Ty Dolla $ign

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey there, this is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not, the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside, and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the money podcast, the authority! Come on, talk about it. On all things, R&B! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It don't make dollars. It don't make sense. It's the truth. You feel me. You know, sometimes you need to make sure that as we are throwing our gifts. Sometimes! And then our services all over the world and the universe, that there is a reciprocation. That something comes back to let us know we are doing a good job. What I'm trying to say is this man has many dollars. Oh, a lot of dollars. He has so many dollars that he had to put the dollar in his goddamn neck. Ladies and gentlemen, our brother, the very own, Todd on the side! Yeah! Yeah! Appreciate y'all, man. I'm sitting next to some legends right now. Man, listen, brother, I'm starting it off like this. Nick, you cold. Appreciate you, bro. You cold, man. I'm listening to Free TC. All I hear is, LA! Man. Shout out to everybody involved on that one. Cord, Battle Cats, James Font LaRoy, Brandy, the homies D&D, Benjamin Wright with the strings. It was a movie. Because I'm a... Benjamin Wright on the strings. Disrespectful. Do your Googles, kids. Do your Googles. I'm just sitting there listening to it like... Because I'm an intro guy. I'm an intro interlude song. When you do those kinds of things, I'm listening to see what you're doing. Because I come from the Joda Sea. You understand what I'm saying? I come from Devante Swain, where interludes and intros are everything. That right there, my brother? I appreciate you. You weren't fucking around. The fact that... We're going to start off here, right? We're going to say it. I know y'all be talking about here rapper. This man is an R&B singer. I don't give a fuck what nobody... I know he was on The Freshman, double XL cover, which... Are you the only singer that might have ever got that? That same year, it was me and Augusta Alcina. Wow. Yeah, man. So they didn't have some R&B shit on there. But they throw you in this category of being a rapper. It's just like a natural... I woke up like this. Do you think that's what it is, or do you think it's because of the content? It's the content, it's because I look like this, but it's always melody in everything I've ever dropped. There's never been a monotone type. There's many people I can name, but I've never rapped if you really like pay attention. You can't find one verse where it's rapped. It's all singing. Is it because they don't know where to put you? Yeah, because it's like... When I came in the game, R&B was like... It never was like what I was doing. There's other people that kind of tapped in, but never just as far as I was at with the lyrics and the content and shit. So they had to kind of make a new thing for me. But people kept it in hip-hop, and then there was more after me. Absolutely. You know, the same kind of thing, talking crazy, but with melody. Because I just don't think people truly understand how gifted you are. You know what I mean? Just as they may try to... Because I think putting you in a rap category really diminishes all of the gifts that you have. Like you are all things. You can walk in that lab by yourself and get it completely done. And that's not what's talked about enough. I appreciate you for saying that, bro. A real deal, 100%. Lately I've been getting into this streaming world and shit. I got a Twitch... Shout the Twitch out, man. It's a Twitch slash Todd Dawson. I got a Fitch as well, you know how they say FENSTAR. I got a Fitch. I've never even heard of that. I got the Studio 1, 2 if you know you know. But I'm glad for that platform because people now get to see it. Like you said, people try to be like, oh, I didn't know you could play keys, I didn't know you played guitar, I didn't know you played bass, I didn't know you make beats, I didn't know you do this, I didn't know... I didn't even know you sing like that. Which is crazy to me because it's like... If you've ever been to a Tide All the Sign Show, you would know. And so many people have been, and so many people have put it online. But somehow there's this confusion or this narrative that I'm the rap guy. But thank you for saying that, bro, because I'm so far from that. And so I think we can even start there. Like we can even go back to where it was you, the musician, playing for... Teck! Immature! Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's one of my favorite groups. That's one of the guys. You know what I'm saying? You was one of the cats. You playing. Like this is not... So you just... I just seen Tank at the Brandy Monica show. So I was telling whoever I was with that day like nah, me and Brandy go back, back, back. I'm talking about a tour, I was nine years old. Brandy and Ray J. were singing backgrounds. I was playing keys. Framing mature. Shout out to all the guys, shout out to Chris and them. It was a lesson, you know what I'm saying, from early. It was like smoking weed for the first time. You were nine? I was nine years old, playing keys. The nine-year-old keyboard player is insane. But then people don't know how to play keys. But you gotta understand something, right? You gotta understand something. Like I saw Immature in concert. In the Kid Band. I saw, I was there. Baltimore Arena. Crazy. Right, and I'm like, I'm not saying to watch No Kids, perform. I'm like, yeah, I trippin'. I mean, I like their music and everything, but I'm not gonna go stay and watch No Kids, perform. Like my little girl group perform. I'm gonna get on out of here. My car is blocked in. I can't leave. You know what? I'm gonna stay and check it out. Niggas went crazy. It's crazy. Like I had never seen. I was like... Real superstars shit. From the band to the dancers, to them, the performance, everything. I was like, oh, this is another level. Like at the time I had a singing group, gospel group. We used to go around DC, Maryland, Virginia, go crazy. I said, I was watching that show. I wanna hear some of that. I don't know you was going dumb. I was going dumb. I was running every note. Every word was a run. Every word. I couldn't get it together. But as I'm watching this, this immature show, I'm like, man, we in our 20s. No, we're 1920. We're dope. We're fire. We can't follow them. We can't follow nothing they're doing. Our band ain't like theirs. Our sound ain't like theirs. Our show isn't like theirs. I'm talking like, I don't think people understand the level that immature was on from top to bottom. It was pro shit at nine years old. It was pro shit. That was that dude, Chris Cokes, man. He had his shit together. He had the vision. How do you even get that call at nine? My dad was homies with him. Basically, my dad had this story right here on Santa Monica and Vine. Yeah, music store, right? Nadine's here right next to Paramount. And everybody used to come through there from the easy E's or G's. Anybody from that time, and Chris Stokes was one of them. And some producing shit. And they was producing together. And one day my pops was like, yo, you should try out for this band that they got going on. So I tried out playing keys. Next thing you know, I'm on fucking Soul Train at the time. I'm on our senior hall show, nigga. All the shit at the time. So it was a crazy experience. It definitely, like I said, was like, for me, smoking weed for the first time and just loving it. Now I'm just been chasing that shit. But you started in church? Is that where you started? Nah, just started right there. Because your dad was in Lakeside. My dad was in Lakeside and he was in other groups. Fantastic voyage, nigga. But when did you start playing keys, though? Right then. Like, really from when I was four. Got you. My pops was like, he said when I was four years old, he was putting together Jermaine Jackson's show, like on some MD shit. Wow. And... You don't start out out there like that. For real. That's crazy. And he said he went to the bathroom one time after trying to learn this part. And all of a sudden he just hears the melody playing. And he just starts out as me, just by ear at four years old. So I've been on it. Wow. No, I don't know Lakeside. You want me to show us that deal with Lakeside? Come on, dawg. We did a show in Cincinnati together. We almost got arrested. You almost got arrested? No. Fuck you out here doing it, man. You're doing it. I decided to riot. That's crazy. You know how they have like in the park, when you do the big shows in the park, they'll have like this VIP section with the little lawn chairs out. And that's like 20 yards. And then they have the fence with the general population. I already know what you did. The VIP wasn't giving me the energy I need. I know where this is going. And I'm out there and they screaming going crazy, but they too far. I said, listen, if you are my real fans, I need you all to jump them fences and get up here. Oh, no. They jumped the fences, baby. And came to see a player. They're fire marshals. Not all of us, but I know a lot of us artists have took that same opportunity. Come on, man. They too far. I got to fill up people. And you know, the fire marshals. But yeah, I did many shows like Lakeside. You ever stage dive before? Have you stage dive before? I've never stage dive because I was on tour with the king of stage diving. Genuine. Wow. Genuine. So my stage diving was part of security going to get him. Genuine would stage dive every show. Imagine stage diving at the Esau's Fest. He's the only nigga I know who's ever done that. He's on top of black people. What? We at the House of Blues. Because I learned it's like certain things you could do with white crowds and certain things you can't do with black crowds. Black people going out. Like going out throwing water and shit like that. Try that on a black crowd. Stonest water. No. Man, we must have did that shit in New Orleans one time, bro. Damn, they had to fight the whole club and shit. It was crazy. You got to understand at this time, Genuine is, you know, he's Jesus. Yeah. This time, this is 97. Oh, he's coming. He's Jesus. And he's jumping out into that crowd and they are tearing him to pieces. Yeah. He's trying to sing Pony in the crowd. I'm doing the best, bro. But not. That's all you hear. That's all you hear. And the security guys are too big to get in to move the ladies around to. Yeah. So here comes little on me at this time. I'm like 155, 160 and I'm just. So you see me with Genuine on my shoulder walking back to the stage. No. I never wanted to stage dive ever again. I watched him do it. I watched him get sued. See, that was a lot of shit to come along with. A lot of shit to come along with that. I watched him tear his clothes. I watched him scratch his back in his face. I lose jewelry. Jewelry. I said, no, no, sir. Yeah. So you staged off. I used to stage that. And then I seen one of the homies get sued for stage diving and I never did it again because I noticed it's just like that one point where the artistry goes to another level. And then they just be looking to try to see where it's at. Yep. So as he dive, I'm suing. Where they piled up. But you know what? You have, you also like. You got that type of music. As we talk about how talented you are in this musical space, you also have those pockets and zones that you go into that lend to that mosh pit. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes I get beside myself. So I'm just telling you if I was on stage with you and you went into one of those records and it looked good out there. If it looked Caucasian. If it looked. And niggas that was that was that when you go with this kind of if it looked white niggas. I'm on my way. I'm going to ask your permission first. So you might if I get a little bit of that. You go into one of them bars and I just can't help myself. You definitely got to ask now. Hey, y'all see this on camera. Yeah. And they ask these niggas. They can't sue me. Hey there. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring Podcast playlist is available now. Whether Spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring playlist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So give me the journey in so many words. Man, we already went from four to nine. From four to nine, you're okay. So you're already gifted from God. 100%. We got that. Like you're a child prodigy. How do you get from nine to being a pure musician and learning all these things from tour and performance and all of these things? To Tide D'Alessan. Here we go. So from nine, there was like this one point where my dad was like, oh, you got to back off from this immature shit. There was some shit going on. So I started my own groups. I got a group with my brother and just the homies and then we ended up not doing that. And then one of my dad and them find this girl and then it's me, my brother and this girl in a group. Her name was Angelica. Shout out to her and her family. We did that group for a while. Never ended up getting a deal. And then I'm just back in school. I got to finish middle school. I got to finish high school and just growing up in LA. It's like, all right, you coming from that, but then it's LA. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And at my high school, my first high school I went to was Hamilton. So at this school. That's the music school, right? Hamilton Music Academy. By the time I'm in like what, 11th grade, I meet this little nigga named Omarion, right? Oh, is going to my school. He's just like a homie that always comes up, dancing and shit and rapping. He used to like freestyle, but niggas never knew he sung. All of a sudden I don't see this nigga no more. He used to come to the house. We record. Everybody knew I made beats and shit like that. Yeah. But I wasn't like on the singing shit so much no more after these groups. I was more so hard becoming an LA, you know, high schooler, but I'm making beats. That's what I do. I'm pulling the bitches. Oh, disappeared. Meet Nipsey. Nipsey's at the school too. Couple other homies. But next thing you know, this group come out of nowhere, B2K with the same crew that I was with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But oh, never, we never had these covers. I never even knew he sung none of that shit, right? They should just blow out the water, but I still got that bug in me. Like, I'm like, I can't wait, you know, to my shit. So there you go, sir. Yeah. So fast forward, fast forward. When I'm like 18 and I get out of high school somehow, oh, dude, my pops again. I get home to my apartment. I have my own apartment at this time. And when I get there, it's this dude in my apartment named John Lampkin, who's this drummer. And my dad let him, I don't know, he must let him in my shit. I don't even know how the nigga got into my apartment to this day. I didn't do nothing to him. But we ended up chopping it up. He was listening to my music. He was like, oh, that's shit. Your dad played. If your shit is crazy, I want to introduce you to one of my peoples. So he introduces me to this guy named Kamara Campbell. Kamara was working at Virgin Records. He was also the guy that was producing with Dr. Dre at the time. Eminem, my name is Mary J. Blige. So he started introducing me to all those people, signed me. I guess the deal fell through over there at Virgin. But he's still putting me into scoring movies and shit. So he's scoring movies at the time and like including me. Some shit called Havana Night, some shit called Biker Boys, some shit called The Cookout with Queen Latifa. And you can hear my old music in there like before I was tied out with time, right? Are you singing on those songs too? Yeah, it's just my songs at the time. After that, we ended up stop working and shit, whatever the deal fell through. He wasn't getting paid no more, so he didn't have no more money for me. So I go back to the drum board. I'm just working, working, working, working, working all the time to where I'm at this guitar center right here on Sunset. I meet this dude named Etc. I'm like just making beats on the keyboards. Me and the homies used to just go in there and just start sequencing on the keyboards and shit. Hopefully somebody hear me, nigga. Guitar center is like LA Fitness for Hoopers. Exactly. Yeah, for the musicians, all y'all niggas. I would go in there and play the drums. You could always find a Cole Young nigga in a guitar center. And there's probably somebody right there right now, you feel me? But I meet this dude named Etc. Who's hearing the beats. He started rapping and shit. I'm like, yo, come out to the car. I'm gonna play you some more shit. He playing me. I mean, I'll play him some shit. He rapping. He like, oh, whenever you come to New York, hit me up at the same time. I meet some other dudes out there named Randy and all of them who bring me out to New York. While I'm in New York, somehow I meet the G-Unit dudes. I'm going over there playing them beats. Just like, you know, just meet motherfuckers. So are you moving as a producer? I was moving as a producer for real. When I get to Etc. He got this dude over there named Corey. Corey's like this dude from Brooklyn with a tone damn near exactly like Raphael Sadiq, right? Oh, shit. So me and him just like, start making songs. Next thing you know, we made a whole tape together. Somehow we got to Utah, Salt Lake City Sundance Film Festival, Etc. Convinced us to go out there because you can meet some producers or directors and maybe get the shit in some films. Yeah, you chasing it. Yeah, so we go out there. We meet this other dude named Peezy. Peezy the weed man. But he got a studio at his crib. So we start hanging out with this guy all the time. Next thing you know, we end up in Utah for months nigga. So you living in Utah? I'm just out there, bro. So back and forth from Utah to New York and shit. O5. My daughter's born. I'm still doing, you know, projects with Corey. Next thing you know, me and Corey somehow beat this guy named Venus Brown. Venus Brown is connected to Justin Timberlake and Will I Am. They ended up signing us to a situation with the time Corey thing. We ended up making volume two of the mixtapes that we were making. One day Corey came to me. He was like, man, this shit don't work this time, bro. I got to move back to New York. I'm like, damn bro, for real. He's like, yeah, I'm like, all right, bro, we gonna try to push through you feel me? Because of Justin and Will I Am, we've been meeting all these different people. We getting features from everybody doing all this different shit. Same time, I met the homies from Syrocreative Partners, Taz Arnold, Shafiq, Omas. And I'm playing for them. Same time, like making beats. They're the first people to ever give me a feature, Ty and Corey feature on their project. Came out on the vinyl. I'm like, oh, we on a vinyl now? They're good. All type of shit. So it's that time with Corey's like, you know what? I got to go. You know, it's not working. Next thing you know, my big homie from my hood, Big B, he's like, yo, I got this kid that you need to meet. He from Bompton. He running the streets right now. Like I'm telling you, you need to work with him. This is when my space is popping. I listen to the music and I'm not fucking with it. It's like the song called Sheer Model. This song called, I forgot the rest of the song names, but the artist name was YG, right? And it was jerk music because that's what was popping in LA at the time. So they come through and Mustard was like the DJ. YG had a whole crew called Push Inc. A whole bunch of people from LA from all different hoods, like all across the city. And we ended up throwing like a party at my ball in Hills House. And when we throw the party, Mustard put on this song called Geeked Up by D-F-O-L. And when I'm hearing it, everybody get up, all the girls go crazy. Everybody start twerking on, you know what I'm saying? All this shit. And I'm just like, why is this... Why is this connecting like that? Why is this connecting like that? And I'm studying the beat. It's just like drums only and vocals. And I'm like, all right, jerk music, down south music, what all... Okay, the snap, the 808, the hi hat, that all. All right, let me make something like this. Next morning, we going through records and shit, me and my homie, Quaritz. And we come across this sample and we sample it. We do a whole bunch of sampling. The next morning after that, I do the drums and the beat ends up being too, then booted. It's me on the song, doing the hook. My cousin TC4800 with a verse. YG comes through. And this is the second song we ever made. It wasn't my favorite song that I ever made. Because like I said, I just came from working with fucking Timberlake, Will I Am, on B-shit, meeting niggas like fucking Benjamin Wright and all the best of the best of the best, right? And then this song right here is a song that just gets us on fire. And we start having shows and we get our first... What are you doing with the song? Like you got the song. I got the song and this is the first time. That shit went to the streets. This is the first time because like I said, I'm doing songs to all these people in Hollywood and the big artists. But this is the first time it's like, oh, let's go do this party. Let's go to this little party right here. It's like 2010 too, right? Yeah, 2010. 2009, 2010. And we're going and doing the motorcycle clubs. We doing hood days. We doing all the little shit in the main LA, not Hollywood. And then we might go out to fucking Orange County or we might go out to wherever just wants to book the shit because the jerk shit was booming and there was parties and it was connecting. And I started to do more beats and I started to do beats for the whole push-ink and like, why do you end up going to jail? And then me and Joe Moses was connecting like tough and I did this song for him called Go Bitch. And that was just like piggybacking off the Tudor and Buddha. And we was just doing all these little shows till the next thing you know, Hollywood called, I think it was called Club Kiss or some shit. And they was going to give YG 10,000 to come perform. And he gave me full hundred to come do the hook and gave Mustard full hundred to DJ. And once I seen him walk away with that stack, I'm like, oh shit, nigga, I'm about to take this artist shit seriously. I'm going to make my own shit. I make this project called House on the Hill. I bring it to his same person that signed him, Max Goose. Shout out to Max. Shout out to Max. Shout out to Max. But they ended up letting Max Goose go from Def Jam and they hired Karen Kwok. So I bring it to Karen Kwok. Shout out to Karen Kwok. And I play her the House on the Hill and she says, man, you're really fucking good, bro. But let me be honest with you, you're all over the place. You got a fucking R&B record. You got some like turnt up shit. You got some house music on here. You got this because like you said in the beginning, bro, I can tap into all the different things. But she was like, yo, just make me one project is just fully cohesive. Right? And I swear to God, that's what changed my life. I went and I made Beach House one and it was more just like all me on the beats, me in my homie Nate 3D and more slow R&B shit. But still talking that shit. And then that's the first thing that finally caught on. That's when I had my Cabana fast forward 2012. I won't even talk about the other one. There was some other song that I put out where I sample Swedish House Mafia and the fucking radio station started to play it. And I'm even getting booked in Phoenix and Texas and all this shit off of this song. It was called All Star. And then I ended up getting the Ceasandesis. Ceasandesis. I knew that was coming. I think that's Swedish House Mafia. Yeah. Yeah. So they gave me the Ceasandesis and I had to take that down. But the Beach House started working. I had that song, My Cabana. Then I ended up getting the Ceasandesis from that because I had a Skrillex and Zed sample in there. And I just remade the beat on Fruity Loops and myself and replayed everything and, you know, GZ featured on it. Then I got my first deal. But it wasn't because of that song. I got my deal with Atlantic because I made this song called Fumble. And Fumble was supposed to be on Beach House One, but somehow it got in the hands of Trey Songs. And Trey Songs cut it, put it out, ended up being one of the best songs on his album at the time. And then from there. Wait, but you didn't even know it was going to him. I didn't even know it was going to him at first. But then they called me last minute like, oh, he's going to put it out. Da-da-da-da-da. What you want to do with the splits. Who's all on it? I'm like, fuck it. Let him get it. And that's what gave Sean Barron the power with Aaron Beyshuk to be like, yo, sign this kid because we were already going to Mike Karan. And Mike Karan was trying to like sign me to his side shit. He wasn't trying to sign me to Atlantic. And when he brought me in the office, he told me, man, you're really good, Ty. You just like the way you're positioned right now. It's like, you're like the West Coast baby bash. And I didn't know what he meant by that, but then he meant like local. And I was like, I took offense there because I'm like, nigga, I make everything bro. My shit ain't no like local West Coast shit. I'm not a rapper like what nigga. So luckily shout out to Mike Karan though, because like a lot of the things he said made me who I am today too. Like one of his quotes was, I don't want to be or I don't have to be the first one to do it. I just want to be the best one to do it. Like he be saying shit like that. Like that just fully like changes my whole outlook. But fucking, yeah, Aaron Bateshook and Sean Barron made that shit happen 2012. And I've been on Atlantic ever since. And that's how we got here today, man. It's just been like those hurdles though. You know what I mean? Like immature all the way. So when it finally clicks, right? And you get your deal and you start to start seeing some bread. Do you do the musicians shit and do you buy more equipment and buy a studio? Yeah. Or do you do the nigga shit? Do a chain nigga. Like for you, what was like, what was your I'm successful now purchase? All right. So when I was 18 and I had the Kamara situation, I had already bought a car. Okay. And got shit like that. And then we all fucking had car accidents, had apartments, lost shit, then had to live with girls, do all that shit. Then fucking when I got with Venus and them and Will and Justin, I ended up getting another car, I ended up getting the crib still living with girls off and on. But I got the Buddha brown chain. A fat ass chain. Me and Corey got the chain. So I'm having a house nigga. I'm having BMWs. I'm having fat ass chains. And when YG and them see me, I'm the nigga. They got the big ass house. You cracked it. You already got the chain. Like, oh, this nigga it. So everybody looking up to me type shit. And then a nigga money was going down to where I had the house nigga, but my mother fucking water cut off, you know, my home. She cost a recipe at the time and they've given me a couple of dollars. You know what I'm saying? I turned the lights back on type shit. I went through all that, you know. And it's the music business kids. Absolutely. Absolutely. You'll have all that shit. It's a little like it, you know. But I was able to, you know, push through and get to here, bro. I did not realize that it was, it feels like you've been around forever. No, for sure. It really feels like that because I mean, I start 2000, but I guess the way you've impacted things, it just feels massive. As E40 would call it, you have been a fixture. Yeah, 100%. You know what I'm saying? Especially me being from the Bay Area, right? Yeah. I got to see it. You know what I mean? And being in LA at the time, but like being from the Bay and understanding, like you said, you get that record crack and you're doing the motorcycle clubs. You're doing four or five clubs in one night in the hood and different places. Like we have a different type of independence within California where we, you know, we do that San Luis Obispo. We do that Bakersfield. We do the, you know what I mean? All friends knows in the in between, then get up to the Bay or get back to LA. So I got to see it, especially with, with two of the booty cracked off for y'all because they loved YG in the Bay. Yeah. I want to say we probably fucked with YG heavier than anybody else in the beginning. For sure. Like the Bay was like, oh yeah. YG. I feel like that was our biggest. Oh my God. That was our first arena shows. Because for us, you guys in our mind, we're as an extension of Haife. Yeah. Nah. For us, it was the same shit. You know what I'm saying? Like because we had had the Haife movement, 04, 05 and you know what I mean? All those records that were coming out. And then what you guys did with it to me was smarter because y'all chose to go do deals. Yeah. I literally like listen, me and Kik the sneak had this conversation where Kik was like, J, they came to the Bay looking for me and I jumped out the car. I was like, what do you mean you jumped out the car? He said, I was so scared of the next level that we're riding. Stretcher tell you, you know, stretch. Stretcher tell you this. He said, I jumped out the car. I did not want to meet with him. I wanted to stay independent in my mind. I had this independent mindset that we've always built in the Bay area, right? This whole thing. And I always preach to people because they be talking about, you know, independence major. You're not making superstars independently. It's just the reality. Yeah. And people have to start realizing that. And if they can start naming me independent superstars, I'll agree. It's just the way to set up before you started. It's way too many things that are already in place. We live in a fucking tax-paying society, my nigga. You feel me? You gotta check in. Somehow. He said you gotta check in. That's the whole thing. Somehow. In every type of business. You know what I'm saying? Whether you want to tap into the alcohol, you want to tap into music, you want to tap into what's happening in the fucking food industry, the clothing industry. It's already fucking set. It's already set. And that's something that to me... So you can have a big percentage of nothing? The young LA cats understood that. Y'all understood that. A whole small percentage of something. Y'all went and did these major label deals and got super poppin'. You know what I'm saying? So I watched it happen, bro. But they also maintained their hustle, too. Absolutely. They had a hustle down with that major machine. With that machine behind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So to answer the question, like, I did some nigga shit before, but you know, luckily I had all those different mistakes to get to a point where, alright, once I got this house that I've been having for the last 10 years, bro, I was never losing that motherfucker. You feel me? I never went over my means and started doing dumb shit. So you didn't have the Ferrari that you left at the airport and forgot that the Ferrari was there? Yeah, I never did no shit like that. Hey, when niggas be telling no stories, I'm like, come on, bro, your flossin' is just too crazy, bro. But it's par for the court. If you really do this shit in your ledger, there are repossessions, there are foreclosures, water bills, water, all of that shit. Like, that's just what this is. And I tell people, you gotta really love this shit because the ups and downs that come with it, if it ain't love, if it ain't rooted in that, if it ain't rooted in that, I can't do nothing else. This should'll break you. You'll be doing something regular. Because this is not regular. This is not for the regular minded individual. You gotta be out of your fucking mind to do what we do. What do y'all sign? I always, this is a random thing that I think for myself, but now I get to ask y'all, when you have to sign occupation, does that ever fuck with you? When you sign and like, you know, just different shit. Your taxes different thing, they's like, what's your occupation? I never really know what the fuck to put. You don't pay an entertainer? But is that a job though? I'll be putting boxer. Anywhere I go, when people be like coming up to me and shit, do I know, are you? What do you do? I'm a boxer. Yeah, I'm right here with the hands. Don't even play with me, nigga. That moment always feels funny to me. That's a stare. I always feel like, what am I? It is a tricky question. It's like, we are completely in a relationship. We're in a very, very unique space because we are independent contractors and none of this is guaranteed. No. Right. And even with contracts. Delusionous fucks. Delusionous fucks. Even with contracts. I got my first apartment with my contract. But listen, even with contracts, you may get that front end. Oh, nigga, that's what. But the rest of that money in that contract, no matter who signed it. It's called a wish. It's not guaranteed to you. Where's the rest of my fucking money? We all signed this. The president signed it. Yeah. Well, you know, things aren't going to, that's not what the contract says. Wow. It says, I give you these songs and you give me my money. He's had this moment. He's reliving it. I'm losing my, losing my apartment through this. Hey, this shit, bro. Give me something. I'm, I'm the slept in my car. All that, bro. I'm the shower that Jim's. But there was nothing else I was designed or built to do. This was all or nothing. Fuck me up with the shower that Jim's part, bro. Nigga. I know that 24 hour fitness. I know that life. Yeah. You gotta keep it clean. You got to put that towel on the floor too. It gets tricky once you get out and it's kind of wet. And it's like, okay, now niggas be walking with their shoes on right here. So I got to put the towel on the floor in the shower. Nigga. Hey, bro, this life is now for the week. You got a knife for the week. Hey there. This is Josh from stuff you should know with a message that could change your life. The stuff you should know. Think spring podcast playlist is available now. Whether spring has sprung in your neck of the woods yet or not. The stuff you should know. Think spring playlist will make you want to get your overalls on, get outside and get your hands in the dirt. You can get the stuff you should know. Think spring playlist on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. Get me to free TC. Get me to that. Free TC was at 13 or 14. I think it was 13. I think you made it in 14. I think it came out in 15. Yeah. Yeah. Drop in 15. Damn. Well, shit. So Beach House one came out. I don't know if Beach House two came out before free. I think he did. I'm just pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing. And then finally it was that time. Why? Because I had songs that blew up. So, yeah, paranoid. I feel like was the first solo out of here. Ty Dolla's on record hit. Who are my bitches in this? Man. And they know about each other. And they know about each other. That is a cold. I'll say he did. Inspiration supper club. I know you haven't been there. Come on. Talk to talk. I had my 35th birthday there. Talk to talk, yo, man. With a Magnum bottle of boo. Come on, son. My brother got me. Yeah. It was this tall. Yeah. Yeah, nigga. Yeah, the bottle was this tall. Shit. He was cooking in there. I was really at supper club and really had two of my bitches in club. So the next day I went and I had this apartment right here in East Hollywood. Edgemont was the street. Nigga right next to the Kaiser on top of the hill overlooking the whole city. I thought I was on. But this is after. This is after having my little studio right here off of Cosmo. I don't know if y'all know Cosmo. That's like right by Vine in between Kuangas. The street right after Kuangas. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Where Atlantic used to be was on Kuangas. Before that, back in the day, my dad was signed to Solar, which was right there. Yeah. Come on, shout out to Dick Griffey. Yeah, the same exact spot. And then after that, Death Row was there. And my dad used to play on all of Death Row shit, so I was in the building there too. And after that was The Underdogs. Yeah, exactly. We were there before Atlantic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The history. Oh, and Babyface bought that motherfucking too. Babyface was on. Babyface bought that motherfucking there that time too. I remember LaFace was right there. Well, the next street was this street called Cosmo, and they had these little studios in there where you could get one for like 200 a month type shit. Two hundred a month. It's like one little small ass room, and everybody got small rooms, and then it's the shared bathroom in the hallway. You ever been in one of those type of spots? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Mothfuckers used to shower in there too. They used to take little hoe baths, nigga, with the little rag, with the sink, and you just get you some deodorant from the ride aid. Anyway, I was sleeping in that motherfucking. You feel me? Before I was able to stack up some bread and go half way park or the same, PZ, the same one that was in Utah. So is this after Tudor and Booty? This after Tudor and Booty, bro. Yeah, you like me. Yeah, I said like you get a little hit. You gonna blow it fast. You gonna blow it fast. Yeah, but like really like Tudor and Booty was my song, but I gave it to YG because Def Jam wanted to give him the deal. Right. So I wasn't really having like that. I just produced the song with the givers for that song for about $3,000. Got you. And then I split it with the homie. Yeah. Like, anyway, fucking I was able to get this apartment in East Hollywood and I had the little setup in the living room. A Paranoid was the third song I made on that beat from fucking with niggas like Mike Karen. He would have you make 17 songs to one beat. So I was like keeping that same energy. And the third song I made to this to that beat was Paranoid and shout out to Mustard man from there. I feel like we like changed the whole game and absolutely and he became the biggest producer in the world and our sound just took over. And after that, you know, I just kept on making songs. People want to features all this me and Wiz. We ended up teaming up. I signed a Taylor Taylor Gang management, Wiz and Will and they moved me around. You went on that tour. Yeah. I'm open and open enough for Wiz. You know, they're taking me everywhere. They really like open the touring game for me for sure. And fucking one night we go to record plant rest in peace, which was one of the best studios in LA. We said rest in peace. Because it's not there no more. Record plant is gone. Record plant is gone. Yeah, bro. Since when? Since it been gone. Yeah. Yeah. Record plant. Yeah. Super terrible. But you know the studio right on the left when you go in, you know, the first one on the left. We in there for a Wiz session and I'm in there with all the homies. We make a song called Or Nah. And this is for Wiz as shit. But since Paranoid blows up, Atlantic's like, yo, you need to drop like a little project. Let's do an EP. So I'm putting together the project and I'm like, yo, Wiz, let me just put this one on my shit. Bro, I put that shit on my shit and that was the next one to blow up now. I happen to announce it everywhere, but we just going to announce it right here on R&B Money. There's not a lot of niggas that could say they got one of these, but now I got one motherfuckers and that's called a Diamond Records. That's a diamond nigga. Shout out to Wiz, shout out to Mustard, shout out to the weekend. We did that. Niggas don't know what diamond means. That plaque's going to look crazy. Ten million. I can't wait to like it. Only nigga I knew growing up who had that obviously Michael Jackson had. I'm saying like a human, right? It was MC Hammer. MC Hammer, when you would walk in the Capitol building, they used to have Hammer's Diamond Plaques in there. Back in the day, like when he kept the lights on in that motherfucker. Diamond Plaque. He did Diamond twice. Wow. And it just, it looked unreal. Yeah. Well, this is my second one too. You got two now. Yeah, because me and Post Malone is diamond as well. Oh, of course I go. Of course you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, that happened. So shout out to Wiz, man. Like I always got to say Wiz, the goat of all goats. Just the coolest nigga. Super. That's what I want to say. The coolest nigga. I feel like a lot of people think you got to be this asshole to be an artist. And he is not. And he's not. And it doesn't matter if he's fucking number one in the world or whatever the fuck is going on at the time. He's the same guy, always nice to everyone. And he's going to try to give you what you can be like. Is it Bombay? Yeah. Yeah, nigga try to get, I was like, I'm not drinking that. I'm listening to the fucking stuff, man. They'll be glad you didn't, bro. No. I recently went to the doctor and they told me I had a fucking tumor on my liver, bro. What? What? Yeah. I went through a lot of Bombay bottles. Kids, fuck alcohol. I know I got my, my, my, my, uh, jet-way brand. Jet-way brand. Liban Arjan. If you're going to celebrate, celebrate with us. Let's edit that. Let's edit that. Fuck alcohol. Oh my God. Who edit that? We love alcohol, right? What is it called again? It's called Liban Arjan. Liban Arjan. It means good money. Yeah. Champagne is the best tasting champagne in the world. Make sure you celebrate with us at your next celebration. We also got the whiskey. Uh, Liban Arjan. And if you're in the whiskey or scotch, I'm going to go with it. Liban Arjan. And if you're in the whiskey or scotch, I'm sure you would love that. We're doing tastings all around the world. So, you know, make sure you pull up. But, uh, if you just want to pull up and you're one of those people that don't want to drink and your friends just drink, then you like me, nigga. Come on. So you don't drink no more? Very rare. Very rare. Celebrations. Celebration. Yeah. Yeah. But you know they always want to make a celebration for us. Celebration lunch. Celebration dinner. Celebration club. Celebration backstage. And the timing records of his life as a celebration, man. Every day. Every day. Take it easy, bro. That is amazing. You touched on something that, that I identified early, you know, you, you and Mustard. Mm-hmm. Very, very, very special connection. Yeah. I, I, to me, you guys don't miss together. Yeah. You don't miss. Was that when you, when you guys established that? How like, so the craziest, craziest, craziest thing about Mustard, right? Is when he came to the table, he was a dope ass DJ that just like the little, the little nigga that DJ is better than the grown man. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And that was him. He wasn't doing beats. He wasn't doing shit, bro. He was doing the other clown like, oh, nigga, look at your shirt. Are you fat ass nigga? Oh, you fucking old ass nigga. Him and YG were the first people that started that O-N conversation. Nigga, like way back in 2009, like call me, you old ass nigga. You washed, you this, you that, da, da, da. And it's like, we never used to do that to our big homies. It was like, we always used to listen to it. But then now it's even worse with the younger niggas, like two YG now. I'm gonna see. That's what I'm gonna tell you, nigga. You feel me? But fucking, I remember it was mustard and ream riches and they would just be talking shit every day. And then one day must it was like, yo, bro, because he would stay over time and just watch. And I'm like, damn, he's, I wasn't ever thinking he was going to say this. I was just thinking he was going to be like every other young nigga, just smoke weed and drink and fuck with the bitches. But you know, they, and then blame you, nigga, for, for not, you know what I mean? Putting them on, right? Yeah. Yeah. But instead he was like, let me get some sounds, bro. I'm like, for what? He was like, I'm gonna fuck with this program. This reason, right? I'm like, all right. So I gave him some sounds, all my drum sounds. Next thing you know, bro, he's starting to come back with beats and then she's just slapping like crazy shit. And fucking YG did a whole project with him. The shit was working. I did some shit with him and the shit was working and it's no better than that, bro. And everything was just organic. Organic, like, wow. Like, the DJs know. Yeah. They know. And he started, he just learned, bro. He was watching and he did his own team. He was, at first it was like just him making beats and he got with the guy Mike free at the time and whoever else. Like he just kept on putting together his different situations like a real producer and now he's mustered of today. Like one of the greatest to ever fucking do it. Like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,������� It's not just song, it's not just knowing how to manage songs. Now you're managing the creation of the thing that you're gonna plug into that matrix along with these other songs. Like, is the math scientist? He's a monster. And everything I hear you two do together, I'm like, yeah. Touchdown. I always remember this one moment where I was coming off a 21st Street, about to make that ride on LeBrayer to go towards Hollywood. This is like my grandmother's old neighborhood. And he was coming in. Like, he was coming from South LeBrayer going north to turn right on 21st to go to my grandmother's house because T.C. and M. Everybody was over there. We had the studio. And he was like, hey, bro, I'm finna pass you up on these beats. I'm like, what you mean, nigga? He was like, watch, nigga, watch. Cause I was always making the beats and he said this shit to me. And then the next week, nigga, Rack City dropped with him. Oh my God. Oh my God. And from there, nigga, it was over. Rack City. You ain't wanna wait, you ain't gonna give a nigga a week. And from there, nigga, not like us, nigga. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Like, so. Now y'all crew all together, man, and everybody that's come up out of it has just been really successful. And it's dope to see, you know, and everybody have, you know, they have their moments where people go different ways. But the fact that y'all, you know, have maintained that connection with each other. It's dope to see. It's really, really dope to see. A lot of people when got successful in their own ways, but like, I just gotta always like point out YG musty, but especially musty, cause it's like, like I said, they gave YG the first deal out all of us. And there was a lot of us that quit. There was a lot of us that fell off, but there's some of us that figured out how to, you know, get in where you fit in, you know, and mustered, push a rod. There's a couple of us that figured it out, you know? And you just gotta shout out to people like that cause they don't make people like that every day, you know? They make a lot of people with excuses and a lot of people that point fingers and shit, but niggas that just like find a space and go all the way. It's like, that don't happen every day. Yeah. You called, first of all LA, we talked about LA. LA is incredible. Thank you, bro. That's an incredible record. I appreciate that, man. I love that record, like wholeheartedly. Shout out to D&D, they started that one. You called Babyface for solid. Ha ha, yeah, yeah, yeah. They told me when I come in here to this podcast that probably one of the things that you would ask me is like top five favorite R&B, right? And I couldn't like name like my favorite five songs, but or the senior, I'll probably just go to the producers of the times like how you name fucking Devante or Teddy or Babyface. Like I went to the other day, shout out to Charlie Wilson, one of my favorites ever. Invited me to his show at the Hollywood Bowl with him and Babyface. Babyface got on. It just takes you through all of the journey. Babyface. It's crazy. Journey. It's crazy. You called Babyface. I called Babyface. I had to. I called all my favorite niggas that I ever wanted to work with that I met from, like I said, the year 2000 when I first started working with Kamaira all the way until it was time for Free TC. And Babyface, one of them, man. Jagged Edge was on my shit. All the niggas, man. R. Kelly was on my shit, nigga. Yeah, I said another one of my favorites. Mine too, nigga. Horse in the stable. Tish Hyman, bro. Yeah, horse in the stable. Shout out to Tish Hyman. That's real player shit, man. Hey, man, that's real player shit, man. Yeah. Tish Hyman, bro. You nice with it, bro. You know, I almost got fucking canceled before canceled was a thing because of that song. Because horse in the stable? Horse is in the stable. Because all this guy is fucking referring to women as horses, dah, dah, dah, this and that. And it wasn't even like that, Mori. It was more of a poetic thing if you really like the attention. And fucking Tish wrote that song. Oh, fucking woman. So suck my dick. Yep. Starts there. It's there. It starts there. Shout out to Tish, man. One of the greatest. What made you go on the feature and collab run? Was that ever an intention? Was that intentional for you, especially coming from Cali and obviously Nate Dogg and the run he had and what he's meant to the culture? Like, was that intentional for you or no? That wasn't intentional on some Nate Dogg shit. But when it started to happen, I started to feel like Lil Wayne. Because Lil Wayne is who I saw do that. Like, just be the greatest and then just bless other people's songs and sauce them up and bring them to the next level. And then sign the biggest artist and then Leon Drake. Same shit. I feel like Lil Wayne right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get to Leigh-Eye. We're going to get there. Oh, we're going to get there. Yeah. Don't speak. Don't speak. We're going to get to Leigh-Eye because Leigh-Eye is our favorite. Yeah. And he knows it and we tell him. Yeah. You literally did a project called Featuring. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you really lean into it. That was a troll race. It was like everybody. No, I got the truth. It was a troll. Everybody was like, oh, he's the feature guy. He's the hook guy. He's the this guy. But like, Tink pointed out, we all know what I do if you really pay attention. But the narratives and, you know, whatever. I mean, listen, in this game too, though, the intention is to be a guy. Yeah. So whatever the fuck they want to say. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? They niggas be, all the shit we've done in music, niggas be run up to me like, you're the podcast nigga. I am. Yeah. I am. I actually like, we've done some cool shit. I'll take that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I always look at those type of things as that's just, sometimes it can be a backhanded compliment in some form or fashion. But for me, it's just like, no, it's still recognition for, you know, good work. Because the only way it even becomes a name is if it's successful. If it's successful. Right. The only way they even can and and trying to trying to diminish it, it never works. But it never works. It's a huge, especially when you got the type of gift that you got. Oh, 100%. You know what I mean? 100%. You just continued. The success is just, it hasn't stopped for you. No, no, no. You're cooking. You know, like you said, bringing up a Leon, like now you're a successful label head, bro. Yeah. That does not happen. I know, bro. And just like with the music or, you know, the artistry part, how it started this way. And then I thought it was about the boom and it was like back to square one. And then again, you thought it was about the boom. You were with even a bigger situation than back to square one. And then that little situation where you never even think, you know, is the one that ends up going and same shit, bro. I didn't started many record companies along the way and signed many artists, but it was with this one, like during the pandemic, when you don't even know what the fuck is going to happen. And my keyboard player Ali is like, yo, you should check out this shit, man. I got this artist you might want to hear. I know you're going to love this shit. I'm telling you, this is that shit. And he plays me a song called California Cation, which we ended up changing the name to Love Jones, which I ended up doing the feature for the kid and it was going to go on my album. And then it didn't go on my album because I didn't end up dropping and we ended up signing them because the shit was just so good. And the same guy that signed me to Atlantic, we ended up making a label together. Sean Baird. Sean Baird is my guy. Fucking Leon came across, you know, the table and fucking that was my favorite shit I had ever heard at the time and it still is to this day. And I believed in it. It fucking had some type of success in the beginning, but the type of success that had the higher ups at the label like, yo, maybe you want to give him one of them club joints and maybe you want to put him with this guy or put him with that guy and I actually called him and told him this information. And then I called him back like minutes later, like I feel like a fucking dickhead. I feel like one of those record company guys don't ever let me do that to you or nobody do that to you. I love this shit. And there was a you love it and there's going to be other people that love it. And then this second album, he came back with mutt, which he stuck to his shit and didn't do no sequence and didn't do don't fucking 808s. Didn't do the shit that everybody else is doing, but stuck to his shit and it fucking worked and it's the best shit. So that's all I would like to say to a new artist out there. If y'all ask me, like, nigga, do you bro and believe in it? Because if someone likes it, there's going to be other people that like it. If you like it, there's going to be other people that like it. And I got to tell everybody outside of music world that it is something to be a successful artist. Yeah. It is something to that. There's no joy, no other feeling in the world. You're going to do well. You're going to make great money. You're going to do tour, all these cool things, but it get different when you break an artist on your label. Yeah. Shit gets different. Because we as owners for a very long time understand being in the black when the back end checks start coming in on the other side of success. I can only imagine what's getting ready to come through the pipeline. Yeah. And you become a destination. 100%. Right? Like now because it's something that someone said to me some years ago about if you can figure out a way to make a living and be philanthropic. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. Because ultimately like the love and the things that we put into it is to ultimately help someone else. Right? Especially when you sign an artist or you sign a writer or you get a writer who cracks off or a producer or now an artist. Like that's giving back. Because not only have you helped that artist, you've helped everyone connected to that artist. Their family members, the women and whatever their lives and you know what I mean? And you brought someone else up. So now you become that destination where people are like, yeah man, I'm a singer. Who could I? Man, I could go to Easy Money. Yeah. I could go to R&B Money. I could go to, you know what I'm saying? Like you become that for the next generations that's coming up. Right? Because I guarantee you if anybody thinks they have anything close to what Leon is, they're going to be like, I got to get the Tidalis on. Yep. I got to talk to Sean Barron. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember when y'all did that deal with Ethiopia. I remember. And she was like, yo, Sean, he partner, you know what I mean? He's partner with Ty. You know what I'm saying? I remember Matt who works with Dreamville now. He used to work with that. That's our guy, Matt McNeil. Yeah. With Hit Boy. He used to be with them. Hit Boy and Chase. So I think Matt brought me to Ethiopia a long time ago to try to get my first publishing deal in the show. Oh, Universal. And she turned me down, bruh. Wow. It was hurt because all the homies was with Ethiopia. Yeah. I just thought that was going to be my next thing. She believed in Leon, bro. And I just want to like big Ethiopia for just being such a fucking boss, bruh. Like, yeah. Yeah. You know? Shout out to her. Absolutely. Don't kill the party? The bop on that? Man, like I just realized how that song went again yesterday because I was just going through my phone and going through all my old files. I had started that song for a project I was working on called Sign Language 2 because I already put out the Sign Language a long time ago. I was making two. And two was with me and Juicy J producing the whole project and shit. And I did that song, Don't Kill the Party with Baby Koby and Juicy J hopped on it. And this is for that. But then fast forward, 2023 is when I linked with Yay up in Japan. And we were just going to, we were going to do another project and I was going to have him executive produce my solo album. But then we started making songs and then we ended up coming up with the whole Vultures I did and did that. And then with that, it's like going through my hard drive, picking all my best shit, going through his hard drive, picking all his best shit to just speed up the process type shit, right? And then we get on each other's songs. And a lot of people first heard Don't Kill the Party as a potential song for Vultures 3. But I ended up being able to use it for Tycoon. So she's just crazy also to see how songs, you know, you could, like for instance, Grammy nominations just popped out and I got nominated for a Grammy alongside my brother, Jid. And black. Thank you guys, man. That song with Jid, nigga, this is before the pandemic. He came to my crib and we did that song. I was produced on it and sung and he did his part. I'm talking about nigga. This is before 2020. But now it just happened right now. Mut was done in 2022 or 2023. So it's just crazy. I'm a skier. What's your favorite, I'm going to tell you with mine after you, if you have one. What's your favorite feature you've had? That's a very hard one because I'm going to just say Psycho though. It's Diamond. You know what I'm saying? It was very successful. It's the way that should happen. Post told me to come to the studio over here. That was the first day I met the nigga, M.L. Lee Chopper. Like way back. I don't remember what year that was, but yeah, that's my favorite. My favorite feature from you is Backseat. But Roddy Rich, man. That's my favorite feature. And the end line. I'm a fucking sex symbol. I said, oh, this nigga's crazy. Because that don't have nothing to do with nothing that's going on. That nigga finish this shit. I'm a fucking sex symbol. That's me and Mustard going back and forth on Instagram, just talking shit to each other. Same way we met. We still on the same path. We were just going back and forth and I ended up putting it in the song. Mine. What's the idiom song you got? I got a gang of idiom songs. It's recent though. Is it like some Brazilian Afro beat type shit or is it like Strelix? What's the one? What is it? Give me. Hold on. I can't do this. I can't. But first of all, I'm going to go back and type it real quick and then I'm going to look up my favorite song. All right. What I want, like I said, you and Mustard don't miss. Man, what I want, that was supposed to be on me and Mustard's collab album. So yeah, because you never done a collab album together. You and Mustard. We did one, did you? Right before Vultures. And the label at the time was like, let's let, you know, the Mustard shit hasn't been hot lately. I'm going to get back hot and I'm like, what the fuck nigga? Like we got nothing but smashes on this shit. And it was just like my team at the time, everything just didn't happen, bro. And it's all good. Like I was able to put that song on this album. One of the other songs we were working on, do a stay wet, you know what I'm saying? With me and Nipsey. And it was me and Nipsey and Cardi B at the time. Then it ended up being me and yay. And Nipsey on Vultures. So, you know. How many records you think you've written? In life? If you just think, if you just think, what you think? Over a hundred thousand. God damn. You think you've written a hundred thousand records? Yeah, like I try to like do at least three songs a day, bro. You still on that type of time? Still on that type of time. Even when the album is dropped that day, I'm still in the studio like making more songs. So. Do you still go in every day? Yes. To fast forward, Kowenga, that building right there that we talked about. Naked, I done bought a building on Kowenga right down the street, Naked. Ha ha ha. Right down the street. I can remodel the whole shit. Fucking. So you got your studios, you got your label, you got everything. Yeah, the whole thing. So we good. So for you guys label, are you guys fully staffed out? Or is it still you guys running like a small boutique? It's a small boutique. It's a small boutique, but I'm hiring all the people. We got everybody. We got publicists. We got, you know, accounting. We got attorneys. We got every N.R.s. Yeah, yeah. Full shit. So. That's hard, bro. Yeah. That's hard. And it's just to see that happen for an artist because it just doesn't happen that way. Right. Like you just don't, especially as an active artist, you know, you'll see people that have, they'll step to the side. They start focusing on other things, but for you to have it as you're still climbing, it's amazing to watch, bro, especially in R&B because we don't, we don't have a lot of reach back in R&B. Yeah. Unfortunately. You know what I mean? That's true. I feel like it's going to come back though. I feel like it's turning around. No, absolutely. It's like, as we saw what happened with rap on the top 40 this last week, but then we see that best R&B category, which Leon is, is crazy. It's like it was major hits. Yes, it is. So I'm happy about that. Have you been nominated for R&B awards? Maybe. Or do you get most of your stuff in hip hop? I get most of my stuff in hip hop for sure. And I'll still be mad that like, for instance, they put Ty Koon in the hip hop category because I don't feel like it's a hip hop album. It's crazy. But that's why I asked you that. Yeah, I hate that shit. I'm not a rapper. Like I said, I ain't never rap. If you put my records against Jay-Z, like it's never, it's not even the same type of fucking music, bro. My shit is like it more adds up with a Chris Brown or adds up with it, you know? But that's where they have to do more. They have to have more consideration in the thought process of just music period when they're creating these categories and things like that. And since these things have evolved, you can't just throw them somewhere. Like this is something completely different. And like you said, you haven't rapped one, how did you get that? How did you just throw me over there? Right. You didn't even ask me. Let's talk about it. They didn't fucking, they didn't nominate Playboy Cardi this year, which is like how the fuck you didn't nominate Playboy Cardi? That makes no sense. Fucking I Am Music was one of the biggest fucking albums this whole year. And then you wonder why the youth don't support it. Don't support it. Because I guarantee you if they would have nominated him, my son would have been like that. That was the best shit in hip hop. But it's like, it's almost like. Is it not hip hop? Like, I don't know. Sometimes it just feels like it's anti-impact. And I'm like, how do you do that? And I'm talking to the voters. How do you fight against impact? Right. Like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you shouldn't want to, even if you don't understand it. Right. That should lead you to go get into it and trying to figure it out. Like, there's no reason. This is the lesson of my whole career, bro. Because it's like, like if you fast, if you rewind back to oh, now when I said the My Space shit was popping, the jerk music shit was popping, I came from what I came from. And then they tried to throw me in this world, which I fucking hated that jerk shit. Just to be honest, right? Because it just felt like lazy. It felt like no talent. It felt like, like y'all use five sounds and y'all got a song that's going it. So how can I hate that the song's going? And that's when I had to learn to never call anything wack again anymore. You know what I'm saying? Like, to open my fucking ear up. And to add your sauce to it. Yeah, because this is what changed my shit, right? So I think with the Grammys, it's like evolution, right? What used to be cool, sometimes it's not cool no more. And there's certain new shit, right? And I just think they need to be more ahead for what's coming because shit be changing. Like every so many years. And when it comes to Cardi, I feel like his shit is a new thing. And then it's not only him. You got like fucking 15 other artists that tried to sound exactly like that. You know what I mean? That has to happen though. From here's what doesn't happen. Yeah. A guy like Playboy Cardi. Sometimes there's a thing that we call campaign. Campanning. Yeah. Hey listen, because Easy Money is on the campaign. Listen. Hey, Leon right now. You know, he campaigned like a motherfucker. It's campaign. Yeah. And Grammy is one of those things where. No, it's running for something. There's a lot of older voters. There's a lot of older systems in place. But that campaigning and you up or Playboy Cardi having that Grammy conversation with your fans or with the people who are helping you produce and write these albums, that makes the conversation different. Yeah. For sure. But if you never interject yourself into that conversation because what's missing is the youth in this place. Right. We need young voters. Right. That's what we need to understand all of this new landscape and all of these new art. I remember when Uzi Vert was killing, I was like, Uzi Vert ain't got nothing. And we need team submitting. Right. And you need team submitting. Yeah. Right. And I, it's a couple of things that didn't happen for some people that I had the conversation with them. I'm like, listen, you got to cut some motherfuckers out because you got nominated for this, that but you should have been nominated also. Exactly. For this, that and the other. Exactly. You know what I mean? So, you know, it's and it's also a learning process for us because it hasn't always been inclusive. Yep. But it's becoming more inclusive. Right. I'm a voter. I've been a voter for years now and I'm promoting it to other people in the music business that don't even know that they could be voters. Yep. And I'm nominating them to be voters. I'm a voter as well, but it just be like, who are we voting on? You know what I mean? Like they don't, sometimes they don't have the right category. No, no, listen, there's definitely flaws. Yeah. Absolutely. When you speak about Leon, it's like he's making a classic sound that's already been, you know, at the Grammys before and different kinds of ways. You know what I mean? But when it comes to Cardi's music, I feel like it's a newer type of music. It still reminds you of like a black rock or a black heavy metal like da-da-da-da. And it's been done before too. If we, uh... But where, but it'll begin, we have to figure out what do we call it and where do we put it? Because Playboy Cardi can't be in the same category as Chris Brown, but Playboy Cardi shouldn't be in the same category as Nicki Minaj. So what is it? I'm just thinking out loud. You're right, you're right, you're right. Like what do... Like the... No, I mean they figured it out, but they figured it out with the country. Grammy now because... They don't figure it out with the country. They're doing progressive and then they're doing... They don't figure it out for them. That's what I'm saying. But, but also it's also somebody speaking up. Right? All of them. Because best believe, and listen, I'll say this right here, right now, when we sat in there before we walked out, I said, hey, uh, board, nice to meet you guys. Uh, why don't you have a podcast, Grammy? Hmm. I would like to know that. Because there are a lot of music... Yeah, that's the evolve. Like we're a part of it. Obviously we do music too, but we're a part of music from a podcast standpoint. Yeah. And there are multiple podcasts that are music based podcasts. That's influencing. Sometimes it just happens a year late because it's like when you go back to the Macklemore Kendrick year, you know what I mean? Like... It's tricky. How did that happen? Yeah, it's tricky. And then you guys said podcasts, which I feel like podcasts should have been in last year and now you should have had the streamer one at the Grammy. You know what I mean? Yeah. So next time I go up there, I'm gonna be like, so Ty said we also need a streamer. No, for real because... Yes, sir. Because it's all these little things that just pop off. If we don't really speak on it and we don't speak to the right people, right? It's one thing to yell from outside and it's another thing to be in the club and be like, hey, hey, let me tie you on the shoulder. What about? Yeah. It just sucks though because it's like, damn, this is the I Am Music year. So that should be happening this year. No, no, no. I agree with you. Not Johnnie could figure that shit out next year. Okay, now we have a fucking rage hip hop fucking category. You know? Listen, I feel like as music evolves so quickly that these institutions, they have to be able to pivot as well. I mean, it's buildings of people or smart people who should be able to say, hey, this is happening now and we need to get in front of it in some way, shape or form. Even if it's just acknowledging it, we need to be in the game. We can't be behind the game because for a lot of us, that platform is just so important and they should be leading us as opposed to being playing catch up. We the voice is now though. Yeah. You know what I mean? Your voice is strong, brother. Absolutely. You know what I mean? They got to know how you feel and they want to meet with you. They would love to take a tie dollar sign meeting. Absolutely. And they'll all show up. So go tell them how you feel. Yeah. Midnight Hour. Midnight Hour. Midnight Hour. That was the song. Nick. We got nominated for a Grammy for that joint. Midnight Hour is special to me. I appreciate you, man. I always say Skrillex to me was like the Dr. Dre of dance music. He's like the greatest. Why? It's actually him. I think his hands on on the laptop, mixing the shit, like producing the shit, doing everything like he's him for real. And any genre you want to go, he can go R&B, he could go rock, he could go hip hop, he could go whatever. He's just like one of us. So shout out to Skrillex. Hipmaker was also involved on that record and he got the chords played on that. You know we love that nigga, man. You know we love that nigga, man. That is our dog. Them chords. Shout out to Hipmaker, man. You still got it nigga. He liked that too. He liked that. He's still hot nigga. I was in the mall. I cannot remember what store I was in. And music freezes me. You know what I mean? It's been like that since the Charlie Brown Christmas. It'll freeze me. And I can't remember what store I was in. And I heard that shit. I was like. That's crazy. And what started, it was muffled. Babe. Babe, let's go. Let's go. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought you were about to start singing a song. That's the funniest thing. I knew where you were going, nigga. It was that. I was stuck. I was like. I said, nigga, that's Tidalis. I said, nigga. That's crazy. So where the fuck is this? Bro. Incredible. That's my world anyway. That's secretly my world. I remember making a jig on it. Go to house clubs and EDM clubs. We was in there one January first. And I was like this. And it's nigga sitting like this. Fuck this nigga. I was feeling it. He was feeling it. I'm over in the pizza with MK and Calvin Harris getting it. And it was like, sir, put your shirt back on. I will not. Sir, put your shirt back on. It's crazy. Here's the crazy thing. I'm in VIP. And they're like, sir, put your shirt on. I was like, what you mean? I'm in VIP. That is why you must put your shirt on. Now, if you want to have your shirt off, you have to go with the regular people. I said, that's wild. But he was a built dude too. I understand because I want to show myself too. But you can't in VIP. I was like, all right, I respect it. You fell above, man. I put my shirt back on. It's bullshit, bro. It's bullshit. Are we getting a tour? Like, what are we getting? We're putting the tour together right now. And it's been getting the team all the way right, bro. But you have a lot happening too right now. And it's all good. It's been a lot of moving parts going on to get to this next level that we're going to. But the next level is happening. What is the next level for you? What is that? The next level is just up. Everything up, bro. That's the motto. Everything up, bro. Everything next level. You know what I'm saying? Everything level up. And there's still shit I haven't done. I haven't performed at the Super Bowl. I'm so glad to see my little bro, Mustard, and Kendrick up there. Kendrick was on LA. Mustard's been on all my shit. I'm always happy for my brothers. To get to that level, there's still the World Cup. One thing people don't do that I noticed that I had to call my brother and really give him his full flowers on, is speak on when they talk about the West Coast. They don't bring up my nigga Will I Am enough. I feel like when we really want to talk about the king of kings of LA, who else did the fucking Super Bowl three times, nigga? Or it might be four. And who else did the World Cup? And these are things that are LA. The nigga black, the nigga with the Mexican. Exactly. Everything LA. You feel me? It don't get more LA than what I am. I'm just trying to do the things that Will did and go past that. Shit. You know what I'm saying? That's my mother fucking. Have you guys done music together? Like I said, bro, 2000, whatever that year is right before the YG shit is me, Venus Brown, Corey, Justin Timberlake and Will I Am. Right. And still to this day, Will I Am pulls up. He did a whole version of the Vultures album that didn't come out. And Will's always with me, bro. So shout out to Will. We were just talking about Will earlier. The Goat. With Beats by Dre. He came to my play in Broadway. Will pulled up? Will pulled up. And I was like, Will? Man, I ain't a song. That's the first thing that came to your mind. That's the first thing that came to your mind. That's all I heard. I didn't know you. I said, hey man, I need a rocket. I said I need a smash. She said, hmm, what kind of smash? I said, like, take me somewhere. I've never been. He said, like a rocket ship. I said, yes. He said, hmm. Okay. Come out of the studio. I said, okay. I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. I don't got his number. But Ty is here now. I'm gonna find him. He right down the street. Yes? Yeah. Will's one of those type of people too. Like you said that, you know, he's just over. He's right around the corner. No, he's always, always solid. Always. Every time I see him. I'm still waiting to buy one of these cars he didn't make. I'm gonna wait to buy a car too. They make the music and shit. They wait in the car. He was the first rapper I knew that was like making his own cars. He's a dog. And having like studio buildings with fucking fingerprint to get to the next door. Well, I am. You know, big inspiration in my life. We were having like one of those conversations one night at the studio. And I said, I said, if you weren't doing music, what would you be doing? And he said, I won't say the computer company. He said, he said, I'd be working there. So what? And then he started telling me all the think tank things that he does with the computer companies. Yeah. Where they're literally picking his brain and he's evaluating things and telling them he's like, he different. Yeah. He different. And like you said, he came from East LA and he's in the apartments. Well, she got the song right now too. He got the sample, the Maria Maria. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, he sampled that. And that's how emotion and emotion on the charts. Yeah. I didn't know that. Fall in love with East LA. I did some design the other day. We were riding a car. Daddy, turn that up. That's all. I did not know that was Will Am. I was like, I'm not gonna die. Tell them the kids still love him. Will, the kids still love Will. The other day, the reason why I called him to give him that love is I was in London and like it was this group that pulled up on me like four white girls, like young, they had to be like 20 something and they were screaming to the top of their lungs. Where's the love? And this is 2025, like two months ago. And that song came out whenever the fuck it came out. And I'm just like, Will, nigga, this is crazy. You really like him, bro. I don't know when's the last time you heard that, but just in case. I don't know what kind of day you having because you know how it be like, nigga, you just got to know, bro. Just keep going. If you still care about this shit, if you still love it. I'm gonna tell him where he at right now. Brother, brother, dollar sign. One of those special moments. Come on. You start to talk about music. Music that is made of a lot of money. I want to get into the mind of the dollar sign and understand the music that has been so inclined to inspire your journey as we sit here at this time. People ought to know. Mr. Tide dollar signs. You're top five. Top five. You're top five. I would be singers. What a top five. We've got to know before you go. Here on the show. Let's go. We've got the top five. Yes. The top five. The top five. The top five. The singers. Come on now. This is Tank, ladies and gentlemen. One of the greatest ever. So how we doing? We doing top five female singers, top five male singers. Are we doing top five R&B producers? Top 20. You're top 85. Women or men? Just five. No order. So we want the best singers. The top five. Top five. Top five. Stevie Wonder. Anybody who's doing runs of today. Stevie Wonder. Kim Burrell. That's female ever to me. God damn. She sang at Tank's wedding. That's like, you deserve that though. Because you definitely one of those. Stevie Wonder, Tank, Brian McKnight. I love that nigga Mario. I love that nigga Avery Wilson. I love Leon. I know I just went over this guy. 9.85. Ties 12. But you know what, did you say that? I don't think people are really listening to Leon. Man. What on the runs? What? That shit's so crispy. That shit's so crispy. I don't think people are listening and understanding what he's doing vocally. Because he slips it in so quick. It's in pocket. So quick you can miss it. You think it's normal. No, it's definitely not normal. But he just didn't that small space is not normal. And then when it even gets more tricky is when you go to the show and you see it live and it's fucking signing damn they're better than the fucking record. Because a lot of people have trouble sounding like the record for history. It's like clean clean and I even got on his head the other day like, who you got mixing your shit, bro? He's like, I got the older homie who just damn they're beat cancer nigga and he's up here with his cane and he's fucking killing shit. I'm like, bro, shout out to your whole squad. Y'all killing it. Can't wait to go to that tour too. That's out right now. Kimberrill fucking Brandy nigga Beyonce mm-hmm say Beyonce again Beyonce nigga Clark sisters I think that was five in the females Okay, there's so many more Fucking I love Jasmine Sullivan My favorite Start getting into the young shit. There's a lot of young shit. It's a lot of let's move on cuz I know you got them for days Yeah, top five R&B songs Damn Come on, brother. Oh, I can't even do that, bro You can't just start naming just start naming just start naming right now. You're just jams go down your playlist Man, I Can't do it like that, bro. Like I said, I could just name people that just brand periods of R&B like Teddy Riley like baby face like motherfucking tank nigga like R. Kelly like yeah, who am I missing bro? Stevie nigga smokey Robinson Smokey You just pick a song from each of those artists I can't pick the song because it's just so many I can't do that cuz I'm gonna blame it on the weed I'll be smoking too much to just go to a song in my head right now You would be the first one to not I don't know if you won't be the first Well, did they pick all those producers did these niggas even know the information about the song Come on He gave us another category to She was that be saying shit, yeah, I like that category shit Niggas who ran this shit? Yeah, niggas who ran this shit repairs at a time. I like it Jammin Lewis Jammin Lewis nigga the underdogs right I need jerking Jerkins bro, how could you leave our writing jerking? Tim and Bob Dallas Austin Brian Michael Cox Drahan Vidal Can you even think of them right now? Yeah, but you can't do that Let's just hear it What you're doing is you're stalling you're not stalling. I'm trying to see if you could pick five songs. I don't even be like Pick five song right now right now five so I couldn't they wouldn't necessarily be My top is a tier Leon has to Ever or you say right now. No, you say you think right now am I right now? I got two of my right now right now. Yes, it is Yes, it is but then I go Kailani folded Kailani for hard Kailani folk. Okay, no Chris Brown then This one I'm gonna take residuals. I'm gonna take residuals. I like residuals to I'm going residuals I'm going Still going her damage her damage is crazy crazy. That's going nowhere. She's one of the best singers to co Yeah, I was an ours is in there for like the last couple years hours and hours I'm going I'm going I'm going Brandi when you touch me Yeah, I'm going I'm going Joe to see my heart belongs to you are you mixing it up? Yeah, you mixing it up I'm just you know, I'm I go places man. This is these are all top tier. They all live. Oh, yeah They all live on that top level and I'm going Marvin Gaye distant lover live. Yeah, you gotta I'm just you gotta have that I'm everywhere Yeah, Marvin Gaye was going on for me. Okay, they're going there. Go one. Yeah, okay Only was he singing his ass off in the backgrounds with the message. Yeah Anything Bob Marley, bro, if you want to consider that R.B. singing absolutely There's so many Stevie songs. I can't even name one. I'm like fuck But I don't want to paint the wrong one because I want to pick one with all the Who was favorite that Whole TP to R. Kelly albums like That whole voodoo D'Angelo albums what made me the whole Lauren Hill fucking her album because what made me? Yeah, I Could go two albums on Brandy two or three you absolutely could you could because that's like what made my backgrounds Who else man and then Like I said Kim I'm trying to pick which was song that was but it was like the that black and white cover From Kim Burrell I Don't know man. I don't know the names of the song. Sorry guys. All right guys. Okay. Okay You did good. I like I like what you did there. Let's move on. Let's make your super R&B artists Like this artist is is everything you would want in an artist, right? So we're gonna pick it in pieces Yeah, we're gonna pick whose Vocal you're gonna use for that artist the performance style the styling of the artist the passion of that artist And who's gonna produce for that artist? Let's start here. What one vocal are you getting to make your super R&B artist one vocal? Ah Super R&B artist vocal I'm gonna go with Todd dollars on Everything up. I'm hitting any run. They throw at me. Whatever you better believe it. You better. I heard you do it performance style Performance style Chris Brown hmm. Yes, sir. Hmm. We flying around the whole stadium. Yeah at 30 miles per hour Come on. Yeah, nigga tripping the styling of the artist They look like on stage to drip of the artist to drip in 2026 Shit, yeah, man. We talked about you know me the diggers. You mean that the Prince niggas back in the day She'll be lessen That's how you want I think my drip is like I think I'm not scared if you go there. I'm a fuck with my We don't talk about that enough, but I've been doing it. I was hoping I was hoping you were gonna say that Appreciate it. I'm mad at you the passion of the artist the heart of your heart. Who mean it? Yeah, the passion in heart. I got a crazy passion. I'm still here. I'll take you know I'll take fail. I'll take win and I'll never stop and I'm and I'm still here. You know I'm saying Why not with the same energy? Why not? Telling me is you you with Chris Brown moves That's the one thing I didn't fucking that much time on what I wish I would have done And who's producing for this artist who's producing for that particular artist Shit, can I get a combo? Can I get mustard and camper? Mustard and campers Understands the people the vibe and camper got them chords man. He's gonna give us mustard and camper is crazy Yeah, those two together would be like oh my god Yeah Mustard and camper Who's writing for this artist? shit me James Fonda Roy and Christiana Hitmaker And Let me just throw some female perspective in there I never worked with her, but I love her words and like everything she's been doing is this chick named Amy Allen Hmm Amy Allen. Yeah, you ever heard of her. No, you ever heard of Sabrina Carpenter? Yes, like she's right now. She's right now. I don't want to take anything for Sabrina because I wasn't in the room But from when I read the credits I see Amy's name on all the shit So yeah, I'm thinking like she might be the inspiration Mm-hmm, and then I heard Amy solo records and I like her a lot. Okay Amy Allen Amy Allen. You taking all this a whole other place, bro Yeah, yeah, you came and did dollar sign. It's not like the classic R&B Shit, but it's like her words. It's just music. Yeah Yeah, man, you know what I want to before you before you go into that and tish. I'm gonna bring tish to the table Hmm. Yeah before you before you before we get to this last segment. I Want to tell you bro? Thank you for something And I'm saying this from the other side of the business so I Have these bright ideas all the time, right? And sometimes people like J you crazy and this is I think I'm rolling. Mm-hmm. So I had this bright idea I'm like tank. You know what? I'm gonna direct your next video for the win we remix Yeah, right. I was like I'm a car Ben mark. I got that I got that I got the whole concept in my head I'm right this shit out. I've never done it before but I was like I got something and I'm saying thank you from the other side of that from just being a gracious artist you Trey songs obviously my brother tank. Yeah, but it's my first time directing a video That's good. You probably had no idea. You just like Alright, alright, Jay. What's the next thing you know I'm saying but I wanted to personally say thank you You know what I mean because that came in and understanding that from their side the directors who do that every day That shit can be taxing Especially when you dealing with artists who ain't cool. Yeah, you know I'm saying so I just want to say I appreciate it that bro I appreciate y'all. Thank you for having me on there. Come on Needed needed your verse is crazy on you. Have you seen the choreography online to your verse? All the girls that do the core Thank you, brother, I can I can piggyback on that. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Let's do another one. Yeah, well those case with Hey, yeah, right. That's hard. I ain't seen those in a while What did I just say? Literally, yeah, I said nigga you gonna make me go five pair case with that's fire Yeah I said no nick hey, I said no names I said no names I said no names we were We went what you did don't say she I said Hey We had a very very important part of the show Yeah, will you tell us a story funny or fucked up or funny and fucked up Which I know you probably got some of both The only rule to this game is you can't say no names. Okay Funny and fucked up Or funny or just fucked up Funny and fucked up funny and fucked up funny and fucked up Oh Right before cancel We got good editing too, so whatever right funny and fucked up damn I'm just trying to think what time period I should go what time period help me what time period should I go go go Tudor and booty time period Funny and fucked up to the booted time period Oh shit, nigga when we uh Just that whole time man like All right, cool. I do the song get YG on it. No names. Oh, sorry. No names the record companies call They want to sign bro. They don't want to sign me or TC Uh next thing you know, it's time to put the record out The record comes out. We got to tell TC. They don't even want him on the record. Oh, sorry. I said another name. So Uh, that comes out Shit, I'm trying to think how is this funny? That's not that funny Yeah, it don't gotta be both. I mean the video shoot I just had my homeboy do the video and we went to dock wilder beach and Like I said push Inc was a whole bunch of us from all over the city different hoods and We get to the beach Nigga guns are drawn. Nigga is a big standoff on the The the parking lot and you know I'm saying of niggas that supposed to be there together Yeah, but it's like different hoods. Like I said, we all come all over. So it's all different hoods. You got crips You got blood you got parrots. You got grapes. You got yeah everything and Ended end up getting you know being a successful video. Nobody got shot and We got a million views in one week and end up getting a record deal and we're here today It's not that funny though. No, that's no, that's a good one Standoff at the video shoot standoff at the video shoot, bro. I'm trying to think what else is like funny funny, though I want to have the funniest one on this show ever I Can't think bro. I should have came on prepared. You're good. I'll call it in on the next Brother tie dollar sign. Um, we are extremely grateful Extremely grateful for your time man. Grateful for y'all. Thank you for having me on this show I'm actually a fan of the show. I've caught a couple of them and uh, you know, it's just I honored to be in the room, you know alongside some legends that I respect in the game Keep expanding man. Keep making room now. We were oh funny funny funny funny. Oh, he got a funny one. Okay. Okay, so This building right down the street. It's across the street right down the street Right now it's called keys I'm in the back of the day coming to some show at that mother fucking it was called billboard live and I see yo Asin there nigga going crazy on the mic. I don't know if it was one of them r&b Wednesdays or Sundays or one of them shits, but I remember you killed that shit And I'm like, I just can't wait to be at this motherfucker and then one day This is after two didn't boot it like after house on the hill And we get our first show. This is like the last week of it being billboard live before they changed it to one Oh to one. Oh, right and We get in there to do the show About seven people came to that motherfucker, bro. Me and Joe moses on stage all over our homie I'm talking about the stages filled up with homies and seven people came in the crowd And then we just had the homies go out Now it's keys and I done been there so many times performed at that motherfucker scene changes in the ship But it'd be like that sometimes man, you know, sometimes you'll think it'll be the biggest shit because you got this one thing going And then you'll come and nobody shows up and then you'll go to another city and the shits the fucking most packed Shit in the world. They get people can't even get in so You know, if you believe in yourself, bro, just keep going like you said, it's got to be that passion You got to actually like have fun with this shit And uh Or else it'll eat you up. Those are the moments to tell you who you are and if you really want it Yeah, it's it's the seven people in the crowd That we just decide what what it's really going to be for you. Yeah, because with them seven people I'm still gonna take my shirt off Yeah, you feel me I've seen it. I'm still gonna cook. I'm like it's light out there tank Cool, cool. Let's get it. Let's get it. That's what we do. That's what we do appreciate you brother We appreciate you. Um, my name is tank. I'm jay valentine and this is the rmb money podcast the authority on all things rmb. Yes, sir. He's not a rapper rmb singer not a rapper And a lot more and is he is all things Sing it play it Write it get to know that I appreciate y'all for saying that appreciate the platform appreciate everybody that's out there tuning in Appreciate everybody that's clipping this shit And uh, we'll be back for more man. Yeah, shout out to all of niggas that be clipping up again I see what you doing The tycoons I love the sun Live from the sun rose from the sun rose This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human