it's the A. I turned it off. Yeah. I think that's the one I know. Okay. Turn it off. I did. I turned it off. I'm just telling you, I find that to be useless. That feature is freaking useless. It's useless to save the planet, man. Along with the overdrive button. That's another one. So there's a good one. What the hell does that mean? And there's like, you can turn your manual car into a stick, you know, you know, you know, you to put the thing over and then put it in low gear and high gear and you can simulate this is mine. Like for an automatic car, I don't need the paddles. Oh, I do that. He'll go. I do it all the time. I do it all the time. You know what that saves on? What? I don't do it to accelerate. I'm not like racing you. But when I drive really fast and you're coming to a stop, low gear, pop it over and go from fifth to fourth to third and it'll slow your car down and you don't burn out your brakes. Hmm. I don't care. Well, finally, you wake up one morning, you discover you can fly just like Superman. Now here's the important question. How will you position your body while in flight? Both arms extended. Palms open. One arm palm open. Both arms fist. One arm fist arms at your sides. Torpedo position feet first lying on your side like you're on the couch. And are you wearing cape or no cape? Okay, cape, obviously given half to have the give you can fly. You might as well wear a guy. You're going to see me do it. I mean, that's like an obvious one. And I think I'm your classic mercenary position. Missionary. Straight out fingers extended. I'm going cowgirl. No, I'm going straight ahead. However, I'm not going like, you know, like a diver. I'm going 10 to two, like the old, you know, okay, I got to be able to see I want the vision. My hands will be open. I just kind of want to cash just kind of like I'm floating. I want to be able to float. That's what I'm up there doing. I'm definitely with a cape. You have to do it with a cape. You can fly. You have to have a cape. So you're noticed I'd like the one fist on Matt Murray. When you said that the one hand out and the one thing at your side is a cool as opposed with the cape like that. It's almost Heisman isk trophy. You know, I feel you on that. It's like driving with one hand. Yeah. Just cooler. All right. So concludes five questions. Do you want five nuggets that will interest you in the Artemis? Yeah, I would. Yeah, I would. Yeah. 90 seconds. No commercials for Murray and them.