Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan

Confidence Classic: The Mindset Shifts That Help You Break Out of a Rut with Heather!

29 min
Jul 15, 20263 days ago
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Summary

Heather Monahan discusses mindset shifts for breaking out of ruts, focusing on self-talk, recognizing regression to past behaviors as growth, and embracing the "messy middle" of your story. She shares personal experiences of being fired, divorce, and pandemic disruption, emphasizing that setbacks are redirections, not endings, and that taking messy action with faith in the unknown is key to discovering your life's purpose.

Insights
  • Negative self-labeling creates a ceiling on potential; changing internal dialogue directly influences how others perceive and treat you
  • Recognizing regression to past behaviors is a sign of maturity and self-awareness, not failure—it's an opportunity to reset and move forward with grace
  • Major life setbacks (job loss, divorce, business disruption) are redirections in the middle of your story, not endings; looking back reveals how they led to unexpected opportunities
  • The 'messy middle' of uncertainty and inexperience is where the most excitement and growth happen; expertise can lead to complacency and reduced joy
  • Taking messy action without perfect knowledge or conditions is more effective than waiting for ideal circumstances; the word 'yet' is powerful for building momentum
Trends
Shift from perfectionism to progress-oriented mindset in personal development and entrepreneurshipReframing setbacks and career disruptions as narrative redirections rather than failuresGrowing emphasis on self-compassion and grace-based thinking over self-criticism in high-performing professionalsIncreased focus on faith-based decision-making and stepping into uncertainty as a competitive advantageRecognition that early-stage inexperience and 'rookie' status can be more energizing than established expertiseImportance of leveraging past successes as evidence for future capability in new domainsShift toward viewing the journey and process as the primary value, not just the destination
People
Heather Monahan
Host sharing personal stories about overcoming job loss, divorce, and building multiple businesses including bestsell...
Gary Vaynerchuk
Referenced for advice about celebrating the journey; Heather was a guest on his show, Gary Vee Audio Exchange
Alicia Keys
Referenced in interview discussing uncertainty and hopefulness in early career stages
Quotes
"Maybe the reason why you haven't been getting the things you wanted is you deserved so much better. But you had to let go of that mediocre. You had to let go of that average so that you could grab the great."
Heather Monahan
"Sometimes we don't even notice how we're speaking to ourselves or how we are labeling ourselves. And doing that puts us beneath others. Doing that is a major holdback."
Heather Monahan
"What if it's not the end? What if it's just the middle? These are moments in time. They are not the end. They are the middle, the messy middle."
Heather Monahan
"I don't have to have all the expertise in the world. You don't have to be the one with all the degrees. You can be the one that says, I haven't figured it out yet, but I have faith that I will."
Heather Monahan
"When I stopped asking everybody else what they thought I should do, that's when I started figuring out what I was meant to do. And that's a really powerful moment."
Heather Monahan
Full Transcript
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And in order to grab that great, you have to let go. Come on this journey with me. Each week when you join me, we are going to chase down our goals, overcome adversity, and set you up for a better tomorrow. I'm ready for my close-up. Tell me, have you been enjoying these new bonus confidence classics episodes we've been dropping on you every week? We've literally hundreds of episodes for you to listen to. So these bonuses are a great way to help you find the ones you may have already missed. I hope you love this one as much as I do. Hi, and welcome back. I'm so glad you're back here with me this week. Okay, so I wanted to share a quick story about a woman that I do some coaching for. She's incredibly successful. She is in corporate America. She's a senior vice president of one of the largest companies in the U.S. And a rock star, complete and total rock star. But like most of us, you know, she has her moments where she needs someone to give her a hand and help pick her up. And she wants to run ideas against somebody else who's been in similar situations, which is super smart. I completely get it. Well, this week I was very taken aback by a meeting that I had with her. she sent me a text message and said, hey, is there any chance we can meet this week? We weren't supposed to meet this week. And I said, yeah, of course, we'll find time. We got on the calendar, found the time. And as soon as I got on the call with her, she says, this is so dumb. And she kept saying that. I know this is so dumb, but listen, hey, listen, this is really dumb. This, I don't know what's going on. I'm being so dumb. And before she could get anything else out of her mouth, I just stopped her and said, first of all, whatever it is, it's not dumb. You're not dumb. You're one of the most successful, smartest people I know. So let's fire that, right? The point that I want to make for you right now is sometimes we don't even notice how we're speaking to ourselves or how we are labeling ourselves. And doing that puts us beneath others. Doing that is a major holdback. So this week, today, notice how are you speaking about yourself? What are the words that you're using about you to you and to others? And I talk about this a lot. We teach other people how to treat us. If you're running around through the world, telling people you're dumb, they're going to believe it eventually, right? Maybe not right off the bat, but at some point in time, if you sell someone something long enough, they're probably going to buy it. So don't call yourself dumb. Call yourself things that you would like other people to emulate. Meaning, once I heard what her predicament was, it wasn't that she was being dumb. It was she was regressing to past behavior in her life, right? So we all grow and change and evolve. We're not the same people we were when we're one year old as we are today. It's normal. It's evolution in our lives and growth in our life. And that's totally normal and expected. If you're not having growth in your life, you get a problem. So when you notice, hmm, I'm noticing that I'm behaving in a way that I used to behave when I was younger that didn't serve me. That's amazing. It's incredible self-awareness, being reflective, which is so mature and insightful. Right. And it's noticing a regression to a past behavior that you had fired, terminated, and you no longer signed up for. And now you're saying, hey, I'm doing this again. This is temporary. I want to pause and I want to dig deep into this so that I can get it out of my life again. So to me, though, there was nothing dumb about the situation. It was the opposite. It was incredibly intuitive and smart and reflective. And and I was so proud of her. Right. So I want you to feel that same kind of pride. If you have a moment today or this week where you notice a behavior that comes up, that's something that you no longer subscribe to. give yourself the grace for a moment and say, hey, I recognize that isn't my best, but that's in my past. That's in my rear view. And I noticed it. I hit the brakes. I took a moment. I reset and I move forward in a better direction. That's growth, right? So give yourself the praise, give yourself the recognition instead of turning it into a beat up session, which will not help you. I will never forget this. I was in therapy for so long in my, I think all of my twenties and thirties. And my therapist said to me, anytime that I'd beat myself up for making a bad decision or a bad choice, she'd always say to me, how's that panning out for you? How's that working out for you? Beating yourself up all the time. Does that help you? No, it never did. I felt worse the next day, felt more upset the more I'd beat myself up. So I learned whether you need to take a picture of yourself when you're a small little baby or an adorable child and pull that out of your wallet and look at it and say, do I want to beat this person up? Right, whatever you need to do to get yourself to hit the brakes and say, beating myself up is not helpful. It's not successful. I make mistakes all the time. I actually, today, I was putting pressure on my son. I wanted to order some presents for him for Christmas. So I have something under the tree because he hasn't given me a list yet. And there's just not a lot of stuff in stores right now. So you have to order things online. And so I don't feel comfortable waiting to the last minute. So he put some things in some carts and I just pulled the trigger and bought it. And later on today, he said, hey, you didn't pull the trigger on that stuff, right? I hadn't decided what I really wanted and I don't really want that stuff. And I thought, oh my gosh, you've got to be kidding me. And I said, well, you know what? Here's the thing. I'm doing the best I can. In fact, I'm trying to accelerate things so I can have gifts here for you at the house. I did pull the trigger and he was upset. He said, well, I don't think those are the things I want. And now you're wasting money. And right. He was trying to be helpful. I was getting a little frustrated. But then I just I gave us both grace and I said, listen, we're not going to do everything perfectly all the time. That's OK. However, I'm coming from the right place in my heart that I want to have gifts for you under a Christmas tree. Right. For Christmas, you're coming from the right place that you don't want to waste money. But, you know, we're both doing the best we can. So, yes, I did pull the trigger. Yes, the stuff is on its way here now. And you know what? In the end, if you don't like it, we can always return it or exchange it or we can give it away as a gift to somebody else. So let make the best of it And let recognize we not always going to do everything perfectly And that perfectly okay So I hope that message resonates with you today I hope you can land it and use it in your life if you need it today or this week Because I definitely have my moments where I need to use it for me And I love that idea of having that picture of little me and looking at that picture and saying I don want to beat that little girl up In fact I want to take care of that little girl protect her I want to elevate her I want to cheer her on So I going to speak to me that way today to make sure I doing those things for her And I hope you're doing the same. If you had been around this house the last couple of months, you would know total chaos. My son had graduation, a 19th birthday party, a going away for the summer. There was a lot going on. 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So I just got a short DM on LinkedIn and said, hey, Heather, it's amazing what you've overcome and where you are now. The reminder that it's not the end when it feels like it is, is really helpful for me. So that whole idea, and I want to talk to you about this, about your life. and I know what she's talking about is that in a moment, so for me, in the moment I was getting fired, it totally felt like the end. I don't want to fool you and pretend it didn't. I was having panic attacks. I thought it was over. I had a non-compete, non-solicit. I could not go back to the industry I had expertise in for 18 months. I didn't know how I was going to make money. I'm a single mom. I have mortgage. I have bills coming out my ears, right? I have a big life. And I was shocked I had been fired. I truly thought for a window of time that it was over. It was the end. And probably for about 24 hours, I felt that way. I was under a weighted blanket. I was freaking out, bawling my eyes out. And when I eventually came to, that's when I posted, hey, I've just been fired. If I've ever done anything to help you, I need to hear from you now. And that post went viral. Landed me on the Elvis Duran show, which is where I discovered I was writing a book, which is what led me to Confidence Creator, my first book, which killed it on Amazon, number one on Amazon the first week it came out and very recently named to the top business books for women by Forbes, right? It's done so incredibly well. And that initiative, writing that book is what opened the door for me to become top 50 keynote speaker in 2022. Get my first TEDx talk, land my board seat, launch my consulting business, launch my podcast, which right now is number 25 on the top business podcast in the US on the Apple podcast chart. So all these things were unknown to me. I had no idea. I had to move from, this is the end of my story. My story is over. I feel like everything's over. I feel like everything's been taken away from me. I had to move from that to, this is a redirection. This is the middle of my story. I have no idea where I'm going, but I'm going to accept that no, it is not over. It is far from over. In fact, I just don't know where I'm going next, but I'm turning the page on the middle of the story and I'm about to see what's going to happen next. So I started stepping forward in faith, like this whole idea of I can't see what's next. I don't know where to go. It's not well lit. There was no linear path, but having this faith that there's something larger out there guiding me, that there's something larger out there, that something bigger is meant for me. And I just don't know what that means exactly yet. And stepping out into the unknown at first can be incredibly scary because you think you're going to fall and you think you're going to fail and you think it could be all over. And what if it is the end? But what if it's not? What if it's just the middle? You know, and look back in your life, There are moments of time, like for me, when getting divorced was another big moment, right? Oh my gosh, is this it? Is it over? Am I never going to find love again? Am I never going to be married again? Right? What does this mean? Is it all done for me? And it turns out, no, it wasn't, right? These are moments in time. They are not the end. They are the middle, the messy middle. And the messy middle can seem so uncomfortable, but can give you the greatest gifts that you never even knew were out there for you. Maybe the reason why you haven't been getting the things you wanted is you deserved so much better, but you had to let go of that mediocre. You had to let go of that average so that you could grab the great. And in order to grab that great, you have to let go. And so for me, whether it was my marriage or it was getting fired and being unhappy in a job, The key was letting go of what wasn't working so you could start stepping into that unknown, that messy middle to figure out what you're really meant for. And I know it's not always easy. I'm living it. I am living proof, right? I promise you it's not always easy, but it is worth it. And I just believe that God has you here for a reason. And it's something big and meaningful and so important. And it's our job and right to find out what that is. and in order to do that, no one's handing us that gift or handing us that answer. It's up to us to step into the darkness to step into the unknown to start figuring it out And it truly does start taking shape But you will only know these things when you look back you can know them looking forward right I can tell you how many different partnerships and business plans and business proposals I've worked on for different product lines. It's ridiculous. Many of them, most of them have not worked out. But my first two books worked out amazing. This podcast, the one you're listening to right now has worked out amazing. My board seat has worked out amazing. There's been so many things that have worked out incredibly that I didn't know were going to happen. And that's what gives me further faith to keep moving forward in the unknown, keep stepping into the uncertainty. So start leveraging your past, those moments from your past where you say, oh, yeah, I got divorced, too. And it turned out it was the greatest thing that ever happened for me because I met my new husband or, you know, I started to really love myself or whatever it is for you. Write those things down and use those as the bedrock and foundation for you to step forward and have more faith that there is greater ahead for you, whether you're struggling right now or things are going well, right? You've got to find a way to start building that momentum to keep propelling you forward. And when times are tough and things are uncertain, it can be trickier. It can be more challenging. And those are the moments that you need to look back and say, wait a minute, this is familiar to me. It's so familiar for me. You know, I look at getting divorced. I look at getting fired. I look at when the pandemic hit, right? Because my speaking business had blown up and I was killing it and overnight it disappeared. But I said to myself, wait a minute, I've seen this movie before. These are, it's like these other times. I've got to start stepping into the uncertainty. Done is going to be better than perfect. I've got to take messy action and see where this leads me. I've got to have faith that there's something meant for me out there. I just don't know what it is yet. So today, tomorrow, this week, I'm asking you to give that same sentiment to your life, whatever it is. And I don't know if you just lost a job. I don't know if you're afraid to take the risk to start your own thing. Whatever it may be, start taking messy action. Don't expect to have all the answers. You will never be perfectly ready and the climate will never be perfect. But I know that when I look back on my life, at the end of my life, when I'm 999 years old, no, whatever age I'm going to be. But at the end of my life, I can always look back and say, I'm the one that took messy action. I'm the one that has the books out there. I'm the one that took that leap of faith, not knowing what was going to happen, whether I would sell one book or 1 million. I had no idea, but I knew if it could serve and help one person, then I had done my job. So take that pressure off of you. take the risk on you, and listen to the one voice that matters so, so much, and that's your own. And you have these answers inside of you. I promise you that you do. When I stopped asking everybody else what they thought I should do, that's when I started figuring out what I was meant to do. And that's a really powerful moment. Okay, so you're in the middle of your story. And yes, I get what it seems like. And I liken this to when I was in corporate America, when I quote unquote made it, right? I'd made it to the C-suite. I was making a ton of money. I had multiple assistants. I had teams, multiple teams I was responsible for, but my main department was sales and I had over a thousand people in that department. So I had so much support, so much around resources and I had so much expertise and my network was so big because I had been in the industry for almost 25 years at that time. I wasn't, it didn't feel like I was in the middle anymore. It felt like I was at the top, right? And here's what's interesting about that. versus right now, because I'm so in the middle right now. I don't have, you know, 25 years expertise, podcast host or author or any of these things, right? I'm still a rookie. I'm only a few years in. And it's so interesting because now when I look back, I remember when I felt like I had made it to the top. There was a certain level. Yes, there's a certain level of you know how much money is coming in every month. Like, you know, like, there's, there's benefits, right? I'm not gonna lie about that. But there's much less excitement, right? Because there's very little unknown, I could forecast everything I knew what trends were taking place, quarters before they started to have, I could see things happening, because I had so much experience doing it. Now, as a rookie, I don't have that expertise. So it is exciting, because incredible things happen all the time. And they're unexpected, because I just don't have the knowledge that I had, I used to have. So start seeing being in the middle of your story as a blessing and a gift, and it truly will become one. And that's why I'm so excited to get up every day. I am living my life's purpose. I'm doing my life's work. I am helping to make the world a better place. And I hope in some small way I can do that for you. I hope to show up every day and try to bring positivity and some joy to to life for at least one person and definitely for myself and my son every day. When I thought I had made it, I didn't have this excitement every day that I have now. And it's a lot more fun to be excited and joyful every day than to be in the grind and feel like, huh, so this is it. And I remember I had that feeling. So if you're having that feeling right now, why not turn the page and get to the middle of your story, the messy middle, so you can start taking chances, you can start figuring out that you are meant for more. And you'll start seeing where that leads you and what that actually looks like. Another way that I can frame this up is when I first got into sales, and I was I don't know, 21 or whatever, my first sales job at the Gala Winery. I remember I would tell people when I first started, I'm going to be the number one salesperson here this year. It was like 99 men and two women. I was one of the two women. I'm not kidding. That's fact. And I would tell people and I was 21. Most people were like in their 40s, probably my age right now, had so much more experience than I did. But one thing I saw about them was they were set in their ways and they were complacent, not all of them, but most of them. They saw things through one lens, one way to do it. And I remember coming in there and saying, I'm going to see this so differently. Number one, I remember saying, I will outwork everybody here. I had this conversation in my head. I can work harder than anyone here. Number two, I'm a woman, which makes me different. I'm going to see things differently from the word go just because I was born different from these people. I have different strengths than they do. I'm going to find a different and better way to do it. And I didn't know what that was yet. And yet is the operative word here. And this is what I want you to think about. I want you to think about maybe you're in the medical business. And when you first started off, you didn't know all the answers yet, but you had faith that you would figure it out along the way. And now you have and apply that same reasoning and rationale to whatever that messy middle of your story is now. Right. So for me, when I first wrote Confidence Creator, I remember thinking, I have no idea what I'm doing. I am a total rookie novice author. Can I even call myself an author? Is that even legal? And I had to dial it down a little bit and say, wait a minute, I don't know what I'm doing yet. This is my first book, but there's a really good chance there could be more. And as I step forward in the unknown, I'll start to figure it out. Just like I did when I was a first time sales rep at the Gala Winery. And I would make these claims that I was going to be the number one salesperson of the year. And guess what? I was. And I'll tell you, I didn't know yet what I didn't know. But stepping into that messy unknown, turning that page, not knowing what was going to happen, being willing to double down and take chances on me and doing things differently is what allowed me to find success so quickly in that organization And now I retraining myself to say I don know what it like to be a New York Times bestselling author yet, but I will. And I have all the faith in the world that I will. I haven't figured out what that looks like yet, but I figured out these other things, which leads me to believe I'll figure these out too. 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Because listen, it still does. I still don't know millions of things that I'm sure I'm doing incorrectly because I just don't have the knowledge yet. There's that word again. I don't have it yet. But I keep taking messy action. I keep showing up. I keep asking for help. I keep doing the research. I keep reading the books. I keep accessing other people's content and researching things to try to find out what is that missing piece that I haven't discovered yet that's going to completely explode my business. And yes, I know on the outside looking in, people will often say your podcast is top 25 on the business podcast on Apple podcast. That's incredible. You're killing it. Your books are bestsellers. You were named top 50 keynote speaker of the year, you know, there's a lot of good on the outside, but living it on the inside, I still haven't made it yet. Right. So I know what it actually feels like to make it. Cause I did that back in corporate America and I haven't made it here yet. And it was funny. I was watching an interview on the news the other day with, it was Alicia Keys and people were showing her pictures of her earlier in her career. And one of the pictures, she said, Oh my gosh, I love that photo. And they said, why? And she said, I didn't know if I had quite made it yet. She said, and I can see that look in my eye. I was still so uncertain, but I was so hopeful. And I feel like that's where I am right now. And maybe you're right there too. And if you are, that is incredibly exciting and powerful. And I remember other times in my life when I felt that way. And I know how that movie played out. And you know what? I'm starting to really embrace the moment of living in the yet, the moment of living in the middle of the story. And for a long time, I didn't like that part. I remember Gary Vee saying to me when I was a guest on his show, the Gary Vee audio exchange that he said, you know, the journey is the whole thing, Heather, this is what's meant to be celebrated. And yeah, listen, I can, I get it, but I'm also not going to lie in corporate America when I was on the journey, it was hard, right? Being a salesperson and in the grind is really difficult when you don't have the network yet. You don't have the expertise yet. But once I did, it got a lot easier. So I had a hard time as an entrepreneur, an author, a podcaster, whatever, because I hadn't made it yet. And listening to someone who had made it tell me, this is the journey. This is what it's all about. It can be frustrating to hear that. So if you're in that moment, I totally feel you. I get you and I empathize with you. But the more we can realize we're just not there yet. We're in the middle currently, but we're going to keep turning those pages. We're going to keep taking the messy action and we're going to keep having faith that we will get to exactly where we're meant to be. And that much I do know, I do have all the faith in the world that we will find out what that is supposed to look like and that that best is yet to come. I'm for sure it's out there for you and it's out there for me. Keep taking messy action towards it. Keep the faith. Until next week, if you like this episode, share it, tag me, leave me a review. All of this stuff helps so much. And you can share the show with one friend. It would mean the world to me. No one succeeds alone. And that includes your girl. Until next week, keep creating your confidence. You know I will be. I'm on this journey with me.