Wild-Card Recap: Comeback Caleb, 49ers Shock Eagles, Bills Bounce Jags, and Taco Bell Zyns

Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy football show, my name is Danny Hypedic, and I enjoyed by Danny Kaling and Craig Coral back and we are going over five of the six games from Maybe the best wild card round in the NFL playoff history and we're doing it from Netflix, aren't we DK? We sure are. They put put the wild in wild card round fellas. I was thinking about that all day long. Unfortunately, we did not win the Golden Globe for best podcast. That went to Amy Polar for Good Hang, but crossing our fingers for next year. Just beat it. We just lost out to Amy. It was like charges, patrons, you know, it's super close. We're going to be on Netflix for all of 2026. So you can still watch our show on Spotify. You can still listen to our show as a podcast anywhere, but the coolest way to watch our show, the Ring of Fantasy football show is here on Netflix. So we are going to have three episodes a week during the NFL playoffs. We do the off season two. So after the Super Bowl, we're still going to have two episodes a week covering NFL free agency, covering trades and the NFL draft. Danny Kelly here is our draft expert as we cover the whole off season and because we're sick of us, even after the NFL draft ends in late April, we're still doing it in episode a week, all summer. So we're going to be on Netflix all year unless they kick us off. And maybe they will, because we didn't beat out Amy Polar for that award. Yeah. Did you mention that we go to the combine? We go to Indianapolis. I think we're going to try to make DK run a 40 this year. So a lot of fun stuff coming, I would say. So with that said, let's get into wild card weekend. And before we even get into a specific game, I have to just go through this during Eagles 49ers. The game is still going when the Niners took the lead at the end of Eagles 49ers. They put up a graphic on the telecast and it said that this postseason had the most fourth quarter lead changes in a postseason ever. And I assume that meant for the wild card round. And apparently they meant for the entire playoff run, which feels impossible, right? Yeah, I mean, only we were four games in to Wild Card Round. There were 12 fourth quarter lead changes and there were two full games still to be played. And the Eagles 49ers gave it not yet ended. So I mean, I mean, bills, Jags, there were four lead changes in the fourth quarter. The Bears had a 15 point come back when the Rams came back under two minute warning. The Niners took the lead with three minutes left. Patriots charges that can kind of suck. But otherwise DK, is it hyperbole or do you think this is actually one of the best first rounds in the NFL playoffs ever? I mean, I think it's up there for sure. Just in terms of the drama, I think I saw a stat that during that 49ers Eagles game, there are three teams that had been leading at the two minute warning ended up losing the one the previous three games. So we were just like kind of expecting a wild finish to everything. But yeah, I mean, if you're into wild lead changes, multiple lead changes, huge comebacks, dramatic. Yes, I think it was up there. I mean, we talk about regression all the time, right? Teams who are in close games that win every time, like the Bears this season, right? Oh, regression is coming for the Bears, just like the Chief last year when all these close games, well, we were due for regression for some good football games. I was just joking, joke for all season. Seriously? Prime time games for the last half of the season were terrible. And we got four straight incredible games over Saturday and Sunday this weekend. Does this mean the divisional round is going to just totally suck? I don't know. I think we're still doing that. How many bad day in Monday night games there were? I think we're still doing. You know what it is, Craig? It's delayed gratitude. This is what Fernando Mose, if Mendoza keeps talking about, he's talking about the Stoics delayed gratitude. So that's what we got with the season. Yeah, to use his words is flipping great slate. It's flipping great slate. So let's get into winners of losers from the Wildcourt round, Craig, starting with five. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's one big winner, I think, from the Wildcourt round. I think it's got to be Chicago, the Bears, who beat the Packers 31, 27. And I think the most electric game of the weekend by far is the first bear. I'm going to rattle off some stats. There's a lot of good stuff from this game. The first Bears playoff win in 15 years. They were down 21 to three at the half. They were down 21 to six in the fourth. They scored 25 points in the fourth quarter. The largest comeback in Bears playoff history. In the NFL postseason teams were three in a hunt. I love these stats. They were three in 158 all time when trailing by 15 plus entering the fourth quarter teams in playoffs. It's the third largest fourth quarter come back in NFL playoff history. And the third most fourth quarter points in NFL playoff history. I don't know where you start. Like, I love the Bears. I don't know why I feel like my own team is in the playoffs. And I like think I want the Bears to win the Super Bowl. But they're just super fun. And I think the whole, I don't know, the narrative with them, I feel like has been, oh, they went on these close games. All these comebacks. It's like these late. Not real. Yeah. It's like these like late game heroics. They have a horseshoe up their butt, whatever. And to me, like teams of destiny, you don't give a shit about statistics or regression or any of that stuff. And sure, they're unlikely. But you know what they do? You know what being in all these close games do? They give you experience. Like, I bet you the heart rate of the Bears in the fourth quarter was low because they've been doing this every single game. I think they had a, they have 11 one score games they've been in this year. Like, I think that matters. And I think for Caleb, who's a young quarterback of the first time head coach and this team that has kind of just like blew up out of nowhere over the second half of the season, I think it really matters that even though it's unlikely that it's going to continue, even though it once again did today, like I think teams of destiny, that stuff you can throw it all out. Like Joe Flacco in the Ravens in 2012, like sometimes you're just feeling it. It's like in golf. Like there are just some days where you shoot an 82. It doesn't mean I'm a 10 handicap, but some days you shoot an 82. And I think the Bears are totally in that right now. I think that experience from the season really helps. I think Craig, that's such a good point. And there is actually some scientific basis for this type of deal. I, there was a concept that went, went, that was a big thing for the C. Oxford a long time. It was this concept of grit, Angela Duckworth wrote this book called grit. And based on some of the like research that they've done on people that have, you know, really tough upbringings or have basically experienced a lot of adversity. And this is the word that always came back to that like I really, really, it just resonates really well is you're a noculated in stress. So basically it's like getting a vaccine almost where your body, where Netflix, D. Carefully, I know, I know, we'll controversial. Roger and the Steelers have been inoculated. Yeah. Roger's inoculated. He was fine. We're fine. Anyway, they, your body kind of gets conditioned and learns how to deal with the stress. Yeah. That happens in those types of situations. So like I totally believe this that like having those situations coming out on top, they believe in themselves. They believe in like each other. And I mean, this was going into half. They were down. I think it was 21 to three. It's like we had basically given up on them. We're like the Packers are way better team. They're just absolutely dominating. And I have to appreciate and I really do appreciate teams that like don't panic at those situations. Like in the first half, there was that situation where Caleb Williams was screaming at Luther Burton and whatever. That was like maybe the one spot where I was like, oh god, this isn't looking good. But like for the most part, they didn't panic and they just kind of kept doing their thing and then the defense took over. I think today, AJ Brown was like, well Caleb screamed at his player and they worked. So I'm going to scream at my head. Try that and see if that's going to work. But you're right, DK, to your point, everything was going terribly. The Packers looked great. It was 21 to three and a half. Everything was going wrong for the Bears. The Bears, ummm. Turnover margin has been like the biggest thing for the Bears this year. It's like they win the turnover batter and then they win these close games. They did not win the turnover battle. They had two turnovers. The Packers had zero. And despite the fact that the Packers had three very gettable fumbles, including one by Christian Watson, into the end zone. The Packers threw an inexplicable screen pass to an offensive lineman. He rumbled 20 yards fumbled and then kicked the ball like he dropped his phone, kicked it 10 more yards. They didn't recover that. Josh Jacobs fumbled on a kick return. They didn't recover that. Jordan Love had tipped balls that could have been intercepted. That weren't there were so many things that went wrong. And and yet they still won, which I just think again kind of goes back to like if you if you if you think you can do it, it's what Ben Johnson says of these crazy locker room at speeches after the game. He's like we had a right where we want them like down 213. This is exactly what we want to be. And now they believe that. I love that. I you know the Ben Johnson thing I think I think I mean simply put I think that Ben Johnson being hired at the Bears. We talked a lot about Caleb Williams in scheme and fixing the Bears and like look at Ben Johnson's run designs and they do cool stuff and look at all the passing game and all this stuff. But the reality is the culture that Ben Johnson has brought to Chicago. It is hard to argue with at this point. One thing you're doing the regular season. But when you do it in the playoffs like that Packers Bears game that third Packers Bears game where they won even though I mean the Bears and Packers the Bears almost went three and over screen made this year. They did not lead on offense once during the entire not one play. They did not have the lead on offense for one play in the Bears almost went three and over screen Bay. But then you look at what Ben Johnson's done with the culture. And one it's more impressive to me than anything he's done with the Xs and O's. But two I think considering that fact that Chicago is what the third largest city in America and watching Caleb Williams at the desk at the Thursday in football games on prime like post game show and there's like they said it was the biggest crowd that had ever stayed after a game. They're screaming like like screw the Packers like Caleb Caleb. And I'm like the Bears have never had a good quarterback in the entire history of the team. And Ben Johnson and Caleb have revived football in Chicago. And that alone I think it's the biggest story of the entire season. A hundred percent. Not even like just that they beat the Packers twice this year and they beat the Packers three times in the last two years. By the way Caleb Williams has beaten the Packers more times than Jay Cutler, Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields combined already. I Caleb Williams is maybe the best quarterback in the history of the Bears. You're probably right. I know that sounds funny but like go and find me another one because Jay Cutler was 500 as a quarterback and mostly known for not trying. And then Jim Harbaugh struggled so much with the Bears. He went to the Colts that gave him come back player of the year. He wasn't even hurt. He was just on the Bears. Also I think Caleb already like it's not that he's just beaten the Packers. The way in which they beat the Packers. I think Caleb probably has already like two of the five most important throws in the history of Chicago. The fourth and eight throw where he was drifting to his left and like jump past down field to keep the game alive to down in history for the for the Bears. Like the only the overtime win a month ago when he hit that that ball to DJ Morph to win the game and over time that. And then yeah the fourth and eight that he did a dunes day yesterday where there's a guy at his feet. He turns around flicks the ball like he's throwing a dart legitimately only Patrick Bohom's and Josh Allen can make that throw those are the only two people I could ever imagine doing that. And Caleb I think Caleb there's a little bit of like Nick Young to him still to use the basketball reference like where it's like he can hit the craziest three you've ever seen and then still miss a layup like there is a little bit of that still with him but dude the upside in the ceiling that we see from him already is like literally Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen level. I will throw out another name the upside is Aaron Rogers and I know I keep saying this but Caleb Williams is Aaron Rogers. He is Aaron I don't want to call Aaron Rogers 2.0 but it's not hyperbally. He's Aaron Rogers height. He's Aaron Rogers the way he based his entire game off Aaron Rogers. Caleb Williams was a packer's fan growing up because of Aaron Rogers. He based his entire game off it. These are Caleb's words not mine. And so when you watch him it's not just that he is the first good quarterback in Bears history for a team that's never a good quarterback. The Bears is the only team that's never at a 4,000 year passer. Caleb this season already has the single season record for passing yards in his season by Bears quarterback. He's like 3950 that's the record. He's also very good. I know he had two turnovers in this game but he's one of the I saw this as like one of the fewest turnovers of any quarterback who's ever played in his first two seasons. Yes. The fewest turnovers. Because he modeled his game off Aaron Rogers. It's very Aaron Rogers. Yeah. Aaron Rogers has the lowest interception rate in the history of the NFL. That's what Caleb does. And so it's not just that Caleb's doing this for the Bears and revive football in Chicago. Caleb's doing it to the Packers and Aaron Rogers made his career off owning the Bears and dominating them. And Aaron Rogers will like 23 and three or something versus the Bears. And in games the Packers were trying to win. They were like 17 in their lap and one in their last 18 Caleb has now gone and completely flipped the tables. And Caleb is doing to the Packers. What the Packers always did to the Bears. And so this really is the most incredible turning of the tables. And it's the oldest rivalry in the NFL. And now it's actually like the best rivalry in the NFL. I had this thought during the game and I know this is like every NFL playoff game is probably wild and super fun. But I just remember in the shots with all the fans in the stadium. I was like, man, that would be such a fun game to be at. I remember seeing in the early parts of the game. Then obviously the Packers went up really big and I was like, oh, never mind. That wouldn't be that fun. But as the game went along and then the way it finished and then you got videos of the scenes in bars in downtown Chicago. Oh my god. Man, just magic. Just magic Saturday night too. Oh my god. People were lubricated. Something I actually thought would go more viral was that Thursday football. The thing was Caleb Williams grabs a cheese grater hat, which by the way, I'm so glad that guy's going to be rich. Who the cheese grater hat guy is just an absolute. He's the winner of the weekend. But the he wearing it, they give him cheese in a greater and Caleb starts doing it and then he picks up all the cheese and he does salt day. And then Lil Wayne posts about it and is like, I can't believe this guy with his nails painted is like destroying the Packers we suck. And then Caleb Williams puts that on Instagram with a like picks a picture of the Lil Wayne tweet and then posts with his new nails painted. He is just like he's a new breed, man. Like this is like the it's they're having so much fun. And Ben Johnson too as a coach is just sprinting all the mat La Flore like I think it's the fastest anyway. What were the miles per hour and Ben Johnson during the handshake with mat La Flore? You see got knocked he got knocked over and he like flipped over. Yeah, he's just like going crazy after the game. I gotta say Ben Johnson's got a little bit more crazy in him than I anticipated. I kind of thought when he was in Detroit that he was like a quiet guru because I feel like Dan Campbell took up so much space in the room that you didn't really have a sense of who Ben Johnson was. Ben Johnson's crazier than Dan Campbell dude. Ben Johnson's screaming fuck the Packers in the locker room, the handshake to La Flore's nuts. It feels like he let his hair down and is actually a little bit more of a maniac than we thought. I was going to say this. I wonder I don't know what the history is between Matt La Flore and Ben Johnson maybe and La Flore like stole Ben Johnson's girlfriend in college or something like it's so weird because it started from the very beginning. Ben Johnson as an introductory press conference was like man it got to be frank with you. I kind of enjoyed beating Matt La Flore twice a year. Well he was like there's great coaches in this division. You have Dan Campbell, you have Kevin O'Connell and I like beating Matt La Flore twice every year. And then I was like bullying him. It's like so weird. And like they're they're going to get fired. Don't be mean to him. It's like Matt La Flore is over here like what the hell? What do I do? And I don't even know if like Ben Johnson called the best game. Like I feel like he was tilting on fourth down. There was like a there was a fourth and four on their own territory. They went for it and didn't get all their four. Not just the fourth and four. At their own 32 yard line and analytics said to Punt, I mean this. I think that might be the first time in the history of the NFL playoffs where the analytics said Punt and a coach went for it. I seriously don't know if that's ever happened ever in the history of the NFL playoffs. It happens. It doesn't even happen once a season. Yeah. So it's like I wasn't even super confident that he was kind of locked in completely because they were two for six on fourth down and they were kind of messy throughout the entire game. Oh, so burdened. Did the Fulcadarius Tony where you line up wrong motion wrong run the wrong route and the ball gets intercepted. You never go Fulcadarius Tony. I know. I said a couple months ago or whatever that like I think the Bears can win the Super Bowl in the next three years. I mean I fully believe they go away this year. D.K. Do you think that do you think this was a magical thing versus an absolutely walking wounded Green Bay Packers team which is worth noting the entire game kind of shifted and a callston love in the best said and rookie was unbelievable in this game. My God. He had like a hundred yards and they were like first hundred yard rookie tight end in like 40 years and then I sweared like 13 15 catches after they put up that graphic but not really but 15 targets eight catches for a hundred and 17 yards or something like that like he was he was all over the place. He was their number one receiver. He got I want to say he had that two point conversion where he just lined up as like one on one and ran around. It was dominant crazy. But I will say the the game turned a lot. Edgerton Cooper the Packers linebacker went out of the game that the Bears really couldn't do anything before that moment and then the Bears really started spamming sail routes the calls of love and then it was phenomenal and then like again the fourth and down in the goal line. I mean that was like a gap pressure at the middle drew out the center and the right guard did not communicate and the teaching more falls down on the route like things really did go wrong but even while that's happening at the body language agree base I line that Jordan love was worse than what was going on in Chicago. So the belief in everything to your point Craig at some point you win so much you do feel like you can't die and that's not to say that the Bears will always be able to win when they're losing down two minutes. It's to say that it doesn't matter how bad this Kansas City Chief season was the Chiefs don't think they're going to lose still even next year like when the home returns from his ACL they don't think they're going to lose because my home is this year they don't care and so the confidence at the end of games does matter and building up the belief internally as cliche as it is does matter and I think the Bears have that the fans and that's the other things the fans players see when when fans leave the stadium that's also infectious and contagious and Bears fans are not leaving games where the Bears are losing in the fourth quarter to be traffic anymore. Yeah the irony is the game last year where they lost on the Hail Mary the commander's what derailed their entire season and now they're doing that to other teams. Yeah it's it's just I mean it you asked me if I think they can win the Super Bowl or it looked like it seemed like you were going in that direction I do think I still kind of see them as that team that's like really good needs another year and maybe we'll see next year if they can do that but that means that I'm just at the point now where I'm like could they yeah yeah no I'm what I was going with that is basically I don't think there's any team that looks like the clear cut favorite like the Rams are gonna have to go into Chicago next year or next week and play in like 19 degree weather in the cold they're banged up yeah you know the the the Bears are feeling confident I don't think that's like a game for the Rams by any means and so yeah the Bears have like very little pass rush again they don't have a great front seven to start with when they're healthy they're not totally healthy they lost T.J. Edwards in this game their linebacker was carded off like they had a tree tripilo or yeah they are the other tackle tripilo the left tackle got hurt right at the end and then you know they went down and scored and they're both out like I think yeah it's a pillow is it to pretend it is something right yeah the left tackle and your best linebacker who the defensive quarter to get a sell and said it's like the brains of the defense the quarterback of the defense throughout that's like two pretty bad injuries to not be Caleb Williams but overall I still think I cannot stress enough Caleb throwing on the move is all I already kind of want to label like one of the most accurate and best and most talented quarterbacks throwing on the move in the history of the league that fourth and eight like the consistency with which he gives as receivers a chance from impossible windows I can't say enough so I think that Caleb is the ceiling of this team goes with Caleb because there's all these reasons we can say that bears won't do it but I think they've been incredible but with that said I think DK another winner here sticking in the NSC I know your CEO X fan but yeah I don't know man 49ers the 49ers man so I'm a given this award to the 49ers slash Kyle Shanahan just won't die Shanahan that's the thing is you just can't kill this 49ers team no matter how many players they lose no matter no matter how long they're standing next to this electrical substation Santa Clara you just can't take them out they lost George Kiddled today to an Achilles tear and they still end up beating the Eagles 23 to 19 in there I just say collectively thank God I know like we need any more filling the playoffs I wonder if Eagles fans are even like you know what I'm glad I'm like pretty happy that they're happy they don't have to watch this come out no one wanted this nobody loved it but yeah I mean Shanahan what he's done taking this Jaloppias roster like so many guys have been gone like almost the entire season like they had Mac Jones who was a starter for half the year and they're going to the divisional round they they knocked off the defending champs in their place you know there's so much talk this week about how like Shanahan could never do anything but against Vick Vangio this was the worst game according to success rate this is from Shilka Padia the worst game according to success rate against any team is done against Vick Vangio since he became the Eagles oh DC so like that he kind of buried that especially considering you know they had like missing so many guys I mean DeMarcus Robinson is the leading receiver in this in this team the office is like the 60 yard catch to Marcus Robinsville did not have 62 yards in a game this season and DeMarcus Robinson had his 60 yard catch on like the third play and then caught his only touchdown of the year on the same drive dude I mean Skymore who I don't think should be allowed within a thousand yards of a football field was playing meaningful minutes Skymore like I less you know what I mean should Skyliss take away one of the wise on his name okay you have to earn the second why also so many emailed us I forget I'm sorry I forget so many emailed us and was like is there a player who sounds more like a porn star with their name than Skymore even the double why the double wise like why that's that just sounds like a porn star yeah and it's we should do a ranking of the the players with the coolest names who don't live up to them right that's that's really good we should do that because Skymore at top 10 that's a great name there was a guy recently in the NFL there's name was bumper pool but is that great that's funny is that cool now it's probably not cool it's closer to funny mm-hmm they it's weird email us at ringer fantasy football gmail like storm duck like yes I don't know if that's cool it's funny email us at ringer fantasy football gmail dot com for cool names we're guys don't live up to it but also if you think of funny names because they're easier than send those to I still want storm duck but the cows shan in though with this team I agree the healthiest player in the niners is christian McCaffrey shan hands ripping the smelling salts before the game shan and like they could barely like then Eagles were outclassing the Niners in a lot of ways and the Niners could not run the ball in the Caferi I don't think he even had 50 rushing yards in this game they could not run the ball so every third along every third down is the third along for the Niners and then shan and hand figures out how to manufacture it in the second half without even without George Kittle they started three drives in a row and they threw to Kyle use Jeff the fullback on first down he was huge in this game he drives in a row yeah I mean they're pulling out trick plays John Jennings throwing touchdowns in the Caferi they're doing yeah everything he'd time out every time there was a pause in a commercial break shanning came out had an unbelievable play yeah I mean the Eagles run the most such a vanilla offense even in practice they couldn't even fathom a trick play they didn't know what to do you know unlike anything they'd ever seen this year here's here's how I would frame it if you're being you know instead of saying this was like kind of lucky they're pulling everything out of their asses I will say the one thing I came away with watching the 49ers is man their skill players are so versatile I know that they they really I think focus on this in the draft like guys that can run after the catch guys that can do different things you know Christian McCaffrey that catch on the trick play from John Jennings by the way John Jennings was a four star quarterback prospect coming out of high school he was ranked higher than Drew Locke so just keep that in mind but the Christian McCaffrey he's probably ranked higher than Brock Perney the quarterback for the Niners I know he honestly seriously he has a better arm maybe but yeah the the catch that Christian McCaffrey made like that was not an easy catch he had to track that over his shoulder kind of like reach out you know he basically front flipped into the end zone it was a very very difficult catch nine 99 out of 100 running backs are not making that catch AJ Brown so good as a receiver AJ Brown dropped three passes in this game that were easier to catch than what McCaffrey caught in the end zone from John Jennings and frankly John Jennings made a harder throw than anything Jaylen Hertz did in this game he had a couple good he had more 15 yard was throws than Jaylen Hertz did in this game to be fair it's because AJ Brown dropped all three of them but I the Jenny but it's this is I think what coaching good coaching is to me sometimes is it's like easy to say well details oriented I think an example detail oriented is John Jennings that John is Jennings trick play it's John Jennings talking to run and then throw in the ball which is so simple but he gets a golden globe for it because if you notice he gets the ball and then when he talks to run like he puts it like he like to his chest that's when we blank and ship the Eagle safety he's like oh he's keeping it and everyone gets a little disarray then he pulls it back that's intentional yeah and I think that's the kind of thing where that's the extra wrinkle of Kyle Shannon it's not just figuring out the right time to run that play in the right moment but it's also that little practice detail that like that ended up being the difference and then having someone as talented at Christian McCaffrey who apparently is a better receiver than AJ Brown also you checked made some incredible plays like they have was he lined up wide for all these catches the fullback is lining out an extra receiver because George Giddell's hurt like thought it's insane this I it was a really cool game yeah I don't want to say that like this win is enough to kind of say like you know what this season's good enough we did okay but it kind of is I mean if you want to call a Niners fan like you're going to lose Nickbos you're going to lose Fred Warner your first round pick Mike Cowell ends is out top three linebackers will not play in your playoff game yeah they were you used line they're fifth six and seventh linebackers today Brock Perty's gonna miss half the season if I paint George Kiddell unfortunately tears as a kill is in the playoffs if somebody was like you're gonna be the divisional round I think you'd be like oh my god absolutely I would take that so I kind of think everything after this is gravy I mean like sure who knows could I mean they could certainly beat Seattle next week I think but but I mean you you have to kind of take this as like wow what Shannon was able to do this year might have been more impressive than any feet with any Niners team prior right and Mina mentioned this Mina kind of mentioned this during the game but it was like the fact that the Eagles can't pass to the middle of the field was just like that is exactly what the 49ers defense needs because this defense is just so decimated giving up so many big plays like they were you know the 31st or 32nd team you know in so many different stats over the second half of the year just because of all the injuries on defense but the fact that you know the Eagles just like literally couldn't take advantage of that was so huge just so massive in this game hi if you nailed something earlier today when we were texting during the Niners game it's kind of the opposite of Caleb you were talking about how good Caleb is on the run when he's rolling out left or right Jalen hurts the exact opposite and Brady made a good point when he was like oh I don't really like Jalen had a completely clean pocket I don't know what happened maybe he couldn't he literally couldn't see over the line so he rolls out however unlike Caleb the second Jalen hurts rolls out of the pocket he just becomes Derek Carr 100% automatic throwing it away there were two third and 13s that I think some up Jalen hurts is a quarterback and it's the first third and 13 was when the Eagles I forget the exact situation but they were in field goal range and it was third and 13 it was in the Niners territory and they ran a quarterback draw which and they got and you know maybe they're trying to get 11 yards to set up a touch push but no Jalen hurts got like five yards and then turtleed and just took field goal position between the ashes which means the third and 13 I know it's windy but they have AJ Brown and Devonte Smith and Dallas Godter and they're not even going to and the Niners are down three linebackers and they're four defensive linemen and they're not even going to try to drop back and get 13 yards they're not even going to try and that right there is like because of you said Tom Brady pointed out he Jalen hurts can't see cannot play from the pocket but the other next drive they have third and 13 and that play starts running right and in my head I was like that plays over and you know what's and here's the point there is not another quarterback in the playoffs where when they run to their throwing side like when a writing quarterback runs right is there another quarterback in the playoffs you're like plays over no Brock party just at her but Drake Bay Matt Stafford even Bryce Young like Josh Allen Trevor once every other quarterback in the playoffs probably 20 other quarters in the NFL when they start running even Aaron Rogers they can still make something happen on the move Jalen hurts can't and so suddenly when they don't have the best offensive line in the NFL to just strip open holes so everything sake one partly does is three yards down field before contact the entire thing falls apart. Yeah I don't know I don't think we have it of the week on our in our categories list today but my if we did mine would be that when my quarterback who could squat 600 pounds slides more than the opposing teams quarterback who probably weighs a hundred pounds less than him and the one who an emailer said that his girlfriend waited on at Lulu Lemon and none of the women there don't wouldn't do it with an NFL player and then when his boyfriend told him they didn't believe him because one of the girls was taller than him though he's not an NFL like I know that Jalen hurts his being smart and cautious and safe and and and the best ability is availability I understand that but every once in a while I want to see my quarterback fucking die for a first down you know just run somebody over once and he will he just refuses to do that even in crucial moments and it runs me the wrong way and and also the Eagles are conservative as hell too man like it bothered me and I'll give her its credit because hurts his best trait as a quarterback other than just the the running and being a downhill-noticed runner which he does less than a days older is he does have a good deep ball for one on one if he does anything well it's the deep ball one-on-one side-run shot yeah did that in the super versus the cheese bull times um however he kind of hit bull shots to agent brown won the win got it and agent brown couldn't do it the other one was agent brown's fault then the agent brown screamed it's here on the sideline they never went back to them they never went back to those deep deep sideline shots and frankly I think agent brown was embarrassed that he fucking bitched all year and then he dropped the ball and then he dropped another third and five with the season on the line Dallas gotter that was the worst one that was right over the middle of the field the balls in his hands and Dallas got her bailed his ass out on the next play the fourth and five and hurts bailed his ass out too so hurts didn't play to hurts isn't the reason they lost but his playstyle is part of the reason the Eagles are in this situation yeah uh I don't think agent brown could be on this team next year it'd be totally honest I think he's gonna he's not gonna be yeah I love it it's gonna be interesting they they they may have to shake up everything like do you guys think seriani is safe even after winning the super bowl last year like it just again every time we talked about the Seagulls team all year but like what does seriani do he's supposed to be he's supposed to be like the cheerleader ra ra vibes guy go to different meetings and make sure everyone's vibes are good like this team has the worst vibes of any team I've ever seen well luckily as we've kind of discussed all season Kevin Pettulo the offensive coordinator I would bet good money is gone yeah and then you know now because they just went to super bowl and seriani hired him I imagine Pettulo's gonna be gone and now the next offensive coordinator is going to be chosen by how he rose m in the team Mike McDaniel right like they're probably gonna go get somebody great and everything will be fine next year the offensive lines getting older I feel like there are things to fix but I don't know you can't seriani I mean you can have double digit wins win the division and then forget fired no I seriani getting I mean seriani getting fired a year after winning the super bowl by rocking the cheese would be hilarious I actually I've been critical as seriani is anybody I wouldn't fire a seriani I think seriani it's he's a baseball manager baseball managers like let him wear jersey for only once he probably wants to like a baseball managers with the freaking uniforms baseball managers don't sit line up anymore they don't make these decisions like that we used to think the front offices do it and the baseball managers are there to manage the clubhouse for the most part and they kind of manage vibes and they make just in game decisions that's what seriani is and we should be he should not be picking what the offense looks like and it sees a long way because then it looks like this when seriani doesn't get to pick the offense it looks like what Kellan Morgan left here with the scored 40 points and the cheese and the super bowl like he's there for vibes I just think it's silly to be like I wouldn't fire him he doesn't even do anything like you guys are fired so the Eagles will get somebody who does something what did he could do he's point is like couldn't I just stay in there and like if they want 11 games this year with Nick seriani and Kevin Patulo like get get an actual good coach somebody who like has strategic value or something like yeah I mean they they botched the end of the game too like I want to talk about this real quick before I move on from from him like this was I don't think this was picked up by the the announcer's during the game but there was 48 seconds left there sorry 43 seconds left there was 4th and 11 and if the if the Eagles go for it and don't get it they still had three time outs left and they could have gotten the ball back even if they didn't get the fucking 4th and 11 and they call time out because the freaking play clock ran down oh sure sure sure sorry it was 4th and 11 with 43 seconds to go yes then they called the play that time out because and then only a two left to which means right right in the ball that was in it was probably the right decision at the moment because you don't want to but if 4th and 16 but getting to the point where such an important play requires a time out is the Melpire that's the game management part of it's like okay seriously what do you do here what what do you do other than sit there with your your beanie pulled all the way over your eyelids pretty much and scream fans and get in fights with fans and you're not he should just wear the full like burglar mask with his holes come out he should just follow any has any coach in the history of any other sport ever felt like a fan won a contest to get to stand on the sideline and then you're like that guy you got big dom like shadow my cousin dom and they're like yeah I get it right you see when AJ Brown got this face big dom like stepped in and like yeah dom had a better catch today than it's like in an event at Disney World where it's all happening you get to walk on a pretend you're like part of the scene but like no one can hear anything you're saying and my god uh last one here don't take cop alluets Fleming posted that in the last 40 seasons teams with no turnovers 35 minutes of time position are 28 and two at home in the playoffs the only two losses to the bills in 2023 in the Eagles today so congrats Nick Serionny uh in your Princeton offense where all the receivers back to the fucking end zone okay uh other winner today I think has to be Josh Allen for the bills I mean the bills beat the Jaguars 27 24 I loved it a little basic but I still got me fired up Josh Allen looking at the team and he's like shooters fucking shoot and I actually was more fired up by all the way the players are like looked at him it was just sick and I Josh Allen has had way cooler games Josh Allen said way cooler highlights I think this today was the most disciplined game of Josh Allen's entire career because the bills had no margin for error and Josh Allen made no errors in this game and if you think about the arc of his career as the guy that couldn't really do anything but make errors and then started doing cool stuff and errors every other play alternating I thought this was a mistake level of play mistake free football on par with games I saw from like veteran Tom Brady and that this felt like the marriage this felt like the next phase of Josh's career where he still is 90% of his athletic ability but he's like actually maybe the highest IQ player hi maybe one of the highest IQ quarterback in the NFL that isn't like Aaron Rogers I was blown away at how hard everything was for him and how much he still got the ball move this was yeah it was like a rocky movie I mean he got he went to the blue tent twice in the first quarter he's like banged his hand on somebody's helmet he's out there you know you got check for a concussion then his knee when he went into the into the end zone and had twice in one play then he heard his finger and like it affected him and then on the same drive seemed like he hyper extended his name he's just a fricking superhero out there man he just keeps going and it's he's the type of player I mean like he's just watching from you know where we watch like I would run through a wall for that guy and he's a it's not even my team you know I mean I just love watching him play he's just so just tough and physical and he's just a throwback player he's running he scored two rushing touchdowns he had the he had that like 18 yards sneak that almost got into the end zone I don't know how I was like the push push that just wouldn't stop pushing the touch push that ended all touch pushes yeah the good and the players they're gonna show you had to meet it to Jaguar's defenders turned around because they couldn't conceive of the idea that this play was still going on you guys remember to it last week I was talking about how the Jags obviously this game on paper kind of benefits them because they're so good against the run they're one of the best run defense teams in FL they completely not completely but they pretty much shut down James Cook in this game he had like 40 something yards you know average 3.1 yards per carry he was not a big part of this game whatsoever and inadvertently that was they woke up Josh Allen it's almost like you'd rather have James Cook beat you I know that it's kind of like choose like pick your poison but when one of the poison is Josh Allen just going Hulk smash on everybody like I think I go with James Cook on this I don't know it's like bizarre it's tough because the Jaguars came really close to winning I mean again so I mean the Jaguars took a six as 16 13 lead in the fourth quarter and then the Bill Square to touch down the Jags quarter touchdown the Bill Square to touch down then that was it Trevor was there a pick but that was the game but I again I maybe I'm being a prisoner at the moment but I really think this game to me reminded me really more than anything I've seen since Tom Brady retired of a Tom Brady-ass game that had like seven plays where you're like wow Josh Allen's a physical alien but the the fact the thing that really stuck out to me was how covered Brandon Cooks was the entire game and yet Josh Allen kept getting the ball to Brandon Cooks and also to Gabe Davis and those guys were literally signed around Thanksgiving they were not on the team they are washed other teams don't want them Gabe Davis ironically from Jack came from Jacksonville and then was in the bills before that Brandon Cooks who is just these guys might not be on NFL teams next year and like that's like a late Patriots thing you know what I mean and the fact that Brady Josh Allen's throwing people into unthrobable windows but then that final drive that play where there's like they have they're spread out they have five receivers on the field and then Josh sees a blitz and emotions Khalil Shakir to the backfield and and Khalil Shakir looks at him as like what and Josh is like get over here and be a running back you need a block and the cheer no idea what he's doing so there's just a free Russia I think it was Devon Lloyd just sprints like dead sprint right at Josh and Josh just back foot throws a 40 yard pass to Brandon Cooks who was not on a team six weeks ago to set up the game when he touchdown is it's like the highest level of I mean I thought the highest level of football I'd seen because Caleb made amazing throws but there's an infrastructure of coaching and just crazy talent around Caleb that the bills have decided to not build in the receiving game to function everything else and Josh is just doing the entire passing game on his own yeah it's fun to see these guys who are like the freaks mature a little bit and like start to play with their heads a little more it's like when happy learned how to putt you know it's like at first Josh Allen was just hitting home once and he's like I'm just gonna rely on that and I can do that and now he's like actually combining a little bit of like maturing and growing and understanding the game mentally more with his physical abilities dude Khalil Shakir had 12 catches today because there's just nobody else right he on Coleman who was like who was benched basically in the middle of the season Tyrell Shavers Aztec but who nobody knows that guy like I don't believe Brandon Cooks Josh Allen completed 28 of 35 passes 273 yards in a touchdown no interceptions one sack no fumbles and then this one from um op to sports Josh is the first player in NFL history to complete 80% of his passes and rush your multiple touchdowns to the playoff game yeah yeah I mean he did exactly he did what he had to do in this game to win like that was like the only way that the bills were going to win this game and he did it I it feels wonderful betting on Josh you never feel out of it like it's like it's it's the same feeling as having him in fantasy or you're just like and even if the fourth quarter he could just have 25 fantasy points he completely saved your week and I felt the exact same way I was so happy that we we haven't talked about this yet but like the we're doing something that this competition ringer 107 all the football shows that the ringer have been betting spreads all year in this big competition our show is somehow in first even though we spend three minutes a week on it this week we picked five games that we felt good about we spent some time pick five games and at the very end we're like you know what let's just do the opposite let's just do the George Kastanza we're just going to flip it do the opposite if everything you have is wrong then the opposite therefore yeah we're three in one and I I gotta say yeah Josh Allen is like the most I I'm never betting against Josh. It's just I love this this is the most fun I've ever had playing 107 this this week it's just like flipping our fakes yeah because it just goes to show that either we're stupid or all of this does it's just a coin flip and nobody knows either way it's great either way I'm having fun. Oh man. So those are our winners I feel bad for the Jags I don't know if we were talking about the Jags. Yeah we'll get to the Jags. Yeah we can get the Jags in a little bit. Yeah we'll get the Jags in a little bit. So first we have to for all our new Netflix listeners here we have to introduce what you know if you if you weren't watching and you're watching for the first time. Netflix has a lot of popular TV shows a lot of popular movies, stranger things you know happy go more to K-pop demon hunters however what you don't know is that there's a different segment out there that is America's favorite segment that is that is now on Netflix and it is Farter Shark. Cam hit it. Gamer for the faint of heart Farter Shark. Woo! My goodness. I was wondering how long we were going to go there. That song is like three and a half minutes that somebody sent us shouts out artificial intelligence for that song. Yeah yeah. Oh the clankers it's that we're playing a clanker song? Clank Rock baby. Yeah well soon at the Golden Globes is going to be the clanker award for the best artificially made piece of art to thank you to the clankers for that clank rock but DK. What up? Daniel. Dan. What? What? Big Dan. Big D. D-bone. Big Dan. The Green Bay Packers Daniel. Yeah yeah. They lost 3127 in horrific fashion as you well know. They ended the season on a five game losing streak. Matt LaFlaur is now three in six in the playoffs. They have not been to an NFC championship since Aaron Rogers was the quarterback on the Packers. There's rumors circulating that he could get canned Matt LaFlaur. They're in an incredibly difficult division. Micah Parsons is amazing trade. He just tore his ACL. Kind of the the overall Packers landscape. The Jordan Love Matt LaFlaur Packers era after after this weekend's loss. Fart? We're short. I mean this is borderline short. This was a horrific loss. I can't I can't imagine what like gymnastics the Packers fans are going to have to go through this off season to convince themselves to have like good vibes going into next year. But I mean obviously look I personally don't think they should fire Matt LaFlaur. I think he's a good coach but the fact that people are it's actually discussion I think is wild. Ed policy. He's gonna he's gonna have to meet with our boy Ed. Ed policy. Mr. Policy. He's gonna have some tough conversations with Mr. Policy. Mr. Policy is going he's gonna have to go to Mr. Policy's office. Ed policy president Packers literally named Ed policy. But yeah I mean look there's there's questions about Jordan Love. I see people on social media talking about how Malik Willis is a better quarterback. That's not great. You know the absolute just failure in the second half. And this is such a cliche but it's so true. They played not to lose versus playing to win. Which is just the worst. It's just it's so cowardly and conservative and annoying. It's just gonna be an incredibly weird off season for this entire team. They don't have a first round pick this year. They don't have a first round pick next year. Yeah I want to say it's like it's borderline chart. Well you know a chart if you chart you got to change something literally you have to change your short. They're going to change. I know I would say that the very least they're going to change some of the coaching staff. I mean that they something has to change. I don't I personally don't think they should fire Matt Lefayr. What do you guys land on that? I don't either. Anytime it's like yeah the second he gets fired he's the hottest coaching candidate in the league. And John Harbond Baltimore's a little different. He's been there for 20 years. Matt Leflore that was the seventh eighth season they're good every year. He has a he has a better win percentage than Sean McVeigh. Yes and Andy Reed. Usually Matt Leflore wins like 12 13 games and Sean Payton. Yeah I got it. Literally 16th all time. No I mean they've made the Packers made the playoffs six or seven years. I think this is a really really bad part. Like one of the worst parts of all time. But to Craig's point this is not a shard you don't have to change anything. And okay I don't think you changed the coordinators either. I think you'd be lucky to get Jeff Halfley. Halfley is a Ted coach can't you don't change anything. You know what you change. You get Michael Parsons back. Healthy. You get Tucker Kraft back. Healthy. You get your right tackles Zach Tom back. Healthy to play in this game. You get Elton Jenkins the guard back out. Like the center Sean Ryan got hurt. Like they had a lot of injuries. They had so many injuries that when you watch the Packers I would argue Matt Leflore is such a good coach. You forgot the Packers had any of those injuries for the first half of the playoff game because they were dominating the Bears so thoroughly. Now I don't think Matt Leflore has done everything right because I know that the Bears scored I believe 0-3 and three points in the first half versus Green Bay in almost one all three of those games. And the fact that the Bears were I can't get over the stat. I think this is maybe my new favorite stat of the entire season after the chance not picking off the past this year. The Packers they're sorry the Bears literally did not have the lead on offense for a single play versus Green Bay this year and then beat them the last two games. But the Bears did not have the lead on offense for any of the three games that played the Bears. And I'm like first loss man. Like Packers fans fucking hate the Bears. It's like they're the big brother. They think the Bears are just this little piece of shit organization. You know they this is like when a dad's son like beat some in course for the first time. It's exactly. You're like whoa and you reevaluate a whole I was really trying to shit. Yeah midlife crisis because you lost your son and basketball. I'm like going to change anything and it's like why don't you just see him do it twice and I understand I'm not like I understand that the Packers probably lost a super bowl trip because they kicked the field goal on fourth down at the goal line down eight to the the bucket years which was insane and I understand that Matt Leflore should have learned it by now. Let me tell you something as a giant sim. It is a lot easier for Matt Leflore to learn better in-game management practices better time out usage and be more aggressive and game plans in the second half of the lead. Then find it other coach you could be 16th all time and winning percentage you morons. If they if the Packers fire Matt Leflore I think the giant should hire him in 19 seconds. Of course. I just put McManus on a friggin barge out of town or whatever that's all. He missed three. Yeah he missed three kicks he missed an extra point two field goals in this game. If you're a Packers fan and you fired Leflore who are you hoping to bring in that you can guarantee is better than him. It's literally just a bunch of people. It's far more. But like oh, you still have a thing to play collar. The Harbaugh thing is rotting everyone's brain. The funniest thing that would ever happen is if the Dolphins fire Mike McDaniel would get a Harbaugh and then the Packers fire Matt Leflore to get Harbaugh and then John Harbaugh is your tires and it's like I'm actually going to just take a year for my health and then all of these teams just desperately wish they could get their coach back because I again I know that the Packers have issues but I just look at Green Bay and I'm like you were wildly injured and I understand these issues but it is so much easier to learn that kind of man. You know who was a terrible game manager until like two years ago Sean McVeigh. Like Sean McVeigh was bad like so I like four downs time out like Matt Leflore it's funny. So was Andy Reed right like Andy Reed that was part of Andy Reed's whole deal. I have a series of 16 years Andy Reed was the worst clock manager in the NFL like it like I just it's so much easier to learn that than try to find a better coach. I'm I you don't want to be out here like that's the thing. Throw the baby out with the bath water kind of thing. Yeah. No but it's the mean with the what is it the Del Curry thing when Del Curry you know it's going to be single in that whole thread of you don't want to be out here. You got a charcoal ice cream out you don't want to be out single in this world. I'm like you want to be out you apologize to her. Seven years. Look I apologize to her the woman you liar flowers. I was educated in the Pittsburgh Steelers School of Don't Overreact and the Packers it's like sometimes you have a down year you were injured you still made the playoffs you had a bad loss run it back everything is pretty good like I it's annoying in the moment it sucks but like you're not going to do any better than this and there's no secret answer on the coaching market that you're going to find that's going to change things. They're just like he's try again next year. I mean I actually he's like one of the best coaches in the end. Only one try again try again next year the kicker is seven points of of kicks and like Caleb made the best 4th down throw in like five years. I do I do I I have a theory I want to run by you guys do you think the real like guru play callers the guys who like have it all in their heads the McVase chana hands whatever Ben Johnson's LaFlores do you think they all suck at game managing because they're actually just like to obsess and focus on what play to call next. Yeah 100% is totally a thing. What do they need to have if there just needs to be a new coach that is like I all I am is clock guy. I'm just like time out and clock guy that's 100% it's a control thing but like no it's absolutely why it's any I did a whole story in this for the ringer shout out the ringer.com great website and like I talked to like Steve Maryucci about why Andy Reed sucked with the clock which and Steve Merchie shared an office with Andy Reed for the Packers and they talked about it and there's all these reasons with the short answers. Yeah it's really hard to sit there and do all these plays and do everything and like the only coach trying to park your car when the music is really loud you know or you're just like that it's just like that. Yeah you got to turn the music off so you can park the only play calling coach who's actively good at managing the clock is Sean Payton because he was the poor sales guy. That's science and he probably text while he drives you know what I mean he could probably multitask DK you're right I'm laughing because I was a funny analogy but that's real like he might you've been in a car with somebody else trying to park in music's loud and they're like can you please turn the music down I'm trying to parallel park. Oh my god. What wills you're both right now trying to park pressure I'm under right now. Dude the first time I drove Jackie's jet my fiance Jackie's parents anywhere. We have a parallel park. Yeah yeah yeah and uh and like a very like a big street like one of them like five lane streets and I had a parallel park on the side if you don't get any one of horns. Oh that's a nightmare. Nightmare situation and I played it cool and then they're like oh well done. I like just met them. It's great. I do I think I am in a lead city driver. Yeah okay. I do go on go on. Uh first job out at college I lived in New York City and I had to drive a van around for the show America's next stop model and I would drive into a car on your first day of work. It was in a hotel under don't say that I'm gonna get I'm gonna get hurts hurts is gonna come after me but yeah I did do that. I did do that. I think statue of limitations. I've grown. It's like the bears. It's like they have you know the you had them in the first half. He's inoculated under under the pressure of dude I was whipping a van around Brooklyn New Jersey Manhattan. Oh yeah. With this woman like it's pouring rain snowing I'm trying to like get a rug into the car. I got the I got the emergency lights on and then I'm gonna show where I worked. I keep under bit. Well I was driving for America's next top model and then the woman Jennifer Greenberg shouts out to her helped me get the PA job on Unbreakable. Can me. Which is a Netflix show Craig I a hundred percent subscribe to shout shout out to everyone who's had a job where you have to drive around downtown somewhere. Fucking all day. I had a job especially right now. It's a right of passage. I had this job coming out of college where I was like working for this litigation support company so I was just delivering documents all day driving around downtown Seattle and like whipping her out like crossing four lanes to get to like a you you spot like an empty loading zone and you just like flip it you eat like it's it's it's intense out there man. It's a right of pass. It's why I don't understand how well they're training waymo's right now for Manhattan. I'm like that. There are no rules like you can drive in Manhattan is if you know how to break the rules. I don't know how they're gonna do that. Yeah it's you can't program that it's all I contacted. I got hit by a cab once. What what you should see the cab. That was actually whatever instead of Christmas Eve yeah that year yeah you should see the cab. I was you know there was a stain cook joke that about like some guy he's getting hit and she came off and I was like what I don't remember anyway it was like when I was listening to what I was nine. Remember iTunes. They cook at that big album. I bought it with your iTunes gift first. It's a vicious circle. Yeah I don't know. Anyway let's do a date cook at seventh grade never thought about it. I'm ever again anyway I'm like 24 years old very drunk and for grand central I get walled up by a cab because I was jam-walking and I land straight on the cab. I'm fine and I'm like ah and the driver's like whoa and then I like he stops out of here. And then he like stopped. He just left me alone. I land and my shoes are off and I land and it look around. Not your shoes. My first thought I swear to God my first thought was oh my god dang cook was right. Wow wow that's all right. I gathered my shoes and I ran and he was like are you okay and I thought it was I was gonna get in trouble and he was thrilled that I was leaving. You could do you untie your shoe before you put it on or you are always tied and you just jam your foot in there guy. You could but it's not well now I have ankle problems so now it's like jam your foot in there guy. I've learned in my 20s all I did was jam my foot in in my 30s I'm trying to jam you give jam by you you you you're giving jamming. I think you untie the shoe Oh I should do Craig for probably like a solid 15 years in my life I do wear shoes with laces now but I was slip on zonely like the the van slip on I was like I don't ever want to have to tie my shoes I I hate doing that. You got a bend over and I'll go sit down. I do I have shoes now with laces. I kind of grew up a little you know I'm still really from Craig saying he puts his socks on before his pants and then like took a swing. This is this has become a thing and then my army. My army came over the mountain and took over and everybody's on my side now. Makes sense it makes sense to put the socks on first Craig I somebody's a text that are in our group chain shout out pat the other day and it was like I put my socks on before my underwear today and I was like what that's what are we doing psycho psycho behavior I think the only issue with that is if somebody caught an image of you doing that that's right that's what exactly what I said I was like the imagery of that is horrific he said he did it standing up which also is kind of impressive like good balance what's impressive about that you can put your socks on standing up it's like kind of hard. I think you could have done that your 20s and saw you had an earring piercing and everything yeah fair enough I've always been very inflexible though so it's actually kind of hard what were we talking about putting your socks on without sitting down. No I was talking about it in some crime. In terms of NFL. So who's gonna have a longer offseason the green bit backers of the Eagles DK. We were talking about game management that's what we were talking about. All right. There you go see we should manage the clock we're great at it. Yeah DK I want you to do your ranking of who's gonna have the longest offseason of the team to watch right so the packers are up there I think that Eagles I don't know I can't I honestly can't tell who's gonna have a longer offseason more like insane things are gonna be up in the air. I think it's so about like dramatic it's gotta be Philly just because they're always drama there but it's close I feel like it's close they're probably not gonna do that much in green Bay honestly. No it's green Bay and here's why yeah Philadelphia is that they're happiest when they can complain about their team and being angry about the Eagles is in and of itself catharsis for Philadelphia and the Northeast degenerates and green Bay like the packers being in a state of flux is a catastrophe for Wisconsin and anyone in the Midwest are not in a state of flux that's what we're trying to tell them by that but having to have arguments with other Packers fans in a like Eagles fans just scream at each other it's hard for Packers Packers fans are my players just scream at each other very very that's what I'm saying because they adopt the culture of the city it's harder for Pat conflict in the Midwest it's different Craig it's just a different animal. Can you imagine Philly radio tomorrow? My God it's gonna be fourth of July. So we're saying that they're not gonna have the longest offseason because there's a lot of content for Philly now. Well I I guess simply put is the Eagles fans the fix will be easier which is you are going to get a new offensive coordinator and if that guy's good that's like half of it it's like don't have AJ Brown be literally the lowest slot rate and entire league it's like hey watch the 2023 tape do that that's a good start. I here's here's I think there's gonna be more big questions in Philly by far than there is in green Bay. I 100 what do you do what do we do with Jalen Hertz? Yeah I guess I'm a 2024 not 2023 don't come at me but you're that's the thing you do with AJ Brown. AJ Brown's gone Lane Johnson's 35 years old you have to get a new offensive coordinator people don't like Nick Sireonny like I there's a lot they can't run the ball that's fair well well what's funny teams that can use AJ Brown it's like teams that have a young quarterback who don't need to receive like the Raiders but I'm like the funny is the best spot for AJ Brown's the freaking Titans which is nice and they should send it back to them. Don't send it. DK we did I think we could talk with this now after the Super Bowl we did another episode and Jalen Hertz and we talked you were upset and you don't do this much but you were upset at the sheer volume of Eagles fans that were angry with you there's Super Lepa so because you had the audacity to just say the Eagles were one of those talented teams of all time and you listed like all their players on defense and offense and you listed Jalen Hertz like 14th. No here Eagles fans yeah but during a 90 second video about how good the team was and all you got was Eagles fans screaming at you that Jalen Hertz was underrated super big. That aids you really well DK for you. It aids incredibly well. Should I get back should I dive into the comments section? We post it. Flip it around. No the bottom the background of that is we did that you know break out where is basically like look here's here's the secret to winning Super Bowl usually it's having the best quarterback this year it was having the best offensive I had best receivers best defense blah blah blah and then at the very end I said and also having a great quarterback in Jalen Hertz but that wasn't actually included in the video. Oh really. Literally like eight months like Eagles fans were just in the mentions like tell me I'm a fucking idiot. I'm curious to see what that sounds like. I'm not saying this has never happened but I can't immediately think of one. Has any athlete had something quite like what just happened Jalen Hertz where he was getting paid 250 million dollars got to be concert wins the Super Bowl gets Super Bowl MVP makes two super make makes two of the super bowls the three years wins one and basically has his fan base clamoring for him to be respected among the NFL's elite and then not even a full year 11 months later you're going to have a portion of his fan base admit he's like the problem. I don't know if there's ever been a run out like maybe in the NBA I can't remember a run out where everyone's like he's should be considered as good why don't you talk about my homes the way you like it and talk about Hertz the way you talk about my homes Lamar Herbert now they got a wandering eye for Tanner McKee yeah now it's a just a Herbert on the Eagles would win 15 games a year yeah anyway I know there's not a lot of cops like I don't like Russell Wilson but it took a while that's who I kind of had in my mind Craig when we were talking about it's like for the longest time C.O.K. fans were very sensitive about the commentary around Russell Wilson in terms of like people saying he was propped up by his defense people saying he was propped up of his run game which there was definitely shades of truth truth in that but it took like a very long time basically it took so long that Russell Wilson eventually I think there was that there was a small section of the let Russ cook era where people were like oh this guy's really awesome but it lasted for like three weeks and then and then he just like went downhill after that he was traded right after that to Denver Sean Payton hated him he was traded again and that was about it there's so many similarities to me between the Eagles and the Legion of Boom there's so many similarities but it just yeah I mean if you think about just the personalities the giant personalities in the room the talent yeah it's funny there's a lot of these in a room broke because of that because they lost a super patience yeah yeah the Eagles don't have that they just won what's what is their interception they did lose a super they but this season they once felt that if you would just watch this season of the suit of the Eagles and then I was like they made the Super Bowl you'd be like oh they must have lost right that's why they all they do have that energy I like I honestly kind of forget the inciting incident you know what's fun on this I'm not saying this is why but in retrospect this story is funny hurts after you won the Super Bowl one to Michael Jordan and I'm not going to like quote Michael Jordan but it seems like what he told Jayla Hertz was like what's the secret they played golf I also just want to hear Jayla Hertz actually speak but man came in and playing golf with Jordan come and show me golf hurts people you bring a lot of cash Michael Jordan on his North Carolina golf course he designed specifically for his swing yeah they're just all crazy dog leg right and he only plays against lefties I think I think the gist of it and don't quote me on this because like it's it hurts kind of a looting to it but I believe the message from Jordan was you're not defending anything he's like everyone's going to call you the Eagles the defending champions he's like you're not defending anything you are that you were the champions you were the 2024-2025 champions this is a new season you leave it all behind and I the ring ceremony if you noticed it the Eagles like didn't go out there for the trophy president the rings and everything the Eagles like didn't acknowledge that they were the champions when they did that first game versus the Cowboys they got completely overshadowed that this happened because Jayla and Carter spent on deck press got before the first play the season but they goes like didn't really accept the way teams do and like oh yeah we're the champs they just kind of didn't go out there for it what a weird team and it's kind of backfire I think it would be better off if they were like where the champs like that probably would have played better man I don't know maybe nothing could have saved them anyway Eagles have a long offseason Packers do I don't think the Jaguars off seasons as long the Jaguars made more progress they still feel like they're ascending they kind of they the way that they lost it was like they could have won that game very easily it's like it's not like they played on the shoulder it does feel like you had a home playoff game which is kind of incredible and you squandered it in a course game and for how good Lawrence was playing up I remember when they went eight straight games like the fact that he had a bad pick to start the game and a bad pick down the game that it's a winnable year it's things I think the reason I'm not that heartbroken for them is getting started it Trevor Lawrence is good enough yeah but Trevor Lawrence week 11 on had like the most touch-dance in the NFL he was the number one pick he was supposed to be a Mount Rushmore quarterback prospect with L.A. and Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck that's the kind of guy with Liam Cohen he's 26 years old that that team can be in it every year it's the teams that don't have that kind of quarterback where you're like oh you squandered the season I will say I think the biggest thing for the Jags other than just you know like everyone they need cornerbacks and stuff but I think Travis Hunter needs to be cornerback and I'm not kidding I like they after watching the Jags offense Jacobi Myers just got a 60 million on extension he has to play Parker Washington is like better freaking good man they cannot that you will lose the locker room if you bench Parker Washington for Travis Hunter he's too good like they they actually cannot bench for he's like the best for you to team no they have to bring Parker Washington back and then Brian Thomas is the first one picked I genuinely think Travis Hunter will end the next season as receiver for and he should be in all the defensive meetings the need him on defense I don't think that's even quite like I think he's LCL surgery or recovering from the injury I think the Jags was probably end up letting Travis ET at least we can leave that we can hit that Morris Fragency comes and we can close to that but I think Bay Shaltout and today for the Jags is amazing and watching him like they don't need Travis ET and like that money needs to go elsewhere but um yeah the Jaggers are fine the teams I want to get into right now are a couple of these MVP candidates who gave us the YC specifically this Rams Panthers game that was way better than it deserved to be I mean the ramp like like the Rams were 10 point favorites again even though they lost the Carolina and they almost lost the Carolina again the Rams won 31 we flipped it flip it L.F.E.A.D.K.E. flip flip a Delphiya were you impressed enough with the way the Rams salvaged and won this game that it overcame the IK of the Rams almost losing to Carolina again yeah I think obviously look Stafford made an incredible play at the end of the game to Colby Park and Soudon made an insane catch went up and skyed up and got it pirouetted and then went into the end zone like to me that was like okay this team is still frightening but it is very bizarre how the Panthers matched up with this team and like Stafford looked human at times through a bad pick you know I just don't really understand why the Panthers are able to compete with this Rams team they did it they beat them earlier in the season and then they gave them a real run for their money here they probably I mean they came very close to winning this game but no I think the Rams are still to me like one of the scariest teams in the playoffs I think they'll be fine this is just that for whatever reason the Panthers match up with them yeah I think there's a little bit of like Seahawks fear in you because I don't know I think you returned off that's about as bad of a win as you can build like that was they should have kicked the shit out of that team and almost losing to the Panthers like twice in six weeks is pretty bad bizarre also like I do not think if I were a Rams fan right now I'd be feeling good heading into Chicago Stafford's also beat up he had a finger injury I mean the stats of like him before and after the finger injury was very clear that he was affected even though he had that great drive at the end of the game and they moved down pretty quickly I don't know to me it's like the cornerbacks on the Rams can't guard anybody like Jaylen Cocher and Ted McMillan are dicing up flat Stanley and the rest of the cornerbacks on the Rams. Emmanuel Forbes flat Stanley who is again the Rams are playing and starting a cornerback who weighs like 160 pounds. Hey he gained some weight man he gained two pounds. Yeah he had a protein bar before he gained the game. Yeah the special teams like continues to be bad they fired their special teams coach or coach in the middle of season I don't know it's concerning Devonte Adams certainly got concussed I would love to talk about that later he came back in the game actually looked like he got knocked out on that ball in the sideline Puka as we all you know hit the weekly button saying this but like got the shit kicked out of him and then Stafford has his finger injuries I'm like them barely getting through Carolina they're super beat up I would be nervous if I was a Rams fan. The book ends of this game the Rams looked unbelievable the opening two drives the Rams like we're amazing Puka Nukuah had I think the first four passes Stafford through were to Puka they look it was like a knife through butter it was like this is gonna be like a law this is gonna be like a 40 to 10 game it looked like in the beginning and that's also how the Rams looked on the last drive but honestly everything in between was pretty bad it was kind of amazing how much the Stafford finger play kind of like hitting an helmet or hand or something affected it because Stafford could still throw but he started the game eight for eight and then he went like two for his next ten Puka he had to touch on a Puka at the end of the half Puka just dropped I was a little amazed how much that rattled Puka Puka wouldn't go in a half time showman fan it's not so he was a mech tick on the sideline yeah well no not a mech tick he was it's like he was distraught like had a tonic catatonic Puka was sad sad Puka and frankly the look you could go ahead and say look the Rams are gonna go and it was like the Panthers were played well and Bratian played really well and I won't take it the way Bratian he played really well blah blah blah I actually kind of think the Rams won this game because JC Horn collided with the linebacker shareless on a play and they both left and then the Rams went down and won and the Rams couldn't do dick in that game until JC Horn who was the top 10 pick in the draft ahead of Patrick Surtain left and only when he left did the Rams do anything that's the part that concerns me yeah is I kind of don't know if the Rams win if that didn't happen I know both Horn and Mike Jackson were great for Carolina they were they were everywhere and causing a lot of problems yeah I don't know it's it's like I you know a month ago six weeks ago I would have picked the Rams to win the Super Bowl but the the cornerback lack of talent the special teams issues kind of how beat up they are I think it's like there's just a point they now seem like kind of one of the other teams in the league when when midway through the season I think they were the only team that everybody felt really good about yeah that's a good point Craig I mean the corner the cornerback situation the inability to clamp down on opposing receivers and like a catastrophically bad special teams unit are pretty pretty big vulnerabilities yeah it was an Ick that I mean one that it was two X the Panthers were banged up like Iki Ikwondo their left tackle is probably their best line it got hurt unlike the second drive and the Robert Hahn who's like maybe their best guard was in and out of the game and he was like not 100% and they still couldn't get consistent they couldn't make Bryce Schoen look small this is what the nine years did I'm gonna have football like the defense is when you're able to get pressure on them you can contain Bryce Schoen you kind of make them look small and they weren't able to consistently do that the Panthers are weirdly situated to beat the Rams in some ways because all the receivers are so big 10 Macmillan 10 aeromagnol and 6.5 and and Jalen cocker 6.3 and like get 6.4 and Tommy Trumbulls big and so on a way they're really well-sized to do it but I it's it's just a bunch of things it's the Rams punt unit isn't good it's like Harrison movie this honestly was better in this one but there's just all these flaws in the Rams special teams combined with the fact that I wish the defense of one could have taken advantage of Carolina more and also Carolina didn't they made a ton of mistakes like they came like like Traverita and Travis's brother took two different puns off his face and the Rams couldn't capitalize so it was a little concerning I also do wonder if if McVay actually wanted to save some pitches I kind of wonder if McVay wanted to win without showing him much of cards and and I think he pulled the three tight end personnel out begrudgingly and that was really how the Rams did end up moving the ball sometimes but um that was weird because we're gonna get Rams bears and we're gonna have Stafford once again cold weather and we're gonna see what happens when Stafford at 38 years old was his back injury lands on the frozen ass Chicago turf that game's gonna be incredible there's gonna be a lot of points in that game and honestly thinking you better be a bears fan because I assume you don't want to see the Rams in the playoffs after Darnold has thrown like oh yeah how many interceptions and sacks we Darnold must be up to 20 sacks in three games versus the Rams in 2025 yeah Craig set up the beginning I have Seattle fear in me I don't want to face the Rams the Rams have been like the Thorn and the Seahawks side and be pretty sweet though if you beat the Niners and then the Rams I mean sure yeah it would be great it would be an awesome NFC championship game if the Seahawks get to that spot but yeah speaking of awesome games yeah Patriots Chargers the best game of the weekend uh what hour are we out here who who who I'm who it decay who gave you if you had voted for this guy for MVP who made you feel dumb or Stafford almost losing a Carolina or Drake May not getting the Patriots to touch down until 53 minutes into the game I think 75% of the game I would have felt dumber about voting for May because he I mean he looked out of sorts for a lot of the game but I thought he played really well down like down the stretch got him what they needed to do or did what did what he needed to do I didn't think it was this best game but I at you know taking the full game into the count he played all right he played fine I think Stafford engineering that game winning tribe was pretty impressive though Stafford with the finger injury doing what he did and that throw was insane the no look thing there was like four lead changes in the game yeah I mean he had some no look stuff that was crazy yeah May was fine I mean he had two fumbles he lost one he had the pick which was tipped I don't think he was like especially impressive in this game but he did have a couple really big runs which has kind of been the story of his season he had the great touchdown to Harah Henry was like a beautiful perfect pass the way he finished also missed Austin Hooper who bullied you in the high school he didn't bully me missed him for a touchdown very bullied he bullied you about crashing the van he didn't have no idea we like to change the story to he bully he was busy being the NFL he was in the NFL when I was crashing the van so he stuffed you to locker the the Patriots look you know what let's be honest I've never heard enough of the freaking Patriots the last my entire life I'm gonna hear about a more I don't care it's a way like it's to kind of just like the regular season where I'm like the charges are terrible terrible the offense of lying was so bad they could do literally nothing I still don't know how I feel about doing when they should have probably won by more the only analysis I'll give him this game is that the charges the other than that play Herbert got rocked and gave it to the ball I actually think you could do the charges and tires season in one play and it was the last play the Chargers had in this game which was when it was fourth in the eleventh or something and Milton Williams for the Patriots the defense attack splits Bradley Boseman the center in Zion Johnson the right guard I'm getting backwards now and like they literally swap those guys the entire summer because the Chargers interior line was so bad that they were like we're gonna switch thine Johnson to center and we're gonna put Bradley Boseman at guard and they tried it and they sucked switched it back and they sucked flipped it back they sucked they're like you know what we'll keep everyone where it was and so the like yes all the tackles get hurt yes the Chargers had seven or eight literations it's left tackle they had the right tackle they had twenty twenty five offensive line comment twenty nine offensive line combination exactly so yes all that happened but what's the reason the Chargers and Herbert Herbert was the most hit quarterback this year and even though John Jim Harboh is like I will do anything protect her but Herbert's gotten so the shit kicked out of him is because it's not just the tackles got hurt it's that the Chargers did not pay money to fix the interior of their offensive line that was the weakness they thought they could coach it they failed that those guys stayed healthy all year and even with the tackle switches they're the worst part of the line that's the point is even the six string left the fifth string left tackle jimari as sellier is better at left tackle than the starting center and starting left starting left guards on johnson was the earlier and the for all that it's funny that the original problem the Chargers had all summer was the one that ended their season and they just need the tackles to come back but they need to swap probably all three of those into your guys so um the Chargers were pretty pathetic in this game it was a hard watch it was it's it was incredible they were the tea they were the panthers they were the team the thought the panthers would be like how did this team make the playoffs every pass on the Chargers felt like the last play of the game when it's like fourth and 30 and the quarterback has to just like run around for a while like that was every pass to like part of their something weird is the Chargers if they had won at week 17 versus Houston which the game was closer than you think the Chargers still is shot at the one state in aFC which I think is just incredible because they suck so it was a tough year hey Saints breeze we get through so many snacks have you got anything to help me save well we're always matching and lowering prices so hundreds of Saints breeze fresh fruit veg and everyday products are priced match to algae and every 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them come back but right now i'm having more fun without the chiefs letting the NFL field lifefallow for a year has working very well yeah unpredictability i'm having a blast it's a great call it's a great call tk what intrusive thoughts did you have i had a few um for stoff the pope who is a uh Chicago native yeah big bear's fan big uh what is the white socks fan or white socks white they have a mural of him at the white socks stadium watching the world series i just wanted i just wanted to picture the pope at 5 30 in the morning like drink in some of the sacrament there it like his hidden stash of the blood of Jesus Christ celebrating the bear's win like it was 5 30 in the morning bad a good time i don't know if he's in bad a kid right now but i want to know if he like you know did he cancel his entire day of meetings and stuff like did he get ahead of this it's a good point because we talked a lot about the Steelers having a priest bless their in zone and the rames mr kick we've even talked to talk about the pope being from chicana actual for like one happens once and then suddenly the bears are the most miraculous team in the history of the NFL with literally more come back wins than any team ever as soon as the pope is from Chicago yeah i there's no better example of divine intervention than it's kind of proof god is real like we probably get on that yeah somebody show rickidger vase what's happening with the bears right now uh switching gears a little i know that we've talked about this on our show before but i i need to bring it up again because it just blows my mind every time i see in and NFL commercial breaks are just chock full of these these new drugs that have come out on the market and they're like obviously trying to advertise and get people to talk to their doctors about them but like they'd legitimately and look i know there's laws that say they have to do this because whatever some of these drugs spend like a full minute talking about the horrific ways it's going to make you it give you the worst possible death imaginable there was one i don't remember what drug it was i probably should have written this down but it was literally one of the side effects was bleeding between the anus and genitals that could be fatal between fatal bleeding of your taint the taint bleeding taint bleed to death how do you bleed out of your taint you don't want to know what all right how do you how do you bleed out of the taint no this is the whole idea that it's in between there's nothing there it's just it's just skin how are you bleeding out great i would encourage you not you don't want to i would encourage you not to do any google i think that exact ad was playing and i was at my wife's house my wife's parents house i should say and during it like my mother and i was like what what are we listening to what is this dude they look legitimately the the arc of these of these commercials is like people having a great time whatever they're like you know sitting in bathtubs holding hands or whatever and then they spend a solid two-thirds of the advertisement which is costing millions of dollars just listing off horrific side effects like the worst side effects you could think up for a salt like the the solid two-thirds of the commercial it's just absurd i can't believe these work and but apparently they do we had someone email in saying these are like really effective commercials dude well i'll tell you why i had my first man i'm over 30 years old moment a couple weeks ago i was watching the pharmaceutical ad i'll say that i should talk to my it was for a joke pixan and it was telling me about to fix it and i was like holy shit i think two picks it might be able to help me should i talk to my doctor back to fix it wait what's two picks it my my esophagus thing it like apparently can help with that and it was just FDA approved or whatever i don't know they were talking about they like said the thing that i have and i was like what is the side effects oh my god do i need to talk to my doctor back to pixan that's the surest sign that you get know where am i please email us to get all the i think some excited like two drugs in a fake one or something just email side effects from these things you think i'm busy sky has got a good sky-rizzy tri-vierium i don't know sky yeah email is the drugs i want to know these drugs email ringer fantasy football gmail dot com i i had a 30 year old moment too though today i'm embarrassed because like now crack word of the age that the commercials are for us so it's kind of like the joke at the half time shows like man there these guys were old and then like stuped dog and doctor drinker like you think that's young now you're like oh my god they're in their 60s like i'm old my version of that today was i was just during a commercial break i think eagles niner so i'm kind of just like i'm checking something during the commercial break and i'm kind of like bobbin ahead i'm like oh okay like what is this i look up and it's the freaking turbo tax made like of anime song or something like they ripped off k pop demon hunters for a turbo tax ad and i was like i was so i feel like a part of me died dude there's a there's a taco bell song right now that was good i'm loving that was great that's that's all tender loving care make love for living tender loving care yeah that song's good how do you know there's no shame in that one oh anyway one more and please related to doctors what we need to like upgrade it feels like this was introduced into the NFL as a stopgap measure because at one point we had to figure out the concussion situation and how players can be checked for concussions so the NFL's sort of ad hoc we're just gonna throw this thing on the sideline and this will help us with our process of going through concussion checks the blue tent can we get an overhaul on this like this is a 25 billion dollar industry and they have like those little tents you take to the beach and it blu over during the equals bears game it's just like blew away they're like 90 dollar massage table was like some dad trying to get out of the trunk of his minivan you got to put the stakes in the ground damn it Marie you're folded it wrong what's with all i can't get these poles to sit right you get the kids is not bad dream me i'm trying to get a 10 out of the trunk you know what i think they should do well i started thinking about the mat staffer air stream that he had and the in the preseason where he's like doing the mysterious like back treatments but more realistically you know when you go to you go to concerts these days and they have like the trailers that turn in that are just bathrooms and they're like i mean it's like this is going to the ritz Carlton compared to going to the port of potty these things are nice they're like air condition they they smell good there's running water in those things it's freaking crazy why can't the NFL have like something like that instead of this blue tent that they only have one of them too like there's lines into the blue tents put just get the mri machine out on the field why do you have a little plastic blue tent why don't you have something permanent why do they have to put the blue tent up every time what goes in it doesn't even matter in the playoffs they don't acknowledge the blue tent in the playoffs i feel like they kind of just push it to the side again i can't hard this enough to vaunte atoms was i think knocked out yeah and 10 minutes later in the game they don't they don't care about the blue tent in the playoffs there are certainly fewer players in the blue tent there's no question about that they're like Josh out running the tent they checked him for concussion he didn't have one i'm like i would have bet my house that Josh Alan didn't have a concussion and the wild card wrap also like when the blue tent blew over you kind of realize how small they are like those are not big tents Roger Sherman made this point on social media that was like he kind of always pictured you know it in uh Harry Potter how like when you go into like the magic tents it like turns into this giant game it's like cavernous tent with like six rooms and it just looks like a little teeny tent dude i i was thinking about that what game was it this weekend where there was like a line for the tent what game was that where there was a there they were stamping your wrist on those Kyle Hamilton collided a low e-gillman and it's called amon's the best player in defense and he's waiting for the others raven to get out of the tent and i'm like this is the problem there's a lie correct do the uh the billhater the hottest club in town for the tent oh Stefan New York's hottest club is the blue tent it's got everything a white folding table weird coaches Brian dayball Brian day walls in there so good uh my only my intrusive thought today was did you guys see during sonnet football the Patriots charges thing there's all this stuff about Justin Herbert's wristband which Chris Collins worth nail oh yeah this was a good flopping and he's running that bugs me too and it's velcro so he runs and it's just flopping everywhere you gotta do this live on like DK my intrusive thought was why you're why can't we just fix that just yeah it's paid 50 million dollars a year can't you just get like a rubber band to go over it dude he said they were like a rubber band velcro he likes to look at both sides what do you know no but he they were like can't you fix it he's like I try to reset it but we can't it can't be done and i was like i'm I'm sorry we have we have the technology to do something about they i've seen that charge of facility they have a brick oven pizza oven with the charges logo on it and they don't have a fucking wristband that just in her book can use it's a good point that's weird it is very weird that's a bad look that's that's all just like work on that there's some homework not arrow dynamic it always bugs me when they're running around and these fucking flopping all over the place like when you're driving into your like tarp gets loose and it's just flapping at like stressful stressful levels come on figure that out tie that down strap it down look I'm nothing if i'm not open minded okay i know where this is i would like to give credit where credit is dude and i thought tom Brady was a lot better today i think this was the best game Brady's ever done ever called i think he should get a drug test they're sending they're sending a drug test to his locker right now because he's not on drugs he can't go on air i mean all the all the golden globes were tonight and there were stars up there joking that you know they forgot to take their beta blocker before giving their acceptance speech Brady my the beta blocker was working nicely for Brady he was so much calmer i thought his voice was several octaves lower yes he wasn't yelling he wasn't doing the like kb second third time king he's just talking like a normal person sent him our show cuz Craig like seven days ago made fun of Brady for always like yelling into a microphone like he's a speaker with his parents or something that was on bill's pod and i think someone sent that to tom Brady because now he just doesn't do that anymore so you know 100 times better you don't think he had seen a single criticism until last week i don't he made it you went on bill's show and said he yells he's been yelling for two years and then seven days later he just stopped doing it i think he saw you well that'd be great and you know what it paid off i thought he was i thought he was way better pretty good job thanks for taking feedback i tom Brady today was what we thought tom Brady being announced would be the whole time which was honestly i think him talking about through footballs and the win was some of the best i've ever heard like his old thing about you can't the point of the ball going up too high it's gonna sail and you have to keep it lower was dead on every time he talked about the Eagles needing tempo was right he nailed the final play of the game was he was dead right about what solos gonna do a defense like Brady was had the perspective of something that nobody else in the world could really deliver like that's what we thought he was he was amazing i thought this was by far the best game he's ever nails i think he did a good job the part where he's talking about high fives you said the throwing in the wind and he was like sometimes you throw in the bottom of your hand around the ball makes like a V but if it's windy it should become out like a sea and i was like wow and then i could totally picture how he throws the football yeah and it was always with the sea yeah for whatever reason and yeah that was pretty good dude there's a video on youtube of tom Brady on his own channel just like how to throw football and i just watched it because you should i don't know i figured i should probably know it through a football from tom Brady you feel like you know now no it fixed my golf swing a shit you not the football advice fixed your golf swing watching tom Brady's video on how to he says in the middle of it it's like your golf swing and i was like oh my god it is like my golf swing i realized what i was doing wrong i went out the next day and it's 30 yards to my drive just watching tom before after you and i played like an infomercial before the way i hit you i was because you were piping your drives with me it's tom Brady helped me tom Brady added 25 yards to my drive so serious in a relationship we have with him now you saw the clip of him he saw the clip of us dude i literally was like because you're like you know thrown a football and i was like oh my god i just put the hands down and then you swing you're like oh it's the same thing i can just picture hyphids so clearly swinging a driver like it's just it's just clear in my mind it is exactly what you think it is just champ my golf shoes on no time yeah he's got like his he like his back heel on one of his shoes is like folded into the shoe less never bothered to fix it it may look unorthodox he pipes it so he's got to be a tom Brady thank you it's whistling off the trees any uh any referee moments bother you guys today no nobody seemed to be as upset as i was about this but two different games today with hands to the face against the quarterback just not called there was one in the very obvious charges game like herber got smacked in the face right it's a crucial third down what a bit of first down it i'm it wasn't even the replay like the live play itself i noticed it herberto immediately is like looking up at the ref pointing at his helmet like hey it's got obviously in the face nothing nothing and then the broadcasts like yeah then miss call they missed that sometimes a wonderful replace this just like taking a piss just i just don't understand we need people who don't piss we need scott Hansen doing replace scott Hansen should be doing the freaking reds i i just there's one game on i understand what's the early window on the 30 secret is there's eight games on the business there's one game it's a playoffs i what are you doing and i think it happened i think it was Josh Allen happened to i just like i'm like i don't know what by the letter of the law that's apparently so i tell you i want to go to the Lucille blue uh i don't understand the stat and i won't respond to the award a k the best stat today and i want to just sequin barkley one play before he got hurt for the Eagles they were like sick one barkley now the Eagles all-time leading rusher in the playoffs what did he play four game five game five five playoff gives the Eagles damn he's been there two seasons all-time leader for rushing for the Eagle Wild i flew by isn't it didn't he only play four they probably had a buy last year right no they actually did play the what the lines were the number one seed lecture last year oh yeah one done five games all-time who's who's did you say who was second prime west prime west prime west well that's what's amazing is the Eagles made the industry championship game four years in a row with Andy Reid like i can't believe whatever i i didn't i didn't think to say one moons was could still hurt me but that did i also want to just note that cam little the jaguar's kicker his career long like they put that when you're in field go range to try to get a field goal they'll put the career long up and his is at the 50 hmm damn he's the youngest kicker in the league so it will be like that forever and i'll never get used to it just get to the 50 what's funny about him is he doesn't look imposing physically he doesn't have these like giant legs or his looks he's like thin guy i don't know you wouldn't expect that he's the one who has the 67-yard leg in him he's like Yamamoto it's like all it's all angles you know what i mean did expect him to have such a big weight it's all about yeah it's always the skinny guys any other stats the kind of other than everything from india to organ you want to you i have a stat from that game that kind of there were a lot of stats from that game that that might be the best that was a disappointing game my brother went to organ so i was reading for organ tough couple of years for organ in a semi-final um this is so that game against organ was the indian quarterback for nanomendoza that was his fifth game this year with more touchdowns than incompletions no other quarter five times he's done that this year no other quarterback in college football has done that more than twice this century wow dude the mea deficiency the i it's the meme is just i'm gonna keep it as my comparison for mendoza which is that in a Fernando Mendoza is the Andrew Luck of Kirk cousins yeah everything just looks so easy it's almost like jade bay this year where i'm like i don't even know what to do with this i mean i mean indian it they'd be organ 5622 it's like a super bowl of chiefs eagle score where it's like it was 56 to like 10 um i feel like entering the game for nanomendoza indiana i'm too more juniory organ it was like if they both come out for the draft like who one of them could go number one of the raiders decay can we just call it this is over your draft expert here the rear this is over right like i would think yeah those is the number one which i mean don't they might come back right but also but even if it comes Brady is going to love mendoza everything about him he's six five he has the frame the intangibles he throws with a c i mean look at him throws the ball with a c yeah no i i can't imagine that they'll talk to themselves out of what he's done i mean like it just so perfect too for the raiders in particular who need a type of player who can like elevate this franchise that's just been so bad for so long um you know what indiana's doing is unprecedented and crazy and awesome um but yeah i mean he just continues to be more it's like every game he plays he's more and more impressive it just feels like he cemented himself as the number one pick but you know we have will you have a lot of time between now and the draft to start picking him apart that's right and and remember we won't actually see him do anything for the next three months he's going to play catch but our opinions are going to change irastically hey that's the great we always deakick we always joke every year that we'd be better at drafting we just did it right when the season ends and this is like i'm locking there's so many things i want to like skill like a time capsule right now and then just open up again that we get in the draft and just make the decisions that way this is number one of them all it's like don't take more juniors play the biggest game of his life say what you want it was the worst game of his life and he threw a pick six on the first throw yeah yeah three turners in the first half was the biggest game of his life he's from the ball in a way that i've never seen done before he he he hit the running back hit the running back as he was trying to throw never see that before yeah i there was just so many mistakes and then you look at mendoza and you're like the two biggest games of his life he had more touchdowns and completions in both games yeah and so i there's nothing to talk about the we as we go to the offseason everything we talk more about indiana with Kurt's dignity is done there but the the Kurt's dignity did not smile until they had 55 points like that guy it's a site we we can unpack all that but here's the most important part from this game maybe the most important part of this entire episode my staff that i would like to give you guys the is i couldn't believe this this is from Greg Harvey had this that Greg gee reg FB like college football FBS or equivalent teams in college football that have scored 55 points and one by 30 or more points seven different times in a season so you one by 30 and you scored 50 seven times in a season indiana this year wow and then Princeton in 1887 and Yale in 1886 1800 1880 record it was football even around that was right right down so i'm glad you asked it's harder than you think to find the roster for the 1886 Yale Bulldogs right what i did hell yeah some notebook buried underground that somebody dug up what was what was that nitcage national treasure national treasure he's like stealing it i it also tested my i wasn't totally sure when football had been invented i ate this is like the cutting edge of football being invented this like pretty much rug me back then so let me tell you guys about someone i discovered on this Yale 1886 do not look at anything i'm not looking up right now i'll kill you amos alonzo stag okay amos stag amos alonzo stag was on the 1886 Yale Bulldogs he played and course they all do so he became he became like a coach like a true American sports pioneer he was like the football coach at Yale the baseball coach the basketball like everything but he was doing all this stuff like a 60 year coaching career he was the coach he well he died it well i'm saying later not not on that team but he died at like 93 in the 1950s so he lived quite the life okay i want to there is you want to talk about a legacy i would like to read you a list of things on Wikipedia that alonzo amos alonzo stags Wikipedia says that he invented or helped invent the jump shot i'm going to read you this list first on the list the center snapping the ball invented innovator innovator i love it uh writing down plays in a book that makes sense it was easy back then man it was easy you're an early adopter coming up with a new idea now as borderline impossible they've thought of everything him being like what if we wrote down the things that we're going to do dude in 1899 this guy invented the tackling dummy he invented putting guys in motion before the snap now we're talking wow he and Walter camp together invented the forward pass right again low hanging fruit uh they invented hit pads putting pads around the goalposts and my personal favorite is he invented the linebacker they were all just standing on the line before that he's like we need someone behind now they all lined up just guys a visionary 11 against 11 in a line so so straight line god i love it like revolutionary war tactics it's like trench warfare it's like a gun but i didn't so i'm reading this guys Wikipedia i'm having a blast and then i stop in my tracks and i read the following sentence he played in the first public game of basketball public what and then it says stag developed basketball as a five player sport holy shit he invented football ends basketball yes so in the eight guy i never what if he had like a different job wait what is the guy's name invented and look each basket whose name is naysmith naysmith right who was a teacher at the ymca school in springfield masterchussets in the 1890s do you know who else was a teacher at the springfield school in springfield masterchussets ymca in the 1890s my boy amos alanzo stag who was invited to the first game of basketball by his fellow teacher James naysmith because he was the football coach and it was nine on nine and amos's feedback to james naysmith was we got to take it down a notch and amos and i can social network he's like lose lose the four just five just just five this guy made basketball five on five this guy's like the fucking isic newton of sports yeah vented calc as he was bored he's like the fucking michael angelo of sports wait who no da Vinci who's the guy who invented like the helicopter in the 15th oh da Vinci came up yeah the helicopter in the 15th he like invented a bridge i said he was he was a halkist time to win a bet yeah the then he was like buried is that he was the baseball coach he invented the batting cage man what would this country look like if this guy just decided to get into something else i was gonna say i'd rather he focused on sports to be honest that's really important yeah wow also kind of like a focused on safety you know he was thinking long term yeah yeah the long game yeah so that was my wormhole i could i just read his name a lot so so lots of stag and i'm reading about this guy played at end at yel and they're like yeah he made basketball fly person's board all right amos stag wait how long did he live the 93 they all did back then man why am i i'm looking at his Wikipedia was he bored in 1862 this is him right it says he was 102 when he died they don't actually know what he was bored well i don't think they wrote down birthdays until actually very recently i'm just looking at the guy who invented writing down birthdays oh then oh yeah you're ready died 1965 that's crazy 172 this guy lived oh you know wow we died on March 17th that's crazy what this guy was probably eating steak potatoes and heavy milk every day whiskey cigarettes out of lead silverware yes out of lead cups everything was made of lead yeah and he lived to 102 built if god i think we should bring back end as a position right should put it in people it's like when people are linebackers it's like will Anderson's a lineback it's like he's an end common end yeah get rid of edge just say end end end he's an end he'll do that well they have that they have defensive end we just know i just want to end yeah lose the defensive defense hey just lose the do you guys have anything else or should we just then maybe we should just end i want to hear Craig talk about the golden gloves it's kind of a boring golden gloves the golden gloves are a weird award show but you just say Amy puller of the ringer one the pocket that was cool i mean look it was it's it's the it was the first year or whatever that there was a best podcast category at any award show really golden gloves decided to launch that and Amy puller of the ringer one hell yeah and that was cool ringers never lost golden globe winning company amazing we never lost all right well we're next so there you go watch out Amy okay i i i i don't think Amy knows who we are no shot no zero change thank you dk thank you Craig she knows who aimless Alonso Staggies though like i said thank you dk thank you Craig thank you cam thank you Carlos thank you Kai thank you Austin thank you everyone for making this happen thank you netflix for letting us do that one episode and then kicking us off after we played for it a shard on the show so that one was cool uh but hopefully all the rest of our shows will be on Netflix the rest of 2026 thank you everyone who watched us here on Netflix we appreciate it and thank you everyone who didn't but put hit play and walked away and just let it play that yeah just do that just do that you know you can mute it go to sleep he's got the little bird thing that like hits the button on the keyboard oh yeah let's get that going set that up we need like a whole click farm for our show that we need to build that's good idea yeah and of course thank you lord lord thank you low Wayne uh speaking of that tweet hi fed study sent about kill lives i he has 28 million followers on twitter the low Wayne will Wayne does i can't even like imagine that think about them think about his reply i have 28,000 so 28 million million that's funny about that crags if i told you you were one thousand times less famous in the way and you'd be like that's pretty good yeah not bad i can't take that i haven't said it don't you aren't you a big fan of low Wayne yeah like low yeah i'm a white kid from the suburbs 30 years old of course i like low Wayne do you like low Wayne yeah why do you think Baker may feel denial of the exact same age you know also just love the line like real g smooth and silenced like lasagna it's because you know that is a good line do you guys hear the the joke on that commercial with uh now fuck i remember i miss remembering his name the uh Bradley Cooper where he's like Baker mayfield sounds like a farm to table something or other is actually pretty fun to play yeah yeah we don't talk enough that Baker mayfield's name is Baker Baker mayfield sounds like a farm to table pop up restaurant you're listening to low Wayne i'm listening to denner lovin gare which i'm now learning is from a man named jimmy rogers jimmy rogers wrote the taco bell song born in 1897 he played in the first game of basketball yeah that's right and he invented taco bell genius genius makes a live word livin come on do you get one of the last time you guys went to Taco Bell are you guys still doing Taco Bellery tool for that now i haven't been in Taco Bell in probably since college i actually didn't go to Taco Bell until i was like 27 really there wasn't one around me and then like in man i used to pick up cigarettes at 60 year old yeah Taco Bell was like one of my biggest vices in my life uh i see i see Taco Bell by drive by Taco Bell i just kind of like look at it wistfully like man i missed that those who the days you can you can still have it on your way home from work do you nobody has to now pull into the drive i know man to get down to chalupa your home in ten minutes i know but but then you know there's all kinds of questions that come related to that like what's that smell why you in the bathroom for an hour um things of that nature you know why are there all these empty baja blasts in the trunk of your way why is this what's the what's the spicy sauce called the what why we have six packets of hot sars in it's called fire fire sauce why is there why are there cinnamon crumbs all over your seat cinnamon twists those are good should we get Taco Bell I don't know i just know them from the commercials just miss it i haven't had it in a while i i'm not sure how my body would react the way that Chris Ryan talks about cigarettes is how i feel about Taco Bell they should make nicotine patches for fast food we should cut that from the show and like make that business and like stop to eat this pot it's pretty good you should it should put the nicotine patch right in your tongue and it tastes like a Dorino loco's talk wait we actually got like a Taco Bell in it's a thing but it's for bad food just tastes like it's for junk food tastes like their fire sauce yeah see it's like it's low release it's just called junk that's the name of the company junk yeah it's zins for fucking fast food we're gonna joke about this but someone listening is gonna do this and they're gonna be worth like take it out but i guess do you want the flavor of Taco Bell in your mouth all day yes very much so all day absolutely an hour and a it's like the two to it's like we can't get night out right this but 45 minutes an hour and 10 no problem yeah yeah and like you know i guess you don't have to do it all day you could have you could have one or two junks for a couple hours just when you start feeling a little jittery yeah you're you could eat a salad with a junk in tastes like Taco Bell why can't we do this if they can make potato chips tastes like roast chicken or whatever weird ass flavors they have in lays in europe have you seen that video of that woman i don't even know if this was like fake is this is like for mad TV or snl or something but it was like some woman and she's like oh yeah like i figured out how to eat better and she sniffs a chocolate bar and then takes a bite of broccoli tricking your body yeah which is funny because like chocolate doesn't really smell like i've thought i've like the worst thing you could pick well oh man what was your go-to Taco Bell thing yeah i just like chalupa chalupa's so good whatever that like weird tortillas it's like lightly fried or the chalupa tortillas so good i love to like multi layered stuff man so good Taco Bell like get in touch please ring or fantasy football gmail dot com junk food zins or that's the next so much gonna make that zin it i mean do you know what zin is sold every year can we just verbally copyright that that's ours i declare yeah yeah we that's all right we should come up god we're gonna not be rich from that that's too bad that's that's gonna happen all right someone wants to make that with us email us and yeah come on pinky promise to cut it actually that's the deal if you're hearing this and you're gonna go build that business you have to pinky promise to give us like a percent don't order sadness like oh exactly we're not being one percent each big deal you sell a percentage fifty billion dollars what's the big deal 97 percent years we want to percent that's it junk okay that's legally binding too goodbye everyone must be 21 plus in present and select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus in present in DC Kentucky or Wyoming gambling problem call 1800 gambler or visit rg-help.com call 1 888 7897777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland hope is here visit gambling help line 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