Jared Muros: How Exploring Everything Led To Finding Himself
42 min
•Oct 21, 20256 months agoSummary
Jared Muros, a 24-year-old content creator and fashion interviewer, discusses his journey from exploring multiple creative fields to finding his niche in street fashion content. He shares his experience overcoming substance abuse during COVID, achieving rapid growth (100k followers in one month), and emphasizes the importance of sobriety, time management, and financial literacy for young creators.
Insights
- Exploration and experimentation across multiple fields (modeling, acting, journalism, fashion) can lead to discovering authentic passion rather than forcing early specialization
- Sobriety and mental clarity directly correlate with creative output quality and audience growth; removing substances improved both interview performance and follower engagement
- Young creators benefit from mentorship and learning from experienced figures who have navigated addiction recovery and built sustainable platforms
- Time management and financial literacy are foundational skills for creators that rival technical skills but are rarely taught formally
- Finding a supportive creative community that shares your vision is critical for sustained content production and overcoming self-doubt
Trends
Street-style fashion content and stranger interviews gaining traction on TikTok/Instagram as authentic alternative to curated fashionGen Z creators prioritizing sobriety and mental health as competitive advantages in content creationPlatform shoes and baggy pants making fashion comeback among Gen Z and diverse demographicsYouTube replacing traditional college education for skill-based learning (video editing, interviewing, financial literacy)Substance abuse crisis (fentanyl-laced drugs) becoming central concern for youth-focused content creators and podcastersMentorship from older, experienced figures becoming valuable for young creators navigating money, time management, and life decisionsAuthenticity and vulnerability in creator content resonating more than polished, sponsored materialCreator economy enabling rapid scaling (100k followers in one month) for niche, consistent content strategies
Topics
Fashion trends and street style content creationSubstance abuse recovery and sobriety in creative fieldsTime management for multi-project creatorsFinancial literacy and money management for young earnersYouTube as alternative education platformFentanyl crisis and drug-related youth deathsContent creator growth strategies and audience buildingMentorship and intergenerational knowledge transferSocial media platform algorithms (TikTok, Instagram, YouTube)Authenticity vs. curated content in fashion and lifestyleCommunity building for creative projectsInterviewing and street content productionPersonal brand development for creatorsParenting and generational differences in technology adoptionFailure to launch and early career direction
Companies
Apple
Podcast platform where 'We're Out of Time' reached #1 on Mental Health chart, #2 on Health/Fitness
Spotify
Podcast distribution platform mentioned for listener subscriptions and ratings
YouTube
Primary platform where Jared posts daily fashion interviews and content; discussed as alternative to college education
TikTok
Platform where Jared gained initial traction with fashion content; one video reached 1M views
Instagram
Social media platform where Jared posts fashion and interview content daily
Adidas
Major brand mentioned in context of Jared's casting and modeling work
Nike
Major brand mentioned in context of Jared's casting and modeling work
Crocs
Brand that has blocked host on Instagram, possibly due to critical comments about their products
Birkenstock
Fashion brand discussed negatively as 'unsexy' in conversation about fashion trends
Hot Topic
Retail store suggested as place to find fashion trends like chokers
UCLA
University where host learned time management through Anthony Robbins program while broke
People
Jared Muros
24-year-old content creator and fashion interviewer; main guest discussing his journey from exploration to success
Mike Tyson
Referenced as first person host saw with face tattoo, which normalized facial tattoos in culture
Gerald Houston
Street content creator mentioned as example of successful skits-on-street format similar to Jared's work
Dylan
22-year-old content creator that host encouraged listeners to follow during episode
Anthony Robbins
Self-help author whose 30-day program host used to learn time management while at UCLA
Ben Stiller
Actor in 'Zoolander' film discussed as example of fashion industry satire and modeling commentary
Quotes
"I just see it as, this is my job. Go talk to someone here, like, you're outfit, if they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. I move on to the next day."
Jared Muros•Early in episode
"I interview way better when I'm sober and when I know what's going on."
Jared Muros•Mid-episode sobriety discussion
"Time management and financial literacy are probably those are the two things that are the most important."
Host•Advice segment
"You're a baby. No, I know. I know. I know. That's why anything you want. That's why you don't get off."
Host•Age/experience discussion
"I've been learning that as a recently. My mom is a banker and she's like, hey, do you know what you're doing with your money?"
Jared Muros•Financial literacy section
Full Transcript
At that time, that's when I was really so focused and locked in. A big thing to us finding a group of people that believe in your vision, who were very similar to me in that aspect, that they make videos, they understand like, I want to go do a video. With a certain group of people, they'd be like, bro, that's embarrassing. Why are you going to get up and go talk to a stranger by his outfit, you know? But I just see it as, this is my job. Go talk to someone here like, you're outfit, they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. I move on to the next day. We want to extend a heartfelt thank you to our listeners. Because of your incredible support, we're out of time has reached number one on Apple's Mental Health Podcast chart. Number two on the Health and Fitness chart and number 26 overall. We couldn't have done this without you. Thank you for being part of this journey with us. Jared Muros. Hi. Did I say that right? You said it right, yeah. Sometimes people say, Munoz, Moros, you got it right, first try. Thanks for coming, man. Hey, so thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. You have a lovely home, by the way. Oh, thanks. Yeah, thanks. Like, I come in here and I'm like, this is what I see for myself. So I love envisioning, envisioning being in it, you know? I think you can do better. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe this could be like a stepping stone to the next one. Who knows? Yes. Okay. How did growing up in boil heights and with your influence your fashion? I have a question for you. What do you think about my fashion? Dude, I think your dopest hell. I mean, I just think you're this is fire. It's awesome. Thank you. I mean, you wouldn't like that Russian winter hat. You guys. It's lovely. It's cold outside today. That's right. I was having trouble coming up here too. Like, the National Guard's like, where are you going? I was like, oh, uh, uh, the over here. And he was like, go that way. Right. Go man. It's a lot going on. A lot of winds. Oh, it's got some good winds over here. You look like you're criminal. So you're lucky they let you here. I don't like a criminal. You're like the third person to tell me that today. Not today. But like overall, I was talking to my brother, to my bro. He's like, if I want to store and I was doing security, I'd watch you. And I'm like, bro, why? Like, is it the tattoo? Is it the piercing? Dude, you don't even have a face tattoo. I know. That's why I'm like, why do people say these things? So he might be the only guy you've gotten on here without face tattoos. Hey, is that a win? Dude, I don't know. I don't know if it's a win. I mean, it's win for me. I'm 58. Oh, awesome. Okay. I'm not 58. Do you know who the first person I saw with a face tattoo was? Who? Mike Tyson. Oh, really? Yeah, he was the first one he had that thing there and everybody freaked out about it. And now, every kid's got a face tattoo. Yeah, a lot of people. His, I feel like he's like, where it's like, a skull is with a face structure and then sometimes I see someone I'm like, why? Who had the best face tattoos here? There's been in this room. 2K? That's a good one. 2K. I'm not familiar with the tattoos. Do you know 2K, baby? I do know who he is, but I'm just not very familiar with. His appearance, that's who's this that. I've seen like the name pop up, you know? We're going to play basketball together. Oh, wow. He's taking me into some place where all the rappers play basketball. Okay. And it's going to be a 58 year old white guy. I feel like you could wipe him down, you know? Oh, I'm going to kick their ass. Oh, yeah, I can see that. I can see. Okay, let's go back to the question about, you know, with your boy or high-tiered. So I feel like it wasn't as much the cities that I grew up in, but when I grew up when I was younger, my mom was working a lot. I was like living with my grandma. And that entailed just watching cartoons, being on the computer, getting lost on the internet. Tell me about your fit check. Which one? No. On you? No, no, no. On all of it. Tell me about how you got into that. Tell me about, you know, all of it. Give me the whole. Yeah. Man, it goes back. I started in high school interviewing kids when I was a freshman, just like, with the phone, shitty little mic. And when I first started, it made me feel like some type of freedom, some type of joy, you know, just asking kids like stupid questions. I got to go around school. I remember one of my favorite videos that I did when I was in high school. I printed out a photo of the KFC Colonel Sanders, right? Now I was going around my school and I'm like, what president is this? And I was just trying to like, that is so fun. You know, yeah, I was trying to get some good reactions from people and just like, have fun with my peers at school. It's a sterical. It was great. It was great. I might, I have to find the video. It's like lost. We were there. But if we went to one of those fine educational institutions, I'm talking Ivy League. Okay. And we did that. That would be a sterical. Yeah, I feel like it's Chad G. between the internet. Even back then, people were like, oh, is this Abraham Lincoln? And I'm like, bro, are you kidding me? This guy makes chicken. But yeah, it started doing stuff like that. So good. That's so good. It started doing stuff like that. And then I started just, I was always in the fashion. So I saw like this trend going around. People would ask me, show about their fits. This and that like on TikTok, Instagram. I was like, you know, let me try it. I did a couple of videos like that. And like one of them got like a million views. And like I've never seen like the number million everywhere in anywhere in my life. I was like, oh my god, like this is crazy. So I do more, so I do more, so I do more. To where we are now. That's so funny. All right. I've written down some really serious questions that I need you to answer. Okay. Let's do it. All right. When are chokers coming back? When are chokers coming back? Yeah. I love the chokers. You love the chokers? Why do you love the chokers? When are they coming back? I honestly don't know. I've never been in the chokers. But I feel like there's certain subcultures that still will rule by them till the end of time. Good. Give me those. Like, goss, emails, you know, I don't want to go off. Give me more. Like, then what are you into? I'll tell you if they were chokers or not. I like. I don't, it depends. Like, what are they into for them to wear chokers? You know, I don't see them coming back in my realm of life. I might wear like maybe some tight necklaces, but this is like the tightest, this getting man. Oh, just heartening. Yeah, I'm sorry. I need a little good news, bro. Okay. Maybe you go to hot topic. Go to hot topic. Go to a mall that has all type of stores. Just like kick it out a little, you know, go get yourself a pretzel and sit down like at the bench. You might find somebody coming out with a choker. Do I need mustard with the pretzel? I like sweet pretzels. In my head, I have like a cinnamon sugar pretzel. That's true. Because you, you're the fashion guy. Like, I'm the rehab guy. If somebody comes to me, they don't have a problem anymore. I'm trying to give you the like, good. You're the king. You can make it happen. You're the guy who can break it out. I don't realize that sometimes. Like when I do videos, like, people watch them for fashion and inspiration for this and that I'm going out to have fun. And now that you say that, I'm like, oh, yeah, if I go and get a hot girl with a dog collar and it gets a million views, people are going to be like, oh, our dog collar is back. Should I wear a dog collar? See what I'm saying? Yeah. But wait, there's more. Okay, there's more. Would you be willing to talk about Birkenstocks? In Birkenstocks? Yes. I hate those. Why do you hate them? Because they are the most unsexy things on the face of the earth. What if they're worse than that? Those knickers. See, you're too young to know about knickers. No. Okay, girls, there was a whole thing all through my high school with girls with knickers. They were disgusting. Wait, that's not. What is that? It's like pants that go up to your mid cat. Your mid cat. Like like Capri's kind of, but like just like upper higher. Okay, well, I don't know what Capri's are. Maybe that's my generation's word for knickers. Okay. Um, per- What is their comfortable? What is somebody's willing them per-compert and not for fashion? I don't care. Oh, I wouldn't like- I mean not in the slightest. I wouldn't make fun of somebody unless they come at me first. And I'm like- You'd be willing to. I'd be willing to. They said something to me. No, no, not if I do. Okay. No, just like- I might think it. I'd be like, oh Birkenstocks. But like, I'm not going to go and make it a public statement. Okay, well, we're going to talk until you do because here's the thing. What? Because that's how you why. Okay, okay. You're going to do the- You're going to do the thing with the choker. Right? Okay. Lady, you said you would. Okay, I would. I've been giving you money for the dog collar. Okay. We'll see after. If you guys see a video of somebody with a dog collar that's going up, it was because of this moment right here. It's because of you. You're the king. Just like you're willing to do the dog collar. Yeah. Okay. Then this is the exact opposite. See, I love the dog collars and you're doing me a solid. Okay. I hate the Burkin stocks. So do me a solid. For some reason, Crocs has me blocked on Instagram. And I think it's because I might have said something one time that I don't recall this or that. Same might happen with Burkin stocks. Yeah. Okay, so that's a yes. Maybe. All right. Maybe take the maybe. Can you make certain that that boostier thing stays around? Oh, new style. I love that thing. Okay. If I find somebody on the sheet wearing it, I'll do a video. Can you can you make certain that the boostier thing sticks down a little bit? How about you send me a list of like yes, yes, yes, no, no, no. And I'll see what resonates with me and I can make it happen. Okay. That's good. But we're still going to go through a little. Okay, we will. We like to. Cool. The boostier thing with the belly ring and that little little thing. You have like such a specific like, it's like creating a person that I see in your mind right now. Right. And I will try to find it. You'll do a bunch of inks out too, right? Ain't a bunch of ink all over them. Oh, yeah. I like the ink. How tall? I don't care. Shoesize? Don't care. Okay. Hair? Not important. Okay. Three things. See? I'm both. See your ink. Belly button. I love this. I love the vision. I see it through. It's wonderful. Dude, I want one of those Russian hats. I can get you one. Can I have this one after if you want it? Don't tease me. I'm serious. It's swear to God. It's swear to God. I can go in another one. I love you. I'm not even sorry. I'm not even a little good. Where do the best and worst fashion trends right now? Oh, man. Oh, man. Who's waiting for this? So I'm not gonna lie. Things I like personally. I don't know if this is the consensus of the entire United States and the world. I like big pants. You see my pants that I walked in with? Love them. You don't even see the shoes. They're huge. I love letting them drag. I love letting them rip. It's just that's a character that has a swag. You know? I love that. Fashion trends, I was that okay for a 58-year-old or would I just look stupid? I think you could wear it. I think you can wear anything as long as you feel comfortable in at any age. I'm gonna be 60 wearing probably this exact thing, you know? All right. It might just be like not this exact one but a new one. And then something that I dislike a little in fashion, I don't want to say anything specific. I mean, there's certain things that I'm like in about what? You can hurt people's feelings. Yeah. I can't hurt the clothes feelings. Yeah. Tell me what you don't like. Okay. I don't like skinny jeans. Sometimes if I wear a pair of pants that's too skinny, I need my balls to breathe. They can breathe. It gets sweaty. I'm walking out. My thighs are chafing. I don't like that. You know? If you roll away all my skinny jeans, please. I mean, maybe it works for you. Then will you get them tailored to be bigger in a certain area that you might need? I just let the crotch out and I'm cool. Yes. You're on. I can't do that. What motivated you to go from modeling to casting for major brands like Adidas and Nike? Since I was young, I've just always been trying to find the thing that works for me. And you know, a lot of people like musicians, they might be like, I was 14. I knew I was going to make music. I knew I was going to do this and that. I was lost up until a couple of years ago. You know, so I'm trying everything. I'm looking online. How to make a million dollars. How to be famous. How to do this. How to do that. And I'm just watching as much content as I can consume. Where I'm like, you know what? I want to be a model. I start learning how to model. I watch videos. I ask people that I know. I get into that world and I'm like, okay, is this something that I really want to do? I want to learn how to act. I went to like a community college. I took the acting class and I was like, okay, this is like what this is like. I did journalism in community college. I did like fashion pattern making. It was like everywhere. You know, I started casting and I was just have my hand in 20 different buckets until I realized this is who I am. This is what I'm good at. This is what my legacy is going to be in the world. How old are you? 24. Do you know what I love about that? What? Seriously. My son's like that too. He wants to learn something. And he goes on YouTube. Yeah. And he learns it. All. It comes an expert on anything he wants to know. Like he went ahead and did a Rubik's cube. He just picked one up a month later. He's doing it in 17 seconds. Yeah. 27 or whatever. 17, 20, so I don't remember. But and the reason I like it so much is because it's really, if you think about it, making college obsolete. YouTube is a university. University, I was going to say that. I dropped out of college. And when I was no longer in college, I'm like, okay, what am I going to do? Like in college, you have to go learn one thing. This is your class, go learn math. That I'm never going to use. Go learn science that I'm never going to use. Right. But I want to learn how to be a better interviewer. How to edit videos. So I'm just going to sit down. You financially literate. Exactly. You can watch YouTube videos on any topic that you want to know if you're like, can I get that that education in school? Yeah. And you're going to go pay $30,000 a year for what? And that is the most important thing you can learn. Yeah. Is financial literacy. I've been learning that as a recently. My mom is a banker and she's like, hey, do you know what you're doing with your money? You're making money. Where is it going? You have to put this in this. And this LLC stocks everywhere. You know, spread it out. Listen to your mother. Oh, I am. I am. Like as a recently, I've been learning. My mom has always been right. What does she do at the bank? She helps. What's her position? I don't know the exact name, but when people have their parents unfortunately pass away, she helps with the will, money, transfer to the side, you know, assuming me. Your mother has forgotten more than you will ever know about this. She is what? She's gotten. She will have forgotten more. Yes. Means she knows so much about this. Yes. That even if you study this. Oh, yeah. For weeks. You will she would have forgotten more shit than you learned. Yes. Yes. Okay. That's her job. She's got probably the toughest job at the bank. Yeah. Okay. And she looks at what works and what doesn't. Okay. Yeah. You got to listen to your mother. Oh, yeah. I do. I do. Call your mother. I am. I can't wait to be a parent. And it's really see like the things I did to my mom. Sometimes she's like, you like didn't listen to me. Like why? And now I'm like, oh, I should have listened. And I'm going to be a parent one day. And I'm a told my kid, why didn't you listen to me? I told you this and that. Like you see, that's how you are. Right now talking about my kids are so good. That I should really have a DNA test taken to see if they're mine. Why? Because you feel like you're not as good or would? Well, I know my 11 year old and my 15 year old are both smarter than me. Not a lot. Okay. If they ask me to help them with their homework, I look out. Yeah. I mean, and third grade, my kid looked at me and said, hey, can you help you with this? And I looked at it and for the life of me, he's like, babe, I don't know any of this stuff. Not any of it. Yeah, my little brother, he's in high school and he was like asking me something about a math question. And I'm like, like, I don't know what any of this is. I hate math. Same thing. And I feel like I was just in high school not too long ago. Yeah. So let's talk about that. Talk about it. How many people died of **** in your high school? And this is four years, five, six years ago. So that's before **** was even a real thing. Yes. I knew of one person who was a friend of mine that passed away. But he was in, same city we would hang out, but he was just in a different high school than me. Okay. And how old was he when he died? 18, 19. Well, did you know his parents? Who talked to his mom like see her, but I didn't know them. Like personally, you know, have you ever run into them or heard anything about it after they buried their kid? No, I was at the funeral, but since then I left the city. I grew up in. Right. Yeah, that family's finished. Yeah. That family's completely finished. Yeah, I know. I can, I can see. I saw it like in person and it's just, it's scary. It's a scary world we live in now. Like really diving deep into it. And knowing friends is still do drugs. Sometimes knowing that it's in there and I'm like, why? Oh, there's a million reasons why. But you don't have to get into that. Yeah. Okay. Were you doing drugs in high school? Not in high school. In high school, I was a pretty good student. I was like class president every year. I was like yearbook editor. I was in like hella clubs. President of a lot of clubs and stuff. Got out of high school, made new friends and then you know, dabbled in some things here and there and then I kind of made about it. I have friends that I would hang out with at that time too. They're like, oh my god, how are you doing this? How are you doing this? How are you doing this? And I'm like by stopping living another life that I was living and pushing through and being healthy going to the gym, staying sober, listening to my body, what my body needs. But you know, so love. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll get into that. So I came out of high school and like I would never drink smoke nothing in high school. You know, I was just normal kid going to school, getting good grades, stopping and then I graduated high school and that's when COVID was really deep. You know, so it's really there's nothing to do. So I would just hang out with my friends. We play swiss, we play video games and they were heavy into, you know, pills, drinking, smoking, this and that. So I started picking up smoking for a couple of years, trying some of the stuff that they were trying and then I got to a point where I kind of realized like waking up, I'm smoking every day, maybe like taking a shot or two and I'm like, bro, this is like not what I want to be doing. You know, I had friends that I met over the internet that I grew up with that started to surpass me in certain creative fields that I was still like making YouTube videos posting TikToks, posting Instagram videos during this time, you know, and it just made me feel like I wasn't fully myself on camera, you know, and I want to be fully in control when I'm interviewing someone, when I'm talking to somebody and just knowing that I'm in my mode, and I wouldn't feel in my mode if I would take a drink and just be like, I remember I would go out to do interviews and I'd be like, oh, I have to be drunk to interview, you know, then I realized like, wait, no, I don't, like I interview way better when I'm sober and when I know what's going on. So slowly, slowly, slowly, I started getting sober and that's when I looked into looked into what I really want to do with my content. And when I was sober, I want to say like six months, you know, going to the gym every day, meditating, really finding what was going on is when everything changed for me. You know, from one month to the next, it's like, I had maybe 2000 followers posting one to two videos a day, getting a couple hundred views to the next month, I grew a hundred thousand followers and I really, you get a hundred thousand followers, you got a hundred thousand followers in a month. Yeah, it was in 2023. Doing the interviews, yeah. And at that time, that's when I was really so focused and locked in, I'm like, I'm going to post three to four interviews a day with people I find on the street. I'd wake up and I'd just tell my friend, like, yo, we're going to go to the beach interview, people are going to Beverly Hills today, we're going to downtown. And it's a big thing to us finding a group of people that believe in your vision, because I had friends sometimes, like, yo, let's go film, let's do this. Let's make some content and they're like, like, again, whatever this and that, but I found a good group of people who are very similar to me in that aspect that they make videos, they understand, like, let's say I'm out of restaurant, I see somebody with the cool fat, the next table, and I'm like, yo, I want to go do a video with a certain group of people. They'd be like, bro, like, that's embarrassing. Where are you going to get up and go talk to a stranger about his outfit, you know? But I just see it as, this is my job. Go talk to someone here, like, you're outfit, if they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. I move on until the next day, you know? But we had a guy here that did that, didn't we? He'd go and he'd do skits on the street. Didn't we do it? Yeah, Gerald Houston. Gerald Houston. So, the Gerald Houston, he's like, I was a Rayman, that goes up the window and he's like, yes, oh my god, I love his videos. I saw he did one with a, he's like, hey, oh, D-D-G, D-D-G, and it was a, well, what's his face? The food reviewer guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I just think his videos are funny. Love that. Yeah, yeah. You just got kid happy. Yeah, I haven't been kid happy since I was a kid. It's like, you just did like that. I feel like those are some videos that come on my timeline that I never talked to somebody about. I don't got friends who are like, hey, you seen his new video. So you guys saying, and I'm like, oh my god, I've seen those before. That's so cool. Yeah. So I saw that kid like energy. Hey, we do me a favor when we, before we leave. Yeah. Will you follow Dylan? Yeah, cool. Just do it. That's right. He loves that. But I love it when people follow him. Oh, well, he's 22. Yeah. I'm 58. He was like, oh my god, this person's following you. I'm like, who's that person? I used to do that a lot too. And I said, there's still some that I get giddy. I'm like, oh my god. It's like, but no, it's funny though. Here's what's cool. You know, everybody who I've had here has been fantastic. Okay. The one. But aside from that, oh, no, no, is the video up? I think it's you bring good energy or easy to talk to. Yeah, but this one was just, you know, I love having easy conversations like this like this one. Yeah. Did you like having a conversation with me because I lost a quarter century to drug addiction? I was reading about you. So I saw that. Yeah. And when you're reading about me, yes, I got to know where I'm coming. I saw an article that talked about how you were an addict for so long. You opened every hit of the Billitation Center in Malibu. Listen, that, you know, I did my research and what it is. Thanks. I feel that way too as well. But, you know, not as heavy as how your life went on as well. But you know, I went like three or four years every day, smoking, drinking, trying different things that I look back. And I'm like, where did those years go? Like, I feel from 18 to 23. I just wasn't. Dude, you're a baby. No, I know. I know. I know. That's why anything you want. That's why you don't get off. No time at all. Yeah. In the long run, I know it's, it's no time. But I'm just glad I was able to find it earlier. And hopefully somebody watching is like, I'm 18. I'm 17. I'm doing this. Yada, yada. So yeah, in that way, those are fat glasses with glasses or those. My girlfriend made them. She like makes glasses and has a low brand. So, oh, that's gorgeous. What's the brand name? Four, four, four your eyes. Four, four, four your eyes. Number four. Yeah. The number four, four, four, four, three times. And then why all you are, EYES, four your eyes. That's nice. Yeah. That's nice. Those people always think they're Chromearts. They looked like Chromearts. I was at the coffee shop the other day and some dude's like, I love your Chromearts shades. I have shades. I have the same ones. And I'm like, you have the same ones? He's like, bro, yeah. And they're like, they're nicer than Chromearts. I used to have Chromearts, everything. They get a lot of fan or Chromearts. I'm like, gave it all away. Yeah, I neither. I didn't go see a lot of you. You want to look hard. Yeah, because the like the bad boy, and I'm not a bad boy. So it's like, you know, it kind of like, if somebody gave me a tattoo, I'd cry like a little, do you have any tattoos? No, no, I'm scared. I was cry. I got a back tattoo. I was crying. Like if you ask my tattoo artist, he's going to be like, Jared was a little, right, cry. But you don't bring like girls with you to do that. No, no way. You come and you won't even bring the boys. You go, oh, yeah. Yes. And even he was, I was like, Yo, can you stop? He's like, I'm not going to stop. We've taken 15 breaks within the past 10 minutes. I'm going to finish. And I was like, okay. And then he put my head down. He just started tattooing. I'm like, okay, well, and if I was going to get a tattoo, I would call somebody to knock me out. Yes. Like little shows on that. Like I was having surgery. Should have done that. I'd be like, no, I don't do the pain thing. Yeah, no, I can't either. I'm done with the pain thing. Man. What's on your mind, man? On my mind. Yeah. Oh, let's do this. Oh, yes. Let's do our new segment. Oh, what's the new segment? The new segment is what do you call it? Okay. We call it the soapbox. Yes. We're going to call it something totally different. Okay. Okay. Later on, because I hate that name. But it's you sit there and you can vent for as long as you need to a minute or two, whatever, 36, 7, care about anything that is currently pissing you off or annoying you. Oh, see, like your older. So I'm going to say this. You're going to be like, dude, you have so much time and like I get it, right? But I've been working so much towards a lot of new aspirations, new things that I want to do in life. And I feel like I need so much more time in the day. I'll wake up, get to work, go to sleep, be going to work. And then I'm like, dude, where's the time going? I'm not done with this thing. I'm not done with this thing. I'm not done with this thing. And it's just like a million things on my plate. And I think the thing with me is I don't know how to situate my time correctly in schedule. Then I'm on one project and I'm like, okay, I'm tired of this and you hop onto the next project. I'm doing the next project I'm doing. Then it's the end of the day. And I'm like, oh, it's still there. And finish the first project. And I'll wake up the next day and keep it going. So I wish I had more time or learn how to scheduleate my time better. It's not a word, but I know that. It's going to be a scheduleate. It's awesome. It's now a word. Yes. Do you have any advice for me? I do. Yes. That's called time management. Okay. And along with financial literacy, it's probably those are the two things that are the most important. How did you learn time management? I do your best way. Man, I think what I did was in college when I was at UCLA. Yeah. I went ahead and I was broke. I was so poor. You know, I just flat broke. Like nothing. So I listened to Anthony Roberts. I bought his 30 day program. And I think that's how I learned time management. And if it wasn't that, it was something he recommended that I read. And I read that and got time management. But those self-help books when I was like, now they wouldn't land. Why? Because I've reached a point in my life where I've already done all those things and they're already habituated in the way I live my life. So they wouldn't lie with you, but with somebody new coming to them, they would land. For you? Yes. To be the greatest thing in the world for you. Someone my age, someone my realm. No, I'm talking about it. I don't trust it. For you. And well, really anybody starting out that doesn't have a clear direction and has a failure to launch. So a failure to launch would be a kid whose 40 still living in his mother's basement playing video games and screaming, hey, mom, can you make me a sandwich? No, I'm so good. Right? Right? Okay. That's a failure to launch. Yeah. So time management's important and the way I would do it is it would wake up into your morning routine and move your body, the meditation, the whatever it is that you have in the morning. Right? Then I'd wake up shower and start my day. And you know, it sounds to me like you've got three or four different things going on. Right? So what you do is you you have blocks of time and you go, okay, from 10 to one, I'm interviewing people. And then I'm going to go grab a bite to eat. I'm going to come back and then from three to five, I'm cutting this up. And then from six to seven, I'm posting and doing all my stuff and asking my friends to post and all that nonsense, right? And whatever this is, you block in the time for it and you add 20 minutes for any one of these majors. Yes, that you're doing. So that way you don't put pressure on yourself. And then you know, and you make a list, you put it in your calendar, right? And then you know what you do. What am I going to do? Finish something to do across it off the list. Oh, yeah. It's my favorite thing to do. Favourite. I love coming and talking to people who are a very experienced, especially with human interactions like yourself, I know you've probably come across thousands of people opening up your spot out here in Malibu because I feel like I'm such a baby still when it just comes to this entire new life and maneuvering and creativity and money and friends and family. Because my family all grew up in like the middle of nowhere in Mexico on a little tiny brick house. You know, so coming here, that's why I like to ask things like that. I know that you've seen people who are, have had everything go down, come back up, go back down, come back up to you. So I like taking other people's life experiences and see how I can use it, how other people can use it and just help me and my friends, my buddies, my family, my little brother, my mom, my dad, in a way like that. You want children? I do, but not yet. I feel, I know people my age that have children. Why am I not ready? Well, why? Because you're a kid. Yeah. Okay, you're not fully established. Okay. You want to make certain that you have your ducks in a robe. Yeah, you have kid. Now it's never going to be people think kids cost you money. They make you money. Okay, trust me on this one. Yeah. So you are going to have children at some point. Yeah. And when you talked about the brick house. Yes. Right. I'm thinking, well, at least it's not straw or wood. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And because I used to tell my kids the story before they went to bed about the three little pigs. Right. But I put a little twist on it. Right. Do you want to hear it? Yes. You can tell your kid. Ready. Yes. Okay. Daddy, will you tell me the story in a zig-zag? See little pigs? Of course, baby. So once upon a time there were three little pigs. Okay. There was the baby brother pig, the middle pig, and the older pig, the oldest pig. And one day, open the door or I'm going to huff and puff and blow your house down. And this little piggy was like afraid because that was the big bad wolf. And so he goes, wait a minute. And then he runs out the back door of the house. And just as he runs out the black door, the wolf huffs and puffs and blows the house down. When he runs next door to the middle brother's house, the middle brother's house made out of wood. And he's so scared. Yes. Don't worry. You're here. You're here. Don't worry about it. This is the big bad wolf. Open the door. I'm going to puff and I'm going to puff and I'm going to blow your house down. Just wait a minute. And they run out the back door to the big brother's house. And just as they do that, the wolf huffs and puffs blows the house to smithereens. But they go next door to their big brother's house. And their big brother has this big, huge 12,000 square foot, brick, gorgeous, Georgian colonial. Right. I mean, it's breathtaking. And they go next door and they don't see their older brother and the door of knocks. And it's the big bad wolf. And the older brother comes down in his smoking robe and he's smoking a cigar. Does he have that watch on too? He's got the watch. Oh, okay. And he looks at any and the his younger brother's like, don't answer the door. It's a big bad wolf. And so he's like, yeah, whatever. And he walks over and he slides that thing over with the little thing so he can see who's there. And he goes, open this door where I'm going to huff and puff and blow your house down. And the pig looks at him, blows smoke through the thing and he goes, do what you want. And he closes the door and the wolf is out of his mind and he's huffing and he's puffing and he's losing his mind. But what the big brother did was when he closed it, he looks at his two little brothers and he grabs a baseball bat and he says, I'll be right back. Don't open the door. And he goes around the property and as this guy's puffing and puffing, he goes around and he comes up behind him and he just beats the out of this guy. Uh-huh. Just kicks his grabs him by his hair and tosses him in the garbage. And then what and he looks at him, he says, don't come back. You're again. And that's the story of the three little pigs. I hear the story or great story teller. What was that supposed to teach me out the big brother than the younger brothers? What? What would I take away from that story about the big brother helping out his younger brothers beating the out of a big bad wolf? Nothing. I just didn't remember the story. I had to tell my kids something. I feel like my dad was telling me a bedtime story. That's right. Yes, I was doing. You're a great story. I feel like you should be an actor. When you went, it's the big bad wolf. I envision the cop in a movie just like knocking on the door. Like get out of here. Was he in a wolf costume? No, he wasn't. I imagine you do it with the hat and like the little... Doesn't... Doesn't go. Hey, yeah, do you think I would do with modeling in fashion? I think you would do great. You're great at talking. You got a nice little spiffy shirt on. Nobody wants to hear from a model talk. That's the whole idea. The models don't know how to talk. So they keep their mouths shut and they do it like this. I just saw Zoolander the other day and I just have you ever seen the movie? Never. It's like making fun of the fashion industry and the overexagger. I forgot the main actor's name was Ben Stiller. They always have him making this face. He's like looking at the camera. But I felt like I'm more so I love going out talking to people doing interviews. I think you would kill that. Go out on the block with a mic. Y'all take the camera. Speak to people. You'd be great. I can see you in a Georgia or Monia. In a Georgia or Monia? Yeah. Don't they usually have younger, cool looking people? Maybe it's like more of like a musk scent on there. They're new cologne. You're there in the water. Dude, I could model the dad genes and have them up to here. Right? And have the flood thing going on? I think that would be bad ass. Yeah. I want to style you. I mean, I'd rating that back. Oh, dude, you should like you could. You should come back anytime you want and style me up with the vision that you have for this. I think you could do it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, if I ever lose all my money, I'll do that. Okay. Baby, you don't got to do it for the money. You got to do it for the love of it. Oh, I don't know. I wouldn't want that. Okay. Do you do what you do for the love of the money? Like podcasting this that I do the podcasting because all the kids are dying of and that's why I grabbed a lot of kids in the underground rap scene. It was hurting them the most. And so I wanted to stop that right away. And you know, they don't want to hear from me, but when they hear from famous dicks or little sand or warhol or something like that, they're like, yeah, this is stupid. You know, so that is just an idea I had. This is it monetized. We don't have any sponsors or any nonsense like that. We only have 20,000 people on episode listening to this now. But we've been up open for five minutes plus. I like how you say only because I know you have the vision to like millions. See, I'm so pissed off. I know I'm nobody, but I like do this and I'm like pissed. I'm like, why don't I have a million people listening to this? The thing is it's great content. It just takes time. Like when I was making I want it now. Like I was making this. I won't point it. I'm like, this is so good. Why is nobody watching? And then you just keep making them and then one day they come, you know, I'm like, you know, this, you know, two years down the line, you're going to be big dog up on there. Hey, I'm trying to get on Richard's podcast. I know. But you were funny. I was, I was about three weeks ago. I was walking on Main Street. Yeah. And three kids with facial tattoos and all the ice and all the ink and the baggy pants and everything. They recognized me and they took selfies with me. That's awesome. Is that the demographic you're trying to reach? I'm trying to reach any kid. I'm trying to reach all the kids because the kids are the ones dying because here's the thing. Everybody had a right to experiment with drugs and alcohol when I was kid. Yeah. You guys don't have that anymore. Yeah. As we're out of time. Okay. We are out of time. You do one bump of something and you're dead. Yeah. 70% of these things have **** it and 42% of them have legal, uh, uh, uh, lethal doses. Yeah. I, that's a big reason why I'm, I thought I need to become sober. I need to tell my friends or get away from, tell my friends, try to help them. You know, a lot of times people don't listen and just move on because you can integrate into somebody's brain. But I know I have friends that I used to hang out with. Let's say 2019. We were doing this and that. They're going to watch this and personally be like, okay, like this might be another wake up sign I'm watching Jared. He's done so much in his life. Well, I've still been here that hopefully it reaches them at some point some way. That is so nice. I wish I would have heard it because the only thing I was thinking about was platform shoes. Do we have platform shoes now? Oh, those are sick. Wait, what'd you think I was going to do? You're like, no, no, those are sick. Yeah. I knew rock. Those are God. That's what people wear. Does it really? Yes. Oh, God. See, I am a fashionista. Yeah. Yeah. If you go through my pages, a lot of girls wearing this, emo's wearing it, regular people wearing it and they love the platforms are coming back. They're in. They're in. Yeah, they're in. Where are the platforms too? Everybody, you can wear the platforms. Chicks can wear the platforms. He can wear the platforms. I'd be so handsome at six foot six six or five. Okay, six foot four. I'll take six foot four. I'll take six foot one at that point then. Okay, I'll take six foot one. Yeah. I really want to be a little taller than you. I'll be six foot two. You can be six foot one. Are we not the same right? Sure. All right, bro. So listen, yes. Thank you so much for coming today. Thank you. So appreciate this has been so fun. And thank you for being a great sport. Yeah. As well. You got anything you want to plug, tell people where you're going to be anything. I'm going to be a Los Angeles born and raised out here. I love this city. I love the people of this city working on a lot of new serieses. Like I said, I'm coming out on my YouTube Instagram, TikTok platform, but I didn't come here to plug anything. I just came here to have a good conversation and you has see what's going on. And your soul is completely good. The fact that guys come here. I love the younger generation who has this social responsibility and wants to come on and talk about something so serious. Yeah, and you have a more serious podcast. You know, I've hopped on somewhere where we're like playing games and they're asking me like silly little questions, but coming on, being able to talk about something real that's going on and hopefully someone gets inspired to better themselves is really what it's about nowadays. It is. Where can people reach you? What are the handles you've got? Jared Murrow's on everything. J-R-E-D, M-U-R-O-S, post-fashion content. I post interviews, it's strangers every single day. And talk to a lot of different personalities. That's really it. That's what I'm saying. And I really enjoyed it. Thank you. I really do. See you next Tuesday. We're out of time. Please subscribe on YouTube, click the thumbs up and leave a comment. Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review and share the we're out of time podcast with others you know who will get value out of it. See you next Tuesday.