Mojo In The Morning

Get Out of My Spot

14 min
Apr 15, 20263 days ago
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Summary

The Mojo in the Morning hosts discuss a frustrating parking experience in Birmingham, Michigan, where the host waited 20+ minutes for a spot before confronting the car's occupant. The episode evolves into a broader conversation about parking etiquette, with callers sharing their own parking lot stories and conflicts.

Insights
  • Parking scarcity in urban areas creates behavioral friction that can escalate into confrontation, revealing how environmental constraints influence social interactions
  • Unwritten parking rules vary by region and context, creating ambiguity around acceptable behavior like waiting times, spot-holding, and direct confrontation
  • People use cars as temporary refuges between commitments, which conflicts with others' expectations that parked cars indicate imminent departure
  • Parking frustration is a universal pain point that resonates across audiences and generates high engagement in radio call-in segments
Trends
Urban parking scarcity driving adoption of alternative transportation (Uber mentions as solution)Commercial expansion in downtown areas reducing available parking (restaurant patios taking spots)Regional parking culture differences affecting social norms and conflict resolutionParking as a source of community frustration and radio engagementShift toward app-based parking management (ParkMobile mentioned) versus traditional meters
Topics
Parking spot etiquette and unwritten rulesUrban parking scarcity in Birmingham, MichiganConfrontation avoidance strategiesAlternative transportation solutionsDowntown commercial expansion impact on parkingParking enforcement and meter violationsRegional differences in parking cultureWaiting behavior and patience limitsSpot-holding tactics and social normsParking lot safety and intimidation
Companies
Identity PR
PR company in Birmingham, Michigan run by Andrea Trapani; host visited for a business meeting
iHeartMedia
Parent company of Mojo in the Morning radio show; CEO Bob Pittman mentioned in podcast ad
People
Andrea Trapani
Childhood friend of host; runs PR firm in Birmingham where host had parking frustration
Alicia Bailey
iHeart sales contact who scheduled the host's meeting in Birmingham
Bob Pittman
Featured in Math & Magic podcast advertisement segment
Will Ferrell
Mentioned as upcoming guest on ThanksDad podcast
Hilary Duff
Featured guest on Readers Katie's Finalists Publicists podcast episode
Quotes
"I'm going to stand behind and I'm going to be a parking stalker. I'm going to sit there with my lights on and wait."
Mojo (Host)Mid-episode
"Is it wrong to ask a person if they can leave their spot? They're just sitting there."
Mojo (Host)Mid-episode
"I would rather just park and walk because I know I can get there faster than like the constant driving in a circle."
Shannon (Co-host)Mid-episode
"He stuffed my door locks with toothpicks. He just had them on there."
Dana (Caller, 90 Day Fiancé)Late-episode
"Parking is absolutely included next time."
Andrea Trapani (via text message)Late-episode
Full Transcript
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Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math & Magic Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. Math & Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing. Coming up this season on Math & Magic, CEO of LiquidDeath Mike Cesario. People think that creative ideas are like these light bulb moments that happen when you're in the shower. Or it's really like a stone sculpture. You're constantly just chipping away and refining. Take-Two Interactive CEO Strauss Selnick and her own Chief Business Officer Lisa Coffey. Listen to Math & Magic on the iHeartRadioApp, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. So yesterday, Shannon and I went out to a really cool place. These guys are a big PR company in the area. What do they call it? Identity? Is that what they're called? Yes, Identity. Yep. And who's your friend that you grew up with? So it was created and run and operated by a great childhood friend of mine. It's not my friend now, but her name is Andrea Trapani. Andrea Trapani! And I love her so much. She's a hugger. I've heard you! And she's very attractive too. She's an attractive hugger. So she came up, she gave me a big hug. It was awesome. I loved it. I will tell Andrea, I apologize for being a little sweaty yesterday when you gave me the hug. I'm going to go on record and say this right now. They're located in a town called Birmingham. And I'm going to say this. I have never hated Birmingham, Michigan more than I hated it yesterday. I haven't! So Shannon and I go on this call. All right. We had a 1.30 appointment with Alicia Bailey, the star of our iHeart sales team. Yeah, Alicia. And I get to Birmingham pretty early. I normally don't go that early, but the stuff here at the radio station got done fast. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go and then, you know, make sure I got a parking spot and sit there and maybe listen to music or whatever. I pull up next to the big parking garage, big sign on the garage or the digital sign. Lot full. I'm like, okay, how can it be full? How do you know it's full? Pull around to the other side, sign in front. This one, not so digital. Lot full. I'm like, this is crap. I pull up to the thing. This little hand job thing that they have. Whoa. Lot full. So I had full lot. He doesn't listen to the other two signs. He's like, I don't believe it. I don't believe it. He had to go to the hand job. Somebody's got to be leaving sometime soon. Hand job sign will tell me the truth. So I circle. This is no joke. I circle no less than 10 times the block area looking for street parking. No. Okay. I'm looking for a place to park. I can't find a place to park. All right. I don't understand how you don't have enough people with spots. All right. So I finally see a car with its tail lights on, which means they just turned their car on. We got action. And I noticed that that car had been there for a little bit because believe it or not, 10 times in a row, you start memorizing the cars. Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, like I'm looking at all these cars. Genesis, Ford, you know, all this stuff. All right. I'm going to stand behind and I'm going to be a parking stalker. I'm going to sit there with my lights on and wait. You have to be in that. Okay. Lights on. Got to blinker. 10 minutes. 10 minutes. Come on. You didn't say for 10 minutes. There was no music. There ain't no way. Shannon. You did not sit there for 10 minutes. 12 minutes. 15 minutes. 17 minutes. Come on. 20 minutes. You could have found 10 spots by then. Shannon. Nobody was moving. I don't know if people leave their cars there for this, the winters and then go somewhere to Florida, Naples or something like that or whatever. I sat there for 20 minutes. So finally I said to myself, I'm like, all right, I'm looking at my thing. All right. It's getting 27 after or somebody that 20 minutes after. I'm like, all right, put the car in park, get out of the car, walk up. No. Person jumps in the car. I go, Hey, are you going to be leaving anytime soon? You did not. Yes. Is it wrong? I asked this question. Is it wrong to ask a person if they can leave their spot? They're just sitting there. That person didn't need to sit there. There wasn't like they were doing anything they were getting ready to leave. And this lady's in there and she's kind of like fumbling around. And I said, Hey, I got a meeting in three and a half minutes with Andrea Fulcani. What's her name? Andrea Fulcani. Sorry, Andrea. From X, from Xfinity. What is it? I don't know. My good God. And she's expecting me to show up at 300 park for a meeting on the second floor. Okay. I got all this stuff. I literally, I'm getting like, you know, Alicia saying, don't be late. And I'm waiting until the moment. Okay. Okay. So I go get back in my car, takes her another minute and a half to two minutes to figure out how to pull out of the parking spot. I finally get into the spot and then somebody's sitting behind me trying to get the spot because they saw my lights. All right. So here's my questions. I got to, I wrote a bunch of questions down here and these are the questions I want to ask. Is it okay to knock on the window to ask, are you leaving or just getting here? That's my first question. Next question is what's the longest you've ever waited for a parking spot? I've done this before a Christmas time. Have you ever knocked on the window and looked like a lunatic like I looked like? What do you do if somebody's waiting behind you? Do you flag them or wave them or do you just ignore them? And is there an unwritten rule about a parking spot? I don't believe you can sit in your car in a parking spot. But what if she was doing what you were doing? You were like, oh, I'm going to get there early and just listen to music. I would have gotten out of the car at some point and walked the streets. I first off, she's got to pay the meter. And I would like the little meter person in Birmingham who I know tickets you in a second. I don't know how they, I think they jump out of bushes. I think they like hide behind bushes and then wait for you to leave. I do think. See, I'm a, I'm going to answer two of your questions. Okay. The first thing I think you should or could have done is definitely not wait 20 minutes. But what I do when I see somebody who I think is coming out, I'll pull up to where they can see me and I'll do either roll down a window or I'll wave my hand like you coming out and like mouth it. Don't wait 20 minutes. I forgot my second thing. I think I was standing over them next to their car, scared them and made the move. Yeah. You intimidated them. She's parking. Yesterday. Yeah. It took me a second. I just like kept circling around and circling around. You could have walked from your house and it had been closer. Truly there comes a point though where I'm like, I would rather just park and walk because I know I can get there faster. Yeah. Then like the constant, just like the constant, like the constant, like the constant, like the constant, like the constant, like the constant. Yeah. Then like the constant, just driving in a circle, waiting for somebody to come out. Cause all of the grads right there were full. It was nutty. I like, by the way, I really like this people, these people that we met with. By the way, if you're looking for a PR company or whatever, they got their stuff together. Like they do great work. Absolutely. But here's the deal. If I come for another meeting again, you gotta get me parking. You gotta, You gotta find me. Andrea, he is not high maintenance at all. I'm going to Uber there. What's going on Amanda? How are you doing? Good morning. Good morning. I'm good. How are you doing? Fantastic. Am I a parking? You know what it was? It was the parking hunger games. That's what it was yesterday. Am I a stalker for doing what I did? So I don't think there's anything wrong with asking, but you can't be mad if their answer is like what you don't want to hear. Like maybe they have an awkward amount of time, you know, in between their meetings or wherever they have to be and they're just sitting in their car, like waiting it out. Like you can ask. So you know, should I keep waiting here or should I leave? What if I did this though? What if I call the city and say they're sitting in their car and they're not paying the meter? Do you have to pay the meter? If they're sitting in the car, yeah, you're taking up the spot. If they're saying, I don't that that meter didn't look like they were on the park mobile app. I guarantee you they weren't. I'm telling you, I think that person was just sitting there. I always have a hard time whenever I go to six salon to go get my haircut because parking is a pain in the ass at that time. Like it honestly is no joke. It's better than major cities. I have seen people in Birmingham. This has happened to me once, maybe twice of like, let's say you're meeting somebody out for dinner and you know that they're going to need to park or like I could have done, you could have done this for me or I could have done this for you yesterday where somebody will stand in an empty spot. And I'm like, you cannot do that is not allowed. I feel like you can't do that. You've never had your kids Smith get out of the car and go stand in that spot. No, I've had Luke or Joe or Jacob do that. Are you serious? I hate you. I'm a blue right there to Luke standing that spot. I'm just waiting for my no, then your dad should have gotten here faster. Damn it. It's like you at the parade putting your things down. That's right. That's a good memory. Shut up, Anna. What's up, Robin? Mojo, she saw you. That's why she sat so long. Make him wait. You know what? I think you're right. I think that they do that just to, you know, annoy the crap out of you. It is so true. Like you're waiting for the person like, screw it. I'll show him. What's going on? Carrie. Hi. Hi Mojo. So I parked in that garage at three, three parks every single day. What was up with yesterday? Leaving early yesterday. Yes. And I left early yesterday and I saw everyone circling around. So if you saw the parking spot on the third floor next to like the big giant piece of wood, so no one falls over, that's like where I sleep. You know, Oh, Carrie, can I tell you something? I couldn't even get in the lot. Yeah. You feel for me cause tell me, tell the listeners that are in Grand Rapids, Toledo and listen to us around the world, how bad parking it can be. It is in Birmingham and I'm going to tell you right now, I walk every day to Starbucks for people in the building just to get out. And now the restaurants are taking over more spots in the city like Commonwealth, just plop down their outdoor patio and took up two spots. I hate that. So everyone's starting to do that. I hate it unless it's a restaurant that I like to go to all the time, which that's a good restaurant though. That is a great place. Well, right now you'll have seating. Exactly. Yeah. Thank you, Carrie. Appreciate you. Good luck today. Good luck. What's up, Mel? How you doing? Good. How's it going guys? Good morning. What's going on, Mel? So a couple of years, I mean, not a couple, it's probably 20 years ago. I was at the Woodhaven Walmart waiting for a spot, laser spot, put herself in a car and I'm like five cars back waiting and some kids in like a white Mustang flew up around me and pulled in a spot before I could get into it. Wow. So I like gunned my car and flew up on him and I jumped out of my car and the kid goes, Oh, I'm sorry, bro. Was that your parking spot? Oh, he starts laughing. And I just, I mean, I did not handle it well. I grabbed the back of his car and started like shaking it. I was like, you got five seconds to move your car and I'm six to 300 plus black guy. Like I was like angry. Did they move? And I, the guy that was getting out of the car and laughing, he started like shaking and like, in the car. After it happened, I was like, I don't know why I freaked out like that. And I went to the parking spot and went in the store. I love it. I'm ashamed of myself. I was like, I was like, no, I'm like, everything is fine. I'm like, who was it? Who was it? Was it the security guard or the greeter they confronted you? It was like the in store, um, green, the law prevention guys. Oh, okay. All right. Wow. People go crazy. Don't mess with Walmart. Mel over there. I started shaking his car. Hold on. Not 90 day fiance Dana is on with us right now. What's a Dana? By the way, Chelsea and I were watching the new show last night with a Gino and his new girl. Oh yeah. We were watching that. Chris, what's good. So real quick, I got to the PDA. I like that. He's throw that one out there. You ever fight anybody for a parking spot? Dana? Uh, yeah, actually, um, I was the guy that stole that guy's parking. He drives a white mustang. No, actually, this is years ago at Fair Lane. I was there and some guy said he was waiting 10, 15 minutes for this parking spot and I had came around the corner and just went right in there. And this was that Christmas time. It was busy. The worst thing was this is before the days of key fobs. We had to use your key to unlock your your car. Yeah. He stuffed my door locks with toothpicks. He just had them on there. Man, that's a guy that's messing with you. You can't even get into it. How do you think of that? We've also checked what he put in your, your gas tape. You probably put something in it. Hold on. Hannah wants to say something to Shannon. What's up, Hannah? Good morning, Hannah Montana. Yes. Yes. Yes. What's happening? So our uncle lived in Hamtramik and anytime we knew someone was coming over, I'd stay over there. We, he would make us stand in the street and save their spot for parking or put a chair and drive by. They'd want to park there. We'd have to wave them off and we're like, he's like, stay there, stay there. So we would just stand there as like cones. I'm with parking over there is awful. I am going to do this, by the way. I am going to, when I need to get a parking spot like downtown, I'm going to ask Anna to go stand in a parking spot. Cav maybe. Shannon, next time I have an appointment. Well, okay. So Andrea just texted me and she said parking is absolutely included next time. Oh, she's the best. There you go. See that? Another hug from you. I love it. What's up, baby? It's Brett ski and I'm here to tell you that spinquest.com is giving out free sweep coins. All you got to do is purchase a $10 coin pack and guess what? 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