06-16-26 Part One - The Art of Iran's Deal

Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America. We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning. Hello. Well, look, I'm just, I'm one happy guy. Are you? Yeah. Because it's all about my, it's all about me. Gas price on the way in, $308. All right. And my 401K skyrocketed through the roof. So it's just all in my self-interest. Nothing else matters, so I'm happy. I paid $409 and I thought, what's going on with this gas station? Don't they know what's going on? Don't they? Are they not reading the news? As if that's how it works. The gas station owner goes in, reads the news. Oh, I guess I need to drop gas prices. I paid $409, then I looked at it. It was, contains zero ethanol. I thought. Oh, you paid $409? Okay. Oh, I thought you said $309. No, no, $409. Okay. Yeah. And I was like, okay. All right. I mean, I don't deliberately go looking for no ethanol gasoline, but it's what they had. And my truck was saying, dude, we're not going to go much further. I think I had, I don't know, like 40 miles. I don't know how I missed it. I just wasn't paying attention. A lot of traveling over the last month or two. And I thought, okay, zero ethanol gas. Gas up. I'm willing to pay extra for that. I really didn't have a choice. I could sit there and let my truck. I don't tell it died, but yeah, I, I've been paying locally 313. I paid 299 the other day, but I had a 10 cent discount. So the, the, the normal price was 309 and I paid 299. That was a good deal. I had, I think I saved $2.50 or something like that. And I was like, I was freaking out about it. Of course I drove, you know, nine hours to get the discount, but that's not, that's not the point. All right. So this is about 10 minutes for the show and, you know, just thinking, okay, what do I start with and. Found an audio cut that made it so I don't have to do any work. Yeah. What do I think of the entire situation? So what did you choose? Megan McCain's husband. Okay. Ben Dominic basically has our opinion on all of this. And I'll say our, because I'm very familiar with your opinion on everything that has been, uh, been done here and Trump on foreign policy in general. He was on Fox yesterday. Here it is. All right. All right. And, and I think you'll sit there and go, yeah, I agree. Here we go. Now it's the full context. It's about a minute and 15 seconds long. Okay. So here we go. Now this president has been the, I think he's been the best foreign policy president of my lifetime. I think that he's been incredibly bold. He has used American power to restore our sovereignty, to protect our interests and to look out for the American people. And I think it was a gutsy call for him to go into Iran when he did. He didn't have to do it, but he did it. He thought it was the right time. And I still think that that was the right decision. This deal and everything that we know about it to the degree that it is being spun in public by this, you know, in behind the scenes by the administration, everything about this deal seems bad to me. It all seems bad. It all seems like a setback. It doesn't seem like it meets any of the measures that the president actually put out there of his goals when it came to this conflict. And look, at some point, this Republican party needs to decide which kind of foreign policy it's going to have. Is it going to be an America first port foreign policy? One that is bold, that uses American power in key moments decisively in order to affect what it wants to achieve? Or we can just backslide into being some kind of hillbilly Obama kind of GOP. That is not something that is acceptable to me. It should not be acceptable to Republicans. And it should not be acceptable to any conservative who is interested in the success of America going forward. Yeah, I mean, I think we lined that out on last night's show. I don't see anything positive here. The spinning already is becoming weird. Can I ask you this? Yeah. When he said hillbilly Obama, was that a shot at JD Vance? Well, if JD Vance writes a book and then they make a movie, I mean, if Obama writes a book and then they make a movie on it. It's weird because you and I kind of made a similar comment in the pre-show meeting. And it for him to say that, it was like, I don't know where hillbilly came in, but maybe it was. Yeah, that's a first thing I thought. And I don't know if it was before or after JD Vance said this yesterday. And this is where, again, you look at how they're spinning this and you're like, stop, here's the quote, JD Vance. Quote, we are hearing from both Iranian hardliners and political leaders that the past 47 years of hostility with the United States have been a mistake and that it's time to turn a new page. End of quote. This is where you might want to consider writing a second book, Hillbilly Political Eulogy. Because if you believe that, then we need to have a conversation. Well, and if you don't believe it and you think other people will believe that about the regime, then we also need to have a conversation. And I noticed the, because you get into the minutiae of it, the president and JD Vance yesterday saying, and then people are saying the US is going to give them 300 billion. I don't know anybody who thought, who has said that have looked at what we, they've been promoting in this agreement that has said that. This is the investment would be the potential investment of Middle East countries, whatever. And whether it's 12 billion or 25 billion that they're talking about. Iran was saying at one point, I think 300 billion. But it's not US taxpayer dollars. That's what they're trying to make. That would be investment that would be done by the Middle East and whatever. Nobody has talked about taxpayer dollars. And the 12 billion or 25 billion would be releasing assets that the sanctions have stopped from going to Iran. Because they've been funding their proxies with that oil money, which has been attacking US interest for the longest time. And so when you pay attention to what they're saying, they're really not arguing what the critics are arguing. The critics aren't arguing that it's US taxpayer dollars. So I got to go back and find it. I think it was Jason Chaffetz that said it. I was listening to it on the radio on the five on Fox News. First of all, saying he'd been briefed on it. And I thought to myself, well, it sounds like Lindsey Graham hasn't been briefed on it. Why would you be briefed on it? But he said he had been briefed on it and all these things were going to happen. And and sanctions wouldn't be lifted without these conditions and everything else. And I thought, well, I guess we'll find out when we read the text. By the way, he also said that we would be getting their uranium. And the US is the only country really equipped to get the uranium. I I don't buy it for a second. It may be in the deal. It may be in the language. But I don't buy it for a second that that's actually going to happen. And Iran's going to let us get away with it. I could be wrong. If we do get it, which, by the way, is going to be a massive effort, given where it is, buried under rubble. Again, we're the only we're the only country that's fully capable of actually going in and getting it. And if that's the case, that will be a very interesting set of events. I don't believe it because I don't believe Iran. I don't trust Iran. You know, if if this is Iran on its knees. And I a total junior is on his last breath. And the IRGC is a ready is almost ready to give up. But first of all, I don't know that any of this is true. And I don't think the IRGC is ready to give up. I think it's what you said. I think they look at this and say, we're going to die one way or the other. So we're going to go down fighting. But if that's, you know, if that's the case and they're looking at giving up, or we come in and take them out. I just again, I'm making this. This is all unicorn territory. I don't expect that to be in the language. Contingencies I do. Show me those contingencies. And and if there are so many contingencies, the way it was lined out by again, I think it was Jason Chaffetz that said it. I wasn't watching it on TV. I was listening to it on the radio. If if there are so many contingencies, then is it really a deal? It's not a deal until each of those contingencies is met. Oh, yeah. And as as we mentioned yesterday, look, part of the problem is, you know, because you're seeing some of the influencers come on and say, well, you really don't know. It's that look, we're going by what the administration has said and what the possibilities are. And I think every single Republican conservative outlet has said, release it. And as most people have said, if Trump believes that he has a slam dunk, he is the first one out there promoting it 24 seven. Yep. And this is the deal. Here it is. Here's what we're going to do. This is what this is what locks them in or whatever. And I have created the greatest peace deal in the history of all peace deals. Yeah, we know how Trump, we know how he reacts to these particular things. There's a lot of Republicans yesterday saying, wow, he's getting out of the country very quickly here. And he's letting JD Vans do it. Then the stories are out there and they're not denying it. That Radcliffe against the deal, Rubio against the deal. And who else? There was Rubio. Who'd we mention the other day? Rubio and Hegzeth and Hegzeth. Hegzeth, all, you know, all against the deal. And Radcliffe saying, look, the fact that they're saying they don't want to have nuclear weapons, they're lying to you, Mr. President. Yeah, right. They don't they don't mean it. Right. And then so much of this is the president back and forth one day saying, you know, one day saying, you know, they really don't want, they really want to work with us. Both parties want a deal to work this out to get rid of the nuclear weapons. Then the next day, we're being basically said, we're, it should have been I'm being played for a sucker. Yeah, because we're is he is the only one. Right. So he's saying, I'm being played for a sucker. And the next day, the exact next day. Well, we really believe that the Iranians want a deal. You look like an idiot. I'm sorry. You can be the most loyal Trump fan out there. This is completely totally unacceptable statements contradicting themselves from the president. Now, I'll say this, you may have the majority because the majority of America was against this. His poll numbers might go up. With gas prices going down. Could be this to us. This is not about poll numbers. And I was kidding when I started the show by basically saying, well, I'm doing fine. Gasoline prices went down. My 401k was booming yesterday as if that's how I'm going to judge it, you know, by monetary things. And I'm not. I look at this the same way I look at 9 11. The same way I look at radical Islam. And Andrew McCarthy yesterday. Huh. Uh, either the president doesn't grasp or can't be bothered to address the regime's ideology. A core principle of Sharia supremacism, including Iran's Shiite version, is that lying to the enemy is a key part of the warfare. Yeah. War is deception. Is what they believe this, for example, is why even as the overwhelming evidence shows, it was advancing its nuclear weapon program. The regime insisted that its leader, then our departed I had Tola had issued a Sharia law edict against nuclear weapons. This would have been hilarious had not the Obama administration adopted it as part of its rationalization for their joint comprehensive plan of action. Right. It is a long standing position of the of American administrations of both parties to pretend that the Iranians negotiate in good faith and are serious about it. The Trump administration is no different. In fact, vice president J.D. Vance is crowing that the incumbent administration negotiates directly with the regime. We are evidently to celebrate that they now lie to our faces rather than through intermediaries while that's progress. Yeah. Since the administration is trying to dizzy us with the spin about the MOU, instead of just showing us, that's the memorum of understanding. Instead of us just showing it, it's more important to understand this is not an agreement. The MOU is an agreement to talk about the eventual agreement and talk and talk and talk as Iranians have mastered doing rather than making binding commitments on matters vital to American interests. The only thing that seems clear is that the world's leading state sponsor of anti-American terrorism is going to get lots of money. We might even analyze it to the pallets of cash for nothing more than opening the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran had not closed until Trump decided to launch a war. He had no intention of fighting to victory and to wave off advisors who warned him that Iran could close the Strait. The figure under discussion is 24 billion upfront. We've also heard of 12. And then they before they we get to the astronomical sums down the line on this score. And this is what we talked about earlier. The Washington Free Beacons Adam Cradle reports the Trump White House emphasis that Iran is merely getting its own money back, not American taxpayer funds. How stupid do they think we are? Iran's funds are frozen based on sanctions imposed, in part due to its terrorist support. In addition to its nuclear weapons work, its ballistic missile work, its human rights abuses and targeting U.S. military and civilian vessels on the high sea. If the U.S. could keep funds from Iran, but is now instead allowing funds to be paid to Iran, that is material support to a state sponsor of terrorism, which the Iranian regime has been since the early 80s under a formal State Department designation. That basically says it all. And when you get to the point of the minutiae, they can't back it up. And that's why you have J.D. Vance going on things like Megyn Kelly. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's this whole thing is, I mean, it reeks of fubar. And the spent part of the frustrating part of it is when Ben Dominic talked about the fact of because we did how much we were able to do. Because we did how much we have respected Trump's foreign policy. And it's like, this is a different person. No, it is. No, what in it's as if Obama's in the Oval Office advising him and Biden. And then talking about the fact that we can be economic partners or whatever right after he said, boy, they're playing me for a sucker. And then you put out statements that back up your earlier statement that you're being played for a sucker. Right. And you're going to sign it. Right. Or J.D. Vance is. No, they've already signed it. Yeah. It was no well Sunday. Yeah, electronically. Yeah. Yeah. We are Red Eye Radio. Brought to you by Hot Shot Secret. Hi, I'm Jen Loomis, a transport safety expert at JJ Keller. In order to manage speed, you need to understand the four factors involved in stopping a vehicle. 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I really hope my heart doctor is not listening right now Dr. Stone if you're out there I was just Kidding it's low carb right and isn't peep jerky. Well, the brisket may not be yeah, but it's brisket high in fat. I mean, it's And it's a good fat. I need a little fat. I man. I I could go for a little I You know there there's one barbecue place we go to where My wife when she gets a chopped sandwich, she doesn't like it very fatty and most places you can tell them Hey, I don't want it very fatty or I want it pretty fatty and man, they will They will they there's what this one place that will load it up. I love the fat and So one time they said fatty sandwich. I thought they were calling me fatty Oh, oh they mean my meals ready, okay, so Yeah, I'm loving the beef these days It's not cheap, but man, it's good All right, so Getting back to the Iran thing. You know, we had said last week We said here are the possibilities where the president would go and where the president is going is what we thought was the number one way He would go. Yeah, right. We figured that he would back off On it and was this here's this Gerald Bay editorial board Wall Street Journal Trump's willingness to use military force when no one else would has set back Iran's nuclear program military and industrial base The result is not Obama deal 2.0 because unlike 2015 Iran's key nuclear facilities are in rubble and its enrichment of Uranium has been halted for the first time in 20 years the media critics and Democrats who now savaged the president would have stood by while the nuclear bomb became Exactly the way it came to be just like it did in North Korea But there's no denying that mr. Trump is retreating from his main goals as political pressure is built at home and finishing the job requires Greater military risk despite Israel's urging he never authorized a mission to seize Iran's enriched uranium He never tried to reopen the Strait of Hormuz by force those who say mr. Trump had no alternative to this retreat Ignore the US blockade was squeezing Iran more by the day while Iran's blockade was leaking Mr. Trump simply didn't want to endure higher oil prices for longer This is his choice not a strategic imperative The new deal extends he ceasefire for another 60 days Though our guess is it will be renewed perhaps many times the US blockade will end as Iran demands the Strait on a timetable so traffic can be unrestricted This seems to be mr. Trump's goal, which will mean lower gasoline prices before the midterm election, but Iran says Hormuz will not return to the status quo and it claims it will charge a fee not toll Where's John Roberts here? It will charge a fees not tolls, but it's an attack as if that's more than a semitic difference right and That administration, you know, you know, that was the thing too you had well eventually we're gonna get to tolls and the president came out again and said You know, it came out said no there will be no tolls. Well, yeah, cuz it's fees not tolls Don't play Democrat games for God's sakes The full memorandum of understanding text has not been released and Mr. Trump says some of it is a little conceptual, which is the problem It would defer most matters of the nuclear program to 60 days more 60 days more of talks with oil and other sanctions relief along the way In exchange for diplomatic progress this linkage is crucial But pushing off the most difficult nuclear issues Intox with dishonorable people who don't deal in good faith as the president called them on Friday Does not inspire confidence If the regime will not agree to dismantle its nuclear program now Why would it do so after weeks of oil exports? money coming in and other relief a Strong nuclear deal is not hard to define Zero uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing no stockpile of enriched uranium all-revelant nuclear facilities centrifuges and Manufacturing sites dismantled complete disclosure and unrestricted inspections. That's it Any Iran Statement that it doesn't seek the bomb is meaningless So mr. President, please stop saying that and Mr. Vice President, please stop saying that Especially after you admitted you're being played for suckers you said it We're judging you by the statements we're judging this administration by the statements that they have made That contradict themselves day in and day out on this well, here's the thing Essentially if you read through the garbage of this whole thing This is an understanding to continue the talks Yeah By their own definition of what they're saying The plan is to keep the current force posture during the 60-day negotiations a Senior US official told reporters on a call on Monday. This is from Fox news.com We hope to draw them down, but we're not doing that yet The key part of that is the 60-day negotiations because it's being presented As if it's a deal It's not a deal, which is why they have to call it a memorandum of understanding and The problem I have with that name Memorandum of understanding or MOU which sounds like a really horrible university Sounds like we where you go to study to be one of the three stuages. Hey, Moe Moe you Moe you Why I ought to This why I ought to 101 the problem is is That it doesn't change Anything It only continues the talks for 60 days And Israel's come out and said well, we're gonna continue to defend ourselves. We have to we're here We're here in the Middle East and we cannot sit here and not defend ourselves because you know, there was the the media Really making the obvious observation and I heard it from different media groups Fox News CNN MS that used to be or whatever they're called and They all put out basically the same thing, you know, and it's Again just a Memorandum of understanding a 60-day period Where nothing is really going to change If and they were talking about The and they made the point they all made the point Israel could you know throw a wrench into this whole thing by defending them, you know, I'm put I'm praising the defending themselves They said by attacking if they're attacked Well, they have to defend themselves. There's no way around that and they're going to do that Netanyahu said it. I haven't seen the deal. I Don't know if anybody see here's my question has Trump seen the deal Well, you know that what part of the thing that you saw yesterday were Some Trump supporters talking about the fact well, they haven't released a deal So we need to be quiet on it everything that we're judging the administration by are the things that they have said that does not instill Confidence, right? No, I haven't seen the text neither have you right But they have promoted it and they're out actively promoting it and we're basing our opinion based on what? JD Vance and the president are actually saying right and the things that they're saying don't make any sense Well, if they did an e-sign on over the weekend Then it tells me that all parties have agreed to certain things tell us what those are Exactly tell us what it is That's not you know and to sit there and say well, you shouldn't you shouldn't judge it because the text isn't out there We can certainly judge the president by what he says every day when he contradicts himself and JD Vance when he comes out with Asinine statements like every single war has been a negotiation including World War two that was unconditional surrender Right when you make statements like that and when you make statements, you know that show we believe exactly what this regime is saying You know, they they told us they don't want they believe the last 47 years Was a mistake and when you understand Sharia supremacism as we do You look like idiots and you admit you've been playing the administration Trump admitted he was being played for a sucker Yeah, and then his administration puts out statements That back up the fact that we're being played for suckers again and we're buying it. Yeah Yeah Yeah Because you can't defend the things that JD Vance has said and then the only thing that they did was they go after You know the minutia of like and then we hear $300 billion US taxpayer dollars aren't going we didn't say US pay or tax Nobody has made that argument. Nope You're putting out a straw man out there. It's the investment It's the possibility of massive investment when that whatever that number would be It's the fact of the imagery You're electronic to sign the deal. That's enough. You don't need to sit with members that are represent the Iranian the Iranian guard revolutionary guard and Stand and shake hands with them. You look like again like you're a sucker that you admitted you are Yeah, and that they're in control, right? And and so Yeah, we'll when when we see that when we see the deal we'll comment on that We're commenting on and they're criticizing people for saying well Well, so this is in the deal because this was sources say that's you know, well, no, that's not in the deal We didn't say that we said the investment we know that the sanctions are being you know If the sanctions come off they get their money back. That's been the whole point. We know it's not us taxpayer dollars Why are you saying that? Why are you putting that straw man out there? Well? Well, how are you? Promoting that it's a good thing It's already been e-signed, but you're not letting anybody see it. Yeah If it's a good thing Promote the daylight's out of it and put it out everywhere You would have put it out over the weekend after it was e-signed you put it out to the media Here's what's in the deal because you know, what's going to be shredded We are red eye radio More with gerry mcdomara and eric harley It's red eye radio We're radio, he's eric harley and i'm gerry mcdomara welcome in good morning. Thanks so much for being here this morning. Yes, so Just to the administration. Please please stop it. I mean you're sending jd vance out there He's doing the circuit, you know going to be talking about the the the deal and everything else And then when people have questions and you start putting out things and people start saying, okay Let's analyze what you've said here to come back and say then well, wait a minute The the text isn't out there. Well, then don't be out there promoting something if the text doesn't exist Yeah, don't say anything until you release the text right don't play that game If it's already signed Why can't we see it? Yeah What are you hiding? It's been signed the deal because you're not going to change the text of it. Are you going to Are you going to omit some of it when you release it? Are you going to release it in in batches? I mean this is beyond bad And how it's being handled There should have been a text posted on social media by the president after it was signed Boom here it is also at whitehouse.gov boom here it is Why not Ask yourself why it wouldn't be Why wouldn't that be the case? They're promoting I don't know how many elements of it Let's see it in its own words Let's see what you sign by the way to just see what the president said yesterday That I had no intention of ever having regime change people are like stop it Well, yeah, because you know the other also the other day it was last week You know the regime that obama was dealing with those were bad people, but this is the best regime I've seen yet And I'm thinking are you kidding me? Yeah, I know are you kidding me? But right after he said we're I'm being played for a sucker. I know By the Iranians. It's just all over the place. I know Top of the hour news is brought to you by house products visit house products.com This is red eye radio on westwood one Hey there, I'm paula pan. 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He is Eric Hurley and i'm gary McNamara Actually, the biggest controversy uh yesterday forget about uh the mo you Hey, mo Uh forget about that forget about you know gas prices already I've saw you know coming down or prices in general or inflation Or anything else out there. This really was the thing that infuriated the left yesterday and this was the You know the the the the match at the white when I say match. I don't mean soccer Uh football whatever. Yeah, uh, it was the the match on the white house lawn, right the ufc fighter Josh hawkett after winning said this are you ready? Okay, here we go. Here we go. All right. Here we go This is the big controversy from yesterday. Are you ready? Okay. All right Now Here's the thing and because I didn't see any of it. I could I could care less uh, you know Whatever Uh, I'm I'm not like the the left. I mean the left attempting to define what the culture of the white house should be Which of course is ridiculous bringing it back to the 19th century Like when when teddy roseneld had boxing in the white house. This is modern society What we need is like biden had topless people walking around And then and then hillary clinton Yeah That's as embarrassing the white house, uh your husband. Yeah, yeah We're gonna get your husband into that one what he did in the overall but here's a question that I have because we're we're trying We're always trying to figure out the rules of the left. Uh-huh If you can't define a woman It means you can't define a man So if you allege That somebody is a man or a woman and you're on the left. Why do you find that insulting? If you can't define what the insult is Because you can't define the term Right. Hey, what are you angry about? Yes Are you angry because michelle obama has not come out and said I am a woman and therefore you cannot judge her gender slash sexuality Right We're just we're trying to figure out the rules but The fact that the ring was sponsored by bud light What the hell's going on there? Yeah No, that controversy thing is over Well, and then I would have to ask the question about the the the fighters Josh, I mean with bud light surrounding him as he's saying michelle obama is a man Mm-hmm Is is is that an approval thing is it a disapproval because of bud light? Yeah, and their previous support Even kid rock is back to drinking bud light He said he dropped it like real quick. He said it was Because it was a joke in the moment and for me I was over and it's you know, it's the beer I drink like so I'm I'm thinking that that was an indication that the white house now supports a radical transgender movement, right? They're in agreement with democrats. So, uh, why would they be upset? I don't I don't think there's a reason to be upset. So we're just trying to figure out the rules Yeah, if you can't define a woman We just ask questions right you can't define a man. Yeah, all right. So if you can't define the term Why is saying michelle obama is a man an insult? Right? Yeah, we What do you have said about exactly explain the rules to us? Yeah, what are you? What are you upset about exactly? Yes exactly? What what is the part that makes it an insult, right? You know, it's this is the conundrum they create This is is on them Their rulebook changes every day. We're just asking what today's rules are This is what we this is the difference between us and scott pelly. We are always mega curious Right, we're trying to understand the left. We're not in awe or impressed by Andrew mccabe and his ability to carefully phrase what he was saying to me. I'm like, dude You're a dork What is Are you kidding me? for that former top official from the fbi is is Carefully phrasing what he says. I was very impressed by his school So Yeah, um, that's also the skills of a very good liar I almost believed eric did play with aro smith He said it so confidently now I I do remember Now maybe there is some justification, but i'm going back to uh early 1960s mentality Okay, I can't go there because I wasn't born yet when then I remember the neighbor across the street and my brother Yeah Were teasing me By saying gary with the cute little dimples and the curly q in your hair And called me a fem Remember that when that was an insult You're a fem I'm not a woman. You're a fem You know, I it was I guess that insult was gone by the time. Yeah, it was it was big when I In in the 60s. Yeah, that was okay, and I will I I can still remember Right, you know, and it wasn't even the fem that bothered me so much It was my brother And day from across the street. Well, he would just be dying laughing at day for I haven't seen davin years He'd be dying laughing Gary with the cute little dimples and the curly q Now I felt a rage That I have only felt When I had the rage of a serial killer because I couldn't hit the ball with a stick on the golf course Then you cried and your mascara ran and you said not a fem. No, I I can still remember I ran I must have been probably out of seven or eight And and I ran back in the house and my mother got me some ginger ale and I laid down on her lap and we watched tv Yeah Very a very feminine action by me I was gonna say were you watching soap operas? Was mom watching her stories? No, you know it was on that night. Huh billy gram. I remember that I remember that billy gram was on there you go That's yeah, that's legitimate right right there Yeah, all right Yeah So, you know, maybe maybe the outrage is justified, but so were you a religious fem? That workout Faithful fems That's the name That's not the name of my next band, but that's a that's the name of a Some band there was a the band is it the violent fems the violent fems There was a band called the fems that that that used to play uh at the uh the uh As I call it the cbgb's of buffalo, which is the continental way back then the faithful fems the faithful fems Have a bunch of candles on stage and the whole thing You know, yeah You know, I don't know how to end this What I don't know I don't know how to come I don't know if there's a completion of this thought here No, here's the thing, but don't we live in a world of incomplete thoughts? Yes inconsistent thoughts. Yeah our job now is is not just waiting through the garbage It's waiting through the garbage from everybody It's from everybody And I'm thinking to myself You know because I've always wanted been one of these people that I don't trust anyone fully I asked my mom for a picture idea every time but it's you got to trust but verify. That's what I was told and so It's still it's it's getting so bizarre That I trust nothing You know, I mean Again if what was said on the five yesterday Is true and I believe it was Jason Javits again. I wasn't watching tv. I was listening to it on the radio saying This is you know I've been breaching this is what's going to happen and part of that is we're going to get the uranium And I've said two things have to happen Regime has to be gone. Uranium has to be ours full stop Done. I mean no other exceptions No exceptions to those items and If that's the case You know I said to you during the break Look if it turns out we get full possession of their uranium that will be a Big plus I won't say that will be a win It will be a win in their and in their efforts to one day get a nuclear weapon No doubt and I think we've had a couple of wins along the way already to delay that effort well It still leaves this, you know big What's this investment that's going to come about for Iran which again the money will be controlled by the regime Which there is no doubt no doubt No doubt They'll use to fund their proxies And I Again, I can't see a deal That's going to be acceptable that leaves the regime in place And I don't see the regime standing down What I see is a deal here that is in they by their own admissions Gives us 60 days to talk You've been talking for longer than that Already why do you need a memorandum to continue talking? To lower gas prices Is it if Iran decides to go back to work doing what they do And israel has to defend themselves I mean, that's the whole point. I don't see anything binding here because nobody trusts Iran Well, but the point is if israel attacks will the united states Or the united states just not do anything with the united states blame israel. No, I'm guessing before november 3rd The the u.s won't do anything. I mean, I think my u.s would defend their own Assets in that region well as we said last week this that was our what the president is doing was Our what we believe would be the top option politically for him that he would back off and take the hit and well He's trying. Yes. Since the well. No, I mean you're you're going to split the base on it but overall Remember the majority of the country. It was like 65 35 against being in this war to begin with So politically it could be as we talked about last week could be advantageous for him And if gas prices come down now the other thing though, he's going hog wild now on new tariffs So whether you're going to see a reduction in just gas prices and other things You know who knows But I'll tell you this. I mean when you look at one of the things that we talked about and I remember you were really Really on it was in the second term. We were afraid and part of it was What's is avanca's influence on him? back in the first on liberal domestic issues on liberal domestic issues and yeah our concern was always that that Trump would go back to a lot of his liberal roots, right? And when you look for example about how he wants equity in companies, which is completely unacceptable, right? completely unacceptable when you look at the Labor deal that I hope gets destroyed in the senate, but the house passed that trump is ready to sign That will basically make it so The the union has the advantage in any any new company that has a union will have to go to binding arbitration Within 120 days if they can't come to a contract Which means if they say our health care, you know should contain abortion That the company would be forced even if they were against abortion to agree to that But it takes the worker out of the deal You know and you know, this is a kind of you know, there's a lot of the josh holly Ism You know populist liberalism and the republican party now, you know the president remember the president was also talking about You know credit card, uh, you know interest rates to 10 percent like josh holly's doing you see a lot of liberalism Now leaking into the president's second term And that was our fear and we had expressed it You know even after voting for him, you know for a second term We always thought that would be our fear Yeah, and in a lot of cases with a lot of what they're doing It's you know pure The way he's doing the tariffs. He's not doing the tariffs selectively The way he's doing the tariffs is the bernie sanders believe Yeah Right, it's bernie sanders. Well, bernie sanders in 2016 said i agree with mr. Trump on tariffs, right exactly And so, you know, that's that's a concern that i've always had and uh, you know I'm not saying that this is part of the liberalism But the the the because he's trying to lower gas prices and we figured he would he would do this then you shouldn't have gone in in february Right, you might have done the if you didn't think you could right you might have done You might have done the blockade first done all of that and wait till after the election To do it still do the blockade sanctions whatever But you went in and the goal was The audio cut was all over the president's saying and when we finished a job The iranian people can take over their own country. That was the implication We're going for regime change and by taking out really the first two to three levels of the government consistently over that period of time you were going for regime change to now say that you weren't Yeah, right that's it's it's it's not to compliment the current regime right it's not believable. 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I you know just the the the back and forth here You know between Republicans and supporters of trump. I saw somebody call mark live in on a small farm I think it's a huge success I think it's a huge success I think it's a huge success I think it's a huge success I think it's a huge success Republicans and supporters of trump. I saw somebody call mark live in a rhino yesterday. So Wow Holy cow Really It's getting that bad. Well, look say what you want about mark and by the way He's a colleague of ours and in the past has been very complimentary of what of what we do right uh Mark says what he believes and we might reciprocate if he just gets a step together on the radio Mark shape it up buddy. No he mark mark has always been consistent of what he believes Yeah, I think he posted something the other day that I read but when I saw it somebody Oh, he's great. He goes. You're just a rhino. You just you know, you've got you've got You've got tds That's how bizarre it's getting right now. Yeah mark live in has tds. Okay, so So what so I just I gotta get a kick out of that. I mean, yeah It's but but it's like you know, like we said a long time ago when someone said You guys are rhinos. We go absolutely. Well number one, you know, I'm an independent and so are you I I vote in the state of texas. I've only voted in republican primaries. I still have never voted for a democrat But if I was a republican, absolutely, I'd be a rhino. I'm way more conservative than where the republican party is going Yeah, you know, we've said that for the longest time. Yeah, because if you call me a republican I almost feel that's an insult these days That's how dare you I And he's air crawling i'm gary mac demara, uh, is it a smart political, um narrative For the democrats to be going after elan musk and trillionaires and billionaires and all that other neat stuff interesting story from the elections Last week that came out of san francisco will have the details on what the voters refused to pass coming up in just a minute 250 years of freedom. That's what we're celebrating our founders Believe that freedom was a way of life the freedom to move forward the freedom to pursue what matters most The freedom to live fully, but if pain is taken away some of that mobility, you're not fully free I found that out myself You know watching other people do things to me is really not great. I mean look I'm not the most athletic person, but I love to be involved in things that are going on And before taking relief factor That was not the case more and more. 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It was turned down Like 53 and a half to 47 something. Yeah, whatever it was right, but that was that was turned down and and We remember in la there was a Business tax or a corporate tax that they wanted to pass back in 2020 that went down to defeat That was part of those propositions that we looked at and said Why are people on the left voting like conservatives? But voting for people that disagree with how they actually vote on the issues, right? And we've talked about personalities And if you've listened to this show long enough, we don't play the tribalism at all. We don't we don't care We don't care whether you're we don't care about the we don't we care about all people But politically we don't care we care about the issues Because the people come and go Yeah, we know how do we know well I haven't come and gone yet, but I'll be going soon Wait, oh That went south quickly Huh, I don't mean run. You know what I find the defibrillator. I know I I meant in I meant in life You know, that's we we all we all come and then we all go. Well, uh, and and so, um Uh, we we care about should we call a doctor? No, I'm fine. Okay. We And And I'm not quitting I'm doing I'm doing projects or my house is 20 years old as I'm telling you there's a bunch of stuff I'm having done. I need to continue working Oh, please my house was born in 1968 and I do say born because it's a living breathing A living breathing home Based on all the drafts in the house. Yeah, it's breathing for sure uh but we've uh, we we spent a lot on that and and actually in fact yesterday asked the question Because it to me it's Eric. It just fascinates me And and I wish I I wish I had a chance to say that I wish I had a chance to say that I wish I had a chance to say that I wish I had a chance to say that That liberals would actually be willing to explain why they think what they think Yeah, because a lot of times we have to guess because when you try to talk all you do is get screaming back and you're a Hitler and you're this and you're that and you're this or you're uh, you know, I think that's a question yesterday. Do they really believe that the amount of money is finite? That they do do they actually believe that and so if they see that uh, He's got a trillion dollars That that's a trillion dollars that somebody else Doesn't have and I found it interesting that mark Cuban Who voted in campaign for Kamala Mm-hmm was out there explaining How you become a billionaire and how you become a trillionaire? Because other people invest their money in you right because they wish to read they wish To be better off in life and as he said You know when these things happen, you know the ipos or the the you know, they they open up people get the stock well, there's After the SpaceX we'll see Some people get the stock based on the imagery of it But that's not the majority of people the majority of people get in the stock market to make money Right, you can't look at everybody's motivation because you'll always find a minority of people. You're like, what are you nuts? Yeah, uh, but even a lot of times people want even if they invest their money Irresponsibly it's because they think they can get rich quick Yeah, you know and it's like no, sorry. You can't you know you're looking gambling People believe all I can I can beat the odds. Well, probably not a smart investment And and so yeah, but you wait it's gonna be Exactly As the gambler in the family I look at the I look at the powerball. It gets up to 500 million. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna scratch house that would buy I'm a genius when it comes to money just you made you made me think about this and I have to bring it up again because still It is the definition of greed. What's that? If every anybody want the definition of greed is not companies trying to make a legitimate profit The definition of greed is not elan musk, right? The definition of greed is If you look at the vast majority of billionaires Uh They're working all the time It it wasn't even about the money the definition of greed is the woman in dalas Who this is goes back 10 15 years Embezzled a quarter of a million dollars from her employer And then spent the quarter of a million dollars on lottery tickets Yeah, right. That's the definition of greed right instead of like hiding it saving it putting it somewhere Where it would stay now The embezzling also could be viewed as greed. Yeah Yeah Would be viewed as greed or whatever you're taking what taking what's not yours, right? But that was it. It was the the process of getting that much money And then saying that's not enough. I need to buy lottery tickets with that money that I stole Right to get even richer. Yeah, uh, but I just I find it I find it amazing You know when we look at those two cases san francisco last week now There was another proposition to get rid of that tax completely that failed also But they didn't vote to increase it Right and we saw in la what happened with the the tax that they wanted to put on back in 2020 and uh, john purion national review americans are not too interested in democrats war against wealth And that's a great point Democrats have coalesced around the uh a target to pile on The the selection cycle billionaires first Plus the first ever trillionaire and the large corporations they own and manage Resenting the wealthy is the party's idea to reconnect with the voters upset about the economy Unfortunately progressive seems to have traded a set Uh, a niche of cultural fixations that no one else shares for the niche economic fixation that few others share A successful company going public and making shareholders rich Does no one injury if anything we should make a regulatory policy More accommodating for companies to seek access to public markets And he goes but he goes through the whole thing that uh, you know, billionaires are the enemy now And the fighting the oligarchy tour and they're saying really americans have other concerns Not that the democrats don't promote it, but their concerns come to what's going on in my personal life And and the the the things that that they would hope that government either would solve or get out of Well in order to have in order to have cheaper prices things like that We we have a great listener john that writes us uh on a regular basis and john writes us this interesting email here I'm not sure if he wrote this uh came up with this on his own or if he he saw this somewhere but john writes us these these points and this is the the The jealousy and the envy that applies to what we're talking about Case one He writes there have been 14 lottery jackpots in us history that have surpassed the one billion dollar mark Since 2016. I mean since we're talking politically, you know get rid of the billionaires, right? These people may have gambled a little or a lot until they won the big one Multiple people lost billions collectively. I think he means trying to win the jackpot Case two In the marketplace one or more individuals may invest money take risks a possible failure pay oodles of taxes I paid about four oodles. I think last year That's a lot of oodles. It was I Isn't normally I just pay one oodle is an oodle worth more than a ruble Uh, yes, okay, it is It well, I don't know the exchange rate. Yeah, no since since the whole yeah thing with the ukraine it is employ Employ many people right that also pay oodles of taxes again make multiple oodles Provide a useful product or service to thousands eventually likely after hard effort They may see an actual accumulation of a billion or more Which case of billionaire is the most likely to be resented? He makes a great coin. Yeah, okay. No because the one that has gone through it because I said, you know And thank you john for the email. He writes us on a regular basis. We don't always get a chance to uh respond but that That one, uh, I I think was worthy and part of the discussion But what's going on anyway, uh here and and it makes it just a solid point Because you know the the california billionaire guy power ball. I think it was he won And he just he came out and told everybody That he wanted which is the one thing they tell you not to do And now he has armed security with him 24 7 He has they work in in eight hour shifts and he has his favorite car a Porsche 9 11 collector car But he can't take anyone because his armed security guard has to ride shotgun. It's a two-seater car And true story and so You but you look at that and everybody was like, oh my gosh. Look he won a billion dollars Oh, you know, he's got a billion dollars and and then you look at somebody who's put in as john writes All the efforts everything the innovations and I made the point before Okay, if you don't like the billionaires Turn off your amazon turn off your facebook Turn off your x Turn off your cell phone Turn off all your electronics Don't use AI Don't use the internet Because these are things that are all from the efforts Of the collective of people who again A group of them became billionaires along the way turn it all in and don't use any of that You may say well, that would be a great life. That's great. Also go ride a horse Give up your car certainly give up your EV So if you don't like the billionaires then give up everything that they contributed to And walk the walk we are red eye radio We'll be right back with more red eye radio with eric harley and gary mac demara We're red eye radio, uh, he is there harley and i'm gerry mac demara The point is and and we'll have more in this uh coming up that the polls show that Americans are not as concerned as a significant portion of democrats are when it comes to billionaires and corporations and their effect on their life You know, they may look at it and go well the rich should pay more in Taxes whatever but they don't hate amazon Well, no, they don't hate the innovation. They don't hate You know the fact that they can they can they can take their You know handheld device and do just about anything with it. Uh, I just saw in fact where The the meta glasses are being used for veterans Who have lost their vision? This is something that that zuckerberg's company came up with And so you can wear these glasses and if you've lost your vision He's making them available to veterans if you've lost your vision you can say Uh, hey, where's my blue shirt? Which and it will point you in the direction of your you know standing and it will guide you and the whole thing Also for the hearing impaired. There's some benefits there these innovations. We don't want to give up This is red eye radio on westwood one